Why Cynthia Is The BEST Champion!

[@BirdKeeperToby]

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[@moonjellyfish23]

you fool, younster joey is obvoisouly the best champon!

[@VoidDWG]

I had a crush on Cynthia for the longest time as a kid.

[@enoderosso]

Got her in Sygna suit already ^^

[@sceptilex701]

Good video bird keeper Toby keep up the good work

[@Undrave]

I love that Poémon Masters puts the spotlight on the human characters, they tend to be overshadowed by all the Pokémon.

[@cis22]

In Pokemon Masters, Cynthia actually mentions that she raised her Kommo-o from an egg and that it has a passionate rivalry against her Garchomp and they tend to spar with each other. It's a cute backstory.

[@spacetofu5306]

It really is, her Kommo-o and Garchomp having a rivalry each other does makes a lot of sense.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@spacetofu5306 "We all know Cynthia is the best." No, apparently, a lot of Fans think otherwise and now it shows that even the Creators of the Anime dont know this. I feel deeply ashamed that the Journeys-Anime now really goes with this always-has-been-nonsensical statement that Leon is Unbeaten and the Truly Strongest Champion. Even though countless Analysis-Videos say otherwise. He has nice Type-Coverage, but not the Best. Also... his posing is cringey, by the way... Cynthia is the Best in all Regards but the Anime actively spreads false facts about this topic. Wow. Just Wow.

[@joelss22]

@@loturzelrestaurant I can definitely agree to this and while I can maybe see him taking down Diantha (who I would imagine would struggle due to her over reliance on Mega Gardevoir and her presumable lack of experience with dynamaxing) and Steven (Dude uses a lot of Steel types) I just can't for the life of me see him beating Cynthia simply for the fact in the anime we've seen her Garchomp shrug off several ice type attacks, its (Used to be) one weakness. Meanwhile in the Lance vs Leon fight Leon's Charizard look like it struggled in the battle.

[@crimsongogeta6810]

Can we take the time to acknowledge that her Kommo-o can keep pace with mother-fucking Garchomp!?

[@qwert28077]

@@joelss22 defeating steven = groudon_eruption_spam.

[@DanielPereira-ey9nt]

What i love most about Cynthia is how she still fells human, outside battle shes just a mythology nerd that, loves ice-cream, gets worked up about going to the beach and buys too many swimsuits, and refuses to tell anyone where she lives because she's super embarrassed of how much of a mess it is

[@Mordecrox]

"refuses to tell anyone where she lives" So that's why she buries you alive the second you step in her house

[@WGoNerd]

As I said on my own twitter recently while struggling to beat Cynthia: Dragon Rush has 75 accuracy unless it is used by Cynthia then it can never miss.

[@SpiritedFalcon]

No

[@tdc3477]

@@SpiritedFalcon Yes

[@SpiritedFalcon]

@@tdc3477 No

[@tdc3477]

@@SpiritedFalcon yes

[@SpiritedFalcon]

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[@KaiCyreus]

I like that they gave Cynthia Kommo-o, seems they want to keep it consistent that she has a type advantage over Cyrus no matter which of the Creation Trio he has, while also still having a Pseudo-Legendary.

[@BirdKeeperToby]

ahh nice I hadn't thought about that!

[@LrnecBuma]

Both Cynthias are also AOE Sweepers. She is so strong she doesn't just take out one target she sweeps all 3 at the same time. And powers up the longer you fight her kommo-o it gets a omni boost every time you synch.

[@puddlel1ama327]

I like the idea that she's constantly seeking better Pokémon. Not her Kommo-o outfit. Just looks like bad cosplay to me.

[@KaiCyreus]

@@puddlel1ama327 yeah not a fan of that design at all

[@DragonDArrior]

I personally don't think that Kommo-o suits for Cynthia well. We've never seen her with Kommo-o before and the things, which she said to Kommo-o suits more for Togekiss or Spiritomb

[@Mr.Voiddweller]

She's actually the best and toughest one she made my entire team use struggle

[@acetrainer_zack2455]

I needed a Wake-Up, cause she was so easy

[@alephnull423]

You're far more tactical now than back then aren't you? Have you gone back to challenge her recently?

[@Mr.Voiddweller]

@@alephnull423 yeah last time i battled her was when i had pearl on ds which was around the time it came out so yeah i'm smarter than i was in 2008 or so I'll get an emulator going

[@acetrainer_zack2455]

void dweller I hope she gets buffed in the remakes

[@Mr.Voiddweller]

@@acetrainer_zack2455 imagine if they just make another overpowered type just to conveniently make her starting pokemon have no weakness but yeah i hope i see mega garchomp i've been waiting since gen 6 to see that

[@gillianadkins8148]

As a young girl who loved video games, I often found myself struggling to find good female role models in video games. I was 9 when Diamond released and I instantly grew attached to Cynthia as both a character, as well as a badass champion with a tough battle. Gen 4 remains my favorite, and I look forward to seeing Cynthia with every play-through of Sinnoh.

[@HZTenh17g]

Sinnoh remakes this November

[@Eric-py8yy]

Cyntia for me was easy

[@Eric-py8yy]

@Erwin yeah she was quite charismatic but the people exagerating about her strength is quite annoying

[@Eric-py8yy]

@@simplyzek i think Leon with Inteleon is most difficult

[@SpiritedFalcon]

She wasn't hard for me but she is still my second fave champ

[@kacpikachu5951]

Cythia was my first champion, and that's probably why I never struggled with any other pokemon game. She forced me to become the best possible trainer that I could when I was just introduced to the pokemon world. And that's why she's my favorite. I will admit, Leon put up a fight against me. But to this day, Cynthia is the only champion who has beaten me.

[@judeskater93]

Kacpikachu I haven’t lost to any of the champions, but Cynthia ALMOST beat me in my first match against her, only reason I held out and barely was cause I had enough items and my Pokémon at the time were close to hers level wise. Same thing on my end though, never really had the same challenge from other champions as Cynthia gave me, even with Steven in omega ruby with a type advantage on his side. Cynthia is definitely lightning that game freak captured in a bottle, best team set up of the time, great balance between them and adjusted proper for the next fight, even with a type advantage and a legendary to back me up, she still had me pushed back.

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@SpiritedFalcon]

I never lost to her but she was tough, Lucian actually beat me and Cynthia didnt somehow.

[@Eric-py8yy]

@@SpiritedFalcon i must admit, i didnt think she was thougth but not that impossible thing that everyone says

[@mayalonde1138]

same. I struggled so hard with her and it took me weeks so the trauma(😂) polished me into a very effective trainer that when I fought with gen 1's elite 4 and champ(my 2nd game) I was disappointed in Blue. and it went downhill from there.

[@trainerfiona4590]

Cynthia is a Queen we all need but don’t deserve

[@BirdKeeperToby]

Litirally

[@dragonmaster3030]

@@BirdKeeperToby you forgot to mention that Cynthia's garchomp has perfect IVs as well

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

@@dragonmaster3030 ALL her Pokémon have perfect IVs

[@dragonmaster3030]

@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 are you sure, I only heard that it was only garchomp

[@scrubyt2668]

She still instills genuine fear in me everytime I hear that piano. Everytime that song starts playing, I start sweating and I get goosebumps even 13 years later, no other champion even comes close to having that kind of aura. That Garchomp really makes her the strongest trainer in any Pokemon game ever

[@Rahnonymous]

In some aspects, yes. In speedrunning, this is not the case. That top spot is May from the original trio of Gen 3 games.

[@paulgalley131]

I'm the same as soon as the battle theme starts!

[@drillord9697]

Cynthia shows up in the Battle Tree in Alola. That's probably where she got Kommo-o.

[@DarthMolgy]

Apparently she got it as an egg on Pasio

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@yuvrajsingh743]

Game freak better make her even more stronger in dp remake

[@UltraBall23]

New Pokémon, new moves, updated movesets, Fairy Typing. She can’t be stronger

[@Unknownfrencghost]

Alas it will probably be the opposite

[@TheDeathmail]

Maybe she'd be stronger in rematch battles...

[@Unknownfrencghost]

@@TheDeathmail depends if there is a rematch

[@UltraBall23]

TheDeathmail a higher level doesn’t mean stronger. We all know how to counter her Pokémon now while we didn’t before. She can’t be hard unless you force yourself to to use un-optimal Pokémon

[@WeissM89]

Although the battle music is epic, the piano song playing when you approach her is even more awesome. It's one of my favourite songs of the series.

[@ld3534]

I'll never forget in white 2 when I walked into that cottage and that piano started playing. Brought back bad memories lol

[@blastoiseddr]

100%, there's a 10 hour loop of it on KZbin, it's great background music

[@InvaderZim07]

Eh, I think Steven is pretty up there. Main issue is that he doesn’t even really want to be a champion. He has other hobbies he loves more than Pokemon, which is why Cynthia pulls ahead on passion alone.

[@curlyfriesmack2710]

He is defo my favourite, my first Pokemon game was the 3rd Gen with Ruby, I remember the final Champion Battle and I saw him send out Metagross and fell in love with it, it was my favourite Pokemon until the remakes came out and he Mega Evolved it... I loved it.. first Pokemon I shiny hunted in the remakes because I loved the shiny form, I just love Metagross haha

[@samridhbanerjee3254]

steven is second even of he wanted to be champ

[@albertthepeacock8020]

Hot take:Cynthia isn't that memorable a champion as her delusional fanboys think she is. Other than her Garchomp what makes Cynthia stand out from the rest? She doesn't challenge your ideals,has no relatability,barely involved in the story until the climax. I don't see where the Cynthia hype comes from plus its 2020 she shouldn't be a problem for experienced players ffs she's a A.I they don't think like we do.

[@samridhbanerjee3254]

@@albertthepeacock8020 DID YOU JUST INSULT CYNTHIA, TAKE THAT BACK THIS INSTANT YOU-

[@ianfairbanks1318]

@@albertthepeacock8020 Cynthia is everything we strive to be in the REAL pokemon games. and that's her appeal. she IS you. You are simply the next version of her.

[@thelegacy1202]

I believe it’s possible that Cynthia could’ve gotten her hands on Kommo-o when she went to the battle tree in sun & moon. If I remember correctly the battle tree was located in the same island where you can find Jangmo-o

[@DarthMolgy]

She literally says in the new event that she raised it from an egg.

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@luisvelez1952]

If Cynthia’s Kommo-o has the overcoat hidden ability then she must have Gigalith with sandstream ability for sandstorm damage

[@pfefferkuchenmann]

The most intense and memorable match I've ever had in a Pokemon game was against Cynthia. It was like something out the anime as we took down each other's teams one by one until she was down to her Milotic and I was down to my Stuntank and the only reason I was able to land the final blow on her Milotic was because my Stuntank had the Quick Claw. No battle I've had on a Pokemon game has come that close since.

[@samhaddock-gross2535]

Unfortunately the quick claw was how I defeated the garchomp with my abamasnow and blizzard. I never truly appreciated her until much later after that. She did show me how much of a wolf in red riding clothing she was, even in that first battle, but nowadays a true respect blumed for that fight.

[@damyenhockman5440]

My scariest battle was a doubles against some random NPCs in Sword. What made it scary was their Kirlia's Trace copying Shedinja's Wonder Guard. I had one pokémon at the end of that battle, and they didn't even have a full team.

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@TOXICRAVEN123]

the last time i went pokemon to pokemon with an npc was the gen 7 champion surprisingly

[@dge.]

This is beautiful

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi]

The ultimate dream for me is for the Diamond and Pearl remakes to be prequels where we get to play as a young Cynthia. I think it would be an amazing opportunity to do some lore building and expand upon the history of one of Pokemon's most popular characters. Like Cynthia is cool because she's you, she went on the same journey as a kid and became a champion just like you. It would be so awesome if a prequel got to tell this story. It would be like the opposite of Red where you play as him in the original game and then battle him in a later game. Here you would battle Cynthia in the original and then play as her in the prequel to experience how she became this good! Seriously, you don't know how much money I would give to make that happen! And making it focus around an already popular character would probably make the games sell even better than if they were remakes set in the present. Come on Nintendo, you know you want to do it! My wallet is ready, just make my dreams come true!!!

[@christopherballero866]

Keep in mind that all of Cynthia's Pokemon were in either the OU and UU tiers at the time

[@milesandrews6711]

Garchomp was banned to ubers

[@luisvelez1952]

Cynthia should change some Pokémon if the tiers was lowered like roserade now is in R.U.

[@mr.lantern1111]

In remakes she swaps roserade for porygon-z

[@DragoelX99]

Honestly, Cynthia being a secret boss in BW cemented her as one of my favourite characters because she is built up so much like Red. I really want to see Game Freak do something interesting with her in upcoming main series games. Great video as always!

[@pickcollins9910]

Gamers: Dark Souls is the hardest game in history Cynthia: Hold my Garchomp.

[@milesandrews6711]

I don't remember having a weavile to one shot any dark souls bosses

[@SpiritedFalcon]

Lmao even my torterra can beat that chomp, outta here noob

[@milesandrews6711]

@みやぞのさくら weavile and sneasel literally both learn ice moves by level up and tm, and they will always be faster unless you somehow got the worst possible weavile/sneasel and 0 speed IVs and a minus speed Nature And even then ice shard exists Not to mention that ice tms exist and can all put away with garchomp given that Alot of Pokémon learn them

[@SpiritedFalcon]

@みやぞのさくら I was playing DP. My team was level 59-60 (except for Weavile which was early 50s). My Weavile did help out a bit but torterra did most of the work. I'll admit, I was a little lucky in my first battle with her, but in every other battle against her (in Platinum, BW, B2W2), I didn't have much trouble.

[@ianfairbanks1318]

Cynthia hands down, the hardest champ of all time. the music gets you psyched. the pokemon she uses, incredible. the menacing stare? intimidating. she's serious. The fact that when you get her down to her last pokemon, she says "i can't remember the last time i was put into a corner like this!", it strokes your ego, but tells you she doesn't lose often. why can't have trainers like this anymore?!?!?

[@samuelstannard730]

Sure, she's good. But is she pants at directions?

[@blueblade6174]

I don't get it

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@ikanasin3983]

If she's pants at direction she wouldn't come to Spear Pillar

[@BunsGlazing768]

Does she use S U P E R E F F E C T I V E M O V E S?

[@TheDeathmail]

Red is the best... he's the best of the best... of the best... **See's her in new outfit** Nevermind... Cynthia is the best... my second head is telling me so...

[@runningoncylinders3829]

Zweilous and Doduo sure noticed.

[@sacredwatermage3086]

Umm..

[@Athrun000]

Technically Red is not a Champion; unless you want to say that all the player characters are champions

[@runningoncylinders3829]

@@Athrun000 Red defeating Blue is canon in every later entry, and lead directly into Lance running the Indigo League. For the most part it can be debated whether or not beating the game is canon because it hardly ever gets followed up on. Sun/Moon is the last one I've seen to feel like it counted.

[@jonathandarvill8757]

Milotic understands that it needs help, Milotic knows that they need to look to a friend for help, or a potion, we should be like Milotic

[@the_ark_king]

In Pokémon Masters Cynthia apparently hatched kommo-o from an egg

[@nathangstar]

I used Weaviile with Ice Punch to defeat Garchomp, it's the only good counter that's quicker than it at roughly the same level

[@unmployedvillager7341]

Ice shard from Mamoswine Ohkos garchomp around same level but unavailable in Diamond and pearl.

[@mr.lantern1111]

Not anymore! In the remake, Garchomp is fully EV trained in speed and holds a Yache berry, so even if you get a hit in you're still doomed.

[@gg-eh9ep]

I remember when I would have dreams of the music of sinnoh which made me decide to reply platinum as an adult, played it full 100% but man when it came to do the elite four. For the first time in a pokemon game I had to train and grind out trainers with the vs seeker, keep in mind I battled EVERY trainer that came way and knocked out any wild encounters. My team was pretty consistent so switching out pokemon for others didn't really happen because i wanted any XP to not go to waste. I love the team I made and the adventure I had when I needed it most in life. Empoleon, Luxray, Gastrodon, Gengar, Altaria, Magmortar

[@InvaderZim07]

Honestly this new update really made me appreciate Cyrus a lot me. It gives me hope that they’ll expand on his character even more for a Sinnoh Remake!

[@danielsimmich1858]

I just hope that when Gen 4 gets a remake they find a way to get rid of Spiritomb’s fairy weakness just for that battle

[@christianormeno5116]

Lmao haha i love this comment

[@kotzer71]

i mean spirtomb is set up fodder anyways lol

[@kingraplhmativo5178]

Imagine it's new ability like pure heart or pure soul which immune to fairy type moves.

[@marauderpride927]

@@kingraplhmativo5178 Exactly what I was thinking

[@robertlupa8273]

Or just give it a Roseli Berry.

[@KobeLoverTatum]

4:03-4:13 Because Lance isn't the champion in gen 1, he's a member of the elite 4, Blue/Gary is the champion who does travel around the region with you.

[@KimJongUnnum1]

True, because if your argument is Lance was the champion and lost it to Blue or Gary then the question becomes who is the mystery elite 4 member who got kicked out once Lance lost as champion to Blue or Gary and returned to E4.

[@r41n3raine2]

*Toby hyping how high-leveled Cythina is.* Red: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@Kahtisemo]

To be fair, Red is the option battle off the beaten path after beating the post-game. Cynthia is the end of the main storyline, so she's pretty hard for a player at that point of the storyline.

[@r41n3raine2]

@@Kahtisemo Yes, I agree with Red being a optional trainer but he is way high-leveled than every champions in their regions and even I haven't seen any NPCs with Pokemons above 80 lvls aside from Red in Gen 2, 4 and 7.

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@superdavid14Gaming]

@@r41n3raine2 they had to increase Red’s levels in Gen 4 because he got outdone by Barry’s team in platinum reaching the low to mid 80’s, and Cynthia’s rematch reaching the same levels as the original red team

[@stefanovitali2925]

Red has levels and a gen2 Snorlax, but you're in post-post game and his moves and typing kinda suck.

[@morphstarchangeling8024]

My first time ever reaching Cynthia I was out of power points, my entire team was fainted except my empoleon, and all I had left was the move cut. Then she threw out spiritomb and I cried alittle because I had no way to hurt it.

[@ricebun4669]

I love that Pokemon made their first female Champion the best one :"3 It took me 9 tries for my 8-year old self to beat her the first time, I'll never forget her! Her appearances in later games triggered my fight or flight response ;w;

[@typemasters2871]

Talking about champions lore wise, here are my opinions: -Lance, he seems like the serious type who takes his champion title, well, seriously with a powerful Dragonite to back up his title -Steven, someone who loves stones more than battles but does takes things seriously when the time comes, Wallace willing to take Steven’s place if Steven is busy doing his own thing -Cynthia, I like how in the anime she has difficulty choosing what food to eat, has a deep knowledge of her region’s culture, and her battling proves that she is champion material -Alder, I like the trope of him being a care free sage, someone who knows all the answers but rather enjoy life than being a dispenser of knowledge -Diantha, great character even if she treats being a champion as part of her celebrity life style -Leon, quite overconfident, hams up his performances, but I admire his ideal of making sure everyone is having fun In terms of strength: Leon (almost undefeatable), Red (also almost undefeatable), Cynthia, Alder, Diantha, Steven, Lance (even though Lance takes his title more seriously than Steven and Diantha, not to say Steven and Diantha don’t acknowledge their title as champion)

[@TheDeathmail]

Technically, Red is undefeated, since canonically, you can lose while fighting him in any games...

[@redwelch7547]

You forgot Iris from B2W2.

[@popnpets8022]

TheDeathmail bruh you can lose but that doesn’t mean it is cannon

[@popnpets8022]

TheDeathmail also what ab sumo

[@QualityInternetTrash]

Pop N' Pets Nah, Thedeathmail is technically right cuz it was never explicitly said who won the battle of mount silver. And im pretty sure its the same situation for other poké protags

[@Firewire780]

Cynthia is still one of my most favorite pokemon characters of all time

[@monsterno.definablenever.3484]

She's the strongest, in a place where training is hard. Of course she's the best.

[@maximuscraig8222]

“cYnTHiA iS tHe eAsiESt chAmPioN” Said nobody ever (This is probably a comment that’s been made before now That I think about it)

[@grandempress1947]

Not the easiest by any means, but aside from Garchomp. I pretty much ragdolled her first try. So Ig to me Idk why she’s seen as such a neigh-unstoppable force of nature lol

[@maximuscraig8222]

Rei Genesis that’s fair. Cynthia doesn’t have to be the hardest but it’s hard to see her as the easiest

[@trent800]

It has been said IE the same argument for saying newer champions are trash I used a level 100 competitive team and she was easy

[@grandempress1947]

Trent That would make ANY champ pathetically easy. How is that even an argument? My team was Torterra, Starapter, Lucario, Abomasnow, Luxray, and Vespiquen. Nothing special, but it tore her apart pretty easily. I was only around 62 or so in level

[@icantbelieveyoudonethis4059]

Maximus Craig she’s definitely hardest I’ve fought. Her team as a whole isn’t terribly tough until you get to Garchomp. I’d say Leon’s team is overall harder than her team but Garchomp is harder than anything he’s got imo.

[@chadettemayo389]

I remember when I first beat Cynthia on my own (without my brother’s help) it felt like my greatest accomplishment ever.

[@brandonm8901]

When I played Diamond for the first time I didn't realize / remember you had to face the Champion immediately after the Elite 4 (despite having already played FireRed and Emerald, I must have been really stupid) It's safe to say after scraping through the Sinnoh Elite 4 with a badly damaged team, my first surprise battle against Cynthia did NOT go well 😅

[@SmolRageMatti]

Hoenn was my favorite region, but Cynthia is my favorite champion. I had a major crush on her as a kid and I actually remember her battle quite well and I loved the strategy & frustration of battling her. It took a few tries to win but it felt so satisfying. It was just what I wanted from a champion (though I also want challenge from the game). Agreed that her battle music is flipping amazing.

[@Lazlopressplay]

The Arcues event was released in HGSS. You had to get it at a Toy R Us for your DPPt game. But then again that was in the USA

[@robertlupa8273]

Don't forget that Cynthia's Roserade has Extrasensory, which is an Egg Move that can only be passed down by Nuzleaf and Shiftry, neither of which can be found in Sinnoh (unless you connect it to Ruby). That's yet another thing that Cynthia has over you.

[@SuperEpicNiceGuy]

"It's free to play" *cries in incompatible phone even tho it's new seriously tho, why haven't they fixed it yet

[@thatfirstdude]

I can relate

[@mienshaoman5928]

Same

[@Undrave]

Funny...my game isn't new and its working...but man is the game HEAVY on the storage >

[@skyejacobs]

The game isn't even available in the Netherlands

[@thatfirstdude]

@@skyejacobs Dang, that sucks

[@clarkside4493]

6:49 On my last run of Platinum, I went out of my way to get a Spiritomb for my team and I didn't regret it. I ended up with Infernape, Azumaril, Roserade, Steelix, Spiritomb, and Staraptor. I excavated for shards to have great moves, I charged through the less important NPCs, but when I faced Cynthia, I STILL ended up having to spam Revives and I just felt completely defeated. Though I suppose I shouldn't feel too bad about it since, of course, she also used Full Restores.

[@justsomeotherguywithamusta6810]

Fun fact: Cynthia's Garchomp has perfect IVs.

[@eduardocervantes4390]

Always liked that Pokémon champions teams always include Pokémon that are rare or difficult to obtain. Example Cynthia’s team in DP had a Milotic, which was hard to get before the prism scale, a Lucario, which there is only one in the whole game, a Spiritomb that can only be obtained using the wifi connection in the underground and a Garchomp, a pseudo legendary that takes a lot of time to get it to evolve. Lance had 3 Dragonites, a Charizard, a starter that was no way available in the game unless you trade, and an Aerodactyl, in which can only be obtained if you revived an old amber which isn’t in the game, or in game trade, all in his original GSC lineup and switched it up to include a Salamence and Garchomp in HGSS. Leon had the only Charizard in the whole Galar region, a pseudo legendary Dragapult and the only other starter Pokémon. Diantha had a difficult to evolve pseudo legendary Goodra, both rare fossil Pokémon and a Mega Gardevoir.

[@DayneGodwin]

I'm nostalgic about Steven Stone because my original Sapphire game was like the first one I ever played through while feeling like I knew what I was doing. My best friend and I played together, we chipped in and got the Prima's guide and would share it and try to find all the cool Pokemon and stuff. Beating Steven with his tough Steel types seemed so difficult back in 2003! I will agree that competitively, Cynthia is the toughest champion though. In the Sun & Moon era, I had a TCG deck that was themed around her.

[@minter5571]

Garchamp: you've taken everything form me Kommo,o:i dont even know you

[@irgyn]

i used to not start the battle with her, just so i could listen to that piano intro on repeat

[@ThedHomie]

Btw Toby, in the Cyrus quest. It is stated that Cynthia hatched a Jangmo-o out of an egg and trained it to become a Kommo-o. The question now is where did she get that Kommo-o egg?

[@milesandrews6711]

I mean she could've gotten it from someone who bred kommo o

[@bobobserver8990]

Even with Dialga Cynthia was tough. Of course Diamond was the last time I used a legendary on my team. Sure Victini was on my White team for a bit, but it never made it to the Unova Elite 4.

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@SpiritedFalcon]

Dialga makes her easy, one roar of time and garchomp dies. That's why I don't like using legendaries, it makes everything easy.

[@bobobserver8990]

@@SpiritedFalcon Provided it doesn't outspeed you and hit you with an earthquake. Her Lucario could also use fighting attacks to take it out (Dialga's steel typing was the only place it held weaknesses). Most of my teams biggest weakness back then was either electric, ground, or fighting types and it took multiple attempts to finally beat her due to the team being a bit under leveled by the time I got to the elite 4.

[@krookodilegang6192]

I hate using legendaries too tje only one I used was Yveltal as its my fav

[@clem-lv2rw]

12:30 You tell me, first time I fought her I had Dialga with me. It made it out of the fight either in the red or a few HP away from it. My Tortera was the only other pokemon on my team to not be fainted by the end of the fight, and it was in the same predicament as Dialga. I'm almost certain I had a Staraptor and a Luxrai with Intimidate (not sure if it was in platinum that I first cheesed her Garchomp by switching between two 'mons with Intimidate, and even then it still hit like a truck), my good old Bibarell, who, like the other non legendary members of my team, had been in it since the beginning and despite being my HM slave still pulled its weight, and not ONLY as a quick sacrifice switch, and I genuinely don't remember my last pokemon. Might have been a Floatzel, that or a Rampardos. It was my first pokemon game and I had no clue how to evolve Riolu, if I had I would have had a Lucario on my team, just because even before I even knew how to get it it was my favourite pokemon (it still is as a matter of fact). I also had no clue that trying to get my Tortera to solo Candace was a bad idea, so judge 10 year old me accordingly. Before anyone asks, it worked, but it was very much an uphill battle. Like battling the second gym with nothing but my then Grotle. Or the subsequent Eterna City Team Galactic hideout. Pretty sure I remember my Grotle evolving from fighting Jupiter. I don't think I used any other pokemon until that point, despite basically having a full team two badges prior.

[@TrueBladeSoul]

Yeah I always had torterra by maylene

[@tyrant-den884]

GameFreak is really trying to force Leon down our throats though.

[@appelofdoom8211]

Fun fact: platinum cynthia and trace are the only champions* who don't have any pokemon with overlapping types. Steven, wallace, lance and iris are type speciaists. diatha and N have both fossils with diantha als having 2 dragon types (tyrantrum and goodra) Alder has 3 bug types (accelgor. escavalier, volcarona) Leon has a ghost type (aegislash) a dragon type (haxorus) and a ghost/dragon type (dragapullt) Blue has 2 psychic types (alakazam and exeguttor) and/or 2-3 flying types (pidgeot, charizard and gyarados) depending on your starter diamond and pearl cynthia is also the only incarnation of her to have pokemon with overlapping type thanks to gastrodon who shares water with milotic and ground with garchomp *by that i mean their first team when fought as champions fought as champions which is why i included N but not red and why im not bringing up champion rematches

[@TheDjbz]

The way I beat her in pokemon Pearl was to spam revives while my abomasnow’s hail chipped her down. She was just Ohko’ing *everything* I had

[@crackz66]

Just finished a Platinum playthrough today and I have to say that Flint's Infernape and Lucian's Alakzam/Espeon caused me more trouble than any of the members of Cynthia's team...but I guess that bringing a Weavile helped alot (My levels were between 49 - Heracross and 59 - Infernape so I didn't really grinded )

[@raaefahmed7968]

Hey! I've been loving your content recently, and this video especially because I have fond memories of battling Cynthia with my favourite playthrough team in Platinum.

[@PranjalDhungana]

If you want to make this a series, I think you should do lean (who I feel like is a very difficult champion). He is a champion who has to deal with champion duties more than any others. While all other champions do something outside of their title, he is soley focused on being the best and strongest champion possible. Similar to you, he started his journey in wedgehurst and make it all the way to being an unbeaten champ. He also has a massive fanbase that he needs to deal with and has a friendship with the most powerful person in the region. He starts off with an Aegislash, a pokemon you have to be very weary fighting because you don't want to get caught by kings shield too much. Then, he has a dragapult, a Pokemon you've probably never seen at that point because it's a 1% encounter in the final area unlocked in the wild area. He has a haxsorous that is fast and hits hard and can even counter fairy types since it packs poison jab. His weakest pokemon is seismatoad, but even it packs toxic and earthquake to stall you out and hit hard. Then, he has the starter you didn't pick, showing that he still has the drive to be able to raise a pokemon from scratch and make it his second best pokemon. Finally, his g-max charizard is a beast. It has incredible coverage move and it's max move is really annoying to deal with.

[@khalidahmed8402]

An example of a great female character by you know, making her interesting and well written along with being a extremely powerful trainer who earned the right to be called the best Pokemon Champion in the games. Characters like Rey and Captain Marvel could learn from her.

[@MagisterMasekoGameplay]

Yes, she's a great example of how to write a female character or any other character for that matter.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@MagisterMasekoGameplay Absolutely. Absolutely. But: "We all know Cynthia is the best." No, apparently, a lot of Fans think otherwise and now it shows that even the Creators of the Anime dont know this. I feel deeply ashamed that the Journeys-Anime now really goes with this always-has-been-nonsensical statement that Leon is Unbeaten and the Truly Strongest Champion. Even though countless Analysis-Videos say otherwise. He has nice Type-Coverage, but not the Best. Also... his posing is cringey, by the way... Cynthia is the Best in all Regards but the Anime actively spreads false facts about this topic. Wow.

[@milesandrews6711]

@@loturzelrestaurant Cynthia fan boys actively spread false facts about this topic wym anime is wrong The anime is literally pokemon Canon, what makes you decide that Cynthia is canonically the strongest champion over the writers? Leon's team is also much more beastlike than Cynthia He has a better pseudo legendary and the rest of his team has more heavy hitters like haxorus and rillaboom And let's not forget the currently banned cinderace( it's the only champion pokemon in ubers other than zekrom/reshiram)

[@verximama828]

@@milesandrews6711 Well Garchomp was in ubers Gen 4, and is still viable to this day. Not many pokemon can claim being in Ou or for 4(technically 5 but 4 since it's still mid gen 8) straight generations in a row.

[@milesandrews6711]

@@verximama828 yeah it was ubers in Gen 4, the gen where there was arguably the lease power creep, afterwards it just stayed in ou the entire time and even currently it's kinda outclassed by Lando t in every role other than defensive Rocky helmet just because it has rough skin

[@hennyzhi2261]

I like her the most because she was one of the first to feel like both a real person with interests outside being champion like Steven while still getting stuff done when the villains attack like Lance (to a slightly less extent because the game still has to give the player the real challenges for it to work as a game... she could have totally defeated Cyrus if you failed). She also has the cutest personality where she'll go from serious to silly in seconds because of her imposing presence in anime being mostly a misconception.

[@WarmLillie]

I wonder if I could borrow and wear her new kommo-o suit? Do you think it could suit me?

[@Undrave]

Sygna Suits are custom made by a mysterious fashion designer on Pasio that we have yet to meet... They made one for Brock (and his Tyranitar), one for Red (and Charizard), one for Elesa (and Rotom), one for Grimsley (and Sharpedo, its very dapper) and now Cynthia. We also know that Leaf and Blue have one coming, due to the 6 month anniversary trailer (to go with their Mega Venusaur and Mega Blastoise!). I'm sure that designer could make you one that would suit you even more!

[@SpiritedFalcon]

Your the person who goes on amourshippingfanboi12s vids saying stuff XD

[@dariru27]

everytime I saw that dragon rush its like ww1,2 flashbacks

[@Havinganopinionin]

nobody talks about iris in challenge mode having competitive movesets and items

[@Undrave]

And I like her battle music better myself

[@Rothana76]

Probably because it’s not exactly a fair comparison. That’s like comparing base game enemies to what you’d see running in NG+ in Dark Souls or something.

[@Havinganopinionin]

@@Rothana76 hey man it is what it is

[@nerdymidwesterner3662]

@@Rothana76 I wouldnt doubt that some people wouldnt understand that analogy but i appreciate seeing some souls players here

[@kotzer71]

how many people have even played challenge mode like they made it stupid so you can't even use it on the same cartedge you unlocked with lol

[@IexistIguessidk]

Her Rematch Garchomp from Platinum outseed my Rayquaza until that was like in its mid 80s....that monster is fast.

[@Mayo_Blast]

We need a video about the true final boss of gen 2, youngster Joey! In all seriousness though I've often wondered if blue and red would have become as powerful as they were if not for each other. Like how much were they pushing each other through out the journey.

[@katonnor]

I would guess not. They were constantly trying to defeat each other so they had a reason to keep up their training

[@LucarioShirona]

Before Leon, Cynthia has a good number of information of her character as a Champion, she had a unnamed sister, she loves the studies of Pokémon Mythology, she can be a bit messy, she said she has more than one house outside of Sinnoh, I may have missed some, but there's so much more that want to learn about her. I hope when the Sinnoh Remakes comes around, we learn more about Cynthia. Edit: Damn it. I made a stupid typo and now I can't remember what was one of the points I meant to say. I am so sorry.

[@ikanasin3983]

Pls edit this that is NOT a good typo

[@LucarioShirona]

@@ikanasin3983 ohh jeez, I have no idea how that slipped my fingers. Thanks for pointing it out.

[@ianfairbanks1318]

Anyone else want to see what happens when AI vs. AI in pokemon games? bring every trainer to battle, see who comes out on top.

[@dracyo3564]

The timing of this video appearing in my recommendations is kind of ironic and scary. I’m about to face the platinum elite four in my first ever nuzlocke.

[@thebestusername1400]

She is good I just replayed platinum and she was still a lil difficult this time my team was Torterra,Togekiss,Lucario, Magmortar,Electivire and Dusknior And I put choice specs on magmortar and it killed everything 🤙🤙🤣

[@fayiz_Fz]

Electrivire with bone club and physical attacks

[@alvissalfred7688]

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[@iamjafar925]

If there ever was an "Elite" Elite four with only Champions. You'd fight Diana, Steven, Alder, Red and then Cynthia

[@prehistoricworld_]

I think “Waifu” is the only evidence we need as to why Cynthia is the best champion

[@marjitorahee352]

Dude, you stole my comment

[@prehistoricworld_]

Marjito Rahee you don’t even have another comment under this video

[@Unknownfrencghost]

Ahhhhh!

[@yuvrajsingh743]

@Inferno Infernape whose first 👀

[@prehistoricworld_]

Inferno Infernape I can respect that 😂

[@EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv]

13:11 Cytheia did appear in S/M & UltraSun/UltraMoon in the Battle Tree. Along with Mega Garchomp. So she could have caught it there.

[@ShinyAshwin]

While Alder is my favorite for personal reasons, Cynthia is definitely the best champion of all the games’ champions.

[@zenjen3328]

Pearl was my first game, and I remember trying to beat her for days, and finally best her with struggle after struggling (hah) for hours on a road trip

[@luckybisen1131]

I one hit knocked out Garchomp with roar of time by Dialga in my first diamond gameplay. After it whenever I have encountered Cynthia's Garchomp(In platinum or unova games) he always knock out my 2 or 3 pokemon easily.It seems like he always want to take revenge of that insult from me🙂🙂

[@InfernoTune727]

Everytime i hear that theme i will get flashbacks

[@MhViVi1]

Your pfp say it all 😭

[@valasafantastic1055]

Great Stuff. She's just the best. Her design suits me personally. 1) super long ankle length hair 2) beautiful black clothing 3) all her Pokemon are ones I love and personally use (with the exception of Togekiss which I dislike the design of, so not love just like...) anyway her physical appearance is also a factor. I think she's the best champion personally. She's the most like my alter ego and personal versions of being a Pokemon trainer so I also feel close to her for that reason too.

[@ichibanbento]

I love Cynthia and have very vivid memories of my fight against her, I got her down to Garchomp and ultimately lost so badly that I had to ask my older brother to battle her for me, of which I was quite ashamed to do back then.

[@Zenith8896]

Cynthia is also tough at the Battle Tree.

[@notinusesoon4975]

what can i say, -the- -devs- -we- -i- someone probably wants cynthia to step on them voluntarily

[@Celestia282]

There are also a lot of really nice, um, *images* of Cynthia on certain websites. I enjoy those, as well.

[@ikanasin3983]

😏

[@SpiritedFalcon]

Those images are made by retards

[@damyenhockman5440]

The Kommo-o makes sense for Cynthia, as that pokémon, like Cynthia, is also steeped in myths. The species seems dedicated to suppressing the power of the hands of Arceus, like Necrozma, Eternatus, and Kyurem Prime. As a species that exists to fight the gods of their world, what better partner for one who would reveal their secrets?

[@pokemonarch8718]

Just make her garchomp mega evolve and we all are dead

[@donisamwentete5079]

So true 😐🤣🤣

[@adamthejarvis5503]

I know where Cynthia probably caught her Kommo-o. She probably caught it in Alola while she was staying at the Battle Tree. (She's a trainer there)

[@LrnecBuma]

I miss the power hike Cynthia always caught me off gaurd. It also feels in lore level 80-85 is red level power 70-80 is unheard of outside of battle facilities and i guess Red and Blue were relaxing in Alola and not pushing too hard as they drop to 70s.60-70 is veterans and Rematches where you go all out. Meanwhile Cynthia got 17,000 of my gems 😭 but i got 1/5. She has beaten me in game and financially.

[@LuminousArc92]

though now with the remakes announced for Diamond and Pearl, Cynthia is going to be a lot easier. A) because they're going to nerf her because pokemon isn't allowed to be challenging. They'll probably lower the levels of her team and or give them weaker moves and B) because of fairy types. Makes a weakness on Spiritomb and a counter to Garchomp. Take a Togekiss and half it's moves (earthquake and dragon rush) don't work

[@ei7945]

Me who thought I wouldn't even beat her but instead I almost 1-Shot her team: 👁👄👁

[@Rahnonymous]

Blue is a close second, but she takes that win from brutal difficulty alone. Her being so tough just makes her more memorable

[@nicholsusmc]

Loved your video!!! My favorite champion was always Steven! His steel types gave me a real challenge during his time. I was pretty unprepared for it. Also he has some serious class and has a very straight forward style which I really respect. Also I like the Elite 4 under Steven more. Just my opinion. However Cynthia will always have my respect but never really challenge me since my team always had an answer for her Pokémon!

[@prehistoricworld_]

Taking on the elete 4 in ORAS with a dangerously underleveled team, with the only super effective move being brick break on a Grovyle, I would have to agree with that. Must’ve taken me at least 20 attempts to beat him lol

[@BirdKeeperToby]

aw thanks mate ^_^

[@nicholsusmc]

Ben Weston the first time I fought Stevens Metagross I thought I could take it with my Blazikens Blaze kick. This dude tanked it and one-shot my starter with an earthquake that I felt IRL! 😂

[@sameon4248]

@@prehistoricworld_ It was easy to beat him, in fact i was able to beat him two times straight

[@prehistoricworld_]

Samrath Singh ok? I bet you weren’t running with a Shedinja which was unusable, a first stage starter and an underleveled rest of the team, with no fire or dark moves

[@danieldishon688]

Can we be a little fair to Alder. He's got a lot of cool Gravitas to him too. You don't actually get to even fight him after the Elite 4. You show up and Ns beat him and taken over the plateau. You have to face him as post game. He too has a diverse party, is their guiding you as an ultimate mentor along your journey and he just looks cool. That hair could belong to an anime main protagonist or to Goku going SS4. It's hard not to picture Yami Yugis authoritative heroic voice for him playing the game and then you watch the anime and it turns out they did cast that same guy for him too.

[@enoderosso]

This video had me so hyped! Cynthia is not only the best Champion but one of the best Pokemon characters of all time!

[@BirdKeeperToby]

I think shes my favorite Pokemon charecter!

[@maxitooo87]

i played platinum last year fot the first time, and garchomp was the only one of cynthia's team to faint in one move an ice beam of my lvl 55 floatzel holding a never-melt ice and... ohko

[@DeltaYT_Aarav]

Just downloaded Pokemon Masters.... Cant wait to play it. Might even do a Let's Play series!!!

[@julianthemeta-roar]

Awesome Video Toby! =D Are You Planning On Making Other Champion Videos? Also Why Do You Make The Champions Eyes Green Even When You’re Not Making A Theory About Them Being Evil? Just Curious.

[@dragonfye1]

Ugh! She made me want to rip my hair out! I remember getting so frustrated and thinking; ‘if I only had my Dragonite, you would PAY!’. Too bad I had to beat her before I could transfer my Dragonite from emerald version, 😂. Today tho, those memories are quite precious to me...and Cynthia is now my favorite trainer in the series; she kicks ass in the games, she’s adorable in the manga, and down right hilarious in the anime...’one Bearticone, please.’ 🤣🥰

[@SpiritedFalcon]

I beat her first try mainly because of luck. I was crushing her team until her last pokemon garchomp, it one shotted 3 members of my team lol, the only reason I won was because dragon rush missed and I got a crit with giga drain.

[@Shego]

Although I first heard of Cynthia in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl anime series, I’ve first met her in Pokémon Black. Then again in Black 2. And then, I met her again in Pokémon Sun. I like her a lot. Her character has influenced me to become stronger as I possibly can.

[@itaycohen3274]

cynthia was so strong they nerfed her team in platinum

[@SpiritedFalcon]

I haven't played platinum but I think her platinum team is gonna be harder once I decide to play it. Because gastrodon is very easy to beat.

[@Eric-py8yy]

@@SpiritedFalcon Man Platinum team is more thougth and i dont thougth super difficult

[@milesandrews6711]

They buffed her in platinum Gsstrodon is a free kill while togekiss is a pokemon actually worth something even if it has hustle

[@Eric-py8yy]

@@milesandrews6711 yes, gastrodon is good but Togekiss is better

[@RadenWA]

Isn’t she basically the first ever league trainer that doesn’t use monotype so it caught people by surprise

[@luizbezerra4373]

Technically your rival in the 1st gen games also doesn't use monotype on the championship match

[@sivartfarmer]

I'm personally a Lance fan, but Cynthia is a close second for me

[@threes_leaves]

Ah yes, Lance, the greatest flying type master in the world

[@sivartfarmer]

@@threes_leaves You ain't wrong. The only reasons I think so highly of him is 1, He Hyper Beamed a dude! And 2, my memories of getting stomped by him to the sound of that amazing music in HG.

[@chriscascio3355]

I used Abomasnow with hail, and a Garchomp level 55 to try to beat her Gatchomp