Why Is SEGA Delisting Their Classic Games?

[@NicheXCC]

They dont want to compete with their superior past.

[@DylanBelievesInTheNet]

Also for a further elaboration on WHY some games can be delisted...Many of them use copyrighted music and they don't want to pay the licensing fee.

[@RisingSonic17]

This is what I was thinking about for Crazy Taxi, because now it's been like 10+ years since the re-release. So maybe those copyrights ran out for the new songs. Probably the same for OG JSR

[@supergamerboydx9158]

5:16 PERSONA!?!?

[@DylanBelievesInTheNet]

Sega...doing what Nintendoes for once, huh?

[@Sonkuthehedgehog]

so what im hearing is.. get my pirate hat?

[@RisingSonic17]

Do what you feel you gotta do

[@WarioShaker]

Internet archive is probably going to have a field day after this

[@RisingSonic17]

@WarioShaker most DEFINITELY

[@INFERNO95]

Or get a job a buy the collection

[@OM19_MO79]

Are you that lazy to get an old DVD for PS2, XBOX, Game Cube, XBOX 360, PS3, PSP, XBOX ONE, PS4, Switch; one of the two Genesis Minis or any of the many Atgames consoles? Man, you don't even have to be rich to get most of those for the Genesis. That's just plain laziness.

[@rabidguineapig]

you know one of the things that makes Sega so cool these days is how cool they are over fan games and rom hacks and stuff. Even if they don't seem to know how to make a good Sonic game lately (shots fired... okay I haven't played frontiers yet so I can't judge) they're not stopping other people from trying. That's why them delisting all of these games feels like such a slap in the face for long time Sega fans. Welp, I have most of those games anyway, I still S3nK from Steam so that's good.

[@RisingSonic17]

They were having such a good year, too, so to get hit with this news is like your girlfriend telling you you're having a baby and you ain't the father

[@michaelmcd64]

It genuinely sucks that they are delisting all of these, but I imagine that they maybe have some new rereleases planned? That's the only reason I can think of as to why they'd do that.

[@RisingSonic17]

That's what I'm thinking, and it would make the most logical sense, but again, who knows. Maybe they just wanna get rid of it just because... they can.

[@geekgo4]

Now, maybe people should stop saying "SEGA does what Nintendon't?" Because this is what Nintendoes!

[@RisingSonic17]

Nintendo definitely be doing this too randomly

[@INFERNO95]

Capcom, Konami, Capcom bandaid square Enix etc does it too.

[@geekgo4]

@@INFERNO95 You said Capcom twice.

[@AntiRiku]

Delisting and censoring. Man.. I hate this timeline.

[@RisingSonic17]

Delisting always sucks

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

Just get Paramount or BANDI NAMCO Entertainment to buy SEGA and "uncensor" whatever.

[@michelleburke476]

Good thing I have all of these games on original hardware, they can’t take those away lol

[@RisingSonic17]

God bless. You're honestly goated🙏🏿

[@INFERNO95]

And people wonder why I keep my old games.

[@humanoidcorn4476]

@@michelleburke476 and it's a good thing I have those on an emulator! So, jokes on them!

[@nesmario123]

the kid chameleon and ristar fans are gonna be devestated.

[@RisingSonic17]

I think everyone is devastated at this point

[@bingus48]

As someone who likes Ristar, i haven't felt a resemblance of a positive emotion in 20 years

[@RisingSonic17]

@bingus48 💀

[@pilotmemes]

If they're real fans wouldn't they already own the games digitally or physically by now?

[@nesmario123]

@@pilotmemes well if you're a fan of the games in question and you would recommend it to some people... how would new players get the games?

[@Esshersimpbdlcrew]

Like what i usualy said. pirating games sometimes is morally correct if the company behind the games dont have the game available.

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

SEGA doesn't give two fucks if you emulate their old games. They just ignore emulators like if they're non-existent. :)

[@bobobobobofan]

The reason behind Sega delisting games is likely because they want to encourage players to focus on their newer releases. While this may be a strategic move for Sega, it negatively impacts game preservation efforts. Sadly, this decision further complicates the already challenging task of preserving gaming history.

[@RisingSonic17]

Yeah. I stated this in terms of why Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio are on that list, but even I still don't agree with it. Since those games are how those IPs got started to begin with. I just think it's silly to remove these old games for those interested in wanting to try them the "legal" way.

[@Paul-xm2ic]

Apple tv 4k

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

Or they want to move their old games to Gamivo. After the delisting of the original non-remastered classic Sonic games, SEGA moved Sonic 1 to Gamivo as a Steam digital key. There's a chance SEGA may do the same with the other classics.

[@RisingSonic17]

@ThunderTheYellowJolteon I didn't even know that was a thing. Interesting

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

​@@RisingSonic17 I just discovered it from a video called "RTX 3070 vs RX 6700 XT - Which is Better in New Games?" made by this user called Testing Games. I urge ANY person to buy the old SEGA games from Gamivo instead of Steam, since SEGA obviously wants their games to be preserved better with Gamivo and Steam keys.

[@NCC-0000]

Emulation of these Systems and games is very easy even with a low-end PC or a not so old Jailbroken console…

[@RisingSonic17]

Yeah, but still. Sometimes it's nice to not always depend on emulation

[@Theneptuno]

Hoping for a new sega collection

[@RisingSonic17]

I'm hoping for one too.

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

Me too.

[@xboxclown8922]

This is a leading reason why I been buying games from GOG. Sure once in a blue moon, games gets delisted there as well. But you actually keep the games no matter what. Sega does have several of their games on there mostly Like a Dragon series.

[@RisingSonic17]

I actually didn’t know that. Are the SEGA Genesis Clsssics and Dreamcast Collection on there at all?

[@ThunderTheYellowJolteon]

You can keep games on Steam as well, using Steam keys or just buying games that don't have DRM in them.

[@justanotherrandomchannel6981]

This is making me wish I could find my Ultimate Genesis Collection disc.

[@DaveTheRetroGuy]

I guess physical edition of Deamcast Collection is gonna become rare

[@RisingSonic17]

Very rare

[@Nights-gh2hn]

I bought the Genesis Collection not too many days ago, and I do have the Sonic Mega Collection for my Gamecube, and I do have both NiGHTS into dreams and Christmas NiGHTS into dreams for the original Sega Saturn. But Jet Set Radio and Crazy Taxi, I wish I had them.

[@RisingSonic17]

If there was any chance to get those games, you need to get them now then.

[@Nights-gh2hn]

@@RisingSonic17 I should

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@Nights-gh2hn pirated versions of the pc ports also work and I believe they even have some improvement mods and fixes on there as well.

[@JomasterTheSecond]

Sega loves revisionist history.

[@RisingSonic17]

When It can be most convenient to em💀

[@nesmario123]

i think i got a reason as to why they're getting delisted. the collection thing was developed in collaboration with D3T... i guess something was going on behind the scenes and thus sega decided to give up the collection. that or the games aren't being sold as much as sonic (such as kid chameleon and ristar... mean bean machine is doing fine) copyright i'm not sure since iirc their music is replaced in the case of crazy taxi.

[@RisingSonic17]

Damn. But I also wouldn't be surprised if copyright was a reason for games like Crazy Taxi and JSR

[@sheldoncooper8199]

I am certain They will release a Sega Genesis Collection for the PS 5 with Like 80 Games for 60 $ Thats my Theory. Getting the PS 4 Sega Genesis Collection December 1. Physical for 24 $

[@MrSerpico145]

Really, I'm really getting to the point of not buying anymore games with the garbage going on in the industry. I have a huge backlog anyway.

[@RisingSonic17]

If you wanna hold back from buying new games, I don't blame you.

[@crashtefano]

I just got the news after adding Nights Into Dreams to my Steam wishlist. Quite disappointing

[@RisingSonic17]

Yeah it's a terrible situation

[@DuelmasterX3]

Yeah, I'm hoping for new collection rereleases or if not, maybe the delisted stuff can be shoehorned into the Yakuza series somehow? I dunno.

[@RisingSonic17]

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a nee collection

[@BlueSky-uf6oy]

Sonic Origins is inferior to the actual classic games, thanks to the different physics engine not suited for the old level design, and replaced music. It's not as horrible as the GTA Trilogy, but it's still the same dangerous mentality; delist the old to make way for an inferior re-release. No game is safe from this.

[@PikangsFutaba]

While I like Sonic Origins, I DO know when others are right, and that statement of being inferior to the actual classics is totally true, but as you said, is much better than the GTA Trilogy, still that doesn't excuse to prevent other people playing the older versions (like in my case for example, I still find myself playing the original Sonic 3... & Knuckles more than the Origins versions... especially if I don't want to play as Amy).

[@sonicmaiden2871]

I miss the time attack mode for the special stages in Sonic CD. Why the Sonic Origins version of Sonic CD doesn't have that?! Also MJ Sonic 3 music is superior to whatever the new songs in Origins for Sonic 3 are.

[@PikangsFutaba]

@@sonicmaiden2871 Funny enough, the Origins songs are actually from one of the Sonic 3 Prototypes/PC Sonic & Knuckles Collection, yeah, is baffling that unless people go to "questionable" methods to play the old versions, they are forced to use the re-releases (which usually are worse than the originals, in this case it could have been worse as is still good enough to not fully suck, but still), sure, the PC version of Origins can be modded to fix some of that stuff to some extent (like having limited lives in both normal and mirror anniversary modes which are in widescreen AND in Sonic 3 the MJ songs in the 3 zones that are featured) but it would take time to make them feel very close to the classics (I doubt they can do a 1 to 1 recreation)..

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@PikangsFutaba true and I know. Sadly I have the ps5 version so I can't mod that but I also have sonic mega collection on ps2 as well so I have a Sonic 3 version with the og music as well. Mega Collection is also on PC so you could pirate that since it's technically abandonware (aka i doubt Sega will ever rerelease that collection with the same name and that's what it makes it abandonware). I heard the best way to play Sonic 3 is Sonic 3 air which does require the rom file. That is a nice unofficial way to play it since it has lots of customisation options and plenty of mods released for it as well. Bit yeah thankfully we have plenty of options to play sonic 3 at least.

[@PikangsFutaba]

@@sonicmaiden2871 Oh yeah, A.I.R. , I'm lucky that I was able to get the delisted rom file from steam and I can play that version of Sonic 3 (and recently it got a mod to add Amy with her Origins/Superstars moves... and extras if you want to enable that while keeping the original physics, also giving the option for both the Prototype/Origins and good old classic MJ's tunes for the 3 Sonic 3 zones (let's be honest, unless if it's for curiosity or for a change, the MJ's tunes are what most players are going to use because obvious reasons)... oh, and also for good measure adding to Sky Sanctuary Zone in Sonic's route the Sonic 1 and 2 boss themes for the throwback boss fights), funny that I have the option to use GCN vanilla Mega Collection, Ps2 Mega Collection Plus, I still have both Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles to combine them in the full experience, A.I.R., the official emulation on Steam (that I got before it was delisted due to Origins release) and Origins, of all those choices, I go A.I.R., then any OG version related methods like Sonic Mega Collection and the actual Sega Genesis carts (special mention to the Sonic 3 Complete hack... which probably inspired A.I.R. , only difference is that if you have an Everdrive, that's the closest thing to A.I.R. you can have on an actual Sega Genesis or Emulators like Genesis Plus GX on Wii), and finally Origins (yup, again, the kinda worst way to play it... but compared to other non-emulated re-releases is still a good experience, especially if you have the PC version to axe the Prototype tunes in favor of MJ's tunes, while this is specific for Sonic 3, in general, while it's not a 1 to 1 experience for all 4 games, we have to admit they really did their best to make the games behave as close as possible to the original deal, sure, they failed in the long run, but they made sure the games worked almost 100%... I say that because there's a collection crash bug in Sonic 3 if you use the sound test code to remove the "& Knuckles" legends in Sonic 3 and enter the Slot Machine bonus stage, as soon as the game is about to make the bonus appear, the collection dies on you and it closes itself, on consoles you get the error message of course).

[@justanotherrandomchannel6981]

Maybe I'll make fanart of Beat with those frames some day

[@AngryCalvin]

I picked up all these on a Christmas sale years ago. Paid about $15 total for both collections. So glad I did. They will remain in your Steam library. Unlike Ubisoft games that are discontinued you will still be able to play them. This is why I won't ever buy from Ubisoft ever again.

[@RisingSonic17]

Oh yeah... Ubisoft is definitely up there as the worst way to do it. Lol.

[@humanoidcorn4476]

Geez Sega! if you're going to the delist them, at least be nice enough to put them on sale!

[@RisingSonic17]

and they usually do often

[@humanoidcorn4476]

@RisingSonic17 Just often?! Then what about now?!!

[@calvindaniels3367]

Luckily I got still got Sonic mega collection plus and jet set radio future for my original Xbox and I still have original Sonic Generations for Xbox 360 ps3 and pc

[@RisingSonic17]

I'm lucky to have those still. They'll be valuable

[@OM19_MO79]

Oh, no! SEGA is delisting the same games that have been available in several platforms and ways for almost 20 years. What are we gonna do?

[@RisingSonic17]

Some people don't have those same older consoles anymore either because they're not working or just wanted to upgrade. Some don't have PCs and such. Sure, these games have been in other previous consoles, but not everyone has the finances to go on ebay to get a lot of those classics and hell, I wouldn't wanna buy a lot of older games from randoms who juiced up the price and main devs aren't even getting money from it. Accessibility and preservation should be important. Especially when, even some consoles don't have backwards compatibility or support certain games.

[@yashmandla1234]

Their gonna make another genesis collection and litterally dont want too compete with themselves

[@RisingSonic17]

I hope that's the case.

[@mark6302]

at least ill finally be able to play Lunar again soon....

[@justanotherrandomchannel6981]

I need to buy that hoodie now

[@RisingSonic17]

Worth every penny. Very comfortable too.

[@Cloxer]

Big bummer

[@RisingSonic17]

Major bummer.

[@AdriftLegend]

Bruh, they're pulling it to rework it & bring it back. I can't tell you how many Atari collections I have that have done the same thing.

[@RisingSonic17]

You never know sometimes. Nintendo certainly doesn't always do it right. Can't blame me for expecting SEGA is gonna follow in their footsteps

[@azogdefiler25]

Well, If Sega wants to continue producing dedicated micro consoles then removing these compilations from digital stores makes sense. Micro Saturn and Dreamcast (and maybe another Mega Drive) will be the only legal way to play these games.

[@RisingSonic17]

But like why can't we just have both? What's stopping them from allowing us to just have both?

[@azogdefiler25]

It is logical to assume that people would pay 80-120$ for one microconsole than 10-25$ for one game

[@RisingSonic17]

@azogdefiler25 It depends because porting a lot of games together can lead to some inconsistent emulating

[@sonicmaiden2871]

I hope that if they will make a Dreamcast mini, they will finally rerelease Sonic Shuffle along with it.

[@Blackspidy619]

It's a cynical ploy to Rob you of older entertainment that could compete with the new one. It's that simple.

[@RisingSonic17]

I think that's insane a little bit. Those games are super old now. Those should be seen as starting grounds and then see how you evolved after all these years

[@BrianBates-vi7qk]

I have the Physical sega genesis classics for my PS4

[@RisingSonic17]

Nice! Least you had that

[@BrianBates-vi7qk]

@@RisingSonic17 At* 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Will the physical version still work if I buy it after the digital version is delisted?

[@BrianBates-vi7qk]

@ yea

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@BrianBates-vi7qk thanks for reply! Might buy it physically then.

[@pilotmemes]

The answer is money

[@RisingSonic17]

What profit would they even make from just removing all of their games? Wouldn't you want people to still buy your older games? That would still give them money

[@JukeMix]

YEAHHHHHH (not even a millisecond in)

[@RisingSonic17]

It at least makes me happy that there's someone out there that people wanna watch my stuff

[@Maxim_Shcherbinin]

I was introduced to JSR through Steam, and seeing that potentially new fans are gonna miss out on this really great game hurts my soul 💔

[@RisingSonic17]

It is a sucky situation. It's only the definitive way to play the game for me as well, so I hope it doesn't get completely lost and we can still get it somewhere

[@sonicmaiden2871]

@@RisingSonic17 thankfully that version is cracked and piratable on PC already.

[@jodyjohnson265]

One word piracy

[@picaro_TH]

fresh af

[@RisingSonic17]

Thank you my brother

[@ProjectMirai64]

Nice video

[@RisingSonic17]

thank you. thank you.

[@X2011racer]

Maybe under Nintendo's definition of piracy, Sega is in the wrong here. If those games remain in stores, they would be in violation of the law, according to Nintendo. To stay safe, they have to delist every classic rerelease that are emulated, including Sega Ages and the Nintendo Switch version of Yakuza Kiwami removing the arcade games is part of that first step. It sucks, but Nintendo has the power to strong-arm anybody who goes against them. As for Jet Set Radio, there could be a soundtrack dispute with the original composer as he and Sega don't seem to be in good terms, and Crazy Taxi once again is experiencing licensing issues with the music, as some of the indie rock groups in the rerelease may be indie no more or now require royalties that Sega no longer wants to pay. In addition, Sonic Origins will have its Plus DLC delisted for the Game Gear games in the near future, unless Sega can release a stripped-down Plus DLC that only removes the Game Gear games.

[@RisingSonic17]

Reading this only made me more depressed.

[@sonicmaiden2871]

Sonic Origins will have the gamegear games removed? Since when did they say that? The plus DLC code expires in over a decade. That wouldn't make sense.

[@phorchybug3286]

They had a Dreamcast collection?

[@RisingSonic17]

On Steam, you can buy a bundle with 6 Dreamcast games Sonic Adventure, SEGA Bass Fishing, Crazy Taxi, Space Channel 5 Part 2, Jet Set Radio, and Nights

[@ultimat3lifeform]

@@RisingSonic17also Sonic adventure 1 and 2

[@RisingSonic17]

@ultimat3lifeform only Adventure 1 was part of that collection.

[@ultimat3lifeform]

@@RisingSonic17 on steam I saw adventure 2 as part of the bundle but eh don’t want to get into a argument about it

[@RisingSonic17]

@ultimat3lifeform it probably is and I probably forgot since I just bought it separately.

[@malkmcsunny7532]

The beat drip is real 🔥 🔥 🔥 Also dam time to become pirate But not though ugly ass no neck one piece pirate

[@RisingSonic17]

Resorting to pirating is always rough, but they’re not making it any easier for us to play these older games

[@ryuno2097]

Hi handsome. ❤

[@Acronuz]

😅😅😅