Why is Serie A Dominated by the Northern Clubs?

[@BuckFC]

*** Apologies. I made a mistake with opening maps numbers, as some of those championships are pre-1929. Also the stadio comunale of Turin isn't the allianz stadium, it's the current Olimpico Grande Torino. sorry for the mistake!!!

[@robertlonghi7949]

Same as England with South and North. It’s economics. Money is in the North in Italy and in the South in England. A pity that great historic teams like Sheffield Wednesday are not in Premier League

[@BuckFC]

Yeah i hear that. Hopefully things will change. Takes time and a clear vision though

[@ChristopherMitchell-b6q]

How is it the same? The northern English clubs have always been dominant despite being from poorer areas

[@majestyswing]

This was such a beautiful video! Especially as an Italian American that roots for Napoli 🩵

[@bridgettcoleman5366]

The numbers do tell a compelling story 100%

[@BuckFC]

Very true

[@leaomarinho5023]

I feel like every country has a situation like this. Here in Brazil only teams from the southeast region have won the league in the last 20 years. Clubs from outside the southeast only won 10 of 69 seasons that count as national championships.

[@BuckFC]

Very very interesting.. thank you for the info bro. I appreciate you watching

[@charlesmorello5641]

To have a good competitive football team you need big money. That happens to be in the north of Italy with the two football team Inter( Owned by the Moratti's family ), AC Milan (owned by Berlusconi) and Juventus (FIAT Agnelli Property).

[@BuckFC]

Yea for sure, i think the 3 of those clubs have 71 out of the 95 total titles, which is just insane..

[@RanjengCisituFamily]

Sometimes in Italia : Serie A for Juve,UEFA for Inter,Champions League for Milan Roma Napoli Lazio : "what about us ?" You can have it after every 30 years"

[@BuckFC]

Thats what it seems like

[@TheProffa8719]

You also forgot about Parma and their link with Parmalat. They had a good run in the 90's!

[@elizabethcoleman6263]

another great video buck

[@bridgettcoleman5366]

Agreed

[@BuckFC]

Thank you!

[@aidygooner]

A city like Palermo, the pride of Sicily, deserves a stable and competitive club but sadly the mentality in southern Italy is chaotic and terrible. 😔

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

And Juve alone account for over 1/3. It's sad that southern teams like Bari and Foggia have all but disappeared, they enjoyed some good times in the 1990s.

[@BuckFC]

This is a real issue i think personally. Need more variety in who’s represented. I tried to include clips of bari as well. Would like to see them back up and sustain success as well

[@omamuzoobemure1260]

In my opinion Lecce also has an intelligent scouting system (probably even more intelligent than Napoli). They mostly go into obscure leagues in Eastern Europe such as the Slovakian league or the Polish League and unearth gems there without paying a serious transfer fee and they are one of the Southern teams doing it right. Almqvist for example developed into a very capable winger under the Aquile and he was playing for a mid table Polish club before he was signed. Krstović is even more impressive as Lecce took a shot on a forward who played in one of the weakest league in Central Europe (the Slovak league) and it paid off. Even Lecce youth intake is improving as they have quality scouts looking at the Danish market in order to bring talented Danish players. This is in contrast to teams like Crotone or Benevento who get promoted to Serie A (by luck since the Serie B was a joke until recently) with a Serie C squad, loan in half of their entire squad then get relegated and they go on a downwards spiral. In fairness similar things happened to Frosinone in Central Italy last season. Anyway great video and keep up the great work

[@BuckFC]

I think when i read something like this i get really excited becuase i love to play the game football manager and scouting in obscure leagues is exactly how to cheaply build a sustainable club and that hypes me up to see lecce do that. Your comment makes me want to support lecce when they play.. so thank you for that. Hopefully lecce can continue that excellent scouting trend and youth development and maybe we could see them in the conversation of european spots if its done correctly. I appreciate the comment thank you

[@mattiamelara29]

In addition to that, Lecce have also presented the project for a new and modern training center, something that a big Southern team such as Napoli do not have.

[@roberw1912]

In England we do have an over representation of London at least 6 teams in the Premier League (30%) because London has more money. Milan, Turin, Genoa and Bologna are very big cities with money, but AC Milan, Inter Milan and Juventus have historically generous owners which pumped money into the teams.

[@AndreaXV]

Also winning gets you more wins so it's all a big snowball effect that started out when the league was at its start.

[@roberw1912]

@AndreaXV that's true, I think the Northern dominance in England is a result of the league starting there first and there was few Southern teams until 50 years after it's foundation.

[@deirdremarano1692]

Another great video. Thanks Buck!

[@pierpaoloparisi2049]

Great analysis. You include Serie B images of Palermo, a very important Sicilian city. It was in Serie C in 2022, and shortly before in D. The southern teams, even in C, can get 20,000 to 30,000 spectators. Catania, for example, and like Palermo it was in D, 2 years ago, after failing, financially. Lecce is holding on, in A, for the third year, with a tiny budget, and gets many supporters. Compare teams like Como and Monza, who have come from C, and have a solid financial platform. The south has a strong spectator base, and potential. Catania was assisted by an Australian son of Sicilians (like me, but my parents are from Messina). These teams need foreign investment and management, and also to negotiate the organised crime threat, always close to any financial activity. The differences, between eastern and western Germany, would also be a good comparator.

[@mirkrishna4212]

thats because como has very rich owners and monza is in the same city as the monza gp so that makes sense.

[@BuckFC]

I like palermo and i hope to see them in serie a.. lecce is holding on and i hope they continue to do so. I would like to see a bit more representation of southern clubs not just in titles. Thanks for the response i appreciate it.

[@BuckFC]

I didnt even think of that comparison either! Very interesting

[@pierpaoloparisi2049]

@BuckFC The reasons for the comparison are extremely interesting. Football in Europe basically substituted for war. Italy was extremely regional, with fierce rivalries between city states, especially those close, eg Pisa and Florence. Mussolini saw the propaganda value of football, and "nationalised" it. He required players to play for teams outside their home area, as previously they never did. With 2 World Cup wins, and gold at Berlin 1936! Germany too had historical fragmentation, I notice a few of the players in the Eintract team, that played Real at Hampden, were from Frankfurt.

[@AllisonColeman-oh4pk]

@@pierpaoloparisi2049 As an American, I am learning so much from the video and the comments. So interesting!

[@cjhan9816]

Napoli is a major seaport & tourism.

[@michaellancuba5507]

Teams with the biggest budgets buy the best players and that’s why they are always on top

[@Ch1llzDoesStuff]

I missed yesterdays stream it didn’t give me a notification

[@StormbringerT54]

Similar with England. Most the successful clubs come from the north. Also in Spain, the southern clubs haven’t got much between them, except Sevilla 7 Europa leagues. The dominate domestic teams are from Madrid in the centre then further north, or north eastern.

[@BuckFC]

Yep, i think spain can also be a good one to look into as well. Would like to explore why some areas in spain arent more auccessful. Or for instance a club in madrid like vallecano isnt more successful. Thanks for the comment

[@alexanderbetke8503]

Another video, another banger 💥 nice work, buck

[@BuckFC]

Appreciate it! Youre actually a buck, apart of the football club baby

[@EdwardElfigo]

Pretty sure that the Allianz Stadium is the old Delle Alpi, the Comunale is the current Torino Stadium. Also, I believe a lot of it has to do with how much richer Lombardy and its surrounding regions are to everywhere else in Italy, a bit like London in England, you have teams like Monza, Milan, Inter, Atalanta and Como in Serie A, 1 region (there’s 20 of them) making up 20% of the entire league , with a similar story in Serie B (Brescia, Cremonese, Mantova…) despite the Serie C being almost designed to prevent that from happening ( a format made of 3 different Serie C group stages, that represent the north, center and southern regions respectively) . Also northern cities tend to attract more foreign investors, Monza are bankrolled by the Berlusconi Family, but aside from them, Atalanta sold a majority share to American investors, Como are owned by an Asian Billionaire, AC Milan and Inter are owned by Americans too etc..

[@BuckFC]

You are completely correct about the stadium thing. I made a mistake on that one. Following up. Thats really interesting. I didnt realize how much it ran into serie b, but playing football manager i do know serie c is three different regions which mitigates this whole thing… very interesting. Youd almost think there could be a way to regionalize the league and then combine it through cups idk.. your comment gave me an idea how to make it better but the idea is still in its infancy

[@JackieDunn-c6r]

Sounds like serie a is on the verge of a new era!

[@BuckFC]

We will see

[@gavincoleman1928]

Let’s go Napoli! Nice video again Buck

[@BuckFC]

Thank you! Napoli were lucky today!!

[@youngmarius5875]

Great video bro 💯

[@BuckFC]

Thank you for watching, i appreciate you

[@Ch1llzDoesStuff]

Another banger🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@BuckFC]

Thanks bro, ill be on like 1130 or 12 my time!

[@ryanevans2655]

Weirdly U.S. college football is dominated by the somewhat poorer southeast

[@BuckFC]

I wonder about that sometimes

[@ilsignorpierpaolo5164]

As an interista, even though it pains me to say that, you stripped Milan of 2 titles😅

[@BuckFC]

I think the list is used for the map of titles, didnt include any titles before 1929, except for inters.. mistake on my part. I should have just used every title instead of qualifying it after 1929thank you for watching

[@mirkrishna4212]

in portugal its only lisbon and porto doing well, in Belgium clubs from the north are the best, the only countries where distribution is even in the top 10 leagues is netherlands and germany.

[@BuckFC]

Yea youre right, i thhink its really interesting to explore so maybe ill look into portugal as well

[@mirkrishna4212]

@@BuckFC one reason is that lisbon is the richest part of portugal and also the biggest population center, while porto is the next biggest city and a big industrial hub in portugal, while lisbon is the big trade hub in portugal and for europe and also sustained on its wealth from centuries ago during colonial periods

[@syedmislam]

Napoli is an anomly. One title in 30 years doesn't cut it.

[@jjs7837]

Allianz is a brand new stadium

[@BuckFC]

Yea, i made a mistake on that, torino stayed at the comunale while juve built the allianz. Sorry for the mistake

[@ReaganKukundakwe]

Same case in Uganda

[@BuckFC]

This is didnt know.. i will have to look into it

[@brennacoleman2797]

interesting!

[@BuckFC]

Glad you think so!

[@andrewdepaolantonio6630]

Quick answer: Money

[@BuckFC]

Definitely helps clubs success

[@trakkadda]

Money.

[@BuckFC]

Yep

[@PorscheWilliamsformulaone2026]

0:47 But that will put tuscany in the south!!!

[@BuckFC]

Its meant to separate whats considered the north from all other clubs in italy

[@BuckFC]

Im fuming about it myself. I like fiorentina. More than i like any of the big 3

[@BuckFC]

In my research i found that everything above the emilia romagna region is the north. So i marked the line of the northern regions there

[@riccardob7774]

Buck is right. In Italy we conveniently divide the nation in three sector. The Northern sector ends in Emilia Romagna. Central sector ends with Lazio and Abruzzo. The rest is the Southern sector.

[@PorscheWilliamsformulaone2026]

@@riccardob7774are you insane i said remove the central sector and put the north south divide line below the Lazio and Abruzzo regions thats all im asking For!!!

[@antonellogiannuzzi6609]

The map at 0:11 isn't correct because even if you use only championships disputed after 1929 (and no one uses those) then inter wouldn't have 20 titles, as the first one was won in 1910. And the stadio comunale of Turin isn't the allianz stadium, it's the current Olimpico Grande Torino

[@BuckFC]

I appreciate that correction. Thats my mistake upon writing it must have glanced over the fact that juventus built a new stadium. The info i found for inter was 20 titles another oversight by me. 3 of their titles were pre 1929. I hope even with the mistakes you enjoyed the video. Thank you for watching

[@antonellogiannuzzi6609]

@BuckFC yes I appreciated the video. As a Southerner another thing I may add is the monopoly of the support by the "strisciate". Most of the people in the north support either inter, Milan or Juve. Most of the people in the center support either inter, Milan or Juve. Most of the people in the south support either inter, Milan or Juve. Only Napoli, the Roma club and maybe Fiorentina have a broader regional support while the other clubs tend to have a strong support in the city they represent but weak outside, with many having a big 3 as a main club and their local as a second. There isn't a big "support your local" culture like in England and you can see this in attendances. In Italy a stadium half full is normal below serie A while it's considered a disgrace in England

[@BuckFC]

Im glad you enjoyed. I had no clue about what you just told me. Local areas not supporting their local clubs. I have seen stadiums at half capacity pretty consistently but i had no idea that was the problem.. i visited venezia once and there were tons of juve fans there… now i see why. Thank you for that response

[@LiftandCoa]

money

[@BuckFC]

Yep

[@ShoeArmyNTFC]

0:10 i cant believe you did sampdorkia but not genoa... 9 titles

[@BuckFC]

Yeah, i made a mistake in the beginning by only doing clubs that won titles after 1929. Sorry about that. Might make a whole video on genoa for that sin i committed

[@ShoeArmyNTFC]

@@BuckFC im sorry i just fucking hate sampdoria

[@earl.c]

money, next

[@BuckFC]

Yep

[@JohnRome-xn7hx]

Money and corruption of the system especially by Juventus and Inter 👍

[@ThirdEye...]

Long story to describe…

[@BuckFC]

Yeah i was barely scratching the surface i think