Why Is This FFX Speedrun Over 19 Hours Long?

[@DoctorSwellman]

Some of the info is incomplete for the sake of keeping the video short. If you want to learn more about the any% run or more detailed strategies of the Nemesis run. Please check out the resources on the FFX speedrunning leaderboards and their discord. Thanks! FFX Leaderboard: www.speedrun.com/ffx FFX Speedrun Discord: discord.gg/X3qXHWG

[@thexenocide6013]

"ouhhh this is tragic" i have to commend him reacting like that to that marlboro ambush instead of punching a hole in his tv

[@The_Novu]

"Filled with side-quests that entertain the player for a long time." Entertain is a strong word. The chocobo racing made me want to arm wrestle a school bus with my face.

[@yukaiyami]

I’ve played FFX start to finish over 10 times. I’ve YET to even seriously attempt to beat that stupid Chocobo race with the sub 0.00 time needed for Tidus’ sigil. My patience with that Chocobo is non-existent.

[@janeenschultz8502]

I saw one of my brothers accomplish the race sub 0.00 ONCE. He said he'd never do it again and I don't think he ever has.

[@R33DPLAYS]

@@janeenschultz8502 you have to do it to get a celestial weapon and its actually pretty easy, it only took me a few attempts the first time i played it and after picking it up again recently it took 2 attempts

[@Reversinator]

how do you arm wrestle with your face

[@zeonsteel]

Lmao its not that hard guys. Git gud.

[@pigfish99]

I love that for the final boss, they're using the longest, flashiest overdrive to kill it in one hit, Blitz ace. it only has 99999 HP, so one regular max whack is all it needs, but nope, it needs to be STYLED on.

[@DoctorSwellman]

My favorite part is when they intentionally fail the quick time event to have Tidus fall on his face 😂

[@pigfish99]

@@DoctorSwellman to be fair, the timing on blitz ace is a lot more strict than the others. XD

[@SuperSayinSolidSnek]

​@@pigfish99Don't take our dreams from us you monster 😂

[@thebestthebestthebestthebe8828]

Slice and dice is better than blitz ace though?

[@johannhowitzer]

I never expected it to get this much love when I started the project back then, it was great to see Cereth and Maff pick up the torch! Cereth and I met at an RPG Limit Break event too. Thanks for the shoutout, and the massive nostalgia trip! In a crazy coincidence, I'm playing through FFX on stream just this week again, although this time it's not for speed. RBM alerted me to this video, thanks for putting this together! Something I would like to add regarding the character selection: Shinryu is a huge bottleneck since four characters are unable to participate. So among Tidus, Rikku, and Wakka, two had to be in the final party. That was a bigger consideration than Rikku's Mixes. And since Wakka's World Champion is awful to get, it had to be Tidus and Rikku.

[@StarfieldDisarray]

The 20 hour Malboro ambush is a rite of passage for any Nemesis runner. Everyone has it happen to them, and everyone has it happen when they neglect to save before Sin.

[@orangejjay]

I never finished FFX. I saved before Sin but saved over a single slot and my stats were never good enough to finish him. So, I could either replay the whole game or just give up ... I chose the latter. It's been so long since I played FFX that I don't remember anything from it and this second playthrough is something I'm looking forward to.

[@Hummeldon]

I’ll never forget that Marlboro ambush… Edit: Malboro, oops lol

[@IndexInvestingWithCole]

It's what got me back into FFX

[@baoff666z]

marlboro is a pr*ck pass it on

[@rtyuik7]

a Marlboro Ambush? thats what i called it when i started smoking cigarettes...

[@belstar1128]

Marlboro? wow this game is older than i thought (but seriously they did try to sponsor video games in the early 90s and 80s but i am sure they stopped in the ps2 years )

[@blainy-o93]

Yeah I remember when cigarettes ambushed me too

[@amimm7776]

That malboro ambush is such an SMT moment for a final fantasy game of all things

[@IosLocarth]

Certified Nocturne moment. Won't ever catch this in based SMT4

[@Lavenza]

Ahh nocturne memories

[@marcellosilva9286]

Playing FFX for the first time, the Seymour Flux fight gave me more trouble than ANY boss in Nocturne, and I even beat 4 of the Kalpas.

[@YoxxSHIxx]

😂 nocturn was so unforgiving

[@marcellosilva9286]

@@YoxxSHIxx No, it wasn't.

[@dukemagus]

A boon and a curse in ff10 speedruns are unskippable cutscenes. While they add HOURS to the final time, they give time for some much needed bathroom breaks or donation announcements in bigger events.

[@SimonPiano42]

There is a mod to skip them, at least on PC, which is also used in the speedrunning scene. But yeah, pros and cons. Might be nice to keep the cutscenes for events.

[@enoyna1001]

It surely helps to catch the game's atmosphere and story which both are great. But for any kind of challenge, it is a big curse.

[@KaiKrimson56]

How is it that Square can put cutscene skips in the Kingdom Hearts Collection but can't do it for FFX?

[@plasticbudgie]

Ive still got my memory card with FFX 100% completed good memories, i remember even writing down in a book all of rikkus mixes haha

[@tinticit]

I was there when Cereth lost the run to the ambush. That was heartbreaking live.

[@Milktube]

I don't understand it, it's listed as Nemesis % but he already has a time split for defeating Nemesis - the run is complete. Furthermore, why is he walking around inside Sin/inside the nucleus with **NO** protection from a Marlboro bad breath ambush - literally the most dangerous encounter in the entire area by a massive margin and the only thing worth protecting from ahead of time?

[@ivybennett2274]

​@@Milktubebecause the speed run is to beat nemesis AND the game and I imagine preparing for Marlboros takes time. It's very common in speedruns to essentially go "well we just have to pray that x doesn't happen or were fucked". Imagine if they prepared for a bad breath ambush and then didn't get ambushed? Wasted time

[@BadPrenup]

I appreciate the fact that the video for why a speedrun is over 19 hours long is just over 19 minutes long. Or at least, 19:01 when I clicked the video but exactly 19:00 when watching.

[@neesan888]

The algorithm recommended this video to me, posted "19 hours ago"

[@tripple-a6031]

Beating Nemesis in such a short time is absolutely wild in my eyes, don't know if I had Incredibly bad luck but capturing the monsters alone took me way over 20 hours, not to mention beating the game first and grinding the other stuff.

[@fistsunited6139]

Beat him in 15 seconds using zanmato

[@geoffreyokrongly916]

Because the game’s RNG has been mapped, the current records have manipulated encounters for capturing monsters. Everything is extremely deliberate, and efficient. The capturing was cut down by about 10 hours alone. So you aren’t crazy bad, you just don’t have the tools to cut the fat.

[@212mochaman]

Monster capturing is the crux of the run. There's always at least one enemy that's found in a super specific location. Speedrunners know the location, most people just randomly run around for hrs just to find 3 of em

[@zordiark9673]

@@212mochaman that would be me as ive platinumed the ps4 version. Capturing was the biggest time loss. (altough, the lightnings are awful enough)

[@Claudiustheimmortal]

11:20 I have mad respect just how chilled out he was. I would been raging big time if I was this many hours into a run.

[@ryanleatigaga7596]

I love the speedrunning genre because both 2 hours and 19 hours can be considered a speedrun.

[@TheBlueDsc]

The Twilight Princess speedrun where you leave Link staring at rupees for like 16 hours is still one of the most absurdly funny things I've ever heard.

[@nahuelkid]

Tbf some of these games have average playtimes between 20 and 100 hours, so depending the game 19 hours could be considered "fast", specially for 100% runs

[@josephmathes]

The world record for killing yourself in Noita is under a tenth of a second

[@Skwerzmernerpl]

Check out OSRS max cape any speed run times

[@justinarzola4584]

Many games run for at least 20 hours if you wanna explore everything hidden in a level, that's not even mentioning special content to play through besides the main game like dlc,extra modes, multiplayer etc, it's even more if you don't skip the extremely long cutscenes for more modern games.

[@RobMost]

Is this Yugioh Forbidden Memories background music? I was like: Why do I know this, and that's why, isn't it?

[@planescaped]

The real strongest entity in all of Final Fantasy is the monster arena owner in FFX. How does this guy keep these creatures 10x stronger than Sin locked up. lol

[@dar4061]

Amazing game, abysmal endgame. This was the start of the ultra grindy gameplay that creeped its way into the series..its not the fun grind the other games were.

[@TheNadroj10]

My take exactly, the fun gameplay nose dives off a cliff right when you reach the end post game.

[@sundalius]

I think for long runs like these, it's really interesting to think about the incentives to find big time cuts/execution improvements because it LITERALLY makes it less demanding physically to do. It's a self-incentivizing circle!

[@DolusVulpes]

The superbosses in FFX specifically are absurd timesinks for speedruns, so mad respect for anyone with the patience to speedrun for them

[@HYDRAdude]

Always love the FFX content, it brings back so many good memories.

[@BRSTaisen]

That Legend of Dragoon music just hits so different

[@ReturnoftheLightning]

It could be worse, it could be an all trophies/achievements speedrun 👀

[@TheAuron32]

yeah i think Satan made that list... same for FF13's Treasure Hunter one...

[@OmegaSaurus]

Have only ever played ff tactics advance and both crystal games from the DS, but damn, that Marlboro ambush, i FELT that

[@s4ad0wpi]

FFX Takes that long to speedrun because it's 2023, and we STILL CAN'T FUCKING SKIP THE CUTSCENES IN THIS GAME!!! COME ON, SQUARE!! I'VE PLAYED THE GAME 3 TIMES ALREADY, JUST LET ME SKIP THE CUTSCENES!!!

[@RiSK907]

Great video!! Omg that Legend of Dragoon music makes me so nostalgic 😭😭 just hearing it reminds me of when i was a little kid completely simultaneously lost and in love with it. To a little kid back then, it was so magical.

[@williambudrow9508]

Me, immediately bopping to dbz: legacy of goku 2 music 😂

[@fluffyflare578]

The Malboro ambush! I know his pain, those things were the most annoying damn monster in that entire game. Remember kids, already burn the evil plant before it grows

[@Sylphenar]

That tonberry strat was even in the original strategy book of the game. While I don't wanne downplay this guys achievement, he did not invent that strategy, at best he adopted it in his speedrun.

[@TallulahSoie]

I have that book and don't remember that being in it. Although, I only consulted it for info not strategy.

[@thedude7319]

02:03 what batman and every villain in this world has tought us is that this is the only superpower out there

[@martinperry1843]

I remember struggling with the later Dark Aeons like Dark Anima and hearing US players saying they could probably beat all the Dark Aeons, they were really strong and could beat anyone because they'd defeated Nemesis.

[@THECH33SYGUY]

americans are dumb. use to hear that too, especially during ps2 era. nemesis is hard, but the dark aeons take the cake.

[@higglybiggly1174]

I will never not laugh at the fact the monster hunter dude has MULTIPLE monsters that could one shot sin and he's just like.... Nah. Keep em locked away.

[@yaqbulyakkerbat4190]

Tbf then you'd have something tougher than sin on the loose

[@syntrexfpv1347]

I love that this is only a month old and has 230k views. This is the best game and makes me so happy to know there are still a lot of people coming back to it

[@TrippTh3Kidd]

I heard that Legend of Dragoon OST music in there you absolute man of culture. Have a thumbs up.

[@Justicetyga]

When you’ve completed everything in the game several times and then some and the only thing I couldn’t and have never done is the butterfly minigame

[@Sctn187]

Yeah as a kid i did everything except the battle arena stuff because i was playing by myself and was still pretty young. I did the lightening and chocobo stuff. I know i had everyones ultimate weapon, and the aeons. Its been so long since i played. Ive been meaning to platinum it. I just have so many games to play at one time. It's def on my back log.

[@navi2710]

Did a 100% playthrough at the start of the year. The worst part was redoing the sphere grid and farming fortune spheres for everyone. I decided to not use Yojimbo on any of the boss fights or any of the optinal dark aeons or the monster arena.

[@deadlywhisper1277]

Its incredible how I got into this game this year and in 2023 we still are getting people breaking records and videos like this. Ty so much for this

[@chrisbuitron5924]

I love when Legend of Dragoon music is used in backgrounds!

[@draculactica]

i really appreciate this channel for the games it chooses to focus on... i enjoy speedrunning content of all kinds, but this channel consistently covers runs for games i personally love and know very well- just makes it a little more enjoyable. great vid as always!

[@cs82271]

Started my first ever playthroughs of FF and wanted to Platinum every game. 1-6 were great and 7-9 were challenging, but not bad. In fact, they were amazing. 10 can rot in a pit...

[@cosmicalryu]

I'm at 170 hours played and still haven't finished 100% on the international version

[@goblinbutler1313]

Ya know, I did everything except Nemesis xD This is inspiring me to give it another shot :)

[@IndexInvestingWithCole]

I spent a week solid doing nothing but playing FFX and beat Penance. As someone who couldnt even beat the storyline as a kid, it was worth it.

[@Big.Joe.Grizzly]

Same tbh, I always just used to zanmato everything that was too difficult. I'm definitely going to try and beat it properly some time you've given me motivation

[@Celticers]

do it, you won't.

[@Bourikii2992]

It's funny seeing some of these strategies I used just to play the game normally. Like the overdrive to Ap. Trick.

[@ericgrimes341]

Nothing like getting 99 Sphere levels.

[@Lateksis]

Great video, but I flinch every time you try to pronounce Zanmato :D

[@WilliamWizer]

playing non-stop for over a day? not even I'm that crazy.

[@Spotastic9]

I love the casual "armed with his main character named Butts" at 13:20.

[@anonymus9391]

the real enemy of the game: chocobo's race

[@brofenix]

Awesome video and overview :) I suggest holding out the music at the end and playing some gameplay footage while fading out as a better ending. The hard cut was pretty jarring imo, but otherwise awesome video.

[@jeffwhite1334]

When I played the remaster I remembered how annoying it was to go back and capture all the monsters so I just played the entire game with the beast weapons instead, and surprisingly the game was still super easy.

[@0WaZen0]

That Legend of Dragoon OST in the background though

[@Hayssss]

i never speed run a game before. how ever when i was young and ffx-2 was the newest game i got it down to where i could start a new save when i got up and beat the game by 10pm that night. i miss being young, samurai job OP yo

[@SongokuJidai]

I remember first discovering speedrun in the 2009 gamers Guinness world record books and seeing that you could beat Zelda Minish Cap in 3 hours blew my mind. Years later I actually saw a faster run for the first time and it totally made sense. There was a warp glitch I'd have never considered trying and all the optional gear was skipped. I've beaten that game so many times and still learned new tricks.

[@TotallyCluelessGamer]

I'm trying to focus on the explanation but the Indels Castle theme in the background demands all of my attention.

[@Argick]

Long runs like this are always impressive. RPG speedruns are a whole other beast to tackle. Great video!

[@Xem92]

Ok fine I'll stay hydrated but only because you suggested it so nicely

[@MegaMasterX]

> vid about a 19 hour speedrun > video length is 19 minutes I see what you did there! Another amazing video, good stuff Doc!

[@BryanH.-me9db]

The chocobo games in the Calm Lands for Tidus and the Lightning dodges in the Thunder Plains for Lulu. It pains me to remember the challenge. It is my legendary 200 hour save where I xompleted every ultimate weapons and completed the sphere grid with everyone, I erased and reprogramed every sphere to stat max every character. I may not have achieved much with my life, but there is this.

[@akinako4064]

I just live speedrun history!! Thanks for doing your videos! This one isn't the first time I visit you channel

[@Z3ON_Z3NITH]

19-hour speedrun 19-minute video coincidence I think NOT!

[@FallFromGrace65]

Great video Also me getting distracted with the Legend of Dragoon OST in the background

[@jsmooth8655]

The Legend of dragoon track @ 5:54 😘👌🏾

[@Kanonishify]

Love the LOD music you used for this video

[@donny7846]

Nice history, made even better by adding music from my other favorite RPG, Legend of Dragoon!

[@Ubernewb111]

yeaaaah I remember when I first played ffx I was in a tedious dungeon and I got ambushed by a Marlboro and bb killed me. turns out I hadn't saved in a while

[@michaelwood3922]

it feels weird watching a ffx video with a legend of dragoon soundtrack, but i dig it

[@zidaryn]

Loving that Legend of Dragoon music.

[@gastonbenito5527]

Great storytelling for an awesome speedrun thanks for sharing!

[@EsotericTrash]

Man I miss Maff streams. They were so cozy.

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

I alway's forget to farm the sin in the beginning to get max level.

[@Namadu7]

I was not expecting .hack music! Very good choice. I need to listen to that soundtrack again. Also, very enjoyable video! :3

[@Siinory]

Oh hey I see my name in the Patreons! Glad to support ya!

[@paulmiller996]

Do people really give this Johan guy credit for inventing the triple overdrive and stoic mechanic to max out your party quickly? Seemed like that was pretty common knowledge back in 2001 myself and everyone I knew did that trick except it was against the Cactuar's 100,000 needles instead of the tonberry.

[@pk5727]

No I didn’t know yiu could use yojimbo on the bosses. Usually those kind of special abilities are always in effective on bosses…..so I’ve just stopped trying them.

[@keiyousu7454]

Bosses have a high resistance to Zanmato so you do need good rng for it to be successful. A few years ago, it was a goal of mine to get Zanmato *on entry* against any of the bosses. Those unsuccessful hours are now lost to time lol

[@enoyna1001]

​@@keiyousu7454you did this for mankind

[@fredasd7017]

the answer is just anima boom boom or wakka boom boom with tidus boom boom

[@maybeperhaps2788]

I remember watching my cousin playing ffx during our holiday when i was small, and we really like yojimbo because we think he is funny(ready to battle? how much?). I remember him explaining zamato's mechanic of Motivation but i didnt get that Motivation is the name of the variable, and though yojimbo wont 1hit everyone because we didnt give him enough money so he is not motivated enough lmao

[@kovulion7777]

Malboro out there about to just bad breath this speedrunners away in the last dungeon XD

[@Vernafveik]

Weekend arrives Wake up Hop on FFX Session done Weekend over.

[@TheNadroj10]

Accurate lol

[@triumphoverdeath]

We all been rocked by a marlboro before hahahaha, that really was tragic

[@zufieusagi7509]

Didn't realize the speed runs of FF10 were so long till I saw this video. Makes me wonder if I would have made it into any of the speed run categories back in the day since I had reached the end credits in one sitting. Do I remember exactly how long I was playing, no but I know it was somewhere close to 48 hours. I know I passed out shortly after the credits started. For the record this was back during the first year of the US release of the PS2 version.

[@AB-ee5tb]

God damn. It took me like 3 years to beat ffx. Tbh I was a pretty dumb kid 😂

[@zufieusagi7509]

@@AB-ee5tb I was basically dead to the world for nearly a full day after that. I would not recommend anyone do what I did.

[@tw-nc3lx]

I remember being able to double the holy spell twice, two characters with holy and double cast, and then do copy cat with the cat dude to make it 5 casts of holy in a single turn. Nothing can withstand that turn after turn.

[@justlea6179]

19 minutes, 19 hours. I see the theme here…

[@RuneTrips]

Hit me with the yugioh forbidden memories music at 5:22. Cant be ambushing me with nostalgia like that

[@DoctorSwellman]

Sorry homie, let me just hit you with the Spyro ost instead

[@gepardzhongli]

Man, PS2 era was really the peak. FFX and FFXII had grinds that were so excruciatingly painful. And I loved every second of it. Stat Maxing in FF10. Hunting for Danjuro to get every copy of weapon, shield, and armo in the game. Those we're good times.

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

The entirely biggest problem with final fantasy 10 is one single issue when it comes to speed running and that's you can't skip the fucking cutscenes and I don't know why they did that Even in the remaster. Such a stupid idea

[@lachlank.8270]

Hidden loading screens

[@SpaceCowboy-D]

00:09 - Lies, it was the lightning one.

[@zwingler]

Impressive video length and title synergy.

[@chkukun27]

The malboro ambush traumatized me, i spent so much time grinding on that dungeon where you can encounter it, then i was going out to save my progress then ... that stoopid malboro foks me, sigh

[@elijahjamez452]

Love that one track from dot hack u used

[@williamphillipsthethird]

I was gonna give a 'like' at some point, but it was expedited when I heard LoD music. Also subscribed. Great video!

[@acetheplace7197]

that legend of dragon music @5:45

[@permeus2nd]

12:00 and that mob is why I have at least one character with confusion immunity but preferably just the ribbon ability.

[@duraeusentenu]

I remember playing this game back when it was still kinda new, back when the PS2 was still the only gen at the time. I still have my original day 1 copy of the game :) Anyway, I remember figuring out how to beat Nemesis back then on my own. Ironically, the method of using characters with max strength and agility stats, all with Break Damage and Break HP Limit and Break MP Limit and Auto-Haste abilities, plus everyone having Quick Hit and Auto-Life, to beat Nemesis easily within a few dozen turns and he barely does anything to you? I figured that out entirely on my own! XD I just had this thought about landing hit after hit on him before he could attack, and since it didn't matter what attack he used on you because they would all instnat kill charactesr, I realized what I had to focus on. I wasn't even trying to cheese the game or speedrun or anything! I just figured it out!

[@netorosa4539]

Amazing video as always, and i miss your videos Doc, and the long videos lmao but i appreciate the great work

[@chazclark86]

Monster Arena is the goat. Hyper Training lol. Not much of a speed runner myself but yeah can see the challenge for sure. Had Nemesis under 5 mins on a loop, good times lol.

[@TheRealmDrifter]

2:40 *"Where's your motivation?"* 👁👄👁

[@ThatOneLegendEmerald]

Everytime I hear Tidus's name mispronounced, I die inside IT'S TEEDUS. THEY SAY IT IN THE DISSIDIA GAMES.

[@Ramsey276one]

Localization XD

[@enoyna1001]

And in KH.

[@Nudhul]

no

[@kaiderhai86]

I 100% this game in my teenager years. Around 700 hours. No way in hell i would do anything this grindy nowadays 😅

[@wonopete]

Just wanna say thanks for using the legend of dragoon bgm in 6:30 ish, brings back memories

[@Furetchen]

The FFX postgame is so ridiculous. I remember getting to the last dungeon and deciding to go back and traverse Spira one last time. Re-enter Besaid, get jumped by something roughly ten times stronger than the final boss that murders the entire party for 9999. Alright, avoid Besaid, go down Mushroom Rock... get jumped by the Dark Magi Sisters, entire party murdered for 99,999 instantly. Really, X's postgame was X-2.

[@KopperNeoman]

The original NTSC version didn't even have that postgame.

[@enoyna1001]

Classic Dark Aeons moment

[@Zenaltra]

Never realized they actually nerfed Quick Hit, but I do recall it not feeling as effective in HD Remaster. Good to know

[@sovegaard]

The chocobo race was always funny because everyone would go on and on and on about how hard it was, but I beat it on my 2nd attempt; even my friend said it took him all night to do it, and I've never had that experience.