Why Isn't USB Wireless?

[@suhaybahmed3813]

Bruh techquickie's literally answering every single question that I have while I'm showering

[@thatsdaniellelol]

Lol brooo me toooo!!!

[@naga_serpentis]

@luci It's like your brain could end WW3 by random thoughts lol

[@macle5007]

U have been showing for to long

[@shadowofnyx1031]

Thats how they get their ideas xD

[@treescompany3462]

I'm more interested in why you asked why USB isn't wireless when everything it'd be useful for is handled by wifi nowadays anyways (I guess as one of the main points of the video)

[@sturdybutter]

I love that Linus still throws shade at KZbin for removing the dislike button whenever the opportunity presents itself.

[@Josiuh]

i interpreted his comment as a sarcastic jab at people who would want to click the dislike button .. "do it, i dare ya, but your voice wouldn't matter as no one will see the dislike"

[@lunakoala5053]

"still" it's been 2 months. That's not really that long ago. But maybe that's just me getting old.

[@sturdybutter]

@@lunakoala5053 nah it wasn’t long ago at all but he brings it up all the time which I think is hilarious

[@kingofnara]

i have dislikes on my youtube, chrome addon

[@Thomasjcolbert82]

Am I missing something? I have a dislike button option.

[@tOSdude]

I remember seeing that wireless USB was technically available as an internal card for the ThinkPad x200, but nobody actually bought it. So there's just an extra mini PCIe slot in the computer that can be used for... something. I put an NVME drive in mine with an adapter.

[@robindobbermann]

Do you have a link to the adapter?

[@tOSdude]

@@robindobbermann I don’t think I can post a link without spam filters throwing the book at me, but just make sure to look for an “m key” m.2 adapter and you should be fine.

[@yatharthshah]

Techquickie is legit one of those sources of information that doesn't seem like it's spamming you with the same stuff everyone else is also doing.

[@stellviahohenheim]

5 minute video and they still managed to squeeze in a sponsor in there lol

[@clashwithkeen]

@@stellviahohenheim 4 min 20 second video, 32 second ad read lmao

[@skumfidus08]

I remember my old ThinkPad T510 running Windows XP had Wireless USB, WiMAX, 5 Ghz and WWAN built-in. I loved the connectivity of that machine!

[@tanmay______]

i miss the old thinkpads

[@formbi]

hmm, I have a W520, maybe it does have those things too…

[@johnfritz1164]

Same here. The Thinkpad T61p I bought in 2007 had Wireless USB but I never ran across any devices that I could use with it.

[@parkerlreed]

Was that on an expresscard card? I have the T510 with XP and definitely don't see any wireless USB options.

[@inertia_dagger]

oh yeah, wimax, haven't heard that name in a while. what happened to it anyway?

[@Zdman2001]

It definitely would have been nice to have to support small peripherals like a wireless mouse/keyboard/headphones. Bluetooth has to much latency for some of those things so a wireless option would have been nice. Instead, I have several wireless dongles sticking out of my computer. For a wireless mouse for a laptop, you have to keep up with the dongle and if you lose the dongle, you have to get a new mouse. Definitely inconvenient.

[@StolenJoker84]

Regarding having to replace the mouse if you loose the dongle, I think this is one of the issues that Logitech set out to solve with their “Unifying” receiver. One receiver for multiple (Logitech) devices, and you can replace just the dongle if needed.

[@MrHSX]

Not to mention you can't use the mic on the headset without it switching to the dogshit handfree mode

[@guillaumejoop6437]

@@StolenJoker84 yeah but you have to get Logitech for the rest of your life. Every manufacturer have their "unified" solution as long as you plead allegiance to them

[@Zdman2001]

@@MrHSX oh yeah. That sucks so much.

[@talibong9518]

We need some sort of clever cross compatibility between BT, USB and HDMI. Imagine having all your devices connected to a dongle that you can plug in to any machine and have it work as a USB hub, or have everything connected to your TV and have it all work seamlessly simply by changing input.

[@idontusenumbers]

I used Wireless USB for a printer using a Wireless USB hub from IO Gear. The hardware was fine but the software/driver was another story. It seemed there was only ever one company that made the software; I don't think there was ever any first-party support, and they never updated it to work past Windows XP.

[@trandinhvietdung9357]

Does it support Windows XP x64?

[@idontusenumbers]

@@trandinhvietdung9357 I don't recall; I remember running it in a VM for a while but eventually got a network connected printer and never looked back.

[@randomdude7386]

I feel like Apple was betting someone would make wireless USB Dongles so they dont need ports

[@gilbag]

Stop talking ‘bout my dongle, dood.

[@gavinvales8928]

They could have made it themselves

[@4.0.4]

Or copy it and say they invented it.

[@tylerwashington9062]

@@4.0.4 apple would never do that, would they?

[@Ghrostillo]

Why can’t apple just leave the ports…. WE NEED THEM

[@BaxTechYT]

I would love to see a future where I don't need a separate USB dongle for my headset, mouse, and keyboard just because they're different brands. Wireless USB would be clutch there(being that they're used for gaming so I will not use BT)

[@JimmyCerra]

Most of those dongles are based on either BT or hardware similar to BT with a proprietary protocol. You just can't access the hardware via software, but under the hood that's how they generally work.

[@DavidKen878]

Bro it's 2022. Just buy Bluetooth versions of those devices.

[@Android25K]

@@DavidKen878 bluetooth version generally needs a dongle anyway

[@cjkellner]

I would have very little hope of wireless USB being any different from bluetooth. It would have had higher speeds, but I'm not sure that would save it from all the trouble I have with bluetooth.

[@Argameus]

@@DavidKen878 Bluetooth is just the worst.

[@MrHSX]

This would be perfect for small peripheral devices like headsets, keyboards and controllers which tend to exist very close to each other And if there is any interference in any of these it is very noticeable

[@matsv201]

Have you tryed BT?

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

@@matsv201 problem is unless that particular Bluetooth is aptx low latency, and it's multipoint, is it practical???

[@trandinhvietdung9357]

Report the spam comment pls

[@1pcfred]

@@trandinhvietdung9357 OK you've been reported.

[@trandinhvietdung9357]

@@1pcfred I mean the Whatsapp spam comment. Linus forget to delete that

[@ForwardBias]

Well... What would be the power draw of a wireless storage drive though? I wouldn't trust my wireless storage being battery operated because it wouldn't last very long imo. And if you are plugging it into the wall you might as well just plug it into your PC with a wired data connection.

[@StolenJoker84]

It could be interesting to have something like a MyBook sitting on a shelf somewhere, and be able to access it without needing it to be connected to a router or other such device.

[@joethenerd2427]

@@StolenJoker84 what’s the point of wireless in this case if it’s not portable?

[@SCRPXXL]

@@joethenerd2427 no cable management hassle and thats it, basically useless but could be great for headphones whete Bluetooth latency is an issue.

[@StolenJoker84]

@@joethenerd2427 The same reason I have a HDD on my network. Not having to have it physically connected to my computer, which helps keep my desktop space cleared, and allows me to access it anywhere in my home that I want to, from any computer I want to.

[@championxxlNL]

Isn't this just a nas? It really convenient and nice to use, but yeah it's better over wifi for greater range and connection to the internet meaning if setuo right you can connect to it from anywhere in the world

[@5urg3x]

Security would definitely also be a problem, especially since USB drivers are running in kernel mode.

[@logicbug]

They could simply add password protection.

[@5urg3x]

@@logicbug You mean like Bluetooth with its pin pairing protocol? Look at how well that works (or doesn’t…), lol.

[@judenihal]

Security is not necessary because the range is as far as your room. Also you can always lock it down to see only the ones you want them to see.

[@EmiWi]

@@judenihal The problem lies in the fact that any extra potential security risk is a problem with people who don't know how to properly utilise technology.

[@engineer4769]

@@judenihal well if they're in public that is a major security issue. you could be using your laptop at a coffee shop and someone could connect a device wirelessly to yours. some people would be computer literate enough to prevent such a thing but not everyone

[@fentonwinmill]

What I would love is shared USB. I have two computers that I use one at a time, but loads of USB peripherals that I'd like to share or switch between the two. Things like Audio interfaces, printers, etc

[@zymunt]

you are thinking of KVM, this technology exists as usb hubs and sometimes monitors have one built in.

[@Riven55555]

yeah look up kvm switches. even a cheap one goes for 40 bucks on amazon and can passthrough video, audio, and usb.

[@loop5720]

@@zymunt Yeah, I love KVM, so many possibilities with it.

[@MrPir84free]

My 5 year old NAS has a function that has an app called VirtualHere. Apparently can function on a number of brands of NAS, plus Raspberry PI. Perpetual license is apparently $49. Not sure how well it works or not. IF I was using a KVM, I'd likely tack a USB hub off the KVM

[@xtremefps_]

@@zymunt would be easier if it just did wireless USB imo

[@ifohancroft]

Now would be the perfect time for Wireless USB to come back. We use 2.4GHz wireless for wireless high-end gaming input devices, as opposed to Bluetooth, but it's all proprietary - Logitech Lightspeed, Razer Hyperspeed, etc. There isn't an open protocol/standard.

[@guillaumejoop6437]

too late, they wouldn't adopt it cause locking someone in your ecosystem is much more lucrative

[@matsv201]

BT have a low latency mode, that should solve the problem.

[@vgamesx1]

@@matsv201 lower latency doesn't mean higher bandwidth, that's exactly why you get compressed audio over BT.

[@matsv201]

@@vgamesx1 BT 2.0 (from 2005) have a bandwidth of 3Mbit... cd quality audio used 1.4 Mbit

[@vgamesx1]

@@matsv201 You do know 3Mb is 375KB right? It's kinda enough for audio, although audio was generally higher compressed in those days than it is today, not to mention all the other problems you're glossing over, like wireless standards NEVER reaching anywhere near their rated speed (often even wired standards barely reach what their rated for) or having to share that bandwidth with other things, such as two earbuds plus they often have a microphone, so that could easily up to quadruple bandwidth use there alone and not always the case but even over very short distances such as from your head to pocket can cause issues with data integrity/packet loss (personally experienced this a few times) or interference from other nearby devices or even simply the controller sucking and the device will never operate at even half those rated speeds... There are a lot of things to consider that will degrade those rated speeds right down to nothing, and you can easily notice that difference whenever you're comparing some cheap wired vs wireless buds.

[@STICKOMEDIA]

0:07 I need a USB Missle Launcher lmao

[@ClappOnUpp]

Techquickie is the best LMG channel hands down. Change my mind

[@yakine13]

There's an obviously amazing application to wireless USB: Making every USB device wireless. Mousse, keyboard, gamepad, camera controls rig etc etc .. I really want to work on that...

[@shabadabba]

You can get wireless versions of those already

[@ChrisRussell99]

@@shabadabba yeah, but imagine those same devices without a dongle or poorly thought out wireless standards or solutions, while utilizing the USB specification as a useful baseline.

[@frykauf]

"The world if Wireless USB was reality" :D I still couldn't believe that it was scrapped when I learned about it. With how badly BT, and WiFi peripherals work with PCs - Wireless USB, that would just use existing USB protocols would be the literal dream.

[@rpraetor]

So... in order to solve all the problems with current wireless technology, you want to add a new wireless standard? It sounds like you just want to add a problem.

[@justjosh11]

Why do you think BT and WiFi peripherals work badly with PCs? Don't you think any other wireless standard would suffer the same issues? Wireless protocols are complex things

[@arrowghost]

Like everything wireless, you still need power to run, like batteries

[@rinrin4711]

A lot of things have power and data signals separate, like printers, speakers, monitors, etc. So their internal recievers could be power from the device itself.

[@abdulmasaiev9024]

I like how the first response is from a spambot and it looks like that spambot is giving you the most sarcastic "no shit sherlock"

[@firelaf1284]

I really want it to come back. Bluetooth absolutely sucks with the pairing and latency. It would be amazing for small peripherals (Mice, keyboards, headphones, microphones) many of which want to use Bluetooth already.

[@retrodevdroid3670]

I think making some kind of a wireless USB-Hub or something like that would still be a good idea. Since I have my Computer connected to the Television and I'm gaming from my couch, I can think of multiple devices, that I can't just use as I would like to, because they are wired.

[@jiran1540]

4:47 actually i know how many people used the other button

[@savagepro9060]

Linus: Why Isn't USB Wireless? Everyone: Because it HAS a cord?

[@christianweber4392]

I just looked this question up to make a controller wireless

[@christianweber4392]

The timing

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

Same

[@P1X0L4T3D]

2:10 you can hear someone's phone getting a notification, lol

[@XSpImmaLion]

All I see when I hear about USB standards are missed opportunities... it's an incredible feat of standardization wasted on bad nomenclature, lack of transparency towards costumers, and some baffling decisions I just cannot. Guess it's the problem with leaving too much into the implementers side of things, and how badly informed consumers are about it. We end up in a situation where a whole ton of tech gets limited by the lowest common denominator when it comes to adoption of parts of the specification. Then again, not specific to USB. Seems all standards in computers and electronics falls in some grey area like that.

[@walkinmn]

Seriously, USB started as a revolutionary standard and I mean, it still is, but they did so many stupid things with the nomenclature and you know, standardization till we reached this point where you can get a cable with the famous USB-C connection and have no idea if it will work for what you need until you read the actual spec-sheet of the cable

[@MartinFinnerup]

That is more of a property of backwards compatibility. Wanting to keep everything compatible, means you have to conform to the lowest common denominator, even if you can selectively use newer features as supported. Just look at Windows. Their doctrine of making everything compatible (up until Win11) means that there is a ton of bloat slowing everything down. This is however necessary, as you can't expect everything to always have the latest capabilities, especially when it comes to hardware.

[@AgneDei]

One more important point I'd raise is that USB, with most USB devices is used to POWER them. That ain't gonna happen over radio.

[@diegoaugusto1561]

The data transfer speeds would be HORRIBLE

[@rhythm449]

THANKS FOR ALL THE YEARS OF INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED ..I HAVE PROGRAMMED AND BUILT OVER 500 COMPUTERS ..FROM YOUR KNOWLEDGE ..I LEARNED 80%..FROM YOU,,SINCE YOU WERE A TEEN...THANKZ FROM ALL US US ...NYC

[@eterevsky]

I would gladly welcome wireless USB as a replacement to Bluetooth. Bluetooth is unreliable and has high latency. A better point-to-point protocol could've made things like wireless headphones and mice so much more usable.

[@stephensnell5707]

You prune,wired headphones are way better,more durable and longer lasting and never need to be recharged Wireless would be simply too slow Wired USB keyboards and wired will never be outdone by wireless ones Bluetooth is perfect with hardly any latency and is nice and quick too

[@ruffruff5084]

im lost to that fairly low frequency thing 1:46

[@EvanOfTheDarkness]

Bluetooth *was* wireless UBS for all intents and purposes. It uses USB device classes and UBS messages. In theory anything you can connect on USB, could also be connected via Bluetooth, if it had a radio.

[@Rbillionn]

That default samsung notification tone @ 2:15 makes my head hurt

[@deeplaysgaming4754]

every time linus makes a video it makes me ask more questions, like is it possible to hear a wifi signal? and how low is the frequency that penetrates walls, is it the same low frequencys animals use they use infrasound?

[@VitalVampyr]

Sound is pressure waves. Wifi is electromagnetic waves, so hearing it would be impossible. If you meant "could I hear a Wifi signal if it were converted to sound?" then that would also be "no". Humans can hear frequencies up to about 20 kHz. Consumer Wifi broadcasts around 2.4 GHz and the lowest (rarely used) Wifi channels are still over 700 MHz. Infrasound has frequencies less than 20 Hz.

[@Blooest]

The human ear caps out at ~20kHz. Quite a long ways off of 2.4-5 GHz. Not even to mention that wifi is a radio wave and not a sound wave. You still can't hear VLF radio transmissions.

[@deeplaysgaming4754]

@@VitalVampyr yes thats what i meant if ot was converted into sound linus said it penetrates walls better at lower frequencies which reminded me of a dinosaur documentary where it was theorised some used their horns to make sounds that can be heard through the ground it got me thinkin but obviously thats actual sound waves.

[@deeplaysgaming4754]

@@Blooest now u got me wondering why processors clockspeeds and wifi frequencies are measured in ghz we'll be here all day!

[@Blooest]

@@deeplaysgaming4754 Hertz is a measure of frequency. Anything that has a cycle can be measured in hertz. Even your heart rate. 60 BPM is technically 1 Hz.

[@MonkingFlame]

I recently had the fortune of taking apart a $300 Laptop to replace the WiFi card. I found out that there was not only the space and molding in the case for a 2,5" harddrive but also that there was room on the PCB spared for another USB-Port. Like there was the hole and the traces. Just no hole in the chassie and therefore also no port. But one could just drill the hole and sorter the port on to that motherboard. Impressive where corners get cut.

[@winconfig]

Wireless USB would essentially be dank fast Bluetooth.

[@berkesinanyetkin5722]

And probably less annoying

[@stephensnell5707]

Wireless IS ACTUALLY 4,000 TIMES SLOWER THAN WIRED DEVICES

[@winconfig]

@@stephensnell5707 I never claimed that wireless USB would be faster than wired connections. Pay attention to the conversation.

[@SamiKankaristo]

There is software out there for accessing USB devices over ethernet (including Wi-Fi), so that they appear on your computer like they were plugged in locally. Very useful, but there's a bit of additional latency.

[@kristopherleslie8343]

Yup I use it for virtualization, unfortunately nothing to write home about 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@SkinHeadBaby]

yea prefer wired peripherals i dont like dealing with batteries

[@sogerc1]

Isn't that the truth! Soon even the toilet will discharge at an inopportune time and I won't be able to take a dump whenever I want to.

[@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648]

Another consideration, please permit me to observe, is that wired USB frequently was also used to power whatever peripheral was attached, rather than requiring the peripheral to have batteries or be energized via its own wired power supply. To make the USB sans power vitiates many of the usual USB use cases. It might still be nice to have an explicitly donglefied way of doing it, where it is acceptable to have one dongle of a pair (or perhaps, peripheral dongles to a hub) to contain a power supply, and the dongles having a reasonably secure way of identifying one another, but I've never actually seen it. Wireless printers with WiFi or even Bluetooth can be a pain in themselves due to other built in identification protocol requirements, whereas a USB wireless dongle system might be able to made to work simply by setting up a security code with switches or a built in TV-remote-style keypad on each side.

[@MSchicht]

The mentioned 3.1 to 10.6 GHz aren't "fairly low frequencys". Compared to Wi-Fi (2.4/5 GHz) or Bluetooth (2.4 GHz) f. ex. they are way higher and should be absorbed by walls and obstacles even more. 🤔😅

[@weberman173]

he didnt say it is "failry low compared to wifi" he said "fairly low, kinda like wifi" Wifi is an example here, not an comparison.... Yes it has a higher frequency, but that wasnt the point he was making

[@MSchicht]

@@weberman173 so if he says it's "fairly low" he's clearly comparing to something. I mean the hole video is one big comparison to WiFi and bluetooth. 🤣 And even compared to all frequency standards it's rather high. HomeMatic f.ex. uses 868MHz. THAT'S rather low. So I've no idea what's your point here 😅🙈

[@RandomKSandom]

I didn't know wireless USB even existed. I'm having trouble figuring out what it was particularly good at. And I guess that that's part of the problem that you outlined. Thanks for sharing.

[@Zayka007]

How about power? I will have to put batteries in every USB device, which is not very useful.

[@Jalmaan]

I wouldn't mind having some wireless usb hubs. Connect my gear to it. Make the latency as low as you would get it on something like the gaming mice and keyboards from razer, corsair, logitech, steelseries, etc. Would make cable management so much easier. Then you would only have to connect the hub to a wallplug. Or even better, maybe make it able to work on a wireless charger built in your desk so the cables are hidden even more. Sounds like cable management galore to me.

[@Tisisrealnow]

Isnt that just... bluetooth?

[@astralyd]

I'm a music producer, I have a lot of external hardware like a midi keyboard, a streamdeck, an audio interface that connects to wired headphones, an external drive, a mouse, a launchpad, a DJ controller and it's such a pain to deal with all these dongles and cables, I would absolutely love to find a solution to make it all wireless and basically allow me to take my setup away from home without the fear of forgetting a câble or something..

[@stephensnell5707]

Remember having physically connected cables will always be much faster

[@D1EHARDTOO]

I just had a conversation with my mom about how her new Webcam for work "should be wireless", even though it's 4k over lightning usb-c lol

[@Perseagatuna]

Wireless USB already exists, it's called BLUETOOTH

[@Request_2_PANic]

If there isn't any destructive interference, even 2.0 equivalent speeds could still work for mouse, keyboard, headphones, among others alongside the other standards. Short distance items could use wireless USB, perhaps with wireless charging from the desk they're on when in use, while connecting to the internet could use Wi-fi, for example, as long as backward compatibility continues to be supported.

[@Psychx_]

More interesting question: Why has nobody tried to abuse a USB to SD-Express bridge and connect a GPU to it?

[@visheshjawa1408]

becasue its either not fast enough or there's alot of bottlenecking

[@Psychx_]

@@visheshjawa1408 It's not about speed, I just want to know if it would work at all as this hasn't been tried yet. Console hackers connected PCIe through an FPGA and a SBC's GPIO pins in order to reverse engineer the communication between the CPU and the chipset. It actually worked, because PCIe is very, very latency tolerant.

[@FastSloth87]

You mean like those mining motherboards? (Asus H370 Mining Master)

[@Psychx_]

@@FastSloth87 These aren't USB to PCIE bridges, they just the physical USB connector. What I'm talking about is the chips that were introduced for SD-Express card readers - they can convert USB to PCIe electrically.

[@cooperzwitdaskimask3979]

you can do most with bluetooth EG peripherals, TVs/Monitors or storage. but certain things need power from them.

[@gerardonavarro3400]

Because you know, it's a physical connector...

[@Doviruses.existbaileyonodysee]

Why don't gaming mouse receivers come out in type-c?

[@Aelfraed26]

"Of course, wireless communication is nearly always slower than a wired equivalent. Just compare your home Wi-Fi to a PC connected via ethernet, if you don't believe me" Now that's a first world problem if I ever heard one. I have a 150Mbps USB WiFi USB adapter and a 6Mbps internet connection. It's not even close to saturating the WiFi signal.

[@interrobangings]

or, y'know, for content creators or other people who need their computers for work

[@johnsimun6533]

What first popped in my head was. Years ago, I had a wireless usb, flash/thumb drive. It was from sandisk. I was thinking, oh, but didn’t that transfer via wifi.

[@SYSzero1]

Would be nice a LMG Chanel dedicated to tech projects with very low end hardware, donated/ recycled, example old HDDs, old Optiplex 790s, etc.

[@salaciouscreations4323]

I need this in my life. I remeber when WiFi was 12mbit it was great with a tube of pringles I could check an email at the bottom of the garden. These days I just have a series of old routers dotted about the place as AP so I can get WiFi all the way to the car.

[@yuyuy666]

3:59 cost money and makes the stealing of the secret formulerr more easy

[@dansanger5340]

Back in the day, I briefly worked on my company's wireless USB initiative, attended a couple meetings, and then it was cancelled.

[@NicosM51]

There should be a very short range (i mean NFC like range) for very high speed wireless data transfer. The short range would mitigate most of the security risks associated with a wireless USB like protocol and the high speed would mean we could get rid of many usb ports making many appliances cheaper and more reliable.

[@reappermen]

Except that a high-bandwith wireless circuit is inherently more complex (and thereby expensive) than a simple wired port. Though depending on how high bandwith you want it would end up very short ranged anyways, as you'd need higher frequencies which are also inherently shorter ranged beofre they get distored to much. Also roughly speaking wired transfer on any given technology standard has both cost and bandwith increase linearly by sticking more wires together, while wireless has more or less exponential cost increase with linear bandwith increase.

[@sofa-lofa4241]

I have a USB device called a 'Leyio' it came out around 2008 and it uses UWB (Ultra Wide Band) antennas, When you pair 2 together you can transfer data faster than USB 2.0, the range was limited to about 6 inches, The 6 inch range and the fingerprint reader on it gives some kind of security, These came out about the same time UK government workers were regularly leaving unencrypted USB sticks on trains, taxis, etc. They could have done with a few of these!

[@ErikLachance]

Is there a easy way to build your personal cloud service. Like to auto sync your phone photo to your personal hdd for free ? Back in the day i use plex feature to do that but now its gone.

[@iatwiatw]

Many budget motherboards don't have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth built-in. As others have pointed out, Bluetooth is not really ideal for peripherals that will most likely stay in one place and don't need to pair and unpair often, if at all, such as keyboards, mice, headsets, mics, etc. Speaking of pairing and unpairing, that still straight up doesn't work sometimes, and the pairing sequence is clunky for devices that don't have physical keyboards, such as car stereos. I've had Bluetooth devices from both cheap and premium brands that just crap out even at short distances, from budget keyboards to my Bose QC35 headphones. So there definitely is a use case for a wireless USB standard.

[@HicSvntDracones]

Wireless USB AKA BlueTooth. What would be nice would be a more available USB Wireless Extender, where you plug your USB device into a little box on one end and into the PC on the other end. I have seen a few devices, but nothing really standard or widely available

[@ronok7470]

Lol imagine some dude just walking around and infecting any nearby device with malware simply with his presence

[@ByteDecay]

Lookup Silex, They produce small Wireless USB servers that connect to your network and add wireless functionality to wired USB devices.

[@denniscleaver3559]

"Fairly low frequency" Starts at 3.1 GHz. That guy never heard of radio.

[@CommissionerLofi]

Sounds like a security nightmare to me though

[@simonecastello991]

I was actually trying to make something like that. The idea was to have an "invisible" rf bridge. Basically, i would have transmitted anything that came from the Tx cable and on the Rx side i would have a Schmitt's trigger set high enough to trigger only with strong signals. This ignoring any rf law but whatever.

[@addicted2caffeine]

ah I was told that it was originally only intended for smaller devices to receive updates that didn't need a full Internet connection. however because the mass produced WiFi chips and antennas were becoming cheaper it just made sense to have said devices(door bells ,baby monitors to have a WiFi chip, also it could have been used for phones but then push updates became good.) if we had better wireless charging it would maybe have taken off but forcing a wire also ment that there was less risk that devices powered off during updates. and ofc back then during an update most devices were unusable. so it made sense to just force ppl to plus and wait. so potentially cause more issues that it solved.

[@alexhannah8889]

currently Mad that a media agnostic usb standard exists, but no products for it. Gonna have to see if I can't make a microcontroller do that.

[@keiyakins]

because pushing power through the air is hard. For peripherals that mostly stay in place, like speakers, keyboards, even mice, not having to power them with batteries is nice.

[@AstoundingAmelia]

I would love some sort of wireless USB dongle for something like my MIDI gear which is normally wired but which I'd be happy to run off wireless

[@cuivincent9744]

Unfortunately lots of peripheral USB devices with cord are still messy in most of the people's desktop. The Wireless scenarios from bigger manufacturer seems limited only for mouse or keyboard. If Wireless USB can continuously developed, lots small venders maybe capable to provide tremendous gadgets never seen.

[@radomone]

"of course theirs that other button not that you'll know if anybody used it" that shit surprised me lmao

[@statuspremier]

My idea of this was different, the flash drive mags to the chassis of the computer and data transfers through NFC, that means the flash drive yanks off easily and in and direction.

[@xoceingo]

I love that the end of the video was about Apple giving us as few ports as they possibly can 🤣

[@luluismo]

i am more curious why there is no USB via internet or internal network. For example if i have a bluetooth dongle, i want to just plug it into a thin client in room A, and in room B computer can just use the bluetooth dongle like i directly plug it in into the computer USB port.

[@Ahmedhkad]

I wonder why there is no USB to wifi adapter device? I know there is special for printers, but I mean device to just repeat the signal while driver in pc taking care about recognizing and sending back whatever it should! Is it the buffer and timing problem?

[@ahmetmutlu348]

Thats for sure we need wireless Usb. Actually i checked for that lots of times to buy one ower the years. And its good to see a detailed research for the case. The problem it seems money related wifi usb can be used for anything. While wifi usb can be used for any usb device which means manifacturers can sell you 1$usb to 100$+ bonus feature for a buggy wifi system stuck on printer that cannot be used for anything else

[@makrez4real471]

Honestly, I am currently using a wireless flash memory that I bought a couple of years ago. It solves many connectivity problems especially when you have to share data with many types of devices in different locations without having proper internet connection. However, you need to have a portable anti virus software installed on it just in case.

[@JonHubertBristol]

Does anyone remember that the Essential Phone had wireless USB as a feature use for their 360 camera? The pins just provided power, wireless USB handled the data.

[@davehumphries]

For storage Sandisk Connect USB flashdrive also used wifi to be used wirelessly, not sure if they still make them

[@TheMinecraftgamesNL]

I had an sandisk wireless usb stick. It uses wifi and could be used with an app on your phone. Or on pc with the “website”

[@Krynos18]

There are actual firmware based data exfiltration attacks that use the USB bus as a radio transmitter. Secret squirrel stuff on par with remotely reading your keystrokes even on a wired keyboard.

[@stanleysiele8056]

For one... How will it be powered? Anything can be wireless as long as it has some electrons flowing plus a mode of communication.

[@helloworld3306]

i'm interested wireless usb,where look for it?thanks.

[@leica_sl2]

I once had a wifi SDcard never got to use it as I lost the card! Have no pans to use cloud storage, now if the U.S GOV will stop demanding access to the files well then maybe I'll consider using the service.

[@nakamotolikesyou]

As a cyber security specialist, if woreless usb had become mainstream, it would've been paradise.

[@Redmentoos]

I think it was ahead of its time because, back then, technologies like wireless mice were still pretty expensive compared to today. We use Bluetooth as an alternative, but it’s actually one of the worst options we could have gotten. I’m not sure exactly how it worked, but if Wireless USB had been a true USB replacement, it would have had a lot of potential. Even now, we don’t have a good wireless option for a network of devices that can directly connect with each other. If Wireless USB had been recognized as a standard USB connection, it could have allowed devices to connect indefinitely, with just two antennas and minimal effort. Sure, speed might have been an issue initially, but that’s something that could have been improved over time. Bluetooth can technically do this too, but it’s incredibly inconvenient, much slower than 400 Mbit/s, largely unsupported, and before BT 4.0/5.0, most of its useful features were missing. While we have Wi-Fi, it requires a hub to connect all devices, which is fine for speed but bad for direct or secure connections because it always has to go through at least one other device, which can be the weakest link in the network. With the rise of AR, I think we need a technology like multi-point Wireless USB, where devices can connect directly to each other without relying on a hub. Sure, there would be limitations, but we’re not even trying to explore this, even though it seems like a better option than relying entirely on Wi-Fi. Imagine how seamless it would be if devices could directly connect to each other, even when you’re outside your home, without needing constant internet access. We wouldn't have to deal with the annoying “please connect to the internet” PopUp every time a device loses its connection.

[@SmashPortal]

Could they increase bandwidth by including wireless channels alongside the wired ones? Like, if I had a flash drive that transmitted data both over the physical connection and over a wireless connection at the same time.

[@user-tt5pe3gg2u]

I wonder what the latency would be compared to wifi or Bluetooth

[@typerightseesight]

I used to clean windows at a place in cleveland the guy said thats what they made and sold but I always thought it wouldn't really work. on a 15 amp circuit breaker.

[@ryanbrunette3870]

Love the float plane merch. Most casual looking shirt I ever seen.

[@josharafol450]

is there any projects on how to make it tho? I really need it

[@onetruekeeper]

Wireless USB C might not use Wi-Fi because it is too slow for sending graphics data to the latest VR devices which also needs to be able to receive the higher bandwith signals in whatever format it is.

[@mason6300]

We already have a wireless close proximity standard, bluetooth.

[@LokiCDK]

Point of order, both my wireless laptop, and my wired PC, are using ethernet. Ethernet is a signalling protocol, not a medium. My laptop uses Wi-Fi, my wired computer uses twisted pair. Specifically cat6a UTP. Do you can absolutely do ethernet protocol signalling over non copper non twisted pair.

[@ZedDevStuff]

It would have been useful for peripherals that currently use Bluetooth but for anything else, it would mean adding a battery

[@fairplayer916]

What I want is a usb dongle that plugs into my pc, that's wirelessly connected to a usb hub somewhere else that gets power from the wall. So I can say have a usb keyboard as a htpc

[@mnkydeth8189]

Wireless USB dongles exist as raspberry pi devices. Set a 5-10TB file formatted at exFat on a server and have the raspberry pi zero w mount that file when it boots up. You essentially get a huge storage wireless USB stick. Perfect for retro gaming using devices that can use USB.

[@iamlabovic]

I have Maxell Air Stash, its like card reader in a flash drive format that has battery inside and works like small wifi nas server, pretty cool although slow.. but you can watch 1080p movies from it