Why It Has Gotten Harder to Find the Truth with Jonathan Haidt

[@rogerleeaustin]

1:20 Why university culture changed about 2015 1:52 Defend/Avoid vs Discover/Approach 3:37 Gen Z goes to college, takes mental baggage 4:58 Left carries more mental baggage 6:22 University Telos/Mission is Truth 8:16 Trigger Happy/Safetyism 9:05 Social Justice replaces Truth 9:26 Fear U 12:27 Confused U 12:57 Structural Stupidity 16:10 Anglo U 19:14 Q&A

[@eb3279]

Gosh, something insightful, introspective, and not outrageously arrogant happening at Stanford. I never would have thought it could happen....

[@davidblake8612]

What a great talk, it should be more widely shared.

[@Hermes1548]

Danke. Important issues debated. There is no doubt: KZbin is the paradise of the philosopher-scientist. As Popper & Agassi said: science needs social institutions to be presented, discussed, studied. criticized, shared. Gracias.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

philosophy: the love of wisdom, normally encapsulated within a formal academic discipline. Wisdom is the soundness of an action or decision with regard to the application of experience, knowledge, insight, and good judgment. Wisdom may also be described as the body of knowledge and principles that develops within a specified society or period. E.g. “The wisdom of the Tibetan lamas.” Unfortunately, in most cases in which this term is used, particularly outside India, it tacitly or implicitly refers to ideas and ideologies that are quite far-removed from genuine wisdom. For instance, the typical academic philosopher, especially in the Western tradition, is not a lover of actual wisdom, but a believer in, or at least a practitioner of, adharma, which is the ANTITHESIS of genuine wisdom. Many Western academic (so-called) “philosophers” are notorious for using laborious sophistry, abstruse semantics, gobbledygook, and pseudo-intellectual word-play, in an attempt to justify their blatantly-immoral ideologies and practices, and in many cases, fooling the ignorant layman into accepting the most horrendous crimes as not only normal and natural, but holy and righteous! An ideal philosopher, on the other hand, is one who is sufficiently intelligent to understand that morality is, of necessity, based on the law of non-violence (“ahiṃsā”, in Sanskrit), and sufficiently wise to live his or her life in such a harmless manner. Cf. “dharma”. One of the greatest misconceptions of modern times is the belief that philosophers (and psychologists, especially) are, effectively, the substitutes for the priesthood of old. It is perhaps understandable that this misconception has taken place, because the typical priest/monk/rabbi/mullah seems to be an uneducated buffoon compared with those highly-educated gentlemen who have attained doctorates in philosophy, psychology and psychiatry. However, as mentioned in more than a few places in this book, it is imperative to understand that only an infinitesimal percentage of all those who claim to be spiritual teachers are ACTUAL “brāhmaṇa” (as defined in Chapter 20). Therefore, the wisest philosophers of the present age are still those exceptionally rare members of the Holy Priesthood! At the very moment these words of mine are being typed on my laptop computer, there are probably hundreds of essay papers, as well as books and articles, being composed by professional philosophers and theologians, both within and without academia. None of these papers, and almost none of the papers written in the past, will have any noticeable impact on human society, at least not in the realm of morals and ethics, which is obviously the most vital component of civilization. And, as mentioned in a previous paragraph, since such “lovers-of-wisdom” are almost exclusively adharmic (irreligious and corrupt) it is indeed FORTUITOUS that this is the case. The only (so-called) philosophers who seem to have any perceptible influence in the public arena are “pop” or “armchair” philosophers, such as Mrs. Alisa “Alice” O’Connor (known more popularly by her pen name, Ayn Rand), almost definitely due to the fact that they have published well-liked books and/or promulgate their ideas in the mass media, especially on the World Wide Web.

[@jesuslovesaves2682]

@@ReverendDr.Thomas The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. Jesus Christ is the Holy One

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

@@jesuslovesaves2682, Good Girl! 👌 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@nancybartley4610]

Their transformation began in the 18 or so years before college. and it began in elementary schools. It began with the kids of these parents and how they raised their kids. They protected their kids from every little thing. (It seemed to be moms doing the protecting.) Kids would complain to mom about any little thing that the teacher did to them. Mom would run to the principal and complain. The kids learned they could control their environment by activating mom's need to control the world. This also correlates with the breakdown of academic achievement: as teachers were prevented from any sort of simple control of the academic environment, education suffered. It was too important for principals to keep mommies happy than to educate children. Keeping mommies happy kept principals and teachers employed. It is not quite correct to say it began 18 years ago because it is what happened to the parents who raised these kids you saw in 2014 that also plays a role in this problem. They grew up in the 80s, which saw the beginning of the emphasis in schools on self-esteem. I can't help but wonder if schools taking on the responsibility for solving society's problems isn't where the problem started. You should interview all the old, retired teachers before we all die. I remember in 1986 as a new teacher listening to seasoned veteran teachers complain that they were not getting support from parents when they called home. Parents in my generation would ask their child what they had done when the teacher called home and tell their child to stop whatever he or she was doing. This changed to parents asking the kids what the teacher did and then going to the principal to complain that the teacher was picking on their child. You are seeing the results of this changed attitude played out in 2014. It just took time to permeate the culture sufficiently.

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

Bingo!!!

[@pennyfarthing7991]

Thanks so much for this video. I love kittens they are so cuddly.

[@pennyfarthing7991]

I wrote the above comment to prove that it was the content of my previous comment that was censored by google. Thankfully I was able to deliver the comment directly to John by email so great job google team, we'll resolve this conflict one way or another.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

@@pennyfarthing7991 Good Girl! 👌 Incidentally, Slave, are you VEGAN? 🌱

[@pennyfarthing7991]

@@ReverendDr.Thomas Don't get me started mate, last time I tried to have a polite and sensible chat with someone on youtube about veganism my comments were censored for citing links to peer-reviewed literature.

[@BenSlivka]

Excellent analysis. [I see Gad Saad in the audience.]

[@tmaz2701]

An interesting and insightful analysis. The only disagreement is that there are plenty of moderate Republicans - Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Bob Portman, etc. - and, as a liberal, he does not see ANY fiscal conservatives as moderate. He is judging only on abortion views, and most Republican citizens are more moderate than the party itself.

[@mauinix4563]

Gad Saad in the audience. I bet that was a cool hangout

[@christinehill1038]

Jonathan, You might want to look at Columbia University right at around the time Edward Said died and when they had the scandal with Bari Weiss and others and their experience in the old MEALAC department. I was there during the time and see continuity from that time.

[@mplaut1447]

Very good information and analysis. Very likely that the insecurities of the students were a factor, But it seems to me that you also have to account for the fact that university administrators did not push back at all, with the parallel in the Republican party where the "adults" all left or were kicked out and so few pushed back against excesses. Haidt notes that the extremes on both sides criticized their own moderates the most, but that seems incomplete.

[@saattlebrutaz]

Just outstanding.

[@KatanamasterV]

Is Stanford willing to give a statement on why the Burnet talk was taken down?

[@tallard666]

24:50 Exactly. There's an obsession blaming everything on the fashion trend of 2014-15. There are contemporaneous compoments and historical CYCLICAL components.

[@tonygumbrell22]

It is disappointing to learn that social justice and truth are diametrically opposed.

[@eduardksenofontov6641]

Thank you for creating this youtube channel, it is phenomenal. Thank you for providing reasons/evidence on why we see these left leaning changes happening nowadays. I do wonder what created this increase in the number of kids who are anxious, who are scared. Is it access to technology, is it social media, maybe it is the pharmacuticals? It is very sad, as kids are the future and what kind of future will these kids bring?

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

leftism: Otherwise known as “progressivism” and even more inaccurately as “liberalism”, leftism is a term originating from the French Revolution of 1789, in reference to the political faction that opposed the French (so-called) king. However, the term is currently used in common discourse to describe those criminals who actively support (or at least tacitly condone) a host of OBJECTIVELY-WICKED ideologies and practices that contravene dharma, such as non-monarchical governances and corrupt economic systems (particularly socialism, communism, fascism, and liberal democracies), egalitarianism, feminism, perverse sexuality (especially homosexuality, bestiality, and transvestism), multiculturalism, and the illegitimate abortion of innocent, defenceless, unborn children. Cf. “dharma”. In the past decade or two, the mass media, especially the motion picture industry and television production companies, has been aggressively promoting all the above CRIMINAL ideologies and practices, helping to expedite the destruction of human civilization. Recently, large corporations have jumped on the leftist bandwagon (so to speak), in order to profit. As explicated in Chapter 11 of this “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, the state of being of any particular human (or any other animal for that matter) is due entirely to his or her genetic sequencing and his or her conditioning. Therefore, the explosion of the leftist/liberal mentality in recent decades, particularly in Western countries, has been caused by poor breeding strategies overtaking the more conservative tradition of mate-selection of previous centuries (and indeed, millennia). In other words, due to the fact that criminal behaviour (especially the deviant sexual acts mentioned above) has become increasingly more tolerated, condoned, and even GLORIFIED in most countries, there has been a proliferation of corrupt genetic codes within the wider human population. According to genealogists, for (almost) the entire history of humanity, most women have successfully reproduced, whilst a far far smaller percentage of males have bequeathed their genetic sequence to proceeding generations. Due to the gradual phasing-out of polygamous marriages in even the most conservative societies, as well as the eradication of poverty in most every country, more and more men (as well as women) have been producing offspring. Thus, the human genome has rapidly become adulterated by inferior genetic material (that is, DNA from truly pathetic, uxorious beta-males, bisexuals, and even homosexual couples who engage surrogate mothers or sperm donors in order to conceive children - something of a rare occurrence in previous centuries/millennia). Unsurprisingly, the majority of leftists find it difficult to accept the fact that their criminal mentality is largely inherited (and of course, they are unwilling to acknowledge the blatantly-obvious fact that their ideologies and practices are intrinsically sinful, wicked, evil, and immoral in the first place). It seems the consensus amongst leftist "intellectuals" is that every human mental trait is due entirely to one's environmental conditioning, rather than as a consequence of BOTH one's genetic sequence and one’s conditioning - a fundamentally-flawed assertion that cannot be scientifically-supported. This term was very reluctantly used in the chapter on feminism. I say “reluctantly” because it is unlikely that the term will perdure for many decades longer. This is simple deductive logic, since, as clearly demonstrated in certain chapters in “F.I.S.H”, human civilization cannot survive with such leftist practices and ideologies in place. If you happen to be reading this Holy Scripture a century or more after its conception, you will probably be residing in a nation (as opposed to a country) ruled by a monarch, following the implosion of post-modern, decadent societies. So, either the term “leftism” will eventually become redundant and obsolete, or else, human civilization will devolve into a decadent, diseased state of existence similar to that of the prehistoric era, when the peoples of the world resided in caves or shacks, subsisting on whatever food can be sourced from the surrounding bushland. I trust that you who are reading these wise words will endeavour to influence your social circles to adhere to right-leaning ideologies, such as monarchical governance, an entirely free-market economy, sexual purity, and all other virtuous principles. Fear not, for GOD is with you! P.S. As a general rule, it seems (at least anecdotally) that the farther left-leaning is a person, the more physically (and of course, psychologically) UGLY is that person. Unfortunately, that doesn’t seem to prevent leftists from propagating their mutant genes. 🤡

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

You might be part of the problem more than you will ever understand.

[@tallard666]

4:00 self-harm is cyclical in all of societies, some put hooks in their backs to feel alive, they happen to be men, so when they do it it don't count ... sigh

[@tallard666]

19:00 Interesting how ALL attempts to create change are problematic to Haidt!

[@tonyrandall3146]

Haidt does sweet work - his co-authored paper was standout in undergrad, yet I felt I was alone in this somewhat. Typical classical liberal position right? Peterson recently has been talking about females in academic confusing competency with the will-to-power, mainly among men.. i.e., male students - how does that feed into this behaviour? Is that fair? Biases often being unconscious, or outright flagrant in some cases - even if it isn't true the stereotype threat is real.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

🐟 25. THE ROLE OF FEMALES: Women are fortunate because they are BORN with a job: Daughter. Wife. Mother. Females normally have no role in public life. Exceptions to this rule are relatively rare. For instance, women may work in the arts (singers, actors, and dancers, which often demand female players), or as maids or nurses, both of which are feminine duties, providing it has no detrimental effect on their PRIMARY function, as daughters, wives, and mothers. So, a female’s fundamental role is to serve her MASTERS (any man in her family circle), even from a relatively young age, by performing domestic duties and raising her children. Barren women (heterosexual or otherwise) are extremely unfortunate, but can still devote their lives to serving their husband, father, grandfather, uncles, or in the event that none of those men are extant, adult male cousins. Studies have shown that the more a woman deviates from this innate societal function, the less she is fulfilled. The phrase, “Cat Lady”, says it all. As a general rule, women should be protected in the home, and never wander-out alone. They should FULLY cover their bodies in the presence of post-pubescent males outside the family circle. Even the prostitutes in some nations wear veils in public, even if out of fear of reprisal. Having lived the eremitic life of a monastic priest for a few decades, I can attest to the importance of keeping one’s home clean and tidy. It is obvious to me that housekeeping is very much a full-time occupation, and that if I were to neglect my domestic chores, my health and comfort would greatly diminish. As would be expected of a person in my position, I follow a strict diet and am obsessive in regards to hygiene. Without a spouse, the onus is on me to maintain my residence in a prim and proper manner, even though it results in me spending less time teaching religion as a member of the Holy Priesthood (The World Teacher, in my particular case). Therefore, the role of a housewife is of PARAMOUNT importance, and must never be discounted by anybody, particularly feminist ideologues. The following chapter deals with feminism. The ONLY reason I have resided alone for most of my adult life is due to the fact that there is a severe scarcity of decent women in my country, and indeed the entire world, what to speak of holy and righteous women. Unfortunately, few women, particularly in the more affluent nations, any longer receive adequate training in the connubial arts. In my former marriages, I was forced to perform most household chores. In recent centuries, due to various factors (FEMINISM, in particular), women have become so degraded, that is it practically impossible to find an example of an ideal woman. Therefore, in order to reference examples of such a woman, one is forced to refer to figures from ancient myths. Mariam, the mother of Lord Jesus Christ, and Devī Sītārānī, the wife of Śri Rāja Rāma, King of Ayodhya, are the epitome of womanhood, and ought to be the role models for each and every girl born on this planet. That is assuming, of course, that those two women were, in actual fact, the gentle, refined, humble and submissive goddesses they were portrayed to be in the archaic scriptures. Obviously, this teaching receives an ENORMOUS amount of scorn, contempt and derision from a certain proportion of women (and also many "men"), but that is perfectly fine, because, such foolish feminists are destined to die lonely and alone, with no family surrounding them, and hopefully not transfer their adulterated genes to forthcoming generations. In some locations in the world, STRAY COWS freely wander the urban streets, displaying their teats. Similarly, in most locations, women wander the dangerous streets alone or in groups, displaying their bosoms and other bodily parts. Such loose women are no better than STRAY COWS. The TRUTH is very difficult to accept, right, Slave? “Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the TRUTH.” Siddhārtha Gautama (AKA The Buddha), Aṅguttara Nikāya 3.131 (Paraphrased). Paṭicchanna Sutta “...encourage the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be self-controlled, chaste, good managers of the household, kind, being submissive to their husbands, so that the word of God may not be discredited.” ************* “Yet women will be saved through childbearing, provided they continue in faith and love and holiness, with modesty.” ************* “Women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.” St. Paul of Tarsus, Titus 2:4-5. 1 Timothy 2:15. 1 Corinthians 14:34.

[@heatherchapman1984]

When the students become "enfant terrible," the fault for that child's misdeeds, philistinism and general anti-social attitudes lies squarely with the parents and other adults who ignore, deny, or actively indulge and even encourage that behavior. At Universities, the responsibility for giving into the well-known cognitive frailties and tendency towards groupthink, etc., lies squarely with the bloated administrator class (who see the institution as nothing more than a cash cow and private social club and fiefdom), and with those faculty (who really should know better and, I suspect, secretly do) who have failed to defend institutions that have allowed them the luxury of living a life devoted to academic study and teaching. They cower quietly in their rapidly-shrinking ivory towers, trying their best to maintain the lifestyle to which they've become accustomed, refusing to help defend other academics whose towers are besieged by the mob, let alone defend territories where a spirit of inquiry and honest open debate would allow the homeless academics to build their own towers of learning.

[@Urlocallordandsavior]

As a counterpoint, the internet Millennial/Gen Z right-wing subculture became more of a thing around 2014/2016 (Gamergate, Pizzagate, The Fappening, Trump Pepe the Frog memes during the 2016 election). But I agree that the internet left is much more powerful than the internet right (and the US far-right is more powerful than the US far-left)

[@skiphoffenflaven8004]

When did “soccer motherhood” begin again?!

[@elizabethk3238]

Wow! It's wall to wall White men in attendance...

[@tallard666]

5:40 graphs that start in 2005 are pointless! JHC Haidt, you should know better.

[@saattlebrutaz]

To be fair unis were seminaries.

[@TheVietnameseDevil]

trinity triangle gang 😎