Why It's So Hard to Like Esteban Ocon

[@RicksF1Addiction]

Bro has the record for most penalties ever given in an F1 race 💀 Also fixed the audio I think

[@shayzadg]

"Alpine F1 driver Esteban Ocon had some terrible luck during the first race of the 2023 season. Before the lights went out, the Frenchman lined up his car ahead of his grid spot which led to the driver incurring one time penalty. He further went on to receive another time penalty for not serving his first penalty right. It was later found out that Ocon passed the speed limit while entering the pits." ....thats why he received the penalities. So whats the point in mentioning ? Is it cuz u just want to hate on ocon cuz u got an alonso stick up your tail? Hmmmm

[@RicksF1Addiction]

@@shayzadg i aint reading allat 💀

[@shayzadg]

@RicksF1Addictionn typical toxic f1 youtuber who just wants to hate on any and everything...I'm surprised u didn't also make a mazepin hate vid as well but anyways....your bias content will be the downfall of your channel but gl promoting it

[@Justin-q1o]

​@@shayzadg It is a fact that Ocon had the most time penalty in a Race

[@shayzadg]

@user-fp4wt9kn8e yes I never denied that but it's for entering the pits to serve a penalty and entering too fast. Like if he got 20 secs for that vs someone who got 15 secs for ramming people off the track..which is worse? Like ocon pen isn't worth mentioning imo altho it's true because it isn't for a serious offense if u get me

[@pieter6342]

Whats most surprising to me about Brazil, that I can understand in the heat of the moment complaining, because of adrenalin. But then after the session, he went and said he didn’t even lose the car, although he clearly did

[@neildefoix6729]

I still think that because of what Alonso keep saying about him and the team all season, he did not wanted to take the blame, because he has taken in part in other crash/ problem this season, like in Australia. Still it was 50/50, with Fernando moving back early on the trajectory.

[@MLPaz]

@@neildefoix6729Are you referring to 2023 when the two Alpine cars collided or was this before? In 2023 I know Gasly and Ocon came together in Australia and neither finished.

[@TheJokerit19]

I'm here after the 2024 Monaco GP.

[@elisabethkulakov4863]

that was insane... I was so glad that gaslys car was fine and he still got to score that one point, but ocon is abnoxious

[@TheJokerit19]

@@elisabethkulakov4863 Same & only Ocon, as the sole responsible party, having to retire was effectively poetic justice.

[@MeHighG]

same LMAO

[@jishan6992]

Say less

[@nicksojka7457]

As am I

[@hhhvnter]

Not Checo on the other side of the wall 😭😭😭

[@marvinracer88]

As a mexican I laughed my ass off.

[@StruggleBusStudios]

Ocon even had the dream PR scenario where the story line was: he “lost” his seat to a pay driver whose dad bought the team and through being a hard nose driver he clawed his way into holding a seat. But then he decided to flush that turd down the toilet and instead pit maneuver max and every teammate in sight

[@DeathBlocks]

I think he even had such a good reputation at the time that the opinion on the Max incident felt more in favour of him than Max. At least from the things that I saw it was at least split equally. And that was before the current state where Max had way more neutral fans.

[@lukemccauley1480]

I find it so funny that he's hated because I personally thought the first few seasons of Drive to Survive tried so hard (and succeeded) to make him look good, and still he ruins it

[@RicksF1Addiction]

I had the exact same experience, netflix cant hide this man's character 😭

[@lukemccauley1480]

@@RicksF1Addiction 😂 couldn’t have said it better

[@Jeremy-is6dy]

French bashing, always.

[@lukemccauley1480]

@@Jeremy-is6dy some of my favourite drivers ever are french, I like Gasly, love Alesi, Prost, Loeb, Loubet, absolutely love Kevin estre and Michele Mouton; Ocon really is just that unlikeable

[@vitreo1363]

He only ruined it with fans of Alonso and Max, who tend to hate the same people now that those two are buddies.

[@ebayer1980]

Ocon is extremely jealous of Verstappen. Maybe because he was champion in f3, but Verstappen third. That hate towards Max was perfectly shown in 2018 Brazil.

[@bilalrazaq8522]

An incident that was, 6 seasons ago now. Both have gotten over it and are completely fine with each other. And he's not jealous, he respects Verstappen a lot. Just look at the interview he gave when Max won his third championship at Qatar

[@NeonColored]

​@@bilalrazaq8522 what else was he supposed to do there? Mimic a Twitter crybaby and tell everyone ItS jUsT tHe CaR?

[@mapleleafkay9824]

What? Bruh you sound sick 🤣

[@supermastater]

@@bilalrazaq8522How do you know for sure? Are you friends with any of them? You just don’t get over stuff like this, and all the ass kissing is just for the media. I assure you that they both hate each other’s guts just the same as before

[@neildefoix6729]

Bro 💀, this is an incident between a car who know how important this is to take a lap back and another who want to win, nothing was personal. Ocon don't hate Max, he hate mostly the man who didn't support him into F1. Verstappen has nothing to do with that.

[@keithframe3489]

Who's after Monaco 2024?

[@Warrioruk]

Me

[@QSSEditorium9981]

Right here

[@CEOGames]

Something to remember about Ocon is that he didnt grow up rich like most drivers and the Stroll episode means he knows how fast a seat can go away. Yes he's usually a prick, but I respect him because he's committed and tough as nails.

[@LeXx0r]

This idea where Ocon didn't grow up rich, but most other drivers did is just wrong. Please name more than 5 drivers on the current grid who grew up rich

[@micagarcia2642]

⁠@@LeXx0rVerstappen, Sainz, Russell, Norris, Piastri, Stroll, Zhou, Tsunoda, Sargeant. And I didn’t include Hulkenberg, Bottas & Magnussen bc I honestly don’t know much about them. Also Checo and Charles weren’t rich growing up but they were funded by millionaires (a billionaire in Checo’s case) very early on, so they had connections to wealth either way.

[@LeXx0r]

​@@micagarcia2642 Let's first define rich. I would say 30M$+, as this is the definition of UHNWI. I remember that the sponsor of Fabio Leimer (GP2 Champion of 2023) said in an interview he put 18M CHF (roughly 20M $ today) into his careers. Obviously Fabio had multiple seasons in F2, so you could get to F1 cheaper - and he didn't even make it to F1 - but still, you'd have to dish out at the very least 10M$ out of pocket. And this shouldn't impact your quality of live. So by that standard, let's examine the drivers you mentioned. Verstappen: Well of but his dad was nowhere near where he could pay 10M$ out of pocket without affecting his quality of live. That would probably be most of his net worth if not more. But he's certainly well connected -> Not rich Sainz: Well of but his dad was nowhere near where he could pay 10M$ out of pocket without affecting his quality of live. That would probably be most of his net worth if not more. But he's certainly well connected -> Not rich Russell: Not rich, middle class Norris: Rich, his dad could easily afford it Piastri: His parents are certainly not poor but his dads company employs roughly 100ppl. Maybe enough to carry his sons career, maybe not. According to media, they definitely drop a few millions themselves. Stroll: Rich, his dad could easily afford it Zhou: Unknown, possibly also rich Tsunoda: Not rich Sargeant: His parents are not rich but his uncle is supposedly a potential billionaire

[@Alexander.73]

You can do both Respect his rise and still don't like him

[@Red_Tsar]

​@@micagarcia2642 Much like Max, Kevin had a lot of support from his dad (Jan) from an early age, so he falls into that too.

[@eanfran]

IMO it kinda seems like for a guy that had to earn his place all the way to F1, but just isn't quite WDC contender material, Esteban is driving to keep his spot in F1. Massive respect to the guy for just being a legit talent, but I think that might be why it seems like he has an ego. He just is the kind of guy that always has to advocate for himself, because merit is what is keeping his seat, not how nice he is. He seems pretty nice off track, obviously a quiet dude, doesn't really need off track drama.

[@CozyRodent]

has the ego of CR7 being a Rashford

[@Wonderkid44]

@@CozyRodentin terms of equivalents, ocon is much more consistent than rashford so thats not fair.

[@Maxzung]

This point always seemed a little weird to me. Firstly, Lewis had an even more humble family background, nevertheless, he is not behaving like a d*ck. Secondly, everybody drives to keep their spot in F1 (except 1 individual on the grid) :D And thirdly, at this point, he made north of $10 million, so he (or his family) clearly doesn't have to work a day in his life anymore. However, his attitude is still the same. Let's be honest - Esteban has a massive chip on his shoulder. He is talented, but nothing extraordinary (relative to F1 greats). So he uses his upbringing to justify his anger management issues and lack of performance.

[@eanfran]

@Maxzung 1. Whether or not Lewis is dick is highly subjective, nevertheless you're right, but I never discounted, or even said anything about him. 2. This is true, but I don't think it's controversial to say that Esteban's seat is far more contentious than most others on the grid 3. This is kind of a non sequitur. Why does making a lot of money mean you aren't or shouldn't be a dick at your job? It's not like it would be acceptable (at least the way you frame it) if he didn't make a lot of money. I think you're blowing his ego way out of proportion. I really don't see him acting out of line at all. Is he a little self-centered? Yes, that isn't really all that surprising, or really that unlikeable compared to everyone else on the grid, or motorsport in general

[@mateo1726]

True but a principal doesn’t want to deal with a driver that will knock his teammate out every race either.

[@Legend57.]

Funniest sh*t was when he came on the radion and said "Someone tell hulkenberg im about to pass him" Then proceeded to be stuck behind him for 10laps...

[@sallybally344]

That was a misinterpreted scenario, ocon explained he wasn't being cocky it was radio to screen glitch

[@iceofspades254]

5:19 aint no way you done put perez there bruh hell nah💀💀

[@RicksF1Addiction]

Someone had to do it bro 😂

[@LiftandCoa]

Man rich enough to get a Staying Visa tho :D

[@missashleymacmacmac]

people comparing his temperament to Max’s are hilarious. the reason Ocon nearly got punched and Leclerc gets a debrief is bc they respect each other, are direct, and actually apologise to each other when warranted.

[@Čangrizavi_Cinik]

Ocon and Stroll are similar. Both idiots towards the team mate.

[@arjunsriram3878]

@@Čangrizavi_Cinik the difference is that stroll takes other drivers along with himself in every other race while ocon goes and takes his teammate along with himself every other race

[@TDSHSalvador]

This popped up right after the monaco incident LOL

[@faraazsathaar8111]

Inchident

[@fin-ed6oj]

Ocon's teammate battles against Perez were far worse than against Alonso

[@rb026]

Yeah but that was mostly Perez fault just like with Button to be fair

[@gabrielmurati766]

Perez made some of the worst move ever when he realised he was as quick as him as a rookie

[@michaels7258]

Those were mostly on Perez.

[@TravelwithPavel]

Only thing I like about Occon is that he made it to F1 despite his family being middle class, so he had it much harder than pretty much any driver on the grid as yes not everyone is super rich, but at least their parents had enough money to support their career, but thats the only thing really.

[@thirdy4threetv]

Lewis

[@TravelwithPavel]

@@thirdy4threetv yeah Lewis also didn't came from rich background but Occon had it even bit harder

[@vitreo1363]

Ocon also took blame for the crash Gasly caused, just to keep Gasly from being suspended. But no one looks at that; all that matters is whether some driver hates him…

[@piwo647]

@@thirdy4threetvLewis comes from a nice middle class setting. Ocon parents definitely had less money.

[@charlesfaure1189]

Make excuses.

[@ally-o-oreo6090]

Tbh I call him estie testie because he tests everyone’s patience. I get that his circumstances are different, but for me what I really dislike about him is his lack of accountability, and the fact that, even when he does make a crucial mistake or causes a collision, he will never take accountability. I have yet to see him ever take accountability for making mistakes and to meet the good drivers are the ones I can take accountability Acknowledge that they made a mistake and learn from it rather than trying to deflect the blame on everyone else.

[@cosmari245]

U should watch his interview today😭😭😭

[@ally-o-oreo6090]

@@cosmari245 honestly, it’s getting dangerous where he will not take accountability for things not everything can be called an incident. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if his job ends up at risk because of his lack of accountability. I don’t know how long a team can withstand that because it creates negative press a bad environment between teammates. Overall, I just don’t feel like his lack of accountability should be tolerated anymore. Estie Testie is definitely testing the patience of his teammate. If I were Alpine I would be looking to try and get Pierre either Schumacher or Yuki as a teammate, Schumacher is doing well racing for the Alpine endurance team and Pierre seems to be a good mentor/guide. He helped Yuki a lot It would be nice to see Pierre and Yuki back together if Schumacher isn’t an option

[@cosmari245]

@@ally-o-oreo6090 I agree with you that it's getting dangerous for him. If I were him I'd be sweating rn. The stunt he pulled at the monaco gp was not it. He apologized in a brief tweet and instagram story, and many of his fans are defending him saying oh he apologized for his actions... but the problem is this is the first time he's been a bad teammate to somebody. As Gasly said in his interview "this should not happen..." You're right that there's only so much a team can take.... Also from various news outlets it looks like alpine is going to take this seriously, they are NOT happy. P.s. seeing pierre and yuki back together would be a dream

[@ally-o-oreo6090]

@@cosmari245 I’m hoping Alpine go and try to get either Schumacher who would come with a family that at least has racing knowledge to potentially help them or Yuki. As much as I would love to see it, be Yuki, and Pierre together I feel like Alpine really need the knowledge that the Schumacher family brings. The actions in Monaco were absolutely ridiculous. That should never be happening. It was unacceptable behaviour I have no idea why anyone ever called him Estie Bestie because to me, he has truly always been Estie testie. The reality is he needs to be making his apologies if he’s going to make them in front of the cameras at the track not on Instagram or social media a lot of older fans don’t use social media so it’s a case of if he’s going to apologize for things he needs to do it on camera he can’t keep making excuses on camera and then throwing out a light fluff apology. After the fact once he’s already been ripped apart I think he needs a coach or mental health professional to help him understand his actions have consequences and probably a really good PR person to help him to clean up his image if he wants to

[@jzayas5698]

I remember in Drive to Survive how Netflix made Checo look like the bad guy when they were both in Force India.

[@Cloxxki]

Isn't it wholesome that Lance and Estaban get along so well? Coming from such different cultures and Lance's dad probably hitting billionaire status before Lance was out of diapers. But that could also be a social contract, like HAM and Shakira. Beards to get the media off their backs for hanging out only staff and family.

[@lexuslfa4739]

He also gets in well with magnussen, bottas and seb. He’s an old fashioned guy not a diva.

[@Red_Tsar]

​@@lexuslfa4739 And I think Nico Hulkenberg as well, judging from last year's Secret Santa.

[@tomaskranenburg5754]

i think he’s just french

[@LuckyLuke7895]

So is Gasly, but people love him. It ain’t that.

[@AngryChineseWoman]

Haha, teuton boche spotted

[@lyrisstianen]

There's a bit of truth 😀 but hopefully we are not all are like that... think Gasly, Panis, Alesi, Prost, Todt, Vasseur

[@arjunsriram3878]

pierre gasly is also french and charles is close to being french(i know hes monegasque), yet theyre such lovable drivers

[@studiomoris4542]

as French as Vasseur is cool

[@sirsancti5504]

My personal theory was his head being shaken with the Force India situation. I can imagine his mindset to be "always #1 in the team" since then. Unfortunately, he didn't had car nor skills to match that mindset.

[@kinamuraa4357]

KEEP EM COMING! Looking forward to your content throughout the season!

[@RicksF1Addiction]

Thankyouu 🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@AnnabelleXD]

I feel like I’m the only person that actually likes Ocon. More so because of his background, coming from nothing, being dirt poor and still securing a seat in a sport that’s all about money. I also think he is humble and charming. But many don’t see it that way. I understand he makes mistakes but when Max plays dirty and does the same shit to his teammates no one seems to care. I get that Ocon isn’t exactly going to be world champion one day but I still admire his grind. He’s outperforming Gasly this year and I think he deserves more credit and less hate. If we need to bully someone it should be Stroll since he’s clearly only there because of daddy’s money.

[@MRafi32]

What are you talking about, Verstappen hated by many people even before controversial 2021. That's why he got crashtappen as a nickname. The difference between Ocon and Verstappen is that Verstappen improved his driving skills while Ocon still a hater to his teammates.

[@AnnabelleXD]

@@MRafi32 lol ok 👍🏻

[@l_poci_]

Ocons penalties in bahrain weren’t fully his fault (well 2 of them were) but one if them was because the team didn’t sever the penalty properly and touched the car before the 5 seconds had gone through, hence now a 10 second on top. The fia kinda stopped doing that after aston proved them wrong in saudi.

[@Kaimax61]

tbf, he calleed him a magnet, so penalties comes to him, doesn;t matter if its his own doing or someone else.

[@alex_gallo_]

I’ve seen this joke and I guess it’s accurate: Pierre, with a lush bag: Listen, I know we don't get along, but I got you a bath bomb for your birthday, so whenever you're feeling stressed and you need a bath, just fill a bathtub with water and throw it in. I guarantee all your worries will be over. Esteban, opening the bag: This is a toaster. I feel bad for both of them because the most positive thing I can say about Alpine nowadays is that at least it’s not Haas. It sucks because even when they had good race days this season there was always someone in mid field that was better than them and they ended up forgotten or they were mentioned for all the wrong reasons (as you mentioned in the video). If we compare Stroll’s garage stunt from this year and Ocon’s “lapses of judgment” (for lack of better words) throughout the years we can see that everyone can earn redemption. But in Ocon’s case I think he gave up.

[@reezala5780]

Aged like milk ( the haas part )

[@alex_gallo_]

It did… lmfao. Oh how I would love to be a fly on the wall during their next briefing with sponsors.

[@cosmari245]

seeing this comment after what happened td 💀☠

[@ioxynotreal]

5:22 putting checo there is absolutely criminal lol

[@capnsalt7102]

Checo catching strays like that is WILD 💀

[@thomasclark3332]

You've perfectly highlighted his attributes! But for anyone wondering, Ocon's behaviour goes way further back than 2021. There's the multiple collisions with ex-teammate Perez, the time he took out the leader of the race (Verstappen) to unlap himself and what followed post race was the smuggest face known to man, and the fact his only friend on the grid is Lance Stroll lol. My point is that he won't change.

[@aguywithananimeprofile8950]

He is french, thats why

[@lud3re384]

Here after he unnecessarily crashed into Gasly in Monaco.

[@Wildcat12]

Ocon is one of the VERY FEW drivers that didn’t come from money. Even Hamilton, whose family wasn’t super rich like most others, was still relatively wealthy. Ocon was middle class and worked his way up purely on merit. It should be such a PR slam dunk, but it ends up working against him because he feels like he has more to prove as someone who didn’t come from the same social standing as the rest.

[@michz2156]

Then why does Hamilton say that they use to sleep on a couch?

[@roughlytuned]

Hamiltons dad working 3 jobs to pay for the Karting up until McLaren sponsored him doesn't sound wealthy.

[@houssamk777]

Sometimes it has to do with physiognomy as well, he just looks like a french super villian lmao

[@superxavxii421]

Bruh, when you look up "5 second" on KZbin "penalty for Ocon" is one of the auto fill-ins 😂

[@davidvasquez08]

Definitely true

[@lababe-e6n]

i only had to type 5 💀

[@ItsMeRedd_]

Esteban Ocon is the type of guy to let others through except his teammate

[@burnedhills]

I'll never support a guy that spins by himself and blames the guy that let him have his first race win

[@SlightCrescent4]

Love how this is getting recommended to me today lol

[@markmatrahegyi639]

I'm a die-hard Alonso fan. Few years ago I kinda liked Ocon, and I was really happy to see him to take that victory by the help of Alonso. The way he treated and talked sh*t about Alonso really pissed me off, and I also started to hate Ocon. Ungrateful, totally mediocre egoist driver. He, and the way he is acting reminds me of Francois Delecour (I know he was a rally driver). Really unsympathic. Ocon is not necessarily a bad guy or a bad driver. In my opinion he isn't any worse than Hülkenberg for instance. But I feel like sometimes his mouth is way bigger than his talent. I feel he is jelaous. Mostly of Verstappen. But maybe of Alonso too. He should stop talking cr@p about Alonso. Alonso's pair of gloves worth more than Ocon's whole career ever will.

[@bilalrazaq8522]

So when Alonso completely talked sh*t about Ocon in Brazil, that's justified, but when Ocon does it, he has an ego? The only things Ocon has really said against Alonso was mentioning that he *also* had bad luck in 2022, and that he did majority of the sim and marketing work. Other than that, he's upheld he has respect for Alonso. Even in Grill The Grid, when he's asked who one of the best drivers was, he said Alonso. And it's not like they hate each other. Monaco shows that they're fine with each other, and F1 posted something from Las Vegas which showed them greeting each other, so clearly they're fine As for being jealous, that's just bullshit. No way to prove he is. And you act like Ocon is talking crap about Alonso every week, when he's not. Both drivers have other issues to deal with. I get you can be angry about Brazil 2023, or Hungary 2022, but those incidents happen to every driver. But because it happened to Alonso, Ocon must be villianised

[@veljkotodorovic5071]

After everything Alonso did for the guy he has every right to say what he wants about that idiot. Trying to say Ocon did nothing to Alonso didn’t watch the first few minutes of the video where he’ll risk everything to keep his teammate behind but let everyone else right past. Look at what he did to Gasly at the last race 2023 even against team orders the dick head just doesn’t understand

[@MrBashem]

He's a bad guy. Its one thing to have a bad day here or there but when it happens often that means its their personality. You can't be a good person and have a bad rap sheet. Doesn't work that way. There is a saying about actions speaking louder than words.

[@neildefoix6729]

Alonso's behaviour is normal to him, he come to a team say "look guys i'm the best" and don't achieve his goal, than trashtalk all the team, it's the same thing since 2006 (yes, even with Renault). He critize his teamates (look at Ferrari and how he killed Massa). Yet u say that Ocon is an "Ungrateful, totally mediocre egoist driver". Experience told us the other way. Ocon do not hate Verstappen, he didn't take Ocon seat in F1 or anything, but yeah, hating the man who trashtalk you all season long and critizise the team is something normal.

[@CptLedlos]

@@neildefoix6729 Please tell me, when Alonso critizised his teammate? He killed Massa in Ferrari, because he was much quicker. Also I've never heard any Ocon's teammate praising him, he only praises himself. The most funny part came in DTS season 1, when he was complaing, that he has to go to circuit in a car, but his teammate Checo Perez went in helicopter. So yeah, Ocon is an egoist driver.

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

It's true that his behavior towards teammates is sometimes pathetic and i hate the fact that he never recognize his mistakes, but he's definitely one of the most likable guy out of the car and the most underrated driver of the grid! First of all, he was super solid in karting, not as good as Charles or Max, but stolid, despite coming from a poor background (he's the only driver of the grid that genuinely had a family that had barely enough money to live), then in the junior formulas, he was as good a the other of his generation and beat Max (although with a better team and with more experience) in European F3. At Manor in 2016, he progressively closed the gap to Wherlein and had an amazing race in the rain in Brazil, where he fought for the points against much faster car (that performance give him the FI seat over Pascal), he also finished all the races and never made any mistake. Then at FI, he was incredibly solid, almost finishing every time in the points and being incredibly close to Pérez in 2017 (scored 87 points against Sergio's 100), then out-paced him in qualifying in 2018 16-5 (and also showed great tire management, he was just a bit more unlucky than Pérez). After a full year in the sideline, he had a somewhat mediocre season against Ricciardo but still scored good points consistently and was able on multiple occasions to challenge Stroll who had a much faster car. Then, against Alonso, he was sometimes seriously impressive, although he was generally less brilliant and far less consistant, he was more often than not able to somewhat match Alonso's pace and did better against him than most of his teammates, let's not forget he's still the last driver at Enstone to have won a race. Finally, last year, he scored only 4 points less than Gasly despite 3 times more DNF. Btw, you also need to know that he is the driver who costed the least amount of money isn car crashes over the past 7 years among drivers who had at least 1 full season, so his propension to ruin his team are overly exxaggerated.

[@sonicsupersam7793]

bro youre up there with rocketpoweredmohawk in terms of f1 journalism just so you know

[@RicksF1Addiction]

Oh really? Hahaha ive seen that guys content before hes great. My main inspiration is videogamedunkey though ❤️‍🩹

[@LiftandCoa]

While your styles are definetly very different, both of you are unbiased slagging off everyone whos deserving and I'm here for it.

[@garythesnailsdad]

Not surprised I got suggested this after todays race in Monaco 😂

[@kakarottvegeta2897]

Its not just the charisma he is dangerous on track,a bit psycho. He closes other cars extremely agressive.

[@mexicanopdb]

Ain't even on the shenanigans on Bahrein, that wasn't all his fault, the problem is in Austria where he got like 15 warnings and 40 seconds worth of penalties all cuz of track limits

[@ballparkjebusite]

Nicely done video. That was Sainz car on fire btw

[@bilalrazaq8522]

He's disliked because when he's had incidents, whether with teammates or other drivers, it's always popular drivers. Perez's and Alonso's fanbases are very dedicated, so when Esteban would race them on track, he would be antagonised. Many people ignore that Perez was at fault for the majority of their incidents together. Angering the Verstappen fanbase didn't help either. And the media turned people against him with the whole Gasly v Ocon story. As Gasly was the only one of the pair to talk about their past, and as he's more popular, people sided with him against Esteban. A common idea that is used to hate Ocon is that none of the drivers like him, which isn't true. Him and Max have a good relationship, it seems like things have cooled off between Esteban and Checo, and his relationship with Alonso is good, despite what his fans think. And he's fine with Gasly as well. The hate against Ocon is just stupid, considering he's a heavily underrated driver and one of the nicest drivers in the paddock

[@randomrexy2135]

Down to the ground and really well pointed out

[@lexuslfa4739]

All the fans that have interacted with him say he’s a really nice guy, even the media really like him, but Martin says he turns into a little devil when that racing helmet goes in. But he’s usually fair and never crashes out. He’s a firm but fair racer. For instance he holds the record for most races without a DNF as a rookie and the first DNF was due to grosjean

[@randomrexy2135]

@@lexuslfa4739 i can personally say i was at a special Wednesday day and ocon took the most time to give fans what they wanted

[@lexuslfa4739]

@@randomrexy2135 exactly, most people speak this of him. The one I’ve heard that has an attitude is Carlos Sainz

[@ibra3079]

FF: When Ocon and Gasly were karting drivers, they were best friends and they used to train together. One day, during a karting tournament in 2010, Gasly was doing on a great quali lap and ocon, which didnt like that his best friend was above him, completely cut the grass and crashed into Pierre so he couldnt get a good lap time. Ocon has been how he is since he was a child and apparently noone said him that what he was doing was wrong.

[@strahinjajankvic9384]

Well this aged well after Monaco...

[@LaChuletaDeOsler]

i really think magnussen is the most dangerous driver in motorsport, but ocon is very close and definitely the most problematic driver in the f1 grid. magnussen still manages to make points for haas.

[@danieelllg]

Here after the Alpine Double Podium on Sao Paulo 2024 and Ocon P2! I'm always be an Estie Bestie fan no matter what, and hopes he achieves excellent results with Haas next season being a more mature person

[@GabrielGarcia-ug1qr]

His speech in Monaco after the race and his radio to Haas saying "You better be ready" are the cringiest things I've ever heard in a while

[@cedricl.marquard6273]

Coming here after Monaco is hilarious😂😂

[@flamingburitto]

So. Who's here after Monaco 24?

[@mingchen8664]

He got kick from alpine today, let's gooooooo!!!

[@zeddyfreitas]

I bet loads of people are coming here after Monaco '24. I had felt like this since his run in with Verstappen but didnt know many other disliked him too. Now that Alpine has their French driver in Gastly, Occon is no longer necessary. His story is wholesome and I appreciate his ambition and skills but when it comes to the person inside the helmet and his attitudes/choices, I no longer feel he deserves a spot in F1. Leaning on all stereotypes, he is a poster boy for French arrogance!

[@shaanpraveen8319]

great frequent vids! ur gna be famous 1 day

[@PhilMadeek]

Anyone here after Monaco 24?😅😂

[@The_ZeroLine]

I’m like you. I was initially a fan and I now despise the guy. I can’t count how many times I’ve seen him focus so hard on blocking a teammate even if it loses him places.

[@ТаняШтогрин-о6з]

i’m here after Haas signed him… pour Bearman

[@VHBEngines]

How you started this is EXACTLY how I felt about dude

[@AgentUltimate7]

This video is ageing like fine wine.

[@GaryOfthegardens]

F1 fans would LOVE a working class hero type but Ocon isn't the one. He's closer to Stroll

[@W4ZEL]

Ok I'll say it, I'm French, and I do like Ocon. I actually like him a bit more than Gasly or Leclerc, because he seems more genuine to me. He doesn't care about how he looks to the public, he does whatever is best for him, and he has a huge ego, as is often the case for the greatest of racing drivers. He didn't come from a rich family, and he's overall more relatable to me. Rant over.

[@notsydew]

I think the point where F1 fans started not liking Ocon that much was him being a magnet to crashing out with Perez at Force India and ofc the taking out Verstappen at Brazil thing

[@neildefoix6729]

Have you seen the race? Perez was driving like a murderer.

[@leanisleneadepalene]

lmao, right. easy to blame ocon after the penalty for ocon lameass meme@@neildefoix6729

[@randomrexy2135]

its sad for ocon because he has the talent and already the skill to pull some crazy moves and speed I also find it a little odd that everyone sides with gasly with no reason other than hating on ocon, people if you hate ocon for being egotistical (which yes has has alot of ego about racing and tbf but especially against alonso you kinda have too, drivers like Verstappen, Hamilton alonso a very difficult to deal with driving you kinda have to grow your ego trough the atmosphere or you will drown Also one last thing, if ocon gets all the hate for being rough against competition than Following that logic gasly should have more than double the hate for being a massive dick to staff (one of the reasons why redbull dropped him don't know if he fixed that with himself) Amazing video afther 3 vids you earned a Extra subscriber :)

[@veljkotodorovic5071]

Having an ego is fine but at least know your place, these guys understand where their teams stand and what’s best for the team, Ocon thinks he deserves the world and hasn’t done much to prove he deserves anything better than a seat in the haas. If he had the talent everyone hopes he does toto would have brought him up to Mercedes like he promised instead of George, toto is the only reason he’s on the grid

[@MrBashem]

@@veljkotodorovic5071 Must as I don't always like George's ego, least he can back it up some what.

[@johndansby3620]

I can only imagine how difficult it was for Esteban to avoid taking Max out in 2023 when Max passed him all year long…endlessly.

[@WizardOfOss]

I kinda liked the guy when he was racing for Force India together with Perez. And was clearly messing with him a lot. But at that point he was just a newcomer, fighting for his spot against a more experienced driver, a phase in his career when a driver could still get away with some shit. But once you've become an established driver, there gotta be at least some respect for both teammates and other competitors. And he shows absolutely none.

[@Jorge.Painkiller]

I can admit that I'm a huge Esteban fan. He and Carlos are my favorite drivers rn in the grid

[@MrAobrady]

Why?

[@Jorge.Painkiller]

@@MrAobrady The guy has amazing racecraft and takes advantage when there's a gap, like Singapore 2023 when he overtook Checo and Fernando

[@aarrodri]

His attitude matches stroll but without daddy money shield

[@Shock1213]

Checo on the Mexican side of the border 😂 as a Mexican that was a good touch to add. LOL I cracked up.

[@zabi_comms]

Who's here after Monaco 24?

[@TheGamerHenstrike]

Glad to say I've been a DAY 1 hater of Ocon. Since he was in F3

[@Qalypsa]

I feel like he just wants to keep his seat by being the better one in the team.

[@julianschernthaner4351]

Video lasts for just over 6 minutes for most people, but will extend to in excess of 7 minutes length when Ocon watches it due to multiple 5 second penalties. 😅

[@cyboinc3583]

Dude would actually be a very solid driver if he wasnt such a shitty teammate

[@Veyron_fan]

"Ocon may be the only teammate to outscore Alonso in terms of points." Jenson Button would like a word..... 😂

[@Veyron_fan]

@@manasatatikonda they were teammates 2 years and button won 1 and Alonso the other yet you say he "only outscored in 2015 and alonso AGAIN beaten him in 2016"? So it's 1 a piece so how did he "again beaten him"? The statement was only teammate to outscore alonso, which Jenson did in 2015 lol

[@freyalove3831]

Alonso had DNFs, even though close to points. Lol. Ocon is never going to win WDC, he will win some podium in 2nd or third position. O

[@pimon-monono]

Wow and you should do a new video adding Ocon vs Pérez in Force India clashes. That was so odd too! xD

[@2811JPR]

On D2S Ocon said something that made me go: "That guy is alright." He said something like "The time, the weather, holidays don't matter. We train. We race. We do what needs to be done"

[@itz.coco05]

Fr

[@111baf]

Let's not forget Hungary 2022 where he went across the track to block Alonso going out of the pitlane and let Ricciardo through in the meantime.

[@s0lr542]

Ur videos are amazing keep it up!

[@mazeunofficial7647]

You got like 5 videos, and I’m already addicted

[@RicksF1Addiction]

Glad you like them 🔥🔥🔥🤝

[@Calendula-my5ll]

This isn't quite fair. He didn't grow up with a silver spoon in his mouth, hence he has everything to loose. It's like a bandwagon thing to hate the kid. He has talent and gets a lot of hate, which is sad to see.

[@iamhalinka]

Interesting how the video popped up on my yt after Monaco 2024😅

[@smithyrico]

This aged well

[@davezhu7651]

He just did it again, to his teammate yet again, Gasly

[@Bela_Vampyre1931]

Anyone here after Alpine dropped Esteban

[@neildefoix6729]

Ocon know what it is to lose an F1 seat, Perez was very hard against him at Force India (Belgium and Singapore GP), due to that, Perez was kept (he scored more points) so yes, Estaban defended hard against all of his teammate, knowing that it is important to lead the team by scoring more points. Also, he has an agressive style, so he is sometime more kind to do mistake. I think his style was really defined at Manor where he had a shitty car and has to do impossible things to keep the pace. Tha'ts also why he isn't a great overtaker, which is a thing we like very much in f1 (tbh, Ricciardo was the same before going the Red Bull in 2014). He is not perfect and isn't making a lot more mistake than other midfielder , but due to the fact that he was almost always alongside "cool" drivers (as consider by the fanbase such as Ricciardo (+he replace Hulk who was also popular) Alonso (I don't know why people like him as he is an absolute dick with the teams he had driven for) and Gasly ) any of the thing he does is criticable by anyone (of course Brazil 2018) and the toxics fans are numerous. Also, see how netflix has treated Gasly win at Monza vs what they did for Esteban, for most of the new fan, his win is only due to Nando (OC he played a major role here but Ocon has to defend against a 4 time WC with an equal car). Once again, the fanbase is unfair, like it was with many other drivers (like Villeneuve, Sutil or even Perez before), it is part of the sport, but it is too much this time.

[@ronan1686]

Disagree that he isnt a great overtaker. He's had some of the greatest overtakes these past two years

[@neildefoix6729]

@@ronan1686 He has some great move, but many time he hesitate when the moment come.

[@LiftandCoa]

Generally i think its completely useless and ridiculous to speak about character when it comes to professional athletes, as that has nothing to do with the relevant topic at hand. Those are separate topics (like for videos like this). As people i can stand neither Lewis nor Max (although I have a preference for directness and honestly), but ask me if i care. I do not. All thats important to me is how they drive a car. I do not watch a popularity contest.

[@neildefoix6729]

@@LiftandCoa If you follow other sport, you should know that character is very important, in Football, people like Ramos, Pepe or Puyol are not reacting the same as they are confronted with the same situation. Same goes for all other sport, it is very important are athletes are also individuals

[@RaptorV1USA]

Thank you... I've been waiting for this video and I didn't even know it.

[@osama2135]

and today he left alpine. Took them too long to realize

[@blazehall8086]

I think most of these dudes are difficult to like because they aren’t the best of the best. They clearly just fit into whatever f1 or the team is interested in at the moment.

[@jppataki]

He also was a "nice coworker" to Perez in Force India. But i like him

[@lasnico_7]

I honestly like this guy. He puts a lot of commitment and passion in his racing. But he definetly needs to change something about his ego for the benefit of himself and the team though. 👀

[@testtest-f2r]

I love you TJlovesFights type videos in a F1 perspective! Love the content man keep it up!

[@michelleal9102]

This aged like gold

[@e.i.3077]

I’m fresh new to F1 and as a fan of another not-popular driver (George) I still find the hate ridiculous. Save for the multiple penalties, all of these things have been done by other, more popular drivers and it’s so funny to me how all the focus was placed on Alonso when Alonso seems to be known for getting away with a bunch of shady ass maneuvers that have put others in danger.

[@Samuel-hy6um]

One thing that really pissed me off about the SQ1 crash in Brazil without Alonso is how Ocon said he didn't have oversteer, even though you can clearly see in the video he *did* have oversteer

[@GauravKumar-qy4sn]

I still have to watch the whole video but at 29th second I completely resonate with your thoughts and I am sure I am going to like the whole video

[@sergimeli4194]

Whos here after his expusion from alpine??? Au revoir ocon, your teammates wont miss you 💀 I think he is a decent driver, its a pitty his terrible personality and ego have killed his career...

[@bananacookie702]

I came across this video after Monaco 2024, and guess what? Welp, he did it again, and it looks like Alpine management have finally reached the limit of their patience The only question is, will it be Mick Schumacher or Jack Doohan in his seat in Canada

[@xxchata]

its so hard to justify this dude after that statement he posted, when he literally said this 3:41

[@cikame]

This might be the first time i've seen Ocon's face.

[@didoda96]

lol the egotistic tried to make another one of his (Monaco 2024)