Why Japan Is Abandoning Its “Zero Immigration” Policy

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[@hitoshir4886]

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[@christopherjohnferrer3771]

I'm worried Japan will eat wokeness and LGTVQ habitat.

[@MayaMaya-tj7kw]

​@@christopherjohnferrer3771Japan has been gay for time immemorial, wakashus and same sex relationships were a common thing. Oiran ( female prostitutes) would service both men and women. As for wokeness, remember that racist who are Japanese will discriminate against white folks for not being Japanese. White people are a minority and will remain a minority in Japan, wokeness will help you, not hurt you

[@christopherjohnferrer3771]

@@MayaMaya-tj7kw You American agent? You want to destroy Asian people with your immoral beliefs?

[@maegalroammis6020]

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[@takosdon7754]

I could see a future of foreigners who take these videos in stride, go to Japan become depressed due to the gap between ideals and reality and eventually criticize Japan. The Japanese people have always been, are and always will be a conservative people. It is best not to have excessive expectations.

[@piergiorgioscollo7163]

"Always will be" simply isn't a thing. Japanese conservatism has very specific cultural roots, which will eventually fade away.

[@takosdon7754]

@@piergiorgioscollo7163 It's a simple question but why do you foreigners want the Japanese to accept foreigners so much? Your foreigners' unrequited love for Japan and Japan is at a pathological level.

[@yourdissapointeddaddy2057]

Yeah as long as the old people are still alive Japan will remain conservatism. Japan’s elderly is what ruined Japan’s economic future. Japan is too scared to make risks because it’s part of their culture to avoid change.

[@strollingoutlands1041]

they siphon too much health insurance, in consequence young people only see bearing babies as an economic burden in their personal life. if only japanese just cared for their own elderly, there wont be too much home for the elderly that will demand more insurance from young people. so it is the same old story, once families are broken, it will have devastating effects on the economy.

[@jordanjohnson9866]

Nah. Not always will be a conservative. /

[@OpenBiolabsGuy]

If you want people to have more kids, don’t just throw money at them and say “we’ll pay you to have children!” You need work reforms that make more room for LIFE. Life can’t be about being a cog in a corporate machine until you’re too broken or worn down to function. You need to have a culture that focuses on family. Reasonable workdays, weekends, family sick leave, seasonal vacations that you can spend with your family. Time to go on a honeymoon vacation with your newly wed spouse. But no, the Japanese work culture is all-consuming.

[@alokozay300]

I'm no economist but won't having people work less hours and less intensity also worsen the economy Edit: got the awnser

[@dominicperez3777]

That's corporatocracy / corporate capitalism for ya!

[@eulyer3722]

Powerful words from a random that shields himself in anonymity; in what country do you live were endemic people still have more than 2 kids ?

[@t4squared]

Europe tried that, and their birth rates are still declining

[@Ichigoeki]

@@alokozay300 Well yes and no. Working less hours per week but actually WORKING during those hours instead of just sitting there, waiting for your boss to go home so you can go home, or to "keep up appearances" of actually working is provably more beneficial than just "working" longer hours. You can look to the Nordics for proof of this.

[@greggvictorious968]

I've been living in Japan for seven years and just had to renew my work via. There are so many more restrictions being enforced that I would say the opposite is true.

[@laflamejm271]

Are you a teacher by any chance?

[@greggvictorious968]

@@laflamejm271 I want to work multiple jobs but they're pigeonholing me into just being a teacher.

[@earlysda]

c@chinachickensoup3796 china, Teaching is a stress free job???

[@greggvictorious968]

@chinachickensoup3796 You think teaching English in Japan is stress free? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! I'm sorry but if you only knew.

[@greggvictorious968]

@chinachickensoup3796 you heard wrong. Be glad you're a programmer.

[@notmesuueman726]

My wife decided that it wouldn't be a bad idea for us to move to Japan because she wants the kids to grow up with somewhat similar values to hers and to me it wasn't an issue due to easier immigration policies. Got to see more of her family and better my Japanese skills. One thing was very commonly brought up whenever i had discussions with my brother in-law about kids was lack of time and how expensive it was. He would leave for work at 6am and come back 10pm if he wasn't out drinking with coworkers, he'd literally say that I was lucky to have a job outside of the country because of how flexible my schedules are, im basically in my kid's life 24/7 and he called that a rarity. The issue is work hours and even work enjoyment, he and his colleagues hate their work but cannot survive without it

[@tonig2757]

Japan's education system is on the ultra-conservative side. That's pretty much where the "stand up to get hammered down" thing is born. If that's ok with you it's all fine though, no system is perfect and all of them have the potential to cause life long trauma to your children.

[@redhidinghood9337]

It's crazy how apparently japan developed is but at the same time has working standards worse than some 2nd world countries

[@gordonbgraham]

We've raised 5 kids in Japan on my modest salary without my wife working. I work 8:30~5pm, 5 days a week. I also run an elite youth ice hockey program with 70 kids. We practice three nights a week and on Saturday and Sunday. I would say roughly 90% of the kids are driven to hockey by their fathers. OECDs numbers show that Japan ranks 27th in the world for hours worked per annum. Japan Rail's numbers corroborate that as their site shows that the evening rush our is busiest between the hour of 5~6pm, meaning that's when most people are returning home. It's estimated that 70% of Japanese workers in Tokyo take the train to work.

[@gordonbgraham]

@@tonig2757 We've raised 5 kids in Japan, all of whom have been through or are currently in the public school system. We couldn't be happier with the care and attention they've received. My eldest daughter is currently on full scholarship at Tsukuba University in micro-biology, my eldest son went to a trade school. Upon graduating he and a friend rented a lot at a port in Kobe and began a car export business, buying cars in number at auction, doing the necessary mechanical work on them, then shipping them overseas for profit. The discipline and focus they'd acquired from their educational upbringing has served them well. My son at 22 makes 3 times what I make and he only has a high school education! The only "trauma" any of my kids got from school was they day they graduated and had to say goodbye to their wonderful school days.

[@matthewalvarez6884]

Just depends on your job. I work in Tokyo work from 8am to 4:30pm. Thats it. 12 weeks of vacation time

[@majora320]

Japan needs to change its working conditions if they want to permanently attract foreign workers. As it stands their work culture demands that you practically sell your soul to a company, which means you have no life outside of your job or school. This is also a contributing factor to the decline in birthrates. People can't have babies if they don't have enough free time to pursue and develop relationships.

[@Qqxx22]

Yeah Japan’s work culture terrifies me, at least what I’ve heard of it, and really makes me think twice if I want to move over there. I saw a documentary about japans work life balance and it featured a teacher who basically worked every hour of every day and he eventually worked himself to death. One day he just didn’t wake up. His wife stated he was always comparing about beings “so tired.” Very very sad situation. Nobody from the business end will miss you, especially true once your replaced and position filled.

[@HaohmaruHL]

Sadly, the working conditions won't change because that's ingrained in their culture and a part of their life and world view. It's not just work but starts early age because Japan's education system brings up mindless drones so by the time they've graduated from a university they were a blank slate to become a bendable company slave. They have no reference level to how working conditions can be since they have never experienced it the other way. It's a very self-centric island nation who doesn't know anything the world outside Japan even in the age of Internet. And they don't really want to know and mainly focus on themselves. Japanese are very resistant to change and keep saying "that's how we've always done it". I don't wanna say that's its almost like living in the Matrix or the 1984 but still. Those who went abroad and did experience better working conditions have decided to stay there and only come home to Japan from time to time to visit their friends and families. When I joined a Japanese IT company I was expecting at least some progressiveness. Turned out it's full of people in their 20-40s who have already adopted the way of thinking of a 70 year old Japanese about self-sacrifice, trying hard for the sake of the organization and the society. I've been here only for 6 years but talking to different people here and there I feel that this cycle won't change. At least not in the near future.

[@Qqxx22]

@@HaohmaruHL thanks for your input. What your said here is basically what my consensus is: long hours, no social life, company first, work your self to the bone mentality, superiors at work are always right even if they’re blatantly wrong, one is considered lazy if they leave on time/ set firm boundaries. Sounds soul crushing to me and I would not last very long. Racially since my new mentality towards work is “this is not my life and I will prioritize my wellbeing over the company.” People have recommended if living in Japan one should work for a western company with western work culture/ expectations. Or live in Japan work remotely through IT gig or whatever for a western company.

[@majora320]

@@HaohmaruHL unfortunately everything you said is true. These things will eventually change, especially if foreigners come into the workforce. However, change in Japan is a very slow thing unless it is forced onto everyone. I have a deep admiration for Japan's culture and history, but its people don't deserve to suffer as they are now. What's worse is that many don't see the problem because of how normal it is in their society until they experience other cultures like you said.

[@kinkobidoba9010]

Some of the European countries have both, which are work life balance and good salary. They still have low birthrate problem.

[@norihiro01]

Never forget that being a tourist is not the same as living and working in a country.

[@cdn4767]

I understood it very clear, it’s like telling me that Dubai is better than Sydney in touring, which it is, but it’s clear which place has better quality of life.

[@FirstLastOne]

@@cdn4767 Having lived most my life in Vancouver, visiting Japan over three decades, living in Tokyo for two years and visiting Sydney several time to compare, the ONLY factor that doesn't make it a fair comparison to put Dubai in there is RELIGION. Take that out of EVERY place on earth and then you can fairly compare apples to apples. If only humans would stop living with fiction ruling their lives.

[@neisanland2503]

open doors but heavily and carefully verify who passes, Japan is known for it's low crime and amazing services. it needs to remain like that.

[@anita.b]

Japan is actually known for their warcrimes, pedos everywhere and super reactionary society (that is now declining)

[@eduardomesquita4451]

This is a legit question…knowing that Japan and other Asian countries have this Shame culture (what I mean by that is appearances). Are the statistics about crime in Japan a true representation of what goes on there? Is it possible they reduce numbers on don’t inform correctly?

[@rulesandregulations7192]

I found it ridiculous, low crime? As long as you think Japan is a sugar coated peace village and close your eyes, sure it is a country without much crime. There is crime everywhere like everywhere else. I would even say crime is done overboard in daylight but if you can't even see the obvious this comment is useless.

[@asdfghjjhgf]

@@eduardomesquita4451 I don't think any country gives correct crime rate data. Even in the U.S., only about 5 % of all crimes are reported so It is impossible for the police to know all crimes.

[@neisanland2503]

@@rulesandregulations7192 low crime compared to western countries and europe.

[@anzuchan]

The problem is, most jobs in Japan require capability to speak and read Japanese without so much conpensation. Unless you desire to work specifically in Japan for some reason, you'd rather learn English or something and go elsewhere. Although this monolingualism might have helped prevent serious brain drain from happening.

[@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250]

yeah but if you noticed the majority that goes to japan it's asian, like the chinese who have a similar language

[@anzuchan]

@@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250 I don't think Chinese is proper example for that. Korean definetly is. But they are aging fast too. Other than Korean, I don't think there is any similar languages to Japanese outside of Japonic languages. Japonic languages don't have any confirmed genetic relationship with any other languages.

[@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250]

@@anzuchan I hear Chinese say that the kanji is the same in both countries. So that's a plus for a Chinese wanting to learn the language.

[@anzuchan]

@@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250 Kanji is not quite the same. But yes, they have a head start reading. It's more like Vietnamese for most Europeans.

[@JMB_focus]

​@@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250Chinese launguage is different from Japanese launguage they are not at all similar it's like saying french and Korean si similar lol

[@abel8831]

Mass migration is the death of not only the west but also of Japan. If they just rode it out, the Japanese would eventually scramble to repopulate their own country. Hard times would create stronger men.

[@davidpark2509]

100% japan is doomed and this saddens me greatly.

[@ChicagoRonin]

Just got back from a recent trip (my first in 30 years) and noticed a lot more foreign-born permanent residents living and working in Japan. And frankly, I felt like most people were nicer than i remembered. I went on a food tour in Osaka led by a British man who had emigrated to Japan and settled down with a Japanese wife and had two teenage daughters. An Australian couple on the tour asked me if I'd ever move to Japan. I replied I was hesitant because although I speak Japanese and was of Japanese ancestry, I'm not just American but half Korean. My tour guide chimed in and said that's becoming less of an issue, especially among younger generations. Left me with a lot to think about.

[@gerardtolero7378]

that's refreshing to hear

[@linkskywalker5417]

That scenario you just described was unthinkable 30 years ago.

[@coolcobrax]

This is probably stupid to ask but why does being half Korean have something to do with it?

[@ChicagoRonin]

@@coolcobrax Japan and Korea have a long and contentious relationship. Japan attempted to invade Korea in the 1600s and colonized it 1910-1945, during which they actually attempted to erase Korean culture (My mom was born in 1943 with a Japanese name). Koreans have long been discriminated in Japan. During the Great Kanto Eartquake of 1923, amid a wave of hysteria over immigrants supposedly commiting post-disaster crimes, Koreans were harassed, beaten and murdered. Ethnic Koreans born and raised in Japan are still discriminated against and many are denied Japanese citizenship. When I was a university student in Japan 30 years ago, I usually avoided mentioning I was Korean until I got to know people better. Today, however, I'm blown away by the sheer number of young Japanese who are into Korean culture, and the Korean-themed bars, restaurants and clubs around Tokyo.

[@jmwintenn]

@@ChicagoRonin pretty nice of you to leave out the fact korea raided and destroyed japan for centuries prior to that. dont act like korea is a victim,they're always the aggressor

[@TheNexCat]

I’ve been in Japan as a Tourist and this is a wonderful place. However, I’m not sure about relocating here as I heard of hard-working culture that scares me.

[@nazgulXVII]

The working culture is only one of the problems. The *huge* language barrier is another. Yet another is that the better part of the job market is closed to you unless you are a skilled technologist or speak Japanese fluently. Also, the work culture in most companies is not meritocratic: you have to just age to climb the ladder. But hey, the taxes are low, the food is great, the country is beautiful, the people are nice. So your mileage may vary, as they say.

[@TheNexCat]

@@nazgulXVII I’m still young and would love to learn a new language, so I don’t see it as a problem, rather than as an adventure. Taxes are good, yes. Overall I had a though of moving here, rather than in the UK or Europe as I find culture here more interesting

[@ThePianist51]

Toxic employee atmosphere hits the nail better. I mean: you can work 100% for 8 hours or 50% for 14 hours. That’s the actual reality.

[@jerryjazzbo2845]

It should scare you hard enough to think harder about it.

[@Nowseemypoint]

The hardworking culture in Japan makes the Japanese people's lives longer

[@OlliTechDE]

Live in Japan for four years now. Really love the country, the people, the environment etc. The most thing I enjoy is having my calm. Nobody is annoying or disturbing you, in a good way. You can just live your life and be happy with your things. You can stay forever or return after years, it's completely up to you. Japan is a very relaxed country to live once you got use to it.

[@gumerzambrano]

How was the work culture

[@mariusmatei2946]

You must be living in the town & country!?

[@mariusmatei2946]

​@@Cha4kand no you.

[@OlliTechDE]

@@mariusmatei2946 suburb of a big city

[@mariusmatei2946]

@@OlliTechDE that explains your serene/tranquil lifestyle.

[@ssssssstssssssss]

Japan started changing the policy about 15 years ago. It’s not something that recent. The government cannot be too loud about it though because the people are nervous about immigration.

[@DaniG.German883]

Rightfully nervous

[@あいこでしょ-t7d]

Exactly

[@mariusmatei2946]

To me, it's the irony that a right-wing conservative, and far-right nationalist (political) party like the Liberal-Democratic Party (the governing party of Japan) has favored any type of pro-immigration legislation!

[@raymondrogers3929]

The citizens of Japan should decide Japan's future for the benefit of the Japanese people. Outsiders should respect this and the Japanese people should not allow outside pressure to compromise its culture and dictate policies towards Japan.

[@gumerzambrano]

If it was up to the people they would still side with less foreigners despite a slowing economy

[@iuliia8051]

They can't afford it unfortunately. They are behind on everything and now they out of labor force as well. Literally dying out.

[@hirrad]

If this is your opinion, then you should import slaves not Skilled Worker immigrants.

[@davidpark2509]

100% agree w/ this

[@爪切り締切]

日本人ですが、経済的に衰退してもいいので移民は入れないで欲しい。19世紀に無理矢理アメリカに突かれたから経済大国に今なっているが、細々と独自の文化で生きていきたい。日本を変えて移民してもらうのではなく日本的な生き方がしたい人のみ日本で住んでほしいと思う。

[@armyan5556]

Multiculturalism has destroyed Europe

[@aceasbjorn]

I respect this take. If I ever was to immigrate to Japan i would definitely adopt the Japan way of life.

[@lpsinko9705]

transaltion "I'm Japanese, but I don't care if the economy declines, so I don't want immigrants to come in. We are now an economic powerhouse because we were forced to take over America in the 19th century, but we want to continue to live our lives with our own unique culture. Rather than having people change Japan and immigrate, I would like only people who want to live a Japanese way of life to live in Japan."

[@nikolaizaicev9297]

I beg your pardon? Economic superpower? You probably haven't looked at your national debt level in a while pal :D No one has anything against Japan becoming a poor country again, well, except maybe your children who will have to migrate or work for a bowl of soup will have something against that.. Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot that with a 50% probability you don't have any kids and won't have them in the future, then you are right, you really don't have anything to worry about.

[@fatwombat2611]

Me too. I like Japanese culture and people. I think my children would do well to grow up in such a culture.

[@abellyold4859]

The expectation to conform and behave strictly according to norms is deeply ingrained in Japanese culture of which an individual must have immense courage to be an unconventional maverick or act out of the norm.

[@xMoomin]

umm come to shibuya bro/girl

[@NationX]

This logic is very loosely applied to foreigners. Perhaps more so in business environments. Or perhaps if you were to intermarry. There’s this expectation that foreigners don’t understand Japanese culture so any attempts to respect anything is a pleasant surprise. Hell I’ve seen Japanese people both young and old break certain rules that I adhere to on the daily. I’d say if you have a decent level of Japanese and can manage to land a decent home and job (those two can be the toughest parts, depending where you live and your qualifications) you can live here comfortably. Source: Currently a language student living in Tokyo. Can’t really speak for other prefectures.

[@martiddy]

​@@NationXThe thing is that what most foreigners call Japanese values to people behaving just like a civilized person. Things like keeping places clean and being polite to people should be normal around the world. Obviously, there are a few things that could be a little different, like the tatamae values, where you're expected to not express your real emotions to avoid offending anyone (especially while working). But I think that offending people is not necessarily a bad thing as long as it's for a justified reason. For example, I could say that a person is uncivilized if he does a thing that I could perceive as unacceptable. But I understand why this could be the norm in the workplace.

[@tonig2757]

@ImbAHaM Shibuya doesn't contradict what was said. While some places act as magnets for certain kind of people, underneath everything Japanese people are still mostly conformist.

[@waltneitzel4950]

My Japanese Niece and her husband were non conformists and moved to Australia years ago to get out of the Japanese rat race. They have a lot of Australian friends and are very happy and adjusted to the Australian life style. My Niece eventually graduated from a nursing collage in Australia, and really struggled to become a licenced nurse. Not easy for a non English speaking foreigner in Australia. She does video conferencing with her mom and the rest of her extended Japanese family often to keep in touch. They occasionally also go back to visit, but I doubt if they will ever go back to live until after they retire. She will call me occasionally just to say hello. She speaks excellent English now with an Australian accent.

[@NoctLightCloud]

looking at the current protests going on in France, I can NOT recommend that path to Japan😅

[@nietzmietz5568]

What do you mean? What does that have to do with immigrants in Japan?

[@scottpilgram696]

​@@nietzmietz5568they are saying the immigrants are burning shit down in France. So don't let in a bunch of religious backwater folks into japan

[@imwayne4159]

@@nietzmietz5568I think they are saying that the immigrants are causing the problems, riots, and looting in France

[@NoctLightCloud]

@@nietzmietz5568 everything. you think the Japanese won't make the same mistakes when it comes to integration? Heck the Japanese seem to be even more into seggregation and not giving their immigrants equal opportunities.

[@nperegri]

Cope

[@SuperMichelePlay]

I am sad to hear that. I'm Italian, immigration has made Italy worse. Degradation, insecurity, ethnic conflicts, struggles between mafias and gangs. and the Italians continually accused of racism unjustly... Mass immigration is a colonial system… on the contrary, where the natives are continually humiliated.

[@longseason2516]

this is absolutely not true and its basically you admitting that you’re racist

[@SuperMichelePlay]

@@longseason2516 "You are racist", this is the typical phrase of women with a racial fetish for blacks, or racial fetish in general. Who, unable to admit their fetish, hide it behind social justice.

[@Frostchris4121]

@@SuperMichelePlay You sure proved her wrong lol.

[@wilkesmcdermid7906]

@@longseason2516 Why just resort to calling people racist for sharing their opinions. Typical leftist response.

[@gumerzambrano]

How come I've never heard of this

[@SolamenteTavo]

Yeah, I want to go to work and have kids in a country with a culture that expects me to spend like 14h at work or being seen as a lazy inmigrant

[@gordonbgraham]

Most Japanese work 40 hours a week. Japan ranks 27th in the world for hours worked per annum.

[@szczepan4737]

@@gordonbgraham That's official data. In reality workers are expected to stay longer at work. "If you leave before your boss, then you are not a hard worker".

[@gordonbgraham]

@@szczepan4737 That data is corroborated by Japan Rail’s data which shows the evening hour between 5-6pm is the busiest in train stations throughout Japan. It’s estimated 70% of Japanese commute to work by train. Certainly, there are sectors such as finance, marketing and agriculture in which overtime is rampant, but that’s true of everywhere on the planet.

[@cristianhcm1914]

What is an inmigrant? ....?

[@sheezy2526]

@@gordonbgraham Yeap, they also have very high amount of leaves per year. Working condition in Japan is no different than any other Asian country.

[@younessalibane7504]

If you asked me, I feel like Japan will solve a problem with another problem, but I am interested to see where this shift is leading Japan to.

[@PhillKaggitz]

I can't wait to see how Japan's handle Cultural Enrichment

[@thenightcorereaper]

@@PhillKaggitz if they want to avoid it they should only take in parents with babies to avoid bringing in younger to middle aged folks who are already foreign-adapted type of people who may cause culutral clashes with the locals. That way the kids grow up in japan and end up like the rest of the population, while screening their incoming labour force for behaviours that may cause confilict.

[@dragunitytamer28]

I think the problems that could arise from this is mostly on cultural part, more & more foreigners will occupy Japan and some won't adapt to Japanese norms and try to normalize their norms which could diminish Japan's unique culture, example of this case is my country Philippines, in the 2000s our culture is slowly getting replaced by those of the west, now almost all kids & teens don't know our old culture & norms.

[@michaelphillips2079]

​@@PhillKaggitzmy thoughts exactly.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

​@@PhillKaggitzthey taking other asians with similar cultures so no worries. They arent desperate for more tax payers unlike europe

[@drifle91]

As much as Japan opens to the world, the japanese society still has a closed mindset of receiving foreigners in their community. This has nothing to do with racism or any discrimination, it's just the culture is so kept intact that foreigners will almost have a very difficult time to integrate into one.

[@i_am_ergo]

The word you're looking for is 'xenophobic.' And yeah, they certainly are.

[@maegalroammis6020]

xenophobia is like racism.

[@Kronos0999]

Good

[@ultrasurfs]

​@@i_am_ergothere is no such thing, you just want them to change to suit you.

[@Lenteus]

I don’t see anything wrong with that, every culture should strive to be conservative and keep its identity.

[@sharrablackfire7337]

Saying Japan was more strict than North Korea is stupid hyperbole

[@user-jc62a7v28]

North Korea😂😂😂😂

[@limelightraver5690]

It’s just politically correct cope by bitter woke Westerners who can’t accept the reality that that Japan never has and never will join them in their multicultural suicide pact. Japan wants to remain Japan and not some soulless culturally suicidal, self hating husk like the West has become. Japan will be around long after the West has died by its own hand. But many “experts” in the West can’t accept that, nor will they be honest about their own true motives as to why they are so obsessed with the worthless pipe dream of Japan adopting complete open door immigration which is never going to happen and never will and when you really think about what presumptuous (and downright insulting) wishful thinking that is on the part of so many Western “intellectuals” it’s pretty laughable that they think this has even so much an inkling of not being dead on arrival. Meanwhile Japan, like the rest of Asia looks at the west quietly says “um... no... if you’re so hell-bent on killing yourself then you go off and die on your own if that is what you wish. Our culture will not commit suicide just because you self hating Westerners are so self-conscious about justifying what you’re doing to yourself that you feel the insecure need to dismantle your entire civilization on a whim because you feel guilty over things your ancestors did that you feel bad about, pathetic!. Piss off and die... literally! Ya silly suicidal self hating westerners!” I could never understand, when I was younger, why Japan refused to knowledge the war crimes they committed during the Second World War and my suspicions have only grown that a lot of it has to do with how they’ve seen us behave in the West for the last five decades as we engage in a disturbing self flagellating self-righteous circle jerk over muh racism, muh slavery, muh Indians muh oppression etc. The Japanese studied American history over the past 50 years and it scares the shit out of them what we’ve become when our entire culture is built upon obsessing over oppression and grievance and past wrong and now social cohesion is dead in America Canada, Britain, Australia, Europe. I wouldn’t be surprised if I were to find out that many of the people in Japan who deny Japanese war crimes during the Second World War, secretly know deep down that those atrocities truly were bad but feel like they couldn’t acknowledge it even if they wanted to for fear of beginning the 50 year slippery slope of turning as self hating as us and if that theory ever turns out to be the case I would not be surprised and you know what? considering that they’re still gonna have a country to be proud of in the future I don’t blame them for feeling the need to do that, I don’t blame them for wanting that at all. If that is what it costs then it’s just not worth it for them to give ground on this issue or any issue in the long run that would allow self-hatred to get it’s foot in the door and do to them what it is done to us for the last five decades. Look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki today, two cities that were obliterated by nuclear bombs are more livable today then cities like Chicago and Detroit. Need I say more?

[@JeromeProductions]

I’d love to visit Japan some day as it’s always been on my bucket list. However living there is definitely out of the books.

[@user-pd9ju5dk5s]

Dont worry. They dont like foreignors so it's a win win

[@JeromeProductions]

@@user-pd9ju5dk5s fantastic 💀

[@ShubhanshAgrawal]

Please I request you deeply to not think of moving here. I have only worked in Japan and now my skillset are low and energy even lower to move outside of Japan. Don’t ruin your life too, visiting at max is enough

[@sayajinmamuang]

I better hurry up and go visit soon before the foreigners impose their shitty politics and ways of life on the country. 😂

[@MayaMaya-tj7kw]

​@@user-pd9ju5dk5sthey don't like you in particular

[@koczan8464]

I think that comparing situation in Europe and how it changed to Japan is not a good idea.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Exactly, Japan is taking in other asians lol

[@BoredInTheComments]

That's the exact comment I just made lmao. Literally watch a video of Muslims bragging about burning France down.

[@vothbetilia4862]

Duh Japan is xenophobic

[@SeethingSimp]

@@vothbetilia4862 I wonder why it's so safe. I wish Japan had its' own Chicago, that would be amazing.

[@vothbetilia4862]

@@SeethingSimp lol it's not so safe.

[@CausallyExplained]

i want Japan to stay as it is. Europe is going downhill with all the immigration. As much as i want to live in Japan, i would still not want them to make it easy. Choose where you bring your people from and be very selective.

[@coolioso808]

Japan will not stay as it is, nor will any country on Earth with human beings operating on a structurally unjust, unhealthy and unsustainable monetary-market based economy. Change is happening, immigration increase is inevitable and you can wish it away as much as you want but that won't help. But if you look under the rug, the system can be changed to so that people would be able to, and even prefer, to stay in their country because they can sustain a decent life there. Unfortunately, that can't happen over night, but some are talking about what "A Viable Society" would look like, such as Peter Joseph, Michael Tellinger and the channels such as Moneyless Society, World Beyond Capitalism, Second Thought and Our Changing Climate.

[@nikolaizaicev9297]

No immigration and be selective? Sure recipe for a death of economy. I recommend you to read the book of Adam Smith " Wealth of Nations" and to pay a special attention to the role of specialization in the growth of economy and wealth. Then maybe read the book of Marx " The Capital", to understand why Capitalist systems thrive and die after, which leads to the necessaty of immigration in order to extend the life of capitalist systems. And lastly, read something about system's theory and system's dynamics like Peter Senge's "The fifth discipline" which will give you an understanding that no amount of " I wish blah blah blah" will do anything against the flaws inbuilt in the systems we live now in. Japana has only 2 options now: 1. Continue to do what they do and slowly rot, getting back to underdeveloped poor economy. 2. Stop b....ching around and spread the legs, extending the survival of capitalist system for another 40-50 years before a revolution happens. Same goes for Europe and USA, that is why you see the inflow of immigrants in these Regions.

[@Assassins6688]

Lol just look at European music or football and sports players these are from other races and religion and lead their country in their fields what did immigrants destroy?

[@PuchoSprite]

Everything ​@@Assassins6688

[@PuchoSprite]

​@coolioso808 lies.

[@抹茶アイス-m2i]

Here is a japanese uni student. Accepting tons of immegrants are very risky. It's just a solution for workers now, but government would be required regislation about it. As you know, Japan is really conservative, and it's so slow to make a dicision. How about pension for immegrants? Taxs? Right to vote? Japanese society might fall into chaos if government do nothing before changing immegration policy. Speaking honestly, I'm afraid of it. In these days, some foreign tourists and immegrants curse big problems for crims, annoyning behaviors, public safety, and so on. I don't want to shut out people who have interests of Japan, but I can't say welcom 100% at the same time.

[@westvillage321]

俺は40才を過ぎた会社員だが、君のような大学生がいることに失望するよ。 どんなことにもプラス面とマイナス面がある。 あらゆる物事について言えることだが、プラス面を最大化し、マイナス面を最小化することに努力を傾けるべきだろう。 なぜ君は大学で学んでいるのか？何を目標にして学んでいるのか？もう一度自分に問いかけたほうがいい。

[@Raccon_Detective.]

Also the reasons why the population got so low will still be around even with emigration ensuring the cycles continues, not to mention this is happening all over the world.

[@抹茶アイス-m2i]

@@westvillage321 何が言いたいんですか？別に拒絶しているわけではありません。目先のメリットの前に、起こりうるデメリットを考慮すべきだと言っただけです。 マイナス面を最小化する←当たり前なんですけどwそのためにという話をしてるんです。40代のおじさんは私の2倍生きてるのに読解力は学生以下ですね。

[@結野アナ-u9t]

⁠@@westvillage32121歳から言わせてほしい40過ぎの会社員なら分かるでしょ？ヨーロッパ諸国が移民によってどうなったか？パリやロンドンに行って来れば？日本もそうなってほしいの？それとも馬鹿なの？

[@习近平将摧毁中国]

​@@westvillage321歳だけ重ねて偉くなったと勘違いして若者に嫌われる説教したがりオジサンの典型例

[@Hawtload]

I lived there before and personally I wouldn't recommend it unless you already have a remote-job that pays really well, and you come with your spouse. Being single and stuck in Japanese work life is absolutely not what you want to do with your life. Making real friends who aren't foreigners is especially difficult as well.

[@cristianhcm1914]

Being a single guy with money and being stuck in Japan sounds perfect to me. I'll be in Tokyo next year!

[@d0tc0mmie]

I think it’s very dependent on how you are, I’m fairly outgoing in nature so it’s very easy to make Japanese friends in bars/Izakayas or anywhere in the country I think Japan is one of the easiest countries in the world to make friends.

[@cristianhcm1914]

@@d0tc0mmie ..Well said. A confident, outgoing person does well anywhere.

[@earlysda]

@@cristianhcm1914 Depends on what your definition of "friend" is.

[@maegalroammis6020]

the land of common discrimination.

[@lenayashina6777]

I simply can't wrap my mind around the fact that the countries go through such economical ordeals simply because there's less people to take paper pushing jobs. Something doesn't feel right about it.

[@hillarysudeikis2264]

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[@diodelvino3048]

those jobs pay like sh*t for the standard of lifestyle, but for foreingers from poorer countries they'll take the job.

[@hidd3n_]

capitalism baby!

[@elchinoguerito8915]

@@hidd3n_ Its not even just capitalism, its just shortage of labor caused by population and what Japanese college graduate wants to work for low wages in a trade that they have no interest in or has nothing to do what they studied for? You have to remember that Asian societies put a great deal of value into reputation and status, so being a well educated person in a field of work for an uneducated person is humiliating.

[@mb-vf3kn]

@@diodelvino3048 this is a dangerous game because the companys will lower the wages for everyone and if you complain they replace you with a foreigner

[@saitamapose]

Globalism is horrible. I hope that all peoples of the world will remain unchanged and retain their unique cultures.

[@isaacthegoat1432]

Their work culture is why Japan is in a population decline.

[@agrajyadav2951]

Too late

[@scorpiovenator_4736]

Colonization ended that for good

[@mariusmatei2946]

Or, maybe, return to living like in the year 2000 BC?

[@antihero9443]

As a Japanese I will say that our country (=politics and corporations) want foreigners who will work hard, never talk back and get paid below minimum wage.

[@mr.notsonice]

So... Southeast asians... Got it

[@nikolaizaicev9297]

Well, that's probably the number 1 reason why Japan has no future in a case like this. 1. A decaying economy kept alive by printing unbacked credit money. 2. An aging population 3. Declining size of the working population. 4. Monopolization of markets and increasing corruption. 5. Discriminatory policies and imbalance in the distribution of resources 6. Failure to attract immigrants. Hmmm... what could possibly go wrong in the future? Well, kudos and good luck to you.

[@antihero9443]

@@nikolaizaicev9297 1. We should have printed more to break out of the deflation. 2. 2 and 3 are related to 1. 4. Monopolization saves our industries (look at the west, they have been saying that while monopolizing the markets) 5. I don't know what was "discriminatory" 6. Failure to attract immigrants (=low wage wokers) was the way to go. Japan still sucks but still in a better state than the US, EU and the UK. If you are from the west, good luck cleaning up the mess you all have made. No offence but I don't see any future in western nations. Globalism FAILED.

[@nikolaizaicev9297]

@@antihero9443 In what way is Japan in a better state than US, EU or UK? They all including Japan are based on capitalist system, and thereby have mostly the same problems caused by the flaws inbuilt in the capitalist system. The only difference between Japan and them is, that Japan digs even a deeper hole for itself, by ignoring these systemic flaws while US, EU and UK does not and tries to do something against them. While EU, USA and UK will have short-term problems like rising crime rates caused by immigration etc, you will have to deal with the long-term problems (lack of population, lack of jobs, etc). This is the difference that you seem to not understand. I recommend you to read a little bit about System Dynamics and thinking ( Fifth Discipline, The Logic Of Failure: Recognizing And Avoiding Error In Complex Situations, Thinking Fast and Slow, etc) Any capitalist system will die soon or letter, but you can extend its lifespan with immigration. If you don't do that and if you don't replace it with another economy system, your country will just shrink, first economically and then by other means.

[@antihero9443]

@@nikolaizaicev9297 Short term problems...hmmm, I can't agree with that. Do you think the EU and US/UK immigration problem will be short term? They have been struggling with that for over a decade and now they are trying to get rid of the immigrants which I think is impossible. You are mixing corporation policies with national policies. I understand what you are saying but if a system needs a change, you can't just rapidly restructure everything like a corporation can. Plus you seem to not understand that our problem during these 30 years was not due to the lack of the working force but was due to the fact that we were in a deflation state. Which means our supply side was good but there was no demand. EU, US, UK were all in a mild inflation (2%-3%) state.

[@kiranmulik456]

Japan also has to be careful who they are taking in their country..

[@AnirbanGhosh-vo9vs]

For example which ethnicity and religion u talking about

[@Joel86543]

​@@AnirbanGhosh-vo9vsHe's talking about muslims from middle east

[@NicolasHaufe]

​@@AnirbanGhosh-vo9vsmiddle eastern and north african Muslims

[@MushrooMania888]

@@AnirbanGhosh-vo9vsyou should know that.

[@AnirbanGhosh-vo9vs]

@@MushrooMania888 yes and i m also aware who is behnd all trouble wars and disrimination in the world

[@TahoeCo]

日本は別に大国になりたかったわけでも、なりたいわけでもありません。歴史的に日本の文化を守ろうとしたら、力をつけざるを得なかったのです。人口が減少しても、経済力が衰えても、日本として慎ましく、でも末永く存在したいと思っています。 移民に関しても、人種や能力は関係なく、日本の文化が好きでそれを後世へ受け継いで下さる方々ならば嬉しく思います。 多くは求めず慎み深く存在する事が日本にとっての幸せです。

[@neversharpenough]

i hope they keep their immigrations laws strict, i am seeing my country slowly fall apart. we import thousands of immigrants who don't add nothing to the country. don't change Japan.

[@Haryad-11]

You are taking illegal immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers not legal skilled or hard working immigrants

[@coolioso808]

Are you original Japanese people working 12-18 hour days to try and keep your 'economy strong' and the country 'the same'? Newsflash: Monetary-market capitalism isn't sustainable, no matter the country, the city, the people or the region that tries to operate under that system. Maybe this hard truth isn't something you are ready for, but well, you can always ignore it and then hope it 'goes away.' OR, you can embrace it and find ways to create "A Viable Society" like Peter Joseph outlines in his talk on TZMOfficialChannel.

[@nikolaizaicev9297]

Don't add nothing to the country? Google first what a production function is and which factors contribute to it, and after read the book " Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith, books of Taylor and Ford and stop spreading non-sense after that.

[@M_5692c3i]

I can feel this... our company ceo is a japanese and most of our company employees adapts the strictness of the japanese people... and im a filipino living here in philippines, what more if i did live and work there.... they're really super duper strick when it comes to their F***ing policies......i work 12 hrs ... 6 days a week.....i can't even live a healthy lifestyle due to overworking... lack of eat and sleep....well I can endure those things but inside the company??.... you are not allowed to talk even inside of the canteen or any facilities inside the vicinity unless its a work related but nah, the guard will scold you if they caught you talking to others.... no talking policies even at work(well, i get this because you need to focus on work)..... and when the higher ups saw you even a slightest mistake, you will have a somewhat we call 5 why's(you need to ask yourself 5x why's did that certain situation in a form of black and white) and its f***ing annoying... even though you were just working normally. Our working place were really hot because of the machines emits heat, they can't even have a good ventilation system, the leader will say "heat is not a reason for you to stop from working or to even fan yourself"...sorry to vent this out, i won't say the company but its a japanese company here on the philippines and im always thinking "Am i a prisoner".. that's how japanese strictness really are, they seriously need to change the way they implement theyre frickin policies.... that's why some of japanese people commits suicide, putting themselves isolated from others or theyll just die from being lonely.... they need to change those but not all, I really like their culture though.......

[@boyjcmirabel2148]

Wow, this makes me think twice or better many times before going to Japan for a job. Thanks for the information.

[@user-og9nl5mt1b]

Man that sounds hell . Something is wrong with these people

[@coolcobrax]

That's insane!! At least they let us talk here and 12 hour days😢😢 I'm learning so much in this thread

[@maegalroammis6020]

JUST LEAVE

[@user-og9nl5mt1b]

U should post this in r/anti work

[@durveamod]

I am an Indian, and we face racism in almost every country, but i can tell you Japanese people were the nicest people I have ever met. If you ask them one favor, they would do 10 other things as well for you. They are very respectful, I would most definitely want to go there again and if opportunity presents I would definitely love to work in Japan.

[@MsDesiree39]

Many of your pple are also very racist, esp towards blacks and at times whites, don't even try that and making yourselves look innocent when you are not

[@DeadlySashimi]

I'm a Half Japanese living in Australia and I have some pretty good Indian friends, Indians are nice🗿🗿

[@MsDesiree39]

that's cause you're also asian. very simple reason@@DeadlySashimi

[@basse9914]

They were nice because they haven't received swarms of Indians as if they're locusts like in Canada. People do not prefer Indians, and they can't be blamed for such a reasonable opinion.

[@Onetime4justice]

Japan will only change if the people want it to. I've been living in Japan as a foreigner for a few years. People do treat me a bit sifferently, but so long as you work hard to kearn some Japanese then people will help you and you can make some good friends.

[@earlysda]

Even many adult Japanese have few friends.

[@maegalroammis6020]

THATs pathetic

[@technoir-1984]

For centuries Japan has been "closed" to immigration. It's obvious that its society is used to live in this way for so many time. Changing the way of life in a fast manner could be disastrous. A society with different types of people may work in American countries such as USA, Brazil, Colombia, Canada etc because they were forged with people with a diverse origins since their beginning. And this is the opposite of Asian countries. Take an example of Europe, with a lot of countries with problems involved immigration. In this type of society where it was forged for a long time ago, the original people may not get used to live with different people. May not get comfortable with immigrants and might there be a society divided by a lack of integration. Japan is not USA. Japan needs to be aware to not become an "Asian France".

[@gumerzambrano]

Whats an Asian France

[@technoir-1984]

@@gumerzambrano a type of France but in Asia continent.

[@gumerzambrano]

@@technoir-1984 so a more fancy Asia?

[@technoir-1984]

@@gumerzambrano if you think that ghettos, no go zones, beggars and t3rrori$m is fancy...

[@gumerzambrano]

@@technoir-1984 really? I thought France was fancy with their elegant wine

[@waltneitzel4950]

I would like it if Japan would also encourage retirees to spend more time in Japan. They would also add foreign exchange to the economy. The Philippines does that already with it's retirement visa system. I was one of those foreigners who was stationed with the USAF years ago in Japan and I liked it so well that I married a Japanese lady and stayed four years. Up till recent years it was pretty expensive to live in Japan, but now not so much. As long as you don't live in the major cities. Ideal for people who are retired and can enjoy the Japanese countryside which is a more traditional Japan experience. I heard that the countryside in more rural areas are hurting even worse because of the many younger people moving to the big cities where the job opportunities are.

[@BM_100]

No because Japan already has too many old people

[@waltneitzel4950]

@@BM_100 This is just an excuse to remain a homogeneous society without many foreigners. Yes I understand that, but the Japanese old people have to be supported by the government, or family, or whoever. This is a problem. Japan is still stuck in the past with it's policies trying to remain closed to foreigners. It's necessary in the modern Japan to have some foreigners but the attitude is to only have as few as necessary. I spent four years and really understand this homogeneous mind set. Older retirees from other countries bring their own money in and don't need government help. And they don't have to live in the big cities.

[@quangminhpham7919]

@@waltneitzel4950 who you think you are to force them do what you want, stay your country asia dont need people like you in our country, with the way you think, dont go anywhere

[@quangminhpham7919]

@@waltneitzel4950 see US,EU with imigration, with riot, crime no country want to be like that so stop migrate to any country

[@DavidCarloAFermo]

​@@BM_100old people from other countries won't take welfare but will bring in capital to spend within the country.

[@jish55]

A little correction, Japan had a lot of war, but it was against different regions of Japan, with one of the greatest periods in Japanese history being the waring states era (which was a 500 year long period of essentially non stop civil war that was raging throughout the entire country). Before that, there was the two wars against Mongolia.

[@lepearcreatif]

Japan-"No migrants, except from low income undeveloped countries so we can explore them for 5 years and send them back home." And thus was the Special Skill Visa created.

[@Inc.Co.]

I sure hope they do a better job than Europe.

[@scottpilgram696]

Europe has went to fucking shit

[@edilee5909]

That's a given imo. There aren't millions of refugees washing up on their shores every year.

[@tonyt.5771]

Ya, and a shit load of them coming from shit holes.

[@sheezy2526]

@@edilee5909 That were products of USA lead invasions that Europe also were a part of. After destroying multiple countries in the Middle East not sure why everyone is suddenly pulling a surprised Pikachu face.

[@darkcasterx4628]

Europe has a refugee crisis not an immigration crisis

[@KC-io2rg]

Thanks!

[@frequentlyoffline3917]

The Wano arc really was about Japan's isolationist policies.

[@flamani54]

I do not blame the Japanese for protecting their homeland. I wish Ancient Africans had done the same. Why do Westerners think every country must be open to everyone especially when one looks at the mess they brought upon the world? What the Japanese failed to do in my opinion was to work on their population, and birth rate policy, but yes, they are right. It is for them to decide who they want to have in their country as guests or naturalized citizens.

[@pingutune]

japan is an imperialist country, i think it’s what they deserve to have immigrants. maybe don’t destroy other countries and they’ll treat you nicely.

[@zibbitybibbitybop]

I speak fluent Japanese and have always wanted to try living there for a while, but I have zero desire to work myself half to death because of the insane work culture. It's really too bad that the country can't seem to move past that mentality.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Then avoid the office works, open a cafe or something

[@Sagittarius-A-Star]

I envy you for speaking Japanese! As haruyanto says you don't need to be a salary man ( woman? ) - try your own business; I saw a lot of videos about restaurants ( OK, a lot of work too ), food stalls, cafes ( e.g in unstaffed railway stations ), ....

[@watermage25]

​@@Hhhh22222-wrestaraunts and cafes almost all fail in the first year. Its not easy to just open a successful business

[@NrettG]

@@watermage25 Is that the reason why pop up cafes are so popular?

[@maegalroammis6020]

it's really stupid. when a country is lead by insane old men stuck in past, that's how this happen

[@cortezforever]

While the current solution may not be ideal and may not offer long-term effectiveness, it's crucial to address the potential risks associated with an influx of people. Japan, a country known for its innovative solutions, should consider embracing a collaborative approach where the wisdom of the older generation harmoniously integrates with the fresh perspective of the young. By reevaluating the traditional notion of "出る釘は打たれる" (the nail that sticks out gets hammered down) and fostering an environment that encourages open dialogue and adaptation, Japan can unlock new possibilities and find effective solutions. Japan has demonstrated its resilience and problem-solving abilities in the past, and there's no doubt that this can be achieved once again.

[@rolandaustria7926]

It needs to do so with extreme foresight and balance. It is undeniable that the reason with the currently community-centric "Collectivism" has been able to produce such a peaceful orderly society (case in point: Tokyo with its 40 million population) is because people in Japan coexist seamlessly with these complex unspoken rules that maintains it. Cultural concepts aligns with their values of social awareness, empathy, and the overall goal of maintaining harmonious interactions with others. These are concepts that are harder for people from "Individualistic" cultures to accept and live by (case in point: my foreigner coworkers are deliberately disruptive as a protest against Japanese cultures that clash with their own).

[@cortezforever]

@@rolandaustria7926 In regards to "Individualistic" cultures, I agree with your perspective. I believe Japan has a bright future in utilizing robotics and quantum computing, such as the impressive Tesla Bot/Dojo, to aid the elderly and automate certain job functions. While the government subsidizes a younger demographic to balance population and innovation, there is no way for outsiders to resolve this issue. My understanding of the Japanese way has led me to conclude that it deserves an upgrade while still upholding its essential values. How do you think the issues discussed could be resolved?

[@Nowhere-from]

It all sounds great in theory. Nothing-at-all-whatsoever-in-the-least to expect in practice.

[@cortezforever]

@@Nowhere-from If it's a theory, it's just that. What solutions do you have other than gloom?

[@ron5978]

What you wrote is just lots of words not any real solution

[@joshvanderbij4891]

To all foreigners who really want to move to Japan: research every aspect of life in Japan. It's not all sunshine and roses. That said; it will certainly offer you an experience like no other

[@kawaiihikari0]

I just screenshot this 😂 I’m def going to

[@cdn4767]

@@kawaiihikari0yeah, nah. For most countries they have a bad side, you can build a personal utopia here but the tolls it takes will screwed you up bad.

[@cdn4767]

I know, it’s basically “no pain no gain”.

[@donokata]

There are many negative sides to opening up new historic reforms for immigration from foreign countries. 1 ideal one is the so called 'cultural shock'. I am Japanese and I have known this for very long and so foreign workers will realise how much different people work in Japan. I think foreigners are very nice but they will realise how different the culture of work is and it may demoralise the Japanese into working hard for their lives.

[@宇宙中的星星]

加油

[@jamesfoss1627]

Immigration in japan will just lead to people going there as part of 'conquest'. And if they dont get what they want or enough of what they want than expect riots from your new citizens.

[@Scopatone]

It's interesting that people always talk about Japan in regards to birth rate and trouble when South Korea has almost half of Japan's rate.

[@user-jc62a7v28]

South Korea is trying hard to solve this problem(immigration, human rights and workspace improvement etc.) but Japan does nothing.

[@Stevenhufnagel]

Don't know where you get your info from. Foreign workers on a work visa are not immigrants, unless they marry in, which is rare. I know a white European guy who married a Japanese girl and he had a difficult time getting accepted by her family. After 11 years living there he still says it is not an ideal country to settle in. Getting accepted takes a very long time there and even then you will never be fully accepted, you will always be the foreigner. Now imagine any non white person with even greater cultural differences, dark skin color and less able to adapt to the very different cultural norms of Japan.

[@bountyhunter1890]

It's good to see that Japan will be getting its share of astronauts and doctors.

[@sinistercr0347]

past: live for feudal lords now: live for economic growth

[@horos5870]

It's the same exact mechanism

[@idrathernot_2]

Congratulations Japan you're officially screwed

[@seanlennart4740]

nice vid, don’t wanna be that guy but the chapter description “the hermit kingdom” is a bit off because it was the description for Korea coming from a book with that same title

[@xorbe2]

"Let's fix one problem with an even worse problem!"

[@kitnascimento013]

Exactly France and England and then Germany tried that rout with devastating results. The latest riots in France costed billions of euros in property damage and untold social strife. The US who praised itself as a "nation of immigrants" is more and more divided as the immigration increases uncontrolled. The Floyd riots was a tipping point of that social strife

[@geertvlaenckx9942]

Most of those immigrants are from other Asian countries, hence culturally similar. Don't expect riots about criminals being shot any time soon

[@matthewburrow3089]

Japan is not really worth it for a skilled immigrant unless you fill some good paying blue-collar field or specific niche where you have a work-life balance. The other problem is that some of the other fields that need workers also do not pay very well and accustomed to chicanery like keeping the workers at the entry-level or as interns through legal loopholes. Maybe that is changing now, but it does not leave much confidence.

[@66meikou]

I'm a Japanophile Architect who works remotely from my office. I've studied traditional Japanese architecture and joinery as I'm an avid woodworker. I'm 57, my mum is coming onto 81, I don't know how much longer she'll be around. My son is 22 and he's doing his own stuff as a welder. I moved to the US in 2000, if mum goes and boyo's doing his own thing, I have no real reason to stay here. I could move back to the UK which would be fine but the idea of moving into some small village with abandoned houses is appealing. As long as I could get a satellite internet signal, I could still work for my office in the US. I'm owed pensions from both the Uk and the US so I'd not be a drain on Japan's resources apart from healthcare. Refurbish an old farmhouse and go fix things for the locals seems like a great way to retire to me.

[@midlifecrisis7888]

Because Immigration worked out so well for France 😂😂😂😂

[@pedrofaria6236]

agree, if Japan opens they are going to do a big mistake. In Japanese society is even harder to integrate immigrants

[@IR-xy3ij]

The French just love having their culture enriched 😂

[@NightsideOfParadise]

Its The average iq of The immigrants that matters 😂

[@mariusmatei2946]

​@@IR-xy3ijwell, do you?

[@TheOtherBill]

Looking at what is happening in France now and has been happening in Sweden for years, you have to ask if Japan shouldn't go looking for immigrants unless it can get them from countries with societies that have morals close to their own.

[@michaelphillips2079]

That would make too much sense according to France, Sweden, and the US. They'd rather burn in chaos to virtue signal.

[@darkcasterx4628]

That doesn’t really matter, most immigrants can safely assimilate. Also, Europe has a refugee crisis, so their issue is slightly different

[@anchorthesun3438]

@@darkcasterx4628 immigrants do not assimilate , at most they absorb the worst aspects of their respective cultures

[@djnomad1102]

That doesn’t matter. These countries are getting insurmountable benefits from immigration, that’s why practically every country is pro immigration. The world runs on economic prowess. These “issues” are a trade they’d make 10/10 every time.

[@bogdan1213]

@@djnomad1102 the countries with the most welfare/government benefits gets the most immigrants. that's a fact. Japan has to step up welfare programs.

[@Japanimal1992]

The problem isn't moving to Japan, immigration is quite easy, the problem is STAYING in Japan. The cost of living is very high, salaries are very low and haven't changed in 30 years. Even if you speak very fluent Japanese, it is very difficult to get a job outside of English teaching or IT. Simple expected things, like owning a car, is SO expensive. Also Japan is very out-of-date in all technology (aside from public transport). Oh, and you have to put up with every single person you see staring at you like you're a terrifying monster.

[@cristianhcm1914]

As long as the lovely women stare at me ... I'll be happy to be in Japan !

[@excalibro8365]

@@cristianhcm1914 Lol exactly

[@marcosdelvalle2926]

Japan's Parliament passed immigration legislation that further complicates the already strict conditions the country sets for asylum seekers They use the ius sanguinis Only 2 percent of the population is foreigner ( most of them are chinese,korean or brazilians nikkei) So many japanese are just neutral towards the foreigner an they start to get tired (they started to hate the kurds in Saitama) You never speak about the tatemae that japanese use to the foreigners that usually gives false hope to them so the integration is almost impossible Im sorry if my English is bad but im still learning.

[@kellyname5733]

Marcos you are correct about foreigners integrating. The Japanese will never 'really' accept foreigners...maybe in 50+ years it will be better and tatemae will be diminished.

[@nippolitica]

Only 2% don't have Japanese citizenship. 98% do. But Japan doesn't track ethnicity or naturalisation once done. It's a strict binary. Japanese citizen or not Japanese citizen. This is an important factor to consider, because to so many in supposed "immigrant countries" do track these things, which means that non-native Japanese who naturalise are just... Japanese in a way even many hyphenated Americans or Brits or whatever are not.

[@amehwican]

I heard recently heard about the Kurds. Are they bad?

[@nippolitica]

@@amehwican No group is "bad" universally. To think so is discriminatory. There have been recent clashes between Japanese immigrants of Turkish and Kurdish descent due to tensions between those groups historically. I am unqualified to speak about blame, fault, or the history involved. One would hope that all immigrants would leave their own prejudices behind, but human nature is otherwise.

[@marcosdelvalle2926]

They spend time fighting with the local population.

[@Low_commotion]

That's not what "floating world" means. Or rather, it doesn't refer to the difference between Japan and the rest of the world (which the Japanese didn't have much knowledge of during this period, for obvious reasons), but rather the different sense of time in the _pleasure districts_ of feudal Japanese cities vs the rest of society & life. The human experience of time & place are different when you're in a bar or brothel, and that's what "floating world" referred to.

[@Ming1975]

This is the problem with going 1st world, starting a family is not always affordable.

[@JeiBurke]

Yes it is. Its not expensive to have kids. People are having kids in Gaza right now, what is your excuse?

[@JJ-si4qh]

Japan should never change. Do they not learn anything from France, Sweden, and the UK?

[@Steyr32]

Cultural differences gotta be respected 🤷‍♂️

[@kapifromnevada4697]

I respect Japanese culture but Japan is not a perfect culture Japans cultural flaws will soon kill it So it needs to change so Japanese culture can continue to exist and flourish

[@oschits-sentai2127]

@@kapifromnevada4697sometimes honourable death is better than disgraceful life

[@kapifromnevada4697]

@@oschits-sentai2127 extinction of an entire population dose not sound honorable as survival

[@DADRB0B55]

Neocolonialism gonna make them extinct as well, especially if westerns or middle eastern migrants are the main ones coming since they enforce their own garbage culture instead of adopting native unless it’s to be trendy on Tik Tok

[@Lando-kx6so]

10:26 the UK has 15% of it's population made up of foreigners so this is not correct.

[@Merle1987]

This was really vague and didn't specify which type of foreigners they're letting in and why.

[@maddiekits]

I mean the criteria is very vague and not that much has changed basically just skilled labor that the immigration authorities consider in shortage from select Asian countries. Japan still isn't taking refugees in notable numbers making it actually harder to stay. And immigration is still racially selective.

[@user-jt3dw6vv4x]

Firstly, they're all temporary migrants. Nobody is going to be allowed to stay forever. They work for a number of years and then leave, replaced with new temporary migrants. Secondly, all of these foreigners are from select Asian countries only like Vietnam, Philippines, Nepal, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Cambodia, Myanmar etc., basically countries that are culturally compatible with Japan. Most of these countries are predominantly Buddhist and/or influenced by Eastern cultural heritage. "Race/DNA" has no role in selection but for those Westerners who focus so much on genetics, most of these countries are predominantly descendants of ESEA lineages (just like the Japanese) or for some countries are partially descended from another Ancient East Eurasian ancestral lineage (which is distantly shared with the Jomon and modern Japanese). So you can stop the pearl clutching. Finally, the Japanese government has for decades signed special visa agreements with these countries since the 1980s. It's not anything new. Japan follows the same pattern that other Asian countries like Singapore, South Korea and Malaysia follow.

[@Merle1987]

@@user-jt3dw6vv4x I'm not pearl clutching. The video was just vague as hell. Bringing in an ever rotating supply of temporary foreign workers from other Asian countries is worth a shot. As long as there are countries poor enough to send people with no expectation of permanent residency it sounds like a solid plan. Real life is pretty brutal and I don't see any country with a perfect solution to demographic problems.

[@maddiekits]

@@Merle1987 they are considering changing it to allow some to become residents as temporary workers aren't very helpful in addressing the demographics issue.

[@user-jt3dw6vv4x]

@@Merle1987 I'm sorry, I didn't mean you were the one pearl clutching, I should've been more clearer with my words. I was talking about how some people in general react whenever Japan's immigration policy is mentioned. I was speaking generally and wasn't directing it to you or anybody else in this comment section.

[@sirmione905]

I’m Japanese on her 50s. When I was a child, it was rare to see foreigners working at shops/restaurants in Japan, but nowadays it’s pretty common especially in big cities. Many foreigners work at convenience stores, grocery stores, restaurants etc and they speak good Japanese, which has changed my perspective that Japanese language is very difficult to learn for foreigners. I was raised in downtown Tokyo where many expats live in. Back in 80s, they were mostly Westerners and they rarely spoke Japanese. Today, many foreigners living in Japan learn the language so they can communicate with local Japanese people. I think it helped a lot for Japanese people to change their attitude towards foreigners. Even in the US where I live in, some people don’t like immigrants who don’t speak English. In any country in the world, people welcome those who try to learn their language and culture. Since many foreigners do so in Japan these days, I feel Japanese people especially young ones are becoming more open minded for foreigners/immigrants. 😊

[@o-...-.-...-..0473]

In the Britain and the U.S., it's normal for immigrants to be able to speak the language of the country, but there are still many difficulties with integration, culture and values still differ.

[@nonenone2622]

甘いよおっさん 埼玉のクルド人を見ろ

[@Lichenroc]

@@o-...-.-...-..0473I think the difference is that Japanese the language carries so much cultural nuances that makes you want to get to know the culture better. English on the other hand has become the lingua Franca with people learning it even in their own native countries and that cultural transmission isn’t as strong. Also American culture is harder to define than Japanese culture.

[@o-...-.-...-..0473]

@@Lichenroc That used to be true for English as well, at one point only the English really spoke it, but now that everyone speaks it, the cultural nuances as you say, are watered down.

[@afaha2214]

KZbinr paid for views: Japan is opening its immigration Weebs: clicks video gets excited actual japanese: lol nope

[@thelastdefenderofcamelot5623]

victimized countries around the world especially in Europe are taking drastic measures to "preserve" their culture by setting up laws against rude foreigners and banning English when writing documents. yikes!

[@猫サムライ-j8e]

私は日本人です。日本人は何も変わってないですよ。戦前から全く変わってないです。アメリカ人が勝手に自分達が変えたって思ってるだけです。なので誤解が生じるのです。日本は第二次世界大戦前から民主国家で資本主義国家でした。それに働く時間が長いのはサービスが多いからです。その労働はGDPには含まれてません。日本人は働く事は良いことと思っています。尊敬される風潮があります。

[@westvillage321]

労働を無料のサービスとして考える風潮が、少子化の遠因になっている

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

The Japanese should study France . . .

[@mudanenadaara]

Psycho Pass anime was set in a futuristic Japan where they were closed off from the rest of the world. Didn't know this was a real thing

[@oiocha5706]

Even with wide-open immigration, I don't see very many people immigrating to Japan. Wages and economy are stagnant, inflation is high, employment benefits and working hours are generally terrible, and it takes years and money to learn the language. Most immigrants will continue heading for Australia, Canada, America, etc. where all those issues are much better. Japan would be far better off working on fertility and automation

[@edisonuy7707]

Bad move. Japan does not need immigrants. What Japan need is to fix its work culture and policies so the Japanese people can be encourage to create and raise more children.

[@dorsia4167]

Quite the opposite. I feel it’s harder to renew the working visa and Japan just passed a law that allows immigrants to be deported if the cause trouble. But that’s good. Open the doors to immigration, if not with highly selective methods, can be dangerous and causing chaos like in France and most of Europe.

[@voz805]

The narrator states that despite losing a world war, Japan "managed to recover" and started the Japanese miracle. Not to take away the hard work from the Japanese but from 1946-1952 the United States invested $18 Billion - in today's dollars adjusted for inflation - in Japan's reconstruction effort. (US News & World Report) ...since it was pointed out that in the 1850s we started the push to have Japan trade with the West, we didn't forget that Japan is an important country to be partners with.

[@gordonbgraham]

The US has spent 25 Trillion on the war on poverty. America is more impoverished now than it was in 1964 when the war on poverty started. Most certainly do not take away from the hard work of the Japanese...no buts about it

[@earlysda]

@@gordonbgraham gordon shows his snarky, lying, Canadian side. Shame on you!

[@dandefox]

$18B (if that figure is correct ) isn't much when you are talking about economies of that size. The USA has already spent multiples of that amount supporting Ukraine.

[@voz805]

Your tone implies you don’t know much about what the Japanese did during WWII from invading its neighbors in the 1930s to the end of the Pacific War which killed over 30 million people due to Japanese aggression and the unimaginable grisly war crimes they inflicted on soldiers and civilians. Considering that, your comment that $18 billion isn’t much to help them rebuild their country is laughable.@@dandefox

[@gordonbgraham]

@@voz805 Guy, clearly he was referring to how big a role that $18 billion played in Japan's post war economic success. Why the emotional retort that brings up atrocities that have nothing to do with the economy?

[@Jay-hu3ol]

I don't think people realize how much this changes things. For people who live in dirt poor poverty while worrying if their house will be bombed everyday, Japan's work culture is heaven. It sucks but it's true

[@escarretada]

But that people won't afford go to japan anyway...

[@scootinhootin6928]

I don't think Japan will ever let up on immigration. Japan's culture runs deep with uniformity, and a tainting of their Japanese race with gaijin blood is a no go.

[@maximushaughton2404]

I would not say Japan did not do it's own bit of expanding around the 1600, just ask Korea and north China. But the big problem for Japan is it's work life ballance, while they maybe contracted to work 8 hours, but that rarely happens. The norm is around 10-12 hours a day. A thing in Japanese culture is to never go home until the boss does, so you can start at 8am, and your boss can come in at 11 or 12 then stay until 7/8/9pm, and it's not as if you are doing more work than you would doing a 7 hour day. Oh!! and you do not get paid more for working longer hours. So if both partners are are working, when do they have time to have a family. And this will not change by changing it's immigration policy, because the immigrants will be expected to work the same hours, which will lead to the same problem. I know people that have worked in Japan for several years, and they love it there, but left due to the working life. I have also worked for a Japanese manufacturing company, with Japan workers on the shop floor and in the offices. The shop floor workers love working in Europe, as they get so much free time. The office workers will be there at 7am and will always stay until at least 6pm.

[@jmwintenn]

another idiot washing away china and korea's centuries of invading japan.

[@fdpeldfitohsmn2291]

You are either a liar or a fool who is not aware of the status quo at all.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

Japan should do what Europe failed to do: Protect its ethnic heritage.

[@mokhachoka2918]

Not only Europe, so did all the countries that dint fight European invaders e. G. India

[@andrew83654]

There are no any kind of nomad long term visa available, so until they make it or will be just limited to the current policy of attracting a low skilled labor like combini workers etc from ASEAN and India.

[@andrew83654]

So the video is just a "bla bla" unfortunately.

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

So you chose Detroit.

[@tatarcavalry2342]

Don't compare Japan with America because latter is founded by immigrants lol. And about Europe most of the Europe is dumb about it check the Norway Finland Switzerland and Poland all of them are culturally preserved while accepting immigrants you can do both.

[@skp8748]

Isn't detroit a victim of people leaving not coming..?

[@dontaskmewhy266]

@@skp8748leaving of the local educated population and entering of immigrants that have a less valuable skill set

[@0HOON0]

​@@skp8748The people who built Detroit had to flee the effects of immigration on their city.

[@skp8748]

@@dontaskmewhy266 when and why did people leave detroit? When did these less skilled immigrants come? And where from?

[@herohero-fw1vc]

Japan has no immigration policy even today. It only has extendable work visa.......I don't want foreignors.

[@nippolitica]

False. Japan has both Permanent Residency and Naturalised Citizenship, the latter of which is in some ways easier to obtain than the former.

[@saucepoisfosse]

Imagine the amount of people who’s getting to realize it’s not close to as good as they believe

[@Alphabetagamma738]

Japan and it's Beautiful people before accepting any immigrants in Japan please do check their religion Just look at the things happening in Europe now a days

[@12zjesma]

As long as Japan remains mainly focused on work culture like nomikai, family will never be first.

[@gordonbgraham]

Nomikai pretty much died out in the 2000s

[@RelaxEntertainmentTV]

Let me save you from watching this video. The answer is money. Immigrants provide cheap labor. You're welcome, I just saved you 11:24 min of your life. Skip this video

[@LiberTeaBag]

Noooo plz I want to visit pure japan not like Paris on france, london in UK and berlin in Germany

[@ubeastx]

in japan is still more korean chinese thai or filipino mixed couple,but sometime is pakistan or india but in japan is still big pressure to assimilation,in school is still very strict rules without exceptions

[@sarahwashington00]

They just have to chose wisely who they let in 🤷🏾‍♀️ Japanese people are smart. They will never let immigration go out of control they will make immigrants the law im sure.

[@kronicturbo8327]

East Asian , Southeast Asian and central Asian or any yellow people around the world.

[@sarahwashington00]

@@kronicturbo8327 I figured

[@episode6691]

@@kronicturbo8327 very nice, no need for the other types which are icky af.

[@bmona7550]

@@kronicturbo8327Honestly they have already done that but often for foreign students attending their universities (most of those students are known to work part time as cashiers in convenience stores). I really hope to see more of them being hired for more skilled jobs though, a number of them are interested in living there permanently. Just makes me sad it took Japan this long to enforce increased selective immigration.

[@kronicturbo8327]

@@bmona7550 plus nobody can force Japan to force immigration blacks , Muslims or other people

[@kittokitto4284]

Where is the news and official announcements of such changes?

[@a.thales7641]

Stop! Don't do this! Don't destroy your heaven!

[@sybrix]

I have my fingers crossed that they implement a digital nomad/remote work visa in late 2023 as the rumors are stating! I would absolutely move there if their visa restrictions weren't painstakingly impossible for most educated professionals. It would jumpstart the economy for sure.

[@wilkesmcdermid7906]

Digital Nomads would not help at all. Digital Nomads are infamous for not paying taxes. Infact they are a potential net negative if they get sick.

[@Tree_a_Boar]

there is a data scientist called stephen shaw that has been gathering data on birth rates for the past decade, his work indicates that the majority of the world has a below replacement birthrate and that countries like japan and south korea are just the worst examples. to summaries his findings it's not that people didn't want to have kids, they delayed due to economic concerns and ended up missing their fertility window. there is more to it than that i would recommend looking up his work, as it suggest hard times ahead for the majority of people.

[@Mojavekight17]

The working culture in japan is the main problem

[@BubbyBold]

Work culture of Japan is an abomination in nearly every regard.

[@ektherising]

Work environment in Japan has significantly improved over last 20 years.

[@kapifromnevada4697]

@@ektherisingso why stop there If we want to live in a better world We need the drive to improve It takes all of us to better Japan But action from Japanese people itself will be important Don’t lose hope brothers

[@kapifromnevada4697]

@SebastienZarateC agreed but there might be more factors that I’m unaware of but are important to creating a better future

[@kapifromnevada4697]

@SebastienZarateC then how are we supposed you solve the decline in population and the social problems if "we can't change" I personally think some kind of changes while being rational and open minded to preserveing the past.

[@HeronPoint2021]

I think westerners get a distorted experience with travelling Japanese, usually very young, and adventurous. Now go to Japan and meet the culture itself and all the other population that has little desire to travel/experience. It's like me moving from Canada to Arkansas......during segregation in the fifties.

[@jose131991]

Lol 😂

[@Lichenroc]

@@jose131991Yeah except Japan’s infrastructure is ten times the quality than anything in AR.

[@shunkasyuto]

Foreigners do not have to worry about Japan's population problem. Please leave us alone. And the majority of Japanese are adamantly opposed to expanding the acceptance of foreign workers. All Japan needs is Japanese. There is no meaning in increasing the population through immigration

[@gon2soku273]

Exactly.

[@Akiyama_Shun]

Immigration is not the answer: answer is let Japanese people to have kids. Job stability, job salary, subsidies that helps people to live. I am a foreigner and I think a massive foreigner immigration is the worst solution ever. it doesn't change the fact that people can't live well. or do this “immigration thing” want foreigners to do very low-paid jobs?

[@BeiClass]

Another problem that is being overlooked is some Japanese nationals starting to migrate as well. This will probably accelerate this population crisis sooner or later.

[@meganoobbg3387]

They won't - their foreign language education is terrible, cuz they don't have good teachers. And not to mention alot of japanese people are taught from young to fear foreigners or foreing things, or even hate them. Besides - just like any other country, its pretty damn hard moving to another country where you don't have guaranteed shelter or work.

[@fromYAHUSHAreborn91]

Really? To where?

[@ultrakoichi]

@@fromYAHUSHAreborn91 They are already moving to countries like Australia because wages and life style is better than Japan.

[@Martumal]

Japan is about to get "Culturally enriched" lmaoo RIP, Abe.