Why Jim Knowles left Ohio State for Penn State | The BIG College Football Show

[@buckeyetater7540]

If Penn State wants a title they are going to need a Head Coach.

[@ethanwhite6440]

And wide receivers

[@greymattermatters404]

yes, it was his stupidity that gave ND the shot at the Natty

[@kirbyhilyard9841]

And an offense/offensive coordinator that utilizes wide receivers

[@JeffreyLeohner]

Franklin has alway’s been overrated, and Knowles is not going to have the same elite athletes that he had at Ohio State, so I think he won’t be as successful at Penn State, as he was in Columbus! Ohio State will beat Penn State again, in Columbus in 2025! ❤️🌰🏈

[@WorldPatrioitCSA]

and a university not out in the boonies

[@johnbochenek5526]

Four of the six losses in the Knowles era at Ohio State were defensive failures in big games. Thirty plus points given up to Michigan and Oregon, 40+ points to Michigan and Georgia. He fared much better after the Oregon loss and a couple weeks working on things with Ryan Day. After that he became less conservative in his game calling and therefore made better use of his athletes.

[@buckeyetater7540]

@@johnbochenek5526 he sure had the athletes. He wasted them for 2 straight years. I’m not gonna miss him. Thanks that was a great post

[@drm9979]

other people are saying that he was kept from truly implementing his scheme by resistance from DL coach Johnson, and after Oregon, he was given full control of the defense. makes more sense honestly, yet somehow coincides, since Johnson (it is said) likes four down linemen.

[@robroman1773]

I cannot help feeling disrespected by Jim K. As he’s gone to Penn state.

[@mikeposey7358]

Coaches come and go, see ya good luck

[@shiwakuseven5859]

It isn't Jim Knowles that Penn State needs. Instead, it is Ohio State's Co-Offensive Coordinator and Wide Receivers Coach Brian Hartline.

[@chrislane3228]

@shiwakuseven5859 Everyone thinks that Kotelnicki is some genius because of his success at Kansas. Most people praise him for his first year with State College, too. I agree with you completely. They did need a DC, though. They did well.

[@everettballou4640]

Yeah,agreed. He AND Larry Johnson are two of the best assistants in all the land. I’m not sure,HOWEVER if Coach Johnson has the overall capability and capacity to be DC then he’s THE Man!

[@michaelgillette6123]

Best damn COACH in the land! We are the Champions!!!

[@SteveAllen-x2m]

😂

[@bkalldaybkallday8296]

Everyone is talking about this and have no clue what happened in that building

[@bladeshred01]

The clock has officially started for James Franklin 🤣

[@Laxalis77]

Knowles looks better on Penn State than Ohio State, good luck to him, bucks will beat him next season in Columbus

[@buckeyetater7540]

We are over it. Move on. Go Bucks.

[@greymattermatters404]

well duh... to take another position, quitting would be the natural order of things

[@markrimelspach7041]

You all are just guessing on everything from asking him to stay away from the celebration to the friction with coaches. He didn't want to be here for whatever reason so he left. Time for someone else who wants to be here to step up.

[@buckeyetater7540]

@@markrimelspach7041 It sounds like the “bumping heads” is being widely reported. He must have hated it at OSU. Why else would he take a lesser job ? I know I wouldn’t. I think Ryan and Larry are so tight after a long term relation and Knowles was a gruff son of a gun.

[@TonyG-nv2km]

I 100% agree with Josh’s take about PSU’s defense. I watched several of their games this year, and IMO it was the best defense I have seen them field in a long time. PSU’s issues were the other side of the ball. They had no receivers who could stretch the field. Warren was a stud, but if they were not on schedule offensively they were in trouble. Also, it took Knowles three years to build our defense. Good luck PSU. If Franklin doesn’t win this year, he’ll need to buff up his resume.

[@Jayis100]

It had to be personal. He wants to go to the enemy and try and knock the bucks off the top. Ryan day going hands on with the defense after the Oregon game, and his beef with LJ… PS: a peewee coach could have dominated with that defensive talent

[@mikehouse7066]

I think Knowles wants to run the 3-5-3 defense that he ran at Okie State. Will be interesting to see it against the better teams.

[@RoLPeace]

I think so too. He tried to use Jack Sawyer in the so called Jack position and it was a failure.

[@larryvet53]

I would go after Oregon's defensive guy. Everyone copied them after they beat Ohio State. It's easy to be a great defensive coach when you have the best players.

[@buckeyetater7540]

@@larryvet53 It didn’t work out so good for Oregon in the long run.

[@goducks32]

@@buckeyetater7540 1 bad game doesnt change everything

[@DavidsonFootball1]

Why would anyone copy Oregon's defense after either of their games against OSU? They were Howard's two highest yardage games and two of the best OSU yards per play games of the year. The question going into the Rose Bowl wasn't whether OSU could handle Oregon's defense - they did fine the first time and even Penn State torched them - it was whether OSU could handle Oregon's offense.

[@charleshowardiv]

James Franklin remains the biggest problem...

[@davidedwards7984]

You guys have no idea about Jim Knowles leaving. He quit!

[@stephenmoist623]

HE AND LJ DONT GET ALONG !!!!

[@WaltPSU007]

Jim Knowles helps recruiting, keeps things consistent... it's not about next season, it's about the future.

[@cobra4642]

Next season is the future dummy

[@deangood6682]

he is not a great recruiter, and it will take at least 2 or 3 years to get the players to run his d. OSU had several rough patches on that side of the ball . good luck tho

[@fanman71]

There was a noticeable dropoff this year from Manny Diaz to Tom Allen. While they were still very good, people just wanted the more aggressive scheme that Diaz had. Knowles brings that to a certain extent, more aggressive defense creating turnovers.

[@greggart1]

Penn State had a cake walk draw in the playoff. Same question every year for them until they can prove they can beat a quality team. Their offense and QB play stinks.

[@johnhaversack1634]

As much as Buckeye fan hates Penn State..this is a big deal..they FINALLY got one of your guys..too bad Franklin is there or PSU would be right there with you for conference titles.

[@danturner7060]

OSU doesn’t rebuild. It reloads.

[@toddfortune3480]

As a Michigan fan I say keep it up. Something about working for Ryan Day does not fit. More departures to follow.

[@dougmorris5625]

Having only one person ( tight end) who could catch the football cost Penn State a trip to the championship game.

[@jgdwick4067]

It’s because of the PLAYERS NOT HIM!!!!

[@Superfreq69]

Jim Knowles made OSU the #1 Defense in CFB. He won a Natty. where's he going to go from there? he doesn't want a Head Coaching job.. he like to build a program's Defense. I wish Jim the best! he was great for us

[@buckeyetater7540]

@@Superfreq69 I’m under the belief that our defense (the players) made us the best defense.

[@johnthierwechter1875]

You guys fail to mention that not only did Penn State fill a need. It takes away one of your chief opponent’s biggest assets.

[@greenie43]

He knows they should be investigated!!!

[@everettballou4640]

😂😂😂

[@bobwhite2]

Day is quite religious.

[@fdbb824]

Don't care ,doesn't matter what he says it's all about the money, OSU doesn't need him!! GG BUCKS!!

[@bryanlowe3346]

Is Drew Allar still starting next year and James Franklin the coach? Then who cares, they'll still screw it up when it matters.

[@patriotjones8584]

Day and Larry Johnson made knowles change a lot after that oregon loss it wasnt all knowles. Knowles is a my way or the highway boomer, and he took the highway cause everyone basically told him your shit aint working. He cost us a lot of game in 4 years

[@chrislane3228]

So... Ohio State asked Knowles to stay away from the celebration? Is that true? The hire was great for State College. They needed a DC. They needed a good DC. I just need to know if Knowles was asked to stay away from the celebration. It will mean a lot to me. Right now, I'm pissed at Knowles.

[@buckeyetater7540]

@@chrislane3228 I highly doubt Knowles wanted to go after everyone that mattered knew he was leaving. It was best he wasn’t there.

[@chrislane3228]

@buckeyetater7540 Ok... I'm trying to figure out whether or not I just hate him now. I do truly always understand the extra money, though.

[@BSTPDeCon]

He reached out to PSU the day after winning the nati and took the job PRIOR TO the celebration. As he was no longer an OSU staffer, he was told he cannot attend the celebration. You can hate him now.

[@deangood6682]

he was leaving because he was butthurt. so no need to be around. didn't even let players know so that tells you something I think.

[@greymattermatters404]

one word: MONEY

[@WorldPatrioitCSA]

Penn State has the most CEO and money in the NCAA, he went for the money

[@rah2209]

That’s an INSANE amount of money!!!! Theres No one worth that much or any job.

[@golfcoursemanager33]

and he wasn't even that great until the third year! He's not going to have the talent level at PSU that he did OSU. No offence but that's just reality.

[@kennethchapman9564]

The Buckeyes defense in 2019 were great with Larry Johnson and Jeff Hafley working well together. When Larry Johnson has more input the defense gets sacks and lots of TFL and the line puts numerous players in the NFL. Penn State doesn't have a LJ, the do however have a Jim Knowles who they are paying the max for.

[@douglashall2141]

I'm not happy with it at all. I believe maybe Jim Knowles wanted to leave that's okay. But you don't do it to arrival. The one thing that would have been worse would if he went to michigan. But this is just totally wrong, and I believe he did it for the money and to be able to beat Ohio State to say he's the best. He's arrogant I knew that before Ohio State got him. But I can't take anything away from him on his coaching ability he is mighty good. But I don't think it's going to help Penn State next year much but the following year Penn State will probably have the best defense in the country and probably win the national title that is their goal when is the goal of every college team and should be. And I'm more concerned now of the Buckeyes and what they do for a DC

[@highnoon116]

13-10 ….forever!

[@everettballou4640]

90% of your football and hockey titles before 1960 forever!!!😂😂😂if not 95%

[@johnhaversack1634]

Now if PSU could only let Buckeye fan get rid of Ryan Day..PSU would replace Franklin with him in a heartbeat. Keep it up Buckeye fan..help us out.

[@jgdwick4067]

He’s done seeeee yaaaaaa…….get out old news!

[@WorldPatrioitCSA]

Knowles defensive philosophy..." we can give up 3 or four explosive plays per game"...bye bye mr knowles

[@ohmymym3231]

Knowles was an oddball at OkState… No surprise from Cowboys he’s leaving Buckeye. Dude has control issues, not hard to see

[@rickh8093]

💰

[@buckeyetater7540]

A million miles isn’t close and that’s how far Penn State was from a Natty.

[@buckeyetater7540]

We shouldn’t have had one much less two terrible games. One was the defenses fault (Oregon) and. One was the offenses fault ❌Ichigan. With their roster their closest game should have been Texas.

[@13kimosabi13]

Day hired Knowles to implement his specific defensive system => then he didn’t get involved for 2.5 years while Larry Johnson refused to cooperate and basically prevented Jim from elevating Ohio State to an elite, championship caliber defense until the last part of his 3rd season. Johnson was at fault and deserved to be let go but Day was SOFT and did nothing for years. Day & Johnson both deserve bitchslaps. Larry needs to retire.

[@deangood6682]

it took getting the right players to run his scheme. Buckeyes found that out the hard way. it's takes time and the right personal to go with that many safties. he was salty that there we disagreements amongst the staff. but good luck to him. we will expose that d in cbus next year. GO BUCKS!

[@brianhoffman9122]

OSU can say thank you to Michigan. Why Michigan slapped the shit out of them and woke them up😂😂😂 GO BLUE Congrats I still hate you

[@everettballou4640]

Well..95%? of your football AND hockey titles came before 1960..so congratulations,you guys dominate the physical sports lol..and the feeling is mutual

[@buckeyetater7540]

PSU should not ever think it’s Natty or Bust. Talk about disappointment every single year. I hope that put that kind of pressure on themselves. If I had to pick a Big10 Champ I’m picking Oregon again. Penn State will lose in the playoff again.

[@briananderson9650]

We don’t need him😂😂😂 he must want few extra dollars cuz he not winning anything theee😂

[@stephenmoist623]

OSU BOUGHT A NC !!!

[@donnagreene7766]

Get Real and go home.

[@buckeyetater7540]

That silliness is getting old. If that was the case Oregon or Texas would have beaten Ohio State they spent more. They didn’t buy a team they invested in 4 players so stop it u dummy.

[@danturner7060]

Stupid opinion. There were many teams who paid the same and more and didn’t make the final brackets. Get over your lame self.

[@Trollinskyy]

For less than TX and beat em😂😂

[@Trollinskyy]

No kid outside of MI wants to be a wolverine, everyone wants to be a Buckeye

[@danturner7060]

If losing Jim Knowles ruins the chemistry of OSU then how does PSU buying Knowles and swapping out a current established Def CO possibly make sense? I get it-Knowles has a personality conflict. Probably started with the Oregon game. He had been riding his laurels and then they lost due to feckless defense issues. But if switching isn’t good for OSU it’s hard to see it being good for PSU and for similar reasons.

[@danturner7060]

If losing Jim Knowles ruins the chemistry of OSU then how does PSU buying Knowles and swapping out a current established Def CO possibly make sense? I get it-Knowles has a personality conflict. Probably started with the Oregon game. He had been riding his laurels and then they lost due to feckless defense issues. But if switching isn’t good for OSU it’s hard to see it being good for PSU and for similar reasons.

[@deangood6682]

Tom Allen left so job was open.