Why Kung Fu Panda 3 (Was) A Great Finale

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Daniel give me coffee

[@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0]

Ok

[@luridityy]

schaffrillas pls review the iron giant

[@mrnonameyt]

E

[@RandomguyfromtheinternetN1]

NO SKILLSHARE?! WHAT KIND OF SICK JOKE IS THIS?!

[@traviswhitfield8045]

KFP 1 - Accepting your present KFP 2 - Accepting your past KFP 3 - Accepting your future KFP 4 - 😕

[@ParkerCS2]

Exactly sums up franchise

[@historicflame972]

Accepting bad sequels

[@theggamer2824]

Accepting your Change.

[@lianneroban9906]

KFP 4 - Accepting your height

[@Antasma1]

The Xenoblade trilogy does the same thing

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

7/10 rating(s) is GOOD, the fact that people to this day think its the definition of ''mid'' bothers me

[@GaryTDA]

Imo “mid” is just around 5 as its the perfect rating for something that isnt good but has some good points here and there but overall isnt worth your time.

[@megastarwarsrocks99]

You’re just like that guy who just posted the ign bashing video

[@deleetiusproductions3497]

Yeah. Ideally, scoring from 1 to 10 should work something like this: 10/10: Masterpiece 9/10: Excellent 8/10: Great 7/10: Good 6/10: Decent 5/10: Mid 4/10: Bad 3/10: Subpar 2/10: Poor 1/10: Worthless (admittedly this is not perfect)

[@DORAisD34D]

James called Kung Fu Panda 4 bad but he gave it a 5

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

ratings change after the first viewing

[@AverageInternetButterfly]

It feels kinda odd how Kung Fu Panda 3 genuinely feels like it concluded Po's journey as a character with how it further emphasizes what makes him a Dragon Warrior, but the fourth film low key feels like a tv movie

[@10yearsspinning]

Po in the third movie was learning to be who he is, than this movie says he has to be more than himself

[@SecretMagician]

As I said in another comment, if KF4 had a 15-20 year timeskip, giving Po and the Furious Five older designs with Shifu, Li Shan, and Mr. Ping either dead or very old, with Po and the Furious Five looking for new students to replace all 6 of them as being the new Dragon Warrior and the new Furious Five, with Po and the FF as the Spiritual leader and Grandmasters of the Valley of Peace, like Oogway and Shifu, respectively, KFP4 could have been a good in-between greatness from 1 and 2, instead of the pretty good vibes of 3 and the severe mediocrity of the actual 4th film.

[@JWeb66]

1st film: learning who he must be. 2nd film: learning who he was. 3rd film: learning who he is.

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

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[@lewisbirkett4428]

After the first they're all bad, getting steadily worse

[@reimardahlstrom4765]

I think that Kai being kind of underdeveloped as a character makes sense. He isnt someone were supposed to sympathize with, he is the final challenge for Po, an unstoppable force whos motivations boil down to bitter resentment. hes not a character whos misunderstood, hes a monster, and that is fine.

[@ParkerCS2]

Yes. Exactly. Also Kai had some reason to why he was doing what he was doing. He felt betrayed by his best friend and also hated that his prior glory as warrior and hero of China was wiped from record due to his selfish action towards getting addicted to chi to the point of harming innocent life, that he sought to destroy everything oogway built as payback. Definitely not sympathetic, but he wasn’t just a generic bad guy unlike the chameleon. I compare Kai to someone like Jack Horner or Pitch Black. Someone who has reasons for doing bad things but isn’t sympathetic at all and is still pure evil.

[@Depth217]

Yeah I feel like you can still have villains without deeper or tragic backstories, and are just complete monsters. Jack Horner, Hades, Palpatine.

[@Abner-gu3ve]

Also not every villain needs to be developed to be a good villain. Simple villains can work just fine. Also Kai’s a centuries old war general who only knows war and nothing else, he grew up in simplistic times with a simplistic mindset that he refused to change. That’s fine

[@KraylebStudios]

It would have been a lot better if he was treated less as a joke though just for him to be far more threatening

[@Abner-gu3ve]

@@KraylebStudios how was Kai treated as a joke? The only “joke” was that people don’t remember Kai due to Oogway erasing his legacy. And that alone doesn’t devalue him as a threat

[@eclipsicalbluestocking1182]

I appreciate that they didn't force a romance between Po and the ribbon girl

[@ParkerCS2]

Exactly me too

[@ToldenSandwhich-b6f]

Or just any forced romance in the series

[@Ilikenoodles12]

@@ToldenSandwhich-b6f especially tigress she can do well without anyone really

[@egg_bun_]

Fucking SAME. it was a relief

[@toad7395]

@@Ilikenoodles12 Not making tigress a love interest is something 99% of modern movies would never do.

[@turbobist2889]

I love how this movie says blood family and found family are both great. I love it when media doesn't say if one is better than the other, because both is good.

[@UltimateDespairado]

Gee if only Fire Emblem Fates could do that message great. I feel like that is one of the reasons why people say Fire Emblem Fates is a bad game.

[@davitucsonn2243]

a lot of things are good, i kinda hate comparisons when they are trying to indicate something nowhere poor is below the (by that guy's opinion) "better", maybe its just my way to see it, but this just causes a lot of drama and debate because people really get indulged in trying to change that guys mind that the "bad" is "better" instead of both being great, a debate that shouldn't even exist, then both parties keep the cycle because theyre biased or not satisfied with the end result of the opponent still liking his personal opinion more, i dont really hate this with every cell in my body because i can easily ignore it but it hurts to glance over because you always know whats gonna happen and you find that same thing happening everywhere

[@UltimateDespairado]

@@davitucsonn2243 Okay, can you maybe say it in a short sentence? I have a short attention span 8-p

[@HandOn-c40009]

​@@UltimateDespairadothat is not the reason why people think fire emlem fates is bad, the reason people think it's bad is because it's trying to tell a complex story and theme and not really doing a good job at it.

[@OrionDawn15]

@@HandOn-c40009 So in other words, what the guy said?

[@jackiehouse6019]

Po's two fathers might legitimately be my favorite characters in the series, they work so well together.

[@HowDoYouTurnThisOn_]

Ah yes, Edgar Allan Poe, Kung Fu Panda's beloved main character

[@bighillraft]

the fourth movie kind of ruins them though, just like everything else in the fourth movie

[@randomsamurai3855]

They are the ONLY good part of the 4th movie

[@GreenKnight07]

Whenever they Say the line "Double Dad Combination" and start to fight Schi-fu together i Always have a smile on my face since it makes me happy to see them Just working Together instead of arguing

[@leithaziz2716]

DOUBLE DAD DEFENSE! Poe's dads is one of the most inspiring portrayals of two caretakers learning to settle their differences to embrace their love of their son.

[@FrostedPoke]

...Where's the SquareSpace ad? HOW CAN I ENJOY MY SCHAFFRILLAS WITHOUT MY SQUARESPACE AD?!

[@therealglosetik]

N-NOT EVEN SURFSHARK?! WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THE REAL SCHAFFRILLAS?!

[@TheVercci]

WHO DENIED ME MY DESTINY?

[@nezaniatoimya]

When his video starts i always instinctively say "Funding for Schaffrillas is provided by... SquareSpace" in unison with him But today, Funding for Schaffrillas is provided by... SqareSp- SEAT GEEK??? WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY

[@captainluma7991]

Did you ever ONCE think of the viewer? You call yourself a film critic?! WELL I AIN'T BUYING!

[@neurodivergent_shark]

@@nezaniatoimyaOMG SAME

[@DanGamingFan2406]

He may not have as much depth as the first two, but I love Kai as a villain. He's powerful, intimidating, his theme goes so hard, and J.K. Simmons is so good in the role.

[@Abner-gu3ve]

What Kai lacks in depth he makes up for in being a straightforward dangerous villain with a simple but massive motive rooted in greed. He’s an unstoppable force and he came the closest to defeating Po

[@JPKpretzelz]

⁠@@Abner-gu3veTo be honest he’s the only one of the three villains to pose a legitimate threat to Po at all. Tai Lung couldn’t damage him, Shen was seriously outmatched in skill and strength. Kai was the only one both physically stronger and more skilful than Po, and beat him even after his training during the film.

[@Abner-gu3ve]

@@JPKpretzelz true. What he lacks in depth he makes up for in being the most threatening

[@audreyglass3125]

Fun fact: Kai's theme includes a sample from the Imagine Dragons song I'm So Sorry.

[@Galgus2000]

@@JPKpretzelz Tai Lung pretty much beat Po, then got disoriented when the thing he thought would bring him fulfillment turned out to be "nothing" and lost when he recklessly attacked. Shen would have outright won if he didn't release the Soothsayer, who healed Po. Shen was giving Po a good fight in the end, with speed over strength, but his real power was psychological manipulation. Kai was just a juggernaut, though. The whole movie has a great tension that Kai is coming, and that Po needs to grow into his role as teacher to stand a chance.

[@scipion3679]

In defense to Kai, apparently Oogway was also a conquering warlord and his brother-in-arms. It's less that Kai turned evil and more Oogway that turned good when discovering Chi, "betraying" Kai in the process. With that said, I agree that Kai would have benefited from more development on his backstory to be as compelling as the legends that are Shen and Tai Lung.

[@ParkerCS2]

Also Kai’s reputation as a warrior and hero for China was erased from history due to his selfish actions towards sentient life stealing chi from life, thus was trying to destroy everything oogway built as revenge. He wasn’t necessarily a generic villain. He had layers, but he just wasn’t given enough fleshing out.

[@bruschetta7711]

In a time as old as that i wouldn't think being a warlord is necessairily a bad thing, he's a turtle and probably lived through a time of constant conflict between various Clans and whatnot

[@evanholloway1692]

Oogway was always the wisest of all Kung Fu. Kai became the polar opposite when he found out how to take chi.

[@snowball2280]

Additionally, since Kai and Oogway were blood brothers (as in brothers forged through bloodshed on the battlefield; blood is thicker than water and all that), and Oogway was nearly killed on the battlefield, from Kai's prospective it was his lack of power that led to the possibility of danger arising and not that he was unable to build up anything and only could destroy. When he saw Oogway become more passive, he saw him become weaker, since to him not being aggressive is weakness (cause on a battlefield, striking first is almost always best) and saw him endangering himself. He couldn't understand how his friend had been so poisoned other than the panda's being the cause, so no pandas Oogway will be back to normal right? no obv, but that's not the mindset of a warlord who rules with overwhelming power But yeah, there was no screen time for any of this, and no real substantial development

[@sev1120]

​@@ParkerCS2 it would've been so cool if Po started nerding out about Kai mid-fight about when Kai used certain moves in the past, with nobody else understanding what he's talking about. We know Po is a massive fanboy of Kung Fu, so him being the only main character to know about Kai would make sense

[@Haminator343]

"funding for schaffrillas is provided by SEATGEEK!" that was such a jumpscare! i was expecting squarespace or something

[@uiopuiop3472]

whats a seatgeek

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[@grammy_hnng]

it feels unnatural to hear his voice say something else

[@captaincrazycreative]

AND HE WNDED THE VIDEO WITH GOODNIGHT VALLEY OF PEACE??? What is the world coming to???

[@cloudshines812]

KFP 1 - Believe in yourself KFP 2 - Don’t let your trauma define you KFP 3 - Find your spirit even when all is lost KFP 4 - Don’t be short Edit: Guys, the “don’t be short” thing is a joke lol. KFP 4 is just super average

[@liamphibia]

Meanwhile Mantis, Viper, and the other short Kung Fu Masters are right there.

[@makinyoumad9498]

ChatGPT hey

[@paperluigi6132]

Mantis in the first one even has a line that completely shuts down KFP4.

[@BookBuddy7]

KP4 should have been “It’s time to move on”

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

The writers kinda forgot about Mantis

[@Shrubbee]

They should have just made a spin-off movie with Tigress instead of Kung Fu Panda 4. Like how they did with Puss In Boots.

[@ThePrincessCH]

I think "Secrets of the Scroll" already did that.

[@cobbletarts]

@@ThePrincessCH They should have continued with the lore of that though as Tigress accidentally read Po's potential careers list instead of the actual Kung Fu Masters list. A cleaner, a comedian, a dancer, a doctor, and an emperor. Like, there was potential past lore for Tigress there, no? Also, the Ti-Po shippers might go wild for this if they haven't already.

[@DriverHenryWho3245]

@@cobbletarts​​⁠they ship them? Of course. I now wish we saw tiger-panda hybrid babies in Kung Fu panda 4

[@ThePrincessCH]

@@cobbletarts The point of that short was to question if the Furious Five gathering was an accident or destiny. It's meant to be ambiguous.

[@jadesapphira4325]

I want a movie where Tigress constantly fumbles every girl she tries to pick up at a lesbian bar

[@SilverFoxR]

There's a small layer to Kai's motivation I feel like he doesn't outright say, but does heavily imply with his dialogue that may infer to what he really wanted originally. In almost every encounter Kai has, he seems to be increasingly frustrated that nobody knows who he is. It's been a long time since he's been alive and, while Oogway has statues and is generally loved, Kai, who was his "brother" for most of their lives has been completely forgotten. Kai has been buried by the flow of time and I believe what Kai ultimately wanted (whether he knew it or not) was to leave his mark on history... that he would be remembered... and that never happened. It's why when Po actually acknowledges Kai's history that his anger subsides even for a moment and he seems actually happy. While not being as obvious as the other villains, Kai's real issue was a feeling of insecurity and that he wanted people to know of him. He wanted to be a legend. He did not want to be a forgotten memory.

[@norsehorse84]

On top of this, Kai's intention mirrors what Po wants in KFP3. To leave a legacy. He perfectly fits the theme of this particular movie. I still stand by Kai being a far better villain thematically than most people give him credit for.

[@addictedtofauna3838]

@@norsehorse84 Not to mention his backstory does the same, him not changing with Oogway from the warlord days after seeing the pandas and instead resenting Oogway for attacking him and painting himself as a monk parallels Po’s other conflict of not wanting anything to change, he wanted his identity to stay the same but Po eventually realises that you can simply find your identity through your natural actions rather than just forcing it to be a certain way and that’s all that matters.

[@NickAndriadze]

I wholeheartedly agree, being such a renowned master and also being completely ignored by all of history must sting, I can relate with the need of wanting to be remembered by the history books as well.

[@ryanscanlon2151]

It's an overlooked detail but Po was also slowly learning to use Chi through all 3 movies. He figures out the wooshi finger hold in the first movie, the second movie he uses chi to redirect the canon balls (it's not stated outright but the fact the balls change color to what chi looks like in 3 and what the wooshi finger hold explosion looks like in the first.)

[@RedoStone35]

Ah yes, "Why Kung Fu Panda 3 A Great Finale"

[@ElitheSnowFox]

Lmao

[@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0]

(Was)

[@Wm7forthewin]

it certainly a great finale

[@bluedye4068]

So cool the series ended without a trash movie in its roster

[@LeastInsaneUtsu-PFan]

Truly one of the great finale of all time

[@winter.soldier721]

FUN FACT: Kai’s theme is a version of the song “I’m So Sorry” by Imagine Dragons that the band actually helped Hans Zimmer make!! i see so many people who praise the music in this film who aren’t aware of that info. i remember seeing Kai’s intro scene in the theater the first time i watched KP3 and kinda freaking out cuz i IMMEDIATELY recognized the melody lol

[@adamkramer9080]

Oh my gosh I never noticed 😱😱😱

[@adamkramer9080]

That's actually so cool

[@thegamingprozone1941]

The first time I heard that song was in Battlefield Hardline 😂

[@_JustAnotherGhost_]

And Kai's theme is such a BANGER

[@luckystark101]

OH MY GOD YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND I LOVE IMAGINE DRAGONS

[@mix3k818]

Wish it still was the finale. Dreamworks had once again proven that they can be really hit or miss when it comes to sequels and movies in general.

[@nemi9217]

We can technically still count it as a finale, Kung Fu Panda was always planned to have two trilogies.. So this can be the finale of the first trilogy and the first saga. Or we can also just pretend that Kung Fu Panda 4 just doesn’t exist!

[@arrowentertainment8739]

Idk if we are even having KFP 5 and 6 But for now....Only one trilogy exists​@@nemi9217

[@schwarz8614]

⁠@@nemi9217 there will be 2 more Kung fu Panda movies?

[@nemi9217]

@@schwarz8614 yep, been the plan since they started working on KFP 2

[@evanholloway1692]

If Kung Fu Panda 3 was the final part of the story, where would Po meet Zhen. When would the Chameleon bring back all the worst people that threaten Kung Fu just to extract their powers?

[@Operager]

The KFP series was perfect as a trilogy, all had an important lesson KFP 1 - Believing in yourself KFP 2 - Discovering yourself KFP 3 - Mastering yourself And all the villains challenged Po in the one of the 3 ways of martial arts training Tai Lung - Po's physical test, trained the body Lord Shen - Po's mental test, trained the mind Kai - Po's spiritual test, trained the spirt Then the 4th movie was just an unnecessary cash grab

[@ParkerCS2]

A tv movie with a budget describes that terrible 4th film

[@kingofchaos5672]

The fourth movie was the audience’s patience test

[@Operager]

@@kingofchaos5672 agreed

[@turkey4802]

Is*

[@SenGaming-105]

Chameleon - Our patience test, trained the, uhh, nothing actually

[@Ralph_ralphster]

To quote a KZbinr: it’s like Star Wars. First one is an epic origin and a classic. Second is a lot darker, the fan favorite, and the main characters learns about their family. (Luke I am your father, po learns from Shen) finally the last one is slower, spends time in a grass land with cute cuddly creatures and elan epic finale that makes up for it all.

[@UltimateDespairado]

And just like Star Wars It all goes downhill from here

[@rivershen8199]

@@UltimateDespairado I'd argue Kung Fu Panda 4 is even more of an insult than Episode 1, because Kung Fu Panda 4 actively destroyed all the progress that was made in the previous movie. Episode 1 didn't disrespect or ruin the original trilogy, it was just a lackluster movie that nevertheless added something of value to the universe. Kung Fu Panda 4 is more on the level of Episode 9 with that awful "Somehow Palpatine returned" line, that's how disrespectful it felt.

[@syenous2454]

@@rivershen8199 I agree, TPM might have been a mid movie but it didn't disrespect the series and actually added much more world building

[@MichaelJacksonRobloxGaming]

If anything, I agree. KFP4 is more like a DLC rather than a continuation

[@LucaMations]

A shitty DLC that no one buys cause they don't care

[@AstralApparently]

(release) seekers of the storm moment

[@RPGFlare64]

It was just a big fat waste of my time (that was my letterbox review)

[@LucaMations]

@@RPGFlare64 yo nother Letterboxd user lol

[@RPGFlare64]

@@LucaMations neat

[@deleetiusproductions3497]

Now, the saga is complete.

[@bigshot2123]

Kai was honestly a really intimidating villain, and I’m tired of saying he wasn’t ok?

[@nanashi7779]

Why were you saying that he wasn't I think plenty of people would agree with you

[@10yearsspinning]

One thing The Chameleon was good for, making Kai get more appreciation be deserves

[@supermanial.2045]

Oh he’s definitely intimidating, the trilogy cooked with villains, it’s just when you’re competition Shen and Tai Lung being a lil below them is nothing to scoff at

[@nemi9217]

I’d agree with you if the movie didn’t constantly turn him into a joke in almost every scene. I feel like if you cut out literally all the scenes where the writing decides to take a haha funny jab towards him, he’d be 100% more memorable and intimidating

[@HowDoYouTurnThisOn_]

Family friendly Kratos, and his voice acting was wild

[@YourOldFriendAmnesia]

After all these years Kung Fu Panda Kung Fu Panda 2 Kung Fu Panda 3 Finally, I have them all

[@Chekmate-em3mc]

All of them with *no* exceptions

[@SIMBA-tq2ch]

Yep there’s only 3 Kung Fu Panda Movies

[@X-SPONGED]

Why does Kung Fu Panda 3 in this comment have 3 blue magnifying glasses💀 Am I tripping!??

[@Soul-Sketched]

I will admit, Kai does actually have the most interesting concept art of the villians. There’s drawings of him with an extra set of arms and blades to lean into the spiritual aspect, there’s art where he’s essentially a looming demon that’s watched the pandas since his death. There’s much more stark artworks in his lighting as he actually throws the entire jade palace down the mountain. There’s even a nicely done storyboard with written dialogue of when he runs into crane at the desert ship. But instead it had the writing of interactions of a much deeper story like in 1 and 2. It’s just fascinating.

[@KFP_Fanboy]

i love how in kung fu panda 2, po finds out that his panda village was attacked, and kung fu panda 3 is about him protecting a panda village

[@rpk675]

Omg it’s kfp fanboy

[@Xhepyxopila]

holy moly it's the cool guy from the blue bird application!

[@Fnaffan777]

I was wondering when I would find you here :D

[@Instinct23-uf1rk]

yo it''s the truest kfp fan

[@bauloprete3905]

The ending of the 2nd was retconned, not the same villague

[@GilburtTheGreat]

Villains don't always have to have some grandiose emotional reason for being villains, occasionally a big scary man with at least a spec of intention is all you need

[@ey3z4ya]

Except they already did that in the second movie, making Kai kind of lackluster by comparison

[@jeffreyquinde6707]

@@ey3z4yawdym? Shen did have emotional depth.

[@mikeyaftony2464]

Very Sundowner in a way

[@AtlasBlizzard]

Like OG Bowser

[@raymaikeru]

@@jeffreyquinde6707Well yea but not to the level of Tai Lung by any means. Tai Lung felt betrayed by Shifu and Oogway, not being given the Dragon Warrior title. Shifu filled his head with broken dreams, trained til his bones break, and was ultimately denied the destiny he trained for because of the lingering darkness in his heart. Lord Shen meanwhile.... he was always a bad dude. He sought to learn the darker path of fireworks, the fear and destruction from the gunpowder. His answer he chose when he saw he would be bested by a warrior in black and white? He chose genocide. The only emotional thing Shen has going for him is him swearing revenge and hating his parents despite the fact the parents banished him in a regrettable decision. They still loved him, and banishment was a hard choice to make.

[@valmid5069]

They even had J.K Simmons on board as the antagonist!

[@SecretMagician]

Fun fact: Mads Mikkelsen was the original casting for Kai, but his schedule couldn't accommodate it, so he was recast with J.K. Simmons. Not to downplay J.K. though, he was great.

[@DriverHenryWho3245]

J Jonah Jameson V.S. Walter White. Two moustached men as Kung Fu-using animals. Best crossover ever.

[@UltimateDespairado]

Didn’t he also play Ford from Gravity Falls?

[@spongemaster]

​@@SecretMagician That's probably for the best. I can't really imagine Kai being voiced by Mads Mikkelsen. He specialises more in cunning, soft spoken kind of villains as opposed to J.K. Simmons, who's a better fit as an angry, vengeful general.

[@plumwings2644]

@@UltimateDespairadoYep!

[@burnscooper892]

I feel like Kai’s motivation was more about how Oogway let his memory die. I also like each villain in trilogy represents an aspect of Taoism. Tai Lung is the body, Shen is the mind and Kai is the spirit, which is why Kai had those supernatural powers related to chi.

[@nateclone3828]

I don't remember where I heard this, but Po's outfit in the Spirit world as the Dragon Warrior contains all three colors which symbolized each movie - the first movie's warm yellows is in his hat, Shen's dark red is in his belt, and Kai's green is in his new staff. Really shows that every obstacle grew Po into what he is today.

[@ToldenSandwhich-b6f]

That’s actually really cool

[@BugsyFoga]

A sponsor that isn’t surf shark or Squarespace, The expectations I’ve had have truly been SUBVERTED.

[@syra1541]

this video is officially a subversive masterpiece

[@Raph___A]

Everyone when to KFP3 when KFP4 was announced: "Perhaps I treated you too harshly"

[@theblackmoonrising]

well, not me . KFP 3 was always my favorite. Glad to see people giving the movie its flowers more now

[@adamcade604]

I don't think people were really that harsh on the third movie When it came out, they were mostly like yeah it's good enough, not the first Two but still good book end

[@under_cal]

whats kfp4?

[@Jam-og1km]

So the main thing that I actually appreciate where others don't is the more light hearted tone and emphasis on comedy. While it may seem like a stark contrast from 2's intense drama, I think it makes perfect sense. Finding inner peace Po is now completley happy and content with himself and his life. So while the stakes have technically never been higher, it can be handled with more fun to reflect that positive change in Po mentally.

[@Abner-gu3ve]

Yeah. That’s a good way to put it

[@motherplayer]

To be fair, 2 did have a lot more comedy than most give it credit for. Heck, I still think the first film feels like the least comedic of them.

[@frenzy2061]

Exactly that's what I thought too!

[@Abner-gu3ve]

@@motherplayer ehh. Nah the second film is definitely the darkest

[@motherplayer]

@@Abner-gu3ve Of course it is, I just also feel that it's got more comedy than the first film.

[@DanGamingFan2406]

I appreciate more than ever what a great, *true* conclusion this is to Po's journey to fully become the Dragon Warrior. Showing why Oogway chose him, not Awkwafina Fox.

[@watershipup7101]

Yeah seriously. What made Shifu think Oogway would want Po to retire in his prime? What gives him the right to decide that?

[@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115]

​@@watershipup7101 Yeah, that was pretty out of character for Shifu. I actually think that the movie had a pretty plausible ending; Zhen won't become Dragon Warrior immediately, she still has to serve time in prison and has to be trained to only one day assume the role. But Shifu somehow wants Po to choose a successor among a bunch of strangers on the same day as he was told that? I actually thought that he was the Chameleon in disguise for a moment. Considering that earlier in production Shifu was supposed to have been kidnapped by her (so that he could have a reunion with Tai Lung) it actually could have been a nice twist.

[@katherinesmallbean3594]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 I like your idea that Po appointed Zhen now, but that she won't take on the role of dragon warrior until much later. According to the first film, it usually takes *YEARS* of training to become a kung fu master. So, it makes sense that it is tradition to begin training a younger person while still in your prime: by the time they are ready to step up, you'd be ready to step down.

[@mr.e2631]

14:23 Disney? Leaving people alone for COPYRIGHT?

[@raymaikeru]

Disney seems to understand fair use doctrine a lot more than Universal.

[@ToldenSandwhich-b6f]

@raymaikeru which is weird because he’s actually being nice to dreamworks by giving there movies nice analysis’s

[@realwrighthill]

I think 3 is the best one depending on what time of day you catch me in. I never had a dad, but seeing po and his dad just veg out made me happy.

[@ValhallaKingdom]

Perfectly balanced trilogy

[@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0]

As all things should be

[@benjaminstephens179]

4 felt like a fanfiction more than anything

[@ParkerCS2]

Or a tv movie with a budget

[@benjaminstephens179]

@@ParkerCS2 Tru

[@ydiduorderthiswater3458]

I really liked the use of Trigress in this movie too. It was really satisfying to see how her and Po’s relationship had developed through all 3 movies. You get to see how they both come to respect each other’s differences that they’d initially found to be strange. They also don’t have a forced relationship unlike how most movies believe that “male and female characters must be romantic partners and can’t just be friends.”

[@frozen_applejuice]

I always interpreted Oogway's betrayal being that Oogway was once a villain alongside Kai, but the compassion of the Panda Village made him have a change of heart, with Kai seeing his turn to the light as a betrayal.

[@upamanyumukharji3157]

I hate it when studios destroy perfectly valid endings to make more money!!!

[@UltimateDespairado]

Cough cough Toy Story cough cough Megamind Anything else?

[@cyan789]

@@UltimateDespairado Joker

[@BloodlustTheDemon]

@@UltimateDespairadocough cough The Hunchback of Notre Dame

[@Zayd-bg1pt]

@@UltimateDespairado I personally really like toy story 4, but I can agree that it never should have existed in the first place

[@evanholloway1692]

No. Fans begged them to make a 4th movie.

[@Depth217]

2:34 when the valley comes under attack and Po is going off to fight Kai’s jombies, the lighting on Li turns blood red. It shows the lingering PTSD that Li has from Shen’s attack that massacred his people, definitely killed his wife, and seemingly killed his son all in one fell swoop when he “lost everything”. Very brief, quiet moment but effective.

[@cosmicgem7775]

I absolutely adore Kung Fu Panda 3 and it makes me sad that people don’t give this movie as much credit as it deserves! The fight with Kai when Po finally gets his transformation into the dragon warrior looking like how he did in the intro of the first movie just might be my favorite scene in the entire series. Great video!

[@EchidnaSharp]

3:56 haha you said pingas

[@quentc]

Epic

[@OperatorMax1993]

Snoopingas usual i see

[@mr-dooter-2010]

Honestly, Kai’s design and asthetic SCREAMS the inspiration of Death from Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. The weapons scraping on the floor on both sides, their role as the looming threat, the glowing eyes, the glaring stare, everything is just screaming Death.

[@spongemaster]

@@mr-dooter-2010 Kai walked so Death could run.

[@thedecidueyeguy9146]

Even though that Kai is arguably to be the weakest Kung Fu Panda villain until the Chameleon but he is probably one of the most powerful DreamWorks villains out there.

[@uiopuiop3472]

the chameleon ist worst... i am gonna shiet

[@evanholloway1692]

@@uiopuiop3472She can extract all the most powerful villains and merge them to an even bigger threat.

[@coachcherokee1488]

He’s the worst of the original trilogy but still a top 10 dreamworks villain

[@JediSteve-J3-]

Me when the J. K. Simmons villain shows up with imagine dragon instrumentals and some of the coolest colors and animation.

[@RyanTheDark]

I don't dislike the third one but I wouldn't rewatch it as I would rewatch Toy Story 3 or Madagascar 3. I wish DreamWorks ignored those parents who complained about the second one being too dark and went with the original intent of it being a much darker installment.

[@sambridgers9543]

Hey, Ryan. You watch Schaffrillas too?

[@pigglesgoomshby7249]

Yeah like all the pieces were very clearly there to make another standout movie on the same level as 1 and 2, especially when it comes to Kai

[@noahthedog8579]

WTF?!?? Schaff didn’t talk about the doomsday aparatas in pikmin 2!!!!!!!!!!!!! You liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!

[@onepresence9460]

It's funny because I think the opposite. I would rewatch KPF 3 more than Toy Story 3 and Madagascar 3, despite really enjoying these as well.

[@chidieberenwadike4165]

Not everything has to be dark and edgy dude...

[@buffduckstudios]

I have a family friend who voice acted in this film. They made him a character SPECIFICALLY for him to voice, with his first name as the character name. When we got together one year we played his scene and just kept shouting his lines. I still chuckle when thinking about it.

[@thehillisalive]

I'll miss your animated movie analyses, but look forward to whatever you have planned that gives you joy to talk about. Burnout is so real.

[@bknpnck]

"Yeah, I really DO need to make videos on these movies, don't I?" And less than 4 years later they were all covered

[@c-affinity7545]

This is a good movie, I love J.K. Simmons' performance in this as Kai

[@MovieFan1912]

That’s at least one good thing to come of this movie’s villain. In fact, every voice actor who played a villain in these movies is one of the best things about those characters, and yes, that includes The Chameleon’s voice actress, Viola Davis.

[@HerwakNic]

It Still Is. Prove me wrong

[@TheScrimLord]

We can't.

[@ilno]

I think he meant it ain't a final installment anymore because there's the 4th 😅

[@HerwakNic]

@@TheScrimLord Hi Curls

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

​@@ilno There is no 4th KFP movie actually

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

Can't prove facts wrong

[@maxantubegaming]

Something that still bothers me about 4 that could have at least made the ending a little better is Poe's choice of new dragon warrior. He chose Awkwafina Fox when Tigress would have been a way better option. The deal in the first movie is that everyone expected Tigress to be the dragon warrior even when it was given to Poe. It would have been such an amazing tie-in to the first movie if she finally got the title she had trained for her entire life.

[@TheGame-hl1ew]

I 100% agree. Tigress has this powerful character arc as she grows from struggling to reconcile with not being selected as the dragon warrior. I, too, find myself greatly frustrated at the 4th film's audacity to not only throw aside her development for a less compelling character, but to not even INCLUDE HER at all. As Schaff mentioned during this video, KFP3, despite some of the goofier moments, respects the previous films. Somehow, the 4th movie fails at achieving both the emotional maturity of the first two films and staying true to the characters and their arcs. Suddenly, the conclusion brings the movie down to something like a 4/10 for me.

[@WisenedMan]

I disagree. One major component of Tigress' character is her learning that being the DW is not her destiny and she has gradually come to terms with this. While she definitely respects the title and what it represents it isn't what she truly needed. Besides, her primary motivation for wanting the DW title in the first place was to finally make Shifu proud of her. She didn't really care about the title itself. Same thing with her getting into Kung Fu and following the warrior's path was again due to Shifu and her desire to be close to him and have him genuinely acknowledge her and love her enough. Tigress was deprived of love all of her life so this sense. She received all of the love and validation she needed in her life from Po later anyway.

[@maxmeidl4909]

It might be hard for the villain to live up to the standards of someone who single-handily escaped a maximum security prison using only a feather, and Gary Oldman as an evil peacock, but I do have to give Kai props for not only still posing as a decent threat (and for arguably being more powerful than both Tai Lung and Shen COMBINED), and for also getting the yellow m&m himself to provide the voice.

[@Durtle.]

1:36 THAT WAS A BAR

[@Mr.TwoFaceGuy]

Schaffrilles spitin’ straight fire.

[@ceanist_]

True

[@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0]

T r u e

[@Discord2319]

Nice profile pic

[@NinjaElectroYoutuber]

​@@Discord2319 Nicer profile pic

[@Discord2319]

@@NinjaElectroKZbinr danke

[@benderbendingrodriguez420]

Kung Fu Panda 4: *Exists* Literally everyone looking back at KFP3: *"Perhaps i treated you too poorly.."*

[@mecklejay7587]

Something else I'll add - this is the one theater experience I've had where seeing it in 3D actually benefitted the film. I usually avoid 3D, but I saw this as part of a three-movie day and the only showing that fit the schedule was in 3D. It turns out the stuff in the spirit world was excellent in 3D, and conveyed the scale of the space and the objects floating (and being flung around) in it VERY well.

[@JermTheSigma]

5:54 I mean to be fair, we also see Lord Shen suddenly wanting to conquer all of China just by seeing some fireworks. Yes Shen has more importance than Kai between the two movies, but I think they’re similar enough to make this statement.

[@Thefantastic_mrJ]

Ngl when I watch the “we’ll be back before you can say noodles” … “noodles” it gets me every time

[@fatricecat]

Also, this is the move that gives us the Double Dad Defense. Peak movie.

[@themecha47]

My favourite moment from this WHOLE movie never gets mentioned. Master shifu asking him to be trained by po for me always seems to powerful.

[@RudyG.Numpad]

I feel about Kung Fu Panda 3 the same way I feel about Star Wars Episode 6. Even if you aren't a big fan of it you still have to admit that it was a good conclussion and it ties the knot on all the themes.

[@E_SHADOW84]

Another good way to see how similar they are is the fact that both were ruined because of their sequels

[@VocalMabiMaple]

Kai isn't a deep villain, but he's a great villain. His fights are so satisfying.

[@Urmumlel7025]

"Was" is crazy. I know the KPF 4 video is about to be some heat.

[@death_ship1332]

He already did the Kung Fu Panda 4 video, when the movie released. It already was some heat.

[@deleetiusproductions3497]

i would point the thing out but i don't want to risk getting wooshed

[@jeffreyquinde6707]

I believe his initial review counts as part of his KFP essay series

[@americanshadow95]

Well, the franchise is now complete as he has reviewed them all!!

[@baylorwuzhere]

You know it’s a good day when Schaff uploads.

[@hariman7727]

The third act misunderstanding being reversed in 5 minutes is very refreshing, especially having Po's adoptive father helping with it too. Some people really do just want power, and don't need a twist. That's actually a bigger twist than there being sympathetic or something. And it does advance Po's story further in a good way.

[@somerandomk9]

fun fact that more people should know, Kai's theme is sampled from an imagine dragons song called "im so sorry". its really good and you guys should give it a listen

[@deadmagnet6318]

the title of this video is so clever! its a very subtle nod to how it WAS a great finale, implying that there is a fourth movie (which there is) which makes the third one NOT the finale anymore, bravo vince

[@ፔ̇̈]

A great *ENDING* to a great *TRILOGY* …! Am I right, guys? 😉 😅

[@kzilla8864]

This really shows that Kung Fu 4 REALLY did not need to exist so they wouldn't ruin a perfect finale, just like Toy Story 4.

[@Nekrotix12]

I will say, the best thing about KFP4 is that it made people appreciate KFP3 more. I loved this film even before the fourth came out, so I'm glad more people are seeing 3 as a more worthy sequel than they used to.

[@0800sofa]

KFP1 - Body KFP2 - Mind KFP3 - Spirit KFP4 - ….

[@dc1054]

Money

[@Seth528]

short

[@evanholloway1692]

Conscience

[@Jason-..-]

Height

[@AzEsmNoob]

slop

[@akamered4483]

3:35 "The right thing for the wrong reasons", you mean "The wrong thing for the right reasons"? (I'm sorry, I just had to, MUAHAHAHA)

[@makepr]

Its sad, i love this format videos of yours. Were hoping for how to train for dragon videos too, since thats an solid trilogy too

[@EvieWurtz]

Kai is literally the field test for what would be Death from Puss In Boots Last Wish (Even down to the dual weapon slamming on the ground scene)

[@gracestitzel]

i was JUST rewatching schaffrillas’s stuff yesterday. him uploading today is heavensent

[@gregheffley9984]

I have a cool theory about Kai. I think him and Oogway were both war lords (evil guys) but Oogway turned good thanks to the pandas. Kai wanted to conquer the pandas with Oogway but he had a change of heart. They had a disagreement fight and Oogway won (that'a the part from the movie)

[@connortg5]

that's not a theory that's literally just what happened po and the gang read about it in a scroll in the film

[@gregheffley9984]

@@connortg5 it's not mentioned that they were criminals in the movie

[@connortg5]

@@gregheffley9984 it is definitely mentioned that they were warriors together, there was a gag about shifu only reading half of the sentence "they were brothers in arms" and monkey getting confused

[@addictedtofauna3838]

@@gregheffley9984 it is explicitly stated that Oogway was ambitious leading an army with Kai as his general. The same Kai with titles like “Beast of Vengeance” and “Maker of Widows”

[@gregheffley9984]

@@addictedtofauna3838 it's not mentioned that Oogway changed, the story is really vague which leads to people thinking it's Kai who turned to the dark side

[@KFP_Fanboy]

kung fu panda 1-3 was po’s successor trilogy, and kung fu panda 4-6 is po’s mentor trilogy 3 was still an amazing grand finale

[@Shrekperson]

I immediately thought of you when I got this notification

[@SuperLuigi97]

Schaffrillas: Kung Fu Panda 3 is the true finale to the franchise, Kung Fu Panda 4 is bad, and it just exists. @KFP_Fanboy punching the air*

[@KFP_Fanboy]

me: **likes kung fu panda 4** @superluigi97: **punching the air** seriously, stop following me everywhere just to hate, if you’re that mad over my opinion just ignore it

[@Shrekperson]

@@SuperLuigi97 who the fuck even are you

[@soniconabudgetstudios]

I agree with this, 4 feels a lot like the start of a new era

[@Boibolic420]

FINALLY. SOMEONE GETS IT.

[@Soundwave08]

This film was my introduction to the franchise, it has its flaws but god, I love it

[@captainluma7991]

It was great going on this journey with you Schaff! I Love this trilogy, and I loved hearing your thoughts on each film. You always bring incredibly thoughtful and entertaining analyses to this channel. Thank you for all the great content!

[@TENI-]

End of ad 5:23

[@whattodo98]

Thank you Mr TENI you are truly the best of us all

[@ggrocks6566]

Thank you for your service, but this time around, I'd actually recommend listening in! Seems like a really useful little app.

[@M31l0dY_YT]

​@@whattodo98yesd

[@Pijanywegorz2137]

We need a Schaffrillas video about EPIC: The Musical 🙏🏻✨

[@titanbro1119]

Im not kidding. i was legit typying in the theme for Lord Shen's Backstory, and i saw this on the notification bar, right when i got done typing it into the search bar😂

[@Instinct23-uf1rk]

lol happens sometimes

[@Rhuaridhheats]

The kai theme is crazy

[@jakefoxx7978]

That Po discovers crack meme just fits KFP4 so perfectly I wish someone would stick that on the back of the DVD case

[@vanikestewart8578]

I just find it insane that JK Simmons and Bryan Cranston are in the same cast. I dont know why I love that some much

[@AGuyWhoDoesStuff548]

I haven’t seen KFP4 yet. This is the KFP equivalent of Toy Story 3.

[@cabrondemente1]

Nah, Toy Story 4 while unnecessary is a good film on it's own and respects the previous entries. KFP4 is downright disrespectful to the series.

[@10yearsspinning]

@@cabrondemente1 not really when you watch the toy Story destroyed everything vid, Woodie leaves his family for a love intrest

[@UltimateDespairado]

@@10yearsspinning Please do not bring up the “How Toy Story 4 ruined Toy story” video For me, it sounds like the guy is nitpicking for six hours and doesn’t really go anywhere.

[@10yearsspinning]

@@UltimateDespairado yes it does, they undid Jesse's arc of being in a tight space, Buzz made into an idiot, Bo being demeaning, Forky being suicidal treated as a joke, the villian getting what she wants without changing and would've taken voice box anyway, etc

[@MovieFan1912]

Good. I suggest you ignore that one and stick with the first three movies.

[@thenightpanther6qy]

KP1 Don't give up KP2 Dont let sadness and pasts stop you KP3 Be calm and use all your gifted chi to become the dragon master KP4 Be patience even if this annoys you it is practice of tourutrement p.s if I made a mistake I'm sorry

[@ThePrincessCH]

Fun fact: In Chinese made fantasies, chi powers are gained through cultivation, not insight.

[@ParkerCS2]

Chi was basically a predecessor to the force from Star Wars. Something that surrounds the entire universe and all living things.

[@MovieFan1912]

@@ParkerCS2Do you think maybe Lucas got inspiration from that for Star Wars, like how he got inspiration from samurai movies?

[@ParkerCS2]

@@MovieFan1912 probably

[@KadenBowker]

7:29 THIS!!! This right here!!! There is even concept art from the movie’s original script that literally has Kai throwing the palace OFF THE MOUNTAIN like a toy!

[@blakecopleston989]

4:02 DUDE JUST SAY PANDAEMONIUM IT WAS RIGHT THERE

[@Hol1dayNoelle]

pressure...

[@CameronMetrejean]

I can’t understand why after this movie opened establishing that Po would now be a teacher as well as the Dragon Warrior, KFP4 would rehash that feeling with Po now being the Spiritual Leader and NOT the Dragon Warrior. Instead I think KFP 4 should have been about Shifu wanting The Furious Five to disperse across China to spread his teachings while Po stays. Have THAT be the change that Po and the rest have to deal with and then they have some conversations on how each of them feels different about that during their final mission together to take down the Chameleon (who hopefully has a much better motivation in this version) Oh and Zhen is nowhere to be found.

[@jayayahgmd]

if only this was the finale

[@Reverse-Goku]

Kung Fu Panda 3 is the true ending to the Kung Fu Panda universe and I don’t care what no one says and there was no 4th movie.

[@BlindfoldedPerson]

Finally I was awaiting for this for SO long

[@JackMaglc]

hearing "seat geek" instead of squarespace at the beginning of the video was a fucking jumpscare