Why Labels Won’t Give Artists Their Publishing Back For 20 Years

[@Pistassmg]

I need dis one ASAP they sleep on sir mix alot industry knowledge

[@DorianGroup82]

Moved it up for you.

[@marcanthonystephens]

@@DorianGroup82 Stop demonizing record labels. Without record labels 99% of artist would never be heard or make money from their talent. Artist are just greedy and want someone to pay for their success and then they kick them to the curb. If I give you money, marketing, distribution, fame, and most of all increased market value...you better believe I will keep some type of ownership. When a bank gives you money to buy a house they OWN THE DEED not you. Once you pay back the interest and principal then you get a copy of the deed and ownership...which is in 30 YEARS. Record companies are CONSTANTLY spending money on artist even when they flop. Mortgage and Masters = ownership. Notes in a song and notes on a house = you have to pay it back. I requested your free ebook and you are charging $2,500 for websites when artist can get one for free on wordpress or joomla. You are no different then the record labels charging all those inflated fees...Lol. You seem cool tho and your videos are informative....but tell the truth. 99% of artist will never blow up without a record label.

[@Pistassmg]

@@DorianGroup82 thank u king... Cus his story need to be heard he been eating off baby got back since the early 90s

[@jayg5650]

Marc Stephens I think he’s more so just encouraging Indy artists to learn more about the business before pursuing a deal with a major label. He’s had pretty considerable success as an Indy artist himself. There are a lot of artists who still have to tour and do shows just to eat while the label is still making a killing off of their masters. Imagine Lil Wayne and T Pain having KZbin channels and twitch streams in 2020 after their heyday in the 2000s......

[@marcanthonystephens]

​@@jayg5650 I see and understand what he is doing. I agree that artist should do their own thing, but they are not getting a million dollar house, cars, jewelry, bitches, videos, concerts with big name artist, etc by being independent. I'm going by the title as well, "Why Labels Won’t Give Artists Their Publishing Back For 20 Years ". Because record labels give artist MILLIONS so the labels must make their money back...that's why it takes 20 years. I gave the example of a HOUSE. If you borrow $400,000 for a house that loan is for 30 years...and you don't own it until you pay it off. Most artist are clueless about money which is why they think labels are getting them...some do steal money. But if I blow up some dirty broke ass rapper into a mega superstar I want OWNERSHIP. People see MILLIONS but never count the EXPENSES. If I give you $5 million you do understand it comes with monthly payments right?? Labels take out LOANS to give artist...that come with monthly payments.

[@bigkeezo]

Sir Mix A Lot “Posse on Broadway”

[@DorianGroup82]

Shit slaps.

[@leilaniLA]

That was my favorite

[@angelathomas1159]

True, The music industry can block you from radio stations. They can pay people to block you. BUT now the tables have turned. You can produce your own music and promote on social media ,)

[@TheFDream]

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[@DorianGroup82]

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[@TheFDream]

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[@RealMrTruth]

Q-tip said it best record labels are shady. That's why me and my guy started our own independent label

[@DorianGroup82]

Don't sign nothing

[@finnisluv2897]

Yess King. Thanks for the knowledge

[@chuckallstar1281]

Great Channel for upcoming artist

[@DorianGroup82]

Appreciate that. You follow us on IG too?

[@christopherspohn8071]

That video sir mix a lot did is great, chicks on butts.

[@Spill_ent]

Thanks for these videos they're really educational for people in the industry and people that are trying to get in the industry and fans oh these artists are here that think the industry it's all fun and games.

[@DorianGroup82]

No doubt. Appreciate watching. Follow me on IG too. We post daily.

[@ridcoulssir4046]

What sucks is these artist knew what they were getting in too theres no shortcuts in life / rap game as well.

[@DorianGroup82]

99% of them had no idea what they were signing.

[@Gizmoney893]

Love what you are doing bro

[@DorianGroup82]

Appreciate that. What's been your favorite video?

[@Gizmoney893]

DorianGroup82 honestly all of them bro

[@trackmusic252]

Truth still blow they mind. Hate to hear it.

[@gstylz3574]

Salutesz for the info

[@jallison5457]

Why do we act like we don't know how to do business? People been getting robbed in the music industry for years.we have seen the stories. How the hell u create sumthn and u don't own it? People want record deals, instead of trying to be independent and negotiate what's theirs.

[@kennydawson265]

Outstanding!!

[@jamarrallen2181]

Sir mix lot is living better than your favorite rapper because he owns 100% of the song baby got back, he been eating good for the past 30 years off 1 song!, OWNERSHIP IS POWER.

[@melvinbridgewater4955]

Another Example Young MC. Bust A Move

[@hafizsalaam3916]

He is the reasin why we know J Prince as a music man. His lil bro was getting robbed and he wasnt having it and started his own label

[@GoldenStarIncTV]

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[@willlakai]

I fuck with your work brotha. Just be careful I'm sure these labels will do everything in their power to come after you

[@cruzanstx6661]

West Coast Legend

[@Wimsify]

Mix is one of the very few artists that was able to keep his publishing. Credit to Ricardo over there and the label Def American i think

[@DorianGroup82]

Yea he shouted Ricardo out a few times in this interview

[@WashingtonsofMoney]

Damn sir Mix A Lot! Brother the content is 🔥🔥🔥 Damn 20 years tho smh that's crazy

[@DorianGroup82]

This interview was crazy.

[@Koldheart5]

41 days damn

[@DorianGroup82]

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[@themaroon3521]

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[@Koldheart5]

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[@SunnyReignz]

What was the name of that song at the end of the video?

[@DorianGroup82]

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[@akrecordzmusic1821]

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[@DorianGroup82]

Got some in the chamber.

[@akrecordzmusic1821]

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[@jasonjones2137]

Mix Alot probably Richer than Jay, puffy, and alot of so called rappers they like feeding us.

[@angelbennett3891]

My personal opinion is that while "Jay" and "Diddy" may have "more money" than Sir Mix-A-Lot, Sir's money is HIS MONEY. I believe that Diddy and Jay are on the "industry's" payroll and if they ever step out of line with the "industry's AGENDA" all that money in J and D's bank accounts will "mysteriously disappear" in whatever media "scandal" the "industry" would use against them....JUST MY OPINION.

[@hafizsalaam3916]

Im sure hes rich but Jay z and Diddy are there entirely own industry. Thr level they have cant be destroyed only diminished

[@mohd_allearz8403]

Gotta do something about these bots commenting

[@jayg5650]

Gotta do something about these industry shills and culture vultures in the other threads too.

[@crvd1918]

You’re explanation is vague. It’s really all about leverage. If you’re an independent artist with a buzz already and doing numbers, you can mold your contract to best suit you; to a certain extent I admit but if you don’t get what you want and how you want it, just don’t sign. I must also admit publishing companies have more connections than any independent artist. So it all depends on what you want or need as an artist and financially. There is a certain % of your publishing floating around that only they can access. No independent artist can get to that money because it involves getting into buildings and requesting it through industry relationships. Plus, record deals and publishing deals are two completely different things. You have to already have a significant amount of work released and doing good, streaming wise, to get an advance. Publishing deals (sony) actually tries to keep your publishing a lot longer than 20 years. More like, 70 years after you die. You just have to keep an eye out when reading your contract, because they try to sneak that shit in using penal codes from copyright laws instead of saying “WE KEEP YOUR SHIT PRETTY MUCH FOREVER” Publishing deals are often 30/70, 25/75 or 20/80. The bigger % going to the artist. It isn’t like a record deal where it’s the other way around because the label is putting a bunch of money to invest in the artist. When it comes to record deals, you gotta be smart too. There are many ways around them, you can mold them how you like if you got numbers, already. You gotta be a hustler. If a label comes to you it’s because they believe in you or it’s because you probably already have a buzz going on. The ball is in your court you just gotta know how to play it. I got one of my artists 1.2 million contract with one of the biggest if not the biggest record labels in the world. With NO advance and we gonna pocket 75% to 85% of of that 1.2 millie without owning the label a penny! That right, ZERO debts Without giving up our masters either and before we even put work out under them. Y’all gotta pay attention, read between the lines. If you got the numbers you got the leverage. I can’t elaborate much more on these subjects because it’s what I get paid for. 😉

[@sontwisted]

he made 100 million off the publishing of baby got back

[@sontwisted]

@Babylon Flowers too many zeros

[@busted1396]

you really trippin with the dates

[@DorianGroup82]

moved that joint up to today.

[@busted1396]

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[@keifer3795]

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[@dremm7174]

Suscribed.

[@DorianGroup82]

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[@tracygrady6340]

Sir mix alot

[@prologatl7900]

Bottomline you will go broke ...trying to look Rich..

[@mpofc]

Wait, I don't understand...what happened with you and Billboard?

[@DorianGroup82]

Posted about them on IG. Going to do a video about it soon.

[@amininman8533]

SIR MIX-A-LOT AND J-PRINCE ARE BROTHERS....

[@chrisstyles9429]

Sir Rap-A-Lot is J. Prince’s brother, not Sir Mix-A-Lot.

[@amininman8533]

@@chrisstyles9429 thanks for the correction bro...💪🏾also I apologize to everyone for me passing around wrong information.....🙏🏾

[@moneyfiremike]

If a label putting a millions on the table for u the sign I can promise u that u already hot enough to generate your own millions this the digital era and labels not throwing millions to small following rappers maybe before digital era when they control everything but now fuck no and when u a hot rapper u don’t need labels to sign u for millions my child hood friend Rylo Rodriguez already generated a million before signing to Lil baby for a 150k if u hot u making your own millions if u not a label damn sho ain’t putting a million on the table in this cookie cutter era when they know they can’t control who the people choose to be the next star they have power to give u notoriety but not the power to make the people choose the next how rapper they don’t look at Lil durk the def jam couldn’t do nothing with him but when he start back feeding the streets we put him on a level the labels couldn’t never and they offering millions for him now but he don’t need them the streets giving him his millions not no damn label

[@moneyfiremike]

I got 3 homeboys in the industry Rylo Rodriguez,Yung Bleu,and Nocap and they ain’t make they millions off no contract they made it off shows u really talking about old school rap deals ion know who your audience is but they really getting misled by u cause fuck streaming that’s the pennies for labels to make they dollars and can’t say pennies cause all my rap partners getting 6 figure checks after signing from streaming services every couple months but the millions coming from them 20 racks a show and 60 to 80 thousand a week niggas making they own millions they not signing for no damn million.

[@deedukes1279]

Not a fan of this approach...only constructive criticism..but who am i to tell YOU shit?lol

[@marcanthonystephens]

Stop demonizing record labels. Without record labels 99% of artist would never be heard or make money from their talent. Artist are just greedy and want someone to pay for their success and then they kick them to the curb. If I give you money, marketing, distribution, fame, and most of all increased market value...you better believe I will keep some type of ownership. When a bank gives you money to buy a house they OWN THE DEED not you. Once you pay back the interest and principal then you get a copy of the deed and ownership...which is in 30 YEARS. Record companies are CONSTANTLY spending money on artist even when they flop. Mortgage and Masters = ownership. Notes in a song and notes on a house = you have to pay it back. I requested your free ebook and you are charging $2,500 for websites when artist can get one for free on wordpress or joomla. You are no different then the record labels charging all those inflated fees...Lol. You seem cool tho and your videos are informative....but tell the truth. 99% of artist will never blow up without a record label.

[@Slappybeaver1]

Marc , I spent my whole life in the music biz both as an artist and as a record exec and you are correct. If artists want to own everything then do not take money and sell it. I did deals where the label had zero publishing but they did not pay the publishing advance. These so so called experts online know nothing about the real business. Any artist can not sign to a label but they then have to pay for everything out of their own pockets, they pay to make the record, they pay for promotion, they pay for publicity, they pay their own tour support... they own everything...BUT... what happens when their record does not make it? Most don't. They now have lost a lot of money or owe the bank a lot of money and the bank will take the collateral. If you were with a record company they paid all the expenses and lost the money, the artist walks away with no debt. These KZbin experts give bad information and the new artist then has false info.

[@marcanthonystephens]

@@Slappybeaver1 Exactly! Yeah without a label their tour bus will be a UBER...Lol. I help artist as well. I just help with marketing. I let them know the truth. This guy is scaring them to buy his extremely high priced services.

[@phanatixtalkshow1838]

We can now blow up without labels that has been happening 4 the past 7yrs we dont need record labels

[@marcanthonystephens]

@@phanatixtalkshow1838 Like I said, where are the mansions? The independent artist are starving...you get a few that get through but they are partnered with labels.

[@trillwave5165]

Wassup man. Hope all is well. Just wanted to know is there any books or websites about the music business that you can link me too to get a good foundation.