This Is Why Record Labels Want Your Masters

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@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 3 жыл бұрын
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@kaysha
@kaysha 4 жыл бұрын
The solution is invest in yourself. Who invests the money owns the master. Be independent.
@oddnoir8592
@oddnoir8592 4 жыл бұрын
One love kaysha 🇨🇻
@icemike1
@icemike1 4 жыл бұрын
It's not that simple poor people are desperate
@lee_drifting
@lee_drifting 4 жыл бұрын
@@icemike1 these days, its simple since we have the internet. we have various ways to make money when it comes to art. many ppl out here selling their music digitally, on tapes, and on vinyl on bandcamp
@icemike1
@icemike1 4 жыл бұрын
@@lee_drifting are you
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky 4 жыл бұрын
@@icemike1 what's stopping you? let's break it down rn! 🤜
@christopherjacobtv8204
@christopherjacobtv8204 4 жыл бұрын
Masters = generational wealth
@angelbennett3891
@angelbennett3891 4 жыл бұрын
Prince eluded to this also...
@virgohontas
@virgohontas 4 жыл бұрын
I was just about to google the answer to masters. Lol Thank you!
@gunleejp
@gunleejp 3 жыл бұрын
It depends on if your music get played for generations if your music is just sitting there your masters don’t equate to generational wealth
@barkanellichasingdreams4142
@barkanellichasingdreams4142 3 жыл бұрын
Hollywood accounting. If the label get all the income and then distribute it to the artist the label cal screw the artist. The artist or band can never screw the label. Will it happend?
@Speedster189
@Speedster189 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in the U.S. after 70 years after the original artists dies it becomes public domain meaning nobody can copyright it anymore
@SelfTaughtWeightloss
@SelfTaughtWeightloss 4 жыл бұрын
This is why the record companies want talent so young. When you're young all you see is the advance money they give you. They don't know that an advance is actually a loan that they have to pay back. It's a deliberate scam.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@electricpurple4112
@electricpurple4112 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@karensmith8361
@karensmith8361 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to payback with a BIG interest rate 💯
@deezzzeverything51
@deezzzeverything51 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I never knew that..
@kitsunegiblaze8022
@kitsunegiblaze8022 4 жыл бұрын
They sign these dumb ass drugged up kids like Lil Xan. Make em popular. Wait til they die from the drugs THEIR INDUSTRY HANDLERS GIVE EM and then they just cash in on their deaths. Same thing happened to Kurt Cobain. We all know that man could not load no damn shotgun while he was too high to even move outta the damn recliner.
@abefinklestein711
@abefinklestein711 4 жыл бұрын
When Michael Jackson owned half of Sony Records he was grossing 250 million a year just off of that! Plus he had the Beatles & other publishings. No wonder they offed him. 😢😢
@dredayb1207
@dredayb1207 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that figure is rt you heard what dude said a billion not million and you forgot to mention Michael had the Beatles catalog I'm hearing alot of different artists talk these days about their master's my advice is try different approach than Prince and Michael and Kanye please be careful bro if something happens to that brother I think it will be because he is demanding his masters back but hats off to Kanye for setting the example with his own artists
@abefinklestein711
@abefinklestein711 4 жыл бұрын
@@dredayb1207 I meant Michael was making at least 250 million a year off his 50% ownership in sony, that's not counting his own sales and his ownership of the Beatles, James Brown, Otis Redding, Wilson Pickett & other catalogues, Michael & Prince did nothing wrong, they were killed for doing " Good Business "
@dredayb1207
@dredayb1207 4 жыл бұрын
@@abefinklestein711 can't argue with you there🎯🎯🎯
@67LOCsiNYC
@67LOCsiNYC 4 жыл бұрын
@@abefinklestein711 your comment is spot on and you need way more likes, people are sleep
@MrVanderbilt25
@MrVanderbilt25 4 жыл бұрын
And if I recall correctly, didn’t Michael Jackson give some of that money back to James Brown or one of the other artists you mentioned?
@CapitalGainzz
@CapitalGainzz 4 жыл бұрын
Michael owned 50% of assets in Sony. Fact check. No wonder he “died”.
@shondacheesecake
@shondacheesecake 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. And Sony bought it back from MJ's estate. Smh
@zebby613
@zebby613 4 жыл бұрын
@@shondacheesecake Yes they did!!!!
@tubester4567
@tubester4567 4 жыл бұрын
When he died his family owns the catalog. The Jackson family are experienced they didnt have to sell back to Sony. I agree the record labels suck but they didnt kill MJ, and killing him doesnt mean they get the catalog back. And MJ didnt "own 50% of sony" Sony is a huge multi-national company that makes TVs, electronics of all kinds, and they have stakes in movies, TV shows, entertainment of all kinds. MJ didnt own 50% of shit.
@CapitalGainzz
@CapitalGainzz 4 жыл бұрын
@@tubester4567 You sound smart to someone dumb. He owned half of their MUSIC CATALOG. This is documented information that you can simply look up. 😂
@zebby613
@zebby613 4 жыл бұрын
@@tubester4567 I agree MJ didn't own %50 of Sony...however he owned a lot of artist material which put him as a high player in the industry. There is a mystery in his death and the estate owning thereafter. His case is no different than Prince. As soon as he died Warner Bros had access to what was not accessible before AND right Prince had a meeting with Warner Bros two days prior. So one can see how people come up with such ideas as the industry is killing these powerful artist...I'll even add that George Michaels only surviving sister died on the same exact as he did years later " supposedly" being his estate holder after his death. All three of these men challenged the majors in some form or fashion and died unexpectedly. Afterward each death something was gained by their demise.
@jayg5650
@jayg5650 4 жыл бұрын
When he pulled the Miles record out...not gonna lie...hurt my heart.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@putinwork3498
@putinwork3498 4 жыл бұрын
😢❤❤
@LBright4444
@LBright4444 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. My heart broke in that moment. I was hurt. Its like a rape of some kind. Go get yours independent artists!!!!!!!
@TheWillog
@TheWillog 4 жыл бұрын
@Cory Butdette miles ? is that you ?
@lolap3667
@lolap3667 4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@danjenkins2064
@danjenkins2064 4 жыл бұрын
This dude is really going to flip out if he ever figures out how the Federal Reserve works.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@robinbaby1971
@robinbaby1971 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@PHlophe
@PHlophe 4 жыл бұрын
@ all 3 together bad combo
@Trill4life777
@Trill4life777 4 жыл бұрын
Right lol
@DephreeDog
@DephreeDog 4 жыл бұрын
LOL! I can’t wait to see that one!
@TheLegendKc
@TheLegendKc 4 жыл бұрын
Thas some real talk. I have been #indie for the longest. Ive had a few labels try and holla. As soon as they talked about keeping my masters, the convo was over.
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing more to discuss.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@jonathanevelyn1063
@jonathanevelyn1063 3 жыл бұрын
Ppl still want to sign with these vulture labels smh
@deniawiseone95
@deniawiseone95 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@chibanyc25
@chibanyc25 4 жыл бұрын
This is why someone called these people bloodsuckers and why others don't mind stealing downloads.
@thealchemist5761
@thealchemist5761 4 жыл бұрын
At this point I wouldn't feel guilty about stealing anything, they don't.
@projectmanagement2356
@projectmanagement2356 4 жыл бұрын
They can 🚬 some 🐓
@stickyfox
@stickyfox 3 жыл бұрын
Musicians only make 10-15% of record sale profit, and that's *after* the distribution costs are taken out. They abuse artists and encourage people like James Hetfield to make asses of themselves fighting to defend the 80-90% of revenue the label takes. Fifty years ago, before a musician could buy a whole studio at Guitar Center for $2000, and release a single in seconds on YT or SoundCloud, there might have been an argument that labels contribute something of value. But now they're just a bunch of... well you called it!
@truthteller2839
@truthteller2839 4 жыл бұрын
This Is Why Record Labels Want Your Masters. Money, money, money. And that's the reason why those demons killed Prince, And Michael Jackson.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@stephencook7337
@stephencook7337 4 жыл бұрын
Prince didn’t pay his taxes lol
@Wizardjunior77
@Wizardjunior77 4 жыл бұрын
Ding ding ✊🏾respect
@Btvstudio
@Btvstudio 4 жыл бұрын
When you die, those rights transfer to your children or estate. So they weren't killed by people who wanted master rights SMH. Don't believe everything you read online.
@SHINE33777
@SHINE33777 4 жыл бұрын
The soul is creative, and expansive.. "Universal" 😳 They're harvesting. They've been in the GARDEN.
@luissam1547
@luissam1547 4 жыл бұрын
And probably use that same bread to fund their Epstien trips also.
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
No question.
@chivo_gaming
@chivo_gaming 4 жыл бұрын
Garlic bread? 🤔
@AtlLateNight
@AtlLateNight 4 жыл бұрын
Yooo comment of the day
@MrVanderbilt25
@MrVanderbilt25 4 жыл бұрын
Facts!
@Mookaron
@Mookaron 4 жыл бұрын
That's not even a thought!
@mikhelBrown
@mikhelBrown 4 жыл бұрын
A Billion?! Damn! That's why they were all over Michael Jackson. #RIP
@royrose1472
@royrose1472 4 жыл бұрын
You see now
@deefunkstrong7818
@deefunkstrong7818 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed!!!!! Mike was even getting PlayStation money 💰
@raheemhamilton8624
@raheemhamilton8624 4 жыл бұрын
Michael gave little Richard back his masters no charge at all.
@JustMe-ws2pe
@JustMe-ws2pe 4 жыл бұрын
@@raheemhamilton8624 facts
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@emmanuelsebua1445
@emmanuelsebua1445 4 жыл бұрын
Artists pay for studio-time, publishing, printing, promotion, sound engineer, photographer, music video ect. At the end, they don't own what they wrote and made.
@davidcoleman9317
@davidcoleman9317 4 жыл бұрын
Prince was trying to teach a lot of people this same thing. I'm glad some people paid attention in class.
@victoriusalexander5884
@victoriusalexander5884 3 жыл бұрын
You are teaching Brother-Man humanity how to creatively be wise at making, securing & perpetuating profit making music records, by reserving the right to own one's own Master recordings!
@chivo_gaming
@chivo_gaming 4 жыл бұрын
I had a deal with Universal back in the day...but turned it down cuz they wanted to own my masters "indefinitely"....i was like🤔🤔🤔...this ain't gonna work...so I became a waiter...life's good....😊
@aherf2923
@aherf2923 4 жыл бұрын
if they got your masters back in the day you probably still would’ve became a waiter
@chivo_gaming
@chivo_gaming 4 жыл бұрын
@@aherf2923 lol...facts...
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@yvescharles3193
@yvescharles3193 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@done1852
@done1852 4 жыл бұрын
Drop your music on streams now you will be pleasantly surprised
@th3rd3arplan3tradio
@th3rd3arplan3tradio 4 жыл бұрын
Remember what Q-Tip said... "Record company people are shady."
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@phillipwalker4237
@phillipwalker4237 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Jackson became "WACKO JACKO" when he acquired the ATV Music Publishing Catalog. Lastly, let's be honest, these record labels did not put a gun to many of these black artist heads for their masters recordings. They willingly gave it to them. Many of these black artists doesn't look at dealing with these record labels as a business. Making sure that they can at least be able to reacquire their Masters and Publishing. A great example of this would be rapper Sir Mix A Lot and his biggest record Baby Got Back. Since he got back his masters and Publishing, he "EASILY" made over $200 million dollars off of Baby Got Back alone. Remember rapper Nicky Minaj remade Sir Mix A Lot's record named Anaconda
@kristafurdixon8121
@kristafurdixon8121 4 жыл бұрын
You think they don't trick them into using a label funded lawyer to look over contracts? You think those lawyers gonna look out for the artist or the label that's paying them? Most of them are scammed while thinking there being smart.. these labels had decades to perfect there deception!
@phillipwalker4237
@phillipwalker4237 4 жыл бұрын
@@kristafurdixon8121 : Many of these artists were lazy and shortsighted. They didn't ensure that these record labels weren't lying to them or try to slip clauses in the contract that overwhelmingly favors the record label. They didn't have lawyers and accountants of their own to watch over their affairs. Many artists gave away big records because they either wanted an upfront large payout or even they didn't think the record wouldn't do anything. A good example would be rapper Warren G. He's still trying to get the masters to his greatest record Regulate. Regulate is one of Rap Musics greatest song ever made. Def Jam EASILY made over $100 million dollars off the song. Their parent company Universal Records made far more. Don't let start with Rappers Delight by the Sugar Hill Gang. You want a great example of intellectual negligence and shortsightedness look no further.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@richardsalmon2134
@richardsalmon2134 4 жыл бұрын
Nicki didn't remake shit. She USED A SAMPLE from his song to make hers but the difference is his song was a hit while she tried to take samples from others hit records to try and score one for herself and yet she's still trying with nothing. She should've tried to be herself......
@phillipwalker4237
@phillipwalker4237 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardsalmon2134 : Interesting, I heard snippets of the record. I thought Nicki Minaj remade Baby Got Back like Britney Spears remade Bobby Brown's My Prerogative. Trash😫!! Thanks!!!🤔🤔🤔👍👍👍👍😁😁
@drich8807
@drich8807 4 жыл бұрын
If you're in the music industry, you need to listen to this!! Great video D!!
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@kareemsupremet.v.5189
@kareemsupremet.v.5189 4 жыл бұрын
Rule #1 Since Blacks are amazingly talented, and music is the second largest export out of the U.S. Make sure you hold all their masters for at least 32 years. Rule #2 first learn rule #1
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@BMUSIK101
@BMUSIK101 4 жыл бұрын
Explain how do you gain ownership?
@kareemsupremet.v.5189
@kareemsupremet.v.5189 4 жыл бұрын
@@BMUSIK101 stay independent
@kareemsupremet.v.5189
@kareemsupremet.v.5189 4 жыл бұрын
@@t.y.s.t.v that shit is 🔥
@mako7697
@mako7697 4 жыл бұрын
Every race has talent in it
@charlesriggins8988
@charlesriggins8988 4 жыл бұрын
The white man been take from Us as long as I been Alive. Am 50 years old and I must say that ALL Black Should be watching This Brotha Platform. Keep the content coming
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@ShotsMerkzAll
@ShotsMerkzAll 4 жыл бұрын
This is not about black or white. They don’t care about your colour. Do you think Jay Z or any black executive will give you a fair deal? Look at how amigos are being fucked over... This is a greed issue, lack of business sense, not white vs black or vice versa
@rtothe7068
@rtothe7068 4 жыл бұрын
It goes back further than that. All you have to do is watch a couple of episodes of Unsung to see that they’ve ALWAYS exploited black talent. And not just in music. Too bad we’re not the ones getting rich off of our natural abilities.
@prezakid9
@prezakid9 4 жыл бұрын
You Bro, White man is taking from the white man as well, as we speak, ya dig!
@prezakid9
@prezakid9 4 жыл бұрын
@Kuro Zee truth is the truth. Sorry if your offended, wasn’t my intention. Here let me put it to you more gently. My point was regardless of color or gender, record labels don’t discriminate when taking advantage of artists.
@Young_Zealous
@Young_Zealous 2 жыл бұрын
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@aboveorbit
@aboveorbit 4 жыл бұрын
I could see my label and Dorian partnering together. His rants give me chills. That’s the law of attraction working. Thank you God. And thank you Dorian for being a vessel my brother!
@malikabuz
@malikabuz 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree! He is calling it like it is!! With passion! Gets me riled up and pissed off too! These label suckers got to go! 😤
@robertpalmerjr1967
@robertpalmerjr1967 3 жыл бұрын
Real talk young cat.... I've been doing music since the late 80s and through out the 90s and refused to give up my masters then...if we've had the internet then ,it would of been a different case .. I'm not mad at you fam,, you keeps it real.. luv what you young cats are doing,, much respect to you.. continue to teach and wake our people up.....
@TheLivingTempest
@TheLivingTempest 4 жыл бұрын
Your music is yours alone. Become your own company and label. Period.
@swiatlowiekuiste
@swiatlowiekuiste 3 жыл бұрын
But you dont have the resources for worldwide promotion, so youll never be a star
@abffyf3r
@abffyf3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@swiatlowiekuiste I be wanting them to explain this part so bad
@abffyf3r
@abffyf3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@swiatlowiekuiste how can I make an living let alone be a star without the label power behind me pushing me now what I will say is that after the deal is up giving that you signed a minor deal you can than use that to start a independent career but with nothing its next to impossible
@swiatlowiekuiste
@swiatlowiekuiste 3 жыл бұрын
@@abffyf3r To build your career you need those advances from labels. How else you could focus on creating music and your artistic persona? It's bullshit that you could do all by yourself
@abffyf3r
@abffyf3r 3 жыл бұрын
@@swiatlowiekuiste unless you just that damn lucky and even still you need a distribution deal
@zenbyo
@zenbyo 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not even a music creator but i stumbled on one your vids and these different takes on how the industry works is so interesting. Salute.
@CeDubble
@CeDubble 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always said that master recordings are really generational wealth
@bounceenergydrink
@bounceenergydrink 4 жыл бұрын
Sony was founded in 1946, that is 74 years ago, the number one money revenue source is games { Playstation } then music. Sony is a publicly-traded company that is worth 80 Billion dollars, there is no one person that has a controlling interest. If a global conglomerate agrees to sign you, again they are { investing } in your career. If they advance you xxxxx, and spent xxxxx to blow you up, the masters to that recording belongs to them unless in your contract it states that you have the rights to buy back that master recording in xxxx amount of years, or xxxx amount of dollars. In the streets, if the plug fronts you the work, do you own that work, do you own the cars, the jewelry, the homes, not until that plug is paid back, in fact, he will own that revenue stream until you find another plug. There are not too many multi-platinum recording artists that are known worldwide without the financing and huge promotion of a major label, they are the plug. Can you make millions without them { yes } but are you more concerned with being a star, or a working artist. This is the problem and the difference. Take an artist like Tech-9, been grinding independently for years, has a decent net-worth about 15 Million. He's good, he's not concerned with the glamour, the major publicity, the label rented mansions and Lamborghinis, are you ready to grind 24 hours-7 days a week to try to make it?. So to sum it up what is the value of your {ip }it is only worth what $$$$ it brings back to you and to your investors. The majors are an { F } machine, an assembly line, a bank, they invest, throw it against the wall, if it sticks, they put more $$$$ behind it, if not it has no value, they lost money for their shareholders.I've worked for many years for both, Majors & independent, majors suck, I'm an independent guy, but I respect the major's muscle and long-established roads they have created for independents to do their thing. So, make music, create your lane, make a living off of what you do, but understand, you don't wake up and say I'm going to slay the dragon, that creates the food from which I eat, without them, there is no Spotify, there is no, live nation, there are no concert venues to play live events, etc. Billion-dollar companies create billion-dollar opportunities, and the crumbs that fall off of those tables help you build your empire, it helps you fuel your other business interests, ask { Kanye, Jay-Z, Puffy, Dr.Dre } you don't have to join them, but you should understand how the games were created, being played, and will continue to grow, or die and re-invent it's-self as we currently know it.
@DJFRANKNICE34
@DJFRANKNICE34 4 жыл бұрын
Word!! I AGREE!!!
@sonsoffunk4437
@sonsoffunk4437 4 жыл бұрын
FACTS ×1000 U SIR HAVE COMPLETELY BROKE IT DOWN *** SALUTE
@TheNumbasign2
@TheNumbasign2 4 жыл бұрын
Well said
@Mandology575
@Mandology575 4 жыл бұрын
bounceenergydrink Scooter Braun is that you?
@davidleonard1903
@davidleonard1903 4 жыл бұрын
Such a terrible analogy to equate it to the streets AT ALL!!!!! A plug in the street fronting you work, is nothing CLOSE to a label owning your masters. Imagine after your business is done with your plug and yall sever ties.......you either go find a different plug OR you stacked and saved enough to start your own operation.....but you STILL have to pay your ORIGINAL plug xxxx dollars for every bag you sell for the rest of your life- even tho yall aint in bed together anymore. He gets to eat off you PERPETUALLY, even after youve made him his money back 10x over.....is that fair?!?!? A label may put 3 million in to your first project- for an advance, budget, distribution, marketing, promotion, touring, etc......you drop an album and it goes platinum....youve already at least DOUBLED the money they put up for you in the first place. You get a couple of points and they keep majority of the revenue, residuals, royalties, etc. EVEN AFTER YOUR CONTRACT IS DONE, they still get to eat off of YOUR art for the rest of their lives. And dont let it be a 360 deal because then, youre REALLY fucked
@kirkstate
@kirkstate 4 жыл бұрын
I cosign everything you said bro 💯💯ownership over everything
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@bsquare5665
@bsquare5665 4 жыл бұрын
You speaking facts bro I plan on grinding independent even tho it’s considered more ground work but the reward is great once see the outcome
@LynnMacdonaldah
@LynnMacdonaldah 4 жыл бұрын
I like the straight talking on this . I am not an artist but if I was i would always go independent
@rdegraciamusic
@rdegraciamusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks God I was extremely ignored when I was active in the music business in my country. Now I don´t get a lot of money but everything I make is mine...
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@williamhudson2815
@williamhudson2815 4 жыл бұрын
Record labels are the devil's advocate.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@char.ger-3321
@char.ger-3321 3 жыл бұрын
If im correct, before Satan got sent to hell he used to be in charge of the choir in Heaven. So yeah he would prob have more influence in those areas.
@davidfontdevilarobles1505
@davidfontdevilarobles1505 4 жыл бұрын
What would u say if u invested in apple when they where working in the garage, and now they be like "u aint in the building helping us out with no technology or anything, so all the shares u bought back then, that are making u money now... yeah those we taking it back"???
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@smashville7303
@smashville7303 4 жыл бұрын
just caught wind of the video great content btw, its also sad that the artist gets pennies compared to these major labels
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@AngeloOne3
@AngeloOne3 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the knowledge you spreading means allot, and the frew book to, am av learnt and continue to learn about the music business before my music pops off
@lastking235
@lastking235 4 жыл бұрын
People laughed, but Tyler Perry owns his Madea Movie and Music Masters... That's why he's a Billionaire with the biggest studio in the world. Beating 100yr old companies like Universal. Masters, Masters, Masters... Ownership, Ownership, Ownership.
@Young_Zealous
@Young_Zealous 2 жыл бұрын
This should be your top viewed video I really feel like family whenever you said all this. Motivated the hell out of me
@Flip384
@Flip384 4 жыл бұрын
Folk be signing these slave contracts, & end up not owning "anything" these labels placate to people who come from dire circumstances, offer them a few dollars, & some notoriety next thing you know the artist have to tour their whole entire lives in order to pay the bills. Ownership is key, now with technology & social media you No longer need a label, you now can promote your art anywhere & it'll reach millions of people within seconds.
@PHPMuzik
@PHPMuzik 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with ya 100% Dorian about this being the era of independent artists because of streaming and us not needing the labels anymore, but at the same time I don't feel sorry for artists that signed away their masters for a quick upfront signing bonus that they later had to pay back to the labels. Nobody forced them to make that deal and if they were too stupid to actually research what they were signing then they deserve to have all their money taken from them. The labels spend millions in promotion for their artists, without the labels those artists would have been just another unknown artists that never sold anything and never made any money at all. The labels really did make them who they are especially their image that was promoted to the masses so I see the label as having every right to keep those masters and the money because it's a business and musical ability means nothing when it comes to business. With that being said I would never sign to a label because they really don't care about any of their artists. Streaming has liberated us hallelujah!!
@DephreeDog
@DephreeDog 4 жыл бұрын
Just recently had a label offer me a few grand for 50% of my new album... I said hell na!
@yakandjj
@yakandjj 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your passion and education. Me and my brother have had numerous deals but we walk away. I have over 500 songs and I am going to release it all. My own back catalog of 10 Albums. I have 5 new albums I want to do as well but no one would work with us because we read the contracts from American Idol to Making the Band. Sony, Atlantic Records with Craig. We have a great story to tell. You are 100% right and keep spreading that gospel message of your do it for yourself and keep it for yourself. Jrmar.
@quintonguidryb1-fba
@quintonguidryb1-fba 4 жыл бұрын
: May this info be of some worth to future artists. [True Story] They almost got me back in the 80s. I signed a contract (when I didn't know any better) which included granting the label MY publishing for $1. That's right, one dollar. I had an older uncle look over the contract. His only advice was, "you gotta get your foot in the door somehow". I didn't realize he was hating on me bc he was a so-called musician back in his day and didn't get anywhere. Well, in the end, I refused to record with them and just waited out my contract (4 years wasted). FYI: Always get: 1) A an entertainment lawyer; 2) An accountant; 3) A business manager/agent
@Joybuzzard
@Joybuzzard 3 жыл бұрын
It's worse than they say. The extortion is blatant. They punished bands for going independent. The major labels colluded for years with music media and radio networks so that once a band had been signed by a major label, they can't go back, if they go independent they get buried no matter how big they were at the time. In the 1970s, one of the biggest artists was Frank Zappa, he was so popular that the song 'Smoke On The Water' mentions him by name, millions and millions of records sold. But at a certain point he acquired his own masters and went independent, so you never hear his songs on 'classic rock' radio, music publications wouldn't mention his name, if a new artist cited him as an influence or mentioned touring with him they'd edit it out because they wanted to erase his name from the public memory. So we hear 'classic' artists today that didn't sell a tenth of what Zappa did, but barely hear a word about Zappa unless you look for it. Then there was Janes Addiction. They were so huge, the first Lolapalooza was literally Jane's Addictions tour, they started it, their songs were everywhere from 1988-1992, they were a huge influence on every 'grunge' band in the 90s, but that influence was erased by music media for years, no airplay, no mention in the many 'best of the 90s' type articles. So back then, if you were on a major label and you managed to acquire your masters, they would just bury you, you wouldn't make the same amount of money the label would have because the songs wouldn't get any airplay. No Matter how popular. We live in better times.
@orlandoturner8687
@orlandoturner8687 4 жыл бұрын
100% facts that's why they kill some artists off because they try to get what's rightfully their's that's why i respect Nipsey so much he had his masters
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@ohshititsghost7622
@ohshititsghost7622 4 жыл бұрын
"Acquisition of new talent" That line alone made me cringe...
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@timg.3326
@timg.3326 3 жыл бұрын
*The main problem we artist face, is the fact that the major labels have the 'distribution-reach' and access to the promo machine, that we (and the small independents) just don't have. They also have the $$ to inject initially upfront to break the artist into the comme3r4cial mainstream. So without them, it is next to impossible to go it alone, without getting into bed with the devil.*
@yusef9662
@yusef9662 3 жыл бұрын
Peace big brother that’s exactly what’s up true and exact, hopefully the artists will listen
@bigpluck51
@bigpluck51 4 жыл бұрын
All my life I used to dream of signing with a major label & being happy. Today? FUNK THAT! Prince already showed us the way! It's time we all band together & put the big record labels out of business!
@NBlack-zh4hx
@NBlack-zh4hx 4 жыл бұрын
That's why they killed Sam Cooke! He was about to start a music publishing company for brown people in the 60's. 🤨
@omarspaulding6858
@omarspaulding6858 4 жыл бұрын
Brother you're right on, they are pimping those ignorant artist.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@hersafari
@hersafari 4 жыл бұрын
The devil is a liar. When you sign that contract, you're selling your soul to the devil. You will be bound and a slave forever. That's why they're working their hearts out and getting nothing in return. Guys, just turn your lives to Jesus Christ!!!
@DephreeDog
@DephreeDog 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking the truth!
@mohd_allearz8403
@mohd_allearz8403 4 жыл бұрын
Jeez your sub count is increasing. Love seeing a brother doing good for other people. This mess needs to be heard
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
Post content everyday and people will show up. Glad y’all locking in.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@ehustleproductions4049
@ehustleproductions4049 4 жыл бұрын
That was great advice and funny as shit too!! LMAO!!!
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you lol. You subscribe
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@newsoundsharmon7085
@newsoundsharmon7085 4 жыл бұрын
You right. That's ashame.😢 Ppl. Have to be smarter in life. Be lifted 🙏
@MegaKingTom
@MegaKingTom 4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t the king of pop owned a lot of sonys masters?
@lykedady72
@lykedady72 4 жыл бұрын
Yep and they had something to do with his death. Shortly after MJ's death Sony reacquired the publishing MJ owed. They paid 750 million for it but MJ most likely would have never sold if he never died. They were responsible for the repeated child molestation charges as well.
@ryansaunders65
@ryansaunders65 4 жыл бұрын
You only become crazy and convicted in the court of media when you try to get or control your own chit... See Ye... MJ... Prince...
@lykedady72
@lykedady72 4 жыл бұрын
Lee Lee And you know even less.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@frankestrada4963
@frankestrada4963 4 жыл бұрын
To make matters worse, many of those record labels are irresponsible with the handling and safekeeping of the master tapes. Anyone recall that massive fire at Universal’s backlot back in ‘08? Thousands of masters perished.
@tevinjohns5965
@tevinjohns5965 3 жыл бұрын
This is how everything works. Industry exploits your skills, give you the most work and the least compensation.
@blackkatt2301
@blackkatt2301 4 жыл бұрын
Notice,the 2008 Sony fire,destroyed all the Masters of old black artist music that's not in play anymore after they have ate off those artist for year's.
@ProdbyNeevo
@ProdbyNeevo 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha....great content, information and delivery bro. Much love from KENYA
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta get to the motherland. Follow me on IG @doriangroup82
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc Independent Artist
@ndagger8
@ndagger8 4 жыл бұрын
Love the intro set-up. Then you came in while I was cussing. Facts!!!
@burnastelo1429
@burnastelo1429 3 жыл бұрын
"that should be your grand daughter" bruh that caught me so off gaurd holy shit that was funny
@CEEBrown
@CEEBrown 3 жыл бұрын
That whole bit had my stomach hurting from laughing. 😂 The slides to go with it did not help! 😂😂😂
@christophermiller6835
@christophermiller6835 3 жыл бұрын
No point of signing with a label no more!! I don't get why artist still do it.
@josephmcdonald9933
@josephmcdonald9933 4 жыл бұрын
My man you took the words right.out of my mouth. I sub off of that alone
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@Mr.Milla86
@Mr.Milla86 3 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna play my part out here in South Afrika !!!! thank you my brother for the enlightenment
@mostylz4613
@mostylz4613 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I discovered your platform. I’m an Ohio rap artist and would love to work with you. Keep spreading the knowledge! ✊🏾✌🏾
@MoBay876rc
@MoBay876rc 4 жыл бұрын
Columbus in da building 👊🏽 go check out my boys studio 4 point studio 🎙
@khufu23_
@khufu23_ 4 жыл бұрын
My guy you droppin knowledge fr this just made me wanna go harder for this independent shit we need to take our power back as the artist 💯
@DippedInInk
@DippedInInk 4 жыл бұрын
Pure facts. U just gave ppl FREE GAME.
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. And folks still complain smh. did you subscribe?
@ghostshellz752
@ghostshellz752 4 жыл бұрын
This rabbit hole runs deep! Great video keep up the grind!
@patrickmuhammad8799
@patrickmuhammad8799 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you family.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@markanthony6092
@markanthony6092 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely spot-on.
@anythinggoesviral
@anythinggoesviral 4 жыл бұрын
Yup that’s why they killed Michael for his
@Prynceyomi
@Prynceyomi 4 жыл бұрын
I love your stuff man. A fan n supporter for sure from Ghana West Africa
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you bro. You follow on IG too? @doriangroup82
@nofrenno8780
@nofrenno8780 4 жыл бұрын
Forgot about the money they put into real estate to be written off of tax ..but u got good content broskii
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
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@martinjones8915
@martinjones8915 4 жыл бұрын
What documentary was this from?? Anyone know the name to that docu series??
@stevea9963
@stevea9963 4 жыл бұрын
Sony has been suspected of killing their artists for their masters.
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc Independent Artist
@jerryh6284
@jerryh6284 3 жыл бұрын
You said it right brother! That weasel in the beginning, pissed me off!
@blazemike732
@blazemike732 4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel bro 👌 great content keep it coming! 💯
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
Inde Artist kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@swish8-832
@swish8-832 4 жыл бұрын
I find it quite confusing as to why people have a problem with record labels owning master recordings. If I have a studio and I put together artists, pay them, pay for their lunch, their transport, give them a place to sleep and use my electricity, time, money to pay an engineer to record mix and master... I feel like I should be entitled to an income stream that the song will get. Taking people's publishing is just wrong unless it can be negotiated fairly... but the one who pays for the recording should own the recording. I mean?????? Artists are given session fees and a percentage of the neighbor rights... not to mention the fact that once the label has made you a household brand the amount of money you will receive from endorsements, movie appearances, club appearances, features etc. it doesn't make sense how people are going crazy over masters. Look at all these rich artists who don't own their own masters. Of course there are shady deals out here, but the whole masters conversation is getting a bit corny for me. Just because certain deals are shady doesn't mean the whole record business is all crooked. Of course these days the tools are available to be able to record and put your music infront of people independantly, but most indie artists just don't have the proper support whether financially or just a good team of people behind them. Fuck man... just put yourself in the shoes of a person responsible for discovering musical talent, grooming them, recording them and promoting their music to the world... you should be entitled to some ownership of something fam... give me a break!!!
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky 4 жыл бұрын
Should they be entitled to "some ownership," or _full_ ownership *in perpetuity?* And who really "paid" for the recording? They end up billing the artists for all of those recording and marketing expenses anyway.
@swish8-832
@swish8-832 4 жыл бұрын
@@crnkmnky I say "some ownership"... but even if it's most of the pie man. They recoup yes. But the artist is able to negotiate otherwise if they have sufficient leverage. The artist is given an advance sometimes and multiple income streams. I feel like the label needs to make their money back and some profit somehow, and owning the master is one of the best ways to secure proper income for the label. Another thing that confuses me about the whole "master's" conversation is that masters have become less valuable because of piracy having become so sophisticated, and recording having become more accessible which caused certain musical styles and sound alike songs to be created in mass. Now a song's uniqueness can easily be copied and ad agencies alike can pay less for music... this is why 360 deals were created, for the label to be able to at least get money from the other multiple income streams that they created for the artist by making them a household brand. Certain master's are also weak man lol... I always hear people say that they like the live version more than the studio recording. So why are "master's" so important these days????? What is it really about??? Especially coming from rich artists? It just sounds like ungratefulness to me. Entitlement. Or maybe I just don't know my worth, but this is why I choose to record my own music myself, and a lot of other people do it. But if you're going to go the route of owning your own master's... you better be able to exploit them as sufficiently as the label's would or at least at a rate where they can make you proper income... otherwise, give away your master's and get a marketing machine behind you so that you can live your dreams fellow musician. Peace.
@adehela13
@adehela13 4 жыл бұрын
You're kind of beating around the bush here. What is a factory worth without workers? What is a school worth without teachers? What is a bus worth without the bus driver? Labels are the factory, the school, the bus BUT THE ARTISTS are the workers, the teachers, the bus drivers. Its CO-dependency, CO CO CO. The whole debate is about labels making it to be a one sided dependency where the artist gets screwed so many times.
@christopherjacobtv8204
@christopherjacobtv8204 4 жыл бұрын
What documentary was this? Can’t find it
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@AngryBrother360
@AngryBrother360 3 жыл бұрын
Many recording artist's have lost their (ART)!....... lives and fortunes over this legal criminality!.
@internationalhiphopscreenw7866
@internationalhiphopscreenw7866 4 жыл бұрын
Word. A change is necessary
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
Inde Artist kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@lastsinner4606
@lastsinner4606 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is dropping 💎's! Pay attention to people with knowledge! Love the channel
@harlembrown8987
@harlembrown8987 4 жыл бұрын
Yo...this is 100!! No 360 record deals. These people r demonic!!
@ChiefIzzy229
@ChiefIzzy229 Жыл бұрын
it's crazy how we don't place enough blame on those that sell or give away their masters. It's a cycle that starts with the artists or songwriters. They must understand the process and procedure of this music business & if not, they will get the negative end of the deal just as all other deals. Educate yourself, people & remove your feelings.
@sanzrich9887
@sanzrich9887 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, bro. Great..great content. I'm glad I waited to pursue a record deal now after watching this video. Word. Respect
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
It’s our time to do it all of ourselves
@rayandreapittman7251
@rayandreapittman7251 4 жыл бұрын
Great video bro. I learned alot. Miles Davis record got me tight too!
@PeachtreeFrenchies
@PeachtreeFrenchies 4 жыл бұрын
Thing is bra the artist didn't have to sign the contract. Warren G had family members in the industry why would he agree to give them up?
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
Inde Artist kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@nb1223
@nb1223 Жыл бұрын
I feel like some of us needed to hear it just the way you said it... RAW.
@mohd_allearz8403
@mohd_allearz8403 4 жыл бұрын
Something most people don't seem to understand
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
Inde Artist kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@kingdarring
@kingdarring 2 жыл бұрын
well detailed and explained bro! as a music producer, i really appreciate the information and content you provide for musicians!
@ImmortalTrainingOfficial
@ImmortalTrainingOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
“It should be your grand daughter” 😂😂
@better2807
@better2807 3 жыл бұрын
MICHAEL JACKSON told everyone about this. Specifically Sony
@songwriterconcepts
@songwriterconcepts 4 жыл бұрын
lmao 😂 bruh keep it RAW 💪🏾❤️❤️❤️
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
Everyday lol
@charlesjohnson3367
@charlesjohnson3367 4 жыл бұрын
☠️☠️☠️☠️
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
Inde Artist kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 3 жыл бұрын
If you are real one and want to grow you KZbin, Download TubeBuddy. It's Free. Helped me make over $40,000 from KZbin. Click Here: www.tubebuddy.com/doriangroup82
@beast4-prowomenbeauty-hete112
@beast4-prowomenbeauty-hete112 3 жыл бұрын
Bro... you forget they got connect with other business men who use your music for commercial use
@beast4-prowomenbeauty-hete112
@beast4-prowomenbeauty-hete112 3 жыл бұрын
Bro be careful... you giving out too much game
@chuckkiephan6880
@chuckkiephan6880 3 жыл бұрын
What about the many people that made the IPHONE, do they get a percentage? Apple keeps all the stuff
@Noodles1771
@Noodles1771 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I like the anger I always doubt it leads to actual questions about capitalism (hopefully I'm wrong). You can tell people to be independent all you want - the system will remain unchanged, your possible (and unlikely) success will be no threat to it. Listen to some Chomsky friend: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaCxgIRtgbKFbsU
@Nash315
@Nash315 2 жыл бұрын
Bro as indie artists we have to build leverage and retain ownership! Just think once you’ve built your fan base your masters will be worth enough to sell to any major label for 100s of millions. Why work for the label when you can hustle them and play the game like they do?
@symphonybarbers8237
@symphonybarbers8237 4 жыл бұрын
great information for anybody in the music business, always think Big Picture!
@DorianGroup82
@DorianGroup82 4 жыл бұрын
🦆🦆🦆🦆
@t.y.s.t.v
@t.y.s.t.v 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYemnZyubcuMaLc Independent Artist
@DephreeDog
@DephreeDog 4 жыл бұрын
This helped me so much!
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