Why Larry Bird is BETTER THAN LeBron James

[@greywind4249]

"Clutch Gene" is the astrology of basketball discussion.

[@OmoiiX]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dondro9967]

Really? How is "makes everyone around him better” any different? I get what u mean bc it’s something that can’t really be measured but just has a strong enough belief system ppl kinda just will into being real but I think a lot of arguments that specifically benefit Lebron feel the same way. A crop of all star/hall of fame talent have consistently shown that playing with Lebron leaves them statistically worse as players from most metrics but ppl will still blindly say otherwise solely dependent on how far the team goes in the playoffs. But when Kobe or someone shoots poorly in the "clutch” y’all wanna check the stats immediately and override the clutch gene analysis lmao. Practically every talking point in basketball has no validity if u wanna look at it that way. Can we even say that arguments such as "Lebron is the GOAT because of his basketball IQ!!” Isn’t any different? How can u truly measure "IQ” besides using the same basis of evaluation that ppl who ramble on about the clutch gene use; the elusive "eye test”? Or what’s the difference between someone saying Player A is better than Player B bc of their clutch gene and someone going well Player A is better than Player B bc of their basketball IQ? Lebron’s entire argument for goat is built off fault astrology based arguments so I don’t mind leading with the clutch gene argument when favoring someone like Kobe, Mike or even Bird. It’s only fair🤷‍♂️

[@MiamiHeat810]

@@dondro9967 you spitten

[@entername9179]

@@dondro9967 Basketball IQ is measured by much they make the right play. People with good turnover to assist ratios and people who have good efficient shot selection with good defensive rotations are considered high IQ

[@leoster6118]

Remove "mamba mentality" "clutch gene" we can even remove lebrons "make everyone else better" argument and there isnt a single player other than Jordan and Kareem that Lebron hasnt surpassed yet

[@ewgrosslmao]

The excitement in his voice Everytime he talked about Bird is making me feel like he is a bit bias

[@brianbadonde9251]

He's 100% biased, his entire channel is nothing but old school basketball. He's said multiple times he hates the modern era.

[@Superman30970]

Basketball time machine is 100% oldhead personality wise. He’s absolutely biased

[@tiktokexposed898]

His arguments are inconsistent and stupid asf😂 their peaks matter when it comes to scoring but when it comes to defense its lebrons worst vs Larry's best? 🤣🤣

[@vitoguard6161]

The checklist is the worst way to compare players in the NBA

[@feedfrc6861]

Adding lazy context takes and zero advanced stats makes it even worse.

[@calmtree6521]

Chris Paul beats curry off the check list

[@vitoguard6161]

@@calmtree6521 yeah true and that’s why it’s so flawed

[@yurinoworry]

@@calmtree6521 because Chris Paul is a better “technical” basketball player than Curry but not better overall. Checklist only lets you see who is “technically” better.

[@ionlikedayts4367]

@@yurinoworry checklist only lets you see who can do more, cameron payne is better than curry by doing checklist

[@Jeff_2x]

Bro besides MJ and probably Kareem what’s with this obsession with everyone being better than Bron?

[@anthonycelestin3559]

Why is Kareem always in this convo? MJ, Kobe and Lebron never averaged 17 PPG & 14 PPG in any of their Finals runs like Kareem did in 87 & 88

[@joshcristoffpanlilio7799]

They just love to hate bron man its annoying

[@nate8655]

@Anthony Celestin first of all kobe is barely top 10 but second bron averaged 18ppg in 2011 and third Your a dumbass if u think 2 finally performances when he's mad old define the career of the man who ran the 70s

[@anthonycelestin3559]

@@nate8655 Talking about regular season & thats your opinion that Kobe isn’t top 5 or barely top 10, that’s not consensus

[@anthonycelestin3559]

@@nate8655 Kareem ran the 70s but wasn’t the best player or leader of those 80s Lakers team. Y’all use the same narrative about Kobe saying he played with Shaq. Unlike Kareem, Kobe won 2 consecutive chips without Shaq. Kareem won 1 chip in 1971 in the weakest era, so weak that the NBA was on tape delay in the 70s, so weak that Kareem won an MVP missing the playoffs for 2 consecutive years. Then after 71 with Kareem having mediocre success in the playoffs getting outplayed by Dave Cowens, Bill Walton, Nate Thurmond & 37 year Wilt & missed the playoffs 2 years got saved by Magic. Kobe contributed more to his chips than Kareem, Kareem just got longevity having no injuries at all, more total stats like points & more accolades with the MVPs from the 70s in the weak era

[@JoshuaALockhart]

I think these are the same people who said that they would instead take Denzel Valentine and Buddy Hield over Ben Simmons, Jaylen Brown, and Brandon Ingram in the 2016 NBA Draft. “Because lack experience and and they are immature” lmao

[@Armenian_King]

Holding somebody’s draft thoughts against them is crazy. I would’ve had some of the worst draft decisions ever lol

[@elivandrisse]

@@Armenian_King yeah but the dumb reasons are what we're more looking at here, still agree if we were talking about the players then yeah its dumb to hold draft thoughts against people

[@legendarywiimaster]

I’m taking everyone you mentioned over Ben Simmons because I don’t want guys who won’t shoot or score on my team. Also, I don’t want playoff chokers and someone who didn’t even participate in practice. Man passed up a wide open dunk

[@legendarywiimaster]

@Christian Labbate I said this 3 months ago during the off-season when Ben sat out. But now I would take Ben as long as he actually puts in work and plays

[@legendarywiimaster]

@Christian Labbate not anymore. Ben has been HORRID this season. Like his defense is gone, and he regressed like crazy

[@johncena4096]

I think Larry bird is very underrated but he has no argument over lebron

[@TyBrezzy11]

how old are you?

[@johncena4096]

@@TyBrezzy11 anyone with any basketball knowledge regardless of age knows Lebron is better than bird

[@luistorres8005]

@@johncena4096 that’s incorrect

[@hetp490]

@@luistorres8005 nah get off ur knees cuh i aint even a bron stan but mj and bron 1 and 2 and it aint even close

[@AnObliviousCelticsFan]

@@hetp490 It's close but Lebron is still better imo as a Celtics fan.

[@christopherlawson2606]

There is a difference between scoring and scoring ability. In my opinion scoring should be based on ppg and total points. Scoring ability is the the ability to score from multiple points on the court on a good to great percentage. That's why I say LeBron is a better scorer but Bird had better scoring ability.

[@Anthony01538]

There’s also efficiency. IDC if you average 30PPG for your career and you have over 35K total points if you’re taking 30 shots to get it. I agree LeBron is a better scorer, I’m just pointing something out.

[@suryapanditi3161]

@@Anthony01538 So more height automatically means you have it easier on the court? I don’t think so cause shorter players are usually faster so would it not even out?

[@Nightmare-we8vm]

@@suryapanditi3161 Not exactly. Taller players have multiple advantages like reach, shot height, vision potential. The best of smaller players are great at using what they have and playing around those disadvantages like curry shooting from the half court line

[@zion9247]

@@Anthony01538 so center should dominate the league but they dont pg is the most stacked position lmao

[@panashe5268]

@@zion9247 That’s because we’re moving further and further away from scoring at the basket due to the impact the 3 point line has. You can be a dominant big and score all 2s and have 40 points, all the other team needs to do is make 14 threes to match your production offensively. Someone like Steph can get 8 out of those 14 by himself. Doesn’t mean what dude said is any less valid though, someone who is 6ft8 will always get chosen by coaches over someone 6ft1 just because of that “potential” due to their height, wingspan etc. making it easier for them to be a more impactful player.

[@AdamWestTheDrunk]

I consider myself a huge LeBron hater but I'm not gonna lie, as of lately I've been defending LeBron a lot lately because every LeBron debate turns into a "players now are soft" debate or a "if x players was playing today they would average 40" debate and honestly I'm tired of the slander for nba that are playing now when it's compared to 90s or 80s players

[@TheBeybladeMechanics]

Honestly agree. They say this era is soft but back in the day they would just bump into each other because most players back then aren't skilled as players of now. They complain that zone defense wasn't allowed but zone defense exposed players who only relied on their athleticism to past by their defenders.

[@Herosennin]

@@TheBeybladeMechanics No they bumped into players because it was ALLOWED. That's the entire point of it next to the enormous amount of spacing stars have today in comparison to other era's. Just look at this year in which players are allowed to play defense and compare it to last years in which multiple players scored over 30 or near 30? This year only KD averages 29. The rest is around 25 points. That's what happens when defense is actually allowed and players dont get bailed out with 10 free throws per game for minimal touches.

[@calebthedubsfan7397]

@@Herosennin Lebron James is averaging 29 points per game on +8% relative true shooting this season at age 37. What were MJ's scoring stats at 37? Oh wait he was retired. What were Bird's scoring stats at 37? Oh he was retired as well. What were Kobe's scoring stats at 37? He averaged 17.6 points per game on -7.2% relative true shooting. Your take aged didn't age too well

[@Herosennin]

@@calebthedubsfan7397 When did I mention Lebron? Weird flex bruh are you like having conversations with yourself in your head?

[@calebthedubsfan7397]

This is a video about Lebron James, the comment you replied to was about Lebron. And you basically said, “Look what happens when they allowmore physicality on defense and people don’t get their 10 FT attempts per game, KDs averaging 29 and everyone else is around 25. Maybe I misunderstood what you were saying, but to me, it sounded a lot like a dig at Lebron and that you were saying a 6’8 250 pound athletic freak wouldn’t be as good in the more “physical” game. I was just pointing out that Lebron is putting up similar scoring numbers to his prime years, despite the fact that he’s 37 and the NBA is allowing a lot much more physicality this year. I’m not even some massive Lebron fan, but I do believe he’s the 2nd best basketball player of all-time and that he would be an All-time great no matter which era he played in.

[@hadisoultan7502]

Imagine actually thinking Bird is better ☠️

[@handlebucket6285]

Imagine thinking there is no debate to be had.

[@whoeva23]

@@handlebucket6285 exactly!! like can we not act like these aren’t some of the greatest players of all time the gap is not that much whether u think bird or lebron is better. I dont think bird is better but i do feel like bird has beem getting extremely disrespected in recent years because he is an un-athletic white guy

[@Kikitherealestt]

@@handlebucket6285 because it should'nt be a debate with lebrons' resume and stats rn

[@reggie7408]

@@handlebucket6285 there is no debate😂 Lebron clears and it’s not even close

[@juliothom2408]

I was there, It's way closer than you think. Especially in today's game. Prime Bird was 50/40/90 going 28/10/7 and 2 steals. Bird put up similar numbers when Bird was NEVER the primary ball handler and had a way lower usage rate than LBJ. Pre-Injury Bird was All NBA 2nd team and led the league in DWS 4 times.

[@GoatProductions]

Hot take: sage and Benjamin are a dynamic duo

[@gtnajee6601]

Better than agent and Low?

[@whitesticcwilly8907]

@@gtnajee6601 they both goated. No point in having a debate.

[@Raghuveer2798]

With all due respect to Bird, LeBron is just better man. C'mon.

[@luistorres8005]

He really isn’t tho

[@eghoseisiramen1892]

@@luistorres8005 is larry bird in teh top 10?

[@karanveerdhillon7867]

@@eghoseisiramen1892 Yea he is but LeBron is top 3

[@rgreen1107]

C’mon man ! Larry Bird is is a different class than Lebron ! Leflop overrated ! King Larry over Queen James all day long !

[@KingKeSeanBrown]

@@luistorres8005 no bron better

[@itzwakk335]

the 80s is one of the fastest paced eras lol, main difference is lack of 3pt volume

[@floijd]

13:42 "Larry Bird is probably one of the toughest guys who ever lived on this planet." This statement, in my humble opinion, might be just a tad exaggerated.

[@andrewm7351]

nah if you watch his and magic documentary together, Bird went through some tough shit in his childhood

[@brady_2k]

Def not, he’s played and been through some serious shit

[@nikeman116]

@@andrewm7351 yeah and I’m pretty sure there are tougher women around the world who have been through more shit. No hate. The point is it’s still exaggerated

[@xertifiedthicc]

@@nikeman116 tbf larry lived in poverty at an early age, worked as a garbageman, and such a joe that he was willing to shovel his mom's road off of snow instead of calling and paying someone else to do it. he is a tough nut but for sure there is a tougher nut, it is how it is. but yeah he was tough

[@nikeman116]

@@xertifiedthicc man I’m not tryna downplay birds life. I have lived an easier one myself. But I’ve gone to school with kids who had to work so much so young they didn’t have time to even play sports for fun let alone and organized sport

[@davidkayeye]

That title shook me

[@cameronjws]

This dude is just echoing skip Bayless points lmao

[@sufyaankhan4686]

he lied on the rebounding department, LeBron averages 7.4 rebounds per game, less than Bird, but ye he lied

[@siya2195]

The narrative that LeBron is not clutch is BS and I don't know we're it comes from

[@yeeps119]

Skip Bayless

[@alarrim29574]

That one series in Miami when he choked

[@prod.sah1l]

@@alarrim29574 yesterday schooled your statement and dropped 3 clutch threes to win the game 🐐

[@alarrim29574]

@@prod.sah1l I didn’t say he ain’t clutch. I said that’s the only ammunition to back up that statement that he isn’t clutch

[@1990POE]

@@alarrim29574 yeah but every great had series where they flamed out. Whether Jordan, bird, magic, shaq, Kobe etc. it happens. Difference is people deem them as forgiven because what they accomplished after. But don’t give Lebron the same credit.

[@actioninmyphannypack]

Dude was inconsistent throughout the whole video bruh. He used stats for a couple parts, but refused to use them in others. In terms of defense, he didn’t point out that LeBron averaged more steals and blocks per game than Bird, and that’s over a 13 year period for both

[@shroudenightwind8997]

What stats are you looking at? ... Larry and Lebron are deadlocked at .8 blocks a game and Larry beats James in steals at 1.7 to 1.5. If you are going to compare them look it up properly.

[@actioninmyphannypack]

@@shroudenightwind8997 In the 13 year period, not his whole career.

[@rojeliocastro9733]

In terms of rebounding, I'd like to see their success rate on attempted rebounds, not just career averages. I remember Sports Science doing an analysts on Bron's rebounding efficiency and he was on par with prime DJ & Howard (if I remember correctly)

[@loushendrikyung5546]

Somehow era is brought up everywhere but when it's against. Wasn't rebounding what 3pointers is today

[@RonnieG]

Birds rebounding % was better than Patrick Ewings.

[@H2O_Malone]

i used to watch BTM and omg hes the typical old head everyone stereotypes. pretty much he thinks every player from the 80s and 90s are better than LBJ, Steph, and KD by a huge margin. This dude is an absolute clown. I wouldnt be suprised if he said bill lambier is better than Joel Embiid.

[@alexandreavelar9384]

I used to watch some of his videos to learn a bit about old school ball, but in one of his recent videos he said he would draft Charles Barkley before LeBron, I clicked off so fast 😂😂😂 dude's 100% a stereotypical bitter old head

[@Superman30970]

Dude said he would draft 7 90s players over Lebron. SEVEN. Huge oldhead mentality

[@karanveerdhillon7867]

@@handlebucket6285 Je also said he would draft 7 90s players over LeBron, that immediately invalidates anything he has to say about basketball again

[@robinilouga]

He is a jordan fan of course he hates lebron

[@TheIcemanthomas]

@@karanveerdhillon7867 depends on the players. It’s perfectly reasonable to draft mj, shaq, or Hakeem, over lebron. The other 4 idk.

[@Jeff_2x]

LMAOOO bro had to nerf LeBron to give Bird a chance in this debate

[@sethrobinson9291]

Exactly and no one wants to talk about it. His entire debate was faulty and lacked context

[@ssj-rose4572]

But we all know lebron is to soft to play in the 80s and 90s

[@shadyaov7041]

@@ssj-rose4572 his flopping definitely wouldn't work in those eras

[@sethrobinson9291]

@@shadyaov7041 He exaggerates because he won’t get calls anytime else

[@sethrobinson9291]

@@ssj-rose4572 what type of argument is that. The same guy who dominates the game now because of physicality wouldn’t handle it??? 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Ho_Lii_Fuk]

This hasn't even been a convo after Bron's Miami years lol

[@yungrezzno763]

he got something against lebron lmao

[@robinilouga]

He is a jordan fan. He hates today's nba that's why.

[@Luca-yb4sh]

Carefully neatpicks a couple of bad defensive possessions by LeBron (despite saying he would consider both in their prime). "The guy had the biggest heart". And proceeds to neatpick a couple of blocks by Bird. Yeah, I'm out, the guy is a clown. Oh and isn't LeBron literally the clutchest player ever by stats?

[@luistorres8005]

No

[@richgreens5399]

Yeah he’s the most efficient in last seconds shots all time

[@rlmalonzo1184]

Dude wacth thinking basketball's lebron last 3 games in the 2016 finals. And the dude was 6x all defense and finished 2nd in DPOY

[@buchulesobayeni6445]

@@luistorres8005 yes

[@luistorres8005]

@@buchulesobayeni6445 no

[@iwannatalktosampson5852]

Man said larry bird had the biggest heart so therefore him & lebron on defense is a wash 🤣🤣🤣😭😭💀

[@hepwo91222]

Bird was actually a good defender and made some of the biggest stops in playoff history. Ever see the Eastern Finals playoff game when Bird stole an Isiaih Thomas inbounds pass with 2 seconds left?

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@hepwo91222 that was lit

[@Klegend1750]

@@hepwo91222nah stop it 🤣🤣🤣

[@netsu6019]

@@hepwo91222have u ever heard blocked by james in game 7 against the the team dat when 73-9

[@hepwo91222]

@@netsu6019 OK, didn't Bird steal an inbounds pass from Isiaih Thomas to beat the Pistons that would later play in 3 straight finals? Bird made big defensive plays in with the game on the line in the playoffs too.

[@purerage7812]

That man deserves to not have a basketball platform anymore

[@anthonysava1769]

Ikr 😂

[@arc283429]

There are a lot of people who don't deserve a basketball platform. A lot of NBA youtubers are idiots

[@legendarywiimaster]

Fac

[@Vezuls]

When bringing up passing “Larry bird played with multiple super stars and had to share touches.” Yeah… so how does that strengthen Larry’s case? If anything that weakens it. That means larry had super stars to assist constantly. Lol

[@MRHIMDOWNSTAIRS12]

Lmao and he still averaged the same amount of assist

[@carsoncottrell4435]

@@Mamarozan well think about all the superteams of this era then think about the superteams of the 80s there's been about 10 other superteams besides LeBrons while in the 80s there's been 1 besides Larry's also that Cavs team wasn't a superteam

[@MrSlashblade]

@@Mamarozan it’s only Wade There’s no argument that any of those guys but Wade is better then McHale of all people (AD is more talented but in reference to era, I’m not gonna sit here and pretend that McHale wasn’t literally the best PF in the 80s no question) and Parish you have only Wade Davis and Westbrook all time but not as Lebrons teammate.

[@kmc19xx59]

Russ ad melo

[@carsoncottrell4435]

@@kmc19xx59 AD always hurt Melo is a 6 man and a role player and Russ doesn't fit with the team and misses open layups

[@FadeAwayClan]

Man y’all obsessed with lebron 😂 stop lying to yourself you know damn well bird ain’t better then bron 💀 u can get away with saying bird over kd even tho most know kd is better but saying bird over lebron is straight up bs.

[@arc283429]

The majority of people think Bird is better than KD. But I do agree I would rather have KD

[@rgreen1107]

KD over Lebum too ….

[@blerdbuffetpodcast8730]

Larry bird had some really bad playoff games and series. He also won ring while not winning finals MVP. What Larry and Magic did for basketball in 80s cannot be quantified so its hard for me to say whether bird is better than lebron. Although i have Lebron number 3 all time lol

[@karanveerdhillon7867]

The problem with Bird’s first ring is not that he wasn’t fmvp since you can be a huge reason for a chip without being a fmvp, like Kobe during the three peat, or even be the best player on your team and not win it like Curry in 2015. In Bird’s first championship run, his scoring was awful in those finals, he dropped 8 points twice in those finals and only averaged around 15 ppg for the series, and even though he played well in other aspects, he was far from his regular season form, which is surprisingly a constant theme throughout his career

[@kahukuracollinsmohi]

Just interested, who do you have Lebron behind? Jordan and who?

[@elivandrisse]

@@kahukuracollinsmohi prolly kareem

[@ldybozz]

What are you talking about? Larry was MVP 3 yrs in a row. THE FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE 50-40-90 club. Meaning the first. Larry was a 3x All Defense Select, 59 career def wins, lead NBA in def win shares 4x. He played with a broken finger & back throughout his career. And surgeries on both achilles. Has Lebron played hurt?

[@brv_go9331]

@@ldybozz are you arguing Larry over Lebron rn?

[@cbandz615]

Reggie Miller lost his mind

[@ElijahThomas-Miranda-t3n]

No

[@90oftheworldisdumb3]

When you guys talk about Larry Bird, not being more clutch than LeBron the reality is Larry Bird was the most clutch player to ever play the game until Michael Jordan came around but I understand when you’re young everything Hass to be about stats

[@nicolasfierro2143]

larry birds shooting percentage fell off in clutch moments he doesn’t have a clutch gene he missed more clutch shots than he made go actually look it up

[@is.that.Mazzi.]

The fact that they keep track of “clutch” shots(Game Winning Shots) so he could’ve just used those to see who has more Game Winning or Game Tying Shots😂 buddy just wanted to choose Larry Bird.

[@hepwo91222]

Bird in his day was being called the best player ever, much like Lebron. I think what hurts Bird case vs Lebron is BIrd only played about a dozen seasons, where Lebron is in his 20th and is still playing well.

[@theowenstuart]

what a way to get viewers to click instantly.

[@julianyoung5085]

Why is this even a debate lmaoooo

[@davondixon6292]

I feel that yall reaction is bias. Every point he made for Larry bird you 2 had a rebuttal for. Even made rebuttals for points that he didn't make but when it's a point for lebron yall just accept it n agree. Seems very 1 sided and not objective

[@danielkearns8155]

That’s bc this versus battle is very one sided😂 Lebron is clear of Larry bird

[@davondixon6292]

It's closer than you think. You gotta go back n watch them games. Lebron is a freak of nature and Larry bird is an anomaly. Both great players

[@letarivera203]

I agree I don't appreciate how they acting like Larry aint Larry! Man Larry Legend is a real one! He is a better shooter and rebounder by far. He is fantastic at droping dimes and I dont care if you cant jump over a sheet of paper athleticism aint everything and we've seen non athletic people do damage to the leauge. Jokic, Luka, Dirk who beat a primeMiami Heat team just to name a few. Come on man respect please thats all I ask because LBJ has been done up by plenty of people that dont got a fraction of Birds talent Jason Terry anyone???

[@haamidroberts5771]

He's not acting like Larry isn't Larry. That guy is a legend for a reason, however, the guy in videos arguments were very one sided and biased. He literally had to take something away from LeBron in order to make Larry Bird seem better. Larry was not a better defender, passer, or rebounder than LeBron. The accolades and the numbers tell the story and even if they don't the eye test more than makes up for them.

[@ItsD858]

Yo I’m really diggin the new content🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@boydriceisawesome2520]

Im not

[@shanemcbride3055]

I love your video essays, continue to do them, but do more of these videos. Even doing what LOW and Agent did would be a good idea. I enjoy this type of video with you and sage

[@JBird_Gaming]

Literally just seemed like he was favoriting Bird the whole video 😭💀😂

[@hepwo91222]

he saw BIrd and Lebron as did I. Why I would give Lebron the edge is on longevity, peak though? I would rather have Bird.

[@kvngcjgaming5559]

@@hepwo91222 peak bron won mvp and 2nd in DPOY?? How tf is bird peak better lmaooo

[@bryant888]

@@kvngcjgaming5559 right? Lmao

[@theunknown7441]

@@hepwo91222 if derick rose did not rigged the vote he will become the third 3 straight mvp winner

[@hepwo91222]

@@theunknown7441 Bird was the runner up a few times for MVP also, his best statistical season he was the runner up to MJ. I am saying Lebron has 2 decades of consistently great play, I think all time I would rank him ahead of Bird overall, but for peak, I think Bird's peak was better than Lebron, but its close.

[@ARealPerson21]

The Larry Bird disrespect in this video and comment section is ridiculous people acting like they are comparing Lebron and Anthony Bennett

[@theunknown7441]

Larry is a legend top 7 maybe but not better than bron

[@ARealPerson21]

@@theunknown7441 I’m not saying Larry is the 2nd or 3rd best player ever but they were disrespecting him to the point you would think he never made an all star team

[@neiljoysey9684]

The rebound thing is crazy, players shooting percentages now being higher on the whole has a huge effect rebounding totals. Not to mention that Bron had been told to leak out for the fast break his whole career. How many fast breaks do you remember Bird finishing, yeah me neither.

[@hepwo91222]

Bird was great on the fast break, you want to watch some true poetry in motion, watch Bird on a give and go fast break, it was great basketball.

[@xaviervega468]

@@hepwo91222 If you are leading a break and you have prime Bron and prime Bird on your wings, Lebron is getting the ball every time.

[@hepwo91222]

@@xaviervega468 can't disagree with that, Lebron is one of the best ever finishers on a fast break, but I did enjoy a team fast break on 80's Celtics where everyone was running and you weren't sure who was scoring, could say the same about the Showtime Lakers too.

[@SEANIEHSHINE]

I really like this set up🤷🏿‍♂️

[@crystallinekicks3986]

From 85 - he retired, Larry played with a broken back that would lose its structural stability. It would lock up in abnormal positions. He would have to get adjustments just to be able to play. He didn't even use any pain meds, shots, etc. Yet he was still able to dominate and put up stats. Thats just one of the injuries that he played with. He led the league in 3 pointers twice 85,86. FIRST 3pt contest winner in 86 then 87, 88. MVP 84 , 85, 86. It took Bird just two seasons to get his first ring whereas it took James nine. Larry turned the Celtics around his first season. From a 29 - 53 season to 61 - 21 season. Larry's one of 8 hall of famers to win rookie of the year & be named to the all NBA first team. The only one so far to have those honors after Larry is Tim Duncan. Not even Magic, Jordan, KD or Lebron have such honors. Has Lebron even made it to the 50/40/90 club? Lebron's best season FT%,(.780) is lower than Larry's worst season FT%(.836). Larry's career FT% is higher (.886) than Lebron's (.734). Larry's career 3pt percentage (.376)is better than Lebron's(.345). Larry's career DRB% 22.37, Lebron's 18.69. In playoffs Larry's DRB% 21.38. Lebron's 21.34. Lebron isn't even in the ranking of Basketball Ref list of NBA & ABA Career Leaders and Records for 3-Pt Field Goal Pct. Larry did all that playing 457 LESS games than Lebron.

[@alexanderpaschal9625]

ok Lebron is still vastly better we really dont care if bird is better at fuckin rebounding and really the franchise oh bird got his ring first cuz he had a competent franchise vs lebron who received no help and was unwillling to do all he could so that Lebron could receive help vs red aurebach arguably the greatest owner/gm ever and ok 50 40 90 imma be real that stat means nothing when it comes to whose better nash had many 50/40/90 seasons is he better than Kobe? shaq ? tim duncan ? allen iverson fuck no all ur points are weak as hell if imma be honest i shouldnt have even entertained ur argument

[@livingrentfree9596]

So to summarize your argument, you think Larry is better because he's a better free throw and 3pt shooter, being a better defensive rebounder, won his first ring before Bron, and won rookie of the year while becoming an all nba first team So to summarize my rebuttal, stop watching/analyzing basketball.

[@d3va383]

Bird gets worse in the playoffs, has less rings than lebron and has less finals mvps than lebron. Lebron’s more clutch (no contest), a better overall defender and a better (although close) passer. Are you saying bird’s better than kareem because he’s a better 3 point shooter or a better free throw shooter? No you’re not stop with this shit. When Lebron averaged 3.3 3s a game he shot 40.6% from 3. Meanwhile Larry averaged the same amount with 38.9% from 3. The 3 point shooting is pretty close, though larry is better in a vaccum. And you’re acting like Lebron didn’t impact his team more than anyone ever. Bro left the cavs when they won like 60 games and the season after, they won less than 20

[@Xenon-h9z]

"Bird has less rings" Yeah his career was a lot shorter due to injuries that would have ended Bron. Also.... fewer. Please watch some Johnny Arnett vids. You know nothing. @@d3va383

[@bigboybenny2854]

Love this duo!! Keep up the good work

[@SK2NICE]

Where’s the respect to lebron man people still hate to put him on the pedestal. The man is the king of basketball he’s already better than mj

[@imanolvides3185]

I think bron needs more respect from oldheads too. But idk bout him being better than mj

[@rgreen1107]

Because Queen Lebron is not better than Jordan ! Lebron not even top 10 ! Most overrated Player in history of NBA !

[@alarrim29574]

He ain’t better than Jordan and the reason people dislike him is the way he acts on and off the court.lebron 2nd all time but mj the goat

[@prod.sah1l]

@@rgreen1107So ur the unknown cousin of Danny and Gerald green 💀

[@kofiboakye6173]

@@alarrim29574 he's better than Jordan

[@goldhound4389]

Give me 2018 lebron over anybody if i had to take anybody over lebron during that time it would be mj in 92 but other than that 2018 lebron was different

[@luistorres8005]

2018 Lebron would lose to too many players so you just want a loser who stat pads and plays no defense I see

[@goldhound4389]

@@luistorres8005 stat pads and plays no defense?? Stfu kid

[@wildcat_savage96-33]

@@luistorres8005 casual

[@luistorres8005]

@@wildcat_savage96-33 ya mamma

[@theunknown7441]

@@luistorres8005 ya papa oh you don't have one because he left you. Bum

[@irishgrl]

Pfft. Larry Bird > LeBron. Longevity don’t mean SQUAT.

[@harrisonlayden6796]

Larry is easily more clutch than Lebron

[@sub-zero464]

Impossible

[@harrisonlayden6796]

@@sub-zero464 how?

[@sub-zero464]

@@harrisonlayden6796 LeBron got the most game winners in post season history with 7 Also has the second most clutch shots made in NBA history with 97

[@rgreen1107]

For sure !!!!!!

[@B00MR0ASt3D]

The disrespect to combat athletes, soldiers, and heroes around the world to say that Larry Bird is one of the toughest man to ever walk the earth and specifically clarify you don’t mean just basketball

[@joweydelanota7421]

The disrespect these kids have for Larry bird is mind boggling. I'm not taking Lebron over Larry Bird. Period. People who grew with Lebron do not understand that back in the day they would have taken away Lebron's athletism. Unlike Jordan Lebron has always been a terrible shooter and post up player. The league had guys like that who are not in the HoF for a reason.

[@richgreens5399]

Seen the Jordan stuff in the background knew what he was on also I’m sorry but LeBron and bird ain’t close especially now LeBron is at the status of an argument of 1 & 2 all time honestly 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@hepwo91222]

recency bias much? Will people still feel that way a decade from now? In 30 years when some current player is compared to Lebron will young fans that never saw Lebron laugh at comparisons to the year 2050 Superstar X? I Mean Bird in the 80's was being called by many the greatest player ever, not kidding. It seemed like he was contending for a title, MVP, and a 50/40/90 season like every year. The issue I have with Bird is his career was cut short due to injuries.

[@MoXy33]

Constructive criticism time: This channel has gone weird, these videos seem incoherent and messy, some people might like it but I definitely appreciate more production quality, maybe take turns because sometimes one of you take over mid-take/thought. Reaction videos are fine but the subject needs to be interesting/relevant. Otherwise, cool video!

[@leroyrodgers6089]

I was going to say the same, but I didn't want to get attacked by people.

[@assibeysteven4033]

I mean fair point. But also consider that that may not be what on which they want you to focus; They have great knowledge and banter and I don’t know if it’s just me but I’d watch this over First Take any day in spite of the low quality.

[@MoXy33]

@@leroyrodgers6089 Same man, nearly deleted it haha glad some people agree at least :D

[@MoXy33]

@@assibeysteven4033 Fairs, I definitely see that alotta people are enjoying it.

[@BornTroublesome]

I agree

[@williamblackfyre4866]

I like Sage and Solz but man...they seems to have a recency bias. I don't know if it's backlash against the older people that glorify the 80s and 90s style of ball or what, but they seems to always prefer the recent players.

[@anthonylove3065]

Bird has a higher defensive rating than Bron.

[@robinilouga]

Lebron has more defensive win shares more defensive first team all defense selections more steals blocks in a span of 13 years.

[@jdbb3gotskills]

Anyone that chooses bird over LeBron is crazy. And I’m not even a big fan of LeBron.

[@dbsti3006]

LeBron is all the current generation have a reference to. That's the only reason people say he's so great. Statistic wise, I can prove right now that Bird was better than Lebron. Young heads live in today and don't bother to research history in sports.

[@judygru3some]

you don’t even believe what you saying rn

[@karkarrot5786]

prove it

[@dbsti3006]

@@judygru3some Why wouldn't I?

[@dbsti3006]

@@karkarrot5786 Bird played 13 seasons. LeBron for 19 seasons. Here's both players in their 13th season: Average Bird. James 40.6. MPG. 36.1 28.1. PPG. 25.3 9.2. RPG. 6.0 7.6. APG. 6.4 52.5. FG%. 48.8 Again, this was year 13 for both players. LeBron has higher ones in a couple more categories because he's been in the league 6 seasons longer. I don't hate LeBron, it's just some people think LeBron is the only good small forward that ever existed as if nobody else did before.

[@karkarrot5786]

@@dbsti3006 comparing numbers by themselves is incredibly ignorant

[@showtimej2582]

Btm loves the old era lol he’s bias there’s no way bird better than bron

[@hardwoodgems]

There's actually several.

[@rgreen1107]

Yes he is ……

[@officialTaeJ]

@@hardwoodgemsno he isnt 💀

[@officialTaeJ]

@@rgreen1107be fr💀

[@rgreen1107]

@@officialTaeJ I have LeBum # 16 ! Not too bad for the most overrated player in history ! LeTrine be carrying Birds luggage if he played in the 80’s NBA !

[@rolandmcdonald9302]

10:40 the funniest fucking part by far 😂😂😂😂

[@Themanwiththeplan69]

They would bring back segregation for what lebron wud to to larry 1 on 1

[@mikebandieri539]

I feel like you guys are extremely biased towards Lebron in this video and act like Larry Bird is trash

[@nicolas-yv6ot]

It’s because the video is biased towards Larry and nerfs LeBron

[@TMK561]

Some people just don’t need to be talking about basketball. Some people don’t deserve a platform to talk basketball.

[@christ-Revealed]

Love these your reaction videos bro......please we need more swagu!!!!!!!

[@richardmajor25]

There were so many fallacies, double standards, and omissions of necessary context that that guy had the whole video. Discounting a player for certain things and then praising the other player for similar reasons is what shows me ignorance and I had to convince myself this guy was trolling.

[@AnxiousJoe]

Aw HELLLL Nah dawg

[@matthewmultiplayer5947]

Bird got shooting(not in paint), rebounder, creativity, mentality. Lebron has everything else. Lebron also in my opinion the best fast break player ever, imagine him in the 60’s game flow.

[@shanaandshawn]

Mentality isn’t a real thing

[@GregoryKeller]

@@shanaandshawn Ask Laker fans about Russell Westbrook’s performances and tell me that mentality isnt a real thing

[@matthewmultiplayer5947]

@@shanaandshawn so Kobe and T Mac have the same mentality?

[@zanestarrk6891]

Lol How does bird have the mentality edge?

[@matthewmultiplayer5947]

@@zanestarrk6891 the ultimate trash talker that backed it up. Best trash talker and player to play mind games with their opponents than anybody in history. He destroyed and destructured his opponents before during and after games better than anyone. Lebron is known as being kind of a baby and soft, getting fans thrown out because of them trash talking. Yeah that’s kind of a Pussy move. But I do think Lebron is the better player and obviously better athlete.

[@ironman68papers45]

Larry bird not better than lebron what he taking about

[@robinilouga]

He is a jordan old head fan of course he hates lebron and thinks larry bird is better

[@rgreen1107]

Of course Larry is better ! What are you talking about ?

[@ItsBlazeVibes]

@@rgreen1107 bird ain't top 2 simple as that, not even top 5 in most cases.

[@rgreen1107]

@@ItsBlazeVibes has no clue ….

[@shaddupfarva]

Bird retired before you guys were born. You should bring your dads in to sit next to you to rebut all your junk. You can’t judge a player from a few clips of replays. You haven’t seen Bird play live then you have no idea how good he was. The Celtics burned their pick the year before Bird left college to make sure they got him.

[@MaxThaMagicFan]

This has to be racially motivated

[@yuhgirlamy5731]

You the old one talkin bout it😂

[@MaxThaMagicFan]

@@yuhgirlamy5731 I’m 15 but sure

[@ruckman8834]

Why you say that?

[@ItsBlazeVibes]

Only possible way someone would say something like this.

[@paulsullivan1650]

Y'all think Larry Legend is so hilarious on defense huh? Then why did he average double-digits on rebounding throughout his entire career? That's right boys, Bird averaged about 10 rebounds a game. That's not playing defenseively? He averaged more rebounds per game than 7'0" center Patrick Ewing! Damn, you youngsters just don't know what you're talking about man. Larry Bird was the toughest player who ever played this game. He had bone-spurs on both feet and corrective surgery that would have had most players retiring afterwards. But Bird came back. Larry Bird had the structural bone in his spine destroyed and had to have it manipulated before each game just so he could manage the pain long enough to play for three hours each night. His orthopaedic surgeon said that Bird's spinal pain was so excruciating, it was like getting your finger jammed into a door, and somebody still pushing on the door! And the man NEVER EVER even took one painkiller or Tylenol in his career. He just played through the pain! Are you fucking serious! Let LeBron or anyone else even try playing with that kind of pain every night. Bird had to lie down on the floor of the plane when they traveled city to city. When the Dream Team went to Barcelona to play in the Olympics, Larry Bird couldn't even practice with his teammates, and still played great. Magic Johnson said Bird's the best player he's ever seen. James Worthy of the showtime Lakers said he'd much rather guard Michael Jordan than Larry Bird. Ex-Laker coah Pat Riley once said "If I needed a player to sink a shot to win a game, I'd pick Michael Jordan. If I needed a player to sink a shot to save my life, I'd take Larry Bird!" Larry Bird is not only the best small forward of all time, Larry Bird is the greatest player in the history of the League. Larry helped save the NBA in the 1980's when it wasn't even being played on TV. Most players were just a buch of coke-heads just seeing who could dunk the ball better. But when Larry Bird & Magic Johnson hit the league in the early 80's, it all changed man. They put NBA basketball back on the map! Bird's career was cut short because of injuries. And LB may have won more MVP's than Bird, but there's a reason for that. Larry Bird's three MVP's came in the mid-1980's, which was more talent-rich than in LB's time in the league. Bird had to olay against the like likes of Patrick Ewing, Sidney Moncrief, Julius Erving (Dr.J.), Ralph Sampson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Bill Laimbeer, Isiah Thomas, Scottie Pippen, Micheal Jordan, Dennis Rodman, Moses Malone, Clyde Drexler, Xavier Daniel, etc. And one more thing, Bird won three straight MVP's playing against all these guys. The only other's to win three in a row were Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain!

[@josiahsmith7059]

wow so bird was a cripple who wanted to play great case for being a top 5 player all time

[@shounakc509]

This shit lowkey making me mad like Lebron is 2nd greatest, MAYBE 3rd greatest at the bare MINIMUM. In my opinion he’s 2nd. There is NO reason Bird is greater than Bron I’m sorry.

[@luistorres8005]

There are plenty

[@shounakc509]

@@luistorres8005 Okay so Lebron has more rings, more MVPs, TWO more Finals MVPs, has played in FIVE more All-Star games, has FOUR more All-NBA first team selections, SEVEN more All-NBA selections, FIVE more All-Defensive 1st team selections (THREE more total defensive team selections), has won a scoring title AND an assists title UNLIKE Bird, and has recorded MORE points, assists, rebounds, steals, AND blocks throughout his career, but for some reason I’m supposed to believe that Bird is better? Yeah right gtfo bruh 😂

[@rgreen1107]

Not just Bird , many players better than lebron ….

[@shounakc509]

@@rgreen1107 Unless you give me some statistical evidence behind your statement, I look at you as nothing more than a clown

[@rgreen1107]

@@shounakc509 suck it ! My opinion ! But I’ll throw some facts your way ! BIRD has the 2nd Highest winning percentage in NBA HISTORY !! He is Literally half a percentage point from being the winningest player EVER ! BIRD has 3 Straight MVPS from the talent rich 80’s and took runner up 5 other times ! BIRD was the first NBA player drafted an entire season before he even entered NBA ! The BIRD rule ! He took college player of the year over MAGIC , taking a nobody team 33-0 and to the NCAA NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ! BIRD took NBA rookie of the year over 2nd place MAGIC Johnson ! BIRD took the CELTICS from the worse record to the best record in the NBA his rookie season ! By the way , he was the only new addition to the Celtics that year ! BIRD took his first of three NBA championship in only his 2nd Season ! By the way , did you know BIRD also has Three (3) 3 - point contest wins ? BIRD was the founding member of the 50-40-90 Club ! Larry is the Only member to do it twice ! Is Lebron in that club ? BIRD a BETTER Shooter , fact , best sharp shooter the NBA has ever seen ! BIRD a BETTER rebounder , Fact , he averaged over 10 a game in his career ! BIRD a BETTER passer , fact , watch his dam videos, it obvious ! Bird has MORE heart and grit , fact , Larry played hurt most of his career , Lebum needs carried off court for a broken fingernail ! BIRD saved the NBA ( along with MAGIC ) and Lebron is destroying it ! Many Legends actually say BIRD Is the GOAT ! Players like …….. Kareem , Magic , Russell and others ! BIRD has nicknames like LARRY LEGEND and BASKETBALL JESUS ! JAMES has nicknames like LEBUM , QUEEN JAMES and LEFLOP ! So, What am I missing ? I could actually go on ……..

[@KingD-Trix]

Only reason I'd take Bird over Bron is because of toughness. Bird was playing with a bad back and still giving opposing defenses buckets. Bron got a heat cramp and was subbed out. Brid is one tough bastard. And a legendary trash talker. He would get inside your head and there was nothing you could do against him. He was KG and Kobe before they were in the league.

[@peewee0224]

bro bron was literally playing 40 plus minutes with those cramps tf are you talking about. also even this year lebron was playing 40 plus minutes with that bum ankle

[@vintagemonte]

14:07 KILLED ME 🤣🤣🤣

[@greatest515]

A lot of “ifs” with lebron. Y’all jockin lebron too much on the scoring part. He’s not more efficient than Larry bird. He does not give you the same points with less of a bag. Sometimes you need FTs or a 3pt at the end. The game is close so you need an easy inside basket. All things bird had .. and he had it in the clutch. For big boy to say brin is more efficient and to take shots at the 5% bird stans is so corny. You can be objective and give an opinion without callin someone a “Stan”. More proof y’all are lebron stans

[@manuelviellieber4763]

11:55 That’s true. It’s like: he’s so bad at defense, but his heart man, HIS HEART😂

[@hepwo91222]

bad on defense? Bird? Bird was a good defender, he seemed to just put himself in positions to create turnovers and cut off passing lanes all the time. He once had a game where he had 9 steals.

[@legorovers9838]

@@hepwo91222 he was a smart defender he was never lebron

[@hepwo91222]

@@legorovers9838 Lebron WAS a good defender in his 20's, throughout Lebron's 30's he was an average to below average defender. Bird didn't play anywhere near as long but actually was a solid defender in his 20's. In basketball, good offense generally beats good defense.

[@darkomtobia]

LeBron has quit in him, Bird had zero quit.

[@showtimenick824]

How LeBron doesn't get back on defense because he doesn't get the call, oh we've seen this many times. He does quit a lot when he doesn't get his way. if you watch enough, you should notice it.

[@thundarrisaboss2725]

and bird would NEVER do that.

[@kingorza15]

No cap anyone who’s commenting bird over bron are legit skip bayless children

[@DrKlitamortus]

those random takes are so bad, it was so cringe. The guy with the accent, that went by stats may as well use Westbrook's stat line to say he's the best.

[@BlazinGrape]

love how people are just saying LeBron is better with no evidence but raw stats yet people saying Larry is better are actually giving him a case with solid evidence. That just says everything you need to know about fans today.

[@kmc19xx59]

Yall so biased bird was clearly the better player frfr

[@robinilouga]

And the guy who made the larry vs lebron video isn't? Bron clearly the better player frfr

[@Sharkmane25]

Putting an argument for defensive efficiency based on heart LMAO by that standard Matthew dellevedova Is an all time great

[@ceol3g3nd65]

Oky let's be honest here I'm a CARMELO ANTHONY 🐐 FANBOY but I even know that LBJ got the highest ever IQ in NBA history n it's so far from the 2nd closest player cp3 I can't believe ppl will just lie about facts

[@fivesevenspudshooter4589]

Bird definitely has a higher IQ than Bron. LeBron won't even take advantage of the post a lot of the time, even when he has a smaller.giy on him. Bird was a smarter team defender, better leader and was just as good of a passer.

[@blackjesuz8597]

@@fivesevenspudshooter4589 TF?!?!😂😂😂😂😂

[@ceol3g3nd65]

@@fivesevenspudshooter4589 bro the NBA do IQ test on every single player and they been keeping me hat record since the start of the 80,s and LeBron James got the highest IQ in league history n it's not even close bro them the facts like I said from the beginning I'm a CARMELO ANTHONY 🐐 FANBOY but I'm not about to argue with the facts that's on paper I love bird he was nice but no bird will get done by alot of mf players n idc what era u want to put them in we literally got kids in Jr high that is way more skilled than alot of them players from the 80,s n BEFORE just like Luka is way more skilled than Jordan rose was way more skilled than Jordan just from a solid skill level it's not close

[@richgreens5399]

@@fivesevenspudshooter4589 have you not watched LeBron because he definitely takes advantage in the post

[@tommybeats9241]

i lost brain cells

[@chrisjoseph3883]

If Larry bird came in the same time as lebron and benefited from better nutrition, training and medical advances he would’ve had a longer career and potentially a better one than he already had…. Case being with rule changes favoring the offensive players which leads to increased FT attempts as well as his 3PA increasing due to era his scoring averages would b insane…. I can honestly say he would average a cool 34-12-9on 50-40-90 splits at his peak and 28-11-8 for his career… he would win atleast 2 MVPs maybe even 4.. a few scoring titles… atleast 1 chip if he has decent to no help and 3-5 chips if he has good teammates….

[@jetsettech8804]

Too many hypotheticals in your statement

[@Vezuls]

I hate how skip bayless got people believing leBron isn’t clutch. The stats show LeBron is much better than Kd, Jordan, and Kobe in the clutch. LeBron also elevates in the playoff like no other. This man is not a basketball fan. He clearly doesn’t watch

[@deihorus7927]

Only young people who never watched Bird than Lebron is better, people who watched both are very sure Bird was way better.

[@lunarwaning]

no cap i enjoy the new vid style, im glad you enjoy it more and hopefully the channel keeps growing

[@bigkw1568]

LoL ... Listening to the Bronsexuals ... I will take a broke back Larry Legend all day everyday and twice on Sunday over LeFlop James

[@birdford33]

Amen brother. Reading the comments from this younger generation is hard. They actually believe this soft stuff now is real basketball lol.

[@bigkw1568]

LoL Bird would destroy this soft ass cupcake Defense today ... I feel sorry for these young pups

[@eliross9693]

These new videos fantastic hope y’all keep it up

[@LethalMlTCH]

Y’all just don’t wanna give Bird any credit. He’s easily the better passer, and yes he has averaged over 10 assist in the playoffs.

[@markgilbertjr413]

How

[@tahja]

Not easily better cmon. I think it can go either way. Lebron better overall tho still

[@brandonmyers6]

The clutch gene thing is so wrong. Lebron had 1 bad series and got a terrible reputation but Lebron is nothing but clutch. Just stop man.

[@colinwolf13]

"It's way close than you might think", me and Solz had the same reaction

[@rlmalonzo1184]

Durant is closer to Larry as 2nd than Larry is to Lebron as 1st.

[@hepwo91222]

@@rlmalonzo1184 disagree, Celtics were built around Bird to win and compete in championships. KD and Lebron had to ask for help to win titles.

[@xaviervega468]

@@hepwo91222 By the same token, the Celtics WERE BUILT around Bird. They picked up guys like Kevin McHale, Robert Parish, and Dennis Johnson to build around Bird. When did Lebron get anyone like that after he was drafted by Cleveland?

[@hepwo91222]

@@xaviervega468 Lebron's 1st stint he got to the Finals, 2nd stint in Cleveland they had drafted Andrew Wiggins and Kyrie Irving, traded Wiggins to get other players. Cleveland did draft well over time and made trades.

[@daironsimons1815]

Bro said his heart. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@espariogonzales5710]

larry may have been straight up killer but its like comparing a glass cannon over a certified tank, it's like comparing wilt to bill russell where if you think wilt would beat russell in a pure 1v1 you would have a point but man if you play, study and preach ball russell should be your one and only answer.

[@kim9god607]

reggie was scared because he knows he was just told to play two bullet Russian relet with a revolving shotgun

[@CJK2175]

Bird has no case against lebron he was in a way better situation while having a shorter prime his peak was around 28-30 a game for a good 3-5 year while lebron has doubled that on peak efficiency without even needing to add context plus he’s a point forward he controls the team and leads it in all factors not just scoring his numbers he’s capable of it but isn’t a prime factor

[@soramirez5473]

I'd rather bird over lebron.. infact I would pick only jordan ahead of bird.. Kareem third.

[@dododump3144]

@@soramirez5473 nah bro bird isn’t even top 5

[@soramirez5473]

@@dododump3144 you must be a black dude if you think that..

[@dododump3144]

@@soramirez5473 me being black has nothing to do with it he’s just not better than bron

[@soramirez5473]

@@dododump3144 and also not all black ppl hate on bird.. just some.. but this is what gets me.. Black ppl claim that the original man, the first man was black.. was african.. then that means the whitest dude to ever walk this earth is STILL BLACK AT HEART.

[@GDD729]

yoo keep doing these vids w TSO

[@RandyWRodrifuez]

"If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game I'd choose Michael Jordan.. If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life... I'd take Larry Bird." - Pat Riley So if you choose Lebron over Larry for shooting, sounds like you're dead...

[@darrylmcclure580]

That's a clown statement at no point would my life state for a dumbass game

[@kmc19xx59]

Facts

[@RandyWRodrifuez]

@@darrylmcclure580 Imagine calling Pat Riley a clown...... what the fuck you smoking

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

@@RandyWRodrifuez imagine choosing an NBA player for a game to save your life

[@mattj4362]

Lol because Pat Riley said so? He wrong too. 😂

[@ianquinones51]

The fact these same people go ahead and then say magic is better than larry is why this whole argument doesn’t make sense

[@jackjax7921]

4x finals MVP isnt even a debate. lmao

[@DavinMC11]

Thats actually ridiculous because in 13 years stretch Lebron Has More MVP More FMVP More Game More Minute More Finals Appearance More PPG More APG