Why Lisa's Solo Career Isn't Working

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@oskarpayne
@oskarpayne Ай бұрын
i dont think she's flopping. she just needs to train herself to western standards. train vocals and rap to sing live always cuz now it's kinda average
@ldland2721
@ldland2721 Ай бұрын
She's been scared to sing live in a few years now, I dunno if it would change in the future
@Sevinch97
@Sevinch97 Ай бұрын
​@@ldland2721 even the best artists get scared🥴
@anungketan2285
@anungketan2285 Ай бұрын
Actually she's doing great her live performance viral everywhere right now after ratarmy ascussed her for lips syncing. And don't worried we don't give a fck about paidboard writer opinion who's biase is jungcock 🤷 . When there 10+ of critic who presence their actually praising her performance 🤭.
@anungketan2285
@anungketan2285 Ай бұрын
​@@ldland2721who paid you hybe just like they did to paidboard writer 🤣? She's singing live while performing 🤷 their multiple live performance fancam viral everywhere go check it .
@Bllinkworld
@Bllinkworld Ай бұрын
​​@@Sevinch97yea your effort doesn't matter the day you messed a little you become their target even if your the best in every aspect but only once things dont go as they planned and your efforts are long forgotten and you become eye stinging this happened with idols like wendy, jimin, jisoo.
@wHiPpEdFoRJeOnJuNgKoOk
@wHiPpEdFoRJeOnJuNgKoOk Ай бұрын
Lisa is better as a great dancer/performer but she's not much of a singer. She does well being an influencer and ambassador in fashion and modelling so she will continue to succeed in those areas more than being a solo artist which is solely focused on the music
@anungketan2285
@anungketan2285 Ай бұрын
😂why clowning yourself gurl she's doing great and her live performance fancam viral everywhere right now by local who actually presence their . Who give a fck about paidboard biase writer opinion who's biase is jungcock? Not a single one critic say she did lips syncing it's trends by ratarmy after their oppa lose to lisa 🤭
@Bllinkworld
@Bllinkworld Ай бұрын
I guess her music is rap based don't you differentiate like rapper are known for dissing and flexing and she shows it
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
Nah she was great
@raginiswain4686
@raginiswain4686 Ай бұрын
I kinda agree with you.
@Itrangela
@Itrangela Ай бұрын
I agree with you on this
@brittanyjones2902
@brittanyjones2902 Ай бұрын
I like lisa a lot, but that song had no business being in the K-pop category, but that's more on they award show than her
@JohnSmith762A11B
@JohnSmith762A11B Ай бұрын
The songs are put into those categories by VMA executives. Fans have no choice if they want to vote for Lisa but to vote for her in the K-pop category. Wanna blame someone? Blame the VMAs themselves.
@brittanyjones2902
@brittanyjones2902 Ай бұрын
@JohnSmith762A11B ummm yea, i know that's what I said, lol
@sallymeatballs9440
@sallymeatballs9440 Ай бұрын
Okay? It’s not her fault
@izzme5204
@izzme5204 Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's just like what tyla said in her speech after winning. VMA like to clump artist despite not being in that category. Imo, it's low-key rac1st but I think that's just me
@taibatahir9704
@taibatahir9704 Ай бұрын
Yeah VMAs put her in the kpop category because they are insecure for putting any bts or bp member in pop maybe they know that they have the potential to beat the pop artists personally i think jk 7 and lisa rockstar should have been in pop but what can we say
@bixthesquirrel2477
@bixthesquirrel2477 Ай бұрын
I think there are some idols who work better in a group and some better solo. Lisa is one who works better in a group rather then solo
@nevermess8517
@nevermess8517 Ай бұрын
I agree to disagree. She's just started out and her numbers are better than most and even better than back in YG. Like imagine how many fans wish their artists even just in Kpop, had her numbers and charts. She always shone well when performing Money and Lalisa which her were her solos. No one complained then which means she has good potential for a soloist. Guys just want to write her off based on a few one times that may have been off.
@LP-ct9nk
@LP-ct9nk Ай бұрын
People complained about money and lalisa. Her fans just drowned out any criticism, but the same complaints they had back then (simple and wack lyrics, limited vocal prowess) are the ones they’re having now. Streaming numbers and charts for kpop artists are not impressive because there’s an established culture of farming streams within the genre so they can give the appearance of their idol doing well so people can brag about it comment sections later. The true test of a song is does the general public listen to it everywhere? Is it still charting high a month later? How often do regular non-stans talk about her songs/mention her in comparison to other people on her level? If the majority of these answers are no, congrats you’ve put out stuff the blind stans will like and no one else does which is why you have “why did she win?” “Why is she lipsyncing?” “Why are the lyrics so bad?” questions. GP has no good music to pay attention to from her, so they start focusing on everything else
@-rk4zf
@-rk4zf Ай бұрын
She doesn't work better in group tho. It's just the rest 3 are not good dancer so she looks better.but in solo work she's lacking. I'm not even going to start on singing & rapping live part. Bcuz all 4 of em svck
@septesgirl
@septesgirl Ай бұрын
Fr
@DjDj-tc7tv
@DjDj-tc7tv 29 күн бұрын
@@LP-ct9nkliterally all of her songs ,except lalisa, are famous to the general public and rank high in international charts. ALL: money, rockstar and new woman. So yall are reachinggg sooo bad i cant believe its 2024 and people are still saying black members’ fame isnt real. Fans streaming songs is just kpop culture, it happens to every kpop group, its not exclusive to blackpink, and somehow their numbers are still wayyy bigger than the rest of kpop. Yall dont understand that she just launched herself in the west she’s basically a rookie, and she’s doing very very good anyway.
@raginiswain4686
@raginiswain4686 Ай бұрын
To be honest rockstar won over seven and lalala or super shy was kinda sus. I mean her song was good. But the other kpop songs were way too good.
@purpleskiesforever
@purpleskiesforever Ай бұрын
It's all fan voting for VMA's, so Lisa fans just voted more.
@redefinedliving5974
@redefinedliving5974 Ай бұрын
Rockstar was below mid 😂
@xxbobxxx
@xxbobxxx Ай бұрын
I mean she’s the only one available to attend at the time so 🤷‍♀️
@Kpop-b1u
@Kpop-b1u Ай бұрын
Is seven the JK song? If so that song isn't Kpop either. And what's la la la?
@BELIEVER78989
@BELIEVER78989 Ай бұрын
Seven was more viral than Rockstar tho💀
@Kii_1127
@Kii_1127 Ай бұрын
i love Lisa, but none of her new songs are K-pop at all so they shouldn't have been in the K-pop category. The fact that other K-pop groups didn't win kinda bummed for me, considering Stray Kids keep dropping hits after hits and didn't win anything!
@anjalidubey2294
@anjalidubey2294 Ай бұрын
it was a fan voting so who fan votes the most they win
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
It should because she is a kpop soloist and k idle
@EnimolaElizabeth
@EnimolaElizabeth Ай бұрын
Kii, thank you for your honesty.
@jeonyach3621
@jeonyach3621 Ай бұрын
It was an attendance award only those who attended got the award
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
@jeonyach3621 no it wasn't it's a vote award. People who got most votes win
@jeramahia123
@jeramahia123 17 күн бұрын
She was hoping her solo fans would be enough to carry her outside of Asia, since in Asia it seems like looks and stage-presence is more important than good songs and actually being able to sing. I don't think she ever cared about the music itself, and I don't think she ever will because she's received too much validation from fans and has too much money to actually be motivated to change. She'll probably continue the way she always has - with a lot of crazy fans obsessing over everything she does while never escaping very valid criticism until anyone who's smart will avoid her.
@Hello-xz7iu
@Hello-xz7iu 17 күн бұрын
She was never successful solo in Korea. None of her solo song enter the top chart in Korea. So leave Korea out from this Asia frame.
@ss21380
@ss21380 10 күн бұрын
Her fans also a problem, her fans always overhyped her and always praise her but never open to criticism. That why she never improve because her fans always overhyped her,and because of that people always sees her as an overrated.
@ALIIIIIIIZXCVB890
@ALIIIIIIIZXCVB890 7 күн бұрын
She got cult following, so honestly she could release a burp song and they’ll eat it up
@denz6545
@denz6545 Ай бұрын
I don't think that her solo comebacks is a flop. I mean she is just starting to be independently building up her career.
@blaze7597
@blaze7597 Ай бұрын
I agreed plus yg can’t never let her or any blackpink members to have full creativity of their own under his company
@AdityaDhiman-of4yo
@AdityaDhiman-of4yo Ай бұрын
turu ❤
@redefinedliving5974
@redefinedliving5974 Ай бұрын
Her fanbase is huge but that doesn't mean it's not a flop
@zalarpao
@zalarpao Ай бұрын
@@redefinedliving5974 so what flop you mean? What's call when artist always had support from massive fanbase??
@Sunshine15-eh9kd
@Sunshine15-eh9kd Ай бұрын
It only flop, when other big groups can’t win against Lisa internationally in award show. They may not like her style and music, but her fans do, and they will support her regardless, just like any other groups, their fans will support them regardless,
@selinacastillo7185
@selinacastillo7185 Ай бұрын
I actually agree with you. And, why wasn't Jisoo nominated last year? She had one of the BIGGEST KPop songs last year, most viewed KPop video of 2023, TONES of streams, and no nominated for 2023! Plus, the other noms were FANFREAKINTANSTIC!
@Judyc6811
@Judyc6811 Ай бұрын
Exactly! If we’re talking about whose song blew up more internationally and domestically it’s def flower. Me and most ppl ik who rarely follow blackpink at all (all of us were rose or Lisa bias so even when we do search for them, it’s never Jisoo, no hate it’s just that we don’t bias her) we’ve seen like over 50 vids daily of flower and the challenge. However, I’ve barely seen any for rockstar and even my friends who rlly follow Lisa barely gets her song reccomended
@nevermess8517
@nevermess8517 Ай бұрын
@@Judyc6811 Because Rockstar is not on BP channel with many subscribers. Bp channel has a lot more reach. LLOUD is new and barely had 1M subscribers when Rockstar was being teased and released, so most people had to look search it up. Rockstar shorts & tiktoks are many but you can't compare it to a first time debut on BP. As for Jisoo's nomination, that's a question to YG. Labels are the ones that submit their artists' songs for nominations, like RCA did for Rockstar.
@LitaLagi
@LitaLagi Ай бұрын
Jisoo is talentless compare to Lisa. Jennie is better than talentless visual member Jisoo.
@CozyImagines
@CozyImagines Ай бұрын
Because Jisoo isn’t desperate for western attention. They reach out to those award shows for consideration.
@LitaLagi
@LitaLagi Ай бұрын
@@CozyImagines cause Jisoo is more talentless than Lisa. She cant speak English fluently and cant dance and cant sing. Singer Rose is more better than singer Jisoo.
@castorpepper2697
@castorpepper2697 Ай бұрын
Since when is Tyla considered a “Pop Icon”? 😂 OMFG she literally has ONE HIT song, and then people wonder why artists have such short shelf lives. People in the new generations, are quick to praise and quick to toss artists. No actual ICON has been produced by the music industry in a very, very long while.
@kimendable
@kimendable Ай бұрын
y’all will come in here to say Tyla isn’t a star with a top 10 hit then in the same breath say Lisa isn’t flopping while not even cracking top 50
@castorpepper2697
@castorpepper2697 Ай бұрын
@@kimendable let’s get a few things right, 1) my comment makes no mention of Lisa whatsoever, so I don’t know how you can say I’m putting down one while upholding the other. I’m no blink so I literally don’t care. 2) I never said Tyla wasn’t a star, stars are a dime a dozen, I said she wasn’t an “ICON” a word that denotes different things, including longevity, earned respect and a cultural grip over an industry for decade(s). Tyla’s been around a literal minute and has one song in the mainstream of consciousness, calling her an “ICON” is wrong no matter how you twist it. So maybe let’s set the goal of learning what real “ICONS” are and also to try to put more effort into reading comprehension.
@vim2339
@vim2339 Ай бұрын
You come here just to come that about Tyla mean Tyla is a pop girly
@bdh711
@bdh711 Ай бұрын
Tyla has more than one hit, she performed all over the world from Japan to Brazil just last month, meanwhile you’re in bed calling her a one hit wonder
@castorpepper2697
@castorpepper2697 Ай бұрын
@@bdh711 SHE’S STILL NOT AN ICON, tons of forgotten artists and one-hit wonders (something I didn’t call her btw, since her career is not over) enjoyed popularity in their own little heyday and toured from coast to coast before largely being forgotten by mainstream audiences. My comment is on how the new generations can’t recognize REAL ICONS, something your comment readily proves. Besides highlighting your clear lack of reading comprehension and palpable fragility just cause I said someone who’s been in the scene a literal minute and only has 1 hit song so far shouldn’t be referred to as an ICON 😆 little warrior, you should get away from your tiny screen, and start practicing some reading comprehension by reading up on Music and Entertainment History and finding out about REAL ICONS, people that are still remembered to this day, cause a legacy that stays relevant over time is absolutely key to being called AN ICON.
@Ameera_sayed_soha
@Ameera_sayed_soha Ай бұрын
Umm she didn't deserve best kpop award
@exogen9428
@exogen9428 Ай бұрын
Ok army, sad your fav couldn't win? Consider voting more next time
@mominbilal7688
@mominbilal7688 Ай бұрын
​@@exogen9428girl do you have obsession with us Army's How do you know she's a Army or not
@bennu547
@bennu547 Ай бұрын
Ah yes. Someone doesn’t like a member of BP so they MUST be an Army. Her singing isn’t that great. She can’t sing live or sound decent without auto tune. Pick your reason why someone might not like her as an artist
@lalllisam_8247
@lalllisam_8247 Ай бұрын
You're just jealous honey😂
@Idgafuwu
@Idgafuwu 14 күн бұрын
​​@@bennu547check her other comments...she said "mama is boring without bts".she's clearly an bts army ?.?
@kawaiimetalrebellion
@kawaiimetalrebellion 15 күн бұрын
She's a good entertainer esp a dancer...but not a singer. She's not up to western standards. She does get the gigs due to her starpower but it isn't far-off that LVMH brands and non-LVMH brands, shows, etc are entertaining her/opening windows for her because of the Arnault name connected to her. She cannot remove that privilege no matter what her fans say. The Arnault company somehow profited from her stardom as well but until when? Now, that Rose shot to the top with a bop song that she wrote and did a real collab with the composition, showing her vocal capabilities...the tables might've turned to see who is the true artist with the potential for longevity. Britney may have lip sync before but she is also a vocal powerhouse aside from being a real good singer.
@fchick
@fchick 2 күн бұрын
Rosé has always been talented but because of blackpink rich image her songs didn't catch public attention because she released genuine sad songs. But u can clearly see that rosé hasvreal interest in music and can carry herself as popstar.. She can explain, write lyrics, produce it. She can simg live too. Her skills in communication in an artistic way is also beautiful.. And she caught bruno attention for collab and now successful. With her album people will realise that rosé actually deserves lisa popularity because rosé has her own colour and distinctive style in singing songs with her Australian accent
@carinaluna1350
@carinaluna1350 Ай бұрын
Once again it's proven how unserious the VMAs are as awards. From the moment Lisa wins without even counting the minimum condition of being within the eligibility period, it says it all. And I don't know if her career is a flop but it's definitely not K-Pop.
@caneleung554
@caneleung554 Ай бұрын
VMA just used her for clout
@marieLuvs-y9n
@marieLuvs-y9n Ай бұрын
It was within the eligibility period though
@carinaluna1350
@carinaluna1350 Ай бұрын
@@marieLuvs-y9n Suppose it was... honestly thinking that it was a bigger global hit than Seven? The VMAs are known for giving the award not to the deserving or the voting but to the one who is present at the show. The winners are chosen by the sponsors. You can see a detailed report on this topic on the Boracity channel.
@fahmii1154
@fahmii1154 Ай бұрын
For the first time I disagree with you,LISA solo career was never a flop full stop.
@Lilchoerry
@Lilchoerry Ай бұрын
Yeah!!🎉 Lisa is amazing and I feel like she’s doing pretty good so far 🩷
@mattgab19
@mattgab19 Ай бұрын
It’s just light rage-bait. She isn’t going to pick on NewJeans right now and Lisa videos will always get a lot of views.
@Chocotaechips
@Chocotaechips Ай бұрын
Exactly
@mono9385
@mono9385 Ай бұрын
@@mattgab19 i think so too. kookielit seems to be ragebaiting for some time now and if its actually true, pathetic tbh.
@GF-mj6iq
@GF-mj6iq Ай бұрын
Umm...Lisa is huge but I feel like she is having a hard time being taken seriously as musician outside of people who were already Lisa fans. The other other people that seemed somewhat tuned are Black Pink fans and K-Pop fans. I feel like if people aren't interested in those three they just write Lisa off
@brandoncole5533
@brandoncole5533 Ай бұрын
Ive alwaya noticed how kpop fans will fina a way to blame EVERYONE ELSE but the artist 😭😭 The delusion is insane
@NNN-jx7fx
@NNN-jx7fx 21 күн бұрын
Lisa fans. Lisa did not own k pop
@brandoncole5533
@brandoncole5533 20 күн бұрын
@@NNN-jx7fx this isn't exclusive to Lisa in the SLIGHTEST
@niki7149
@niki7149 Ай бұрын
The vmas were a mess... and also it's wrong that she was nominated for rockstar in 2024 cause it wasnt eligible and defo NOT KPOP...she could have been in any category in 2025!
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
She is a kpop soloist so it makes perfect sense
@niki7149
@niki7149 Ай бұрын
@@harryvlogs7833 no... She is a soloist who made an entire album in English not in Korean
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
@niki7149 no she didn't it's not an album there both single and rockstar contains some Japanese. Anyway she is a kpop soloist as she come from a kpop music group and is solo hence kpop soloist
@EnimolaElizabeth
@EnimolaElizabeth Ай бұрын
Exactly! I was shocked she got nominated in such a short period of time after her releases. It Made no sense.
@niki7149
@niki7149 Ай бұрын
@@harryvlogs7833 you are extremely confused. She is a Thai singer part of a kpop group who released an international album in English with not even a word in Korean as part of her SOLO career who caters to an international audience and under a label that isn't Korean!!!
@changbins_cat9022
@changbins_cat9022 Ай бұрын
Thank god someone is saying it.. Idk why people just overhyping her
@zarachelsi5992
@zarachelsi5992 Ай бұрын
SHe is my idol but I agree with you
@anungketan2285
@anungketan2285 Ай бұрын
Who paid you hybe just like they did to paidboard writer 🤭? Just accept it your jungcock oppa lose to lisa and move on 🤷. She already breaking records left and right now why clown living in their own clowning world 🤣.
@XXXTENTAClON227
@XXXTENTAClON227 Ай бұрын
I wouldn’t consider myself a K-Pop fan and the “new woman” song is incredible, and the views seem to think similar. You’re either unnecessarily jealous or have standards for music that aren’t actually possible to reach In fact, can you refer me to solo k-pop songs that are better than “New Woman”? I’ll give you my honest thoughts on them since K-Pop isn’t my genre (my name is an obvious giveaway)
@changbins_cat9022
@changbins_cat9022 Ай бұрын
@@XXXTENTAClON227 Pineapple Slice, Liliac, Celebrity, Candy, Bambi, Solo, Mmmh, Dwaechita ,Pop and many more are much better than New Woman if you talked about other songs of Lisa I would have agreed but new woman is nothing special plus it's not even that good people making it
@elimorfin7897
@elimorfin7897 Ай бұрын
realistically Lisa is not overhyped, Lisa is overhated
@FarhanaLipi
@FarhanaLipi Ай бұрын
I don't understand what people think. They think she will break all the records in the western industry just with her 2 songs. She has just started and everything needs some time and for God sake give her a break. Even some western artists are still struggling to gain attention from the audience. I am sure she will win everyone's heart in time but honestly I loved her performance. Haters going to bark every time in everything whatever she does. It's their choice to bark and let them be. We'll support her and other BP members in every step.
@Rxx36
@Rxx36 Ай бұрын
So true, some people shound learn from you!!!🔥😍
@adjadenisedoumbia9305
@adjadenisedoumbia9305 Ай бұрын
Fr, they're doing too much. Her solo career has literally just begun
@saynarai
@saynarai Ай бұрын
Exactly, it looks like they're just waiting for her downfall because why the hell are they expecting her to do better than she's doing now when she has just started her solo career?
@FarhanaLipi
@FarhanaLipi Ай бұрын
You know when people just want your downfall? When you are doing right or you are on the right path. Haters are just jealous and scared. Thank you for agreeing with me and supporting our girl. We'll always be with her in her every step.
@Rxx36
@Rxx36 Ай бұрын
@@FarhanaLipi ☺️
@lilsweetsxox
@lilsweetsxox 12 күн бұрын
To be honest, she’s flopping… I didn’t like “Rockstar,” and most people didn’t like it either. It just gets boring if you keep overdoing it by constantly talking about yourself or hearing her name all the time. Some parts of her songs didn’t make sense. “Woman” was actually good and had a meaningful message behind it, but the truth is, everyone knows what she actually sounds like when she’s singing. She’s not a vocalist, and she lip-syncs so much that it’s hard for others to believe this is the same Lalisa from Blackpink. She hasn’t done a single live performance where you can hear her real voice because they still present her like an idol in Korea, where everything has to look and sound perfect. If she’s going for a more Western style, then she should go for it fully because no one would mind that here. I really wish she would just focus on what she’s best at, like rapping and dancing. That’s her true talent. But then we get something like “Moonlit Floor,” and you can tell her voice doesn’t even match well. She even had an interview where she could have proven herself vocally but didn’t quite manage to. The best example of taking time, putting love into a song, and truly working on it is Rosé from Blackpink. And if anyone says, “Yeah, but she did a collab with Bruno, so of course it’s getting so much attention,” the answer is no! Even without him, it would still have been good work. I’ve been a Blink for years, but I still have my criticisms. I don’t want to be like every other Blink-or whatever people are calling themselves these days just because all four members are focusing on solo careers-acting as if everything they do is perfect and overhyping it all…..
@Bellafrankie
@Bellafrankie Ай бұрын
At this point, she's an industry plant. Cause how is this girl flopping in Europe and yet nominated for EMAs?
@EnimolaElizabeth
@EnimolaElizabeth Ай бұрын
In all sincerely I don't follow the Vmas, but I was surprised that she won the award. I couldn't fathom how that song got nominated within its short release.
@AnhMai-q5p
@AnhMai-q5p 28 күн бұрын
They're manipulate it maybe! The power of green eye French boy
@violetvictoria7248
@violetvictoria7248 18 күн бұрын
Girlllll
@Hdhdjdhhdjdjs.2
@Hdhdjdhhdjdjs.2 17 күн бұрын
I think her rich bf has smtg to do w it
@eeseosoo
@eeseosoo Ай бұрын
Seven by Jungkook is kpop, he comes from a Korean label, promoted in Korea, and called it kpop himself, with him being Korean as well, when Lisa doesn’t, she is Thai, as well as she is not from a Korean label, and didn’t promote in Korea, she just uses the kpop industry and name only because she is afraid to loose her Korean audience and popularity
@swapnadeepchakraborty5401
@swapnadeepchakraborty5401 Ай бұрын
Jungkook fans were busy hating on Lisa lmao, blinks and lilies were continuously voting Lisa without giving a fvck to them. So obviously their obsessed fans mistake, Lisa has nothing to do. She's not going to stop after hearing haters stup1d opinion about herself
@roshnnii
@roshnnii Ай бұрын
True
@Abyss777
@Abyss777 Ай бұрын
girl.. i think shes trying to loose her kpop audience why would she be afriad to loose korean audience and not even promote in korea? doesnt make sense her song should hv never been nominated for kpop but she isnt "afraid to loose k audience" becz its known between us blinks that shes going for non kpop now!
@cost7518
@cost7518 Ай бұрын
Ofcourse why some one want loose a title that they are known for, btw lisa is not the one who nominated herself for k-pop category in vma so stop blaming her the vma confirm that any artist that are realated to kpop would nominate for k-pop
@eeseosoo
@eeseosoo Ай бұрын
@@Abyss777 do you get what we are talking about in the first place ? She is not willing to loose her Korean audience, but she is willing to loose her Korean identity, she doesn’t want to be labelled kpop, but she doesn’t mind having kpop fans as a part of her community
@nanungyp9367
@nanungyp9367 15 күн бұрын
She cant sing without autotune,.😂,... And she is queen of lipsync😂
@axeno1448
@axeno1448 Ай бұрын
I don't think her solo career was flop.
@DianaOsazenaye
@DianaOsazenaye Ай бұрын
does just need time
@Daniellabj
@Daniellabj Ай бұрын
Its flop if base on production and promotion budget. Note: i like her tho. but we know kpop is not lucrative anymore since Jpop is thriving fast
@lyashamall1000
@lyashamall1000 Ай бұрын
Yeah
@kimendable
@kimendable Ай бұрын
rockstar charted at 70 and new woman charted at 97
@himaririku9254
@himaririku9254 Ай бұрын
STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP STRAY KIDS IS THE KING OF KPOP,,
@Mirnakrish
@Mirnakrish Ай бұрын
She is overrated anyways. The attention she gets she don’t even worth it.
@KingKikikoi
@KingKikikoi Ай бұрын
She shines a lot in black pink and honestly her solo MV’s/ work are great but her solo stage presence is absolutely lacking.
@Fairy_4_Me
@Fairy_4_Me Ай бұрын
You don't know anything about sp if you say that
@Stargirl0-t1o
@Stargirl0-t1o Ай бұрын
It’s always everyone’s fault but never Lisa’s…Celebrities are people and they make mistakes. It doesn’t mean that Lisa is as perfect as you say she is.
@Violetscarson
@Violetscarson Ай бұрын
The fans are so blind and deaf💀
@Stargirl0-t1o
@Stargirl0-t1o Ай бұрын
@@Violetscarson exactly
@mayeshaaa_
@mayeshaaa_ Ай бұрын
and whats the fault maybe ik ?
@Shophie...
@Shophie... Ай бұрын
@@Stargirl0-t1o and what exactly is the fault....being successful..?....in that case most of her haters totally aren't at fault
@Shophie...
@Shophie... Ай бұрын
@@Stargirl0-t1o as haters totally weren't successful in bringing her down....
@Fearless.cat1209
@Fearless.cat1209 24 күн бұрын
All of her streams come from Thailand, very low from the US
@reigisama
@reigisama Ай бұрын
Even I didn't like any of her songs after she became a solo but I don't think her career is floping tho....she always got a massive support and all the hype.
@cherryblink19826
@cherryblink19826 Ай бұрын
I AGREE, although I love pinks but they are not strong solo artists 😢 they lack alot individually and it's better for them to stick as group !! It breaks my heart how Lisa got bashed for her performance
@zai_arts
@zai_arts Ай бұрын
Lisa is stable but needs to improve a bit more in her vocals in order to be an Allrounder. Rosè is basically an ace, she can sing, dance, rap, has great Sp, has written songs and least important, visuals in KBS. All Rosè needs to do is improve just a tiny bit more on Rap in-order to be an ace. Jennie is already an ace, we know that. Jisoo does lack in dance but I mean, I guess she tries right? It would be better for a Kpop idol to try instead of forget or leave it. Jisoo is also very stable and is a great vocalist. Jisoo can rap but YG never let her show her talent of rapping. She is a songwriter tho which is really good. Overall, if Chaelisa focuses on Rap and vocals, they will be Allrounders. Jennie is already an Allrounder but if she improves on her dance she will 100% be an allrounder. Jisoo needs to improve in dance and rap, someone’s gotta let her rap show. So if they focus on their worst abilities, they could improve and become allrounder but then again, they are much better as BLΛƆKPIИK 💗🖤 💕
@emily-marie1
@emily-marie1 Ай бұрын
@@zai_artsbeing a good soloist doesn’t mean being an all rounder. Why would Rosé need to rap if she’s a singer? Doesn’t make sense.
@Sexy-Berry...
@Sexy-Berry... Ай бұрын
Continue talking trash here Her 3rd single is on the way
@Judyc6811
@Judyc6811 Ай бұрын
@@emily-marie1because soloists need to be able to do all things to be rlly successful. If you take a look, most soloists, although have a lean towards vocal or rap, often incorporate both to be successful. Please do more research.
@Violetscarson
@Violetscarson Ай бұрын
Honestly Jennie is the only soloist that I find fascinating.
@StrawberryshortcakeLumina
@StrawberryshortcakeLumina Ай бұрын
those fans are crazy if they are blaming the vma's for lisa's bland performance, this is my opinion as someone who has liked some of her songs
@mono9385
@mono9385 Ай бұрын
lets be real she isnt anywhere near flop. what happened was just a bad live performance but to say her career's flopping is nothing more than just an overexaggeration or even just a hate-speech.
@ro-zeea.8734
@ro-zeea.8734 Ай бұрын
Her performance wasn't that bad. Billboard has this tendency to build entertainers up just to tear them down. It's been reported that the author of the articles were HUGE (boy group fans I refuse to name them, but you know who I am talking about) therefore they already biased. They also criticized BP as a group as well. So I would take such negative criticism with a grain of salt.
@OriginalGrasshopper
@OriginalGrasshopper Ай бұрын
Her performance was actually quite GOOD. Lisa actually SANG and didn’t lip synch like the others all did.
@sallymeatballs9440
@sallymeatballs9440 Ай бұрын
Exactly Lisa will never flop like she’s LISA
@urhypeboy
@urhypeboy Ай бұрын
Cope
@mayeshaaa_
@mayeshaaa_ Ай бұрын
her performance wasnt even bad its just that vma uploaded video was edited
@Abdul_Rahmann99
@Abdul_Rahmann99 Ай бұрын
Her dancing is mid , her music is mid , literally I just don’t get the hype
@SabinaAshrafiy
@SabinaAshrafiy Ай бұрын
Lisa's fans Think: Being pretty and Doing aegyo or Lip syncing while dancing Will save her in the VMA'S But little girls doesn't even know the difference between Singing and Acting like Singing😂So Having Good body and Dancing good Can't help to go SOLO because it's western industry which Appreciates artists for being artists and Giving some Good Stuff on Stage Both(Singing +Dancing+Interacting and etc)not being Fake ,manufactured Girl or Model to take some attention of young girls for fame😊
@BILLIEEYELISH
@BILLIEEYELISH 19 күн бұрын
Everything about her career screams fraud. She got lazy too
@zaebunnie
@zaebunnie 13 күн бұрын
I honestly honestly don’t like Lisa anymore. I became a blink in 2018, and I used to love Lisa, she was actually my bias in the group. But now? I’m sorry guys, you can get mad at me all you like, but I just can’t stand her now. She doesn’t really seem to want to be a K-pop idol anymore. She clearly wants to appeal more to Western audiences, and focuses more on fashion and vulgarity. I won’t say that she’s the worst singer, because she’s not. Lisa has vocal skills, but not nearly enough. It’s pretty obvious she puts more focus into how she looks and dancing then into singing. I already looked at her funny when she did the crazy horse performance, but I didn’t hate her for it. But nowadays, it’s just becoming harder and harder for me to like her a hold of any interest in her. She just doesn’t feel like a K-pop idol anymore, and she also doesn’t really seem to be that interested in her group overall. My bias is now Rosé, and Jennie is my bus wrecker. Out of all the four members, she and Jenny have actually given us good music (and can actually sing well LIVE). In my opinion, Lisa should really just stick to being a dancer only. She’s excellent at dancing, amazing. One of the best dancers in my opinion.
@never_mine3
@never_mine3 Ай бұрын
Jtbh I think Lisa needs just a little more performances like this and comments to better adjust herself to the new changes but I don't think it was a bad performance tho😅
@ImnotItzyLia
@ImnotItzyLia Ай бұрын
The only thing i agree here is that Rockstar didn't deserve the VMAs, Lisa deserved it but not the song but it was by voting and Lisa definetly didn't flop bro☠️ nobody cares we just luv Lili and one more thing is that she is more of a Kpop idol perfomer than full dancer or full rapper, like if u see western artists their only good at 1 thing or maximum two, u can't expect Ariana Grande to give u a full perfomance on a BTS song, so yea she just has to improve some of her overall skills a lil and that's it.
@SimonkaShow
@SimonkaShow 29 күн бұрын
I also think her dating the son of the richest man In Europe must have opened doors
@ALIIIIIIIZXCVB890
@ALIIIIIIIZXCVB890 7 күн бұрын
Obviously. That’s why I don’t even bother watching her western gigs bc I know it just handed by her boyfriend’s connections
@sophieparker8713
@sophieparker8713 19 күн бұрын
Jungkook's Seven is way better and Lisa is not much of a singer.
@Sunati352
@Sunati352 25 күн бұрын
She’s not good at singing that’s why her song sounds a bit bland
@Wony143skz
@Wony143skz Ай бұрын
Not people thinking this is kookielits' opinion💀she/he literally just tells the news and what people are saying
@microwavejungkook
@microwavejungkook Ай бұрын
I find it funny how Lilies have the audacity to say 'Lisa ended Jung Kook' when all she did was lip-sync. Had it been any other BTS member, they would've rocked the night and I'm certain that they wouldn't have ended up on 16th out of all the performances. Lmao, get better Lalisa. If not singing live, at least take lessons to lip sync properly. 😂
@NNN-jx7fx
@NNN-jx7fx 22 күн бұрын
Blink (x). Lilies (o). Lisa herself did not thank to blinks but lilies for her solo career. I don’t like the so called pop star is still rubbing a K-pop award at vma.
@microwavejungkook
@microwavejungkook 21 күн бұрын
@@NNN-jx7fx My bad. I completely agree with you. Lemme fix that.
@NNN-jx7fx
@NNN-jx7fx 21 күн бұрын
@@microwavejungkook thank u for accepting my suggestion. have a good weekend.
@microwavejungkook
@microwavejungkook 21 күн бұрын
@@NNN-jx7fx Same to you, mate!
@fernandaserna-n4o
@fernandaserna-n4o Ай бұрын
I think she shined more cause of yg
@ohlalalove5329
@ohlalalove5329 Ай бұрын
She just started her career in the West . Do yall expect her to be so popular in just 1 song or 2? Lmao . She's just starting and building her name. She will breakthrough. She's LISA .
@Anne_Anna21
@Anne_Anna21 Ай бұрын
You’re one of the delusional fans. She doesn’t deserve all those awards, she can’t even lipsync properly, her song lyrics are tacky and make no sense… some people aren’t meant to be soloists. She should stick to maybe just influencing? maybe dance covers?
@ss21380
@ss21380 10 күн бұрын
Actually she is already has a golden ticket in the west market,blackpink name and fanbase is already huge in the west market, and she is also the most popular member in blackpink. In term of popularity i don't think she is lacking. People already know her name because she is already popular, so she didn't struggle to build her name in the west market. It just her song didn't meet people expectation,and and her skill is average. So the only she need is a great song and improving her skill.
@ohlalalove5329
@ohlalalove5329 3 күн бұрын
@ss21380 the West is huge. Even their huge artists gets criticized daily what more for Lisa who is basically a newbie and from Kpop (we all know how most of them view Kpop) . She's starting off right and strong. She released solo songs as a start and that means she's determined to introduce herself,her name and brand . The thing about Lisa is she just keeps on improving . I agree there's room for improvements but she's doing great right now as a starter and she deserves her praise for that.
@anaelisa8805
@anaelisa8805 Ай бұрын
The way I had to watch Lisa's performance again just to be sure I wasn't crazy lol. I have no idea how many times I've seen people that are not lipsyncing the whole song stop singing during some parts like they aren't trying to pretend they're singing when they're not. Also, you can hear her breathing when she's singing. I'm not talking about "tired breathing because I'm walking and dancing", just the normal breathing you have when you're singing very close to a microphone. That's just funny. Maybe I'm just too used to paying attention to this type of stuff lol.
@mads7710
@mads7710 Ай бұрын
those were prerecorded breaths lol
@anaelisa8805
@anaelisa8805 Ай бұрын
@mads7710 Oh, so that's why they only show up when she's moving her mouth even tho the backtrack is there? Oh, she's really putting a lot of effort into pretending lol. Please, please, please, be more reasonable and learn how to notice the differences. It's too hard for me to write in English
@mads7710
@mads7710 Ай бұрын
@@anaelisa8805 don’t be stupid…even western artists prerecord breaths and notes that are slightly off key in order to make it seem believable. arianna’s famous god is a woman performance is a PERFECT example of it. i’m sorry that your fav isn’t as good/confident as you may want to believe
@PoloYe
@PoloYe Ай бұрын
@@mads7710 So when her voice chokes up when hit those hard step choreo and skip for a breath are plan to sync on prerecorded ??? Loooolll
@mads7710
@mads7710 Ай бұрын
@@PoloYe yea….welcome to show business babe
@nykyralee9141
@nykyralee9141 Ай бұрын
Her solo career is definitely not flopping i mean she just stared as a soloist for Western people and she doing pretty good i just think that she may be use to the korean standers when it come to soloist in korea since thats basically been her whole life 🤷🏽‍♀️
@vim2339
@vim2339 Ай бұрын
Let’s be fr she is flopping non of her songs make it on the billboard
@nykyralee9141
@nykyralee9141 Ай бұрын
@@vim2339 she's really not tho 💀
@username-w5u
@username-w5u Ай бұрын
@@vim2339literally all of her songs charted on billboard (not the only chart that exists) meanwhile ur flop favs can’t even get bubbling under. imagine calling lisa “flop” when she outsells ur nugus
@username-w5u
@username-w5u Ай бұрын
@@vim2339no you need to be fr if you’re calling lisa a “flop” when she’s outselling the entire kpop industry. not to mention that all her songs charted on billboard
@KPOPGIRL2
@KPOPGIRL2 4 күн бұрын
No hate but I think she paid for that Win
@kaylachung12
@kaylachung12 Ай бұрын
I’m actually very confused. Her career is thriving??? Her recent solo music isn’t kpop at all and yes, she isn’t Korean. So that’s correct. And she didn’t fully lip sync. She sang when it made sense and didn’t sing so she could catch her breath and still perform because she was dancing a lot. And that camerawork was despicable. Despite all this, she isn’t flopping.
@ednanonono
@ednanonono Ай бұрын
Dancing a lot? She just walked and walked and posed and posed. I was really looking forward to her performance and was so so disappointed. The whole performance was so lackluster, maybe it was the camera work that didn't catch her best moments, but still. That wasn't the Lisa I've seen perform in other shows :(
@kaylachung12
@kaylachung12 Ай бұрын
@@ednanonono agree to disagree.
@jtomyhope575
@jtomyhope575 Ай бұрын
She was lipsynching the *entire* time. Then she didn't even dance well. She just stood on stage giving us NOTHING. She's not impressing anyone.
@taetaeroars3414
@taetaeroars3414 Ай бұрын
Txt's Deja Vu was a blast 😵‍💫 I mean that song is actually award worthy. It was simply the best one.
@Hyunes-abs
@Hyunes-abs Ай бұрын
Ikr rockstar or seven isn’t even kpop
@taetaeroars3414
@taetaeroars3414 Ай бұрын
​@@Hyunes-abs exactly n it being a kpop category, we all know the impact Deja Vu had 😢
@Hyunes-abs
@Hyunes-abs Ай бұрын
@@taetaeroars3414rockstar is completely English with not even a single Korean word same goes for seven so them being given the award for best kpop is js wrong while their r other incredible artists actually singing Korean songs
@parishahamdani1751
@parishahamdani1751 Ай бұрын
Why didn't you vote then if you have time to cry bcoz it was a fan vote
@Hyunes-abs
@Hyunes-abs Ай бұрын
@@parishahamdani1751 ha ha another arguer I have got no time for u and I have no idea which event u are talking about in which we had to vote if u are talking about vmas then even if Lisa got the award for rockstar it was unfair because rockstar is ENGLISH
@justmekis
@justmekis Ай бұрын
I think she was nominated in the K-pop category because she wouldn't be able to compete with other artists in the global categories. And in the end, she would go home without an award. ⬇️
@justmekis
@justmekis Ай бұрын
She was nominated in the K-pop category because she can only compete with K-pop artists so far. Her new songs have not had much global success compared to the hits that came out this year.
@kimendable
@kimendable Ай бұрын
THANK UUUU this is what im trying to say but all the Stans are acting like she’s an international superstar topping the charts worldwide. her time will come but she hasnt taken off yet
@justmekis
@justmekis Ай бұрын
@@kimendable 100 % agree
@khomotsodolene8732
@khomotsodolene8732 28 күн бұрын
She did not do that well in America all her songs charted on billboard for 1 week only. And on us Spotify is is no where.
@mamastay164
@mamastay164 Ай бұрын
LISA & JK WOULD NEVER BEAT TAYLOR SWIFT, SABRINA CARPENTER, EMINEM, ETC.. THEN YOU WOULD BE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT!!!
@praveenaameesh8473
@praveenaameesh8473 Ай бұрын
Lairr
@bonelakiranmai4573
@bonelakiranmai4573 Ай бұрын
Seriously jk? his one song has 4 gunnies world records and his debut album broke Beyonce 10 year record what are you on girl? tailor swift might be a competition for him but Sabrina and Eminem are definitely not just admit that you hate him I have seen many hate comments you have commented on BTS
@YouknowMimisParplaveOr
@YouknowMimisParplaveOr Ай бұрын
No one cares. They don't have to beat western artistes in order to prove themselves. They are the higher standard.
@LP-ct9nk
@LP-ct9nk Ай бұрын
Jk might beat them streaming wise, but in terms of actual recognition and relevance with the general public those two have him beat on a global scale. Outside of kpop fans if you were to ask people who jk was and name a song by him the majority wouldn’t be able to. For Sabrina, Beyoncé, and Eminem they can
@bonelakiranmai4573
@bonelakiranmai4573 Ай бұрын
@@LP-ct9nk yeh because they are western artists they can go on global scale easily but coming from an asian is hard and come on most of them know BTS even if they hate them coming to Sabrina and Eminem they are not well known in Asian countries
@lesegomathabatha7236
@lesegomathabatha7236 Ай бұрын
I absolutely love how all the fan videos that have come out show that Lisa actually did ding live but in the vma video she sounds like she is lip syncing. Plus people who were there have come out to defend her and called out the bs of her lip syncing. Plus billboard delete that article where they put her last and blamed an editor. So maybe just maybe leave the girl alone
@cristychavez4329
@cristychavez4329 Ай бұрын
People are so affected. My God, Lisa will shine. 5 years training and you think she can't sing live. Hahahaha! Stupid people.
@rosebautista2819
@rosebautista2819 Ай бұрын
Since Lisa became a solo artist they should separate her from anything KOREAN POP because at the end of the day. She is really not Korean. She should be in a TPOP category. THAILAND POP. No hate here just stating the obvious. I love blackpink as a group. But actually give the chance to KPOP artists to win the award for the KPOP artists. Since Lisa signed a contract in America music industry. She is definitely not a KPOP Idol any longer. She should be in an American artists category like everyone else.
@Shophie...
@Shophie... Ай бұрын
She has just recently started her solo career....and is still getting the hang of it...u cant just go around criticizing her....but since its Lisa...everyone just has to come running to attack her....for the VMas its their fault that they put her in the K Pop category...also her winning is due to her hardwork paying off....and her devoted fans...for the performance...she was firee....or else why would the crowd be so hyped up?!....or why would even other amazing celebs there be so excited about her performance....her dancing was amazing as usual....and those who say it was effortless....remember the criticism she faced she put more effort in dancing....or 'outshined' the members....when they all had their own shine....as for live singing...the performance VMAs uploaded is heavily edited....but in fancams she is clearly singing....and not all artists sing throughout anyway....every artist stops to take a breath....while she was even dancing powerfully....people just cant digest her huge success
@taylordesouza7
@taylordesouza7 Ай бұрын
Other artists had coreography and did not have that problam. Chappell Roan was clearly singing live. ❤❤❤
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
Certainly wasn't
@taylordesouza7
@taylordesouza7 Ай бұрын
@@harryvlogs7833 Please watch her performance on youtube. It is obvious that she is singing live.
@Noodle8123
@Noodle8123 Ай бұрын
⁠@@harryvlogs7833 she was. You could hear that chappell was singing slightly different notes to the original song.
@harryvlogs7833
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
@@Noodle8123 no she wasn't
@Noodle8123
@Noodle8123 Ай бұрын
@@harryvlogs7833 ok if that’s what you wanna believe. Stay ignorant 😂
@saudamoni7299
@saudamoni7299 Ай бұрын
Everyone is acting as if their faves never had been lazy and sluggish at one performance💀💀 give that girl some space. There are more performances to come💀💀
@ninnebellifemine5858
@ninnebellifemine5858 25 күн бұрын
The other day i read a comment that said that "Being in a group with other 3 mid perfomers was the best thing that could have happened to her" and i kinda agree
@seccrettt1136
@seccrettt1136 22 күн бұрын
twink
@funtrap12
@funtrap12 Ай бұрын
Lisa is not at all flopping. 1. She debuted with most streamed and most viewed song of 2024 in female kpop category. 2. All her latest songs charted inside Spotify top 10. 3. Topped iTunes chart 4. All her songs charted inside billboard 100 and topped billboard weekly charts 5. Everyone who attended the VMAs and global citizen mentioned she was singing LIVE. They enjoyed her performance and she got the biggest cheers. She always sings live. Never lip syncs. She just closes her mouth when she’s not singing. That is when she is dancing. It’s ok for two reviewers to not like a performance. They are not the Bible, just reviews. Infact she got raving reviews from other publications and was listed in the top 3 performances. There is an agenda being pushed and sponsored hate trains spread but Lisa will always shine.
@fierriefiles
@fierriefiles Ай бұрын
In this era of "influencer" and "followers", she's thriving. After all, fans don't care about what they hear. They are more interested in what they see. No matter how unsatisfactory the performance, no matter how trashy the song was. I feel bad for this generation. Stop following idols and live your life.
@MBBM-hj2sm
@MBBM-hj2sm 14 күн бұрын
She can't sing. The end. Everybody can make excuse after excuse.
@arundevassociates3095
@arundevassociates3095 Ай бұрын
Lisa should be a K-pop because I don’t like her solo career, but I love Lisa now, also, I’m not hating her. I’m just saying I like my old Lisa, I wish she should be now also K-pop idol😢😊
@pachiayang4428
@pachiayang4428 Ай бұрын
She literally just started her international solo career. How is she flopping?? Western artists sometimes take a couple of years for them to become famous. Sabrina Carpenter and Bebe Rexha are two great examples that took them years to become as famous as they are. Lisa is actually doing really good on her solo career right now as she got to perform at the VMA awards so soon. Good or bad performance, doesn’t matter! She got the invitation! Let’s see what else she has to show in a couple of years. With this many critiques about her performance, I’m sure she’ll prove them wrong in the future.
@PoloYe
@PoloYe Ай бұрын
Facts
@kimendable
@kimendable Ай бұрын
Sabrina carpenter had a show with 3 million viewers when she first started and Bebe rhexa is barely known apart from featuring on other artist songs.. not a comparison u want Lisa to have. a better example is people who broke out their group but flopped at first like Beyoncé, her first single work it out barely charted but then she came back 1 year later and became mega star
@pachiayang4428
@pachiayang4428 Ай бұрын
@@kimendable it’s a simple comparison bro. It wasn’t that serious lol. Thanks for your comment.
@janifleming
@janifleming Ай бұрын
She's also still fresh on her own (outside of YG that is), yes she's been in the game for a while now but as a solo artist under her own label, she's fairly new. She needs time to grow and find her identity as a solo artist. I do think she needs to work on her singing if she intends to continue doing more of it than rapping. But She's not flopping, she's in her development stage and doing pretty well, I should say.
@tashasmithy5795
@tashasmithy5795 27 күн бұрын
Her music is doing good she sold 700 k in 7 days and her songs perform well on the charts and streaming. If you don’t like an artist music doesn’t mean their flopping theirs other opinion in the world besides yours
@farahainaidris3651
@farahainaidris3651 10 күн бұрын
3/4 of her streams come from the thai fans and lilies that will support her no matter how bad the songs are. How can she conquer western musics without good songs and good vocal. Lisa shines the best with her group compared to solo
@SimonkaShow
@SimonkaShow Ай бұрын
It's wild to me after all These years and having access to the best vocal coaches she would make this solo push in the west lip syncing, it's very clear there's a heavy push behind the scenes for her
@MYLAparik
@MYLAparik Ай бұрын
I don't think her career is floping. I have actually liked all her songs so far.
@diegojaviersj
@diegojaviersj Ай бұрын
That is not what this video is about. Her career isn't taking off whether you admit it or not. You liking the material has zero effects on the statement that she's not doing any good so far
@blackpinkingdom
@blackpinkingdom 28 күн бұрын
​​@@diegojaviersjwhat according to u is been successful she has large fanbase which is international she been getting so much awards her fans like her and i personally like new woman and moonlit floor very much and at this point when anybody starts becoming popular I think that idol always gonna receive hate that's what even happening with lisa solo toxic fans hating her that's won't even cause her a bit effect cause lisa never became popular cause of these haters she is popular cause of her fans who will always love her cause we know how good pure soul lisa is !!?
@lilsyyyy
@lilsyyyy Ай бұрын
Her performance and especially dancing during the VMAs is in an all-time low. We all know she’s 10x better than that. She’s losing consistency in her skillset from all the fashion and modeling tours ever since their Born Pink era which equals to less and less vocal and stamina training. Blackpink started to become less and less energetic and lousy during their concerts too and they seem to just pick a certain country as to where they give their 100%. I’ve seen their Asian tours, BIG difference vs their performances on the Western ones.
@wealthy5702
@wealthy5702 Ай бұрын
Her numbers for that last song with Rosalia were good…and I really liked how different it was
@ronaldgrove3283
@ronaldgrove3283 Ай бұрын
Lisa-Lalisa I wouldn't consider a flop. Billboard criticized her for not having Rosalia on "New Woman" ? What Lisa is always supposed to drag Rosalia along when she performs the song now live ? Lisa didn't lip synic, she clearly sang on the main vocals while other vocals & chorus was prerecorded backtracked. Which is rather standard in K-Pop, through may appear confusing for western audiences ? Well, I'm a fan of Lisa but it would be welcoming if she did pay more attention to her music and hired backing singers for the parts she doesn't sing; rather than use prerecorded backtracks ? Hiring a fellow vocalist rather than having so many dancers who don't actually contribute anything to the music ?
@kawaiimetalrebellion
@kawaiimetalrebellion 15 күн бұрын
Tyla isn't an icon omfg. Mariah, Whitney, Celine, MJ, Metallica, Judas Priest, etc those are icons heck legends!
@josealessandrocastanedadel3938
@josealessandrocastanedadel3938 Ай бұрын
Ima have to disagree, she’s doing pretty amazing and the public loves her. She’s starting off pretty well and sometimes it takes time. Just bc she has some controversy’s does not mean she’s flopping. Sadly people are dramatic…..
@primj1608
@primj1608 Ай бұрын
If someone said that Lisa was a flop they must have lived under the rock. She’s the most popular kpop solo artist right now. She is busiest being booked left and right. Artists are not always strong at the vocals. Some are performers and they are super famous; ex Britney Spears, JLo. If Lisa a flop, ever other K-pop must have wished they a flop too. Yikes
@Shophie...
@Shophie... Ай бұрын
Exactly she is still adjusting. ..and fr...when she was in K Pop she bought a lot in....even a huge advantage to YG....but now when she needs support...ppl are blind....coz she is Lisa...and people can't digest her success....like she can't just shift her fan base...she needs time....just like other artists needed to get popular
@someotheralias
@someotheralias Ай бұрын
Why are you bringing up Britney Spears? She might not be the best vocalist for a pop star, but her sound is iconic. She’s an example of how vocal tone is more important in creating her star identity than vocal capabilities. Similar to Selena Gomez, her vocal tone is her signature sound. And JLo, most people hate her. She’s an example of failed industry plant. Lisa is the embodiment of kpop. She either sounds like someone from another generation or her sound is mimicked by the new generation. It’s not unique.
@Oliveandcheese
@Oliveandcheese Ай бұрын
Unfortunately Lisa doesn’t have talent that Britney has.
@diegojaviersj
@diegojaviersj Ай бұрын
Lol JLo is a failure? With over 30 million albums sold and multiple #1s lol lol lol say what you want but legacy can not be erased ​@@someotheralias
@primj1608
@primj1608 Ай бұрын
@@Oliveandcheese Lisa has a different kind of talent and charisma from Britney. I’m just punting out that Her strength is her dance and her stage performance. She has not reached that stardom level like Britney but so far she has done great building her fan bases around the world. I’m just one of many fans that is proud of her. She inspires me and many lilies. No hate just love for her. ❤️
@strxwberrylola
@strxwberrylola Ай бұрын
Lisa solo and performance at the vmas was incredible, keep rocking Lisa!!
@Willowparks44
@Willowparks44 18 күн бұрын
It’s ridiculous that artists from Korea or artists who started their career there are forever kept in the K-pop category when Clearly the music is Pop music or covers a wide variety of genres and influences. It’s not the fault of the artists. It’s the entire music industry gate-keeping which is maddening and the controlling, vengeful and punitive K-pop fans who believe they can dictate how an artist creates, how they explain their music,how they live, if they date or have friends, etc. it’s sad for the artists to have to bend to this behavior. Wishing all artists and human beings the grace to express themselves freely If they’re not hurting anyone. And to all awards shows, music platforms, etc… stop excluding Korean artists from other categories!!! Regarding Lisa’s performance, wishing her the best. No doubt she’s a talented performer, live vocals hopefully to be strong in the future to expand as a singer if she wants to go in that direction.
@taylorcala12
@taylorcala12 Ай бұрын
I could kinda understand some of the criticism of Lisa winning in the kpop category, however I just find some of the reasonings to be kinda ironic, like how some ppl who are saying that Lisa shouldn’t have won because her song doesn’t have any Korean in it, but also wanted Jungkook’s Seven to win when I’m pretty sure that song also didn’t have any Korean in it.
@taylorcala12
@taylorcala12 Ай бұрын
Also yes I know Jungkook is actually Korean and Lisa is not.. I’m only talking about the ppl commenting on the fact that Lisa shouldn’t have won because of the lyrics are not in Korean.. but Jungkook’s Seven is not either
@kang-hyori
@kang-hyori Ай бұрын
Armys and blinks love to claim their favs are kpop or not depending on how usa perceives them, a couple years ago they kept saying bts were no longer kpop and they were off the industry but their solos songs that are completely in english are kpop? Really? I really miss when few people listened to kpop and tik tok didnt exist
@timeabg
@timeabg Ай бұрын
What exactly isn’t working?? 😂 I’m not even a fan and she’s doing awesome for the short time since she’s been releasing. She is a pop act, not a singer or a deep artist, and she seems to be crushing it!
@aex2309
@aex2309 Ай бұрын
This is expected. I mean just like how 2NE1 was before. The fans prioritized Western Validation but after they disbanded, they attempted to enter the West (especifically CL) and yet she failed over and over again. I love CL but they have to stop this Western Validation because they will never look at them in a different light. Nothing but just a KPOP group or member. This is the prime example that its better to be famous in Korea instead
@LP-ct9nk
@LP-ct9nk Ай бұрын
CL actually did really well breaking into the US market at first and getting legit attention from the public and western artists who wanted to work with her. YG, then sabotaged her later solo albums and the momentum was lost
@BrownSugaBabe
@BrownSugaBabe Ай бұрын
I thought her performance was 🔥!!! She was my second favorite right after Meg and Yuki. She isn’t a flop by a long shot and I don’t see where she was lacking in her performance.
@angelsws1
@angelsws1 Ай бұрын
We can't say she is flop just because of 2 items and there are videos where she's definitely singing live.
@x_phxntom
@x_phxntom Ай бұрын
So proud of her
@zerotwothree
@zerotwothree 18 күн бұрын
She isn’t flopping in my eyes. I’m not a Lillie or a blink, but I do enjoy her music a lot.
@MainRapperACEsahi
@MainRapperACEsahi Ай бұрын
Never heard of her solo songs outside YG.
@cost7518
@cost7518 Ай бұрын
No one asked, btw your fav debut money comes from there success
@MainRapperACEsahi
@MainRapperACEsahi Ай бұрын
@@cost7518Hahahahahahaha! Girl, don't brag about BP's money being used as Treasure's debut because first of all, BP was barely active when Treasure was preparing to debut. iKON was the most active during 2017-2019 so basically, the "money" that Treasure used to debut was iKON's (Even if it was really YG's money lol). And besides, Lisa's solo music is not the YG style that I like. You can't force everyone to like it. Don't be a toxic Blink. BP would hate you for that. Especially, Rosé. 🙂
@AnhMai-q5p
@AnhMai-q5p 28 күн бұрын
Actually her lyrics are nonsense! She's even cant explain the meaning of her song🙄
@Leo.whoaaa
@Leo.whoaaa Ай бұрын
Funny how you already watched those fan-cams and still called her out for lip-syncing 😂 What an outrageous affront to her sterling reputation!
@MrRedsymba
@MrRedsymba Ай бұрын
So from what your telling me, her career is starting out great. Its just everyone is picking on the new kid. Got you.
@vim2339
@vim2339 Ай бұрын
Is not going well
@eejeej6363
@eejeej6363 Ай бұрын
7:47 US camera work is very different than South Korea camera people. South Korea camera people seem to know the artists moves & move with them. US camera people are all over the place during the performances.
@Metyourmatch
@Metyourmatch Ай бұрын
It’s like y’all are forgetting that she doesn’t have the backing of a major company and is doing literally everything herself. People are expecting yg level production from her when she doesn’t have YGs budget. She is signed to rga, but that’s for distribution and I believe management. They aren’t backing her so she won’t have access to their budget either. I agree that for a first time performance it was a bit safe, but the way y’all are so quick to tear her down before she has even had a chance to grow is really disgusting and says a lot about who y’all are as people.
@username-w5u
@username-w5u Ай бұрын
why are you acting like she’s broke and can’t afford a large budget 💀
@ancientone08
@ancientone08 Ай бұрын
What I was thinking, she was under my before where marketing, payola, etc. was there. I believe aat the moment shes just struggling with management, afterall how can a new label know how to make her stand out properly like yg did. Just my opinion
@ancientone08
@ancientone08 Ай бұрын
​@@username-w5uI dont think it's about being broke, it's about experience. Obviously a big company like yg can promote better than a new company.
@Forpink-pinku
@Forpink-pinku Ай бұрын
It’s not working!? 💀🤣🤣 it’s taking off and yall can’t stand to see it so that’s why take a seat
@elimorfin7897
@elimorfin7897 Ай бұрын
Kooklielit do you seriously say that Lisa's career is not working when she has only released two songs and made two solo two performances?
@midnights8123
@midnights8123 Ай бұрын
people are so hard to please.
@Elaine-said
@Elaine-said Ай бұрын
Her career isn’t a flop at all. Her career works perfectly not to mention she’s a huge millionaire
@Lani.c222
@Lani.c222 Ай бұрын
I remember when BLACKPINK first performed in America. It came with a lot of hate. I don't really remember where, maybe on Good Morning America, and people said they didn’t have great dancing. They claimed the dances were easy, and they said, “This is American camera work showing how little they do and how much the camera does the work.” I feel like this is now the same thing with her performance. It wasn’t bad; I just feel like it’s not something we are used to. The cameras they use in Korean performances and Western performances are very different. Do I think she lip-synced? No, I don’t. I just feel like the backing track was loud. I am not a Lisa nor a BLACKPINK fan, but I didn’t hate it :) It takes time to adapt to something new. She will grow eventually. I mean, the music even sounds different, right?
@XXXTENTAClON227
@XXXTENTAClON227 Ай бұрын
The American cameras are just much worse in comparison and quality. They have about 2 cameras for the most high profile performances meanwhile some random K-Pop stage performance has as many cameras as a Premier League game
@LP-ct9nk
@LP-ct9nk Ай бұрын
There are a lot of great performances on American shows that use a small camera setup. As a performer you should be choreographing to fill the stage and show off to the audience, not based on how many camera angles you can use to make a performance seem better than it is. True performers will always shine no matter what the set up. Rn Lisa is not there
@vasiliki1194
@vasiliki1194 Ай бұрын
uhm did i miss something cuz her songs are literally everywhere?! vmas are not the only thing determining how well she is doing lol, it was just the start so ofc people will have opinions. we will get more perfomances, music, awards etc in the future to judge if she is flopping or not, but for now i believe she is doing really great.
@Abyss777
@Abyss777 Ай бұрын
yeah this video is just rage baiting thats all
@ItzD
@ItzD Ай бұрын
She is DEFINITELY NOT flopping. She is testing different music styles and LLOUD is a new (and most likely self funded) label.. they do not have YG marketing budget (yet). She is grinding like any new independent artist.
@g545
@g545 Ай бұрын
Omg 😳 people will always hate this Gurl she can never do anything right 🤦‍♀️
@LisaB.427
@LisaB.427 21 күн бұрын
You’re wronggggg. She freaking slayed VS fashion show.
@apriljeam1348
@apriljeam1348 Ай бұрын
I think she started so good, breaking many records and it is just first steps but u can see her first steps is already go into right direction, but negative comments and toxic thoughts towards her just makes she find room for improvement. If got award 🥇 is flopped so where is the whole industry which not even achieving like her? Are they buried underground 😆
@jichhuu
@jichhuu 28 күн бұрын
they hate that rockstar is enlgish but in kpop category but seven by jungkook is also english
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