Why Little Cup's BIGGEST Problem is What Makes it SO GOOD: Pokemon Scarlet and Violet

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Lemon LC

Lemon LC

Күн бұрын

Hey guys, thanks for watching. I put a lot more effort into this video than I typically do, and depending on my schedule and the reception I might make more videos like this or maybe go back to the old format. Let me know your thoughts.
Credits
• Pokemon Background Loop - KZbin by Sasuke Editz
• Jubilife Village Vibes Song One
• oomiee - Higherberries Song Two
• Pokemon's Weirdest Cal... Freezai's Corphish Video I alluded to in the video (Love you freezai :3)
Edited by me, Inspired by Freezai's editing style. Freezai, if you see this, I love you man. ‪@FreezaiPokemon‬ ‪@freezailive3842‬
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@jissus3893
@jissus3893 11 ай бұрын
This video motivated me to make a stall team at lc
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Good Luck (If you succeed I'll hate you)
@fishyfishking7906
@fishyfishking7906 11 ай бұрын
How to anger the entire LC community.
@greyscaleadaven
@greyscaleadaven 11 ай бұрын
I mean regen cores and wish passers are generally the way to go if that's what you want, but honestly back when I used that to climb ladder it played more like balance in this tier (I also only play balance pretty much though, Hyper Offense is too risky for me personally and stall is... stall). Regen cores are definitely a thing of the past though, they might come back with foo but idk Neutralizing Gas Koffing and trappers like Shadow Tag Gothita kind of ruin most of them now.
@jissus3893
@jissus3893 11 ай бұрын
@@greyscaleadaven yeah it's more balance than stall
@LucinaMomento
@LucinaMomento 9 ай бұрын
the closest thing ive gotten to work is triple regenerator core
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 11 ай бұрын
I’ve tried LC, and I can say that it’s insanely fast paced.
@460u57
@460u57 11 ай бұрын
I once had a match that lasted 6 turns
@Crxsseyed1
@Crxsseyed1 7 ай бұрын
Lc is most definitely faster paced then most formats, partially just because of how little the hp normally is
@GrahamArnold64
@GrahamArnold64 11 ай бұрын
Nice video! Personally I've always done OU or maybe UU, but I've never considered a deep dive into LC. I'll definitely give it a shot!
@miguelGaming992
@miguelGaming992 Ай бұрын
its so fun
@ILiekFishes
@ILiekFishes 11 ай бұрын
It's not just the high base power that makes defense weaker, it's the way stats scale. Damage is proportional to attacker's attack divided by defender's defense, so if both pokemon's levels and by extention stats are doubled, the damage will remain the same but since the hp stat was doubled the attack will deal half damage as much percentage wise. This also applies to base stats, evs, and IVs, proportional increases to all stats will result in less damage (blank sets used, ditto flamethrower on ditto does 27% minimum while mew flamethrower on mew does 19% minimum). That's also why gens 1 and 2 are much more stall oriented, since all evs are maxed as opposed to attack needing 252 evs while full bulk is 504.
@Goldenboii24
@Goldenboii24 11 ай бұрын
Engaging editing and coverage style. Channel has potential, keep at it homie
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, I Will! My new editing style takes a lot more time but new videos either every week or every second week. Don't miss them!
@doorto6152
@doorto6152 11 ай бұрын
Really cool video. Love to learn about this niche format. Editing skills are good, borderline great. Just got a few quirks to iron out, like the sound mixing at 0:54, where it’s impossible to hear your voice over the scream sfx. If I had to give a grade, I’d give a B+. If you’re starting off here, your editing and writing is only going to get better. Looking forward to more. 🎉
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thank you man, that means a lot. This is the first video I've put more than a few hours into and really tried, most of my other videos range from okay-pretty bad. A B+ is more than I could ever dream of.
@trevorsreya8277
@trevorsreya8277 11 ай бұрын
A strat I've seen used against setup mons was prankster encore. For example, Shellder switches in, I switch out my mon on his shell smash, the mon I switch into has prankster encore which forces Shellder to spam shell smash for the foreseeable future. On top of that, I've seen phasing moves like dragon tail and haze teched on some mons as well. It's just that prankster encore is for those moments when a setup mon is swapped in on a mon that doesn't have a phasing move. I get that it's annoying, but it's something.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I've tried that and it's not bad, but I don't love it. Just feels sort of awkward slotting in those not great mons for that specific reason, but mons like shroodle encore can certainly be good.
@niedas3426
@niedas3426 11 ай бұрын
​@@LemonLittleCupI don't play pokemon but I am interested in card games. And one thing that I realised is that tech cards, or tech moveslots/mons are almost never worth it. Because sure, I can include a card that can help me win a specific matchup. But in reality that almost never happens. I may end up not drawing that card when I need it and I may draw it when it's not helpful in other matchups. Drawing is not an issue in pokemon but having a suboptimal mon in some matchups certainly is. I think I'd rather have a good mon that synergyses well with my team and helps me with my gameplan than a mon that is suboptimal in most situations and may only increase my winrate in unfavored matchups a little.
@DillonChichester
@DillonChichester 11 ай бұрын
Set up as an issue is common in random battles to a degree it hasn’t been in past gens too. Did you get a shell smash/swords dance Mon? Yes? Did your opponent get a counter? No? Congrats you win.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
100 percent
@MoonlightLucy
@MoonlightLucy 11 ай бұрын
i have always loved little cup and its the format i played the most, i loved the extremely fast pace games that never seemed to drag too long, no stall, wacky new strategies, but i gave up on it after ALL of my good teams getting deleted out of nowhere, but this video made me wanna go back to the format! btw intimidate coil gunk shot tailblaze ekans is op, change my mind
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Teams getting deleted is a cookies issue, you can also just copy paste them into notepad or a word document if you really want to be safe
@jimothycool
@jimothycool 11 ай бұрын
Cool vid, unique style
@WhyYouMadBoi
@WhyYouMadBoi 11 ай бұрын
Ah there you are jimmy boy
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yo I love you man, I've been subbed for a long time (not on this account on my main gmail account.) Hearing this from you means more than you could even know. I watch like all your videos lol :)
@posobio
@posobio 11 ай бұрын
This is insane.
@austinjrb
@austinjrb 11 ай бұрын
The Magby flashback 😭🤣💀 used to be addicted to Pokemon. I stopped playing but still enjoy Pokemon content here and there. Great video bro!
@yumiendercat3685
@yumiendercat3685 11 ай бұрын
A friend of mine is currently playing in an LC tournament so I’m trying to learn more about it so I can talk to him about it. Great video, thanks!
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I was in that but played against two opponents admittedly better than me so I'm out. Good fun though :)
@WeezerEnjoyer
@WeezerEnjoyer 11 ай бұрын
godlike gamer video, im filled with the urge to play this format i've never heard of before
@b1uezje
@b1uezje 10 ай бұрын
Great video and loved the editing style, the mic changing in quality and volume throughout the video was super distracting though , if I have to whine about something. Keep it up, brother, you earned a sub. :-) By mic I mean comparing 0:45 vs 5:00 for example.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, this video did really well,but there's some issues. My microphone sounds better in my newest videos so I fixed that at least.
@erwin791
@erwin791 11 ай бұрын
hi im an lc player like you (eric on smogon) and id like to give my two cents. i think setup in lc is not as crazy as you think because eviolite gives us counterplay to it almost by itself. it is true that lc mons hit way harder than ou mons, but it is also true that usually lc mons dont die in one hit. you can usually just check the opposing +2 numel/shellder/you name it with just your full health vull/foo. this depends on gamestate obviously, but its a resource youll always have if you plan your games well, coupled with priority (timburr mach punch, corphish aqua jet, foo fake out and even nymble first impression). defensive teras also help, as they are a one time resist to a move you might need to check. but, to me, the most important part is positioning. if i dont give the opposing np vull even a chance to set up, its never winning. planning your games out in a way you wont lose is super important and will give you the edge in most battles
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah positioning and planning ahead is 100% a huge factor in LC, but even just one error sometimes and you lose to a sweeper. Certainly a fast and crazy metagame and that's why I love it.
@Karzakus
@Karzakus 11 ай бұрын
I still hope and pray with all my might that once Archaludon comes out, we legalize duraludon in LC for a singular day because that shit would be so fucking funny
@victorvinegar7116
@victorvinegar7116 11 ай бұрын
That intro was gold. Earned the subbed.
@Crxsseyed1
@Crxsseyed1 7 ай бұрын
Something I enjoy a lot about little cup is just how fast paced it normally is, while a normal random match could be like 10 minutes, you could finish 2 or 3 little cup games
@YukiKoyuki
@YukiKoyuki 11 ай бұрын
oh fuck yes little cup is my favorite format too thank you youtube algorithm for feeding me the niche of a niche i needed
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I'm thanking it to, I've gone from 34-344 subs in under a day :)
@kythr4500
@kythr4500 11 ай бұрын
great video! hope to see you around more in the lc community!
@_TristanGray
@_TristanGray 11 ай бұрын
First time seeing your channel, great video! Funny and informative :)
@_WiZ420
@_WiZ420 11 ай бұрын
2:15 I got your point but that sentence could have been better placed. Who the fuck is willingly Wave Crashing a Toxapex😂😂
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah FR should have picked a different example, I just used the first mon with high defense that popped into my head
@relativelylucky1454
@relativelylucky1454 11 ай бұрын
Better than ferrothorn
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
This Video's a bit different and I spent a lot more time on it than usual. I might keep this style if I'm not too busy, but it also sort of depends on how it does. Thank you guys so much for all the support, I was at 34 subs before this video now I'm at 380. I can't believe this. Hey guys, so unfortunately, this video got copyright claimed, so youtube removed the music in the last half ish. It sounds pretty bad so I'm sorry about that. It didn't tell me it would get copyrighted until after I uploaded it.
@GamersAtFault
@GamersAtFault 11 ай бұрын
If you can, it is a very nice style! Great editing, didn't even notice you had only 36 subs until I started looking at the description lol Keep up the great work ^^
@schnitzelmike727
@schnitzelmike727 11 ай бұрын
I read this as "this video is built different" and honestly I agree
@maltl0af673
@maltl0af673 11 ай бұрын
Glad to find a LC creator, love it. Keep it up
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Well I fully intend to, so stick around! :)
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 11 ай бұрын
Accuracy is one mechanic that makes one want to write a lengthy and verbose rant about.
@ZuckFukerberg
@ZuckFukerberg 11 ай бұрын
I wish we could have a no-RNG mode without accuracy checks, fixed damage rolls and no proc chances.
@rainwaiv
@rainwaiv 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunate
@tysondennis1016
@tysondennis1016 11 ай бұрын
@@rainwaiv Doesn’t
@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
@librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 11 ай бұрын
Good video. Ive dabbled in LC before so this video was interesting
@GodzillaFreak
@GodzillaFreak 11 ай бұрын
20 turns is considered fast pace?
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I'd think it is compared to most other tiers, sorta depends how you play
@Wizard_Lizard_
@Wizard_Lizard_ 11 ай бұрын
​@@LemonLittleCup Reminder: VGC Doubles
@SteveScapesYT
@SteveScapesYT 6 ай бұрын
As someone who played Smogon tiers most in Gen 4 & 5, it is WILD to hear priority in LC is bad… in DPP where LC community was born, with the most aggressive singles tier ever b/c no Eviolite it’s like “Quick Attack - the Tier,” with like everything using priority even without STAB. Again, no Eviolite probably a big part of that though
@sketchydude8431
@sketchydude8431 Ай бұрын
Having played gen 2 competitive a bit, that sounds pretty similar to priority in that gen Before gen 3, you could max out every single one of your stats with EV's. So compared to most gens, almost every pokemon is bulky Which means that the current priority moves (Quick Attack and Extreme Speed) didn't mean much since they didn't do enough damage. Even with the presence of the newly introduced Belly Drum.
@shieldon530
@shieldon530 11 ай бұрын
Oh man magby last gen was a PROBLEM lmfao 😂 I haven’t played much LC this gen yet (I played a bit at first before dunsparce and girafarig were banned) because my queen mienfoo got axed from the dex. This video has inspired me to consider picking it back up tho! Subscribed!
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thank you bro! Mienfoo just came back so it's a great time right now
@banthinkng
@banthinkng 11 ай бұрын
Loved the video mane, keep it up
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much bro
@alexq879
@alexq879 11 ай бұрын
Really well done video, ngl pretty excited to try little cup now!
@lieutenantlobster6395
@lieutenantlobster6395 11 ай бұрын
Came for little cup, stayed for hilarious intro
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thank you bro, I'm not sure if I love it or cringe at it.
@etohKP
@etohKP 11 ай бұрын
just lost to you on LC ladder :) keep up the good work
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I'ma watch your rocket league video in a bit and I'll drop a comment with what I think :)
@RetroDead
@RetroDead 11 ай бұрын
Crazy how you got me to subscribe in the first 30 seconds... scary even..
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I'm a spooky fellow ig... thanks so much for the kind words.
@Wizard_Lizard_
@Wizard_Lizard_ 11 ай бұрын
I love LC. My only gripe is everything having Eviolite is just lame to me. (Not objectively bad. Just lame) Hot Take: I feel like we should try item clause. Make people genuinely think of who should get the Eviolite.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
It'd be interesting, I might make a video on that topic! I agree that it's not bad, but lame. Very little item diversity.
@poru7665
@poru7665 11 ай бұрын
I would love for LC to have its own tiering system I know it wouldn’t work because it’s already a niche tier and LC UU or RU would be realistically played by three people but it would give a lot of the mons in LC something to do
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Well LC uu exists, I've personally never played it but I fully intend to soon ish. Just never really got around to. Yeah, RU would be nice because mons like magicarp or like half the bug and fairy types that all have 210 bst would finally be used, but with that being said the movepools on lots of those mons are grim to say the least. Still, I'd like it
@joesizzle10
@joesizzle10 11 ай бұрын
have you ever thought about using poliwag now that its back? Its got hypnosis, belly drum, and 19 speed that can be doubled with swift swim. I always felt it was slept on
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Poliwag @ Oran Berry Ability: Swift Swim Level: 5 Tera Type: Dragon EVs: 240 Atk / 36 Def / 36 SpD / 196 Spe Jolly Nature - Belly Drum - Encore - Liquidation - Tera Blast I could see a set like that working or some variation of it. I just made it in like 2 minutes but I think Poliwag's got potential. I'm not a huge fan of belly drum, but maybe if paired with gothita to remove voltorb (probably the only mon outspeeding it) and any priority mons, then I could see it working. In rain is another option, but that feels like a ton of work. You'd defiantly need to build a team around it so it seems quite constricting but I can totally see it working. I'll try to make a team and maybe reply to this comment whenever I do (probably gonna be 2 or 3 days I'm pretty busy)
@FreekPhil
@FreekPhil 11 ай бұрын
Great video bro you got my sub🎉
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
TYSM Bro :)
@LcEnjoyer
@LcEnjoyer 11 ай бұрын
I agree with this message
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yooo I love you man I'm a fan of you since like you had 100 subs, on my other gmail account. I'm so happy to see you here it means a lot to me :)
@LcEnjoyer
@LcEnjoyer 11 ай бұрын
@@LemonLittleCup Oh thats cool! Congrats on this vid, it absolutely popped off!
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Hopefully future videos can do nearly as well, it's a new format for me
@nef733
@nef733 11 ай бұрын
im sold on this channel
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I hope to upload more either every Saturday or every other Saturday. Stay tuned, I'm gonna keep going. Thanks for the kind words, it means a ton to me.
@somethingaboutgaming.2538
@somethingaboutgaming.2538 2 ай бұрын
Duralodon: can I joi- The devs: *Bans it before it even releases*
@aydeniswise4081
@aydeniswise4081 11 ай бұрын
Im gonna make a bulky little cup team with spikes and toxic chain 😈
@JonnyCrawford
@JonnyCrawford 11 ай бұрын
Seeing this made me miss belly drum ex-speed zigzagoon in LC
@stellad463
@stellad463 11 ай бұрын
Love the video, maybe try to mix your voice a little higher and the background music a lil lower? Great vid tho!
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was thinking that
@posobio
@posobio 11 ай бұрын
I somehow partially succeeded in using a stall team in LC, but I end up making fast progress with corrosion Salandit either way lol. Statuses are more annoying against my LC stall team than most people think, I rely too much on natural cure Swablu or magic bounce hattena, these are the best options or using a useless happiny with heal bell who dies to everything. And yes, I enjoy it just because Swablu is the GOAT. Also, if someone wants to try making a LC Stall team, a prankster mon is mandatory.
@amanjii701
@amanjii701 11 ай бұрын
bro that opening i cant lMAOOOOOOOOO that was so good
@biggslorp
@biggslorp 11 ай бұрын
The moment i played LC i fell in love with it. Its genuinely the best tier. I haven't played much since scarlet and violet because i couldn't use my circus themed team anymore lol. Mime Jr. was slept on last gen
@Gameproducer6
@Gameproducer6 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic video!! Hopefully this projects your channel out into the algorithm 🙌🙌
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Well It's been out under a day and I've gone from 34-344 subscribers and I've gotten 114k impressions so it seems like it. This is my first video I've really put a ton of effort into and it seems if payed of 1000 fold lol
@cfbaby
@cfbaby 11 ай бұрын
great video ! could definitely work on your conclusion, felt a bit sudden but other than that I love informative pokemon content
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah fr I wrote the script in like 20 minutes but I'm happy with the rest of it.
@twobadour
@twobadour 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. I haven’t really played any mons in gen 9, but I loved playing gen 8 LC and I still keep up with the new generation OU and LC and stuff on the forums. Just waiting for GameFreak to add my boy Archen back 🙏
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I wonder if he'll be any good without berry juice. I sure hope so
@twobadour
@twobadour 11 ай бұрын
He had some uses with scarf too thankfully
@phailupe2941
@phailupe2941 11 ай бұрын
Hey, thats pretty cool (good video)
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thanks bro
@Guy-May-Cry
@Guy-May-Cry 23 күн бұрын
You play LC because it's fun. I play LC because I love Mienfoo and Gible design wise. We are not the same.
@NachoMountDewCat
@NachoMountDewCat 11 ай бұрын
I play stall, but i play those in zu or pu where there is no good bulky mons without extreme flaws.
@phorchybug3286
@phorchybug3286 11 ай бұрын
So basically this is just my card collection in a nutshell.
@wildtiger482
@wildtiger482 11 ай бұрын
Nice editing 🔥
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, It means a lot to me. I'll try to keep it up!
@Gloobster1350
@Gloobster1350 11 ай бұрын
Intro was heat
@NathanCotrill
@NathanCotrill 11 ай бұрын
I liked gen 7 lc 2 years ago but gen 8 just feels off. What do you think is the thing causing the biggest differences
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Well, I can't really speak about gen 7 lc as I never played it much, sorry. I started lc in gen 8, last gen.
@xx-ee8fi
@xx-ee8fi 11 ай бұрын
That edit at the start was hard asf
@thegreatmilkguitar
@thegreatmilkguitar 11 ай бұрын
that was the greatest intro Ive ever seen
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I love me a funny intro
@2kiris
@2kiris 11 ай бұрын
loved the video! make more like this fr 🙏
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, I fully intend to. Either weekly or every other week on Saturday (hopefully)
@nikhilchhaba4013
@nikhilchhaba4013 11 ай бұрын
Someone actually mentioned freezai🎉
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
My G.O.A.T (And there's some other I like)
@yunaka_gaming
@yunaka_gaming 11 ай бұрын
Time to binge LC content
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Don't bother watching any vids before the gothita one, my early ones are embarrassing.
@AverageEggmonEnthusiast
@AverageEggmonEnthusiast 11 ай бұрын
What would be your thoughts on LC potentially having 2 tiers within it? It’s something I’ve been wondering about for a while now.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Like an LC UU? Lc UU exists but I don't think you can play it on ladder, only custom games (I think.) I'd love to see a metagame where more of the niche picks are meta, but I feel like LC already has low enough users to where too few people would play Lc UU. Still, it'd be nice to see.
@wanderingontheclouds
@wanderingontheclouds 11 ай бұрын
Love your voice love your content!
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, I've never heard that I have a nice voice before so that's good to hear, I'm a bit embarrassed by it tbh
@Wizzyhatg
@Wizzyhatg 11 ай бұрын
The problem with LC is how prevalent speed ties are. I'm most experienced with BWLC, there are constantly games decided by 19 speed ties
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I love/hate it for sure.
@Spoopmode
@Spoopmode 11 ай бұрын
I really liked the editing. What program did you use?
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Davinci Resolve, It's free.
@Alpha-zb8sp
@Alpha-zb8sp 5 ай бұрын
Also just the levels, as you level up, both the defence and hp scale, alongside attack, but Base Power doesn’t
@Dasin55
@Dasin55 11 ай бұрын
I love LC, I personally have been running a rain team with decent success and having a lot of fun
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Rain's pretty solid. What sweeper are you using, my favorites gotta be buizel but psyduck's up there too
@Uri6060
@Uri6060 3 ай бұрын
Little cup ive never really played much of, but i got a few weeks to learn so love ya
@katf9513
@katf9513 11 ай бұрын
Its a shame that stall doesn’t work. I don’t run full stall teams because I find the 50-turns-no-progress really boring but I think having defensive mons to pivot around gives me a lot of freedom. If someone shell smashes in OU, I can just haze or go an unaware mon and force it to switch.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, exactly
@afailurueditoruwu2492
@afailurueditoruwu2492 11 ай бұрын
little cup looks so unhinged I love it
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
It's crazy
@atsunai
@atsunai 11 ай бұрын
Liked ur channel
@melvondrewhite2674
@melvondrewhite2674 11 ай бұрын
@0:16-0:30 LEGENDARY 😂
@Crescendo961
@Crescendo961 11 ай бұрын
i feel like LC is the most enjoyable tier in most gens or one of them, because even though the pool of top quality LC mons isnt the same as the entire tiers pool of pokemon theres still a ton of room for making things work that OU and UU typically just do not have. take sweepers and unaware for instance, SV has 2 Unaware mons in LC, and 5 in OU. but in SM LC had 4 to the 2 mons of OU, SS which came before SS only really had Clef and Quag, the LC of SS would have had more options for the problem just because quirky one note mons that didnt evolve into a high base monster suddenly can "somewhat" carve a role for themselves in some capacity the power level difference isnt nearly as pronounced, so LC feels much more enjoyable in the teambuilding stage with much more impact from Typing, Movepool, and Abilities then just the raw stats of mons Azu for instance is still pure unmitigated garbage, but Huge Power even with just its base 20 Atk. puts it over Mudbray with a Base 100 Atk. 12/24 vs 20 if they both invested in Atk. theres so many mons that even though theyre not amazing in the tier, theyre far more playable then their respective evolution would be in a more standard tier
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I definitely agree, something about LC is so good. I think it's just how fast it is. Never see any stall
@MousechrisTFM
@MousechrisTFM 11 ай бұрын
Hey lemon, me and some friends were theory crafting a pokemon with the most immunities possible And it turned out there's only a single pokemon that can reach 6 immunities, and it's from little cup. So, idk if you'd wanna use this strategy, but if you do it's this. You need an Azurill with Sap Sipper, give it an Air Balloon. With the Tera Type Ghost. This will make it immunity to Dragon, Ghost, Ground, and Grass. If needed, you can trade your Dragon, Ghost, Ground Grass immunities for a Normal, Fighting, Ground, Grass immunity via terastalization. What do you think? Would this work for little cup? We never intended it to be a Little Cup Strategy, but since Azurill is the only non ghost type that has an ability that gives it an immunity, and it's two typings both have immunities, it's literally the only possible pokemon for the strategy.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I wonder, Azumarill gets belly drum and with that many immunities it could be good. It's always been a bit of a niche pick IMO, but maybe I'll see.
@MousechrisTFM
@MousechrisTFM 11 ай бұрын
@@LemonLittleCup no no no Azurill, not Azumarill It loses the normal typing apon evolution Feel free to make a video on the strategy if you want
@rike971
@rike971 11 ай бұрын
Having the most immunities possible is great but doesn't make a Pokémon the most powerful in a metagame or not even a powerful on for that matter. Shedinja is technically the Pokémon with the most immunities in the game thanks to Wonder Guard and it gets one-shot by any form of hazards, poison, burn, Rocky Helmet, Leech Seed, Sand it's typing is atrocious with many weaknesses and it has low stats. Now how does it relate to Azurill ? Well it has atrocious stats, even for LC and its movepool is quite restricted and without Eviolite there's no way Azurill would tank powerful hits. Maybe a gimmick set can work on a few matches but overall outside of gimmicks, you're not going to use Azurill over the many powerful Pokémon
@MousechrisTFM
@MousechrisTFM 11 ай бұрын
@@rike971 oh yeah I'm sure, but I do find it hilarious that the one pokemon that can pull off this strat is Azurill of all of them, a literal baby pokemon.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Oh yeah that's what I meant. Not being a water type sucks because it doesn't have STAB aqua jett. I tried earlier in the gen with Tera Water to mixed success but I'm yet to trey post DLC
@FabsterCola
@FabsterCola 11 ай бұрын
I used to play LC along with NU and PU back in gen 6. Stopped playing in gen 7 tried getting back in gen 8, quite liked how rediculous LC was at the start of that gen, never went back after that. Did play BDSP RU which I really liked and I also tried gen 9 RU which was fine. Perhaps I need to give LC another shot this gen. I even participated in a LC draft league back in gen 6 had drafted Ponyta/Carvannah/Cottonee/Onix/Blitzle/Croagunk/Duskull/Trubbish/Baltoy. I remember all the good ghost types and spinners were sniped hence the Duskull and Baltoy picks. Didnt get too far from what I remember
@KiLLKiNDLY
@KiLLKiNDLY 11 ай бұрын
I stopped playing on showdown a while ago when my laptop broke and I lost all the teams I had made for years I always found LC to be pretty fun, but your point about the OP moves seems to have gotten way worse
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, too many unevolved mons get crazy moves. Just look at how many mons get earthquake or close combat. It's pretty crazy TBH
@JohnHunterPlayerr
@JohnHunterPlayerr 11 ай бұрын
Murcrow being banned just makes me sad face.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Before it was banned it was busted, but it's certainly a fun mon and it has a stellar design IMO
@aetherblackbolt1301
@aetherblackbolt1301 11 ай бұрын
I have been looking for a little cup channel since Freezai did a couple videos on it. This is a good intro video to put on the Home Page of your channel.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, all of my older videos past my gothita one are pretty trash. I'll put it on there for sure, definitely my best vid by far.
@SGJetPro
@SGJetPro 11 ай бұрын
Super fun video! Never looked into little cup but it sounds dope. Hate to be that gal, but it’s spelled ‘explanation’
@typhlosion7872
@typhlosion7872 11 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, I haven't played Little Cup since like gen 6, but not because I don't like the tier. It's enjoyable, just not my style. I haven't even played base OU in a long while either. I always just wait for pokebilities to return and give me my content farm
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah I don't love OU, and I can see how LC can be not everyone's style. Just do what you genuinely love, that's my advice.
@typhlosion7872
@typhlosion7872 11 ай бұрын
@@LemonLittleCup that's what I've been doing for a long time. Hell, even made major contributions to bans in pokebilities last generation, which I do have a lot of pride because of
@omiegon
@omiegon 9 ай бұрын
Bro I subscribed but WHAT is the actual first song you put in the video when sandshrew earthquaked shellder? It's not in the links you posted.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 9 ай бұрын
And to those I love, thanks for sticking around.
@dahuntre
@dahuntre 11 ай бұрын
I’ve dabbled in LC, it’s fun to use goofy lil guys, especially those whose final evos aren’t near OU
@Superboi100
@Superboi100 8 ай бұрын
I only watch this vid for the intro, no offense but its that lit
@smugs7921
@smugs7921 11 ай бұрын
LC Doubles would probably be wild
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
They have that, I've never tried it though. On my "to play" list along with LC UU.
@PokeBrodie
@PokeBrodie 11 ай бұрын
this gon make me play LC
@AshenDust_
@AshenDust_ 11 ай бұрын
I’m not sure if there being a lot of priority in OU really helps with setup sweepers that much. Of all the examples you listed only Kingambit and Dragonite are OU, and Iron Valient quad resists Sucker Punch.
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, but it's not crazy to see any of them in OU. They're all at least okay options unlike in LC where half of the priority mons are near unusable. I see what you mean though, not to mention priority doesnt help against DD Dragonite Extreme speed.
@stevehiler5021
@stevehiler5021 Ай бұрын
Do you do 1v1s? I’ve been preaching lc for so long bc it takes out the things I hate in ou and make the games shorter so a lot of them are still learning the meta
@davepumphernickel9568
@davepumphernickel9568 11 ай бұрын
You know it’s funny too think Pokémon stadium just added little cup, and there’s people that are just like “That, that is what I’m going to play” like it’s a very Chad mindset.
@quiche6400
@quiche6400 11 ай бұрын
Why do you reference belly drum magby being a problem last gen when it was clearly belly drum zigsagoon or dd scraggy lol
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
yeah those were worse, but magby is more recent so it's fresher in the memory. I'm with you that those two are the real PTSD causing ones though
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 11 ай бұрын
It's nice, as a LC aficionado, to see a new video that helps people get into this fascinating format (I say that even though I barely even played Gen 9 LC since launch, legitimately one of my least favorite gens of LC, a real shame because I loved Gen 8 LC. Granted, that applies to gen 9 in general for me but I digress). Kudos to your explanations, I really liked that video
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, I hope to make more videos.
@willowrush4765
@willowrush4765 11 ай бұрын
Done laddering since gen 7 and now doing LC draft leagues here and there currently and like the fast pace where you don't have to be in a match for 100 turns.
@datnoobbee8576
@datnoobbee8576 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see how Duraladon affects the LC metagame when the dlc part 2 drops!
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Probably like C- tier, loses to Mienfoo lol
@stupidbeatdown1311
@stupidbeatdown1311 11 ай бұрын
Hey man,im new to little cup and i dont know anything about the metagame,can you summarize for me whats good in the tier?Also i dont understand about the iv spread part of LC so i hope you can explain it for me.Thanks :33
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Well, I'd say to look at the viability rankings to figure out what's good, and I'll drop a video link of a different creator that I respect on IV spreads (I might make a video later but that's not something I'm planning in the near future.) www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-lc-viability-rankings.3712664/ Viability Rankings kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHq6f3eZht2ImbM IV Spread Video Hopefully those help :3
@stupidbeatdown1311
@stupidbeatdown1311 11 ай бұрын
@@LemonLittleCup thank you very much
@Mushybase
@Mushybase 11 ай бұрын
Great vid, idk why i watched it tho i dont play showdown and have literally 0 interest in little cup
@thesillyone3837
@thesillyone3837 11 ай бұрын
Really think lc needs an uber and uu tiers
@th3_ph4ntomreborn31
@th3_ph4ntomreborn31 11 ай бұрын
Clayrex base in Uber little cup let's go
@e2011ugdia
@e2011ugdia 24 күн бұрын
What mons should i use in little cup? And how should i spread their EVs?
@staco522
@staco522 11 ай бұрын
the fact that jigglypuff isnt allowed in LC (i think) hurts me
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
Yeah the pre evolution Igblybuff sucks as well it's not even good or usable really
@pottedplanttv9729
@pottedplanttv9729 11 ай бұрын
man just went up 600 subs from 1 video
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
I genuinely cannot believe it. I was sorta done with YT as I only had 34 subs and was getting 200-300 views on a good day and my content was pretty low effort and bad tbh. I decided "I'll make one genuinely really high effort video that I care about and see what happens" and it seems like making good content pays off lol, although I don't think I deserve this much. Still feels unreal. New vids either every Saturday or every other Saturday so stay tuned, I'ma drop some bangers
@pottedplanttv9729
@pottedplanttv9729 11 ай бұрын
@@LemonLittleCup if you ever drop a discord server some day, let us know too
@LemonLittleCup
@LemonLittleCup 11 ай бұрын
@@pottedplanttv9729 I sorta doubt it but, maybe some day. I just think there's no need for now as the LC discord already exists. I also don't use discord much at all. I might at some point though.
@CluelessYukan
@CluelessYukan 11 ай бұрын
Pretty cool, my friend's been telling me to try little cup. You are a lot more persuasive than that brodie.
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