Why Logic Modules are Ace: Feat. EricaSynths Pico Logic

[@FelipeTellez]

i keep coming back to your videos mate, amazing work, and super educational

[@geecen]

8:20 badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom

[@linasmak9199]

snaaaaake snaaaakeeee

[@alfiekennedy1657]

Mushroom mushroom!

[@somnaut]

Ohhh iiiits a snaaaaake

[@attaboy8738]

Great vid! I think one simple thing that is overlooked is using mults or stackables when using the logic modules. Hearing the original gates with the output of the logic modules adds so much amazing rhythmic availability. I think you covered this is such an excellent manner in the 1st part of this vid. High Kudos to you!

[@Oilpanicmusic]

The Pico units will take a clock from anything including tempi if you run them through an attenuator first. If the voltage of the rising edge is too high they will not register the edge. This is at least how some of the other units in the same series work. You can easily diy cables with a resistor to ground so that the cable becomes an attenuated cable, and then you will not need the attenuation module in between.

[@NimrodScott]

Well professor, your lecture on Boolean logic is more fun than the course I took in college. That course was, while highly logical, very unmusical. Brilliant!

[@carloschafin9144]

You're so right about it being hard to get excited about logic modules, but they can be interesting. Particularly if your trying to plug that stray 3HP hole in your rack with something useful. You've pico'd my interest!

[@Starshine777]

The desync'd pattern lengths in to the sum are f*ing brilliant

[@GuitarsAndSynths]

nice! Logic modules and s&h modules are often overlooked and super helpful.

[@KentuckyMusic]

Great video! I feel that the real fun with logic comes in when you start playing with gate width, anything from artificial runs to open/closed hats. Pulse-width modulation at audio rate makes all sorts of nuts sounds with logic as well :)

[@ModArch]

I am but a simple man. I see a mylarmelodies video, I click like.

[@fosferus]

14:07 best mylar moment yet. i randomly harmonize with my modular like that too sometimes. now i'm that guy at work for laughing...

[@thejoshuathomas]

Besides simple and compound interest learned in financial math, truth tables are the first thing I learned in college math that's actually usable in something I do. Who knew, lol.

[@CastToVoid]

Great video and explanation. Makes it sound... well... logical

[@aeropilot4419]

Awesome as always, thank you Alex ... been enjoying my 2hp Logic module, but liking the Pico units too now that I've seen them 🙂 Cheers

[@pboosten]

Since my rack is 85hp (which made it easier to cut the rails to length), I definitely need some modules with odd hp measurement :)

[@axeman2638]

I learn so much from your videos, thanks heaps.

[@serenemachine9110]

That pattern starting around 11:07 is real nice!

[@mixolydian2010]

Thanks for the video. Have you considered doing a utilities video were you could show us how much more you can get out of your system with them? Loved the Maths video you did, i bought one based on your recommendation, thanks!

[@uttuclub]

mixolydian2010 agreed this would be ace!

[@MmostlyRandom]

just put the logic in my rig and OMG its like the final piece of the jigsaw. (although we all know it won't be the actual final piece :) awesome wee thing. (getting variation has been my bugbear for a while now and this wee guy sorts it)

[@256k_]

logic gates are one of those things that get me the most excited about modular... creating so many variations of patterns based on the same basic sources. I got tired of drawing precisely the patterns i wanted (either on a screen or even on a hardware sequencer) i dont want to write music anymore, i want to experiment with music, and logic gates are a very awesome tool for this kindof experimentation also for the DIY folks out there, logic gates are super simple to make... they all come on various IC chips with an identical pinout. all you really need to do is hookup jacks to the inputs and outputs and you're set. you could be fancy and add LEDs on each jack and probably would be smart to add some voltage protection to your inputs (avoid negative voltages or pushing a 10V signal into a 5 volt chip although i think it can tolerate it ) but honestly if you raw dog it you're still gonna make it work.

[@JoshuaKennedy321]

That's a clever technique of beatmaking which I stumbled upon literally a week before spotting this video. Boolean operators are not that hard to remember. They are only concerned with whether a signal is on (higher than threshold) or off. The basic ones (aside from NOT, which simply spits out the opposite of the input) are AND, OR, XOR .. an N in the name means the output is inverted to make it the logical opposite of its N-less cousin. I find it simplest to think of them in terms of "what conditions cause the output to be on?" AND = if both inputs are on. NAND = if any input is off. OR = if any input is on. NOR = if both inputs are off. XOR = if the two inputs are different. NXOR = if the two inputs are the same. NAND and NOR are not super useful for beat combining since they only fire when something is off, i.e. out pf phase with your gate pattern. NXOR gives you the outputs of AND and NOR combined and tends to be super busy with in- and out-of-phase gates.

[@cubis]

Most integrated circuits are built entirely out of nand (or entirely nor) gates because you can combine them together to get all other gates. When massed produced it's cheaper to just make a bunch of the same thing. Not super helpful with a modular setup but just thought that was an interesting sidenote

[@adrianrabbage4996]

Fascinating stuff, got to get me some modular gear!

[@JaseLovesDub]

Great video. Would have liked to gave seen some more Cv based examples on the A Logic module. :)

[@smartassrecords]

i was using ladik B logic to trigger or pulse through the shapeshifter presets as kind of a percussion breakdown while i kind of re-arrange to get into the next bit .

[@pantalalabs]

Wow ....very nice use of Logic!!! Thanks!

[@soundunitz]

nice example of your perfect pitch at 14:07 ;)

[@Cowcodude]

After seeing this video I kinda went crazy with the Erica Synths Pico stuff. If anyone out there is going modular on a budget, seriously check them out.

[@FreqBand]

I understand the two Square waves are going into Logic and the result is sent to a Filter. @ 21:16.... but what is being done with the two Sine waves ? ......just the three signals summed into an audio mixer ? What part do the Sines play in this patch ?

[@AlexxSawyer]

I love your videos !

[@hrnekbezucha]

"Logic is always interesting and fun to mess around with." For sure

[@Lanaestra]

You could actually work out and plan the interactions between two euclidean rhythms in advance if you multiply the length of each pattern by the length of the other to find a common divisor length where they both loop back to the starting position and then plotting both out in separate rows in excel. Then you could just define the logic of other sequences and drag across to make new rows for and/or/xor/etc.

[@stephenmandelbaum2027]

Good old truth tables. Looked a lot at them whilst studying programming.

[@shinyless]

the little nerd from Bastl is awesome for that kind of stuff too :)

[@AaBb-hg3kd]

7:10 sounds like Jeans Team - Waffenladen 👌 Nice video as always!

[@imageofsin]

i feel terrible because i saw this video like a year ago and got a 2hp logic module, but have had it in my rack since then and literally never used it because im still too scared of it. now that im getting more into drum programming im re watching this video again in the hopes of conquering my fear :)

[@stotakoj6393]

I can tell by the overexposed blue lights, that this is probably filmed with a Sony Camera. Maybe A7s? :D Having trouble with this on a daily basis as a videographer. Gets really nasty on live shows or clubs ...

[@mylarmelodies]

Stotakoj Yep. On PP7, ISO3200 - doesn’t bother me but I bet it would be worse at a live show!!

[@hrnekbezucha]

Makes a nice effect

[@alliefdxproductionservices5856]

Sony colour is ridiculously frustrating like this - you need to compensate with crazy lighting and turn the ISO down to under 800 for it to go away. Not a big deal for a video like this, but you definitely don't want to be taking an A7S to any of my shows, I _love_ blue :P

[@desktorp]

we need less artificial blue light in our lives

[@meerkatzThe23]

wow;respect!

[@Vertexavery]

Just grabbed the Blue Lantern CMOS Party and I need like three more of them.

[@riamiwovideos]

nice system!! I think I have to go on with my modular-stuff:)

[@DuncanFoster]

Any idea why the Tempi doesn't work? Peak voltage of the trigger?

[@mylarmelodies]

From Ericasynths themselves: "Sometimes modules from other manufacturers do not trigger the Pico Logic module due to the high impedance of their outputs. For modules causing this, we suggest putting their gates through a buffered multiple or amplifier first."

[@JoshuaKennedy321]

I would have said it's because the Pico gate threshold is higher than the output of the other modules. The Pico system is based on 10v CV while a lot of other manufacturers use a 5v range. I have the Pico VCA and it's fully open at 10v, which makes it frustratingly quiet when I feed it CV from 5v modules. You have to add an offset to compensate.

[@MrDarkSky176]

how goods erica synths! mate thanks so much for all your videos im learning so much what eurorack cases are you using there?

[@mylarmelodies]

It’s a big Ginko Synthese DIY case! Was defo best bang for buck a few years ago, not sure if still is?

[@avantlanuit]

merci pour cette bonne démo

[@syntholabo]

Twisty Handclaw of Modular Uncertainty... strikes again

[@valdir7426]

I'm curious; can I make a binary random generator (random gate) with a random S&H and the A logic? like feeding the S&H into one input and nothing (or DC) into the other; and I get a gate out of the max out? if nothing is plugged does it compare the first signal to 0V?

[@esqueish]

Nice! It’s like Microsoft Excel formulas for modular synths.

[@robinweber9640]

18:50 "God Damn"

[@somnaut]

7:01 Make a track out of that crazy dancehall goodness!

[@esteelvauce7288]

he´s not lying

[@seansnyder7744]

This makes me think of Frequency Modulation synthesis (DX7)

[@andrewmarshall195]

8 min and 20 seconds in, reminds me of that badger badger badger thing that was all the rage back in the day...

[@mylarmelodies]

🍄🍄

[@JohnTrasher]

@@mylarmelodies 😁

[@PaulBoos]

OK this is convincing me I 1 - don't need a big clock divider module and 2 - rethinking a sequencer because of the interface.

[@wackenthaljef]

Hi Mylar...if you had time;.im lookin for a cool (quite cheap) eurorack sequencer..have U an idea for that? Thks a lot for all your "fantasticaly- clear- vids"!

[@mylarmelodies]

Without doubt: Beatstep Pro!

[@wackenthaljef]

Thanks...we talked about it also theses days...thanks a lot!................................................ ...i wanted to sayI loved your Metropolis vid too...

[@510th]

Hi, and thanks for all the great uploads! Questions.. you say put 2 things in get 3 things out. So you mean, have 2 things triggering and get a 3rd "for free" ? :D And then obviously you have to use stack cables or a mult to use the 2 triggers as triggers for other modules AND as 2 inputs to the logic module? That make sense???? I think I get it but I'm a newbie still.. thnx again - cheers!

[@mylarmelodies]

Yep as in you make two patterns in one place and the logic module integrates them to make a third pattern!

[@tachelesreden]

The simpel modules are always the best. For me, that is what modular is all about!

[@deathvalley507]

6:49 this makes me laugh quite a bit

[@mtg101010]

From a “pure efficiency POV, “and” logic can be accomplished with a single VCA. Easy peasy.

[@moreteamrshifter]

explain, please, thanks.

[@AshBashVids]

Two gates - one in input, the other in CV input of VCA. Voila - AND logic! You can also use mixers for OR logic, and clock dividers as flip-flops.

[@TheCALMInstitute]

Dude, I love this, thank you.

[@alancurrall]

Cool! New mic or cold?

[@DMT353]

There's 808 likes on this video. I didn't have the heart to ruin it.

[@mylarmelodies]

Damnit!

[@somnaut]

I’ll add my like toward next 8,080 likes goal

[@rlanguillat]

1,1k now!

[@AaBb-hg3kd]

07:26 „wir sind die Jungs vom Waffenladen, Gold und Silber sind unsere Farben...“

[@AaBb-hg3kd]

Listen to Jeans Team - Waffenladen

[@maxwellotto4202]

Is there a min voltage required to trigger? You mention a few modules failing to trigger any output.

[@maxwellotto4202]

After looking at some manuals I see min input for logic is 2.5v, well below the output of Tempi or Circadian Rhythms. I wonder why they don’t work??

[@mylarmelodies]

Otto Max Renner Just checked with Ericasynths - 5V required!

[@thetaflux6267]

Does the pico logic work with CVs as well as gates? voltage is voltage, after all...

[@JoshuaKennedy321]

The alogic does, but the standard logic is binary i.e. it has an input threshold so a signal above that threshold is considered "on" and below that threshold is "off." The output is strictly gates .. I don't know for sure but since it's Pico I would guess they are +10v.

[@KOIBAmusic]

Great!

[@Die_Quelle]

Everytime i see new videos in my sub box from you i want to buy some stuff...can you recommend "starter" gear? What devices do I need? I think some kind of midi controller to get the sound to my computer (to have more possibilities) and a synthesizer? What to start with? First thought was Arturia Microbrute but im not sure...Would be great if you can give some advices! Thanks

[@GlitchWolf]

14:06 Mylar does Stereolab kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYmzpGWdhNSMhKM

[@edoardoschnell]

11:00 "No one's that clever" you really don't need to be that clever... 1 AND 1 = 1, all other input combos = 0 :)

[@ph0sph0rcrt7]

0:38 intewwwwesting... Elmer fudd

[@NickHchaos]

If you have a fully analog setup I understand the point of Logic modules, but I'd argue if you have some decently competent digital modules (especially when it comes to sequencing) that have cv over clock etc., and you have some complex LFOs, random voltages, etc., you don't really need them. You can create all these types of changes in terms of rhythms, clocks, etc. by driving attenuation in different ways.

[@Hezza11]

I don't think digital or analog has much to do with it. Having 1 complex LFO isn't the same as deriving a complex LFO using two simple ones, as now you'd have 3 rhythmically linked LFOs, same for clock divisions and logic gates. Run two separate sequencers and then use the logic to trigger 3rd events when the two sequences overlap (or don't overlap depending on AND, OR, XOR, NAND etc) I'm not sure how you would achieve those effects with a digital module and CV control.

[@NickHchaos]

Hezza11 check out the octasource and the stillson hammer mk2. You can achieve everything you're describing with those 2. If you're steevio and you want to do almost EVERYTHING analog then you need clock modules, logic, precision adders etc..but I prefer to cram such things in smaller HP, so I don't.

[@Hezza11]

I really don't see how, I know the Stillson Hammer has 4 sequence tracks but how would you get it to fire a trigger when two of its tracks overlap? They're both great modules and are feature rich, but they ain't got no logic in. Can see this turning into a pointless internet argument so will leave it there, different strokes for different folks and all that.

[@NickHchaos]

There is cv over every parameter and probability modes--therefore, you can create all manner of strange, shifting, changing clocks. I've owned clock modules, switches, etc. and sold them all because they were unnecessary. If you don't own one though, you might not know firsthand. You night be getting at "the methods of programming are different,"; yes, if you think about things in that way, maybe the results will not be *exactly* the same, but for my purposes, there is nothing to be achieved at this point from other such modules in terms of getting a wide variety of musical results.

[@NickHchaos]

Here's an old video with old firmware in which just by changing the built in attenuation of cv on the tracks of SHMk2 I can arrive at constantly changing rhythms due to the cv affecting gate, burst, etc.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iYOpo2Wpr99_ers At the time I also had a 4ms QCD I was using in conjunction with it..but I sold it..because it was superfluous as long as you have some interesting cv going into the SHMk2s. Octasource!!

[@kellymerrill5294]

I like experimental, electronic, avant garde music but I find exclusive modular music to be quite boring.

[@moreteamrshifter]

bollocks x

[@DBPawlan]

Sounds like you fried your voice ;-P

[@mylarmelodies]

Ha. A little, but Lavalier mic sounds different to usual Ribbon - trying out different tools!!

[@6884]

7:27 mega mega white thing

[@jessejamesmcclear3613]

You sound like you had a rough night prior. ;)