Why LUMS graduates are different Ft. Muhammad Saim Rehman | 176 | TBT

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In conversation with tonight’s guest, Muhammad Saim Rehman. How has his life been like? What is he studying? How should we react to trauma? How was his experience in BMI and in LUMS? Does studying O/A level open more doors for you in Pakistan? What is the difference between people in Karachi and Lahore? What is Saim planning on doing and how he envisions Pakistan 30 years from now? Catch it all in Tonight’s episode.
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00:00 Tonight’s guest: Muhammad Saim Rehman
00:23 What’s happening in Saim’s life?
06:41 How to react if someone we know passes away?
11:17 Does he see Cognitive Dissonance in play?
13:35 Is money the main motivator to work?
14:45 How was Saim’s experience in BMI?
17:15 Does studying O/A level give you an edge over other students in Pakistan?
21:52 How was Saim’s experience in LUMS?
28:33 What is the difference between people in Karachi and Lahore?
36:43 Have Karachiite normalized trauma?
44:09 How is Management Sciences as a career?
53:15 In terms of content what to expect from him?
56:47 How does he see Pakistan 30 years from now?
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[@aprilqureshi4666]

I love how you said that children at LUMS are so protected in their own environment and they lack acknowledgement of the real actual world around them that when they come out of that place, they all end up criticising. You literally put my thoughts into words.

[@fatimasadiq5405]

I think that’s the case with every top tier uni Pak!

[@Sikanderhimself]

@@fatimasadiq5405 every top tier? I think there are only Lums and IBA

[@mba9565]

There is something called ground reality. When you are fortunate enough to have protected environment you then have very less knowledge about ground realities you just start to live in your own world and only vibe with the people that are living the same life as you. Aur jo loog zyada ground realities main reh rahay hotay hain woh in logon ko “burgers” ya “spoiled brats” aka bigri awaam bolnay lagg jatay hain.

[@greenjupiter]

I didn't think this about lums but actually thought the exact same thing about NCA

[@SaimRehman]

It is always a pleasure talking with you, Muzamil bhai! Thank you for having me 🙏🏻❤️

[@tis_i_talha]

Getting to know 'what is happening and why is it really happening' That resonated man, thought to put it down

[@muhammadusmanyousaf1387]

Great to finally see an old friend in a podcast that I watch almost everyday 🤙🏻

[@maheenasif4568]

Love that Saim's EMPATHY THING. People take it as a very small thing but in reality empathy is everything. I wish you success from the core of my heart. Keep inspiring!!

[@forreal2009]

Honestly the last question- where do we youngsters see Pakistan is so hopeful, it creates a vision. Thank u muzammil sir. We really appreciate ur efforts. This deep convos r much needed 🤍

[@sleepyhead998]

i love saim for his realism . He’s comforting . Love from India Saim ❤ 🇮🇳

[@learner3268]

Muzammil bhai, just love you for being honest and the way you make the guest so comfortable by sharing your own side and making him feel not cornered . I watch every podcast you post within one day of posting. Please keep making ❤❤❤❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️ Love from KEMU

[@forreal2009]

A really interesting convo! 😙Loved how psychology, human behaviour is given utmost importance!! 🍫Really enjoyed it 🙌

[@samrazaidi5581]

I really appreciate you for saying that Karachiites have this coping mechanism to get used to all of this or else 'they would go mad' . Despite the horrible incidents you faced in Karachi, you put it out in such a kind way. I face these issues a lot and despite being a Karachiite I never felt comfortable so I can completely imagine how tough it must've been for you. I'm so fed up with my hometown that Im really looking forward to move to Islamabad somehow. Karachi has its own perks but unfortunately every shit is being dumped here in terms of people and garbage both for years that its getting extremely difficult for families to continue their lives peacefully.

[@daniaqamar593]

I absolutely loved this episode! Saim, you seem like an exciting, eager individual ready to offer the lot of us fascinating content!

[@engrWajih]

That is so true for the people of Karachi. We have actually normalised trauma.

[@fazilachauhan183]

I loved how he talked about his passion in the last minutes, though throughout the conversation he was soo confused to talk about his majors in the university. I don't know if he actually wanted to pursue it or just ended up in LUMS due to social pressure but I genuinely pray that his degree could help him pursue his passion in the future inshALLAh.

[@ridaanwar5487]

So proud to listen to you on this podcast. Love Muzamil bhai's content. Looking forward to great things from you both

[@mahnoorhamid4132]

Two amazing people having some interesting conversation

[@shahrozsalman3417]

bruhhh about that bus experience in karachi. ITS WILDDD! 3 years ago, my first ever solo public bus ride, and as my stop arrived I asked the conductor to stop the bus but the bus didn't even slowed down and the conductor forced me to jump off the bus due to the anxiety and the pressure I jumped off of the running bus, rolled on the road, lost my tooth with various injuries.

[@talhakhosa]

WHENEVER I SEE SAIM BHAI IT LIKE HE IS COMING TO CLASSES AND BEING THE COOLEST GUY FOR BMI ELECTIONS AND THE BEST HEADBOY WE GOT

[@Medlearnify]

A good university gives opportunities. It depends on the student to avail them. However the thing is even if you have a little bit desire for growth you will get the best opportunities if your uni is developed and in the process you will grow. Contrary to that, if uni is not developed first off opportunities are hard to come by, secondly there is resistance because those opportunities are not normalized enough. That's the case in most under developed universities.

[@fakhrazarin6986]

Hats off to muzumail for sharing his trauma publicly

[@habibafaisal3828]

soo many people need to watch this and understand the things being talked about here👏👏

[@itissahithi]

There are so many concepts discussed in this video. Interesting video.

[@usmanazam4662]

Wow man, from when it started initially and me thinking why tf am I hearing it to that point of cognitive... And from there it was a blast 🔥 💯 🔥. Loved it gentlemen!

[@hibashamim3979]

Was waiting for this incredible person to hop on your podcast. Finally 💕 And yes, us Karachiites are so used-too of trauma that we are unable to sense it at this point.

[@wajeehasami6090]

This podcast is not available on apple podcasts

[@WaliKhan_2k]

Being a Karachiite, I know where you are coming from - But sad part is that the residents cannot do much about it - at best we can do is to avoid and normalize unfortunately. If we keep on thinking over it, it will waste a lot of emotional energy and you end up doing nothing and only rant.

[@jamalnasir9522]

Muzamil bhai, I love your work. keep it up and my best wishes are with you!😊

[@amaraiftikharofficial]

Muzamil voice is the best part of this podcast 👏

[@abcdabcd33327]

Such a nice concept of interviewing students

[@WarriorAjk]

Was waiting for this!

[@vjlogs2490]

I thought that the "O level and A level students are privileged!" in the sense of getting the the "outcome of education" but opportunities arise at a personal pace! Hence, it is proved that no one is superior! yeah!!!

[@aladdinkayqubad1645]

It's literally just the exams, you can sign up for them privately as well! Just hit the books bro!

[@salman.naseem]

Loved it!!

[@KhayyamSajid]

First of Saim KING!

[@SaimRehman]

🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️

[@mehranali102]

Bhi podcast Spotify pa ha ????

[@MinahilNoor-fk7tn]

Its very happy and strange to see saim in serious conversation because i have seen him laughing and doing funny things in a lot of videos 😂😂😂

[@88khizrakhursheed37]

For the very first time i come across such sensible host😇

[@umeraamiriam]

Absolutely loved it! Sorry bout u had to face that in Karachi.

[@owaisahmed6016]

Really, Qualitative and Quantitative Research Methods, an amazing course, I have studied in my BBA, we use it for Business Intelligence and for physical quality parameters...

[@frozishbatool4702]

Can a fsc pre-medical student apply in Lums? (Because its test comprise of (MATHS)

[@syedtahamehdi7384]

No offence to Saim, but that few minutes long weigh-in by Muzamil Bhai on the Karachiite trauma segment of the video amounted to more than the rest of the podcast. Brilliant outlook.

[@dragonblade6892]

23:50 pressure because “best of Pakistan is here” or “most privileged of Pakistan is here” ? Don’t really think that the best* of Pakistan is in LUMS when the playing field isn’t even for the entire country .. the opportunity the elite get from schooling to university is no where the same the middle or below avg. people get .. so it’s not the best but just the most privileged of Pakistan

[@ali19231]

Correct.

[@caesar9361]

Loved it Goodluck to you Saim

[@Daytradingwithshahid]

What the hell😏 Why muzamil ia not getting more subscribers? Literally no one is providing such sort of productive and knowledgeable content....

[@nycto16]

One thing I've noticed kids from top universities have that they are damn passionate about their majors... either its business, liberal arts, engineering, medicine, design etc. In normal unis, only few people are passionate to study their major from heart not just for grades and piece of paper "degree". I'm a business student with double majors in finance and marketing and I'm in love with my curriculum but I've seen sadly enough majority of classmates just studying business because of their parents, they don't get enough marks for med or engineering blah blah.. As a Sapiosexual (a person who loves smart/passionate people), I found really hard to make friends in class since they are not even 1% motivated to do their studies. Being sapiosexual doesn't mean you are nerd, I'm not! But you love the company and sitting with smart people talking about academics, career interests etc.

[@Ehsan2003]

If that means sapiosexual then maybe I'm also sapiosexual?

[@nycto16]

@@Ehsan2003 Yes then you are... if you attract to people who are ambitious to study, you enjoy your academics, loves to study without any time limit...

[@muhammadumer87910]

That's totally true.

[@nycto16]

yupp

[@KhadijaAzamCh]

So pure person saim really necessary having such soul in every family so entertaining so cute apart from he makes funny face to make us laugh but still like him a lot ❤️👉👈

[@fahadmalik7819]

Muzamil thanks for this video. Keep making more impactful videos

[@samar9192]

Finally a guest who is younger than me :D otherwise seeing all the other experienced people i feel like such an unaccomplished chooza 🙈

[@distracteddasf]

please, have a podcast with a boy who is currently pursuing bachelor's in economics

[@nabeelimdad262]

Don't know how many gazillion times I will listen to this. Big fan sir! 🙌

[@mhk5079]

36:43 so much real, all these from bus to the wild dog to everything that happened with me during my initial hostel life ... a big trauma

[@washmanoor9923]

I too am studying Game Theory of Economics nowadays and that Prisoners Dilemma too

[@SuperTipu10]

Saim Rehman, what a man. Bro, I'd love to meet you.

[@uchihakaneki9973]

37:03 his reaction is so funny, people outside karachi really won't get it but yeah this happens.

[@nycto16]

Normal unis: Business Research Methods (BRM) LUMS: Quantitative and Qualitative Research Methods in Business

[@88khizrakhursheed37]

Loved the podcast

[@Huzaifakiani47]

Why Ravians(GCU)are different

[@nycto16]

Pro of studying Management/Business: You learn everything from psychology to economics, from media to sociology etc.

[@rimsha2599]

Can anyone please explain to me about the exact meaning of burger don't judge me about this question i am just in class nine and don't know about it and never listen it.

[@ibad3318]

karachi lingo equivalent for mummy daddy

[@nycto16]

Pakistanis trying to be Americans. Simple.

[@annasshaikh2575]

Want a Full Podcast On Karachiites And Your Stories

[@farwahabbas4962]

This was soo cute, Saim! Happy to hear that you enjoyed your oweek and still reminisce about it. More power to you, kiddo!

[@user-cr5nz8op7w]

I don't have any regrets in my life but no getting into lums is one. I was dreaming to join lums since 1 year of college but then covid happened and got random marks and wasn't eligible for applying. Lol still hurts

[@hamzairfan7330]

you've got a long life ahead of you mate inshallah better chances will arise.

[@waleedkhan-gd4gd]

Not missing out on much. Trust me 🤣

[@raheenkabir8608]

@@hamzairfan7330 But why waleed

[@AudiobooksPlatform]

I wish one day I'll be there INSHA ALLAH

[@personalizedgifts9809]

LETS TAKE UP THE CHALLENGE

[@irumraheel4323]

Apky podcast achy hty par bht long, zra kam kr diya kren plz

[@alamzaibkhan1399]

Game theory also used in IR. There are different games like gamr of Chicken , stag hunt, battle of sexes, prisoners dilemma etc. Bacically game theory is all about decisions making in time of conflict situation and how to get more payoff.

[@particularlynoone9026]

He messed that up pretty bad. He could have explained better.

[@vjlogs2490]

.....great!

[@Harisism]

Mazaydaar

[@mariumjawad1967]

Interview a recent grad from PiFD, such an underfunded and necessary institute producing world class designers

[@ahrarnadeem206]

This is gone one of the favourite broadcast ✨🙌

[@saadabdullah1182]

16:41 is every desi parent's thought about buisness😂💯

[@wahabkhan7562]

As Usual HE is the Son of a Military Officer !

[@hamzamuzaffar4257]

Two Kingss! Lessgoo 🙏🏼👑❤

[@isbproductions5037]

The thing about LUMS is that country's greatest minds are put in a quality environment to have peak exposure with qualitative faculty so obviously the thing which makes it among top ranked University not just in Pakistan but in Asia. Otherwise the content of education is same in other universities but LUMS has everything that a university needs to have. But I still think Pakistan universities especially their syllabus and system management need to improve a lot and at a bigger scale, in the end it is universities and their products which makes a country.❤️

[@RFTOFFICIAL-0.5276]

What color is your bugatti?

[@hamzasaeed2741]

O and A levels are different because of schools grooming, and conceptual studies

[@erikachiba5438]

Can you make on nust as well plz

[@aminahshahid8878]

It's satisfying to know that a lums' student has studied the same courses which I being a sasti public university's student am studying while having to pay nothing literally 🤣

[@umernaeem2102]

Trust me just because the name of courses are same doesn't mean that every university has same teaching standards.

[@yawarjamal909]

Material is same everywhere, it’s the delivery that matters along with having curious minded peers and faculties that challenge you to deeply understand the content and build a stronger base/foundation that lasts forever.

[@Mahrooshay]

It's not about courses, quality matters a lot.

[@MMTV_2030]

@@yawarjamal909 💯💯💯

[@isbproductions5037]

The thing about LUMS is that country's greatest minds are put in a quality environment to have peak exposure with qualitative faculty so obviously the thing which makes it among top ranked University not just in Pakistan but in Asia. Otherwise the content of education is same in other universities but LUMS has everything that a university needs to have. But I still think Pakistan universities especially their syllabus and system management need to improve a lot and at a bigger scale, in the end it is universities and their products which makes a country.❤️

[@asimhaneef2276]

23:00 Burger lougo ki choti khushian, Fortnite dance par praise huye janab

[@MuhammadBilal-gf7ci]

it is w11 muzamil bhai.

[@funnyzilla4549]

The no of times he uses " HE NA " "HA NA"😆

[@sohaibshahid7796]

real talk at 31:00

[@ahrarnadeem206]

Muzamil bahi Big fan

[@fakhrazarin6986]

I do agree with him that Pakistani awam normally don't value empathise people and start abusing them instead of appreciating

[@aimanhasanx]

I'm pretty sure that conductor was not a karachiite. 😛 Real karachiites are very chill and pretty sophisticated.

[@Edgar10115]

Ahhh I can't understand Quantitative Research Method 😢 though am also studying this subject۔۔ so tough ufff

[@ahmedabbasi5691]

I love how Muzammil bhai is asking questions like he doesn't know you at all xD

[@SaimRehman]

HAHAHAHA

[@hamzasaeed2741]

Counseling in some cases

[@shahidrasoolpyami]

Title should be why lums graduate have superiority complex

[@itsQuark]

The problem in most of the academic practices in Pakistan is the low quality and intense amount of content being taught, and the way they deliver it in classroom. Not igniting the curiosity and interest of the learners. Generally the environments are threatening for students where students are afraid of achieving grades. More emphasis should on collaboration among students and letting them achieve success together, instead of individual grades!

[@nycto16]

I think we can't blame academic practices, it depends on person to person. I'm studying from a normal uni still I enjoy every moment of lectures and I love my curriculum and I've seen people from top unis using phones in their lectures or not even taking lectures properly. Basically, Pakistani young minds are too much in to games, movies, parties etc they are not motivated and passionate about education.

[@itsQuark]

@@nycto16 I disagree with your comments about the youth that they wasting their time in list you mentioned. I was sharing my first hand experience of studying in Pakistani Colleges & Universities. The emphasis in our academics is on the curriculum which is a combination of contradictions. Assessments process is also without any thought process. In fact the assessment process is the biggest contributor in the poor quality of public universities in particular. Private institutions are more open in adopting the innovations and pedagogical corrections. There are many other factors too which are making an impact. The younger generations are much more aware of these things and they can now clearly see the difference between the quality of teaching in their classrooms and the kind of material available on the internet where you have now a chance to learn from the faculty members of top universities online. Current quantum leaps in technology are probably going to help our students as well. The learning now accessible beyond geographical boundaries. Parents too are now well informed about the academic options available!

[@nycto16]

@@itsQuark I disagree about that universities thing, okay yeah I can't say about public unis, but private universities are actually good not only top like LUMS, NUST but even normal private universities are good enough. The point is Pakistani kids are into gaming, movies etc they have zero interest in learning, career goals etc. They doesn't care about learning they just want short cut in everything, they don't have any goals no motivation they only want movie nights, hang out with friends there's nothing called "productivity" in their dictionary and we can't blame universities for that!

[@nostalgiaevolution]

29:29 left lahore. Health is wealth. Covid capital of Pakistan.

[@ASh-pz2ic]

I'm a karachite .. you're right actually , we've gone through, listened and watched , unconventional, corrupt, a conflict sort of an era that we became impassive to the big things because our brought up was not as normal as person living in lahore, islamabad.. etc

[@MAmmarEditor]

❤️👌🙌

[@uzairarshad8541]

Bhai cbm me bhi yhi courses hyn

[@yesyou3306]

Cbm?

[@nycto16]

@@yesyou3306 College of Business Management... 2nd best business school in Karachi.

[@stateofvictory2779]

do this with a student of Atchison college student

[@zexploregalaxy]

Ye srif kehna KY baat koi alag nahi ha

[@abdullahmusic_]

the rap part in the end😭

[@hawk__]

You successfully created a not good image of Karachi in my mind, better Burger.

[@Foods-love-01]

Call adeel afzal in your show

[@swaytagawd3061]

Last min rap was faster then the rapgod 💀

[@hassanwynee]

8:26 😂👏

[@unknown29587]

Muzammil ❤️ Ye suit to mujhy day den

[@rabiyasohail7534]

No.. this is not normalized in Karachi. I heard this for the first time and weird. This is an issue..

[@hamzaateeq353]

A- levels is far better than FSC.. i studied both that is why i can tell a-levels s better system than INTER.

[@hammadjehangir4540]

Fsc is better in terms of syllabus while A levels is better in testing.

[@muhammadhuzaifa8260]

Agreed but can't understand why these FSC students performs well in Engineering..😒

[@subhanfarooq2242]

@@muhammadhuzaifa8260 waqai?

[@hammadjehangir4540]

@@muhammadhuzaifa8260 math ka ratta nai lag sakta that's why probably

[@hammadjehangir4540]

@@muhammadhuzaifa8260 i prepared my fsc sciences really well. I then proceeded to solve a few problems of A2 physics topical(just to see what it's like). It was ez peasy. A levels isn't at all difficult because most problems were surface level.