Why MAGIC PROS love CARD DRAW

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Commander Mechanic

Commander Mechanic

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@Teratologue
@Teratologue 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've been searching for this kind of content for years ! At last instead of going for rule of thumb numbers, I have the tools to analyse my deckbuilding. Feels to me that you should explain hypergeometric probabilities and how it should affect your deck building at some point.
@JervisGermane
@JervisGermane 2 жыл бұрын
3:07 "A card drawn is a card you can't draw again." Blue Sun's Zenith: "Hold my beer."
@evanjones3120
@evanjones3120 2 жыл бұрын
Mystic Sanctuary & Bounce Lands: "Hold my case"
@Attivian
@Attivian 2 жыл бұрын
I always feel that if you can't ramp or don't have as much access to ramp (like mono blue or red), add as much draw to balance it out so you're at least able to go through your deck as fast as possible and hit lands per turn.
@senyormort
@senyormort 2 жыл бұрын
I learnt the leason in the hard way. I upgraded my Yeva, Herald of Nature adding consistent draw; so the number of times I run out of gas has reduced dramatically. 9:31 you nailed with that expression, only now I see I used to play with a pile of cards :D
@waynefeller8824
@waynefeller8824 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is one of the hardest lesson for new players. I play a Rigo deck, and new players try to nerf my mana ramp, while the experienced players got after Rigo and my other draw engines.
@wifibum3904
@wifibum3904 2 жыл бұрын
I'm only hating on Rystic Study because I don't have one...
@Squee_666_9
@Squee_666_9 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right lol
@michaelsantangelo1875
@michaelsantangelo1875 2 жыл бұрын
I fealt the same. Then I bought it and smothering for my reaper king deck. I mean I love the now
@joebaumgart1146
@joebaumgart1146 2 жыл бұрын
We all have those cards in our lives.
@jasonmacaro4052
@jasonmacaro4052 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@zchadowhd
@zchadowhd 2 жыл бұрын
Same but i play blue in all my decks.. one wouldnt be enough for me
@marc0s158
@marc0s158 2 жыл бұрын
you have done so much to fix my deckbuilding, Thank you!!
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
it's what I built this channel for - you're very welcome!
@lucas2099
@lucas2099 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I also loved the purple mana.
@RaisingJackal
@RaisingJackal 2 жыл бұрын
Just upgraded one deck's card draw and it really does make a difference. Thanks for the tips.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure that’s what I’m here for!
@NotAllWhoWanderAreLost641
@NotAllWhoWanderAreLost641 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking about Rhystic Study. Insane it's legal. That tithe/dockside should go!
@InvisibleYogurt
@InvisibleYogurt 2 жыл бұрын
i put rhystic study in all of my blue decks just because I have so many copies of it from when it came out decades ago.
@JervisGermane
@JervisGermane 2 жыл бұрын
1:00 What's with the 6-color card backs? I'm new here. Is this a signature of theirs?
@Tera_GX
@Tera_GX 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, somehow I didn't manage to see that!
@axiswolfstar
@axiswolfstar 2 жыл бұрын
I also view ramp as a way to remove land from the deck. For example with land tax, I will constantly get more land then I can play and just discard the extra at the end. This lets me decrease the chance of seeing land on the draw.
@hermodnitter3902
@hermodnitter3902 2 жыл бұрын
Land Tax is a powerhouse for sure!
@f2p_felix
@f2p_felix 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to prefer the one-time draw effects over multi-turn ones the more aggressive a deck is, since it wants to end the game in fewer turns than others and gives you more cards up front. The more sustainable methods also often require being drawn early get the maximum value out of them, where was burst draw consistently gets you a certain amount no matter what turn you play them on. I also consider effects that dig you deeper in the deck to a usable card to be draw, even if it's not usually considered as such. Stuff like the Hideaway Lands or Turntimber Symbiosis. ...All that said, I always find it tough putting more than 8-10 card draw effects in my decks, since... often times I find myself having to take a turn off play those draw spells and not advance my game plan. These days, I just usually try to make do by layering it onto other aspects of the deck, like say on a Ramp Piece like Selvala, Heart of the Wilds. Maybe the solution is to just play cheaper draw spells, but I'm not always in colors that have such luxury on a card less than $50. So, I just try to include as many redundancies in the deck's other aspects as possible to make up for that. ...Am I crazy for doing so?
@ResidentSleepyJoe
@ResidentSleepyJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Love the vids bro! They've helped me reevaluate my decks to (Hopefully) perform much better!
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad they've been helpful! My mission is to help people enjoy this format, and to inspire people to think about WHY their decks might not be working
@brandonbethune4439
@brandonbethune4439 2 жыл бұрын
These are great insights. I'm super new to commander so these are spectacular videos.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
Be sure you subscribe for more, and check out the other videos in this series!
@LVMTG
@LVMTG 2 жыл бұрын
Card draw makes any deck fun to play. I need to have that jank in my hand to play that jank. Great video.
@mr.cynical2201
@mr.cynical2201 2 жыл бұрын
I see. Now I can use this knowledge to help me with color identities I don't build very well. I'm used to mono Black, Golgari, and Jund deck building, but all of them are just adding colors to make Black more consistent for my win conditions. Now I can venture out and explore deck building for mono Green, Gruul, and Naya. I've been struggling to understand why my previous patterns aren't working and I'm discovering I'm not grasping the fundamentals I instinctually used with my preferred colors.
@hanschristopherson8056
@hanschristopherson8056 2 жыл бұрын
I usually play green decks because your playing a lot of cheap ramp spells that cost three or less mana you usually want your card draw to fit into the four+ slot so that you can refill your hand
@michaelwilson3418
@michaelwilson3418 2 жыл бұрын
I got away from casual commander for a while in favor of cedh. Coming back to casual and applying my deck building basics from cedh have made my casual decks much more playable without being overwhelming.
@hermodnitter3902
@hermodnitter3902 2 жыл бұрын
The funnest thing in commander is to make really bad commanders some what playable. Like my Shauku Endbringer deck!
@wifibum3904
@wifibum3904 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck at your perspective FNM events tonight!
@DanKeller
@DanKeller 2 жыл бұрын
More cards = more decisions. Seems logical
@joshrobinson2409
@joshrobinson2409 2 жыл бұрын
I dont really need that much card draw in my deck, cause when I constantly place cards in my graveyard which is what my deck wants to do its pretty much like I am drawing a card as my graveyard is an extension of my hand
@abentevent
@abentevent 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice the purple mana sphere on the back of the cards in this video?
@NerdByAnyOtherName
@NerdByAnyOtherName 2 жыл бұрын
Another tip is that, in general, I've found you should prioritize "guaranteed" draw over "strong conditional" draw (I.e. stuff like Read the Bones or Harmonize over Grim Haruspex or Coastal Piracy). Stuff like a Shamanic Revelation or Pact of the Serpent is fantastic... until you topdeck it after a boardwipe and you have 2 other cards in hand, or you play an Esper Sentinel against a tribal deck and Nikya deck
@xxhellspawnedxx
@xxhellspawnedxx 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about that, I'll be honest. At the very least, you should have some persistent draw in your deck, but maybe you can mix it with a few one-time effects, but in my experience we're talking an advantage that is measured in thousands of games, if even that. Furthermore, most one-time draw effects are rather pricy for their effect, compared to keeping a persistent draw effect for a hand-full of turns. I feel like decks running nothing but one-time effects tend to stumble and fall flat on their faces more often than decks with majority persistent draw effects though. The few spellslinger decks I've built with a strong majority of the draw effects being instants and sorceries ran pretty much like shit, compared to their counterparts in my collection. They'd draw less than half of what my proper decks (using majority persistent draw) would. Now, it might be because I built them on a budget, IDK, but still, permanents trounces spells when it comes to recurring value, if simply for the reason that it costs you one card in hand to slap down a Phyrexian Arena that may very well last you for the entire game, whereas it will cost you 5-10 drawing spell cards to achieve them same amount of draw.
@bowgreii
@bowgreii 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I’ve definitely been neglecting the draw element of my Commander builds, and it shows. I have a Niv-Mizzet Reborn, which I think gets away with very little draw because it leans hard on the Commander’s EtB (which gets around draw disruption like Notion Thief and Narset, Parter of Veils). My Light-Paws similarly can skate on limited draw sources, because I’m tutoring out tons of auras. However, my Thrasta, Sarulf, and (embarrassingly) Orvar have all suffered from stall-outs, and it’s easy to see why when I look back at the lists. I tend to prefer permanents with draw effects, though for Sarulf specifically I made a point of loading up on one-shot draws; in order to get the most out of a repeating board wipe, I wanna make sure I’m scrubbing as little of my stuff as possible. Like you said, there is no hard and fast rule… but it’s critical that a deck’s allocating *enough* space for fundamentals like draw, however that’s accessed.
@OmegaMTG
@OmegaMTG 2 жыл бұрын
I always think my decks need more draw, even my Queza deck where I've drawn myself out before. You'll see it one of these Thursdays Chris if you haven't seen it already. I don't remember what deck I ran when we got to play.
@LordOfPais
@LordOfPais 2 жыл бұрын
"A card drawn is a card you can't draw again" Wheels: Allow us to introduce ourselves...
@JervisGermane
@JervisGermane 2 жыл бұрын
10:48 Are you kidding? After watching these kinds of videos for the last month, now every deck I build is repetitive. 34 lands, 1 commander, 5 board wipes, 10 draw, 10 ramp, 10 targeted removal, 30 cards on-theme. The only reason I don't have the same 69 cards out of 100 in every deck is commander-based color restrictions.
@nightingaleseraph
@nightingaleseraph 2 жыл бұрын
I want to agree with you on rhystic study, but as the game progresses it starts to lose power.
@joebaumgart1146
@joebaumgart1146 2 жыл бұрын
You sound like the jawn from Manalogs. Is that you?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what that is
@roguedrones
@roguedrones 2 жыл бұрын
this is a good simplification, however, it is not 1%. It's relative to the remaining cards in the library.
@DonRaynor
@DonRaynor 2 жыл бұрын
Play Izzet, use all wheels cards.
@Y0kAiS
@Y0kAiS 2 жыл бұрын
I love rhystic but 😂 at least make sure it has synergy with your commander(I have a queza deck)
@ricardbossle
@ricardbossle 2 жыл бұрын
Im not so sure Rystic Study should be banned, since you have the choice to give or not card advantage. The "Do you pay the one" problem was solved in our playgroup with "I will draw cards each magic you cast, unless you show you paid the tax". With this, there isnt one annoying person repeating the same sentence over and over, but players really thinking if they should pay the tax or not.
@djeemy
@djeemy 2 жыл бұрын
We are now at the thirsty thumbnail for Magic?
@Squee_666_9
@Squee_666_9 2 жыл бұрын
You got into it at the end but no card draw is not the most important it's the mana base that's most important. Spells can't be cast on time without enough of the right kinds of mana.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out my previous 2 videos - I cover land and ramp in much more detail
@drummerboy0511
@drummerboy0511 2 жыл бұрын
You know what's going to keep me from subscribing to the channel? Three separate audible/visual reminders to do so within the video. It's distracting. Once is enough. That said, the content of the video itself is extremely helpful, and I think I agree with your philosophy on Rhystic Study (though I admit I want one purely for the memes at this point).
@pauldyson8098
@pauldyson8098 2 жыл бұрын
#purplemana
@pandaman2234
@pandaman2234 2 жыл бұрын
Rhystic Study is hardly ban worthy. I mean we are talking about a format where Dark Ritual into Necropotence, draw 25 cards or more on turn one is possible
@Byakurenfan
@Byakurenfan 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a player who owns rhystic study.
@justinbowman1342
@justinbowman1342 2 жыл бұрын
So in other words they both need banned?
@anthonyconvery4331
@anthonyconvery4331 2 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing this, how is it good to draw 25 cards turn one when you only get one land drop? This is a sincere question, why would I want an insane amount of cards sooner than later when I can't fire em off?
@pandaman2234
@pandaman2234 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyconvery4331 because having a hand of the 7 best of the top 34 cards of your library on turn 2 is, in the vast majority of cases, going to be a lot stronger then your hand having only had access to the top 9 cards of your library on turn 2.
@anthonyconvery4331
@anthonyconvery4331 2 жыл бұрын
Oh okay, plus your already dropping another land by then and maybe an artifact... so your potentially using up some of the stuff by your next turn ... I'm getting it. Thanks for clarification, I just wasn't able to understand why I would lose so much coming out the gate but the argument is no let's control the randomness a little bit more.
@henlohenlo689
@henlohenlo689 Жыл бұрын
the only deck i use card draw in is combo deck along with tutors. like for example my painter servant and grind stone combo deck. that combo wins the game the rest of the deck is card draw tutors and counter spells. outside of combo decks i dont use card draw very much. card draw is strong against control decks weak against aggro. so if facing control deck u may need less removal and thus card draw helps u get ur combo sooner. the combo deck i use though gets combo onto field turn 4 or 5 or 6 relatively commonly so even vs aggro the card draw works.
@ryans.5843
@ryans.5843 2 жыл бұрын
It's not 1%, it's 1/cards in deck. So it starts with the first card you draw to begin the game 1.01%(1/99) and every card after that goes up in % from 1.01% to 100% at 1 card left in deck.
@TheSpiritombsableye
@TheSpiritombsableye 2 жыл бұрын
That ignores that you have an opening hand also though.
@felipefspb
@felipefspb 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the video overall, but I just can't agree with the assessment of Rhystic Study. I see rhystic study as a stax piece. Are Thalia guardian of thraben, Wrynn Wingmare or glowride banworthy cards?.. No! Because all they do is stax players a little bit. Why should Rhystic study be any different? It's never gonna hurt me if I pay the one. Rhystic is only a problem when players are not sensible enough to pay the one every time and thus turning RS into problem.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 жыл бұрын
It’s ok to view it as a stax piece but it’s not TREATED as a stax piece, and you can’t control how people in pods treat it. One person not paying is enough to turn it into a problem for everyone
@felipefspb
@felipefspb 2 жыл бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic I agree with you on that one! However, when I can...I try to politely convince the other players to pay for the tax as well. But I can see how it sometimes can spiral out of control if one player decides to start not paying for RS.
@liammanning8334
@liammanning8334 2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree about rhystic study. There are much worse problems tha good card draw....looking at tutors! I run about 10 rhystic studies in blue decks. And first hand can say the decks atill.feel.diverse Card draw is simply card draw. It is a way to play the part of your deck that is unique. Tutors are a much worse problem leading to boring repetitive gameplay.
@edjwise
@edjwise 2 жыл бұрын
ISWYDT
@ak2298
@ak2298 2 жыл бұрын
Just solid for putting a hot chick in the thumbnail ^^
@ginov.7039
@ginov.7039 2 жыл бұрын
I hate variance! Cuz Lady Luck hates my guts!
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