Why Maleficent WORKED Where Snow-white will FAIL

[@harrisonho8934]

To this day, the Maleficent films and Cinderella (2015) are my personal favorite live-action Disney films. I love the Maleficent films for not just flat out remaking Sleeping Beauty, but providing a new perspective on the villain's side and explained how she was. Cinderella was great because it understood the source material and changed just enough aspects of the story so that it wasn't a carbon copy of the 1950 original animated film, but kept the heart of the story so that we still recognized it as the same fairy tale we grew to love.

[@MichaelWitkowski-dq1nr]

I loved both Maleficent movies. Angelina was perfectly cast, and I did feel a tremendous amount of sympathy for the character, as would anyone who witnesses trust being violated to such an extent. She was strong, but also openly exposed a vulnerability, making her very believable - not like the phoney-@$$ boss babes Hollywood rams down our throat with regularity these days.

[@nicholasbalingit9049]

I agree. Both the live action Maleficent and Cinderella movies are my favorites of the live action Disney remakes.

[@Pinkyorkie13]

I loved the maleficent films too mainly bc it’s from the villains point of view for once, Disney films are almost always just the same story with different characters and slightly different cercomstansis (no idea how to spell that and auto correct failed me)

[@KillberZomL4D42494]

Cinderella (2015) is still one, if not, the best LA of Disney and Lily James is freaking beautiful.

[@ThatGalFromDominoes]

@KillberZomL4D42494 I agree. Rachel just isn’t the right role. I’m a Black girl and I am NO WHERE above racism. But they really should have gone with a white actor that isn’t ugly.

[@kevinemmers7025]

Maleficent wasn’t trying to push a political message. Its goal was to entertain, not “educate”.

[@motor4X4kombat]

Are you sure? Because even before the culture wars i though that movie made maleficent waaaaay to victimize and the bad guy waaayy too cartonisly evil (even down with having a shitty british acent) that feels more pandering than today standards. Just like in the joker movie they made the joker into an incel and the rich people into Michael moore characters. Sometimes the shit you love is just as guilty, if not more than the shit you hate. Next time you will tell me that the cinderella remake was well writtinen... and its not. Even if its before the culture wars

[@kevinemmers7025]

@@motor4X4kombat I was too narrowly focused on Disney’s current trend to race swap everything, noting they didn’t do that with Maleficent. But, you’re right. Your point is valid.

[@motor4X4kombat]

@@kevinemmers7025 and let me guess. Emma Watson as belle was amazing because "she is white"?

[@empanda.123o]

​@@motor4X4kombat na, the youtuber should've compared snow white with Cinderella, a real masterpiece.

[@motor4X4kombat]

@@empanda.123o masterpiece of disaster

[@carabingham3207]

Yes, whistle while you work has become “You do all the work While I prance around the place And cheerfully berate you to help you set the pace” Not at all like the original character and most people hate the changes made.

[@Leamichellefan2244]

That whole sequence is being torn apart and rightfully so everything from Rachel Rachel‘s condescending speaking voice to the fact that she’s turned snow white into an alto because she’s not as vocally, gifted as Adriana Caselotti and yes, I said it and no, I don’t care I mean, the whole thing is just abominable. Never mind the fact that they turned the port dwarf into idiots.

[@elindayana8174]

"Weird, weird". I hate this so much. This is a damn nightmare. A FREAKING MOVIE CRIME! How dare Disney treat the original masterpiece in such a CRUEL way by making this HEARTLESS remake trash of Snow White?! WHY?! 😭💔💢

[@ebonie_._]

I agree

[@lauren-d4j]

If I see Zegler’s homely face doing that “Weird, weird” clip again, I may scream

[@fsn1749]

yall are so weird towards this woman. its a fucking cartoon get a grip.

[@catch22ash]

​@@fsn1749actions have consequences is a lesson your Rachel Zegler must learn

[@void_serenade]

i think I've seen this comment on a different video before

[@cora.ann.s]

4:54 I'm sorry - but the princesses are diverse: their origins are from different countries (therefore different cultures) of Europe. Skin colour isn't the only thing that makes us diverse! You want to show people of different colour? Then do it with respect and search for stories in South America or Africa and so on and leave the European fairytales alone.

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

Next time you state that _Truth,_ don't start it with "I'm sorry"! Say that sh!t with your chest, because it's TRUE! We don't apologize for loving our Western heritage, or for our skin color.

[@abeleva_vera]

Именно! Мне так нравится, как защитники разнообразия видят всех европейцев просто как одну категорию белых. Вообще то принцессы из разных стран, с отличающейся культурой, историей, костюмами и внешностью! Я считаю, сваливать всех представителей разных национальностей в одну кучу под названием "белые" - это расизм

[@cefrinaldi8060]

Yes! Disney prove that they can make a story based on non european tales like moana and encanto that turn out to be massive success. Why they didnt do it again?

[@Charmyloves2draw]

@@abeleva_vera yea when there are few princesses of colour originally as well, tiana, mula, jasmine? like alll princesses are from different countries.

[@katokabi986]

Little mermaid too, I did like her in the live action but we literally have no ginger representation in the media.. And now the only princess who’s supposed be as white as snow.. They’re also making the same thing with how to train your dragon live action too. They’re Vikings! What makes me even more angry is the fact that people of color have so many amazing women, both historical and mythological. Like Amanirenas, the warrior Queen! If they want to create stories that actually represents a strong, independent poc woman, there’s tons of stories out there!

[@deepakk1347]

Snow “White”: “I don’t need a man!” The Prince: “That’s fine. I’m here for your stepmom.”

[@Megatron-xs2qe]

Maleficent worked because they told you right from the get go that “this wasn’t the story you knew” which was literally the first line in the movie.

[@scarletHerbst]

There wasn't a shred of the original Snow White's personality. Rachal is also the part of the problem of the movie's downfall

[@viviennemorgan7217]

there was but she made it all about snow white being a damsel who likes the prince like that girl ran away from her stepmother to live with the dwarfs.

[@ThatGalFromDominoes]

@viviennemorgan7217 At least Snow did what Cinderella didn’t. Besides that, she had a good reason to leave. Would you REALLY wanna be locked in your room for the rest of your life, just because she’s mad that you’re prettier than her? Rachel is nowhere as pretty as Gal. Gal is the EXACT OPPOSITE of Rachel. Gal is caring, kind, a good person. Rachel isn’t. Why don’t they just swap roles? Because Disney uses diversity as it’s “cash cow.”

[@viviennemorgan7217]

@@ThatGalFromDominoes well snow white was told to run to the forests by the huntsman all because the vain and wicked queen wants to get her own stepdaughter killed. While cinderella is ordered around by her stepfamily but you're right on rachel and gal trading places, i love her because she's pretty, caring and kind than rachel.

[@amiratazkia]

@@ThatGalFromDominoes gal gadot is a zionist who is pro genocide, she's anything but kind and caring

[@W-meme]

I didn't watch any movie with Rachel the Ogre in it even before this and wouldn't ever anyhow.

[@SleepyKwee]

Why Snow White will fail: •Awful CGI •Entitled actress •They didn't hire real dwarves •Changed the story •Disrespected the original story •Snow White isn't white •The costume and wig looks cheap •It's Disney 😂

[@Ainah-l2o]

Has Disney forgotten she's named Snow White because she's white as Snow? I know that's a metaphor but like the least they could do is cast someone who looks like Snow White 🤨

[@dragonsman4733]

​@@Ainah-l2o they didn't even have to do that either, they could've used makeup and it would've looked fine.

[@johnmm2i]

@@Ainah-l2o actually that was a simile but metaphor works

[@Ainah-l2o]

@@johnmm2i Oh mb 😭

[@habibasharawy1643]

Rachel is white though? Not pale/white enough sure but still white (what race did you think she was??)

[@ameliabond5244]

5:13 CORSETS AREN’T BAD the way you’re wearing them is. If you wear it with nothing between your skin and the corset, yeah it’s going to be uncomfortable, that’s what chemises and shifts are for! If you’re lacing it as tight as it will go, it will be uncomfortable. Corsets are to give the fashionable shape to a garment, not a size

[@NLS336]

The sad thing is there are dozens of fairy tales from diverse places that should naturally feature a diverse cast. But, not only did Disney not care to try for one of those, like Pixar's more recent successes, they also don't care to showcase actual diversity. see, e.g., the cgi dwarves.

[@Anisa_Hoxha]

snow white is description in the book is "She had skin as white as the fresly fallen snow, her lips were as red as blood her cheeks rosy red and her hair black as the wood on this window frame her eyes dark as the night in the sky "dark blue" i dont think rachel looks like that at all" Weird Weird Weird Weird

[@federicatrevisan3767]

Yep exactly, & you can only imagine what would have happened if the situation was the opposite: with a non-white character all the hell breaks loose, but never vice versa, if one doesn't want to be called bad names in this current "woke society" has to shut up...ah the hypocrisy!🙄 However, all in all I agree with the video, but sort of politely disagree about Zegler, her real life personality is ruining many of the characters she supposedly enjoy to portray on screen, particularly this 1. Also Halle Bailey had to face harsh criticism, even if it wasn't clearly her fault about TLM live action, but handled it with much more grace & dignity.💜👏 Of course after all the backlash, Disney forced Zegler to do some different kind of interviews, but she remains the same & is working to actively crash the Disney brand it seems...I mean, now - after all that pr stuff! - she should perfectly know what to expect, but regardless, even after seeing how bad this 1st SnowWhite trailer has been received, chosed to ignore it to celebrate its supposed great success & to link DIRECTLY to this comment another very political & divisive 1, even having on board an Israeli actress like co-star Gal Gadot, that left me speechless. It's totally unprofessional, never apologizing as well, & lest we forget, Gina Carano was fired for way less, double standards much?!🤦 That's why it's hard not to be biased against these live actions anymore, or to love her simply cuz she's a beautiful voice.🎶🍏💀

[@Anisa_Hoxha]

@@federicatrevisan3767 just know this what goes around comes around

[@federicatrevisan3767]

@@Anisa_Hoxha Amen, sooner or later it's inevitable I guess...😉👍

[@papercutsurvivor5395]

The weird spam at the end of your comment got me lmbo

[@vkiran3576]

It was her mother's wish when she was pregnant! Not a race thing or color thing! Why would they want to change that I'll never understand.

[@randomtrinkets7929]

I don't care about what Disney has put out since they cast Annabeth in the new Percy Jackson series as black. I'm a POC, and call me racist if you want but change the main characters to black is not progressive whatsoever.

[@AJGaming-wh8rf]

Even though I had no issue with Halle Bailey playing Ariel, I agree about Annabeth. That made no sense at all.

[@John-fk2ky]

@@AJGaming-wh8rf Ariel didn’t make any sense either (you live underwater; what’s encouraging melanin production?), and possibly less sense because unless you want to imply that Triton has had kids with quite a few women, his daughters should look at least vaguely like each other, yet they deliberately cast them as all different ethnicities.

[@yungzyzzle]

@@John-fk2kyMaking them different ethnicities made no sense either. Disney thought they were being inclusive but people just thought Triton got busy with a lot of ethnic women lmao.

[@AJGaming-wh8rf]

@@John-fk2ky Mermaids are fictional characters and do not exist. It does not matter what race a mythical creature is.

[@erikasanger7031]

@@AJGaming-wh8rfsame, i dont get why people who makes the live action wants to change everything of the physical description of some characters. like is there something wrong with how where they designed originally, are the physical traits the author gave them problematic for them to change it?.

[@ronjaravenbell9663]

She is the reson for it all. Never know when to shut upp. She is killing her careeer. Snow white is a timeless classic masterpece. Rachel is not snow white

[@mochijuice8074]

Ikr Even as an Asian, my skin resembles Snow White closer than her

[@Josh-Man]

Ginnifer Goodwin's Once Upon a Time's Snow White is more an accurate live action version we got! No one did it better than her. 😊

[@ronjaravenbell9663]

@@Josh-Man so agreed she respect her role and her coworkers. A lot seem to dont understand the issue with big mouth rachel.

[@sunnflare]

This. Snow is good and kind at *heart.* Deep down, Rachel is snide and sly. She had a big ego before and now she’s riding her high horse from Hunger Games 😒

[@ronjaravenbell9663]

@@sunnflare she is a spoild brat act like one.

[@Jay-fw6jo]

Mirror mirror was a better Snow White live action then this remake it’s going to bomb the box office.

[@martijnklaassen3536]

I loved Mirror Mirror. It is the remake Disney is failing to make

[@viviennemorgan7217]

i watched movies based on snow white, snow white and the three stooges and red shoes and the seven dwarves.

[@RairoFallen]

the other live action Snow White movies I’ve seen was Mirror mirror and Snow White and the huntsmen which were far better than whatever trash I just saw from that disrespectful piece Disney wants to put out

[@SleepyKwee]

I loved Mirror Mirror, it's a guilty pleasure for when I'm having a quiet night in ❤

[@elaineb7065]

@@RairoFallen I'm glad I have Snow White & The Huntsman on DVD now, instead of whatever this is, because YIKES

[@paintlightshine918]

Angelina managed to get her role done 10 times way better than any of the characters that are played by the actors in snow white..... actually scratch that there's BARELY any actors. At least the story change in maleficent made you want to know more about not just maleficent but the creatures in the film, also Angelina Jolie does justice in her role in the film. Gal Gadot makes no sense, and even worse seeing Rachel completely misses the root of the film being the very sprout where Disney flourished. Instead of dissing the film for its "outdated" story 🙄 (God she was such an idiot for saying this) why not work on the fact the character isn't asking for anything, but giving kindness all the way.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

rachel thinks that snow white is all about a guy who stalks her like girl it's about snow white and the seven dwarves for pete's sake not snow white and the prince if anyone does some sort of stalking is the evil queen.

[@GenJuhru]

And she imposes herself onto the dwarves home and made them do all the work, and that's what she refers to as _Leadership_

[@falcorim6136]

Maleficent and Alice in Wonderland were good adaptations to me, both heavily being inspired by old movies but with way different approach and perspective on the story, something that today's adaptations lack

[@Sarah_1155]

and the characters stayed the same with their believes and interests and so on Snow White does believe in true love and wants to find it but now they changed her whole character so that now all she wants is to be a leader and show that she needs no man that just shows that they didn't understand thw character at all

[@LillieWilliam]

Tha maleficent live action movies added a nice twist and depth to a character like an alternate reality to the classic sleeping beauty. The new Snow White is going to be a cgi horror movie

[@lafirecracker3249]

What I liked about Maleficent is that it didn’t claim to be a prequel or a remake. It was instead a reimagining of the story. A different adaptation of the story that existed for years. Sure it had some nods to the specific animated disney version but it was very clear that the story did not take place in the same timeline as sleeping beauty nor was it trying to tell that same story. It was it's own thing and different. And in my opinion, well done. Sure you may say it's 'the bad guy is the good guy' story but I think it did it well. And I liked the mother/daughter connection Maleficent had with Aurora which helped to heal her. It had passion, a new story to tell that made it worth being made, and was not just a cash grab.

[@bletheringfool]

Zegler IS the reason it is so off putting, her comments account for 90% of the backlash. People had the same beef with the little mermaid but the cast at least were more restrained. Saying she got caught in the crossfire is very dismissive. Her comments stung. She doesn't get off the hook. If she kept her mouth shut maybe more would be interested, The other 10% is Dinklage and his ego

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

Agreed, but I would argue that even if she had kept her mouth shut, the backlash to the trailer would have been just as vehement. They still refused _7_ dwarf actors jobs, and they _still_ turned a gentle, kind, humble, hardworking, feminine princess into a "Loud and Proud Progressive Girlboss". We could have seen that JUST from the trailer, where she's singing for the _dwarves_ to work while she does nothing. Zegler only spoiled how bad it was going to be a few months early. The way they're botching the film in the name of DEI is just as offputting without her.

[@jaanhavi0_0]

She sort of got herself into this. And Disney just never changes, the mouse only cares about how much money this stuff will make.

[@bletheringfool]

@jaanhavi0_0 actually I think they have lost the ability to make a profit with movies. It would have been VERY easy to make this work

[@dezs.5202]

@@bletheringfool Tbh I think it would have flopped no matter what. Even without all the weird changes, bad CGI, ugly costumes, and anything else worthy of backlash, it’s still just another remake. They’re getting so old by this point.

[@MagnaX-Games]

rather than change her race, better make another character.. just like spiderman peter parker and spiderman miles morales.. both could work and not change the character and the story.. disney can make another princess from many legends in asia, africa, and south america..

[@CaptainPikeachu]

Right, because we see how well treated Miles Morales was as if there still isn’t scores of folks screaming and making videos about how Miles Morales isn’t Spider-Man or whatever. Let’s not pretend that simply making another character solves the issue of people being racist. Hell, Marvel created Riri Williams as an Iron Man successor and she was a separate character and she still got hated on, again because she’s Black. Sam Wilson being a preexisting Black character still has legions of folks hating him being the new Captain America, to the point that Chris Evans had to come out and explicitly tell folks to settle down and that Sam is the new Captain America.

[@MagnaX-Games]

@@CaptainPikeachu well then maybe miles is just a example of good writing while riri is not

[@Mrs.ragnvindr31]

​@@CaptainPikeachu Idk about the Riri part but is she an actual Iron man successor as in she said it or people say it or she has it from Iron man? Or is she just a completely different superhero with an iron suit and people got mad because of that? Cuz saying she's the Iron Man SUCCESSOR is a big deal! Heck it's the same reason why people still don't like Sam Wilson as the "new" Captain America, to the people there's always one Iron Man and one Captain America, obviously they wouldn't take anyone else, they thought each of their closing arcs is already a good closing, let it rest! If they have the same "thing" as them but with different names, I'm sure they won't have a problem with it, like how people also like Miles (except for some other folks that don't get how each universe can definitely get a different spiderman beside Peter Parker) Beside those two is not the same as how remakes work, they're not a remake, they're a sequel, and most people don't want that

[@Lanas_bows]

The big reason is respecting the source material, the live action maleficent (sleeping beauty) and Cinderella worked bc they respected the source and wanted to re make it to appeal to modern day audiences while also showing respect and appreciation for the original which is what a remake should do, all tho remakes are usually quick lazy cash grabs the ones that do it with respect and appreciation for the OG always perform well with audiences, show white bashed the original and had no respect for the original and had this mindset that there version was “better”, the other too movies didn’t have this superiority complex about itself and respected the original while trying to make it more up to date with Modern audiences, show white just went around calling the og bad and stupid and that there’s was WAYY better (news flash it wasn’t) the first too show that remakes don’t have to just be lazy cash grabs trying to appeal to modern day audiences and can honour the original while creating a version fans of the original and modern day audiences can enjoy and that’s why it worked

[@lunaredgrave]

I don't get how the Prince was stalking Snow White anyway? The guy doesn't show up until the very end lol

[@Em_Elizabeth]

They have a brief encounter at the well and Snow runs away when she sees him then don't reunite until the end.

[@canibuyyou8524]

He kinda did, he climbed a wall to see her if I remember correctly. But it was supposed to be romantic and playful.

[@iagreewithyou3478]

​@@canibuyyou8524 lol that's not stalking. He wanted to see who was singing. And she was literally singing about wanting to be found by a man she loves that very day 😅. And later he was helping find the missing princess, which might also be politically motivated because she was the only royal heir left in that kingdom. He was the only one who didn't give up in finding her.

[@lizora3532]

I think it's not their first meeting that is creepy but when the prince in his 30s kissed a 14 year old who he thought was dead

[@Eni-Gxcha]

I know her dress looks exactly like the movie but PLEASE THE DRESS LOOKS SO BAD. There’s no thought put to it, shes supposed to be a princess and while her stepmother doesn’t let her wear expensive things, that dress looks like a costume 😭, give her something actually beautiful PLEASE DISNEY

[@LuvNikNac]

I agree, looks like a Halloween costume I picked out at 5😭

[@RKNancy]

It only costs a couple of thousand dollars to make an animated movie accurate dress. But somehow, the designers that Disney's been hiring now rely more on CGI to fix her dress rather than them designing the dress. Which is stupid to say the least. Who wants a fake princess dress on screen when people can perfectly emulate that in real life? Remember how hard Lily James had to work to carry that Cinderella dress? Sure, it set unrealistic standards but my god I loved Lily for making the impossible happen.

[@Eni-Gxcha]

@@RKNancy exactltyyyyy

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

I have been ranting about the differences between this Snow White and the 2017 Cinderella and Maleficent for days now, and my husband is so confused 😂 I'm like "JUST LOOK AT THIS CHEAP HALLOWEEN COSTUME OF A DRESS COMPARED TO THE GLORIOUS BREATHTAKING MAJESTY OF THE CINDERELLA DRESS! THIS IS A TRAVESTY" and he's just like "...okay honey. I love you!" 😂 And beyond just the costuming, you're 100% right: people LOVE and have always loved the Disney princesses for their inspirational, above-average virtuousness, kindness, patience, maturity, sweetness, and gentleness. The live action Cinderella and Maleficent are generally beloved because they maintained those traits in the princess. The live action Beauty and the Beast, Mulan, Aladdin, and now Snow White are generally laughed at and disliked because they took away _those specific characteristics,_ because being endlessly patient, kind, feminine, and HUMBLE is not "Progressive Girlboss" enough. And I say all that as a 24-year-old woman. I'm a girl who loves old-fashioned princesses and hates the new feminist ones.

[@Sarah_1155]

I actually quite liked the portrayals in Beauty and the Beast and Aladdin cause it didn't seem so different from the original in the core but Mulan and now Snow White is basically just a whole other story with other characters and there's nearly nothing they kept from the original If you make a live action remake of a movie then actually make that movie and not take the movie and then flip it and change everything until it's a different movie

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

@@Sarah_1155 - I agree with you on the second sentiment, about staying true to the original story. :) I have to disagree with you though on the live action remakes of BatB and Aladdin. I just did not see the same kind of virtuousness, kindness, grace, or selflessness. There were small moments of kindness from each of them, but their main character arc and _personality_ became "empowered, bold, take-no-sh!t girlboss". The song Speechless is a prime example. It's just unnecessary, IMO.

[@ubemischief]

she was SO PROUD of the views the trailer had gotten. what a clown.

[@GenJuhru]

..and snuck in "Free Palestine".

[@zoeyin2091]

Fr like wtf​@@GenJuhru

[@DovashiFuku]

@@GenJuhru Hahahaha

[@andersnielsen18]

Maleficent worked, because it was an actual reimagination of it, and not just a redo with the same name. The problem comes, when you want to make a live action movie of something, you give it the same name, so people will expect it to be the same, and then when its not, well, there's your problem.

[@nightfall3442]

Technically Alice and wonderland 2010 is using the same name but the actual context of it now then made it some weird sequel and wonderland is actually called underland?

[@Honestmairda]

2010-2015 Live Action Remakes: 👍😎 2026-2025 Live Action Remakes: 👎🙂‍↔️

[@0deadx21]

Are you implying _The Jungle Book_ and _Pete's Dragon_ are bad? Because they're not.

[@MDSpencersLs]

@@0deadx21those both were pretty good

[@nightwish1453]

Alice and wonderland hasn’t really aged well, it only managed to make a ton is because of the cgi looking pretty solid and it was right after the avatar film where audiences were much more enmersed with the cgi compared to stuff prior that had visual cgi issues or just the movie not being originally appealing to many

[@chantyxth6774]

if they cared about diversity so much they could’ve opted for casting an East Asian actress that would fit the descriptions of Snow White??

[@mtoffo2275]

I have to say I didn't like Maleficent either. It popularized the "bad guy is just a misunderstood victim" trend. However I will say that, being now an old-ish movie, it doesn't partake in today's odious trends of subverting everything for brownie points

[@jaanhavi0_0]

The trend is fine but using it your every single movie makes it boring and repetitive.

[@ukiyo-e_inyo]

@mtoffo2275 Every bad guy or villain is always the victim of something they don't just turn or become evil for no reason

[@Anika9884]

​@@ukiyo-e_inyo No ... some villains are born evil

[@bpop9394]

​@@Anika9884 That logic applies best to silly cartoons

[@williamhanekom9882]

I always think back to that cancelled CGI seven dwarves prequel film that never came to be; back when they were needlessly chugging out straight to DVD films. It was apparently meant to show how the dwarves met and how the queen took over from Snow White's Father. Say what you will, but that sounded a lot more interesting than what the current remake's offering.

[@clarkraivencandelaria934]

What I like about maleficent is that when aurora was cursed maleficent is the one who kissed her and broke her curse not some prince charming who just came out of nowhere and is forced to become the love interest of the heroin, no it doesn't work like that as What Elsa from frozen is trying to point out. The curse broke because maleficent grew attachment and love to aurora that's what freed her from the curse, you don't need a prince charming guy's kiss and call it true love.

[@nightwish1453]

Think the problem was that it literally came out after frozen and most of it was the same, and because how big that movie was it would be hard for anyone to not notice

[@mad_quack]

I always forget that maleficent is a remake of sleeping beauty. The movie just stands well on its own two feet.

[@deepakk1347]

In this adaptation of Snow White. Snow White meets a different race of people and treats them like slaves. How....progressive.

[@noname768397]

I was kinda skeptical before watching Maleficent, but I kinda like seeing her when aurora was born, and her taking care of her better than anybody else motivated by pure spite, And then that "you're my fairy godmother" scene just melt my heart man

[@reginielvincentyuson8250]

Maleficent: 1. best actress 2. Actress loved the character 3. Actress loved the storyline 4. The movie answers all our questions why.

[@danielbradley88]

The biggest issue is the stories are based off of Grims fairytales, which are based on real legends from other countries

[@cowetascore8476]

Disney had the idea to take their animated features and build on them. Most of the early films were tweaked with new ideas. Cinderella, Christopher Robin, Malicifient, Pete's Dragon. Then they got complacent and lazy and started copying them beat for beat. That's why they fail.

[@jessilynallendilla5433]

snow white in the classic movie was like 14 just ran through the forest terrified for her life all night then came across a cottage she thought children lived in saw how dirty it was and cleaned it for them then when she found out it was seven grown dwarves and the dwarves found out she was on the run from the queen they al agreed she could have shelter and protection in exchange for cooking and cleaning and they all grew to care for each other those that actually watched snow white and put it into historical context will see that it's actually progressive and timeless not "weird weird" the modern badass I don't need a man to save me all girls should reject pink and feminine things is way past tired and is obnoxious there's nothing wrong with being feminine nice wanting a man or liking housework let this be a lesson hollywood don't let your lead actor shit talk the beloved original

[@PleaseBringTide]

Honestly even if you do start wanting to see the new Snow White you’d be dismayed from how much the main actor and story direction down on the original, its like they’re embarrassed of their own source material

[@smalls9852]

I'm so glad you brough up some of the other adaptations of Snow White. Disney loves to act like there aren't already better adaptations and these live action monstrosities are all we get to have. This was a story they could have expanded upon instead of destroying.

[@fernandobignardi6716]

If i may share something about the original Snow white, I have always considered it a very mid story movie ever since i watched it as a child, with a very simple and straight forward story. (WAIT HOLD YOUR TORCHES) Then i rewatched a few weeks ago and understood why this movie was so FUCKING GOOD. The animation team worked very hard and it shows, I honestly felt like Ego, eatting the main dish from ratatouie, when watching it. It hit home in all the scenes that are doing story building, even the dwarfs washing up.

[@nightwish1453]

Old Disney were more emotionally driven where the logic is taken more of a backseat, it’s only later in years the logic became more and more prominent. The themes and alterations of the movie do stick out to you when viewing as an adult from my experience even things are interpreted differently like the forest scene

[@CupofLoffee]

They chose the best actress for aurora , she’s so fricking adorable and kind ,positive and she LOOKS like aurora

[@Myrcella_Rykker]

Wow, with all this mess with the new Disney "Snow White" movie I totally forgot about Once Upon a Time. I really need to rewatch that series. And now that I'm thinking about it the movie Ever After (a Cinderella inspired tale). Don't need this new train wreck. What you reminded me of should last me a few months of viewing pleasure

[@sakunaruful]

Ever After is the best non Disney Cinderella movie.

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

Indeed! I just rewatched the first 3 seasons recently, and it was so fresh in my mind how WELL they did Snow White. And Ever After is also a gem. Enjoy!

[@zun-viik]

6:15 No, the things someone says, how they say them, and the actions they perform are pretty good indicators on whether I can or can not dislike them.

[@scenesandstructures]

@@zun-viik I just want to clear out that I agree, not liking someone is okay, more than fine. I personally don't like Rachel either (as I've said because of disrespect) , but the cancel culture thing that is followed by the hate is something I do not support , because it always becomes something so much bigger (people sending them death treats...) you know... That kind of HATE

[@JoeOvercoat]

@@scenesandstructures Hate is a burden. She deserves to be disliked. Our culture is not good at differentiating those things. I suggest she has not received nearly as much hate, as being disliked. Except her outfits: those i really hate. I cannot be the only one. :P

[@alexat.4527]

I don’t think the “they were white in the original” matters. For Snow White specifically, It can still be a very light skinned actress of any ethnicity and it still sort of makes sense if you think of the name as a metaphor. As a light skinned Latina family and friends always remind me that I’m light skinned , and that’s fine. That’s just stating facts. It could be the same with her. “Snow White” not in a literal sense but in a metaphorical one. Race doesn’t REALLY have to play a part in why it won’t work. The problem really relies in the utter disregard and disrespect that Disney has for its audience and it’s stories. There isn’t any nuanced to the storytelling or apparently anything salvageable that appears to improve, not in the filmmaking, or the story or the casting. They want to make her have a new race/ethnicity, good, fine, as long as she can play the part and treats the character she is playing with respect. You want to hate on the story and character you are portraying, then go play something else and stop bothering the people that love them as they are.

[@Em_Elizabeth]

Like white symbolizing being pure of heart or something

[@viviennemorgan7217]

rachel zegler should have watched the movie it's about snow white and the seven dwarves not about snow white and the prince if anyone does any stalking around here is the evil queen she looks into her magic mirror everyday trying to kill her stepdaughter.

[@viviennemorgan7217]

like give up zegler.

[@aviramdj]

Boy "don't worry snow il will face the evil queen and save you." Boy then meets queen "damnnnnn"

[@christopherkim7549]

I don't know. Did Disney tell Rachel Zegler to say the prince of the original film was a "stalker"? Or that new film not being about love is "wonderful?

[@ReabetsweMorake-go4cg]

Mirror mirror & Snow-white & the Huntsman were interesting takes on the fairytale that stayed to the character of Snow-white as a caring, a lovable compassionate princesse who overcomes beautiful but cruel queen.

[@myu-chan7472]

1:22 i'm sorry but i know some women that still likes those old values and doesn't feel bothered by the original snow white or any of the classics, not everyone changed their values with time, most probably did but not everyone, some people still like the classics and their values of love, nurture, purity, elegance and care... it still align with MY values and even the values of my husband

[@scenesandstructures]

I did not say at any point that these values are outdated, nor do I believe that I just said the majority felt like that with the rise of feminism at that time And if anything, people are coming back to these values because being nice, kind and loving is always respectable

[@myu-chan7472]

@@scenesandstructures thanks for clarifying! that wasn't an attack against you

[@tim92019]

people also Hate Rachel Zegler for what she had said about Gal Gadot

[@adlan_kacak]

MALELIFENT - there is some changes & additional parts in order to make the storyline become more interesting & becoming something different (in a positive way) SNOW WHITE - straight up re-write everything from top to bottom so it is going to be 'something new' or 'something different' just for the sake of 'things has change'

[@ydcjydcj1724]

Maleficent is ironically a mother's day movie

[@milo_thatch_incarnate]

_Totally agree_ about OUAT getting Snow White RIGHT! I was just rewatching the first 3 seasons recently, and was struck by how well they wrote each character in that show. Super slept-on!

[@osmanyousif7849]

Was Maleficent (2014) perfect? No. The movie deviated a lot from the original 1959 animated film, in regards to its plot. And I’m personally mixed about how well the creators succeeded at doing so. But just like many others here, I actually think Aurora in this remake/retelling (in terms of her disposition), was well done. But that’s mostly due to Elle Fanning‘s performance. Her portrayal of Aurora is far more in line with the character in the 1959 animated movie, really tapping into the more playful and carefree demeanor of Aurora, who dreams of finding more outside of her world with her “three aunts” at the cottage. For 16 years, you could see how she’s really trying to make human interactions, despite feeling almost impossible. Even when she first meets Philip, who is the most normal human being to her, it’s really hard for her to connect, since most of her friends are animals or mythical beings. Despite the many changes to the plot of the original as well as several changes to characters that I feel like just didn’t work, it’s quite surprising to see how faithful and on-point the portrayal of Aurora was. It’s just a real shame that this portrayal had to be in a pretty mediocre retelling of the original story. But regardless, this is something that I think really needs to be addressed more when doing any type of adaptation, continuation, or retelling of an established IP. I can’t tell you much media I have read, watched, or played, where the creators behind it, takes so much from the original source material, but don’t seem to understand why certain elements were established to begin with, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO CHARACTER. Character is story. Even in fairytales, while the plot is driven by some magical conflict or evil power trying to take over entire kingdom. The story is about the main character’s journey and how will they reach their dreams or wants. Therefore, by shifting the characterization found in the original source, you literally suck out the entire story. You CANNOT change character, yet keep the same events of the plot, and expect the story to remain coherent. And that’s the problem with a lot of these Disney live action adaptations.

[@ognenni]

1:52 but Frozen and Rapunzel were great films, weren't they?

[@_Lupical]

once upon a time's snow white is so amazingly well done, they managed to make her this strong warrior, and inspiring leader they needed her to be for the their story. but they also kept values like hope, love, copassion and most of all family that are inate in her character.

[@GrumpCatMara]

I feel like “Maleficent” worked because the purpose of the movie was to answer the question “why did she do it?” it gives us a dive into Maleficent as a character, to help us understand her motivations. When they reached the point where they HAD to change the story to fit their narrative, they did it in interesting ways, that kept us guessing and wanting to know more about to these characters and lives. I cannot find a single purpose or interest for the new Snow White. They want her character to be renovated into this new powerhouse of what really feels like propaganda. But if you have to completely gut the character to accomplish that, then you’ve completely ruined the character, and the story in the process.

[@roseatkinson3508]

So true. Disney needs to do better. I love the original Sleeping Beauty and I couldn't wait for the live version and I wasn't disappointed. I didn't bother to look at the The Mermaid movie because I didn't really like the changes. Disney was something I always looked forward to and I guess I'm just old. I want them to get with the program and stop all of these changes. They are trying to destroy Disney.

[@nightwish1453]

Tbf any remake from beauty and the beast and after have actually made less and less changes other then unnecessary added exposition and additional story arcs that don’t go anywhere they retain what people remembered the original movies but without the context which ends up weaker even the direction for the actors besides fair few actors and scenes are likely told “act like the original by memory”. Maleficent made more changes but it was clearly in the “reimagining” direction, doesn’t stop Disney or anyone shoving it in the live action umbrella which is already illogical when you have the lion king remake being purely a cg movie

[@DawadsonJohn-ef2cw]

Mirror mirror on the wall,why am I not so fair anymore?

[@rufusmcgee4383]

The first Snow White worked because she demonstrated an inner beauty we could all aspire to. You know she would give her all to help someone in need just because she felt it was the right thing to do, contrasted with the selfish, vain, evil Queen. The second Snow White is the kind of person you could see easily stabbing you in the back in order to ensure she got what she thought what she deserved. In other words, there is very little discernible difference between the new Snow White and the Queen, except the Queen is hot and Snow looks like one of those man-haters you are afraid to even look at because she'll start shrieking about something or other she doesn't like about you.

[@ebonypegasus9864]

Maleficent didn't try to re make the cartoon, it created a whole different perspective of the same basic story.

[@Catsclaw-ru6zw]

Thanks for bringing up Mirror Mirror & especially Once Upon A Time Ginnifer's Snow was different I like how she & Prince Charming were too crazy about each other at first. But the more they interacted with each other the more their feelings for each other grew Ginnifer's Snow still remained kind, brave, courageous, gentle, sweet & endearing. In the flashbacks we watched her grow to become more of a leader along with her prince by her side both brought the best in each other.

[@oleggeraschenko4932]

I was already angry with Maleficent because they remade the three fairies we loved in the original into three hideous idiots. You don't do that to characters we love

[@MNFahmiHazizi]

The only thing I particularly don't like about Maleficent is the 3 fairies. Their ages are backwards, the green one (classic cartoon named her fauna) should be the oldest and calmest and blue one (named Merryweather in classic) should be the youngest. But the story is very good, loves it!! Also, we should add Snow White and the Huntsman into the topic too. It is very well made, with lots of new twists and it also foretells the story behind Ravenna the Evil Queen motives.

[@nightwish1453]

Honestly thought flora was the oldest, mainly in her being the leader and the one making the ideas and decisions

[@kessku1484]

RZ will end up as a case study on how Studios can crumble based on not knowing their audience. RZ will be black listed if not already. Great cautionary tale for other actors. 😂😂

[@amelialoyselle2123]

What gets me is that they could've checked their diversity box off if they gave Snow White to a pale-skinned Asian actress that still fit the white skin/black hair/red lips bit. But in Hollywood often Asian is still seen as "white" so ofc they didn't go for that.

[@Nat-imstillhere]

At least the comment section is saving snow white with there re make of the movie😌

[@celtaxe8147]

I like the idea of live action and not making it 100% the same as the original. I would love to know more about the evil queen and her backstory because it would be interesting for er to have another ending instead of her falling off a cliff. However, I looove the original animation and it sucks to hear her talk about the original like that to make the live action more interesting/better.

[@Novus-music]

Sometimes a live action version of the movie isn't needed, this is one prime example of that

[@exosproudmamabear558]

None of the fantasy animations needs live action. Animation is a superior medium for fantasy due to cgi being still too expensive so it makes producers cut corners. You dont need that for animations.

[@Tamwyn107]

What no one mentions: Snow White as fairytale has modern elements, but modern Disney just has no clue about the meaning and background of this fairytale. This “Stalking” - love on first sight- is an ideal from medival romanticism, a time where royals couldn’t decide whom they marry. So a love marriage is the heavily ever after, instead of a marriage with someone you don’t like. Also Romanticism at that time is about truewe - something like fidelity BUT to the hearts, not to the body. (Infact it’s ok to have sex with other in marriage, think about Arthur-Gwen- Lancelot) So when knights went on Aventüres (Adventures) they did it to become worthy to the Ladies. When the prince follows her and also has his adventure finding her, he proofs that he’s is loyal to her AND that he’s worthy. The last aspect is for us something very modern: Two equal partners. Snow White herself goes on an adventure not just to get more mature, but also to take her own life in her hands. This adventure, a male element, emancipates her, even when she is cleaning afterwards. But also that… I mean 1. It’s on a free basis 2. This “Angle of the house” ideal, the women is taking care of the men and the house, is not for filled because she is also singing of her feelings. Also that is a classical emancipation even thought the song is about her prince. Snow White is everything, an ideal for people because she embodies beauty, as resemblance of her inner beauty and purity (not in a sexual way but in purity of her heart), intelligence, empowerment etc.

[@DJOctobot]

The snow brown movie isnt even out yet and we know it will fail. Hence the title

[@calebdecamp2427]

The white woman is not brown lol 😂 that’s a white woman with a tan. Clearly Southern European

[@OpticalSorcerer]

Honestly I hated how "Maleficent" villainized Stefan, took away the fairies and Phillip's heroics, killed Leah, and added NOTHING for Aurora. I don't mind Maleficent being sympathetic, but they shouldn't have made everyone else suffer for it.

[@b.m.t.h.3961]

The new SW makes a point that a princess shouldn't need saving by a prince. Well, actually, whats so wrong with that? I think its great!

[@therra1101]

I loved Belle´s dress? Why do people say it was so bad just because she wasn´t wearing a corset?

[@Centre0216]

Probably because the Fanning never went out of her way to anger the potential audience.

[@hurricane31415]

Modern audience doesn't exit. The systematic failure of every product targeting it proves it.

[@-l-2865]

The thing that I hate about live actions is that they set them in a real life place. The edge of Cinderella and Maleficent was that the place they are set in are entirely fictional, not just the stories. This allows them the creativity and freedom from the bounds of real life costuming. The costumes don’t have to reflect the era it is currently happening in or with the clothing the country where the story is taking place. Cinderella 2015, particularly the ball scene, showcased this with the various dresses reflecting differently eras in the real world, and ditching the concept of establishing a certain fashion and aesthetic for all the people in the story. In Maleficent, they were able to establish a certain aesthetic for the story. Of course there still fashion influences from certain periods in time in the real world however, they were able to make it look interesting with the actual fantasy costuming. They nailed the fantasy element of storytelling through costuming. Js

[@StairShaper]

They should change the name to Evil Queen and make her the hero

[@rosiemo4438]

The best way to get Disney to stop making these regurgitated live actions is to stop going to the movies to watch them. Simple.

[@JoeOvercoat]

All hail Gal Godot. 🥰

[@ggt47]

Well, I'm not sure if Maleficent did Aurora's character justice. She was just sort of there.

[@asmrallison]

"Worked" is a strong word but it wasn't the worst

[@deepakk1347]

I started hated this remake because the Snow white isn't more beautiful than the stepmother. But now with all these i will bycott it.

[@tannerbancroft1402]

I think for me it was more also "Let us tell an old story anew. " This set up in my mind they were putting a new spin on the story.

[@carrisebear3499]

When a young girl is being hunted by an assassin sent by a queen (a queen that abuses her and uses black magic) she needs the protection from 7 strong men. Yes she should clean the house (it’s that or sex). She needs to be useful and earn her keep. These guys are harboring a wanted girl. Disney needs to examine the story in that way. She also desperately wants to be loved. That’s why she clings to the animals. So of course she would fall in love with a prince. She needs help. This is not a girl boss story. The dress should have been toned down. It looks like a Halloween costume that takes me out of the story. And basically everything else in the story takes me out of the story.

[@jovimathews]

❤ Gal Gadot look gorgeous! Disney should also include diversity in 'Mulan' and negotiate with Rachel Zegler! ❤

[@One1nfinity1]

I love how adults complain to a movie for kids.

[@Enola_Evil]

What I would be so happy to see is Princess Elena portrayed in a movie format, like Zeglar would be great as Elena in a live action film and Elena deserves a feature film she’s a great character and is Latina Disney ZEGLAR AS ELENA NOT AS SNOW WHITE!!!!!!

[@JustSoph28]

I quite liked Mirror Mirror, as it did portray the characters in a more real way and more true to the original, although i havent seen it in years. Ive also seen some other people using Snow white and the Huntsman as a good example of how to make Snow a strong character, make her into "the leader she was meant to be" and whatnot and give her something more than a love story, but also keeping her kind and keeping some of her original traits, that make her who she is.

[@nameerav.g1395]

I honestly thought that this movie was cancelled

[@jordanshepard8919]

Maleficent told the story from a different perspective without trashing the original. It gives "you're either a hero or a villian depending on who is telling the story", whereas Snow White is uh...well, whatever it is.

[@2301WAYNE]

The funny thing is almost nobody talked about when Maleficent succeeded but everyone was gonna yell how much they are gonna hate Snow White, just shows people love to talk about others failures than one's success. Since even with Maleficent I remember audience and critics talked or created false things about what it lacked when the axct same thing in other movies were prasied instead.

[@aoifecorbett-yx9jx]

Apparently being in love makes you weak according to them

[@CensorshipVictim]

Its because the actors in Maleficent didn't bash the movie, the characters, and the story the entire time. I don't care who plays what in these movies, but when the actors hate everything about the story and characters, it kind of ruins it.

[@BlackCatFilmProductions]

Aside from Disney a lot of studios are trying to re write history like in the Bridgertons they don't focus on the period but trying to make it an alternate reality.

[@KARMAISABITCHouch]

Poor girl, the poor parenting and her personality had no idea of the magnitude of this destruction.

[@mocchikkidraws]

The fact Disney dont accept workers who smoke or do something bad ( i heard someone said this to me not sure if it's true or not) but accept actors who goes off hinge gives an ick to me.

[@TheMentalCrisis-w5p]

The Maleficent movies don’t feel like a live action Sleeping Beauty. They feel like a movie of their own, keeping to the guidelines and just making it slightly different. Like Turing Maleficent’s crow to Diaval, and things like such. Though of course, the king’s character was way different than the original’s, but even then, it feels like it’s own movie so I kinda prefer it that way.