8 Failed Fantasy Franchises & What Happened To Them

[@karstenvoigt7280]

Percy Jackson (together with Troy) taught me one thing: Sean Bean doesn't die, when he's playing someone Greek.

[@matsudoambition2509]

Or goes to an horror location like silent hill XD

[@Craamron]

It sounds like you need to watch the epitome of Sean Bean, Sharpe.

[@NIDELLANEUM]

Still think it would have been epic if they made a Troy sequel and adapted the Odyssey, especially when "Sean Bean always dies" was at its height

[@karstenvoigt7280]

@@Craamron I have. And I thought to myself: "Yep. I always knew, that the guy with the mop in Sting's club would make his way.".

[@karstenvoigt7280]

@@NIDELLANEUM And just imagine a surreal scene, when Odysseus visits the Hades - and (as an easter egg) walks through the ghosts of all the characters, Bean had played before and who had died.

[@gravityfalls1826]

One problem with Miss Peregrine's, is that the film changed a lot of the plot points, included 2 characters that arent in the books, and changed the characters ages and powers.

[@eglop5841]

For no reason at all too. Directors need to either start respecting the material they adapt or make their own shit up.

[@littleseaslug1440]

They also got rid of jacob’s jewish background, when his grandfather’s family were killed in the holocaust. This got a lot of attention at the time bc tim burton’s comments about having a certain “aesthetic” to his films/his antiblackness had been a hot topic. Sadly it seems jewish/roma erasure is the norm now with the MCU whitewashing characters like wanda and wiccan

[@eglop5841]

@@littleseaslug1440 absolutely tragic

[@Thurgosh_OG]

@@littleseaslug1440 Wanda Maximoff is played by a white actress and has always been white in the comics. Also Wiccan (William "Billy" Kaplan-Altman) has always been white in the comics (I can't find him in any film), how can you call those whitewashing? or do you even know what the term means?

[@devanman7920]

Miss Peregrine I always thought would be home run for a successful film run but like you said the changes were weird, the biggest hurdle for these films is the ego of the writers, same as successful shows i.e Witcher.

[@baileyv398]

Very proud to be 1 of the 3 Inkheart fans watching!

[@therandomshow_]

Hey 👋 me too! 😂

[@Alex13501]

Inkheart is quite fire, at first i didnt like it, but the books really grew on me!

[@Blackroseofplue]

Me too❤

[@ramenwolf13]

Wow, I get to see all three convene!! congrats guys :D

[@RPumpkinQueen]

seeing the comments that makes me number 4 🥰

[@animefancss]

I thought "A Series of Unfortunate Events" movie wasn’t planned to be a series because ,for me, it had a good, satisfying ending.

[@LunaticKD1991]

I wish it had been a series. I liked the movie and I liked the cast better than the Netflix series.

[@kaleemarie13]

I absolutely fell in love with the movie after reading all of the books so I was a little bummed they didn't continue but it still was a really good stand alone film

[@yourstruly9013]

Percy Jackson taught me that Hollywood can destroy your beloved books at a young age

[@technoraize2715]

That and don't get your hopes up when they try and make a TV Version of your favorite book series...they either cut off a lot of the plots, add in new characters/change the characters og personalities, and just straight up ruining the plot of what was supposed to be in the book...

[@yohanesdanisaputrasantoso8246]

😂😂😂😂, it's hit hard, for diversity and for "modern audiences" sake,

[@moonsigil]

it ruins your beloved video games too 🥲

[@teganwoods4184]

​@technoraize2715 Rick Riordan is actively working on the series. He's made changes because he had things he *wanted done differently*. You don't have to like it, but don't blame the differences on anybody or anything. The Author has given it his seal of approval.

[@chasesmith7495]

@@teganwoods4184 the author is a fantasy writer and doesn't know how film/tv directing works... he may have decided to change somethings ab the show idk but if your doing a tv show and there has already been 2 movies, a videogame, and 3 different series (Percy Jackson and the Olympians, heroes of Olympus, and trials of apollo im not sure if Percy Jackson is in the magnus chase series i haven't read those) but 15 books weve had to understand these characters and all of a sudden he decides to make a change... idc if it has the authors seal of approval or not you cant create 15 books and then make a change like that

[@cameronayers2414]

Spoiler Alert: Clary and Jace aren't actually siblings. Valentine lies to cause trouble. It's revealed in later books in the series. Still a kinda weird plot device though.

[@blackmuzicluver35]

Another spoiler: Even weirder is when her actual brother shows up and..yeah...

[@ispeakcockney]

That plot is the only thing I dislike about the books. I would like for Valentine to be the stepdad of Clary instead of a biological father. Valentine kidnapped Jace to be his son. Before that, Clary's mom already has a son named Jonathan (not with Valentine). Valentine experimented with angel's blood using unborn Clary and Jace and demon's blood using unborn Jonathan.

[@anon2427]

That’s just a retcon though

[@philritter9042]

@@blackmuzicluver35and Jonathan was a real piece of work was never so easy to hate a character this much especially when he just goes and kills a random child we all liked for no real reason other than fuck em

[@birte5675]

Fun fact this siblings plot point is from real far back when the mortal instruments was just a ginny/ron fic so I heard

[@joshchavez8190]

Wish you had covered “I am number 4” or whatever that series was called

[@viddog6457]

Loved that book series, my main gripe with the movie was the inconsistency with Six. She had super speed in the movie instead of invisibility. You can’t make a major change like that and expect more movies.

[@jorimccall]

lorien legacies!

[@nadstengco2591]

I'm about to comment this one 😅

[@marocat4749]

its scifi thou

[@Vlado.S41]

My favourite!

[@류혜나-q7v]

I remember being SO mad at the Percy Jackson movies as a kid. The new series has really healed that part of my inner child lol

[@clairel33]

Is the new series good? I've been really irked at the political correctness casting

[@littlewriterboy]

@@clairel33rick cast the show based on acting ability and their portrayls of the characters rather than their looks, there’s no “political correctness”

[@HopesBoomerang]

​​@@littlewriterboy Call it what you want but as a PoC race bending always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It's a very lazy attempt at diversity. To the point where I'd rather have none.

[@luzllytohi]

I didn’t like it to be honest. Lots of the challenges faced in the books felt like they were just skimmed over or changed in unnecessary ways that undermined their values within the books. Also, it felt at times that Annabeth was providing exposition and talking to the audience. Like I get she’s meant to be the wise one, but it just felt like a cheap way to lore drop when she’d just casually drop the information on the characters and the audience. The main time I remember this happening was regarding to Lotus Casino, but I don’t remember the specifics as it has been a bit since I’ve watched it. The show started off pretty strong in the first few episodes but towards the end it felt rushed to me. Like when in an exam, the first few pages are strong and quality, but by the end you’ve realised you’ve got such little time and so many left to complete and just speed through it to at least get some points.

[@dopeentertainment8924]

Eragon deserved better 😭

[@nikkydalby7126]

I’m really hoping the show can do it justice 😅🤞🏻

[@pranavprasad8793]

​@@nikkydalby7126 my only gripe is that, it's being made by Disney, I'd rather it be on Hulu or people at Hulu look after it, they seem to have a better track record than Disney+.

[@aryakatya27]

@@nikkydalby7126 same here

[@davidkrivanka]

​​@@nikkydalby7126 Yeah, I love Eragon.. I've read Eragon in my native language (czech) and English too many times over. It was my first book series and it's what made me fall in love with books and fantasy.. I'd give everything to see Eragon done well and I hope the show will be good

[@golden_ranger_solaris]

​@@nikkydalby7126 show? You have my attention

[@CGFillertext]

The fact that they changed/had to change the villain for the Miss Peregrine movie is sad, because the actual main villain in the book series is pretty interesting and intimidating

[@zuzannazielinska7244]

Their bigest mistake is basicaly traing to cover book 1 and 3 in the same movie (They could just adapt the first book). And changing things for no aperent reason

[@junglalii]

As someone who only watched the movie, I think they did it because they didn't plan to make a franchise. I saw the movie a couple of weeks ago and it felt pretty self-conclusive to me, I wouldn't make a second movie out of it.

[@ishamitra678]

Tbh I think this is one of those books that would just be better as a TV show but like an animated one

[@zuzannazielinska7244]

@@junglalii I agree with you. When I first saw the movie I was like "it's great" and then I find out that there is more than one Book. So I decided to read them, and after that I was disapointed in movie.

[@Brainstormer_Industires]

Artemis Fowl definitely deserved a place on this list.

[@KingHoborg]

I was pumped for Artemis Fowl (even as an adult). I read quite a few of those books as a kid, but the first few really stuck with me. I knew that having the protagonist being such a villain-to-hero(ish) story would make for a great setup for a couple, maybe two or three, movies. It was so goddamn cool. Then I saw the trailer. My dreams died, I read the books I still had kicking around and called it a day (I forgot it was even a movie until you brought it up).

[@Awanturyna]

Same, i didn't even watch the movie I waited so long for. Just seeing trailer was like....'oh, it sounds like Artemis Fowl storyline without its spirit', i was Pikachu faced when it turned to be actual Artemis Fowl trailer. Like, just nothing in this trailer was giving 'Artemis Fowl ' to me, i never bothered watching it after seeing trailer

[@BrianRollinsVO]

I can usually find something redeeming in an adaptation, but that movie just did not understand Artemis Fowl.

[@AskanHelstroem]

@@BrianRollinsVO hey...at least they made Mulch normal-human-sized. So u know he is a dwarf...wait... But there r so few little people, willing to play a dwa.... But oh, something redeeming? not redeeming per se, but the Design for Holly was cool. Fitting actress, nice suit...

[@magicmonster6877]

That version of AF should never existed. It did not follow the book and was completely different than what we liked about the book

[@IAmTatianaSmith]

Great list! It should also include Beautiful Creatures

[@DeathofanEra369]

Eragon didn’t follow the flow of the book and felt rushed. Hopefully a series will be a proper showing.

[@kerianhalcon3557]

The book was so good, and like you said it was rushed. There really should have been 3 movies to properly fill it out. The series will suck just like wheel of time, which would have Robert Jordan rolling in his grave.

[@jsilvers24]

​@kerianhalcon3557 how can you say it will suck when we have little to no info on it actually happening? Also, the WoT TV series is on Amazon who is consistently fucking up adaptions, while Eragon would be on Disney+ who has made good adaptions.

[@kerianhalcon3557]

@@jsilvers24 Lets hope you are correct. I am not going to get my hopes up. you say Disney has made good adaptations, and while some have been fine, most of them have been so abysmal I have ended my Disney subscription, I think almost a year now.

[@TheAshtonForever]

It's really difficult to capture Eragon and Saphira's connection it's a combo of different types of love that is hard to get in 1hr30 min film like you said it's way more built for tv

[@dalemcgathy4996]

Eragon wasnt even rush the just didnt follow the book

[@1UPCherry]

Eragon crushed me as a child. Imagine being a nerd, and nobody likes your weird nerd crap, but then Nickelodeon makes a movie based off your favorite book series. They butchered the movie so bad, the REASON they couldn't do a sequel is because they forgot to put the most important scene into the first movie: Where Eragon blesses a child with magic. This set up the next book. Without it, THERE IS NO sequel D: ........Also Arya was supposed to be an elf princess with long black hair and that was a HUGE deal. I promise they never read the books when making the movie

[@patrickhannan1083]

I am absolutely with you there, Eragon was probably the first fantasy series I read for myself instead of my parents reading them with me. Even before the movie came out I rushed to rent the xbox game just so I could get more of the series. I remember crying when Eragon made the glass tomb for Brom, but that wasn't nearly as devastating as how bad this movie was.

[@1UPCherry]

@@patrickhannan1083 Yup! I got the Eragon game on Ps2 and I remember doing a sort of gauntlet mode. You fight waves of enemies, I got so good I literally did it blindfolded in front of my sister. It was a fun game!

[@Jebact]

@@patrickhannan1083 Ahem, not to be THAT guy BUUUUUUUUUUUT it was Saphira who made the glass tomb not Eragon.

[@Chardan001]

When I first saw those set photos of the Urgals I knew it was all over

[@Sipu97]

I don't know about the child blessing, I think they could have worked around it by either not having her at all (which causes more changes) or by having the event in the sequel. I watched the movie first before the books so I wasn't let down like that, I absolutely love Jeremy Irons as Brom and cannot think anyone else in the role. But yeah... the movie is pretty bad, wish they had done the novels justice.

[@rachelkandefer7515]

I remember watching Inkheart and going "this would have been so much better as a book." Then finding out it was based on a book.

[@johnfromwales6713]

I would also add "Cirque du freak, the Vampires assistant" to this list. They took the first 4/5 books and crammed it into 1 movie, changed characters, ages, locations etc, combined plot points and added in a new character that never existed. It was planned for more sequels and the movie set up a big war but then it massively flopped and was forgotten about. It even came out during the early 2010s at a time when vampires were all the rage.

[@Blast2224]

Hindsight 2020 is Freeform realizing they should have turned it into a series to compete with Teen Wolf but nope.

[@WildRabiea]

I don't know if you'll see my comment, but The Golden Compass was such an important piece of my teenage years. I didn't know about the books, they weren't translated in my native language, but when I saw the movie I fell in love with it. I didn't see any religious content through my teenager eyes, but I saw a strong connection between humans and animals. As a lonely kid my cat was my best friend and I picked up the idea that those we hold close to us become part of us. I watched the new adaptation and thought it was okay, but The Golden Compass will always hold a special place in my heart.

[@mollymarjorie9495]

The books get more into the religious stuff as they go on. I'm really glad the movie was meaningful to you! It's nice to know that it had a positive effect for people, especially kids at the time.

[@ivygomez8466]

I genuinely loved and still love this movie! The TV show is very good as well. I recommend you give it a shot

[@moujayay]

@@mollymarjorie9495 I am still so captured by the books! I read them way before the movie and was an instant hit with me. Also was the first contact for me as a child with Philosophy which lead to me joining the philosophy club in highschool.

[@rizkyhidayat147]

Same, i really like the movie. I like the concept, a compass that can see some stuff depending which one is needed, animal can transform to other animal form then choose which one suit them the most

[@mollymarjorie9495]

@@moujayay I love those books. I read them right before I went into high school and again right after I graduated. I love that the HBO series also included bits from The Book of Dust, at least part of which takes place befre HDM

[@fernisaperson]

I so desperately want a full length Miss Peregrine’s show. Never finished the full series, but the books I did read were so incredible and absolutely dripping with an eerie, uncanny style

[@paintingdreams290]

i do think the books are far better suited to be a six season TV series and honestly thats bc the plots so detailed i dont think movies make sense and the movie also kinda pissed me off so..

[@ahmedalbalushi281]

I am reading the last book now and really loving it so much that i am afraid they will ruin it if they made a movie or a series out of it.

[@ryandabian2982]

Gone are the days of 6+ season fantasy YA shows. Could work as a 3-season series on Netflix. Maybe 4 or 5 if its end up being a big hit. Hell, Burton himself could be showrunner as he already gave Netflix their 2nd biggest show ever in Wednesday. Any reason just to put Eva Green in something! The woman deserves to be widely popular outside of modern reboot of Three Musketeers and unwatched Apple+ shows.

[@mental_decay_]

@@ryandabian2982 Timmy lost his chance when he switched Emma's and Olive's names, erased Enoch who was a key player in figuring out if hallows were going to attack the loop, and brought the twin Gorgons back for some reason

[@jaymierae9890]

I’m surprised Thrifty said this movie had good reviews because it pissed me off too. I tried to rewatch it when it dropped on Disney, and it was no better than the first time I watched it.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

Also, The Chronicles of Narnia series seems to have ended after only 3 movies, even though there are 7 books.

[@melodylake18]

Netflix is apparently working on a series reboot. I just want them to finish the 7 novels on film. I love the 3 films!

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@melodylake18 Yeah, no need to remake the first 3, just finish making the other 4!

[@thibault_goubin]

In fact they only needed to do two more movies : The Silver Chair and The Last Battle (the former was in developpement for years before being canceled and replaced by... a netflix TV series !). The two other books are kinda standalones. The Horse and His Boy is an interquel whose main characters are not related to the Pevensies and The Magician's Nephew is a prequel about the "Professor" from the first book and the creation of Narnia.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@thibault_goubinYeah, you're right. The Horse and His Boy and The Magician's Nephew were the worst books, anyway.

[@noahkirschtein8169]

idk if they ever planned on making every book. a lot of them follow different characters in a way that wouldn’t necessarily work in a new media. disney wanted to focus on the pevensie kids, but left out the last book for obvious reasons

[@ScarlettShana]

As someone who read Mortal Instruments: Jace and Clary are not siblings. Valentine stole Jace from his dead mother and raised as his own. And Clary actually has biological brother - Sebastian. And he’s nuts. Like really nuts. He’s main villain who’s in love with sister. Thankfully Clary is against those relationships.

[@adellis24]

JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH wasn't a Bomb, it grossed over 4x its Production budget (which was & still is rare) and garnered a sequel.

[@FoxyGuyHere]

It was awesome. Sequel sucked tho.

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

@@FoxyGuyHere it was alright but followed the formula of the first a little too much.

[@macgyversmacbook1861]

Wait there was a sequel!? Because even as a kid I hated the first one

[@xyreniaofcthrayn1195]

@@macgyversmacbook1861 behold the sequel upon which they go to Atlantis, east of Palau.

[@adellis24]

​@@macgyversmacbook1861 I never said it was good, only that it didn't bomb. I've personally never seen either. Yes, there was a sequel, it starred Franchise Viagra aka The Rock and made over $100m at the box office on an $80m Budget.

[@ConnorWiederich-hr4zu]

People have also talked about a failed adaptation called The Dark Tower. There is also the live action The Last Airbender movie that fans like to forget that was supposed to adapt the 3 seasons of the animated show and now there is the live action show.

[@DragonTamer-se3oo]

The Dark Tower while a fantasy series and a bad film adaptation, does not count as intended for young adults.

[@josephknott6174]

@@DragonTamer-se3ooI feel like the film does

[@ConnorWiederich-hr4zu]

@@DragonTamer-se3oo With a name like that I can see why it's for older audiences.

[@ronsorage78]

I spent $5 on a copy of The Last Airbender movie just to leave it unopened with red tape around it that says "do not open under any Circumstances."

[@nitishdubey9002]

There is no The Last Airbender live action movie.

[@hobbes2555]

How to kill a book to video conversion. 1) Drastically change the source material. That's it.

[@Aechelian]

"How to Train Your Dragon" disagrees.

[@rokeYouuer]

"The Boys" disagrees.

[@pax6833]

"Edge of Tomorrow" (All You Need Is Kill) disagrees

[@Scalesthelizardwizard]

@@Aechelian Yes there are time when it works but that doesn't mean what adaptions should always do

[@Aechelian]

@@Scalesthelizardwizard It is not my intent to claim that it should always be so, merely to point out that there have been times where it was.

[@sburbtube6766]

The biggest problem with the Eragon movie was that it diverged by a mile from the book material.

[@tokarukora7272]

The golden compass is absolutely not intended for children. It is not a happy fantasy film, it is DARK. And that is how it should be.

[@SilberThorn]

I think I was 8 ore so

[@darktooth3563]

The author said they had wrote it for children... I think it was too dark for you maybe....

[@TheDeathmail]

It WAS meant for children. It's just that some things that are okay in books are often times less appropriate in movies.... Which makes sense....

[@atleastmothmancares1263]

@@TheDeathmail So I don't know if you have read the books, but I wouldn't say the books are for young kids either. At least here, they are placed in the young adult section. The books are also dark and the topics covered aren't for younger kids, the film was pretty faithful in that regard.

[@NeverwinterJunky]

The TV series was excellent though.

[@barbiquearea]

Can't believe you didn't mention Artemis Fowl, which Disney tried to adapt in 2020 with plans on following it up with more movies. But the first film fell completely flat on release that it killed any of their planned sequels.

[@kingkazuma2239]

Loved the books. I could never see it being made into a movie. An animated TV show would work better

[@JuLiane]

I LOVED the books as a kid/preteen. They were my whole life and back then I wanted a movie so badly. I remember when it was confirmed that there was going to be a movie years later and I was ecstatic and when the first teaser came out and I saw Haven on screen I was happy, but the more I learned about what they were doing (genderbending Root, combining book 1 and 2, etc.) I was more and more put off and when I heard the words "I'm Holly Short, your ally on the other side" I chose for myself to not watch it. They took the characters, stripped them of everything that made them who they were until only the names remained and then wondered why people hated it. At this point I hope my other favourite book series as a child, Bartimaeus by Jonathan Stroud, won't ever get an adaptation bc I feel like it's impossible to do it justice. The Lockeood&Co. show on Netflix, also by Jonathan Stroud, was very good however, but Netflix did what it usually does and immediately axed it. Which would break my heart if a Bartimaeus adaptation was actually good but gets prematurely cancelled.

[@paintingdreams290]

@@kingkazuma2239 it can work as a movie (or a TV show) the problem was the movie almost entirely diverged from the source material to a point where it was a good movie, but not a good adaptation simply bc the plot wouldve worked so well if it wasnt an adaptation that had existing source material

[@DaDunge]

@@kingkazuma2239 Funny thing is it actually does read like an Action Movie. But a proper adaptation of Artemis Fowl has a target audience older than the main character and I don't think disney udnerstood that. Artemis Fowl has firefights explosions and blood. It has Butler beatng the crap out of a trooll witha morning star.

[@oneslikeme]

I didn't know until recently that it had even been made into a movie. I think the pandemic killed a whole lot of films around this time

[@tankizard]

A *lot* of Eragon fans, myself included, absolutely *despise* the movie. It felt like, to me, that the screenwriters just made up a story and tacked on the Eragon name with next to ZERO regard for the source material outside the existence of the names and a lone dragon

[@oknodiangames6]

I've never read the Eragon books. Is it really that bad? Your comment reminded me of what they did to Max Payne with that movie. Same character names, and very few slightly accurate plot details, but otherwise completely unrelated to the original story.

[@tankizard]

@@oknodiangames6 So, I don't know the Max Payne movie or books, but I would assume that it is a very similar situation. A lot of the events in the Eragon movie happened the opposite way they happened in the book, or they were set up and never resolved

[@oknodiangames6]

@@tankizard Sorry for not clarifying what Max Payne actually is. Sorry for the confusion. Max Payne is a series of video games with the first two having a really deep and well-written and acted story. You should look them up on youtube. Find a walkthrough with no commentary. If you like books and stories, you might enjoy watching the first two games being played. And yes, that's what the Max Payne movie was like. And the worst part is that the director had said in interviews that he stuck to the game story as much as he could when the entire movie was basically one big unneccessary change. And the saddest part is that the games emulate action suspense thriller movies, and are probably the most perfect games for a movie adaptation.

[@wicklebee]

Yeah, it was a no brainer to be hated by fans of the books. I was absolutely pissed off at the movie for screwing it up and to this day anytime someone mentions they were going to adapt Eldest I just say: "They couldn't, they killed off the second most important character to the book."

[@Stealthclaw]

I enjoyed the movie!… well. Until I read the book 😂 then I rewatched it and got very disappointed lmao I think it was alright as a movie but as an adaptation of a book? Mmmm. No thanks, haha!

[@alaia-awakened]

Lemony Snicket with Jim Carrey was a masterpiece in my opinion. The storytelling, the acting, the art style, the editing - all of it was so fresh and original. Every second is interesting, whereas series tend to be bloated. I still watch it regularly.

[@HunterJoeGreene]

Inkhart felt like a fever dream! All I could remember was Faizer could bring characters to life by reading out loud, someone close to him got trapped in a book, and it ended with his daughter apparently having this power too

[@akuaduulza3103]

The books are lovely though, they were my favourite growing up!

[@Ji-zt7ny]

​@@akuaduulza3103 Still one my favourites and I actually really like the movie

[@JusticiaGrand]

The books are way better than the movie. They are actual German books and I really like the internationality of this entire production. German movie industry does not have all the money and tech to produce a movie like that and seeing one of your favorite authors from your childhood getting this opportunity is great.

[@akuaduulza3103]

@@JusticiaGrand true! I think Germany produced a film from one of her other books (King of Thieves). I've never watched it but I doubt it even had an international distribution. Anyway she's a great writer, she truly understands the spirit of fairytales

[@Lollyta1298]

​​@@akuaduulza3103 It actually had an international distribution 😊 I guess it just wasn't that successful 😅 The movie's called "The Thief Lord", it's a German-British production from 2006 with only British actors (e.g. Aaron Taylor-Johnson, Jim Carter or Caroline Goodall). It's okay for a family movie, but I haven't read the book so of course, I can't say if it does the source material justice 😁

[@hollywooddarling]

A Series of Unfortunate Events movie had a lot going for it. To this day, the costumes are revered in the costume design community, especially Violet Baudelaire's dress. The art direction (the end credits are still one of the best end credits I've ever seen in cinema), production design (by Rick Heinrichs) and costume design (by Colleen Atwood) (all regulars of Tim Burton) is still very loved. Despite cramming 4 books into one movie and toning down the wit and cynicism and dark humor, the film still holds up quite a bit, thanks to the excellent casting---- the child actors playing the 3 kids are fantastic (even the baby twins yes!). Emily Browning's performance as Violet is still very loved, and aside from Jim Carrey, the supporting cast is STACKED and excellent. The film is actually what convinced me to start reading the books since as a child I was too caught up in Harry Potter/Narnia/His Dark Materials/Artemis Fowl to focus on another kids/young adult fantasy series but watching the film convinced me. Of course I enjoyed the Netflix series as well, because it finally got the full-length faithful adaptation it deserved, but it didn't have the lavish Gothic treatment and art direction that the film had.

[@jean-mi1825]

It, indeed had a very Burton-ish feel to it !

[@tilergrimm4953]

Welp I’ll definitely be reading the books then!

[@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats]

The video's opinion on this movie is strange. Jim Carrey was the only sore point because he never really gave off any sinister vibes. On the up side, Browning was great, and Billy Conolly is always good.

[@PaletteDreams-i1p]

I loved all the movies and the series of Unfortunate events series which is highly underrated. It had aspects of German expressionism and so many details. The costumes were amazing and Violet, claus and sunny will always be my favorite

[@Awanturyna]

Not seen the movie or tv show, but for me these books just...don't sound like movie/tv show material. There is so much humour and vibe that is pure word world, i do not see a way for it to be translated into screen medium

[@thetracybelle]

Fun fact: The Mortal Instruments books are basically a rewrite/mashup of some Harry Potter fanfics that Cassandra Clare wrote back in the day (more or less) but she’s been plagued with plagiarism claims so yeah.

[@edselgreaves6503]

You can tell by the way she named her main character Clary and her antagonist Valentine that she doesn't have a creative bone in her body.

[@CassandraY]

I deeply enjoy reading fanfictions, but can people STOP making the bad ones into movies? And also stop suggesting them like they're amazing life changing stories because they're being sold for money (looking at you Booktok)? I like my fanfics to be made by people doing it as a hobby or practice and FREE. Stop charging money for substandard stories only because licensing was cheaper.

[@louyou6614]

​@CassandraY lol we may be loosing Ao3 if people don't get a grip and stop selling their fanwork

[@jazzycat8917]

Oh thats not even half of it. The "Jace is Clary's brother" fckery exists because this plot was originally a Ron x Ginny incest fic that Cassandra wrote out of spite for how much she hated the Harry x Ginny shippers in the Harry Potter fandom. She was a BIG TIME Harry x Hermione shipper, got involved in a shit ton of extremely cringey shipwars and other drama, and the story that would one day become The Mortal Instruments was born from that.

[@CassandraY]

@@louyou6614 Oh, I know. I download all the fics I like just in case. I've already lost quite a few fics that I liked specifically because they were looking to sell them. Like, stop. If you want to sell a story, turn it into an original story like that one stupid author did with 50 Shades.

[@tehdipstick]

I do remember then the Spiderwick Chronicles series was first announced a few years back, either during D23 or one of the Disney Investor Day presentations. I'm guessing it was cancelled for Disney+, and subsequently shopped around until Rokup picked it up, because of the Disney+ upheaval, where they cancelled several projects in development and removed a lot of their less successful original content, like Mighty Ducks: Game Changers, Big Shot, and Flora & Ulysses.

[@affanjamsari5752]

I remembered watching *The Spiderwick Chronicles* at school one day. My teachers decided to show it, but I didn’t really like it all that much; one student was basically crying due to how intense it was. The main thing that scares me about the movie is Thimbletack. The best way I could describe him is that he’s a miniature Bruce Banner; turns into a raging monster when angered. There’s just something about it that really scares me.

[@anonimanonimus3620]

I loved it as a kid. I watched it so many times and never got bored of it.

[@Bybelial]

I had it downloaded on my ipod nano lmao Books were better

[@GaryDowns-n5v]

The missin the father was emotional and them not wantin to move

[@porgiwankenobi5668]

IIRC Mortal Instruments actually did start as a Harry Potter fanfiction with Ginny and Draco playing the main love interests.

[@spntageous5249]

Yes which actually started as a Ron/Ginny fanfic, hence the weird incest thing

[@AnnieLeslie]

Spoiler they find out later they weren't actually related. Her dad kidnapped him.

[@AC-hj9tv]

​@@spntageous5249cringe

[@pax6833]

@@AnnieLeslie I remember complaining to the author in an email that this double twist was a lame cop out (paraphrased) because she either shouldn't have bothered or fully committed. I actually got a reply from the author as apparently I was the only surprising email she ever got, since usually everyone complained about the first twist reveal and the surprise incest.

[@RobertK1993]

Ginny despised that bigot Draco her family don't like the Malfoys and vice versa they are huge rivals.

[@mnplumberman]

Miss Peregrine's would be good for TV. The only problem is the aging issue with the children/actors.

[@DaWittyWombat]

I actually enjoyed that movie, got me to read the books

[@MrEdwardHolloway]

I also really liked the movie. Had so many big stars in it and also stars now (Asa Butterfield and Ella Purnell).

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

How is that a problem when animation exist? ...

[@PaletteDreams-i1p]

Omg it so would

[@Nopeasaurus]

its a fun book but its not good enough to be a movie.

[@jibrilnoflugel1702]

12:53 in fac they are actually not brothers. It was all a lie to manipulate them, but that is said in the 2nd book, as i remember

[@randygiles845]

What about Divergent? They stopped the series after three movies and never made the final movie in the series!

[@arforafro5523]

Divergent was scifi not fantasy, that was a whole different generation of YA novels focusing on future dystopias along with Hunger Games and Mazerunner.

[@anon2427]

That whole YA post apocalyptic dystopian-lite era was pretty bad

[@mynameisreallycool1]

Wait, Divergent has more than three books? I didn't even know until now.

[@randygiles845]

@@mynameisreallycool1 they split the third book into two movies and never made the part 2.

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

Those movies tried to hard to copy Hunger Games

[@Arcothefox]

The Eragon film failed to get a sequel, not because it failed as a movie, but they altered the world and killed off characters that were necessary for the sequels. The smith's children getting conscripted at the start, empire troops in Eragon's village, The Razak dying, and other changes. All these elements happening, meant it was imossible to make the sequels.

[@samuelparker7280]

Meh it also underperformed and was very underwhelming. I remember going to the theater opening night with 3 friends who all loved the book we were so disappointed hated everything about it. Completely failed as a movie to me and I am normally very forgiving of movies loved the flash for instance

[@murphy7801]

It failed from someone who was an adult when it came out, because it was dull

[@ThePopo543]

They could've done an a-- pull for the razac like they did for Noyan in Diriliş Ertuğrul. Just bury them in cursed soil watered with the blood of innocents then have an evil shaman beat a drum and chant some stuff and poof! Resurrected!

[@mentaya11]

Yeah, it was mediocre overall, but it's one of the only movies that *intended* for there to be a sequel (that I've see) where they literally changed enough plot points to write them into a corner and make a sequel (at least one that follows the books) imposible.

[@DngnRdr]

The books were amazing though, and was hugely popular.... if they had done a better job of bringing the book to the screen there was a pre-made audience but killing off essential characters and not even including other characters, pretty much destroyed the fan interest.

[@nickirenae]

The mortal instruments and the infernal devices series altered my brain chemistry forever. I will never be over the fact that they ruined it TWICE.

[@amandawalker7739]

Yes they had 2 chances and f***ed it up twice!!

[@pietermuller3654]

At least the series gave us the Alex & Magnus we can carry in our hearts for ever. It's only redeeming quality.

[@philritter9042]

I really loved the books when I was young even tho the love story was just stupid with all the I’m your brother, no im not. The worldbuilding is great and all but I never got into the prequel. The movie butchered it as if that was the goal they really fucked up there

[@NaneB-ny2go]

I kind of liked the series, it was so far away from the books, it was like a fanfiction for me😅

[@SilentProti]

I read the first book, couldn't finish the second. I watched the movie, it was terrible. And since I watched lots of videos about the author and yep, I don't fw the books anymore... I watched a bit of the first episode, and at least it was good the characters got aged up and Clary wasn't such a mean hag to Simon, so that was a good sign.

[@lostsoul404]

I saw Inkheart when I was in like class 3-4 and couldn't even speak english fluently or understand it properly by hearing it. I watched it with subtitles and it was probably the first fantasy movie I saw from start to end. The movie got me into fantasy theme and my love for fantasy movies like HP, LOTR and Narnia series. However, I forgot about the movie, never saw it again. Though, i remembered fregments of it, but couldn't remember the title. It's probably the first time I'm hearing about it since then and am afraid if I should watch it or not. I have this special place for it in my heart that i think will be destroyed if the movie actually sucks. Guess I'm one of those 3 fans of this movies.

[@BleistiftSchwert]

As Germans me, my family and Friends were CRAZY about the Inkheart being adapted into an international movie with Brandon Fraiser and Paul Bettany (who was just incredible sexy in this movie). The author of Inkheart is a very famous children book author in Germany and has written some groundbreaking books for the German market making many, many kids starting to read

[@MSSProductions1]

i'm one of these. WIlde Hühner for lifeeeeeeeeeee

[@miyukidawn9803]

Yes it is popular in germany

[@Heather90]

Dragon Rider ❤

[@lavenderflowersfall280]

I really like The Golden compass when it came out. The idea of having your souls be an animal form or something was really cool

[@Knyph]

I fucking loved that movie as a kid, read the book, loved that but couldn't really remember the movie, rewatched the movie, now I hate the movie, omg they butchered that story so bad.. they cut out the entire third act (even though it's filmed and you can view it without any cgi)

[@lyranorthernstar3802]

@@Knyphwatch the tv series of it His dark materials it’s phenomenal

[@Thepirireis]

@@lyranorthernstar3802 I really loved this series👍🏻

[@willlyon7129]

I did enjoy the world building, but the main heroine wasn’t that engaging.

[@melanierenz1517]

I liked the movie, too! Which kind of cooled down when I read the books. Got to see the series now.

[@sorbbae620]

i feel like the mortal instuments is, so close to actually being a success, it just doesnt have the required level of polish.

[@TheFantasylover96]

Agreed, I honestly prefer it over the tv series

[@thechaosalter]

I agree. Although the series is not so terrible, at least they managed to finish the main plotline of Clary's books.

[@PaletteDreams-i1p]

There is a mortal instrument show called Shadowhunters and is it just me but I loved every single one of these movies as a kid

[@pietermuller3654]

The movie flopped in personal opinion with their casting and the bad rewriting of first books ending. The show did a great job a casting and the first season was mostly decent and story accurate, then the season 2 and 3 went of the rails with exactly that combining too many plot points or rewriting them completely , what kept fans watching was the Alex and Magnus story. And while The books become a lot of the same tropes and story and issues for me over and over, with out decent writing or payoff. The Clockwork Trilogy and the The Bane Chronicles where my personal flavorists from all that I have read and are prime for decent movies or mini series if they stick to the books.

[@deadpliss]

Why? I think the TV series is great, I remember waiting each week for a new episode. I like the idea, thanks to that series that led me to Supernatural

[@alexateachey9680]

Series of Unfortunate events was my childhood 😭😭😭 I love that movie so much (and the books, I read them all)

[@dasdingausmkeller4938]

The "series of unfortunate events" movie was my favorite movie as a child and sparked my love for Jim Carrey as an actor. I didn't know the books back then, they're not very well known in Germany and I found the DVD on a garage sale for one buck. Turned out to be one of my favorite stories of all time. By now I purchased all of the books in English (they're pretty expensive so it took me a few years to get all 13). I'm currently reading the 8th book. Haven't seen the Netflix series yet because I want to finish the books first but I'm so excited to finally watch it soon. But the movie will forever stay one of my favorite movies!

[@tomotan5552]

Contrary to its name I think that we fans of a "Series of Unfortunate Events" have been very fortunate haha because all the adaptations are really good. I like the movie and the Netflix series, both depict the essence of the books very well.

[@mamumurako]

Haven’t read the books but the movie was also one of my favorites. Loved the casting as well up to the minor characters. There’s also a sense of immersion the way the movie was directed, the same way the first HP movie felt to me. Just a really fun watch.

[@lemonpines]

You're taking the words out of my mouth! I was obsessed with the movie as a kid and hunted down all the books in their German translation, they are so hard to come by! This franchise really defined my humor as a kid

[@c292r89dvbh]

Clary and Jace are _not actually siblings_ btw. Reading the books, you could see it coming from a mile away. But it was weird that Cassandra Clare dragged out the pretence until City of Glass. Clary does, however, kiss her real brother...I don't know why it was a recurring theme.

[@k.p.k.8915]

because star wars was also an inspiration

[@heart_beat_s354]

​@@k.p.k.8915 I think the same. The author confirmed it, yeah?

[@miyukidawn9803]

I mean it is a fanfiction so taking inspration is a given ​@@k.p.k.8915

[@pingusdad]

well cassandra used to be pretty infamous in Harry Potter fandom for writing Ron x Ginny fanfics so I guess it's just her thing lol

[@MichiElleR]

Think it is an author kink. Like someone else commented, she wrote Ginny/Ron fanfic. And Shadow Hunters actually started as a Harry Potter AU fanfic, though the plot is from a Hermione/Draco fan fic, the title itself was apparently one of her Ron/Ginny fics.

[@EricvonGuttemberg]

The problem with Eragon is that filmmakers distanced it so much from the books (twisting essential points of the plot) that the movie actually sucked not only as adaptation, but as a movie itself.

[@fanamatakecick97]

Hell, they even made up subplots that weren’t even present in the book! Like Galbatorix’s conscription for his armies… he wasn’t doing that at all in the books. He was an evil man, not an evil king

[@TheDandelionViking]

​@fanamatakecick97 To be fair to the guy, he WANTED to do good. He was just twisted by grief and hatred and left most of the day to day business running country to his underlings. Who ruled in fear of him, his Shade (evil spirit), his flesh eating (human in particular) monsters . He wanted to, SPOILER BTW, to lock away magic so someone like him couldn't abuse their unnatural power to force their will on people. Kinda ironic.

[@fanamatakecick97]

@@TheDandelionViking Are you referring to Durza (the shade) and the Ra’sac? Just making sure you’re saying Galatorix was grief stricken and not the director All that said, i haven’t actually finished the 4th book 😅

[@berengustav7714]

​@@fanamatakecick97Galbatorix had a point when he says that the coins will become useless if a magic user starts multiplying coins and Galbatorix is stopping the inlflation. And he wants to police the language of magic and make it very difficult for any magician to harm others and to gain power over the annoyingly OP elves.

[@lynnb2562]

The movie was better than the book. The only thing that made it watchable was the distance they put between the movie and the book. The only reason anyone of the books published is nepotism. No publisher in their right mind would have ever touched it with 100 ft pole.

[@TroyRad-f1m]

I started watching this channel because of the walking Dead content but your other videos are awesome as well I stayed for the analysis videos great job keep up the good work

[@mutantsupremacies]

paul bettany as dustfinger in ink heart deserves a shoutout. he was perfect

[@Alejandroigarabide]

And Andy Serkis as te villain was great too.

[@stahppls2293]

He was one of my earliest crushes ❤ Now there's a movie change that I prefer to the book, him having a family inside the book making him desperate to return compared to the book with him being in love with the mom

[@shaie3224]

Amen

[@muraalia]

Sorry, this movie has Brendan Fraser, Paul Bettany and Andy Serkis?! I need to see this thing.

[@Alejandroigarabide]

@@muraalia It's worth it. Specially the third act.

[@tribalbreeze]

So pleased you mentioned His Dark Materials - this series was so phenomenal and true to the source material. I loved it and was so thrilled when the BBC did it properly!

[@catalinacaro8183]

Yeah, I remember watching the movie as a grown up (teen) after reading the books and fell flat, then later found out they made a series, watched and they totally nailed it, was so happy for it.

[@lyranorthernstar3802]

Yes ❤❤❤❤❤

[@TyeRempfer]

I logged-in to the comments to say just that. His Dark Materials was done very, very well. Watch it.

[@samariapenaloza6106]

😮 I didn't know that his dark materials had three seasons I mainly only seen like one season for sale on video perhaps I'll have to download the other two seasons

[@dandereninja4750]

Fun fact about shadowhunters it’s later revealed in the series that Clary and Jace aren’t siblings but are called brother and sister by the fairies because they both share angel blood.

[@danskrista]

If you read the books it's actually not that. They are not brother and sister. But more complicated.

[@danterek9901]

still wrong

[@scottnutting5895]

Loved the video, tons of great points and opinions. Something I'd like to add is that even amongst the book's that do better as a series adaptation than a movie the ones that seem to do best have longer episodes in a full series structure rather than 15 minutes with 6 or 8 episodes, allowing the stories to properly be told and flushed out.

[@juanpablogimon2139]

Cirque du Freak: The Vampire's Assistant, The Sorcerer's Apprentice, Jumper, I Am Number Four... Those failed too, right?

[@epbrown01]

I’m less upset about Jumper not becoming a series, and more upset that Impulse (the spin-off created for KZbin Red alongside Cobra Kai) got canceled.

[@happysnowman42]

I would love to see the vampire assistant rebooted.

[@foreheadAzzA]

Was waiting for those movies to show up in the video.

[@LenasLeben]

Cirque du freak was sooooo good. Unfortunaly it was released by the same time one of the twilight sequels came out :(

[@paulodelima5705]

I Am Number Four is getting a reboot.

[@thecandlemaker1329]

It's so refreshing to see someone look at a 6/10 score and treat it as the above average result it is, rather than proclaiming it to be a total disgrace because it failed to scratch that 8/10 mark that every piece of media apparently has to reach in this age of apocalyptic market oversaturation.

[@mentaya11]

Eh, as someone who watches a lot of stuff and likes seeing how the results are on IMDB, I personally would say a 6 is average, not above average. Maybe 5-6 is average range? A 6 is not bad. It's typically good movie, one of the ones to consider watching this year, but not something that will stand out when you're looking for best movie of the last decade or so a few year down the line. 5 is usually somewhat ssub-par. 7 is good and anything 8+ is excellent. 4- ranges from bad to awful. I agree though that too many people automatically dismiss a movie for what amounts to an ok rating.

[@SilverFoxfire]

Miss Peregrine's made me *so mad* when TB made a lot of choices to swap around ages/powers with characters from the books because he "didn't like them" the way they were in the novels.

[@mmmmmmmm1942]

7:41 ok I need the see that version of the hunger games

[@meganhirschi6248]

It’s always sad when the magic and uniqueness of a book is turned into something generic. The biggest one of these EVER in my opinion was, “The Dark is Rising”.

[@Argendriel]

Hey now, everyone agreed that there never was an adaptation of TDiR, let's not change that.

[@creslinwest9243]

I loved this series, I also hate the fact that I can never remember the name of the first book correctly, I almost always get the "under" and "over" mixed up.. Just googled it incorrectly and found out the correct title comes up anyway. I'm going to get them on audible.

[@Argendriel]

@@creslinwest9243 Ha, yeah, that title is something. The audiobooks are pretty nice! Love how they got an actual Welsh narrator for The Grey King (which is my favourite book in the series).

[@jenb7756]

Exactly! I was so excited for the movie but it didn't include any of the stuff that made me love the books

[@GamingTopTen]

When I watched Eragon without reading the books: This is the shit! When I watched it after reading the books: This is shit!

[@ThePopo543]

I kinda liked the movie ngl. I was disappointed that they removed so much stuff but at least it's fun to watch

[@seankane9508]

I had read the book before seeing the movie. I was very disappointed.

[@rinsuaa]

spiderwick chronicles was my gateway to western fantasy and i loved the books so much as a kid, it’s one of the reasons i’m obsessed with d&d and fantasy in general now. the books were also my introduction to tony diterlizzi’s wondla series and holly black’s other works like cruel prince, both of which i love even now. they could never make me hate u spiderwick chronicles!!!

[@nezumisenshi]

Im just sad with the Adaption. I loved the Books so much and still do. They where my entry into fantasy and loving to read. But i never recomend the movie to anyone because it barely Container anything of what i loved so much about the books.

[@rinsuaa]

@@nezumisenshireal i agree, the movie wasn’t great and i’m disappointed with how they “adapted” it. the books will always be superior imo and i hope the movie managed to at least introduce some ppl to the books

[@lyehd4475]

Never read the books. So without knowing the books I honestly LOVE the movie. Even today as a full grown adult

[@nezumisenshi]

@rat_in_a_bucket im aktually happy for everyone that loves the Movie. I dont hate it and im no person thats like "The book was sooo much better" or that i hate every change between Books and Movies. In this Case its just that the things i personally Fell in love with arent im the Movie at all so im kinda sad that people dont get to see these things and we could Talk about it.

[@jennifergrahame591]

I didn't read the book, but liked the movie. We do have a family joke about the fact that words "THE BOOK!!!" make up at least a third of the script. 😆

[@baluk05]

Its pretty easy.... franchise that involves mostly kids and teenagers usually fails....

[@WarpingFist]

I don’t know if it’s even possible for a new young teen fantasy series to kick off ever again.

[@Comicbroe405]

I'm pretty sure they're trying to do that now but making them tv shows.

[@avb19d6]

Certainly possible, original though? That’s the hard part

[@jaredwonnacott9732]

Why not? Kids still read frequently, things go viral even more easily now than when all these books made it big, and all it takes is one really good book to do something fun, original, and captivating. There will almost certainly be many more successful franchises down the road.

[@robertohernandezpena6025]

Percy jackson?

[@JeantheSecond-ip7qm]

Might take a few years for the fatigue to wear off, but ya fantasy’s time will come back around.

[@XStrawberryDaze]

Spoilers for The Mortal Instruments (RE: the Clary/Jace thing) // The sibling twist with Clary and Jace literally put me off from the books for so long, because... you know. It's such an unnecessary thing in already over-the-top books, and some (but not all) people try to defend it by reminding us that ||**SPOILERS**|| they aren't REALLY siblings! (That's a whole convoluted plot line on its own.) But even if they aren't "really" related, the end of the first book, and the whole second book, and part of the third book treats them as if they ARE. Because that's what Clary and Jace think, and what everyone else thinks. AND THEY STILL PURSUE A ROMANCE (kind of)! So, it's still freaking weird (and that's putting it mildly). And then there's the thing with Clary's REAL brother having a thing for her... Cassandra Clare, when I get you... 🙃

[@deadpooldan9862]

Yeah, the books are weird, but they’re also really great, especially the franchise as a whole. Try reading the other series in the Shadowhunter Chronicles

[@XStrawberryDaze]

@@deadpooldan9862 I'm realizing I probably came across like I don't like the Shadowhunters universe, and I wanna clarify, I was actually super into them a while back! I've read the Infernal Devices (some of my favorites), part of the Dark Artifices, and a few of the "side books" (the Bane Chronicles, Tales from the Shadowhunter Academy), and I agree that they can be pretty good! I just haven't read most of them due to life stuff and being pretty busy the past couple of years! :p I just always get annoyed at the sibling thing haha

[@deadpooldan9862]

@@XStrawberryDaze I can understand that, it really is super weird, but the books are so good I don’t let that drag them down. Even with it, it’s only on the Mortal Instruments series, not in the other series, so if you can get past that, it’s a smooth, great ride. I’ve read every book in the franchise, they’re all pretty good

[@loriandanna]

Found out the mortal instruments started as a Harry Potter fanfic where the main love interest was Ron and Ginny. Looking at most of her other fanfics you see she is very into sibling incest, so I believe it was started as an siblings but had to get changed after the public backlash which I remember was big.

[@UnpopularMeow]

​@@deadpooldan9862 I didn't like The Mortal Instruments that much, but adore The Infernal Devices.

[@jordanrooker678]

The biggest problem with Eragorn was the pacing. I read the book as a kid after thinking the movie was pretty cool, and the books were SOOOOOOOO much better because they didn't rush things at a breakneck pace. Things that take hours in the film take weeks in the book (if i remember correctly, maybe longer), and the characterization is so much better for it, and it really takes it beyond the generic feel as you're invested in these characters. Frankly it never had a chance of capturing that in a relatively short film style.

[@alexanderbey7541]

I highly recommend all of the books of the movies. I red almost all of them and I loved all of them. As a kid/young adult it was so sad to see all these movies being so much worse than the books.

[@flowerbloom..]

to this day i mourn the loss of mortal instruments. also, ending the movie on THAT cliff hanger was actually criminal, it’s so hard to defend the franchise when people are left believing they’re actually siblings.

[@ethanbirling1115]

have you tried shadowhunters, it is the mortal instruments show and I believe it good

[@PaletteDreams-i1p]

Omg that’s what I’ve been saying. Shadowhunters is good and I actually loved the Mortal Instruments movie as a kid

[@flowerbloom..]

@@ethanbirling1115 ive actually been rewatching shadowhunters since watching this video, its not as good as i remembered it being🥲

[@ethanbirling1115]

@@flowerbloom.. might be the vibe I wait till spooky season starts.

[@SilentProti]

oh right, it's funny bc the movie SPOILS that Clary's mom took some potion to fall asleep, and Clary sees that Simon got bitten by a vampire and she says nothing! Both of those things are revealed in the later books! But we're left to believe they are siblings!

[@matthewmiller6979]

I believe a large part of what killed Eragon was how it deviated from the book. Yes, you have to lose a lot when going from a 300+ page book to a 120 min movie, but there was no way to go into Eldest when Erogan choose to stay and lead instead of going to continue his training.

[@sarahhenry3607]

For real, there's just a lot of choices they made in regards to the books that just did not make sense. Two major ones I can pick off the top of my head is Arya with her design, and how Saphira got zapped with insta age lightening. Like ya said, obviously we gotta condense things from the books, but I feel one of the biggest reasons people loved Eragon so much was because of how he and Saphira grew up together, learning about each other. Even how he picked her name was significant. I hated how the movie chose to have the dragon name herself. The relationships Eragon develops with the people around him was very captivating, and we got to see him grow up from an insanely rude/dumb kid, to an incredibly understanding and down to earth adult. So to see his character portrayed like it was in the movie... it was rough to say the least

[@matthewmiller6979]

@@sarahhenry3607 or how they completely changed the Razac and the Urguls

[@ethanbirling1115]

it's big thing was as stated by paolini himself: "I wasn't entirely sure where the story was going if anywhere, i just got into college and life was going to get rough for as while"(I paraphrased part of that)

[@VanderWolls]

His Dark Materials is an absolute gem of a series. The problem the films suffered is that it doesn't fit into the YA formula that Hollywood studios demand. I'm sad you couldn't fit in Jupiter Ascending.

[@seper159]

Eragon is NOT a failed franchise. They were NEVER planning to make a sequel. It's very obvious from the MANY deviations from the book. They changed the story so much that a sequal would be IMPOSSIBLE.

[@DarkcIoud1111.]

Not going to lie, it would be kind of interesting to watch Hunger Games, but from the POV of the people in the Capitol watching the games like a reality show.

[@ksawerystan]

Actually Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, especially the book gives pretty much that perspective

[@CB-hw7iu]

I like your idea.

[@cielomcmeekin7296]

Yes!

[@Cara_Aleatorio29]

​The movie adaptation for this specific book as well. I don't know how different it is, but I loved the movie, I think it was the best of the movie franchise. Now, I don't know how it goes on the books.

[@sayyurrr]

@@Cara_Aleatorio29the new movie is actually way more faithful to the source material than the original hunger games movies

[@Getwright-]

Another one I remember was the vampires assistant. Based on the Circe de freak books. I was a fan of the books so I was super excited when I heard about a movie coming. It wasn’t bad but suffered from exactly what you mentioned: trying to cram to much into 1 movie

[@Gater32322]

The Cirque Du Freak books were so awesome

[@Randompersonnumber3]

Not only that, they spoiled a major part of the series that is in one of the last books in the adaptation of the first book! I was reading the series when I saw the movie and was mad! (Fortunately I had already guessed the twist but still!)

[@mental_decay_]

They bastardized the books, don't kid yourself

[@sarahhenry3607]

I'm in that awkward spot where I saw the movie first, kinda love it a lot. And now I'm too hesitant to read the books xD

[@mental_decay_]

@@sarahhenry3607 The books are much better, like for one thing, Evra is a sweetheart in it unlike in the movie and I love reading his and Darren's friendship. The first book is the Vampire's assistant, Cirque Du Freak is the second

[@KommandeurMumm]

What also killed the Golden Compass movie was the marketing. The first teaser trailer for the movie compared it to Lord of the Rings and starts literally with the One Ring transforming into the Compass. So yeah, people who didn't know the books were led to believe it was something else beforehand. Additionally the movie covered not even the whole first book and left out the rather harsh cliffhanger of the book, it also took away almost all of of the religion critique. It was a disaster in every way you look at it.

[@josevenhundret3384]

oh yes... a bad mismarketing, similar to "Bridge to Terabithia"

[@eshbena]

@@josevenhundret3384 Bridge should NEVER have been marketed as a fantasy film for kids! That movie is utterly gut wrenching and wtf people that's NOT something to show to kids unless you want them in therapy for years after!!!

[@3baxcb]

The one silver lining is that GRRM went with HBO for the adaptation of his book series rather than any movie franchise proposal that would have been far more difficult to just get green-lit. Now that series had its run, a prequel series is going stong with another spin-off on the way.

[@murphy7801]

That and it's heavily atheist story 😂 that doesn't fly in the USA

[@TwistedChungus]

@@eshbena I always get a laugh out of comments that say they were traumatized by movies like Bridge or the og Transformers. Just never been able to connect with the idea that people needed a children's movie to traumatize them.

[@StacyRampaul]

Excellent video. Subbed!

[@rachelkenyon9163]

I hear people say Fantasy should be a series so that it can have more buildup and development time and then complain that things are boring or "slow burn" and give up on them.

[@silindemann102]

i fear the mortal instruments would be a lot better if it wasn’t written by a woman who very clearly WANTS the main love interests to be siblings … they aren’t siblings btw. but they do think they are for all of the second book and still want each other so bad it’s insane

[@caroldevaney7630]

And then when she finds her real brother she has already kissed him once

[@jenniegjerdsbakk9478]

I know that it’s a very unpopular opinion but I love the movie because I found the movie before I read the books. I even have the first book with the movie cover but it’s translated into Norwegian( my first language) I liked and didn’t like the series because I didn’t( basically like the red colour of Clary’s hair, in my mind Lily had the right red colour while Nat didn’t) and since I don’t have the books in English I haven’t finished the series yet😢

[@emmalethmayfair9742]

In the books they're not really siblings in the end. Valentine (the villian) claims they are, but he is only Clary's father. He stole Jace from the Herondale's and raised him as his own. That said, yes the author stretched that reveal for like 3 books.

[@bebel2174]

That's exactly why I gave up reading the books, and I really liked the series at first. Later on, a friend of mine who read the whole series told me that they weren't actually siblings, but still, to the point I've read, they THOUGHT that they were siblings and they still acted with a weird sexual obsession towards each other.

[@daisyviluck7932]

Plus it’s basically a Harry Potter fanfiction

[@CerbearusBane]

The worst part of Eragon was how it completely ignored the events of the book it was adapting-to the point where I don't know how they would even adapt the sequels.

[@APerson10003]

Watching this for the first time and seeing ads for the new Megamind movie is like they were made for each other.

[@rikkiwear853]

Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole is another one.

[@kingkazuma2239]

That movie was actually pretty cool but it really was just all the books combined into one movie

[@YoutubeISPROPAGANDA]

It’s a shame because that movie is really really good

[@GodisLove689]

I loved that movie.

[@DaDunge]

@@kingkazuma2239 Which is a shame because I would love more, those action shots of owl claws in that movie were so great,

[@yhibk1181]

One of my favorite series when I was younger! I still have all the books :)

[@Bloodglas]

your experience with reading Percy Jackson in school and going to see the film as a class was my experience with Eragon. also, Artemis Fowl could unfortunately be on this list.

[@nikkydalby7126]

I remember being SO EXCITED to see the movie & reread the Eragon book the week before going to see the movie. I was literally speechless - like mouth open & everything because I was absolutely floored by the direction the movie was taking. Hated that experience & absolutely loathe the movie to this day 😂

[@TheTrekkie42]

Boy Artemis Fowl fucked up so bad. And out of all the fantasy series it probably would’ve been the easiest to put in a movie. But they skipped the entire arcs of the two lead characters and destroyed their premise.

[@paintingdreams290]

the one thing is both adaptations wouldve worked as stand alone movies if they werent actually adaptations bc the plots were so diverged from the source material, hell, half the reason me and my friends were over the moon for the TV series for Percy Jackson was bc it was such a better adaptation (and most of the changes were the writers decision, which imo meant that knew what could work and what couldnt better). I was so disappointed w the movies tho

[@DaDunge]

Artemis Fowl and Seventh Son should be on this list as should be Guardians of Ga'hoole.

[@guilhermenovo8967]

Artemis Fowl has a movie !? WHAT !?!?!?

I was very surprised that Vampire Academy didn't make it into this fine video. Maybe next time.

[@saraangel6696]

maybe he's saving it for the two failed attempts video?

[@WonHakWoon]

But I liked that movie :(, I watched it multiple times

[@Miyanoai14]

I actually liked the movie. 😂 was very unexpected when I did. The thing is it’s actually accurate in plot. It’s just the tone that was off. But i was tired of dark stories at that point.

[@nickirenae]

One of my favorite series as a kid. As soon as I heard the same people that made mean girls were making the movie I knew it was doomed. Peacock actually did really well with the reboot series but it got cancelled too and I’m still not over it

[@SHunt2024]

​@@nickirenae I want to see the series sooo bad. I'll try Peacock next year. I switch streaming services out each year.

[@Sinhesthysia]

Dude the wave of nostalgia i got seeing the book covers at 21:28 is unreal

[@MissDatherinePierce]

I'm surprised that Inkheart hasn't been optioned by a German production company yet. Afterall Cornelia Funke and her books are probably bigger here than in the States. And there was a fourth book released rather recently.

[@sn1pertoaster]

German cinema is in such a horrid state due to a bunch of reasons I wouldn't want to see that, honestly

[@BethanyBartholomew]

Cornelia Funke is brilliant! ❤

[@lauraviijii]

THERE'S A FOURTH BOOK NOW oh me oh my, re-read here I come

[@Fela_rof]

@@sn1pertoaster true. better hope a german production company won't ever touch your manuscripts - it's doomed to fail from the beginning 😅

[@eternallytree6603]

@@sn1pertoaster i'm not german, can you elaborate why? very curious

[@StephenGoethals]

The positive of the Percy Jackson movies is that it got me into the books (which I love)

[@eh9344]

Dude same. I watched the movie first and thought I liked it, then I read the book, rewatched the movie and then broke my copy of the movie 😅

[@petertrudelljr]

also keep in mind that Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings BOTH leaned heavily on the fact that the books were so popular, most people already knew the world-building. They could paint that in broad strokes. I'm waiting for a Nine Princes in Amber TV series...

[@kat369-mine]

I would love to see this series. I tried reading Amber way more than once. Actually fell asleep READING. But the premise was exactly what I like and often look for. I think a TV series could actually help it. Lol

[@DaDunge]

That's true for Harry Potter but I don'ät see that at all in Lord of the rings. Sure they leave a lot unsaid but unlike Harry Potter its never anything crucial.

[@snuffysam]

@@DaDungeEh, to an extent, but like the LOTR movies didn’t need to explain what an elf is, y’know? The cultural osmosis covered a lot of the core worldbuilding.

[@DaDunge]

@@snuffysam Cept Galadriel does explain the three main races in the opening, then Bilbo explains Hobbits

[@baroquejen]

Well that's an unexpected but fully-endorsed by me suggestion!

[@Flossey114]

His Dark Materials was brilliant and kept closely to the books - I was hooked, having read the books as an adult several times

[@tamaraclaw]

"City of Ember", "The Seeker" to add to your list.."Mortal Engines", "The Giver" but those are more science fiction than fantasy

[@fuerzadelaoldschool2851]

I was just thinking about City of Ember at the beginning of the video, but I forgot the name lol.

[@xshaadrackx1919]

The seeker wasn't nearly as dark as the book and it needed to be

[@Heightren]

Something about the Golden Compass movie is how it egregiously switched acts 2 and 3 around.

[@jean-mi1825]

Actually, the last act of the book is absent from the film. But it WAS filmed. The Studios thought the first film should not end with a sad ending (Did they actually WATCH they own LotR films ? WTF New Line) and that it would be too long with this last act that made a villain of one of the heroes and killed one of the main kids !

[@Darkprosper]

@@jean-mi1825 I think that the difference is that with LotR, they went all in, making the entire trilogy no matter what. For the Golden Compass, it looks like they wanted to make the movie "work" as a stand-alone, and then make sequels if it succeeds. Giving it the book ending, without any follow-up, would have been weird, and I don't think that it would have saved the movie, so maybe it was the correct choice after all ?

[@AbelMcTalisker]

@@Darkprosper They would have had a huge problem with a sequel as most of it would have had to set up Will as a major character. That would in turn have meant that the story would have needed to be set almost entirely in our world and not in Lyra`s.

[@Darkprosper]

@@AbelMcTalisker I mean, that's essentially what happens in the books.

[@RK-fh4bp]

What sucks is when fantasy is put on TV and still sucks…like GOT S7-S8, the witcher, and rings of power. Fantasy may belong on TV, but the bigger need is to have somebody adapt the books in a respectful way.

[@MyRegardsToTheDodo]

What sucks even more is when it's actually great, the critics like it, the ratings also aren't bad and then Netflix cancels it after one season for no obvious reason. Still a bit salty (pun not intended) about Lockwood & Co. being done in that way.

[@TheMrShnickers]

Shut up bot

[@MyRegardsToTheDodo]

@@TheMrShnickers What bot?

[@paulsoldner9500]

GoT was bad from season 5, but yes you're right. The Witcher? Trash. Rings of Power? Trash. Wheel of Time? Trash.

[@MyRegardsToTheDodo]

@@paulsoldner9500 The first seasons of The Witcher actually weren't bad. The third wasn't good anymore.

[@sewnetvids]

Great video! 1. In The Mortal Instruments books we learn that Clary and Jace are NOT siblings; that plot twist carries over through at least one book. However, in the MOVIE we also learn that they are NOT siblings. Hodge's character tells Valentine, "If you LIE to them and tell them that they're both your children..." I REALLY liked the City of Bones movie, which was my entry to the books. The TV show iteration, Shadowhunters, was NOT an improvement to the story, although I did prefer a few of the casting choices of the TV. Shadowhunters was its own thing, and I stopped hating it after I stopped comparing it to the movie and books. 2. In my opinion Miss Peregrine's School for Peculiar Children was miscast and also was tonally "off" from the books. The vibe of the movie was the typical Tim Burton "whacky weird and whimsical" (a vibe I usually like in his work), but it just didn't match at all with the vibe that I got from reading the first book in the series. 3. Finally, here are some more failed YA Fantasy franchises: Fallen (2016) based on the first book of Lauren Kate's 5-book series. Vampire Academy (2014) based on the first book of Richelle Mead's 6-book series. There was a Vampire Academy TV series adaptation in 2022, but it only lasted one season. I never watched it, so I can't compare it to the movie or books. Beautiful Creatures (2013) based on Kami Garcia's and Margaret Stohl's 4-book series. While none of these three movies were masterpieces, they each had something that appealed to me--from cast, to vibe, to plot. Each of these movies introduced me to the books, which I enjoyed.

[@jaysons7395]

I would be stoked on a dark materials video. Loved the series.

[@uzetaab]

Agreed. It's a hidden gem and deserves a wider audience.

[@woodycarlton8743]

Roku Spiderwick was actually really good. The characters were aged up to high school and had a heavy mental health story. The actors were all great. I recommend seeking it out.

[@Mars0_0mallow]

I was looking for this comment I can't believe it only had a 5.2 rating. I haven't gotten far and I broke my TV and haven't replaced it yet so it's on pause for me rn but what I've seen has been really good

[@GaryDowns-n5v]

Ts is actually good

[@HopesBoomerang]

If you're gonna age up and racebend all the characters just write your own story at that point lol

[@GrAlien123]

What happened to them? Terrible Screenwriters. Terrible Casting directors. Terrible producers & directors. Most importantly a lack of respect and love for the original work, which can make even otherwise competent people terrible choices. As can easily be seen with failures like The Rings Of Power and The Wheel of Time. Time might be an issue for very complex adult fantasy, but stuff like Eragon fits easily enough into a movie timeslot. Series have issues with their budgets, something more time can only rarely make up for and neither more time nor more budget help when someone decides to change important plot points for no reason or is more concerned with DEI instead of good storytelling.

[@Setsuna-omokage]

'Inkheart' was a favourite book of mine as a tween. My late grandfather bought me Cornelia Funke's 'Dragon Rider' in 7th std. It came with this beautiful cartological marvel of a foldabls map in the middle. I used to love to revisit book. Good times. Now I'm 25. Ahhh, how time flies ⏳...

[@misswonnykins9841]

I feel like Artemis Fowl needs to be here. Disney did it so dirty that they absolutely sunk the franchise for a good long time. A TV series would be far more beneficial to tell its story, but given how relatively recently the failed movie came out it could be a while before we see anything about an Artemis Fowl show.

[@GannerRhysode]

Wait. They made an Artemis Fowl movie?

[@jordanholloman5907]

@@GannerRhysode We don't talk about that disaster.

[@tamaramcrae4037]

“I am number 4” was pretty good, the ending left us thinking another movie would happen

[@PsychedelicDude]

One of the failed franchises that hurt me the most was Netflix's Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. I don't know if it was faithful to the books, but i really loved it.

[@mariposa9506]

Me too 😊

[@AdornamentDesigns]

I loved that one, too!

[@ryandabian2982]

I think that one was a co-production between the BBC and Netflix. If I'm not mistaken, BBC didn't want to continue with the show and Netflix didn't want to pick up the slack on its own, so it got cancelled. Similar to what happened to Anne with an E.

[@urielaceves1924]

Don’t quote me. But I remember that Douglas Adams died rather untimely, and left the third book unfinished. There was already not a lot of material to keep going

[@fredericapanon207]

​​@@urielaceves1924 yes, I remember being very sad when I learned that Douglas Adams had died of pneumonia.

[@amberlrodriguez]

loved this video! very well done

[@gokusondbz]

The Golden Compass wasn't that Bad😢 But His Dark Materials is a Masterpiece ❤

[@nickk6518]

I totally agree. Co-financed by HBO, it was commissioned by the BBC and made in Wales and Philip Pulman was an executive producer, I believe. I am sure he must have had a part in keeping the television series far closer to his novels, complete with all the atheist content and the joy of all the souls lost in Purgatory finally released back to the stars - because we are all made of star dust. Quite apart from anything else, the effects were astonishing and never outshone the narrative. A rare triumph for the BBC these days.

[@ShaneWroe]

The golden compass is fantastic!! And unpopular though it is...opinion? I love the live action version of the last Airbender. Epic and awesome!! Yes before you start hating... I love the series too, we own that series and korra

[@gokusondbz]

@@ShaneWroe I've Never Seen Avatar The Last Airbender.

[@elijahadediran4756]

​@@gokusondbz dang, 11/10 recommend

[@kieranconway7699]

One of the only trilogy of books I have repeatedly enjoyed deep into adult life. Masterpiece is a very suiting description indeed!

[@karolinepedersen6037]

It's sad Eragon didn't make it, bc the books is still popular and people love them

[@river6634]

These days it is considered middling. I enjoyed it for what it was.

[@j.6380]

I’m surprised to see *I am Number Four* didn’t make the list

[@RockyRZ]

You mean divergent?????

[@heyitsjazzi]

Omg I loved that movie as a kid- you've made me wanna find and watch it again now I'm an adult, wonder if I'll think it's awful now 👀😭💀

[@heyitsjazzi]

@@RockyRZno they mean I am number four 💀

[@calyco2381]

​@@RockyRZi am number four and Divergent are 2 different movies. Divergent still got sequel - Allegiant. While i'm no 4 is not.

[@janismuzikants9320]

@@calyco2381 actually it got 2 sequels. Insurgent and Allegiant. Allegiant was supposed to be divided in 2 parts but the 2nd part of it didn't make it..

[@Fall0utC0bra111]

The first video of yours o watched, you said grab a snack, while I was getting settled in to some breakfast biscuits. Instantly subscribed lol