WHY MERCEDES W211 is LOVED and W212 is HATED? ALL Problems of W211 and W212 E class

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Development of W211 cost Mercedes 2 Billion USD but Mercedes W212 cost 3 billion and nothing new was introduced to the automotive world

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@iam_abiose7195 Жыл бұрын

As a Nigerian, owning a W211 was the beginning of my endless love for Merc. It is a beast ❤a 🇳🇬

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

congrats ) what kind of w211 you have ?

@shedokoye8314 Жыл бұрын

Who says that E212 is hated? That's a very misleading statement on KZbin. Where's the survey that supports that?. As someone who had owned W211 and later W212. I can tell you that there's no comparison when it comes to reliability, fuel efficiency, HP etc between the two. W212 is much better than W211 any day!

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

quility of materials is bad in w212

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

Just got w212 E220 estate for £4k @ 109k fully serviced. Seen a few bad ones, this was bang on the money. Sold my w211 & got the w212 than the w213. Simply the w212 was better to drive over rough roads & more solid build quality. Champane motoring for lemonade money. ❤🎉❤

@questionyourself718 4 ай бұрын

@@snggarageeng its honestly not. Might be not as good as older mercs but still solid. Way better than alot of its competition at that time.

@farkumaxis9064 3 ай бұрын

@@snggarageeng for me w212 is way better than 211 ..... i do own, w115,108, 116,123,124, 202, 210,211,212,213 .... i stop new merc after 213, i still keep my 212 as daily.

@maxxbenzz7842 Ай бұрын

W212 is a garbage wagon. W211 is the last of the great E class.

@MOTOUK1 Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t disagree more I think the W212 was a better looking car than W211, in my opinion W212 is the best car or one of them ever made

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

what do you think about interior ?

@MOTOUK1 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng both nice but prefer the W212

@joedennehy386 Жыл бұрын

I agree

@shawna7813 Жыл бұрын

No way. 211 is by far the more aesthetically pleasing car. 212 is more durable..

@sekiz9079 Жыл бұрын

W211 is the best looking e classe ever made

@willshaw24 Жыл бұрын

We have a w211 and a face-lift 212, the 212 is by far a more active car and more reliable especially suspension wise but the 211 is I'm my eyes the very last of the true mercedes brand

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

agree w211 has this magic

@Sam-j4p1t 2 ай бұрын

The real reliable Mercedes beast was the w124 but the new ones are pretty good and reliable too.

@JamesTheRealSpeaker3.0_ 26 күн бұрын

I have a 2003 W211 and a 2010 pre-facelift w212, and I agree. The w212 is a phenomenal car to drive, but doesn't have quite the same feel. Unfortunately they started cheapening the front dash.

@the8419 14 күн бұрын

@@Sam-j4p1tthey aren’t. The W212 was nothing special, but a far better car than anything that came after

@inverterville Жыл бұрын

I have at present a W212 coming from a W211 and my take on it is they are both great cars but for me the W212 has the edge. I love driving it and it has been faultless. Its been with me now for 8 years and no intention of changing. In the right spec and the color combo they are a very attractive car.

@stormrider01 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, the reliability of the w212 is better. We had a w211 before and problems were: shock absorbers and puch rods were dead, also the interior plastic was getting too soft and gets white or blue with time, also the headlights were yellow.

@inverterville 8 ай бұрын

I did hear that before. I was lucky enough to be able to garage my car so very little fading it was also the E320 and the engine was as sweet as as a nut, but to say the w211 is loved and the W212 hated is nonsense @@stormrider01

@the8419 14 күн бұрын

Although it’s a matter of opinion and taste, the W212 has a numb and generic driving feel and experience.. while the W211 has many of the traditional characteristics associated with MB in the past in regards to road feel and dynamics. The W212 may be more toss-able, but definitely less engaging to drive than the W211. The W211 is more of a “driver’s car.” The W211 build and material quality is also much better, but that’s a completely different matter..

@Allisbuttoys Жыл бұрын

Very relieved to hear someone agree with my thoughts. I was shocked the first time I saw the W212 interior - it looked like a Japanese car interior, especially around the radio unit. Also the beautiful curves of the W211 were gone. I have two identical w211's with cream interiors on travertine beige exteriors. I'm hoping these will last another 20 years.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

what engiens you have ?

@encinobalboa Жыл бұрын

Two identical W211's gets thumbs up from this W210 owner. IMO, W211 exterior is more modern but I like W210 interior better. I also like W210's mechanical simplicity which means less to go wrong. SBC and Airmatic are problems.

@TrondEilertsen 7 ай бұрын

❤

@Allisbuttoys 4 ай бұрын

@@snggarageeng Both are E320.

@vintagehaynesflute Жыл бұрын

I couldn’t disagree more! I had two 211’s and they were so bad that I almost didn’t buy another Mercedes. In the shop constantly and not fir a day or two but the E320 BlueTec was on the shop for months at a time. The E550 wasn’t quite as bad but still not a good car. I’ve had 2 W212s and they’ve been a joy. The first one reached 150,000 miles with no issues. My current 2016 E350 4matic is one of the best cars I’ve ever owned. It’s comfortable, bank vault quiet and never a problem. You can keep fhe 211s. I think that they’re terrible!

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

well sir w211 is not as relible as w212 i do agree there but interior and look of w211 is much better . do you agree ?

@hecticdangpop69 Жыл бұрын

Agree but 550 is all real leather no cracks like 350 leather quality

@joedennehy386 Жыл бұрын

@@hecticdangpop69I have the e 350 w212 avantgarde and it has real leather

@sStratoNP Жыл бұрын

I have w211 with 320cdi one of the best engines ever made... 400k km behind and still in perfect shape

@vintagehaynesflute Жыл бұрын

@@sStratoNP the CDI models before 2007 yes. The Bluetec engines after 2006 were horrible.

@VIGILANT_ELITE Жыл бұрын

I have a W211 E350 4matic, from 2008 and is the Best Benz EVER and the last true Mercedes ☝️

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

did you change oil in dif ?

@VIGILANT_ELITE Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng yes, why?

@Meteor551 11 ай бұрын

W211 has a perfection that no other car has in terms of headlights and interior and exterior door design, but the interior design of W212 is not eye-catching at all, they have simplified it very much, facelift models are like a jeweler's car.

@damian-795 10 ай бұрын

yes, it has beautiful curves, as I say , it looks like a proper Merc. The w212 is generic and looks like many other cars

@gangadharmore3642 Жыл бұрын

I have W211 E200 Kompressor,. It is not the car it is rocket on the road... Looking at the car is like treat..... It is evergreen masterpiece of Mercedes Benz.. proud ownership.....

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

happy for you ) what color it is ?

@gangadharmore3642 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng its Calcite White

@ohyeahbabyitson 3 ай бұрын

I'm an American who loves cars. W211 for me, hands down! I own an 07 E350. It definitely feels more luxurious and classy. It's a classic!

@snggarageeng 3 ай бұрын

nice ! what color do you have?

@ohyeahbabyitson 3 ай бұрын

Brilliant Silver. Just turned to 100,000 miles.

@SpaceGhost943 Жыл бұрын

I have both of these cars. The W212 is a better car overall. The W211 *feels* like a good luxury sedan. The W212 *feels* like a luxury sport car. They handle totally different. Edited: I notice you said that it has heavier handling. I also had a C-Class 2004. The handling was just as tight. I love that about this generation of Mercedes.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you for camment , tell me more about your C class . What engine you had ?

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

@ek3310 10 ай бұрын

CORDIAL SALUDO , LE AGRADEZCO SU EXPERIENCIA Y CONOCIMIENTO Y SI POR FAVOR ME PUEDE ACONSEJAR, QUIERO COMPRAR UN MERCEDES-BENZ 2008 W211 E200 KOMPRESSOR 1.8L 184HP , TRANSMISIÓN AUTOMÁTICA DE 5 CAMBIOS, CON 90.000 KILÓMETROS , SON CONFIABLES , DURADEROS , ESE MOTOR KOMPRESSOR ES CONFIABLE , LE AGRADEZCO SU RESPUESTA , SALUDOS DESDE BOGOTA COLOMBIA.

@richardremington9554 4 ай бұрын

I had both, 2011 more luxury, and I like the heavier feel of the steering

@the8419 14 күн бұрын

The W212 is not a better car overall, but if you base it on handling and ride.. then it’s pure opinion. The w212 has a numb and generic driving experience. The W211 has the traditional MB feel and characteristics. They’re both about as comfortable though

@Michael.Chapman Жыл бұрын

08:45. I’m curious… you compared the W211 E350 to the W212 E350. Was the W211 an Elegance or an AvantGarde edition? My W211 E350 AvantGarde comes with lowered ‘sports suspension’ that maybe trades off ride quality compared to the Elegance version but have not driven an Elegance. My M-B experience started with owning a W124 300E 1986. I had the suspension overhauled and shocks replaced, and the ride of the old 300E was sublime, perfect-no other car I’ve driven comes close, and handling was pretty good too. Anyway, I certainly agree that after 8 years of ownership, the W211 E350 AG is a heck of a safe, pleasing place to relax and enjoy, faced with any road conditions.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

w211 in any trim is great , and w212 in any trim is not . i drove once w124 i think it was E220 and i agree with you on ride quality , it was something special .my butt cheecks still remember it )

@Michael.Chapman Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng thank you for your valuable experience on the W212. My W211 E350 is in great condition with just over 100,000 km. I’m kind of inclined to hang onto it given the comprehensive maintenance I’ve always done. What is it about the W212 that you’d most say just can’t equal the W211?

@evinchester7820 7 ай бұрын

I own a 2006 E320 CDI. I have over 300,000 miles on it. If I set the cruise control to 55 MPH, I can get around 57.6 MPG. If I set the speed to 80 MPH I get around 40 MPG. Love it.

@takumifujiwara3066 3 ай бұрын

That's alot and here i thought my Mercedes e320 2004 that has 255k kilometer is alot

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

@robbienyc3102 Жыл бұрын

I miss my w211 e320 Cdi ...heavy car, but one of the best cars I have owned.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

agree )

@TheoSmith249 Жыл бұрын

..still have mine, at 377,000 kilometres.

@robbienyc3102 Жыл бұрын

@@TheoSmith249 keep enjoying that beast.

@OlumideBewaji Жыл бұрын

As much as i will like to agree with you W211 has major issues. I used the pre facelift E500 for 10 years driven over 250k kilometers. The performance was excellent but when you face issues with SBC and Airmatic - that will change your perception. The facelift version solved most of the problem but came with M273 (i wish Mercedes used M113 for the facelift version). As for W212, that's the best so far - at least in my 30years experience with E Class. Your view on W212 is based on your experience with the cheaper sub-models. The top end once with AMG package are in a different class. I have used W212 for 6 years now with the M278 engine (too much power). Its much better than W211. My favorite is still W124.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

W124 is the best , even with small engiens it felt perfect

@shawna7813 Жыл бұрын

M273 is a very reliable engine. I've seen a few with almost 400K, still running strong with no major work done to the engine. Its more reliable than the m156 in E63's. History will show its every bit as durable as an M113, its just not as mod friendly...

@the8419 14 күн бұрын

You’re not well informed. SBC was updated and the replacement units don’t have those issues. Airmatic is also available on the W212, so that’s the same for both. It’s not an unreliable system, but just adds complexity

@GUG3X Жыл бұрын

I had W211 E 500 and W210 These two cars were best cars I have ever had

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

wow how for how long did you have it ?

@tomgjeka7028 Жыл бұрын

I own a w211 e220cdi from 2005 for 14 years now, and it currently has 460k km. Man, I have abused this car so much that i have broken 5 power steering pumps while doing donuts 🤣. Aside from that and the sbc being replaced free of charge, this car delivers every day.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

do you have airsuspesion ? what transmission you have 5G of 7G ?

@tomgjeka7028 Жыл бұрын

@SNG Garage Eng standart classic level suspension, which proved to be a lot better than the sagging suspension on the Elegance and Avantgarde levels. Transmission is 5G as it is a late 05 model.

@considered3877 Жыл бұрын

I hear you brother. My 2004 E240 is about to hit 400k. Have had since new. Had an 2014 250d X218 Shooting brake, gave it away, hated it. A 2016 350d GL, gave that away. Absolutely love the W211. Approaching 20 years, 400k km, runs like new. Bulletproof class.

@JerryNick-q1f Жыл бұрын

I just ran into a review that expresses my exact feeling and experience driving both cars. I currently own the W211 E550, and my wife owns a W212 E550. My personal feeling is that the W211 is a man’s car, and the W212 appeal to women. Don’t get all in your feelings about that statement. Fact is whenever I drive the W212, I feel no connection to the car. It is just boring. The interior feels cheap. The wood trim in the W212 faded soon after we got it. The steering wheel controls started pealing off, and the Lane Keep Assist feature is completely annoying; This review is spot on. The w211 has a “soul”; you can feel it. I experience it. I smile whenever I am going anywhere with my W211. If you have a W211 or is considering one, I suggest replacing the radio with a aftermarket (Pioneer, Kenwood, etc.) double din radio with Apple Car Play or Android Auto, reverse camera, and boom you have leaped forward to 2023. Make sure you use a reputable installer. Ask you Mercedes dealer to recommend someone.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you fro comment ) When i was working as salesman in Dubai i often saw w212 owneres were girls ) . Where are you from ? what engien you have in your w211 ?

@totome2206 2 ай бұрын

W212 pre-facelift is THE most gorgeous estate car ever. W211 is much less appealing in my opinion

@chrisg7945 7 ай бұрын

I love my 07 e550. definitely the rarest w211 and has a naturally aspirated v8 5.5 liter with around 385 hp and about the same amount of tq. keeps up with e55 and e63 to 60 and has all the luxury. its a sleeper for sure. just had to replace the air suspension with coilovers.

@kaomatollo 10 ай бұрын

W212 Is my all-time favourite, especially the 2014 E63 S AMG

@hassanamghar3031 5 ай бұрын

I just bought a 2008 E320CDI avantgarde with almost full options (No solor panels) with only 116K km from the first owner I think I will never sell that car!

@snggarageeng 5 ай бұрын

thank you for commenting

@okeyobowu 17 күн бұрын

The looks of the w211 is magic, this car will be stunning forever. It is the end of Mercedes benz.

@paulstefan357 Жыл бұрын

In my opinion W212 facelift is the most beautuful E classe ever

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

agree looks very nice , on B was s[pend on it

@the8419 14 күн бұрын

Not even close

@paulstefan357 13 күн бұрын

@@the8419 argue

@the8419 13 күн бұрын

@@paulstefan357 The W212 has a generic over-styled “Asian car” appearance which will eventually look dated and unfavorable. The W211 is timeless, elegant and understated, which will be seen as a beautiful car many years from now

@paulstefan357 13 күн бұрын

@@the8419 that is your opinion...but its shit what you say

@rleslie845 8 ай бұрын

Love my 2005 W211 CDI. 275K miles, and still runs great.

@markamd1 Ай бұрын

The W211 is the last true Merc made on planet earth, and the W212 is the beginning of the end of Merc quality & design.

@salman13 2 ай бұрын

211 for the look. 212 for the performance.

@snggarageeng 2 ай бұрын

agree , w212 is much more active

@mangalafonseka8716 Жыл бұрын

Disagree Big time, I had W211 and now I have a W212. W212 has better build quality, faster transmission, Better grunt and better interior. Mostly a better engine with better performance. Your comment section says it all.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

interior is crap ! everythign else i agree with you !

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

@ReidHealth Жыл бұрын

I agree with everything you said. i have an E500 W211, and it is so much nicer than the w212. I have a pre facelift but no problem with the air suspension at all. Such a feeling of quality compared to 212. Great review and video cheers

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

what is your milage ? and where do you live ? you are first person who told me that he has no problems with air suspension .

@bleachstain9785 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageengI live in Minnesota, my pre-facelift 211 500 held onto its factory Airmatic struts up until the 170,000 mile mark (about 274,000 km). Factory compressors still work, factory lines and fittings are all still installed. It took literally 20 years and over a quarter million kilometers for a single Airmatic strut to fail on my 211, and that’s in an area notorious for rust and heavily salted winter roads. I strongly suspect earlier failures had more to do with severe heat wearing rubber seals down, or user error (meaning people were doing wild stuff in their 211’s that the struts just weren’t rated for).

@browse_cars Жыл бұрын

I Have Facelift W212 E63s AMG, and W211 comparing to W212 is trash. Dont say that W212 doesn’t have a soul, you just have never driven W212 E63S. W212 E63S is a Beast!

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

watch my channel i drove few of them , your engien is 5.5 twin turbo ? What do you think about interior ?

@Hachimichima 9 ай бұрын

Pre-facelift W211 Avantgarde 320/350/500 with little spoiler lip on trunk, black interior with heated memory seat, sunroof, airmatic….👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

@calebadeleye 4 ай бұрын

until i drive a W212...but to be sincere there is something supernatural about W211..it speaks to your soul when you drive it

@snggarageeng 4 ай бұрын

totally agree with you sir

@radheshetti5892 Жыл бұрын

W211 e220 cdi elegance 2009 is the ultimate sedan in terms of luxury comfort driving pleasure the feel of richness the best Mercedes has ever produced until 2023

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

what milage you have ?

@gregorychery9770 Ай бұрын

I 💯 percent agree with you, w211 is a better car than the w212, it felt more luxurious when driving and looked much better..

@snggarageeng 24 күн бұрын

thank you

@Investorpotamus 3 ай бұрын

211 was insane. 15 hours straight from Budapest to the French coast and I got out like it was a 5 minute drive. I used to tell people that the worst thing about the car was it just wouldn't die... if anything it was just getting better. I get my A207 I appreciate not a W212) next week and am looking forward to it.

@snggarageeng 3 ай бұрын

what engine you had in w211 ?

@aomar9449 Жыл бұрын

Lot of bias in this video, I love them both and more partial to the W211 but the W212 is an excellent vehicle and a great value proposition. It feels more substantial and more luxurious than the W211, also very reliable for a modern day luxury car. However. it doesn't feel as solid or well built as the W211. The W211, although well proportioned and great looking, feels dated by now, especially the pre- facelift models.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

agree . what do you think about w204 ?

@aomar9449 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng They're great cars, I prefer the facelift 2012+ models the most. Not crazy about the interior on the early models, very cheap for an MB.

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

@joedennehy386 Жыл бұрын

I couldn't disagree more. My w 212 e 350 avantgarde is superb.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

do you like interior ? as car for driving fast it is very intersting

@nelsonjeremias2047 Жыл бұрын

i had 2007 e350, it was a dream, very nice and smooth except that "272" engine problems, now i have E250 of 2012, m271 avantgarde, man this is much better that my previous merc.

@nelsonjeremias2047 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng ur right that 211 had its uniqueness in looking, coming to w212 it starts to look like most modern car models, that Mercedes identity begun to get lost from there, like even merging headlight on facelift models to date, that made e class loose its true identity, i guarantee you, split lights will come back in future, just like iphone 5 style coming back in iphone 12 going forward

@moniershebeika3610 3 ай бұрын

I'm driving W211/ 220cdi... 2007.. 470tkm.. without major problems.. Best car ever..!

@snggarageeng 3 ай бұрын

very glad for you sir , thank you for watching

@nubiankg323 7 ай бұрын

I've owned a 05 E500, 09 E550 and now a 13 E550. I love both my W211s but the W212 is better! The V8 with Biturbo is faster and the all wheel drive 4matic drives better. All are great cars, w211 is luxury and the w212 is luxury/sport!

@snggarageeng 6 ай бұрын

thank you for watching

@Chris-ny3me Ай бұрын

I owned a 2008 E320 Bluetec diesel. Loved it, but was tempted and traded it for a 2012 E350 W212 with only 21K km. Great car but never got excited about driving it. I missed the nearly 400 ft lb of torque to the rear wheels. I sold it and looked for three years for another similar W211 (quite rare). I finally found a 2009 Avantgarde edition E320 Bluetec diesel RWD…another monster and in amazing shape. I installed a pioneer stereo with CarPlay et voila, a modern highway monster! Love the classic exterior and feel of this car, and of course, that awesome torque.

@joeimbesi99 24 күн бұрын

Had 2005 w211 e350 Fabulous.Sydney to Melbiurne and back EASY,Comfy,no air suso, reliable but Crankshaft position sensor needed replacing reasonably cheap. Was cutting out or no start .After cooling would restart , replacing the valve cured it. ULTRA RELIABLE ,SOLID,POWERFUL.apart from the common merc CPSensor as oil drops on it over many years.

@MrKlo-so8tj Жыл бұрын

My w211 just made 180,000 miles and still drives perfect

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

waht engine you have ?

@MrKlo-so8tj Жыл бұрын

M113 5.0, I suggest replacing the motor and tranny mounts and changing the fluids on a routine interval because these types of engines are self-restored and will take care of you, as so far as you take care of it. One of the best pieces of engineering today.

@shawna7813 Жыл бұрын

I've got 231K and still running strong, and that's on an 06 V6 with the dreaded balance shaft fears...

@MrKlo-so8tj Жыл бұрын

@Shawn A I just hit 190,000 miles last week brother, still strong!!!!!

@shawna7813 Жыл бұрын

@@MrKlo-so8tj That's nothing on an M113. I use Liqui Moly Ceratec for added wear protection. Makes the engine smoother, quieter, and just plain feel alot newer. Its a big part of the reason my engine is still running strong despite the mileage...

@audriusbaranauskas6227 Жыл бұрын

In the front W211 has a double wishbone suspension, w212 has the macpherson suspension. In the back they both have multilink setup. I prefer the driving feel of the w211, still drives like the old school mercedes.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

agree

@maanshaheen 9 ай бұрын

Are the 7G gearbox in w212 E350 2012 not good ?

@snggarageeng 8 ай бұрын

if it was maintained , it is ok

@ivanbasanta 4 ай бұрын

I have a W211 and I think it is the best car ever built, every time I come across one my eyes go out, the AMG E 63 version is a collector's car. My w211 already has 545,000 km, and has never had a problem. They don't make cars like that anymore, not Mercedes or anything...

@snggarageeng 4 ай бұрын

500k is insane! what engine you have? what transmission ?

@ivanbasanta 4 ай бұрын

@@snggarageeng 220 cdi manual transmission

@AAQI0504 5 ай бұрын

I have a 2003 E500, the ride is amazing, enough power when needed. Downside, I replaced the air suspension with regular shocks, it feels the same, and some issues with the battery drainage which was easily fixed. Overall 9.0

@snggarageeng 5 ай бұрын

do you know anybody that pu w212 air suspension n to w211?

@o.b.aoyinloye2591 4 ай бұрын

How did you fix the battery drain

@San-uu7qc Жыл бұрын

I had them both but the 212.. the costs of fuel were very high compared to the 211 (e200 kompressor and e200 cgi) Also the 211 felt more relaxed to drive in

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you for watching

@ek3310 10 ай бұрын

CORDIAL SALUDO , LE AGRADEZCO SU CONSEJO Y EXPERIENCIA, QUIERO COMPRAR UN MERCEDES-BENZ 2008 E200 KOMPRESSOR 1.8 184HP TRANSMISIÓN AUTOMÁTICA DE 5 CAMBIOS, CON 90.000 KILÓMETROS, SON CONFIABLES, DURADEROS, ECONÓMICOS EN CONSUMOS DE GASOLINA, ESTOS MOTORES KOMPRESSOR TIENEN UNA VIDA UTIL CONFIABLE ???? LE AGRADEZCO SU RESPUESTA , SALUDOS DESDE BOGOTA COLOMBIA.

@San-uu7qc 10 ай бұрын

@@ek3310 Yes you can.. i hope you're buying the facelift without the sbc pump.

@howinyee5962 Жыл бұрын

Facelift W211 Yes. Prefacelift W211 No, as it was proven to be quite problematic with rust issues and SBC Braking system (I lost braking in the mountains). I had the 2005 E320 and it wasnt good. I now have 2009 E350 AMG Sport Package and its better in every way. Stay away from 2006 and 2007 W211 as they have balance shaft issues. Do your research

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

omg what happed to you in mountains ?

@chanjasonsk Жыл бұрын

What’s a balance shaft

@shawna7813 Жыл бұрын

It's a large sprocket which has a chain rotating on it. It controls vibration on the V6 M272's in prefacelift W211's, mainly 06. Similar to a timing chain set up. Mercedes sourced the wrong metal for some of the sprockets, the metal was too weak and caused the teeth on the sprockets to wear out prematurely...within as little as 40K miles. It's a 5-6k engine out repair which should have been covered under recall but largely isn't. Most of them fortunately don't have the defect, but its prevalent enough...

@bleachstain9785 Жыл бұрын

When my SBC went, I just took it to Mercedes for their 25 year/unlimited mile warranty. Replaced it for me free of charge and I was back on the road in my Benz the next week. As for the rust issues, I’ve had every panel under my 03’ out and the rear quarter panel is the only spot with any rust, and this car has been a Minnesota car it’s whole life. So, I’m still unsure about the rust comment, maybe in neglected cars or ones parked for extended periods, but the two issues you listed are very easily rectified. The bigger glaring issue for W211’s is dumping their rear subframe by snapping off the mounting bolts in their mounting bosses (a job that requires cutting open the frame to access the retaining nut). However, an easy out set and a new OEM bolt managed to fix mine when it did so, so it could be easy, could be a nightmare.

@damian-795 10 ай бұрын

I have pre face lift late 2005 in UK. There is no rust on it at all and they are not known for rust , the bad time for rust on mercs was from 1998-2002. My car has done 160k and SBC still going strong. In past 7 years its needed nothing apart from springs all round, it never fails me. An SBC failure has never been reported, the brake issue in the mountains must have been a maintenance problem.

@SheerMagnetismDarling007 Жыл бұрын

You have told the 100% truth here. I think since the w211 , Mercedes have really failed the E Class buyers

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you for watching

@petercolley9065 11 ай бұрын

At last some one with good 20/20 vision not wearing rose tinted specs

@alpzepta Жыл бұрын

W211 is more affordable for a college like me. I have to drive to university and work everyday so I will need really a nice car. I’m sick of my new 2015 Hyundai Sonata not only it’s boring but new registration cost more and maintenance cost a little more than older Mercedes-Benz too since it use complicated computer for the engine on a Hyundai.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you for you comment . Where are you from ????

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

Kia Sorento or w212. Both are cheap to run & fantastic reliable.

@petercolley9065 11 ай бұрын

Well it's the w211 2.7cdi for me love the sound of the 5 cylinder engine and its economy its not fast but so comfortable and reliable. And you don't really have to drive it fast to appreciate its fine quality. On the motorway it will cruise at high speed for hours and I still feel relaxed when I arrive. Good job done Mercedes ❤ 😊

@isaactchaprazian10 Жыл бұрын

W212 any day. Best E-Class ever made in my opinion. Still a beast on the streets today in 2023.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you for watching . what engine you have ?

@pamelawertz498 8 ай бұрын

I have driven many thousands of miles in my 3 E class wagons. 2002, 2006 and 2012. The suspension improved with each revision. Gas mileage got worse going from the 3.2 to 3.5 V6 with only a slight increase in power, still having a 5 speed automatic. The direct injection 3.5 in the 2012 is noticeably more powerful than before with a smoothness at high rpm than the previous 3.5. With a 7 speed, gas mileage is better than either the w210 or the w211 by at least 10%. The one thing better in the w211 was the leather upholstery. The newer leather doesn't have the smell or feel of the w211 interior. Overall, the w212 is a better car.

@pk3m3 8 ай бұрын

I've driven 212 decent amount of miles too and have 211 now, 212 from mechanical standpoint is better car for sure but 211 wagon exterior and specially interior is a lot better and feels like quality mercedes should feel. Exterior is arguable to lots of people, 212 exterior is beautiful too but interior just can't hold candle to 211 and that was difference maker to me because I do drive a lot.

@obuilemangundu81 Ай бұрын

W211 is the best i have a 2002 E240! with 247000km still drives like new❤️

@francisdavis1039 9 ай бұрын

I have a custom white W212 E350 Sport for 5 years now and by far my favorite Mercedes Benz. The body lines the reliability the speed is just enough to have fun but not kill yourself. I will always have a W212 Mercedes Benz.

@nova_squad_bossx1818 Жыл бұрын

Also have u drove the m157 e63s version 4matic that one will change ur mind if its running right

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

i did not dirve e63s only e63

@jianliu7516 11 ай бұрын

I have W211, 2005 E500. Only 170000 miles now. It burn a lot of oil, every 500 miles needs to add 1 quart 0W-40 oil. And the SBC system failed one time that almost kill me because it lost brake power when driving on the street. And the air suspention are stupid design that easy to fail. Other than that it is very beautiful car.

@thomashay5270 Жыл бұрын

I have to agree, had a 2004 and 2005 e class and a 2014 e class. The W211 rides better where the w212 crashes more over rough roads, allowing thuds and shakes into the cabin that a W211 never would. The electric steering of the W212 is way too light and lifeless. W211 brakes more progressive. The w211 5g even switches gear more smoothly than the 7g. For me W211 wins on all fronts apart from technology in the car with no Bluetooth, DAB and sat nav. No doubt the W212 is also faster. And the w212 dashboard could come straight from a Ford or Vauxhall, you could never say that about a w211

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

dashboard comment got me ahahahahah

@roziroslan7891 4 ай бұрын

I think u r the only one who said w212 is ugly n low quality than w211! Your eyes must be tweaked or something! W212 never being hated ,in fact among the.most beautifully design E class so far! W211 is the one already aging n look boring n from the past. ....

@snggarageeng 4 ай бұрын

thank you for comment . I do agree that w211 is aging much faster than w212 , but i do like facelift version of W212

@i.a.s.8889 10 ай бұрын

I search to buy in 2023 in month of august , and finally I bought this E280 petrol 2008 model Mercedes w211 E280 I love this car

@snggarageeng 6 ай бұрын

thank you for watching

@タケヨシ-z4s 8 ай бұрын

私も、W211オーナーです！ W211の美しい、流れるようなデザインは、歴代のEクラスの中でも、最高なフォルムだと思っています。また、Eクラスの中で、最も白色が似合うのも、W211だと思っています。私の211は、E320をE55仕様に改造したものです。 2024年の現在でも、MercedesBENZ Eクラスの、W211が最高だと思っていますｗ動画には、高評価をつけさせて頂きますｗ

@snggarageeng 8 ай бұрын

Origato gozaimasu ! i greew up in Chibaken but forgot Japanese. Thank you for watching ! i am very happy that i have Japanese viewers

@タケヨシ-z4s 8 ай бұрын

@@snggarageeng san!(≧▽≦)千葉県で育ったんですね！私も、生まれも育ちも千葉県なので、嬉しいですーーーー！チャンネル登録させて頂きます(^_-)-☆

@BenjaminMukwaira 5 күн бұрын

Noways 124 was the last real e class. From 210 the crown was lost for profits.

@ExAnimoPortugal 13 күн бұрын

I have a slight disagreement. W124 is the best E Class. May not be the best looking, but it's the best built.

@michaelhall4798 23 күн бұрын

ive had a w212 and i loved it.i never had any problems with it

@roshroy23 2 ай бұрын

Actually I only heard good things about the W212. They even say its the spiritual successor to the W124.

@chazmuska 4 ай бұрын

No way, W212 looks way better. And w211 is 5 speed not 7:speed like the w212.

@snggarageeng 4 ай бұрын

agree

@azcrossplane 2 ай бұрын

I love my W212 AMG.....❤. A reliable car for many2 years now

@edawgfigatron Жыл бұрын

Excellent video sir! I have a w211 e350 4matic facelift. And I've been thinking a lot lately about if I should get a w212 or a different w211. I Honestly think the w211 look way more sexy and executive like. This video just made up my mind. Im going for a 2009 e550 w211. Thank you

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you for such good words

@catpaintypo8869 Ай бұрын

Mercedes reacted to the poor reception and reaction to the W212 which had developed a reputation for poor quality and unreliability. The W212 was a big improvement. You are the only KZbin channel saying differently.

@billyhoyle8373 8 ай бұрын

I agree, loving my w211 every time I drive it

@philippbehrend5559 4 ай бұрын

I mean....just look at them. The 211 is gorgeous, the 212 is hideous

@snggarageeng 4 ай бұрын

agree

@notmanu3286 Жыл бұрын

I love 212

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

re fresh model is nice

@valilucy9281 Жыл бұрын

E320 EVO Sport packet are the king of roads in Albania.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

Albania is capital of mercedes )

@daniellaszlobrandisz7325 10 ай бұрын

I had every E class since w123. W212 is the best. Its boxy, solid like the w124 but more engaging than any E class apart from the w213.

@snggarageeng 6 ай бұрын

uuuu nice

@stormrider01 8 ай бұрын

W211 might be nicer but w212 does have less problems in every way. And it´s not true that the w212 is cheaper in second hand market than w211. You don´t know, you only speculate and tell your opinions.

@snggarageeng 8 ай бұрын

w212 in my experience was always more reliable. Thank you for watching

@MrBeboopman Жыл бұрын

And the arse of it rusts...🙄 excellent content 👌

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you for watching )

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

@grolfe3210 5 ай бұрын

I had an old W211 and loved it. The W212 by comparison had awful style, no lovely smooth curves but instead a horrid mix of boxy oblongs and sharp jarring angles. When it came time to change the W211 I opted for the C Class instead. Better lookin than the 211 but did not have the classiness. But then in 2016 along came the W213 and Mercedes got back on track. The style is there and the quality is there. We have to accept people do not want polished wood anymore, and Mercedes have done a great job but get the cream interior as the black just looks too dark. For me they have gone too far with the new W214 which is just cheap tec and lots of shiny black plastic. So I am planning to stick with my W213 for ever. My one is six years old and I am 63 years old. I don't do big miles so this one should last as long as me or as long as I am able to drive.

@snggarageeng 5 ай бұрын

thank you sir for you comment! enjoy your W213

@mclaren122 Жыл бұрын

true what you say. I ovn a 320 cdi facelift. elegance. love it. it is fast. it is glued to the road. and when it let go., it do it in a very good way. and with the limit slip you can realy drive up hils in the snow that other can't. but yes. they can be bad. IF you don't keep up with the service. and part in time. I did. so mine has now 260 000 mile, and everything is fine and drive like new, oh my 7g gearbox is just fine. DO not be afraid to use the car. do not baby drive them. use them but not as a race car.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

CDI are immortal

@IntolerableEvil Жыл бұрын

Everyone hates W212? Since when!?

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

since it had bad interior thank you for whatching and comment

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

@waelgalal5808 Жыл бұрын

W212 is a best e class ever made

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

very reliable

@joedennehy386 Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

Magnum is a ice lolly in the uk. Cool name? 😂😅❤

@robbiewu60 5 ай бұрын

W212 is, from what I get from owners, seem more reliable than w211 mechanically, except the engine, where w211's 3.2 v6 is way more reliable. Personally my 2 issues with w212 are the terrible interior quality which also doesn't last, and the paint's orange peel compared to w211 glassy smooth paintjob.

@zkave1899 Жыл бұрын

I would prefer e55 over e63 Its more reliable and faster than the 6.3 V8

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

agree on reliblility but i think it is not faster

@zkave1899 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng the e55 is faster u can just research

@zkave1899 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng and the e55 has only 476hp

@bleachstain9785 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng6.3 has the edge on horsepower, 5.5K has the edge on torque. Torque = acceleration so it stands to reason the 5.5K would be faster as it’s got more torque.

@Scoharr 9 ай бұрын

I think the best E-Class might just be a 2001-2002 W210 E55 AMG or E430

@thepunisher955 Жыл бұрын

my 2005 320cdi just feels better and the cdi has been bullet proof only 2 injectors after 240k km and some glowplugs. but i maintain my car properly i feel the 212 is boring and feels like it belongs in a vauxhall. also Stage1 with 260/600nm is more than enough for me and the 648 is reliable and easy to wrench on Also i built a 124 with 270cdi. i will never go anything newer than 211 . Im only waiting for sbc to go out but there is companys renovating them for 400-500 euro here in EU

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

thank you for watching

@zukied4817 3 ай бұрын

I would go for face lift w211 any time.

@snggarageeng 2 ай бұрын

still looks nice and desirable

@durnbach5589 5 ай бұрын

That the Chrysler 300C and its derivatives like the Charger and Magnum share the same chassis platform as the W211 is a lie. Daimler only provided know-how to Chrysler. Because until then Chrysler only had front wheel drive cars chassis. This accelerated the development of the Chrysler RWD and AWD chassis. There are only two identical parts on the chassis. ABS ring and rear axle unibal.

@snggarageeng 5 ай бұрын

wow thank you sir ! do you have any link to this info ?

@questionyourself718 4 ай бұрын

W212 is not really hated. Kinda clickbait title.

@snggarageeng 3 ай бұрын

in my environment not popular

@seer7327 Жыл бұрын

W211 CDI with OM648. Nothing out there like it.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

CDI is just indestructible

@tafadzwamazire1128 Жыл бұрын

Om648 is the last reliable diesel mb made.

@seer7327 9 ай бұрын

Om648 plus a simple tune will make the w211 E320 a very rare car, somwthing that won't feel slow, will shove you in seats, give excellent fuel economy while still giving you that W211 comfort and satisfaction. There ARE some things that one can do to this package to improve handling.

@tonychavez2083 Жыл бұрын

well said. I have both 211 and 212 - great video

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

ohhh waht engiens you have ?

@tonychavez2083 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng M113K and M156

@StarFyre Ай бұрын

Greetings from Australia! I have an 05 E240 with the 2.6 v6 and so far I really like it, esp the features such as the ambient lightning & the interior door handles that also illuminate. However the steering feels heavy when handling at low speed. Having said that, this is one of the nicest cars I have ever owned, and I stopped counting cars when I hit the magic 150. When I was getting insurance quotes one company wanted AU$2700/yr!! Like wtf. Also, every company I checked said it was a Classic variant but there are Avantgarde markings on the door trim as well as on the gearstick. Anyone have an idea why?

@ek3310 10 ай бұрын

CORDIAL SALUDO LE AGRADEZCO SU EXPERIENCIA Y CONOCIMIENTO ACERCA DE EL MERCEDES-BENZ 2008 E200 KOMPRESSOR 1.8 L 184HP TRANSMISIÓN AUTOMÁTICA DE 5 CAMBIOS. EL MERCEDES-BENZ QUÉ QUIERO COMPRAR TIENE 90.000 KILÓMETROS , CON ÉSTE MOTOR KOMPRESSOR SON CONFIABLES, DURADEROS ???? GRACIAS POR SU RESPUESTA Y CONCEJO , SALUDOS DESDE BOGOTA COLOMBIA.

@pzent7554 8 ай бұрын

Amigo cómprelo, un mercedes con 90000 kilómetros está nuevo!

@encinobalboa Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking early W211 with M113, 722 transmission, coil over conversion, and SBC warranty work is the pick of W211. E55K would be nice but oil pump O-ring will rot away and cause oil pressure problem.

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

first time i heard about oil pressure problems

@bleachstain9785 Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageengcouple people have done tear downs of the M113K engine and have on video located and shown how those fail.

@unknown_4656 2 ай бұрын

couldnt have said more incorrect information? the W212 fixed all problems that the W211 had, and people by far love the W212, the W211 i good, but the W212 is just better. The W212 isnt the start of cheap quality Mercedes cars but it fixed mostly every problem the W211 had. The W212 by far is the Best E class there is and there is no arguing in that.

@gianfrancoa Жыл бұрын

Recently bought a 2009 E350 4Matic and drives very well, Interior feels great and quiet. The Harman Kardon sound system was disappointing. I'm OK with the exterior looks of the W212, and agreed that the interior feels too cheap. Specially because most of them don;t have the wood option

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

what is milage on your w211 ? i dorve w212 with wood option really not much

@gianfrancoa Жыл бұрын

@@snggarageeng 82k KM

@ayeb350 Жыл бұрын

@@gianfrancoa try using a amplifier music app did wonders for my stereo!

@alisameer2007 Жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more .. By the way, I am currently owning 2010 E300 W212. Before that W220 S350. However, when I test driving the W211, I noticed how superior W211 compared to my W212, specifically the interior quality materials and mainly the comfort and luxury feeling while driving the W211.. Now I am planning to upgrade to 2015 E250 or totally change to 2013-528i (N20/BMW) 😅

@snggarageeng Жыл бұрын

i am very interested what will be your opinion on bmw after mercedes

@onkarfreshie3127 11 ай бұрын

@martinsv9183 10 ай бұрын

@@onkarfreshie3127 I've driven in a E350 cdi estate with air suspension. Dont remember what wheels it had. But it was harscher and the ride didnt feel as luxorious as a w211 E280 with regular supension and 16" wheels. Also the w212 has a cheaper feeling interior.

@pablor4362 13 күн бұрын

212 facelift 2014 e350 4matic … is definitly better than any 211 (excluding amg version … but 212 amg is far better than 211 amg) - it is a matter of generation