Why Minnesota Twins are listening to offers for Pablo Lopez and others

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SKOR North Twins Show -- A Minnesota Twins Podcast

SKOR North Twins Show -- A Minnesota Twins Podcast

Күн бұрын

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@noahwelch2931
@noahwelch2931 Күн бұрын
Max Kepler leaving is lowkey awesome. He was a dead energy vet on this team. His only value to this franchise was taking advantage of the 2019 juiced ball era, reading the ball well off of the right wall at Target Field, and looking pretty for all the ladies in right. Goodbye Max!
@benjames4502
@benjames4502 Күн бұрын
Max Kepler's career WRC is 102, he's two percent above average. Let's be honest, another over hyped Twins player.
@darrinthurston3308
@darrinthurston3308 Күн бұрын
@@benjames4502 And there are people that say he is a no doubt Twins HOFer. I don't think so..
@peytonspehn6291
@peytonspehn6291 Күн бұрын
@@darrinthurston3308who tf is saying that???😂 I haven’t heard no one saying that. Most people I talk to agree he’s pretty much an average player
@darrinthurston3308
@darrinthurston3308 Күн бұрын
@@peytonspehn6291 twitter mourning him
@ilikesteak65
@ilikesteak65 Күн бұрын
From 2016-24, Kepler ranked first in baseball among right fielders with 57 Outs Above Average. He ranks fourth in Defensive Runs Saved, according to FanGraph
@robertharrie4513
@robertharrie4513 Күн бұрын
Apparently the A’s need to reach a certain payroll level if they want to move the team. If not they risk a lawsuit by the MLB PA that could block the move. This was reported this morning on Hot Stove
@benjames4502
@benjames4502 Күн бұрын
Don't they also lose draft picks under the last CBA?
@robertharrie4513
@robertharrie4513 Күн бұрын
@ I don’t know. They didn’t mention that
@benjames4502
@benjames4502 Күн бұрын
The MN Twins will have to eat half of Paddick's and Vasquez's contract and include some kind of prospect to trade both or either player.
@benjames4502
@benjames4502 Күн бұрын
On the bright side, Passan is rarely right. Let's face the fact, if "the Fail-vey" gets a great trade offer, Lopez, Correa and Buxton will be moved.
@NathanMuckala-gb7is
@NathanMuckala-gb7is Күн бұрын
New ownership can't get here soon enough!!
@robertharrie4513
@robertharrie4513 Күн бұрын
This wouldn’t be this first time the Twins have traded an ace. They traded Frank Viola and Johann Santana so this wouldn’t surprise me
@joeacker703
@joeacker703 Күн бұрын
Both were pending free agents not signed to team friendly contracts like Pablo. The Twins would be stupid to trade him.
@robertharrie4513
@robertharrie4513 Күн бұрын
@ and your point is? I think the Twins have proven they are intellectually challenged
@NathanMuckala-gb7is
@NathanMuckala-gb7is Күн бұрын
100 loss season if Pablo is traded
@MrRocky27271
@MrRocky27271 Күн бұрын
100 loss season if Pablo is not traded too.
@natebohach1
@natebohach1 Күн бұрын
Pholads are dumb enough to sell off their biggest players that would drop their overall price of the team. Thats fine though, let a new ownership group come in with a clean slate and bring in people they want in a front office and on the field, our farm system isnt the worst either.
@benjames4502
@benjames4502 Күн бұрын
Generally no matter the sport or league there is a player sell off before any sale of a professional team as it reduces liability to the new owners.
@joeacker703
@joeacker703 Күн бұрын
Twins fans have been so conditioned to "rebuild" that I think some of you get excited at the idea of it. This team isn't that far away. There is zero reason to rebuild.
@bradgast3028
@bradgast3028 Күн бұрын
By the time you trade Vazquez you eat $5M, Jeffers/ Camargo is a mess so you go out there in FA & get an inferior catcher for $5M. You gain nothing & have an inferior product, The best route is to go out there & be creative by unloading Dobnak off the top.There's a very good market on Paddack & Jeffers, you go out there & be creative & trade for young promising MLB-ready catchers. IMO Vazquez is more interested in years than $, you extend him 2yrs. for $12M. You save $4M per year on Vazquez. $4.7M on Jeffers You save $3M on Dobnak, & $7.5M on Paddack. Total $19.2M savings. You trade for any small need, you don't trade Correa, Lopez, Castro or any core player. Unlike last year you come up with a better team not worse. Sit & wait isn't being creative.
@rickmeisch643
@rickmeisch643 Күн бұрын
Who do the Twins expect to be in the stands if they trade pitching? That’s what keeps you in the game! Lopez isn’t a number one on other teams so his value won’t get a premier minor leaguer with much potential. A player like Correa would bring more and his age says to do so would be ok and they have Lee to step in and do ok. With a young starter pitching core you need a veteran to hold things from going disastrous for the team.
@edric_munster5531
@edric_munster5531 Күн бұрын
If the club is sold for 1.7 billion, getting rid of 60 million really doesn't make that much difference. > 4%
@christopher.smith537
@christopher.smith537 Күн бұрын
Only way any of this works, is if the value we get back from trading proven assests, ie, draft, prospects, they need to look like the future and give fans something to get excited about. Otherwise, what are we doing?
@markwagner-f9y
@markwagner-f9y Күн бұрын
if there there prospects are so good then use them trade buxton correa a nd pablo
@benjames4502
@benjames4502 Күн бұрын
You trade your three biggest stars after cutting 30 million dollars from payroll the year before and you might as well move the Twins organization from MN.
@HadesZander-q6z
@HadesZander-q6z Күн бұрын
Good Kepler is gone should of been gone two years ago Hopefully Pablo gets traded But I also want Correa gone and Buxton gone let's start it all over
@darrinthurston3308
@darrinthurston3308 Күн бұрын
Kepler should have been traded with Jorge Polanco last offseason. I disagree on starting over. No reason to trade Pablo, Correa or Buxton unless they are just that desperate for money
@ilikesteak65
@ilikesteak65 Күн бұрын
From 2016-24, Kepler ranked first in baseball among right fielders with 57 Outs Above Average. He ranks fourth in Defensive Runs Saved, according to FanGraph
@HadesZander-q6z
@HadesZander-q6z Күн бұрын
@darrinthurston3308 it's not that we should I just don't like Correa that much as a player and buxton been to injured or his production has been bad at points with all the strikeouts and Kepler is definitely a good fielder I'll miss that but he was always pretty slow out the gate as a hitter and you need production that's consistent
@Razorbacks1
@Razorbacks1 Күн бұрын
Kepler was a stiff. Good defensively but atrocious at the plate with men on base. He’s a career .230 hitter. No great loss.
@iwannatalktosampson5852
@iwannatalktosampson5852 Күн бұрын
Wouldn't be shocked if they traded Pablo especially if they get a crazy offer for him twins are close to contending so having Pablo untouchable would be foolishness but shouldn't move him unless your getting a surefire haul
@Razorbacks1
@Razorbacks1 Күн бұрын
Catching has been a black hole since Mauer. Falvey has no clue how to draft or acquire catchers. Look at the catching prospects since Falvey took over. He couldn’t find a decent catcher in the draft if he stumbled over one. Jeffers and Vazquez both need to be jettisoned. Go out and get just an average MLB catcher who is both offensively and defensively decent and trade for a young prospect from someone else’s organization. I blame Falvey 100% for not bringing in any catching talent.
@joeacker703
@joeacker703 Күн бұрын
What other team can say they only used 2 catchers the last 2 seasons while being highly competative? Last Septembers freefall doesn't change the fact that this has been a really good team for 2 years with only 2 catchers used.
@nordland6098
@nordland6098 Күн бұрын
The Twins seemingly never noticed Jeffers was rolling at the plate when he got at least 2/3s of the starts (much of 2023 and April 2024).
@GregNelson-e6f
@GregNelson-e6f Күн бұрын
In talking about we can't move Lopez because he's the teams pitching leader: so what? It's quite obvious to me that winning is not a concern of this franchise. Nk surprise here at all that they dump Lopez and Correa Buxton. Why would that be a surprise? I actually expect them to. Kepler bashing? I think we all knew he was going to be gone especially once payroll cutting started. But bashing him after he leaves is low class. Was he great? No. But he was serviceable which is a lot better than some of these stiffs on the team called prospects. I'd rather have players like Kepler than someone like Buxton and Lewis that appear to be all talk and hype.
@bridesblade5307
@bridesblade5307 Күн бұрын
It's official....I now hate the Twins more than the Wild!
@Razorbacks1
@Razorbacks1 Күн бұрын
$10 million a year for Kepler is about $9 million too much. Phillies fans will roast him alive for his offensive ineptitude and nonchalant attitude.
@benjames4502
@benjames4502 Күн бұрын
Max Kepler's 2024 war was 1.0, each war is basically breaks down to 8 million. It's an over payment of 2 million, says a lot about the current player market.
@MLBTwins
@MLBTwins Күн бұрын
Passan is just trying to make a headline bc falvy said they're listening on everyone.
@Headless-Norseman
@Headless-Norseman 21 сағат бұрын
If he was trying to make a headline he wouldn't be talking about the Twins
@daniellarsen889
@daniellarsen889 Күн бұрын
If you trade Lopez, you better trade Correa and Buxton. Full rebuild. I would even consider moving Lewis if the return is worthy. Lewis will leave the first chance he gets anyways. Orioles and Astros were once the worst teams in the league. With cheap ass owners, you have to capitalize on pre arb players.
@makelifecount5762
@makelifecount5762 Күн бұрын
Well….bye…Lopez can go…
@henzy12-k6y
@henzy12-k6y 15 сағат бұрын
This team is a joke. Not capitalizing on the 2023 season is going to be the demise of this franchise. The division isn’t getting worse. The mindset around the team and its health is suffocating. They trade Correa and or Pablo and I am out. Trade Lewis, trade buxton, and anyone else. We should be adding to the core not subtracting from it. Put a competitive team on the field and people will respond. They are super close to losing people more than they already have.
@crb3307
@crb3307 Күн бұрын
I will go through whatever rebuild we need to go through. If we go for it then awesome. I'm with Judd, it is what it is. I am mainly still happy the pohlads are selling and would be patient on the new owners for just 5 years. I wanna hear a plan from them and for them to show action and stick with the plan. We're gonna have to get creative to compete.
@joeacker703
@joeacker703 Күн бұрын
Why is it a time to rebuild? The roster as it stands is young enough and competative enough to contend. All MN fans ever hear about is "the future" and it doesn't seem to matter who is runnning things. This team isn't that far away if they didn't act like they need to count pennies. The Pohlads are destroying a good thing.
@RobbyBJust1B4IDIE
@RobbyBJust1B4IDIE Күн бұрын
Ok this conversation needs to shift this team will not be competitive until there are new owners. So they need to work out what the next window is. Unless the new owners are right around the corner Pablo and C4 don’t fit the window. So maximize the value and trade them. They are not operating with championship goals or aspersions from ownership so we need some self awareness about the truth of this situation and stop acting like any decision made isn’t done with a profit and loss statement. Winning is not their goal so reset your expectations!
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