Why MLB Can’t Stop Pitchers From Cheating

[@BaseballDoesntExist]

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[@misanthropicsophist]

i dont even watch baseball but watched the whole video gj

[@AT_II]

Proud of you bro, I remember when u had like 20k subs. Keep doing your thing man 🙏🏼

[@chuckdeuces911]

This video made zero sense. They don't want spider tack because people cry about it but they know the baseballs are too slippery and if they make them too tacky no one can hit them or the pitcher can't control them so they need to make the ball just a perfect blah blah blah .... just let them use spider tack and deal with it

[@Xzenoph]

HelloFresh is anti-union, do not support them.

[@elitejeffrey3719]

If I can walk into a Walmart and buy a Better Baseball there, than maybe you're being provided is s**t!

[@slinky_malinki5330]

King of Juco tested the alcohol vs rosin thing and in a 1 minute video he proved that the alcohol made the ball stickier. Scherzer got ejected and banned for 10 games for doing exactly what the umpires told him to do. It's ridiculous

[@Briansgate]

Bauer did it before him.

[@robmckennie4203]

Rosin softened with alcohol is exceptionally sticky, I use a mixture of rosin and alcohol for soldering and it works very well for that, but it makes a hell of a mess when you spill it

[@meepk633]

Or King of Juco and Scherzer were both lying. I guess it just depends on which group of total strangers you choose to believe: ones who would make money from cheating or ones who want their sport to be fair.

[@MysticZefer]

Whiney cheaters

[@D1_HofCurrySznHim]

@@Briansgate but it’s legal to use what Bauer uses 😂

[@Lemongrass3420]

Modern sports: "AI enhancements are going to threaten the integrity of sports." Also modern sports: "Secret mud hole in New Jersey"

[@Gixsir]

😂

[@TariqSWOLEn]

Super under rated comment

[@luismigueldarochateixeira154]

So not all of New Jersey is a mud hole ???

[@EDF1919]

"The same company that made napalm, agent orange, hydrogen bombs, and breast implants. Are working with MLB to make a new baseball." That was a fucking flashbang of a sentence.

[@NightRogue77]

And rhymes with POW

[@AndreIguodalaFan55]

Monsanto baby Edit: Dow chemicals apparently

[@valritz1489]

Ayup, the real bitch of a thing about everything being made from chemicals, Dow, DuPont, and Monsanto are just as responsible for Easy Bake Ovens as they are for firebombs.

[@Tinil0]

It's also...completely irrelevant? It seems like it's trying to be sensationalistic for no reason. DOW chemicals has made THOUSANDS of things over the years, I don't see what cherry picking supposedly "controversial" ones has to do with baseball. They are a chemical company. They make chemicals. MLB wants a chemical. I don't get why you would even mention all that unless you had no idea who DOW was and just randomly clicked on their wikipedia page and looked for controversies.

[@GeeEm1313]

​@Tinil0 Defending a multinational corporation who had killed thousands of people? You're sick.

[@TimeBucks]

Just so much interesting stuff there. Great content!

[@rajkarankewat676]

👍

[@mitonmohajan4941]

Good

[@souvikmondal8575]

Good

[@nandooznileshwar8491]

👍

[@carlosrangel3559]

cool

[@butch420cassidy4]

Losing 7-5 while throwing a no hitter is the most absurd thing I've ever heard😂

[@Zarnubius]

well I mean it wasn't really a "no-hitter" considering the ball was doing all of the hitting lmao

[@AndreIguodalaFan55]

Loses in no hitters have even happened in the mlb, and they weren’t too long ago

[@MontanaOlle1]

@@AndreIguodalaFan55 One of my favorite pieces of Astros trivia is that the first time that the franchise (then known as the Colt .45’s) made significant history was becoming the first team in league history to lose a no-hitter in a regulation 9-inning game back in 1964. The “Dome” opened up the next year and then that became what Houston baseball was known for, but for a brief moment in time it was all about the confusion of how you can possibly lose a no-hitter😂

[@Theiliteritesbian]

GD can u drone on ANY longer about the same thing in the same nasaly voice with edits every 8s so there is no natural pause in what you are saying? I'm trying to clean my garage and near the end of this i felt like my mother was nagging me.

[@idiotidiot5821]

Cheaters are cowards.

[@rayneozier]

Having a MLB approved substance for extra grip makes a lot of sense to me. You already give pitchers a rosin bag, so why not give them an approved substance that you could more easily regulate.

[@hardflip8]

Because they could just use better foreign substances anyway? Like you said, they give them rosin anyway, so they are already given an approved substance. They just want an edge.

[@SupChad735]

Lets be honesty here. They use the substances because they want an advantage. Sure, they could just stick to the approved rosin. Or they could sneak in something a little more sticky and be able to throw the ball just a little bit better. They are always going to try and cheat no matter what you give them.

[@TooKorky]

People will always do anything to give them an edge. In top sports every single little tiny advantage can make or break a game.

[@airplaneB3N]

Well from what I heard from the video there is still a limit on how much rosin you can use. So you would still run into grey areas regarding the amount of the substance.

[@makishae9811]

Video said Japan and Korea already figured this out, why not just copy them o.o

[@jordan.273]

whats crazy is pitchers are cheating so much that it almost seems like baseball exists

[@Diehardbucsfan]

nah bro baseball never existed

[@joshdraper]

Fo sho

[@thetexanshurtme]

Alas, we can only dream.

[@_michaelmib]

😑

[@frozennorth3426]

ok slow down there buddy

[@flooid5506]

10:28 “whether I’m doing a good job or not idk but I haven’t had any complaints” *me at every job I’ve worked*

[@Kragaar]

Just guessing, MLB doesn't want to use the Japanese/Korean balls because then they don't control them. They want to be able to change the formulation of the sticky stuff so they can play with spin rates, walks, strikeouts, etc. without letting anyone else know in the middle of the season.

[@bobbygetsbanned6049]

Damn it you're right. They could easily use the Japanese balls but you're right, they want to fuck with the balls depending on how they think the season is going. Man the MLB seriously is that sleazy.

[@marcjohn9404]

I kind of feel like there's a huge conflict of interest problem with MLB manufacturing the balls for that reason, it should probably be illegal, because they can manipulate results.

[@Math4real.Schramm]

There's more to it, MLB owns a significant part of rawlings responsible to make the baseballs. The Japanese/Korean balls are made by different companies (I think the japanese ball is a Mizuno)

[@Cornpop69]

@@bobbygetsbanned6049crazy all the shit they do with the balls every year. It’s always some shady nonsense

[@Cornpop69]

@@marcjohn9404and they will. Hate all the rule changes specifically designed to change outcomes. That’s what bothers me the most. Artificially manipulating the game

[@sprayberry88]

Glad to see all the footage of my local team, the Rocket City Trash Pandas, in this one! That no-hitter loss was mind blowing to me and I had no idea they were using the pre-tacked balls. That certainly explains a lot!

[@floridianman]

I used to work for the Cardinals and I would often see the clubhouse employees mudding the balls prior to the game. They told me one day that the MLB officials were supposed to be doing it but they would pass it off on them all the time. There was no supervision whatsoever, literally four guys sitting around a table in the laundry room with a bucket of mud and a giant basket of baseballs.

[@moshunit96]

Umpires not doing their job.

[@sumelar]

In all depictions of baseball prep I have never heard anyone claim MLB officials are supposed to do it. It's always the home team people.

[@sfmc98]

Every video ever made shows the clubbies doing this. Which "MLB official" is supposed to be rubbing dozens of balls?

[@sangvoba4340]

ok

[@tritamtran7264]

ok

[@loganhess5297]

So you cant have sticky hands, but you need to have sticky baseballs. Absolutely amazing how well thought out that is lol. 😂

[@nicolasdenton6891]

Yeah that seams like a catch 22

[@TanakaMatsumoto]

I'm sure you've played baseball in your life at least once... You've probably at least threw a baseball... Have you ever had an issue with the ball being slippery? These are supposed to be professionals They don't need a sticky ball, or rather they shouldn't need one, or sticky hands... how can you claim to be a professional but require a specific kind of ball otherwise you're no good. That doesn't make sense, they should be good with any standard baseball.

[@gorgit]

@@TanakaMatsumoto They are, the point is that they are even better with sticky baseballs. And in a profession, where a one percent increase of effectivenes decides if you are successful or not, such a comparatively big change is insanely attractive. Its always been like this in the world of real professionals.

[@liu3chan]

​@@gorgit Why don't they force them to wear some gloves?

[@gorgit]

@@liu3chan good point, idk

[@shidditiddis]

It’s always made me laugh that everyone took this family at their word that “this mud is the best mud.” We are very susceptible to the placebo effect.

[@smelltheglove2038]

I know where they get it. It’s right by my house. It’s right off the Rancocos river in riverside Nj. I saw them digging it out while fishing for channel cats during a spring tournament at low tide. I think it has more to do with tradition than placebo. This is baseball we’re talking about here.

[@sumelar]

It's not about best, it's that everyone is used to it so unless the mud runs out there's no point in changing. Everyone using the same mud is supposed to make every ball the same.

[@void_snw]

@@sumelar who's to say the mud in that specific location didn't change a lot over time? I doubt it makes much if any difference

[@sumelar]

@@void_snw Over time would mean no meaningful change on an individual pitcher's timescale.

[@Gixsir]

@@smelltheglove2038sssshhhhh

[@ryann5247]

Scherzer wasn't caught cheating. The ump told him to wash his hand with alcohol, which he did, then the ump threw him out because his hands were covered in alcohol and rosin

[@mylatahiri2572]

For someone that hasn't watched a baseball game in over a decade and hated playing the sport, I sure watch a lot of baseball videos. Just so much interesting stuff there. Great content!

[@youtubedrifter5594]

Dude same 😂 I do not understand my own fascination

[@corey2232]

I love how your style & the way you tell these stories is so engaging, even to people like me who haven't watched baseball in ages. Last baseball game I watched was a Rangers vs Cardinals World Series game, and even that was only one game in about a decade. Yet here I am, watching all your videos religiously because they're that good!

[@thetexanshurtme]

I'm ok with pitchers cheating as long as it benefits my favorite team

[@thetexanshurtme]

(Go Astros)

[@lbreplays4951]

🤣🤣

[@g00fygames]

@@thetexanshurtme pitchers or players??? (jk i forgive the astros)

[@pu1pe143]

Ofc the astros

[@aidenawe9359]

Lol

[@1337139]

I learned more about baseball in this one video than I have in my entire life, and I enjoyed it. Bravo sir

[@victorespindula6810]

I'm from Brazil, live in New Zealand. Never watched a baseball match, until I watched your videos about Ohtani. Now I play MLB show, watch MLB highlights and all ur videos. They are , Literally, By far, Not even close, the best videos about baseball I've ever seen, in my entire life! Well done!!!

[@TemptedToClik]

welcome to the world of baseball :)

[@avacadomangobanana2588]

This guy makes me question my own reality sometimes 😂😂😂😂 phenomenal storytelling

[@ardayigitsoy8439]

Honestly this just proves bauer was right

[@aidenawe9359]

I agree, Mr Trevor Bauer knew this the whole time.

[@PlaySA]

Yeah he was right. It's not an easy problem though. And unfortunately for him, it kinda seems like he's not a very good pitcher without a lot of sticky stuff, going by his last few starts in Japan.

[@CharlesFreck]

@@PlaySA Bro, he got banned for so long from professional play. He was a great pitcher without sticky stuff, what's hurt him is over a year of not playing and dealing with an insane amount of personal stress from a BS lawsuit

[@jx14aby]

@@CharlesFreck Like my brother always says, "Sometimes the f**king you get ain't worth the f**king you get."

[@CharlesFreck]

@@jx14aby Ain't that the truth

[@gregor_yaooo]

1:51 the opposite of this happened to me a couple of times when using to much resin while playing handball. It just rips 1 or 2 layers of skin from your finger.

[@cityofmagic4370]

Being consistent is hard for MLB

[@NightRogue77]

Admittedly, it seems to be hard for most of modern humanity

[@cookiemonster1787]

Yeah it’s harder then most sports

[@splashnskillz37]

Being right is even harder for them bums

[@jacobjuenger4454]

I don't think it'll be easy for them to make a ball that works. The biggest issue is that some pitchers need more sticky stuff than others depending on how much their hands sweat, the grooves of their hands, finger length, and myriad of other factors. A ball that's too sticky for one might be not sticky enough for another at some "universal" stickiness.

[@rmp5s]

The umps petting dudes, poking and prodding their ears, the HILARIOUS dude that was staring at MadBum...I swear, if nothing else, all this has made for some pretty hilarious moments. lol

[@AwokenEntertainment]

been watching baseball my whole life and I never would have known this!

[@kevinschindele4829]

These videos are the perfect length and aooo addicting. Great job man

[@CYMotorsport]

Edit: 8:30 thank you. Despite Cone’s experiment actually being laughable, I’m glad someone finally referenced this. I mean fans can’t now be mad that the guy with the power to call things arbitrarily balls and strikes based invisible lines can now deem something at his discretion “too sticky”. Cone’s experiment was dumb bc if you don’t FULLY wash them, it can make it worse. You rid of everything but the stickiest stuff which is last to go. Basically the % of sticky sig increases. I work with rosin regularly - in a jam use acetone if you must. Soap & water softens tissue far too much in sure they don’t allow it bc pitchers and blistering. Literally there’s no good answer here. 7:35 ppl are still outraged over this lol it’s as black and white as it gets. Anything excessive on the glove isn’t allowed. How much more clear can the guideline be? It literally says rosin - even if it’s rosin. It doesn’t matter if it’s excessive Jesus lol he never denied it was on his glove and they even went against tossing him initially. Literally just told him it’s too sticky. Does it again lol like what do you expect

[@Desirsar]

Umpire needs to signal immediately when an inning ends and they're going to check. Wiping your throwing hand on anything during or after this call needs to result in a suspension. Walk a new ball over to the pitcher, have them close their hand over it, umpire then compresses their grip on it for a bit, then ask the pitcher to slowly open their hand. If the ball doesn't drop right away, ejection and suspension.

[@johnstroer]

Dow chemical making the balls? Cut to 30 years later "Did you or someone you know play baseball and develop skin cancer in your throwing hand?"

[@andredornelles8014]

I think this substance had 2 ingredients to work. One is kept in the pitcher's hand and the other in his ear / hat / glove. That way umpires don't feel anything whilst inspecting, but once the pitcher put his hand with the key ingredient the substance reacts and finally works to provide more grip

[@majesticcorgi7733]

I love how most of the clips were Max Scherzer

[@StadiumLandings]

Bro you have the best baseball channel on YT... So happy to have found you all those years ago and see you grow into the large channel that you are today! 😁

[@jaywood1698]

I love this channel. I just got into baseball a few months ago and this channel has helped me stay consistent with watching the game.

[@tanushkalazaretto8465]

I respect people who know how to defend their rights, to prove, despite the fact that they are a coach or a senior on assignment. Athletes deserve respect

[@WBsteve]

The fact that this keeps happening and the MLB has not realized why it's happening is crazy to me.

[@sumelar]

Did you not even watch the video? MLB knows what's going on.

[@RoughNek72]

The MLB have to have it in baseball, this actually makes baseball interesting to watch. 😆 🤣 😂

[@AnarquiaCookbook]

@@RoughNek72 cheating pitchers makes the sport so much worse to watch because then it's just a 0-0 pitchers duel all day

[@BaconSenpai]

fixed like every other sport except hockey and football (soccer)

[@andrewp2681]

@@RoughNek72Boy I love when a game with little action has 0 action at all, what a great take

[@leslawrence3865]

What are the standards for bats? I grew up when corked bats were the thing. How can they test bats? I used a bat made by the same makers of Sosa’s bats. I had surprising bat speed (fast twitch muscle fibers) and my oblique turn. As a lefty pitcher, back then,I tried out for the Cubs’ minors and the bullpen catcher called the pitching scout over. I excelled under pressure. I had great movement and they asked if I have got together with a strength coach to increase my fastball speed. The scout called the gun over and I topped out at 84ish. The scout then told me he loved my circle change and my 2-seam would eat lefty hitters up. He told me they’d have a spot for me if I could add 3+ mph. He said with my breaking pitches and change up, my fastball already looks fast in comparison so if I added 3+, I could have been a valuable lefty pitcher against lefty hitters. Doesn’t apply now. And, the fall after the tryout, on the college team, they tweaked my motion a bit and I was topping out at 88mph. So, for a short while I got to imagine myself as a Cub. The tweak made my front foot land harder,shorter and the next bullpen session, it felt like a bolt of electricity shot up from my foot up to my neck. Then I couldn’t even stand on my own. The school’s athletic trainer suspected I pulled a muscle. I got a second opinion. He told me the college trainers missed an obvious break in my L5 vertebra. He then said he was shocked I was able to walk into his office, sit. He told me the best option was to fuse the broken vertebra to the one above or below. But he told me there was a less-tried option but would allow me to still twist at my waist. I chose that one and it worked.

[@jayjayloks6965]

wasn't the machine testing for tackiness Bauer's idea who they decided to just shove to the side? crazy!

[@vestaxwax]

Bauer's like all the conspiracy theorists. The powers that be label him crazy and ban him from baseball...even though he's been right about everything, all along.

[@AndreIguodalaFan55]

@@vestaxwaxall? Really?

[@MegaDysart]

​@@AndreIguodalaFan55 🤓 "uhh, excuse me, did you really mean to say 'all'??" dork

[@AndreIguodalaFan55]

@@MegaDysart 🤡

[@zeb5478]

We used to mix glycerin and powered rosin for grip on bronc saddles and bareback riggins. Great grip. Glycerin in the hair and rosin in the bag, easy.

[@zoomboi4204]

This one man is the only reason i am kept up with baseball😂

[@kurumauzamaki2731]

I feel like it’s as simple as using the same method Japan and Korea use if it works so well for them

[@LookerCS]

I was at the game when Scherzer was ejected. He got so much attitude from the crowd from cheating even though he didn’t it was sad to see

[@CharlesFreck]

Baseball is pretty stupid. There's very strong evidence to suggest the 'steroid era' was actually just juiced baseballs and had nothing to do with steroid use. Yet everyone still says Bonds was a cheater despite being one of the greatest batters of all time.

[@LookerCS]

@@CharlesFreck I think he’s the goat tbh straight up

[@Kyle_116]

@@CharlesFreck Barry Bonds is both a cheater and an all time great hitter. He was a hall of fame talent before steroids, than roided up and hit 270 homeruns starting from his age 35 season where his power should have declined. It's hard to say Bonds didn't roid up when he gained 50 pounds, his head swelled up and his shoe size grew 3 sizes.

[@1Learn2Swim3]

Lol he straight up cheated. He washed his hands and changed his glove, figured the umps wouldn't check him again after that so he laid on the sticky stuff heavy, then got checked again and went ballistic to try and save face. Dude cheats just like the rest of them.

[@LookerCS]

@@1Learn2Swim3 brother did you not watch the video or any of the news 😂😂😂 he did exactly what they asked him to do and applied rosin inside the dugout

[@scotthuang3022]

“…this was disgusting” made me die

[@8stormy5]

I think the key to this is going to be better understanding of fluid dynamics around the baseball. To this end, I'm thinking a pre-tacked ball could work IF the ball was not tacked all that much (enough to ensure a solid grip) AND if the ball was able to cause a lesser effect through spin, such as by slightly lowering the seams. Of course, you also need to let pitchers actually get used to the stuff- first of all so the stats are accurate (think of it this way: If the brakes in your car were suddenly a little less sensitive, how smoothly would you be braking the first time you drove it?) and second of all so we don't get injuries left and right immediately after introduction.

[@achimsinn6189]

Without being an expert or technician, I wonder if just roughing up the leather to make the ball less smooth would do the trick. A rougher surface is easier to grip which means less or ideally no sticky substance needs to be used.

[@benjaminphelps561]

i may be an adult but hearing a baseball player say it was the slickest balls he ever touched in mlb made me giggle too much, i cant be saved

[@paulerxx]

It's been the same ump squad that threw every player out for "foreign substances" this year. I'm convinced both Max and German were simply using rosin. Look at German's spin rates, they never went up during the two games brought up in this video...Which really doesn't make sense if he was cheating. That's the reason you use the "sticky stuff"

[@TheBloves13]

IDK why but i find myself believing Scherzer, maybe im being fooled, but he seems to be targeted cause he is a bit of a spaz.

[@paulerxx]

@@DeLaCruz_160 Pedro Martinez has a video about it as well that's maybe a year older.

[@DeLaCruz_160]

@@paulerxx true thanks. i only mentioned Cone since that video was specifically based on the reasons that Max gave about him cleaning with alcohol and it made it even sticker lol

[@TrevorMayBaseball]

I, for one, am tired of pitchers and their shenanigans.

[@sinfulhappiness]

I mean, I licked my fingers on my throwing hand and wipe them off before every pitch while playing 2B all through high school. Still do it while playing 16" softball. It always felt like the leather on the ball reacted much grippier than without doing that. Especially if I got infield dirt and/or dust on my hands. I think if they standardize something, that would be the way to go. But who knows.

[@bumperbonnie5721]

The rule here is as long as you make a significant enough attempt to dry/wipe them off it’s legal, it gives a small extra boost in control and frankly I doubt it increases any statistic, just makes it easier

[@mithrylmoonlight]

This has to be the single best spokesperson for baseball i've ever seen I've seen a lot of channels focusing around basketball, football, etc, and none of them even come close to this one around baseball. i'm a fat, lazy american IT guy who will never care for anything to do with sports but with the sheer insanity that this channel presents in terms of the players, rules, etc, by gods witness you got yourself a baseball fan now

[@shoutatacloud]

If the balls in Japan and Korea have solved this problem already, why doesn't MLB just buy the balls from Japan and Korea?

[@ryanuyehara8399]

This is the biggest assertion (and seeming solution) that goes unaddressed!

[@slinky_malinki5330]

Because they can't use non American balls in the sport that's labeled as "America's pastime." It's PR stuff. The amount of dumbasses who would actually take offense at a Japanese ball being used in an MLB game is way too high.

[@Wolverine8721]

A) Pride. They aren’t American made and baseball is supposed to Americas Pastime, buying from foreign countries would cause a lot of the MLB audience to flip. B) Money. The whole reason they’re keeping this in house is that it’s cheaper that way.

[@aaronhoy3410]

@@Wolverine8721 The balls are already bought form another country... they are made in Costa Rica. Uh, no it's not actually cheaper to spend what is likely millions of dollars already to try & find a solution to something that has already been fixed elsewhere.

[@jjcoola998]

Because people are making big money selling them and don't want to lose easy money. I mean shit look at the mud family lol they haven't had to work in generations

[@VivBrodock]

MLB: "the games are too slow we need to speed things up" Also MLB: "we need to interrogate pitchers for 30 mins a game and eject them for doing what we tell them"

[@thecodfish8733]

the thing about foreign substances is that they are as old as the game, whether it be the spitballers of the 30s or the use of spider tack. what I think is the problem nowadays is that it is not a few isolated people using them, it is a large percentage of pitchers. I think it all stems from the MLB's desire to be less boring and engage younger people, but they aren't going about it the right way

[@ElfRightsActivist]

If they were smart, they'd let the guys get back on roids so we can get MacGuire slamming home runs all day again.

[@thecodfish8733]

@@ElfRightsActivist it would solve the problem with less people watching too!

[@tonybones8402]

i like how you say "pithcers losing their mind" in the beginning but really %95 of it is Max Sherzer clips lol

[@nazfrde]

Even if MLB comes up with a machine test to asses stickiness, how are the pitchers supposed to know how to achieve that ideal stickiness?

[@timothystamm3200]

Each team gets one, and the pitchers have to test their balls before the game. Run over the limit and you need to try again do it during a game you're ejected. The pitchers will probably have it highly calibrated after having a spring training with the machines.

[@SilverEvans]

This is why I laugh when anyone calls a team a cheater. Especially the Astros. Every team has cheated in some way or the other. Weather it’s PED’s, Stick Stuff, or sign stealing.

[@SilverEvans]

@TackoFallOutBoy this post right here.

[@williamfischer3990]

MLB is just fighting a losing battle here; if you let all this sticky stuff fly you piss off the hitter if you get rid of all the sticky stuff you piss off the pitchers. In my opinion if MLB wants maximum action you have to do the later. Yeah it’s going to upset the pitchers but at the same time it will make the game more exciting to watch, because no honest fan will say the prefer a pitchers dual to a slugfest.

[@tmtmtlsml]

If that's the case, then just put the ball on a fucking tee and get rid of the pretense already

[@Werecandle]

@@tmtmtlsml Exactly. Some of us watch the game for more than fucking 450ft dingers.

[@3xceIIent]

You don't just piss off the pitchers by removing all sticky substances. Your going to piss off the batters too. Because now the pitchers have less control and the batters are more likely to get hit. Which is pretty much the entire argument for sticky substances in the first place. Trying to change the ball makes sense to me. If it's so slippery you have to add mud to it to try and make it less slippery perhaps they should just come from the factory less slippery. I don't think it even has to be a sticky ball tbh. Just make it so it isn't so damn slippery.

[@dontmisunderstand6041]

@@3xceIIent No, they have the same amount of control, not less. Control over where the ball goes is a matter of consistency, not grip. A lack of control stems from either a lack of practice, or the introduction of different factors... factors like, say, a substance that makes your hands stickier. A high school caliber pitcher can reliably not hit the batter. If these losers can't even manage that, they don't belong in the major leagues.

[@Zackaria_sMax]

What about candy or gum? Couldn't they get sugar on their fingers n lick it off when ump is coming?

[@CharmCityGamer]

I don't get the outrage. First they encourage more home runs in the steroid era, then suddenly that's bad. Then now when pitchers are successful, that's bad. Shouldn't we want the best performances for all talent, help or not? Sheesh!

[@AllHaiLKINGTIsHeRe3]

During the world series Framber Valdez was using his sweat and mixing it in with the rosin to create a sticky substance and then he would blatantly wipe it off on his pants as he approached the umpire for the check. Everyone just kind of ignored it. But it is interesting how all these legendary pitchers from last year are struggling this year.

[@theman1412]

Don't have a clue what you are talking about (Anyway Framber is doing good this year, if that is what you are insinuating)

[@pumpkinhill4570]

So the problem is already solved. Sign a contract with Mizuno. I remember seeing all the Japanese pitchers in the WBC complaining about how hard it was to get a grip on the ball. Makes their dominance even more incredible. Must be super hard to come over to the MLB as a pitcher.

[@pollohermano5357]

This channel rocks. Idk shit about baseball, but I finish every one of your videos and they are so fascinating.

[@extremebeastreaction6245]

“More mud on their balls” I’m dying 💀

[@t-virusterrance4734]

Hello, Humans Don't let humans hold you back, if there's something you want or need to do. TERRANCE OUT

[@tonyrauls1941]

Watching the umpire (who i will not mention by name) caress Madbums hand while staring longingly at him will always make me laugh out loud.

[@alliegirl2468]

It’s flipping off, not flicking off. Ahahahahaha.

[@JohnSuave]

Watching this happen is like a car crash. I can't look away from the KZbin videos explaining how the league is failing itself, but I can't bring myself to watch a game because it's just awful.

[@McMannis505]

As someone who played at upper levels, the simple combination of sweat and dirt worked for me in most cases. If I needed something extra, a little spray-on Coppertone Sport would make a world of difference.

[@Bushesbakedbrick]

Bro is the best baseball KZbinr ever

[@pacorka9943]

Agreed

[@frozennorth3426]

so good he doesn’t exist

[@chadfookilroy2015]

1:57 I thought it does improve grip, which allows the pitcher to improve the spin rate?

[@baseballstarhamp4823]

Keep up the good work😊

[@7Harrison7]

10:38 more mud on there balls

[@SamJardine-h9j]

r u among us?????

[@CFO341]

“Gotcha bi+ch”-in Dave Chappelle vc😂😂😂

[@painturned2passion]

I mean can it be the that the catcher is doing it and not the pitcher?

[@drewbocop]

Homie at 1:12 needs to stop rubbing Spider Tack in his eyes. He's turning into one.

[@Landis_Grant]

Role model Mad Max Scherzer is showing kids that cheating is lucrative to the tune of $43.33 M per season (he and Verlander are the two highest paid MLB players)!

[@giantmess4335]

You know what is funny about his cheating, Someone proved that with just the rosin bag and some sweat, He made something on his hand that was sticky as hell. The funny thing is his own sweat and the bag just literally sitting on the mound is enough to make it. He literally got ejected from substances that the MLB allows, Even the year before baseball players were speaking about how confusing the rules are when one of the sticker substances came from legal source that you play with anyway.

[@WillyGrippo]

I wonder if the whole crackdown on sticky substances is just one big elaborate troll of Max Scherzer

[@BarnabyBaltimoron]

The Scherzer one pissed me off the most

[@artemirrlazaris7406]

Itsa chemical game. So you cna use a combination of legal items or dirt to give more crip strength, heat friciton activated, or reacts wit hthe ball to increase grip, or inflammation of the threading of the ball slightly and finger position can give grip strength, or hand exercises can give grip strength, or finger augmentation to increase your end lift to increase your RPm/ Monkey tack is a obvious thing. You could have or create a hand scanner before a player goes out, scanns glove and hand, IE wash hands before going on, but hten its unfair because your hands maintain moisture. So there is a natural way to increase your grip strength.. SLightly over dry hands or callous.. heating, and other form is using water saturation method, causes your grip strenght to increase for udnerwater movement greatly, IE the wrinkle method, so you could get several minutes, but hten you need to dry fast, so there is a lot of ways, be interest to docuement this. Heres how I look at it, the increased rpm simpyl changes your level of play, its nto a bad thing ,but diffrential speed can throw you off gaurd, from machien throwing balls to hard ball there is a learning curve. As you go up in level of play yo uahve to enter into a pre-spring... I htink use what ever you want.... if the RPM of hte league goes up, you modulate the pitcher plate per seasons to last years RPM by a various distance depending on the leagues RPM, which gives hte batter more time, and balances it back out... Thats the ismpliest fix, move the pitchting mound or, batting home plate, or just get better as a batter and change hitting regiement ot include 3000 rpm balls.

[@makcatchem9614]

They could possibly just solve those problem with a textured leather

[@luv2sail66]

“…some pitchers asked clubhouse men to put more more mud on (their) balls…”…it may be juvenile but that line made me laugh.

[@TheMeatloafCh]

😂..I watched this with my teenaged sons and couldn’t stop laughing.😅 Too funny! Keep it up.

[@theelmagoo]

So Trevor Bauer warned about this and called the league out to do something..... they ostracized him instead. Now they're panicking. Monkeys would do a better job running MLB at this point.

[@DanielGanes]

Honestly, if batters can use pine tar to get a better grip on bats, pitchers should be able to use it to grip the ball

[@benjaminduval6054]

I think this hits on a particular peculiarity of human behavior: the power of belief. Now that pitchers know those spin rates are achievable, they have a new goal to chase. Whether or not sticky substances are used, they have a new goal, and will work towards it. Cheating or not, it’s going to be the new normal.

[@baronhelmut2701]

I really do not understand how anybody can consider this cheating. I understand why athletes are punished for exchanging their health to get results, but this is not impacting anybodys health. Just learn to hit the fucking ball doing more obnoxious curves than usual and it’s all good.

[@benjaminduval6054]

@@baronhelmut2701 I hear ya. But we live in a democracy. If the majority of people feel it’s unfair, the we all agree it’s unfair. Unless you’re a communist or something.

[@baronhelmut2701]

@@benjaminduval6054 No. Otherwise the majority could agree that it’s ok to kill Nazis for their beliefs. Which disagrees with our model of democracy completely. Democracy means that there is certain liberties a person can take that nobody is allowed to restrict in any way whatsoever. Hence why this rule seems obnoxious. There is no real way of preventing it, and it’s not really unfair either.

[@benjaminduval6054]

@@baronhelmut2701 what do you think WWII was?

[@baronhelmut2701]

@@benjaminduval6054 Undemocratic my guy. Thats what it was. Democracy does not equal mob rule you moron. Quite the opposite actually. Democracy means most people get to decide amongst the sane options. The insane ones are not on the table. And btw. the germans voted for the NSDAP but they would also have gone to prison if they didn’t. I dont dare say they didn’t have a choice, they definitely did, but this had nothing to do with democracy.

[@rainlemon]

i wanted to make sure, and it says that this rosin stuff contains pine resin when powdered resin gets into contact with alcohol, it becomes super sticky.. and ya cant get it off . it just melts into your hand . just throwing it out there, never played baseball, resin is used in printmaking, im a printmaker

[@natemarx4999]

This channel should be allowed to make specials on MLB network, they don’t have content like this.

[@lukaskubik4698]

A lot of this stuff shows how old an unwilling to modernize this league is. Can you imagine if if NHL goalies had a sticky substance in the glove that would kinda be allowed but not really ? Or if the pucks in every arena were a little bit different ? Crazy stuff.

[@TracksideViews]

#4 on trending nice!

[@michaelchen1838]

Love super Braves fan Joey left out any video of the Braves on cue lol

[@Trillyana]

For anyone wondering why MLB doesn't just use the Japanese or Korean balls, the balls are a different size and weight from MLB balls. They would also need to switch ball manufacturers. Rawlings has been making the balls for MLB since 1955, so I'm sure they are not trying to mess with that dynamic as well.

[@joshuaferreira5223]

Hey man I’m the rare case you see this comment I love the style and way you present the videos very fascinating information delivered in a fantastic format and many of others would probably agree keep up the awesome work :)

[@KC24987]

The fact that Korea and Japan already have their own baseballs with the right amount of grip and tackiness but the MLB can't seem to do the same is saying something about MLB/DOWs stubbornness to ask these Asian countries for advice.

[@the_original_Bilb_Ono]

That's not what it's about at all. They want to have control over the substance for a list of reasons. Also the Asian manufacturers aren't just going to give "advice" on how to produce their formula that is worth millions. You're making it out as if all of this is simply due to some guys who are jealous. It's much more complicated than that.

[@user-ly4bz9fw3k]

I used to play softball and in 81 and 82 they used a ball known as T4000....everyone on the team could hit that ball out of 300 foot park....after it killed 3 people it was banned...i still have one on the dresser...the ball had same thing in center that golf ball does

[@erikacarver7308]

Max Scherzer did not deserve to get ejected

[@peterl2489]

And got a 10 game suspension

[@erikacarver7308]

@@peterl2489 oh yeah he did

[@adamworley7161]

I don’t know how you didn’t lose it when saying that 10:36

[@masnugget]

MLB rules ruined the game

[@joshdraper]

For sure

[@joshdraper]

Well not ruined just made the worse

[@masnugget]

@@joshdraper true

[@joelharo7817]

Baseballs problem is inherent to the game. It's easier to throw a ball than to hit a speeding ball with a stick. You can change the ball and stick to compensate, but you end up in a precarious situation where no one can hit.

[@zekerton7262]

“What do you do for work?” “I collect mud.” “Oh… is that a temporary job?” “No, my family has done it for generations.”

[@dannypope1860]

Why don’t they just make balls that slightly more grippy out of the factory… and then not allow any tampering at all?!?

[@williamchoza1227]

Muf on there balls got me dying 🤣 😭

[@turtle9294]

I think the reason we see a lot of pitchers throwing up on the mound, is because they lick their hand after every pitch. Then they puke because of the substance.