Why Modern Independence Movements Never Succeed

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[@Kaede-Sasaki]

21:30 Scotland is a nation, not a nation-state. A nation-state has its own borders, is completely sovereign, engages in foreign affairs, and has a military and monopoly of force.

[@Kaede-Sasaki]

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[@ДАРТАНЬЯН-з2щ]

Sometimes they succeed. A lot of empires of past are dead now and their independence movements established nations on their ruins.

[@TeTaongaKorora]

Taking money from raid shadow legends, a pro-@partheid company, on this video is in extremely poor taste

[@321_au]

Regarding Quebec, it got so close to independence rather lately: in 1995, when the "yes" side lost by just over 50.000 votes.

[@empereurnico6048]

Fucking ontarians

[@jackyex]

But the vote doesn't mean that all of Quebec would be given independence, it would probably be partitioned if anything

[@davidlefranc6240]

@@jackyex Nah i don't think so if we separate its gonna be like a separation from the decision of Ottawa but still linked business wise !

[@nicolasbouchard6331]

The current pq has managed to bring alot of Anglos quebs and native to the independence discussion witch is a pretty big contrast to the 1995 vote. Pq wants to change up the languages laws to make it more functional for everyone and overall a more functional government that what we got federally or with legros Legault. If they perform well once they are elected you will definitely see a huge spike in favor for independence since alot of ppl are on the fence and are waiting to see how things play out with the roc (the rise in political extremists in the rest of Canada is probably the main cause from the rise in independence from Anglos quebs and other groups that were generally against independence) pq and Qs are probably the two best options to vote for native so independence for Quebec means extra independence for them.

[@runnerkidal]

​@nicolasbouchard6331 no one will vote for the pq as no one has done for decades. Hope this helps

[@JeremyIrwin-c8f]

The problem with "Never" is that you only have to be proved wrong just once. How many people in the late 1970s or early 1980s thought that Germany would 'never' be reunified, for example?

[@debbiegilmour6171]

Exactly, this guy's argument is based off a flawed premise.

[@zhcultivator]

Germany was already a fully recognised**** sovereign state. Kurdistan, Catalonia, etc are not** that....

[@JeremyIrwin-c8f]

@@zhcultivator You miss the point. Both West and East Germany were fully recognised sovereign states by many countries (although West Germany never extended that recognition to East Germany in full) and if in 1985 you had said that West Germany would have absorbed East Germany within six years, a lot of people would have laughed and said "It'll never happen - at least not in my lifetime". Countries around the world recognise Scotland as part of the UK today, but that's not to say that Scotland couldn't become independent one day and if that happened through a freely and fairly contested referendum, I've no doubt countries would set up embassies in Edinburgh and recognise Scotland as an independent state.

[@J.B.Ram1]

Never is a dangerous word. One of Scotland, Quebec or Catalonia is likely to be independent within 100 years.

[@usuarionaoidentificado9918]

An interesting example that I think should've been mentioned is Somaliland. Living conditions and stability actually improved in their territory after secession, which they achieved without external backing.

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Different between british and Italian administration

[@ecoideazventures6417]

BTW, hope you have heard of the external backing extended by Ethiopia now!

[@newguy8288]

@@mimorisenpai8540that too, but it’s also because when Somalia started to get bad that part of the country was able to eventually consolidate and secede, whereas the rest fell into anarchy

[@BruhMomentum543]

somaliland aint gonna be independent bro

[@usuarionaoidentificado9918]

@@BruhMomentum543 It already is

[@HTV-2_Hypersonic_Glide_Vehicle]

Putting Texas and Palestine in the same thumbnail seems odd, as their situations are way different from each other.

[@AhmedALA-i7k]

Agreed Most of these states are not even countries palestine is recognized as a country by 148 Nations and 164 recognize israel if you search up palestine it is recognized by even google Texan Indepedence wont happen ever the us will not ever allow that to happen lol however palestine is being recognized by more and more states eventually i wont be suprised if it becomes recognized by everyone

[@alexandru5369]

FR Texas is a country within one as it had legitimate international backing Palestine is a whole other can of worms

[@gothicgolem2947]

@@AhmedALA-i7kyou say the US wont allow Texas to be independent but the Question is will Israel let Palestine or will they keep occupying them forever

[@FOGGYlama123]

@@AhmedALA-i7k recocognition don't matter if It ain't a real country 180 countries can recognize Michigan don't mean it's real, Palestine is just Israels Indian territory from the old US, which will prolly be completely Jewish in 40-60 years just like modern day Oklahoma turned white.

[@schneejacques3502]

Yeah there so many better places. Chechenya, tibet, ect

[@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986]

If this is true then how come I successfully declared independence from my parents by buying my first house last week? Checkmate.

[@LackToez]

Amen

[@IDMarketer]

Congrats 🎉❤

[@matheusd.rodrigues429]

Did you really become independent or just a puppet state?

[@turos2]

Good job!

[@orboakin8074]

Congratulations 👏👏

[@GenXerReacts]

So, since South Sudan became an independent country recognized by all major international bodies on July 9th, 2011, does this mean that "modern independence movements" are all those that started on or after July 10th, 2011?

[@beans69beans]

South Sudan gained independence from a country without much power, so that made it easier. It’s also been a pretty big failure, so doesn’t bode well for the future of independence movements, as most countries don’t want a lawless war zone on their borders.

[@ekesandras1481]

South Sudan is independent, but a catastrophally failed state: civil war, famine, tribal warfare, lack of institutions, corruption, no economy, armed paramilitary groups domestic and foreign ...

[@schnitzelsemmel]

The thumbnail alone is insane

[@dionysise5008]

Kurds fought and beat ISIS then got betrayed by the West. That was sad

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

Haiti fought and won against France , then they were forced to pay reparations, then they were occupied by the USA . And you know the rest

[@emrealn3786]

Kurds collaborated with isis*.

[@LackToez]

The Iraqis beat ISIS, not only the Kurdish Minority.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

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[@FrazzP]

What was the West supposed to do? Force Iraq and Syria to cede land to a Kurdish republic? It would have caused uproar in the Middle East and made Iran more hostile than it already is, not to say anything of Turkey.

[@Anonymous-fv9iq]

BOUGAINVILLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A WORD!

[@woofwoo5618]

Bougainville will very likely achieve independence in 2027

[@Michael-j4l3d]

​@@woofwoo5618Unless a random bureaucrat decides to change their mind at the last minute

[@derkommissar4986]

Boogieville

[@OWTShark]

"Why independence movements always fail" *why independence movements always fail in the West

[@joaovitormatos8147]

We found the clickbaitiest thumbnail

[@pedrofr1434]

I think you forgott the most important factor: not even the majority of the population in most of those regions are pro-independence

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Don't mention internal infighting

[@-._A2._-]

Or there are something more important than independence such as EU for Scotland which got backfired

[@DaveE99]

Manufactured consent, propoganda, counter insurgency

[@danielmarcotorrente4437]

Absolutely true

[@zeytelaloi]

Basically we are heading toward a world where more and more countries will be partly recognized and partly unrecognized.

[@bobjohnson3940]

Sometimes, your local independence movements are genuine as a result of real discontent and a real vision for the betterment of the future for all. Other times, they're sparked, supported, and moved forward by enemies of you, and you're a functionary for the fall of your own people on behalf of a foreign power. The key really is figuring who's who, and which is which.

[@lzh4950]

Also heard that the then colonial gov't in Malaysia gifted the Pattani sultanate to Thailand in 1902, with the sultanate being mostly Muslim while the rest of Thailand is mostly Buddhist, & there's been an insurgency brewing in that region for the past 20 yrs maybe due do dissatisfaction over how Thailand has governed them e.g. malls have been attacked with bombs & arson, while drive-by shootings have targeted monks, teachers & soldiers. Maybe what makes this conflict more intractable is that no one claims responsibility for the attack usually (though I heard that businesses have reported being threatened to remain closed on Friday, the Muslim day for prayer), so it's probably thus harder for authorities to know who to negotiate with (so far I recall only 1 separatist group, the BRI, has been identified), though I've also read that authorities may be trying to build bridges by recently offering to teach Malay besides Thai in the region, albeit written in Thai instead of Latin script

[@Boid_ID]

"Why independence movement **never** suceed" Righttt...

[@Ghost_1297aa]

In modern times

[@Boid_ID]

@@Ghost_1297aa YugoSlav War?

[@thedoctorairsoft6813]

​@@Boid_ID and soviet union

[@TristanTodd-kk9um]

​@@thedoctorairsoft6813South Sudan 🇸🇸

[@newguy8288]

@@TristanTodd-kk9umI wouldn’t really be calling South Sudan a success story, they achieved independence and then immediately had a civil war

[@All4thaCash]

In Canada, we were - and are - fully willing to accept the decisions of the people of Quebec. We feel like we are better together, but if they decide we aren't, that is their decision to make.

[@Kaede-Sasaki]

What about land connection to new brunswick and the east? Would the northern part of Quebec, through national park legislation, be taken so to allow land connection to the east of canada?

[@Kaede-Sasaki]

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[@Bojan-zs8lf]

When will krajina be an independent republic?

[@USA-o5o]

Basically a soft way of saying you don’t even want them

[@MonsieurDean]

"Nutting ever happens."

[@VegitoBlue202]

Found MonsieurZ

[@portocală33]

Nothingburger

[@zhcultivator]

International Recognition is key, that's what some commenters fail to realise or ignore. Regional Autonomy is probably more realistic in the modern day tbh.

[@korakys]

Alternate title for this video: Why independence movements with less than 50% local support can't succeed.

[@JoRdi-ul4xg]

scotland has more than 50% after brexit

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Some of them have 50% or more local support but lack of international support and serious infighting cant cause their downfall

[@-._A2._-]

​@@mimorisenpai8540yup because not voting is also a form of protest. It was done in the 70s In Northern Ireland.

[@FranzBieberkopf]

@@JoRdi-ul4xg This simply isn't true. In the UK election this year, 65% of Scottish voters voted for anti-independence parties. 35 is less than 50.

[@JoRdi-ul4xg]

@@FranzBieberkopf i'd say a lot less independists are participating in UK general elections, specially after brexit. That may be skewing the results.

[@jlm3744]

I'm Puerto Rican, we could easily become Independent. The only problem though is we have an extremely corrupt government that's shared between the people who want to keep Puerto Rico as just a USA territory or make Puerto Rico the 51st state in the US, and they are only being proped up because all the older people don't take politics seriously and treat it like a sporting event, so they just vote for the same exact parties every time just for fun. There is also that mentality of fear, that Puerto Rico is nothing without the US that also another reason, they believe without the US Puerto Rico will automatically collapse. But slowly that is changing with the younger generations, there is a new political coalition called (La Alianza) that just formed to take down those two major parties. Both the two majority parties PNP and PPD are both declining in support, the PNP pro statehood party because they have so much corruption and the PPD because their status option of remaining a US territory is even being rejected by congress, so there's no chance for their party. I don't see Puerto Rico becoming independent in this decade or the next, but one day we will eventually be our own nation. Puerto Rico statehood is near to impossible to happen, I don't believe the US wants us, it would be detrimental to both the US and Puerto Puerto financially, politically, and culturally. And there are to many obstacles blocking it from happening. Viva Puerto Rico Libre!!

[@bopboi370]

so it cannot easily become independant 💀

[@hisownfool1]

I am also Boricua and I basically agree with you.

[@jlm3744]

@@bopboi370 All those other countries have a bunch of bureaucratic hurdles they need to get through. All we need is for half the island to get over their fear of independence and we could make it happen.

[@emptyhad2571]

I think Puerto Rico should become a state there’s more to gain than lose. But that’s up to you guys.

[@jlm3744]

@@emptyhad2571 Hell No!! Sure statehood has its perks but it comes with way more baggage. It would be detrimental to both the US and Puerto Rico financially, politically, and culturally. But it's never going to happen, there's way to many obstacles blocking it from happening that it's near to impossible. And sure, independence might not be perfect but it's the only way out of this limbo status we are in now, and it will open us uo to a world of possibilities.

[@anubis2814]

A Belgium split has the highest likelihood of happening. There wont be an independence. it will be closer to the the break up of Czechoslovakia. Both Flanders and Wallonia kind of hate each other, and each area has 3 governments depending on what ethnicity you are. Its why they have gone for the longest time without governments. If they were smart, the small German part would try to join Germany, Flanders might try to join the Netherlands, and Wallonia may try to join either France or Possibly even Luxembourg which would be an interesting twist. If these nations even want these parts of Belgium is another question entirely.

[@MatheoDM]

This is simply not true. Flemish people and Walloon people don't hate each other... although we have economic disputes, there is no racism, the vast majority of Flemish people don't want independence, even most of those who voted far-right don't. The german part of Belgium is literally the most pro-Belgian region in the country. Flemish people would never want to join the Netherlands, and Wallonia would never want to join France... there is no point in balkanizing our country, as it would take too much effort for an outcome that the vast majority of us would never support...

[@anubis2814]

@@MatheoDM I guess hate is a very strong word. I know the Flemish were at one point had a "the other regions are leeching off of our wealth and holding us back" element to it, however that might have been a temporary period and while serious did not persist. . Hate and racism are very different things. I had no idea that the german part was the most pro-Belgian. I do know that there are like 3 different governmental bodies based on language(unless that is also overhyped by people who don't actually understand the culture) and it goes the longest without a government. I guess people who want to make youtube videos have been spreading this bad information because its a good narrative. I assumed they were somewhere between the congenial breakup of Czechoslovakia and the catalonian separatists but its sounds like neither are even close to the truth.

[@guillermojm6415]

What about Brussels ?

[@shinogaming4978]

I remember helping a flander with renewable energy in the event of separation. I don't know what happened after though.

[@kryptoid2568]

23:12 The Catalan independence flag in the sea of Scotland flags

[@Cypher791]

Scottish independence comes down to religious sectarianism, leftist catholics as pro independence and right wing Protestants as pro union. The country is divided and neither side would want to be governed by the opposite group. Scotland forgets that we voluntarily joined the union, and we piggy backed off the British Empire, becoming a wealthy developed country, and we now want to act like an oppressed, conquered nation and demand independence, not because of economics, but for religious and nationalist reasons.

[@ekesandras1481]

when nationalist separatists are also leftists, like in Scotland or Catalonia, than academia loves them. When they are right wing, like the Lega Nord in Italy, than they are evil.

[@tzf04]

If Quebec becomes independent, will it become a Latin American country, since it fits the definition?

[@davidlefranc6240]

Spanish takes over English its gonna become Latin a way or another period ! Just the facts that 60plus % of the billion able to speak English aren't even English speakers just opportunist !

[@JM57-99]

"Latin America" is mainly geopolitical

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Yes

[@yaboiN3O9]

yes

[@TasukuMuncha]

By definition yes, but you know the mental gymnastics they will do to not be labelled as Latin American

[@elricbeaudoin7847]

19:54 The budget of year 1 proposed by the PQ was highly recognized by many reputated and independent economists. Even the actual prime minister of Quebec recognized, an independent Quebec would be viable.

[@D0GGy333]

What happened in South Sudan then ?

[@randomtexan736]

EXACTLY

[@Mesopotamia-v6d]

The north didn't have the power to keep the south, unlike the other countries in the video,

[@mimorisenpai8540]

North government in crisis make them can't keep South Sudan and International pressure got hard day by day because many of International media reported northern arab muslim elites genocide black Christian there.

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

Weaknesses

[@samankucher5117]

same in tegray .

[@Jane_8319]

“Modern independence movements don’t work” South Sudan: “am I a joke to you?”

[@belkacemF]

ever heard of ALGERIA 🇩🇿,,,the independence movement "FLN"won against the french ,,,,after millions of death and btw when it has launched in 54 most of its former colonies separated and were giving independence (at the same time the discovery of gaz and oil in algeria)but even when the whole french army was in algeria they lost and the 2 million setters were kicked,,,we didn't pay for the buildings and factories the french left like other colonies ,that's the real independence lol

[@lunarthicclipse8219]

balad el million shaheed

[@Solveig.Tissot]

Average Virgin Cringe Brainless Fatherless Anti France Troll Fanboy taking Copium over here ⬆️

[@FrazzP]

Even though Algeria deserved its independence, that's not what happened though. De Gaulle was the one who decided to pull out of Algeria because of domestic and international pressure, especially French communists. The French had basically annihilated the FLN as a military force by 1959. More Algerians served with the French as 'Harkis' than as FLN fighters. The settlers left because the FLN threatened to do to them what the French had done to the Algerians.

[@lunarthicclipse8219]

@FrazzP still wouldnt have happened without severe resistance and freedom fighting.

[@FrazzP]

@@lunarthicclipse8219 That's true, you don't get anything by standing around.

[@TimWeber-b9h]

I think this focus on Catalonia is really missing the discussion about Catalan people in France and Andorra

[@matteo-ciaramitaro]

Isn't andorra independent already

[@Michael-j4l3d]

​@@matteo-ciaramitaroa Catalonian uprising there would have nuclear levels of cringe.

[@livwake]

@@matteo-ciaramitaroyeah

[@genuscorvid]

@@Michael-j4l3d Andorra is already a Catalan state. Why would Catalans declare independence from a country where they are the majority ruling class?

[@STEINLAR]

The honest answer is there's way more people who are more concerned with making the place they live in better, rather than living in a new entity all together. Independence movements succeed when they think they can do better economically on their own.

[@commenterthe3rd]

exactly

[@CarlosMGrade]

There are nearly 200 widely recognized independent states. What do you mean "never succeed"?

[@SirRestalrig]

Scotland could absolutely join the EU, as well as NATO, the USA and other European states have felt more doubtful about the UKs ability to aid NATO, as well as the lack of large economic ability to benefit Europe, as well as Scotland is more locationaly viable to aid NATO than England, as Scotland makes up a large part ocean wall that is intended to keep Russia out of the Atlantic. There is a reason that Westminster has prevented another referendum, the SNP is proof enough at the massive support around independence.

[@FranzBieberkopf]

Then why did 65% of Scottish voters vote for anti-independence in this years general election? I laughed when you claim to speak for the USA and other European countries-who elected you to speak for them.

[@SirRestalrig]

@@FranzBieberkopf that's based off of US reports

[@Tonydjjokerit]

@@FranzBieberkopf COVID and the Economy. But when the UK collapses. They will soon change their minds!

[@debbiegilmour6171]

​@@FranzBieberkopfI've told you elsewhere, but for the benefit of others, you're ignoring that turnout throughout Scotland barely brushed 50%. In actuality the portion of people who voted for unionist parties was around 30% of the electorate and many who would have voted SNP didn't turn out.

[@FranzBieberkopf]

@@debbiegilmour6171 How do you know they would have voted SNP? The percentage of Unionist voters may have been 30% of the electorate, but it was still higher than pro independence voters.

[@abhik099]

Quebec Will be free one day I believe it..

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Because is hard to be independent without external support

[@JMSouchak]

Most independence movements in 1st world countries are just like "independence because... derp."

[@RobitGalaxy]

sure pal, sure

[@danielwatcherofthelord1823]

Most of the largest powers are the primary determination is you will achieve statehood, unfortunately. Or I suppose fortunately if you have been allowed to create a new nation-state!

[@Heylo-714]

It worked for Ireland, it’ll work for us.

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Well UK in crisis after WW1. Miss opportunity for Scotland to declare independent

[@-._A2._-]

​@@mimorisenpai8540agreed we should have took our shot too. But we didn't. Ashame but we can't change history. Now we wait!

[@ahhlewis]

@@mimorisenpai8540 UK would not have let Scotland get independence after WW1

[@mimorisenpai8540]

@@ahhlewis well because Scottish not really big nationalist backthen

[@G.A.C_Preserve]

who are you? ireland was a mistake

[@richdobbs6595]

This too shall pass... There are various stresses with the current situation that could break down, and we could have another round of successful independence movements. Both Russia and China face demographic problems that could result in break down of central control. Just like it wasn't obvious when I was growing up that Yugoslavia and the USSR would break up, it seems hard to believe that Russia or China could break up, but they might.

[@DefinitelySpirit]

putting texas and palestine in the same thumbnail is crazy, its also pretty crazy how texas gets attention meanwhile california actually has a much stronger movement for independence

[@christianehmling5080]

The government loves the ideas of liberty and self determination until the peoole want it for themselves.

[@jmpht854]

Crystals shatter, even with developments in the global order over the past century things can reach a tipping point surprisingly quickly. Whether it's next year or a couple of decades from now, I strongly suspect we will see a wave of newly independent countries in the Horn of Africa, northern Eurasia, and East Asia at the very least.

[@Lombwolf]

You can never say never regarding geopolitics, anything is possible.

[@ChrisCleek]

Regarding Texas and California or any other state for that matter in the US. The US is a perpetual union by which i mean you can voluntarily opt in, but you can't ever opt out. You either need congressional approval(3/4 of all states agree) which is VERY unlikely to ever happen, or you declare war on the 49 other states by declaration of independence from the union and rejection of the federal Gov't authority.

[@Man-of-Steel674]

And lets be honest none of them wants to actually leave the union. Some people just overreact after an election.

[@diegoarmando5489]

"Un pay pour tout le monde." is actually a Québec Solidaire slogan.

[@ngamashaka4894]

I’m French Canadian. Before that, we were called the Canadiens, by the other group was called the British. They stole our name, among other things. Before that, we were called the French, the real French, the ones on the continent, referred to us as Habitants because we were the ones who decided to stay the whole year and endure the winter. We were friends with the Natives, and there are probably not many of us without some Indigenous blood. We were also Catholic and had large families to resist the occupiers. In the 1960s, we had a revolution that happened around the same time as Vatican II. Before that, we had some of the best schools in the world and sent missionaries everywhere. Now, since we don’t have children anymore, we will disappear in a few generations. So I ask you: what is the point of independence? Like many other nations, we will vanish because we decided that "modernity" was better than our traditions. The choice was made the moment we accepted Vatican II.

[@marteaupiquant3727]

Vive le Québec libre

[@Chinochet]

Yes, but I wouldn't say we exactly "chose" modernity. Although the "neoliberal" establishment is now somewhat supported by the majority of the population, it was a product of decades of subversive politics, achieved by the dominance of opinion-making institutions, such as the media and universities. And even when we were/are the majority, our will never manifested into reality. Surveys show that the majority of the population is against mass immigration, but we never even held a vote about it, did we? And solving the demographic collapse is not in the interest of the establishment. Yes, more native population means more labor, but there is always an alternative of foreign workers. Besides, foreign workers are willing to work for less since they come from impoverished backgrounds, and the "diversification" of the workplace means reduced cohesion, threat of unionization, etc. Furthermore, as you pointed out, the revitalization of our fertility would entail a return to tradition, which is of course opposed to their ideology and political power.

[@jeremytrepanier2202]

Québec never wanted liberalism, democracy or secularism it was imposed on us has progressive. But Québec people had no problem with religion and the more autocratic government of Maurice Duplessis, but the liberal Canadian government used liberalism has a tool to shame our different way of life.

[@diegoarmando5489]

​​​​@@jeremytrepanier2202 I don't know what you mean. Cité Libre had a strong sovereigntist contingent, and its legacy has influenced everyone from Quebec sovereigntists to Liberals to New Democrats to even Red Tories. (Hell, even the ADQ and the CAQ.) Pretty much everyone who's anyone in Québec and Canadian politics exists under the intellectual shadow of either Cité Libre or the Calgary School. The major reason that the PCs fell apart with Mulroney is that it's essentially impossible to keep Calgary School and Cité Libre people in the same party.

[@jeremytrepanier2202]

​@@diegoarmando5489 What I’m saying is thta Quebec, when it comes to its francophone population, has never had a grassroots desire for individual liberty or equality. The politcial history of Quebec has always been about the collective, specifically, francophones in Quebec defending themselves against any external threats. This was true after the English conquest and remains ture today. Because of this focus on external threats, the indiviudal’s position within the society is taken for granted and often seen as irrelevant. However, indivudal perception and experience of reality are central to liberalism. That’s why Quebec can appear both tolerant and intolerant at the same time, it’s an ideology without deep-rooted principles or internal logic among the people.

[@martinbelec1826]

Vive le Québec libre. PQ will probably take powervin 2026 and so we can expect a 3 referendum in the following years. The 3 referendum has a better chance of winning since the real question Québécois will have to answer is do we want to keep our language and culture or do we accept the death of our language and culture. I'm confident our people will choose life over death.

[@joaquinfernandez3347]

Why do you want to be independent? Just because you speak another language?

[@martinbelec1826]

@joaquinfernandez3347 not just a language but a 400 years of common history, 400 years of traditions, a sens of collectivity, civil law system unique to Québec, a solidly defined territory, democratic institutions for over 230 years, in all Québec has all the attributes of a true Nation thus it's desire to become a sovereign country.

[@louisinese]

Vive la Louisiane ⚜⭐💚

[@Love78787]

Freedom for Aegean Macedonia and Pirin Macedonia!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@lzh4950]

Singapore is probably unique at having independence given to it whereas it'd originally seeked autonomy instead (within neighbouring Malaysia), perhaps as the former was more vocal compared to Malaysia's other federal states & territories & thus Malaysia might've found it irksome. The ethnicities in both Singapore & Malaysia are the same though people in the latter may be more traditional while those in the former may be more cosmopolitan & Westernised. Gov't policies can be very different though e.g. Singapore doesn't have much affirmative action for native races now & its gov't is more neutral about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict (though some people may worry that it's also influenced by Israel having been willing to give Singapore military advice in the past)

[@babangteo2853]

There is no independency in that fully concept: for there are only self-determination right and self-governmental right, whether coming into fully international legal personality or as autonomous entity inside the existing states.

[@teostancu364]

Pretty sure Catalonia is already independent but unrecognised.

[@agnezabarutanski1963]

"Never" is a word that should never be used in any geopolitical context. Authors of this video should know that if they have even the slight understanding of history. As a Croatian, I can guarantee you that everything is possible, no matter how far-fetched it seems - we've been waiting for independence for almost 900 years, and here we are now, independent and on track to ruin this by being prone to corruption and bad political decisions, lol. 😅

[@pieegee8532]

you caused a war in the comment section because you mentioned some of these countries!

[@danielmalinen6337]

In Finland, the Sámi people and the island of Åland have their own separatist movements that seek independence, but experts have said that they can never become independent because the Finnish constitution says that Finland is an indivisible state that cannot be divided into smaller parts, because Finland would then lose strategically and economically important land areas if they would become independent, and since the era of nationalism is now over and states are now striving for unity and cooperation instead of independence. Plus, Finland has an eastern neighbor that would benefit from it if the Sámi people and the island of Åland became independent, and our neighbor should not be given that benefit and bow because it would be politically stupid. And that's why Sámi people and the island of Åland can only settle for limited autonomy in Finland because that's all we can offer them.

[@nexusanphans3813]

Yeah ofc the parent country would lose some of its areas. That's the point of every independence movement ever.

[@OceanPulsew]

Nobody in Åland wants independace. Stop the cap

[@XMehrooz]

You should've mentioned Kashmir in your Thumbnail

[@poshpolishpotato2976]

Western Sahara seems like it is unlikely to ever get independence as Morocco is not going to let up and has been gaining more recognition to their claims.

[@mfvieira89]

NEVER is a bit harsh... Portugal got independence from León, then there's the US, every Latin American country, Bougainville most recently, ......

[@mimorisenpai8540]

Portugal independent due to medieval state structure being more fragile than modern one. USA mostly thank to distance and external support from france. Bougainvillea still not independent yet.

[@AmineBerhail]

I am Algerian🇩🇿 and I am a free man in front of the world

[@Revitalization4241]

Free Kabylia Free Aures

[@deskcharity2869]

@@Revitalization4241 Free Palestine Free Texas Free Native Americans

[@Revitalization4241]

@@deskcharity2869 Free Rif, Free Kurdistan, Free Nineveh and free all native peoples from Arab imperialism

[@deskcharity2869]

@@Revitalization4241 Free Palestine, Free America, Free England and free all native peoples from Jew imperialism

[@deskcharity2869]

@@Revitalization4241 Free Palestine, Free Seminole, Free Seminole and free all native peoples from White imperialism

[@erikheddergott5514]

The only Revolution of 1848 that was successful happened in Switzerland. It had 3 Different Languages. A 4th was added in 1938. When Belgium broke away from the Netherlands it had two Languages: French and Flemish. So uniformity of Language is not as Important as you claim.

[@Someone42527]

There's a difference between independece and freedom. Texas isn't independent, but I doubt many people would say it's not free

[@cooperreid5317]

Great video, but I think you mean Xinjiang rather than Xiangjin at 7:54

[@jeremiedomenico]

VIVE LE QUÉBEC LIBRE ⚜️💙

[@louisinese]

Vive la Louisiane ⚜⭐💚

[@p4ndziu]

Kosovo and South Sudan would disagree

[@samankucher5117]

same in tigray near Ethiopia

[@Kaede-Sasaki]

Im partial to the old scottish royal flag (red lion rampant on a yellow background)

[@Kaede-Sasaki]

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[@Kaede-Sasaki]

Disappearance protection

[@Pod_in_cast]

It is very interesting that many revolutions to achieve independence lead to failure Poor people who try to make a good life for themselves by changing the government, but they don't succeed I think I should make a video about this Thank you for the very interesting video you made

[@friskjidjidoglu7415]

10:21 Louisiana was in no danger of leaving and even had bilingual policies for a long time. What happened was more like extra colonialism, if anything. 10:55 so”92% of Catalan voters” did not back the referendum, only 92% of 43% did, meaning that you had 60% of the eligible voting population not participate 13:45 you’re leaving out a big chunk of why many other states did not support the 2017 referendum (on top of it being a total mess): concern for their own territorial integrity. Catalonia succeeded, then every minority with a significant presence in the whole of Europe could feel emboldened. i’m not saying that Catalonia should not be it’s own state, just that their perspective. You also forgot about Valencia being part of that identity too. 15:43 while the euro is useful, it probably would actually be in Catalonia’s best interest to not join the euro. We have seen many states have joined the euro and have suffered from it. Different states that are use the same currency have to be able to be on the same page and he said or not, but that’s just not possible with an entire subcontinent

[@technomad9071]

we already have a Scottish pound and they can have their doomsday weapons we do NOT wan them!

[@thestrangerofmountains]

We Kurds will never give up. We were ignored by the west 100 years ago when they carved up the middle east and they betrayed us when we defeated ISIS. But we'll not give up. We win or we die. Always Biji Kurdistan ❤️☀️💚

[@jonathanrotem251]

Biji Kurdistan from Israel

[@Masked_Guy2811]

You guys and the iraqi and Syrian army couldn't do jackshit without American Funding and American airstrikes and Last time i checked ISIS has not been defeated as you say lol it still remains inside Syria and some cells inside Iraq

[@FrazzP]

Do you live in Europe or the Middle East? If you live in Europe you aren't winning anything.

[@SSMasseus]

@@jonathanrotem251 BİJİ DEATHİSTAN FROM HAMAS HEZBOLLAH love.

[@thestrangerofmountains]

@@FrazzP I live in middle east among my people.

[@Hession0Drasha]

I also think, the percentage of people in Quebec able to speak french, will decrease over time. As english and spanish tick up.

[@sans_hw187]

No, the percentage of people able to speak French should remain stable in Quebec, above 90%, because all children of immigrants have their education in French. What decreases is the percentage of people whose mother tongue is French. The same is happening for English in Ontario or BC. In Toronto, less than 50% speak English natively.

[@MarcoFHQ]

Came here for the clickbaity inclusion of the Palestinian flag in the thumbnail, only to find out the subject was dismissed in mere 10 seconds.

[@Ziorac]

He discussed all 6 regions shown, some more than others. But Palestine has been discussed so much recently, I can imagine he'd want to focus on the other 5 more.

[@wudubora]

The people are revolting.

[@aresgalamatis7022]

@12:00 Excuse me? Brexit was an independence movement? How so? Independence from who? If anything it made the UK more dependant on foreign powers and vulnerable to its enemies by exiting the most profitable trade block, alienating its closest allies.

[@-._A2._-]

Independence from the EU. Its stupid I know but still

[@akjdhajkdjhaghjkadh9804]

amazing video and great visuals too

[@mcgrudo]

AI written Clickbait. Reported. Anyone seeing this, I encourage you to do the same.

[@Bilbil_Billa]

You forgot to mention Kashmir

[@kzcciynk]

Independence for Pakistan occupied Kashmir

[@deskcharity2869]

@@kzcciynk Independence for India occupied Kashmir

[@deskcharity2869]

@@kzcciynk Independence for India occupied Uttar Pradesh Independence for India occupied Kerala Independence for India occupied Bengal

[@bloodspartan300]

What about northern ireland??

[@rasmushedberg3655]

3:53 GET O!

[@lsthero5863]

You flucker! On 2:06 I appear on the fricking video!

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

25:17 Iraq has agreements with Kurdistan. The Kurdistan Region of Iraq is a vassal state of Iraq, but has its own army, the Peshmerga, and government. The Kurdish in Syria also have an autonomous region called the Rojava, and I hope they too achieve legal autonomy in the new Syria

[@devanman7920]

Scotland just had a genuine vote and it didn't pass. I actually commend the UK for doing it. I have Catalan friends and the Spanish government would never allow the same thing there

[@insectslayer1374]

I didn't know that Jordan which was +70% of the British Mandate given to the Arabs to appease them and separate them from the Jewish portion as the two state solution, is not actually independent...

[@TheJosephPrice]

Yeah, funny that they cry for a Palestinian state but there already is an me, Jordan.

[@debbiegilmour6171]

​@@TheJosephPrice It was a massive cheek to be carving up other peoples' land arbitrarily based on outdated and facile colonialist ideas.

[@AhmedWaheed-pl3gt]

Jordanian and palastenian are two differenet people. To say they are same is like to say german and austrian are same people.

[@__coach__mike]

@@AhmedWaheed-pl3gtJordan is literally a part of the original Palestine landmass 😂it’s the same. The only difference is drawn borders.

[@genuscorvid]

@@AhmedWaheed-pl3gt Not exactly true. In 1948 Transjordanians were not too different from Palestinians. When Jordan annexed the West Bank in 1949 most of the Palestinians living there were quite happy with it. However, after 1967 it is definitely true that Jordan and Palestine have different destinies. Don't let Israeli propagandists use this historical progression to tell you Palestine is a fake country. The way national identity develops is very complex.

[@thefish560]

Quebecer here. The rise of the PQ is mostly due to the lack of control over foreign policy. Theres a million and a half more people than there was 5 years ago, yet the budget for "francisation" has been reduced. Plus, the current party, a right wing nationalist called CAQ, has been willing to spend public funds on any business deals, instead of spending them on the public sector.

[@marcuscalderon7784]

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[@christonngoveni8438]

Kosovo is still not a country as it has not been recognized as such, it operates like Taiwan, Somaliland, Kurds which is not a country

[@nexus-media.]

7:46 the moment he uttered the word paramount, I knew the script was ai written

[@samankucher5117]

say that to south Sudan tigray tywan and so on

[@MdIfran-be9jo]

Free for Texas

[@daviddelacruz1715]

¿Catalunya=Palestina? Tiene que ser una broma 😂😂😂😂😂

[@thenamesianna]

"Why modern independence movements always fail" South Sudan: Heh, speak for yourself losers

[@nicolasmarazuela1010]

In the last 25 years there were by the UN recognized independence movements: Timor Leste (Indonesia) and South Sudan (Sudan).

[@ghiorghetatarescu3649]

myanmar, Syrian kurdistan, and south sudan are recent succes stories. and if the west would just sanction the colony, palestine would also be free in no time but profits over humans matters more for them

[@samankucher5117]

same with somaliland and tigray .

[@genuscorvid]

In Myanmar's case very few of the ethnic armies are officially declaring independence. Most of them want a federal system.

[@samankucher5117]

@genuscorvid thats because no one will recognize them the new world order is not very open for changing maps .

[@gkkbgamer]

If any region of a country want's *Independence* then there's a major point of *Local support* and *United people* Take British India as a example, during the rule of British Empire on India, people were slaves of them but they couldn't do anything (or more like don't wanted to) because they weren't united, even when spark of independence took in India they were still not united, every region or princely state wanted to be a *saparate* independent nation and that is the reason why India got independence in 1947 instead of 1858, In 1800s people were pissed off from British rule and wanted to be independent but they didn't had one vision of independence *Independence of India* instead they were running for their own independence of the region/state where they were living or belongs to Marathi people were running for independence of Maratha land, Bangali were running for independence of their Bengali land that's why India get independence in 1947 when all over the India there was only vision of independence "Freedom of India" United people get freedom, divided people become slaves that's why Africans were slaves of Europeans

[@scpatl4now]

I would love to see Texas independent for just a year. It would be so horrible they would be begging to come back. Imagine Border checks at all borders with the US and Mexico (where TX would pay for that border) No US Federal money for TX projects, social security, Medicare etc which leads to The TX government would be so horrible no one would want to live under its ultra conservative (low tax) governance. People don't realize how much the US federal government moderates the TX government. Taxes would have to go up...a lot That would be unacceptable to the vast majority of residents left after the mass migration out.

[@Alexander-James]

How is Quebec not free? Give me a break

[@HalasterBlackCloak-u2w]

Given the history of yugoslavia it seems reasonable to conclude that trying to just throw a bunch of people with widely different worldviews and cultures together doesnt work. Im personally just kind of disappointed that the thibetans lost their country. Theres so many countries not recognized. Kurdistan, catalonia, quebec, the sàmi, khalistan.Taiwan of course.

[@gollossalkitty]

I think the reason is just that these revolutions take incredible amounts of time and effort, and we are being impatient. Palestine will probably be free within the next few years. Scotland and Catalonia will be free when the monarchists die off. Quebec won't and shouldn't be free. Kurdistan won't be free because it covers multiple countries. There's some pretty obvious reasons and they don't have to do with eachother.

[@elricbeaudoin7847]

Présentement, le Parti Québécois (pour l'indépendance) a une grande avance au niveau des intentions de votes. Beaucoup réalise enfin qu'il serait judicieux pour notre nation de faire l'indépendance, autant au niveau économique, que pour notre identité. Vive le Québec libre ⚜️

[@KR_Picaserica]

7:54 Bro pronounced Xinjiang as Xiangjing lollllll

[@louisinese]

I think its AI lol

[@Tonydjjokerit]

Not always true! Those countries will eventually get Independence but circumstances have to be right for them first. With Brexit, Scottish independence has now become viable again. It is also leadership as it is poor in the SNP!

[@aarontheamazing1985]

Versed which movement do you wanna see independent?