Why monkeys (and humans) are wired for fairness | Sarah Brosnan

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Fairness matters ... to both people and primates. Sharing priceless footage of capuchin monkeys responding to perceived injustice, primatologist Sarah Brosnan explores why humans and monkeys evolved to care about equality -- and emphasizes the connection between a healthy, cooperative society and everyone getting their fair share.
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[@softmanbat]

"If a monkey hoarded more bananas than it could eat, while most of the other monkeys starved, scientists would study that monkey to figure out what the heck was wrong with it. When humans do it, we put them on the cover of Forbes." - Nathalie Robin Justice

[@RubsNL]

I've seen the cucumber vs grape footage many times. Very interesting to hear from one of the researchers behind it.

[@ioncrops]

**Human Worker watches Human Politician getting all the grapes by the means of many lies** **Throws away the cucumber and shakes the fences**

[@earthgirl8917]

Nailed it.

[@kiyohshi6827]

Mhm

[@privatprivat7279]

Only if u fail to se! and mention... that the mental world we are forced to live in... is lead by these ancient monkey instincts... ur intelligent concious mind never haid the strainght to raise above its instincts because u were fighting to survive in this instinct driven world....and we indivudualy were onable to control these ancient instincts....i will be the monkey returning all the grapes and ask for a cucumber!

[@ioncrops]

@@privatprivat7279, of course, you'd be. You think of instincts as evil, I think of them as natural law, it is what it is for a reason, and my friend, you failed to see the reason. thus, your mental faculties would have failed you if you were to live in a harsh situation. i.e. on your own and in a harsh situation.

[@privatprivat7279]

@@ioncrops i dont se instincts as evil at all.its just a part of our human evolution.

[@davids.7567]

Quarantine brought me here. I've just started enjoying these TED talks.

[@iloveyouamberappel]

Its too bad the disadvantaged humans rarely work together. They are too busy trying to fight their way to the top of the bottom.

[@imrannazir6931]

But they do work together. Maybe your being fed news instead of finding out for yourself.

[@iloveyouamberappel]

@@imrannazir6931 Not "fed news". This is my observation. I've seen immigrants do it very well. Non immigrants seem to focus on themselves, especially when poor. It would make sense to have multi family in a single home but this is not the American dream and rarely done. Do you have evidence of the contrary? I've volunteered with homeless population for awhile and it is not common to see a group pool their resources to rent a home and provide food for the group.

[@imrannazir6931]

@@iloveyouamberappel I was taking about immigrants to do we are agreed 😁

[@f.e.5691]

IMHO, that's because they are in the 1st stages of survival: looking for food and shelter. Most of them did not have the advantage that we have to be properly educated with schools, books and cultural transmission.

[@iloveyouamberappel]

@@f.e.5691 Yes cultural transmission plays a big part and that's what needs to change. You see it with people of all stages, not just at the very bottom. People who are on the brink, rarely seek out others on the brink. Rather they look for services that will maintain the status quo. IMO education plays a part but it's not the main factor. The working together is missed altogether not just in stage 1 but when falling from ones perch.

[@shaminoranger8588]

There are definitely some people who LOVE unfairness and actively seek to dominate others. The same people cry about how unfair it is when their victims fight back.

[@imrannazir6931]

This is probably why some companies are opaque about salaries. Knowing you are not being paid fairly in the office might stop you cooperating with your colleagues.

[@backpacker3421]

The better approach is to be fully transparent and tie salary to position and seniority, and make it non-negotiable.

[@imrannazir6931]

@@backpacker3421 Salaries are transparent in sports teams yet they still cooperate, so another approach might be a culture change in the organisation where individual salary is not the only motivator.

[@a.j.williams195]

Lol she threw it back at her🤣😂🤣

[@cinnamon8884]

great talk - thank you!

[@joao_ricchio]

Very nice video. Good communication. Thanks 👍

[@guthrie_the_wizard]

Awesome talk!

[@kevinwells4986]

I loved this talk Sarah. But something snapped in me, maybe 8 months ago now. I had a minor stroke, and had to be bed ridden for awhile. I come from the corporate world. Now I work at a gas station.. I see a lot of this behavior that you are discussing among 'team mates' - even though we are a small store. It's very small angst that they hold really, because it is too noticeable when someone really get's worked up - but when I tell them I don't care about the pay, I just want to be moving - they can't understand that. There is a woman there that wants to 'move up'... I supported her from the onset. I support anyone that wants to do that. But it is very hard for most of them to understand my support. Even the 'bosses' have a little difficulty with it, but they are o.k. now. Anyway, you touched me because I absolutely believe we have similar community behavior to our primate 'brothers and sisters', and most of our needs and desires are very basic. But for this primate (me to be clear), it is very liberating to have been close to a near death experience, and live through it. (Update) I was nodding off after typing that... (age related) - but restarted and finished your video. The idea of the current protests being led from the bottom, not stymied from the top is somewhat liberating also. It seems logical, but the 'haves' and 'have nots' has been around throughout our history. The politicians will not give up their lucrative posts very quickly. Term limits has not been discussed in years, at least not brought to a vote. I think you have wishful thinking there. But anyway, I should have quit when I was (possibly) ahead. Great discussion though Sarah, and thank you for it. Happy Holidays.

[@selispeks]

This was so good!

[@angelic8632002]

Repeating 30+ years of research here, but if anything, this is more important than ever. We have known this for a *very* long time. Case and point: How societies with fair taxation and law systems have very low levels of crime and violent mental health problems.

[@robinfox9667]

... but, class warfare is so fun though! 🤪😜😝

[@bpri9880]

The top 1% seem to work well with each other, they will play musical chairs with each other and even the looser wins big, by loosing.

[@gonorsilvet2581]

Why do you think we are at the top?

[@24Deutschmark]

@@gonorsilvet2581 Brian was referring to content in the video; not self-aggrandizement.

[@MrZacchery]

This gives me a warm feeling.

[@deeksha8988]

Thank you ☑️

[@JohnnyFive626]

Great job! Very articulate and clear :) brava - and I see this in humans all the time...I manage several people that do not report to me ;)

[@kaielvin]

Sounds like the prisoner's dilemma.

[@DerXavia]

Prisoners dilemma is more of a blind pick for game theory, the monkeys are well aware of the other monkeys choice/reward

[@josephharden5592]

The aliens invented wealth disparity to study us 😂

[@DavidSanchez-vx4bv]

This goes even further: a system based on unequality (no matter if it is a social, economic or physical system) IS unbalanced and tend to crash... so if we are here is because we look (need) for balance. Let's try to find it in every aspect of our lifes.

[@josephharte]

But it's not fair if you're earning 50K while the other guy is earning 25K for doing the same work. That's not a sense of fairness, it's a sense of superiority.

[@ryangrider9607]

I could watch her videos all day long! Beautiful and brilliant.

[@yeetub]

Wow, this is very true. Very interesting video.

[@juandeluna1976]

*laughs in taking all the jellybeans from my siblings

[@DirtyBottomsPottery]

You had me until the end. 11:21 There is no rebalancing of the hierarchy within the system itself, because the system is designed to prevent that from ever happening. What an amazing presentation, right up until that last summary. Oh and it's the doctors of this world who are perpetuating this. Why be a doctor if you're being paid the same as others?

[@fuldagap22]

Wow, just wow!

[@theloulouverse]

What a cool area of study! Thanks Sarah 🐒🐵

[@ThomasTrue]

I sincerely dislike the term "survival of the fittest", because it is a social Darwinism term, first coined by Herbert Spencer, who was first and foremost an economist, who abused natural selection to fit his own "weakest to the wall" economic philosophy. Surely the point of natural selection is that the fittest survive - in the environment best suited to them? The man who coined the phrase "natural selection", Patrick Matthew of Gowrie, observed this through his work as an arboriculturist; he found that certain trees were suited to certain environments, but some would wither where others thrived, and vice versa. This of course teaches us that there are none 'better' than others, just more adaptable. I for instance would be lost in your work, but then I sincerely doubt you could do my job as a tax collector. Yet both our roles carry equal relative importance to society. To coin an old phrase, it is "horses for courses".

[@dauedlex1309]

Good study proves a lot about behavior in all species

[@hedgehoggreece]

While in whole I liked the hole speech, I found the example with the choice given between 50 K for them and 25 K for everyone else, or 100 K for them and 250 K for everyone else, quite misplaced. Money, in contrast with cucumbers and grapes have no intrinsic value. 1 billion is not enough to buy a gum if everyone else own quadrillions. Even when (or if) anyone disdains the seek of wealth, I bet there are very few (if any) people seeking to be poor. 100 K for the person and 250 K for everyone else would instantly make that person the poorest in the world! I believe that this survey can only be used in regards of the percentage of the people that understand basic economics, and not to view the fairness of anyone. If the same question though was rephrased using food or anything else that can be actually used, and not money, that argument could stand.

[@ArtemArlychenkov]

Totally agree with you!

[@tatiyana8934]

🐒- 🍇🍊🍌💕✌🏻 - This is my most favorit study)))) (Frans de Waal presented it in his Ted-speech - almost ten years ago...

[@20alphabet]

There's nothing fair about throwing crap at people walking past you.

[@twn5858]

Sure there is if they think you are the one who locked them in the cage.

[@earthgirl8917]

How come I don't give a damn on how much money others make compared to my very low income or if their salary is higher than mine for the same tasks? How come since I was a child the concept of ''fairness' bored me to death; when all the kids at a birthday party were trying to get the biggest piece of cake and/or fighting over one, or trading candy, I was catching mosquitoes in the yard? Explain, please.

[@ishitaagarwal3164]

Well she did said not all her capuchins cared about fairness. Plus studies are done to establish generals, no one said there cant be any exceptions

[@jayliu6076]

That makes you a less developed monkey, obviously!

[@freesk8]

It may not be about fairness. It may be about knowing something better (ie the grape) is possible as a trade. Seems to me that this is goes beyond the data..

[@broodkraut2745]

It's all about fairness after all. Would to some extend explain, why many people are angry at those big companies.

[@jason666king]

Except "fair" does not exist. If it did, this world would be a lot different.

[@broodkraut2745]

@@jason666king To what extend? I can be fair to my family, even though I am not fair in another way.

[@jason666king]

@@broodkraut2745 then that's not fair. You have made an uneven distinction.

[@broodkraut2745]

​@@jason666king So you mean objective fairness is not possible. Then, yes this is not possible. Atoms have different energy levels, Molecules are unevenly distributed. Some organisms have many cells, others don't. And yes, for the other group, which is at disadvantage it is also "not fair" if they know about it. The thing is, is this really the way we want to define fairness?

[@everydayjokes2321]

Joke of the day: What is the soft stuff between sharks teeth? *Slow swimmers.*

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

My conclusion: cucumbers are grossly under-rated, certainly not worth throwing away

[@Cecak99]

Perhaps when we try to find a reason from a nature, unless we assume there 'is' a moral value there, we are so naturally supposed to conclude that we make all those sacrificial decisions only because of economical benefits sooner or later. But I think excluding this assumption of existence of morality we easily lose many part of the truth. As for monkeys, I don't know. But at least as for humans, I believe we give up short-term advantages not just because we pursue a long-term and bigger rewards but also because we love and care for others and their emotions too. It could have happened because we care for the relationship.

[@f.e.5691]

Hello, I understand your point of view. However, not explained in the video is the natural selection mechanism: because we (and apparently other primates) need to work together in order to succeed, those (individuals or groups) that didn't do so in the early stages of humanity, they didn't reproduce and, therefore, those individualistic traits did not get transferred to new generations. Mostly those (individuals or groups) that cooperated got better overall results, and passed their traits to their offspring.This is the scientific point of view. You may also believe on God(s) creating humans as is. That's another point of view, which we should respect too.

[@Khenfu_Cake]

Empathy has also been observed in primates such as chimps and orangutans. So the love and care you are referring to is indeed also a thing in other animals 😊

[@maximmakarenko9967]

Hello?¿ Do you need a video editor for remote work in your team?¿

[@1musichombre]

That's pretty much the way it is. I only wish she had added a minute or two on any differences she may have observed between men and women.

[@ArubaSailing]

My dogs are the same way, I know.

[@netsherrera7193]

I was also thinking about dogs

[@jloren4647]

Monkey was like, " i can bring this human random crap, she will instill significance I get to tell stories of how stupid she is and she feed me anyway."

[@MakingUsThink]

She is the monkey

[@curious_one1156]

Well, all of us are....

[@Hey_Delight]

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[@privatprivat7279]

Best dreams and wishes for u aswell.

[@user-zg4on6iz6t]

You too❤ from South Korea

[@ivanostellato9478]

really?! then why have i been treated so unfairly and cruelly my whole life ?!?! where are the hyper galactic time lord police to jail these criminals and get me off this hellish world and safe and secure once and for ALL !!!!!!

[@ligiasommers]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏻💖🌷

[@muhamedhesham5173]

ik i can find the most smart and educated ppl here.. hi stay safe pls

[@privatprivat7279]

Hahaha😁 and the use of monkeys to show the point is freaking awsome.

[@muhamedhesham5173]

@@privatprivat7279 yeah bro

[@ishitasingh6492]

We all do better when we all play fair. 💕

[@jason666king]

Not true. And there is no such thing as "fair." You just end up getting your "peanuts" stolen by a stronger tribe.

[@cinnamon8884]

@@jason666king wrong.

[@Macheako]

@@cinnamon8884 right

[@cinnamon8884]

@@Macheako nope

[@Macheako]

@@cinnamon8884 yup

[@paulofurbringer4232]

Pretty awsome

[@CoryAllenKarcher]

Humans wired for fairness. :D Thats truly funny

[@curious_one1156]

Your saying this prooves humans are wired for fairness, else you as a human would not have cared enough to write this in the first place.

[@Macheako]

@@curious_one1156 what......

[@CoryAllenKarcher]

@@curious_one1156 Youve never played monopoly and it shows

[@RajdeepD10]

Hii

[@FynePr1ntWilliamsMUS1C]

I enjoyed this. Fairness is a big deal in my world.

[@nikhilPUD01]

I have experienced deja vu 🤔

[@connorjeter7363]

Liked the talk but I noticed that she didn’t mention the Mathew principle or the Prato distribution which are natural laws, not a concepts. I think our feeling of fairness is an act to combat the law. But it’s a ying to a yang

[@labulldog5]

@11:54 read: “take from the wealthy to give to the poor.” Redistribution just like Castro and Mao. Yay.

[@nave82]

Where is fairness when it comes to how we treat other animals and the planet as well?

[@flyingfig12]

human supremacy.. it's a sickness.

[@Sergio_deus]

Giving the monkey's attitude l would say its more like jealousy than fairness. l mean how are you so sure its one of the other,they are just monkeys. EDIT: as l say in my book, everything in the human/animal behavior its related to survival as a lesser common nexus. So in nature,your experiment, will mean not only a better or more tasty meal for one of them but directly less chance of survival by the monkey that is given just the cucumber. Even more, if you take by account the violent reaction of throwing out the food directly to the feeder.

[@BradElias]

This was not a fairness test, but a self-interest test. The cucumber was a drop in esteem and resources. Fairness would have the monkeys sharing grapes (only a few chimpanzees shared). It's still all about me. Give them a grape, but don't take mine.

[@DontmindmeImhereforthecomments]

Came here to get more educated on monkeys, got out with a life lesson instead

[@sichverteidigen]

NO MAKEUP? Awesome!!! Love it when a woman has a feel of true self worth.

[@Ablestreet]

You made an assumption about why this woman is not wearing makeup that could be completely wrong. There are other reasons for not wearing makeup. Some women just don't like makeup. Some may just have sensitive skin. Some don't wear it because they don't want to attract the attention of men. There are probably other reasons I haven't thought of.

[@sichverteidigen]

@@Ablestreet That makes no sense? I gave her a compliment. Most women hide behind make-up.

[@privatprivat7279]

@@sichverteidigen ur both wrong...and right....😁.sichverteidigen made a compliment based in the monkey instinct driven world we are living in now. ablestreet made an intelligent deeper conclusion with hes evolved concious human intelligent mind(that u both have!) 😁😊😁😊😁. I love u both !

[@Ablestreet]

@@sichverteidigen There you go again, making another assumption about why other women wear makeup. You just can't control yourself!!

[@sichverteidigen]

@@Ablestreet Are you stupid or dumb? They look better in make up BUT what is wrong without?

[@immanuelgodson7156]

We need more monkeys in the work place to make things fair

[@howardkoor2796]

Its all Relative

[@searchindex3438]

it’s not that they are wired for it …it’s that they have a culture as a domestic troop with limited roaming

[@robertvalderaz7329]

They share the same recees factor.

[@bossaliniex]

The current system doesn’t allow for fairness. It’s based on competition where one thrives at the expense of another....and it’s anything but fair. The truth speaks for itself. If humans are fair naturally, we won’t have that gap between the the rich and the poor. Humans are broken down in a hierarchy based on their financial and social status...and what’s considered fair only applies if it’s in the same level of the hierarchy.

[@invox9490]

7:31 And that's why more and more people just "earn" minimum wage. And the only reason they don't give you LESS than that, is because it would be illegal. ... But don't worry, Economists they are working around THAT too.

[@jesusistheanswer2074]

It's funny, makes me think of my husband, his co-worker makes more than him but the guy does less work all the time. It's ok though because we are all great full for what we do have

[@jason666king]

You sound very weak.

[@TeddyKrimsony]

and that is the christian mentality of pacifism

[@freesk8]

Reminds me of the story in the Bible about the farmer who paid his workers the same no matter how late they were hired. The later hired did less work, but get paid a full day's salary. The moral is not to be jealous. The deal was the deal. Don't look at what others got. Be grateful you got the deal you bargained for.

[@howardkoor2796]

Negotiation 101

[@claireosborn5289]

5th- also raad dinos

[@MrLoobu]

I tried to tell ozzie to trade something better so he ripped off my left arm and beat me over the head with it, then I realized it wasnt fair for me to act like their momma lolol.

[@theworldofchachundar5628]

Nani?

[@dumbledoor9293]

Well not ALL human care about fairness, and I'd say it is more like a grey scale than black and white. Also arrogance impacts the feeling of fairness a lot. So a person can think of them self as extremely fair, but the world might see them as extremely unfair. 🤔

[@Shazistic]

Remember!! Time heals almost everything -Shazistic

[@comochinganconesto]

Actually, time kills all. The poor first though, and if the other guy is dead... What's the problem?

[@101yayo]

If the monkey shared the grape than that would be fairness.

[@takeoUup115]

Yes , toss the cucumber out of envy , not fairness.

[@lc0597]

memento monke

[@meh2972]

4:54 This is a silly question with little idea of real economics because prices will adapt to the income level. In which case the latter is the basically the same as everyone making $25k and you only earning $10k. This makes the choice very obvious and the questioning flawed for assuming people do not inherently understand this reality.

[@bobsanders2145]

exactly. what good would 100k be if everyone else makes 250k? That is a biased survey.

[@aerobique]

"market economy" is what conditions us the opposite

[@freesk8]

Actually, market economies are full of cooperation. The corps that have workers who cooperate well together are more likely to make better products at lower prices for the people, and more money for shareholders. Market economies use both competition and cooperation. The opposite of a market economy is a centrally controlled one. And these are all based on force.

[@KyleFN]

This video coming out the day Congress decides to pass their pathetic $600 "stimulus checks" seems wildly appropriate ...

[@JadeTrading]

Watching monkeys sounds interesting

[@privatprivat7279]

Btw (i also believe, my theory is) our ancient monkey DNA we evolved from (coming from different species) determens the kind of human being and skills u are born with....rational/emotional religious/scientific mindset and thinking (ofcors u can evolve) but those are the core fundementals to me...we have dna from different species in us,but the next genaration(when a women based on mind or apearance...) chooses a man, to evolve the human species.. THEN our DNA decided what is the best human being possible to create....and what is the best possible human being to create from those 2 human beings....so lady's choose WELL! Anyone can follow my theory? Maybe add to it? Or think it is completely wrong? Or does it allready exist? i just came up with it.😊 (i also think that over time.. 100s of years the diffrent monkey dna's we have in us...comes on the forefront when its time for our next lvl sort of speak...)

[@theeternalstudent6582]

What is the whole point of this video? The speaker clearly states that human ability for fairness and comparisons are way more advanced than the primates. Yet she makes the feeble attempts to equate one as the other, or that it has evolved over time through species. That is a rather absurd way of going around it. For the last time, humans are not apes!

[@cinnamon8884]

why do you look like one then?

[@theeternalstudent6582]

@@cinnamon8884 You think that I look like one because you have mentally accepted to be one.

[@cinnamon8884]

@@theeternalstudent6582 no, you do actually look like one.

[@theeternalstudent6582]

​@@cinnamon8884 yes, your brain has evolved to see humans as only apes. Perhaps if you were born to proud parents or did something worthwhile, you wouldn't have to hide behind a fake name and see humans as apes.

[@AzEagletarian]

Relative deprivation?

[@ronaldcaliva5004]

We people must not assume that we're like monkeys,animals havent got conscience which humans do.

[@ayderallraqi7698]

Can I learn English because I am very bad with English

[@yubi-kun958]

Bruh, Anyone can learn any language available if given enough time and oral practice.

[@ayderallraqi7698]

@ Yubi-kun How does oral practice mean? Can I translate every word you write in order to respond? My family does not speak English How do I set it on your way and if I learn I will be grateful to you

[@yubi-kun958]

@@ayderallraqi7698 Try this thing: Make Instagram stories with front faced camera and speak Literally anything in English or describe your Day. Do this every day. It will really help trust me. Make a new Instagram account and private it so you can practice daily.

[@yubi-kun958]

@@ayderallraqi7698 Learn basic vocabulary from movies, books etc. And do what I said in above comment. First some days, Your mind might go blank and not be able to speak anything, But it'll REALLY HELP. Try for 25 days at least.

[@ayderallraqi7698]

@@yubi-kun958 Thank you very much, where are you from, and are you a boy or a girl 🌹🤗

[@MegaMusicMuse]

Horrendous how we treat these beautiful, intelligent, sentient creatures; keeping them in plastic cages. We should study ourselves more and accept that humans are horrible.

[@sandranosocialism1780]

@Nicole I too kept thinking about the unfair human keeping monkeys in a cage for a meaningless experiment.

[@MegaMusicMuse]

@@sandranosocialism1780 Humans need to stop seeing themselves as better than other species and instead recognize their place as protectors, not conquerors.

[@rompevuevitos222]

Well, being fair (seewhatididthere), another monkey would snap his neck to steal his food, so it isn't like scientist do them that dirty in comparison

[@MegaMusicMuse]

@@rompevuevitos222 It’s about how WE treat non-human animals (NHA). We can’t justify our intentional and manipulative cruelty to NHAs because they deal with themselves, among themselves, in a certain way. NHAs are not here on this planet for us to poke, prod and torture them. They have a right to be here and respected as much as we do.

[@sandranosocialism1780]

The human teaching us about fairness while keeping an animal locked up to study it. The irony of this video is a 10

[@ronandmary8678]

Sugars.... mike drop

[@bobsanders2145]

well what good would 100k be if everyone else makes 250k? That is a biased survey.

[@GuitarZombie]

I would call this jealously or envy

[@rompevuevitos222]

But billionaire corporations getting millions in bailouts while citizens get like 600 a month is completely ok for whatever reason

[@freesk8]

Billionaire corporations make billions of dollars of products that people want to buy...

[@rompevuevitos222]

@@freesk8 Then why do they need to be paid extra millions by the goverment? they are doing pretty well already and even with the pandemic people still NEED to buy from them, so they definitively don't need MORE money People also buy from local business, but you don't see the goverment helping those, only the bigger ones

[@freesk8]

@@rompevuevitos222 The corps should not be subsidized. But they should not be taxed, either. No one should.

[@rompevuevitos222]

@@freesk8 The point of a society (which we live in) is to help each other, taxes are the way capitalism handles that The government then uses those taxes to improve city infrastructure and the like Without taxes then it would literally be a "everyone for themselves" kinda world, since a capitalist goverment literally can't operate without money

[@freesk8]

@@rompevuevitos222 The only legitimate things the government should be doing, police, courts and national defense, should all be funded by voluntary contributions. Not theft, aka taxation. Force is not a way to run a civilized society.

[@stringmj]

Sorry Folks, the world is not a fair place, never has been, never will be. To get your fair share, be willing to work for it, but be aware someone might take what you have worked hard for, someone might take what you have worked hard for and will give it to someone who has not worked at all. Welcome to planet earth. Fair...? Nope.

[@maxwelldillon4805]

It isn't 100% fair now, but that doesn't mean we can't or shouldn't strive to make it more fair. I would argue the world today is more fair than it was in the past, and that trend can, and should continue.

[@Zoomo2697]

“It is absurd for the Evolutionist to complain that it is unthinkable for an admittedly unthinkable God to make everything out of nothing, and then pretend that it is more thinkable that nothing should turn itself into everything.” G. K Chesterton

[@Sahilbc-wj8qk]

Monopolies .

[@zhee666]

Maybe those monkeys were getting same rewards all their life, so they got used to it? Maybe if they were givven different rewards all their life- they wouldnt be jelous?

[@dmitrizaslavski8480]

But the bad part that how they perceive fair... So either this talk is propaganda or she is bad scientist...

[@jason666king]

Exactly.

[@maxwelldillon4805]

I'm not sure what you mean?

[@cinnamon8884]

he`s just talking rubbish.

[@terrywheelock9458]

Humans and Monkeys are not "WIRED" for fairness, they have the "CAPACITY" for fairness, they are wired to SURVIVE, whether they CHOOSE to override that wiring is a CHOICE! They are wired to be SELFISH to survive, whether they grow out of it OR not is a choice! So what you are actually saying is Humans and Monkeys don't wanna get SCREWED in any deal!

[@freesk8]

Wise primates can see that it is wise to be fair. You will wind up serving your own interests in the long run if you are fair. So, in the long run, it is selfish to be fair! :)

[@terrywheelock9458]

@@freesk8 Nope, because the definition of their fair is "socialism", it takes out the reward of hard work! What they are doing is BS! What they are putting forth will ALWAYS end in conflict! The "idea" is great but the application NEVER works! 🤣

[@Artur-jh3zp]

Is it fair to exploit monkeys to please our curiosity?

[@ukharra]

4:57 O, really, irrational desicion? Please, tell me, oh smartest human, how much will cost a bottle of water, if all other humans in your country (or even Earth) will have a salary of 250k. Did you heard about economics, inflation, wealth distribution? I tell you this: if every one is earning 2,5 times more money than you do then guess what - you are in poverty.

[@garycarlisle7810]

No one's mentioned the 80/20 rule

[@aliceapathy]

That is just what i was thinking!

[@gigteevee6118]

This is fascinating, but how does it explain right wing selfish values of them Vs us at all costs?

[@10aDowningStreet]

This is the reason right wing, conservative economic policy always fails to enrich the well-being of populations

[@MrLoobu]

I want to know, if we really care, why are we the only animal that cant find balance and KNOWS it isnt living fairly compared to anyone around them?

[@robinfox9667]

Fulfillment is fleeting; "life is disatisfaction" - the Buddha " ... but ours, go to eleven!" - This is Spinal Tap