Why Multiversus is NOT a Smash Clone

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Stop by the discord and make some friends! Going to be doing Multiverse game nights all this week! discord.gg/t2d2Ubbgqr

[@kazzuukie]

As a Velma main I want to commit arson on you for having a different opinion

[@icefhy]

You could try any characters in the lab

[@akilcharles3473]

I wouldn't go and say Nick all star Brawl is dead, it's more on lfe support giving that how the devs are still bring more characters and stages even tho not many players are still playing the game. Unlike Multiversus the game hasn't fully come out yet, with their being still some bugs they need to be fix and other characters to add in the game. But by the looks of things this game might last a lot longer Nick Brawl and other dead Smash clones, but like you said time will tell.

[@Kitsu-vk3of]

I saw you on Reddit! I’m glad that people are trying to just let it be in the same genre and not a clone

[@KindofBradAtThis]

@@Kitsu-vk3of well said !

[@BendyPP]

I think multiversus will last much longer, I've already spent more time on multiversus than I have on nick all stars. All stars felt, and still feels kinda clunky and weird. It's not a terrible game, it just doesn't feel super smooth and as fun as smash, or multiversus. Nick all stars felt almost like it was fanmade if that make sense. Multiversus doesn't. Edit: Nvm the game fucking died lol Edit Edit: Is ok it comes back soon. This comment aged reaaal well man.

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Agreed!

[@vinkennest3274]

in all honesty. i like all star brawl more than most smash clones or multiversus. graphical in models its better. voices were added and dlc gives hugh neutron. look its dead for most people. there are a lot of people, in the community which houses 8000 people, who disagree with the dead argument. its still fun to play and i didnt put it down since

[@KindofBradAtThis]

@@vinkennest3274 fair enough! We should play sometime!

[@knuclear200x]

The only things that would make it worthy are more standard attack combos and the ability to dodge.

[@VYNYL_Music]

I agree, and as you’ve stated, it’s very smooth on how it runs. Additionally, it’s mechanics are different from the normal platform game, especially with the fact each character is uniquely different, you can add modifiers to your character, and the fact that charging up attacks even exists to add new routes for other crazy stuff. This game is so fun in 5 different levels it’s gonna last

[@pootisperson7408]

Tom & Jerry have to be the most creative character in this game, tom and Jerrys moves just being them constantly trying to kill each other is amazing, the noises tom makes when he gets knocked out are hilarious and do a good job at paying homage to the original cartoon. best character 10/10

[@shenking6077]

Facts

[@Wolta]

Yeah, their animations are some of the coolest I've seen in fighting games.

[@HelloImIsac]

In case y’all don’t know you can try a character before purchasing them by going into the lab and selecting the pencil by your character icon

[@sandhudental]

and also in custom games

[@HavenJaede]

Thank you!!!

[@royhatcher7766]

Yeah I'm glad someone else said that lol. I didn't wanna be that guy xD lol. But fr I actually wished they warned us that the "default" characters get switched around so you'll need to save gold if you want to play that same "default" hero when they lock them up and make other characters the "default."

[@HavenJaede]

@@royhatcher7766 bro I totally agree! I went to go play my main, Jake, and was confronted with a purchase screen! Luckily I bought Tom & Jerry, and Garnet (highly recommend). Also if they let people know, it would've made the atrociously priced founders packs, somewhat viable! But I'll just grind, no problem!

[@finalistgamesandmore9608]

That and this kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWKYZWCnash1ipo

[@xensley]

Tom and Jerry is such a unique character design it roped me into multiverses so much bc of how detailed that character alone is.

[@xensley]

Every attack being an attempt at Jerry’s life is the chefs kiss of character design

[@AmeButCool]

I am really shocked you didn't mention what seems to be the main gameplay difference. To me it seemed like the massive difference MultiVersus was going for is making teamplay fun. In Smash all I ever want to play is 1v1, but when you look at MultiVersus you see all this team synergy put into not only the perks, but right in the characters move sets as well. In my eyes the team play with a friend is what really separates MultiVersus from Smash for me.

[@Anonymous-73]

The best thing to ever come from smash Team Deathmatch is the infamous Wombo Combo

[@Matislavio]

True! I went to 2v2 as my first online, not even sure why I think it was recommended by the system, and maybe it's my luck but was paired with people playing tanks and damn it felt good! It really felt like a duo game, and it was quite easy to work around the toolkit of my partners even though we were two randoms with no communication. I don't know how characters other than brawlers work in 1v1 environment, but they definitely did their homework on making the team gameplay solid.

[@nick15684]

This is very true. It's easily one of the biggest aspects of multiversus that makes it stand out.

[@MrCcsboy]

Exactly. As much as people love competitive 1v1s. A game is nothing without the casuals

[@SipherX05]

Smash also has 2 on 2 though.

[@yuvalamir3226]

The moveset of Tom and Jerry is straight up genius. There are so many little nuances to each ability they have, with multiple variations depending on the state of Jerry, yet it all flows together incredibly well. I don't think I've ever seen a character like this in a platform fighter. Extremely intricate yet very intuitive when you get the hang of it.

[@xjun91]

You'd also like Iron Giant moveset then. All his moves aren't him fighting actually since IG hates fighting if you seen the movie. All his moves are accidental.

[@OhBlivEUn]

It blows my mind that they make it look and feel like Tom and Jerry are fighting one another and that everybody else is just in the crossfire

[@coreyjackson3462]

I brought this point up to my friends, he feels completely different from any duo character in smash, ice climbers, dog, banjo, Olimar (ehhhh probably not a duo character?) Yah get the gist, tom and jerry is hella unique. I'm not too experienced on othe fighting games besides mk and soulcaliber. Fantastic design.

[@tedsdead816]

@@coreyjackson3462 He's one of my favorite characters and I see what you mean. I will say tho that all of those other characters are partners besides from ice climbers not really duo characters. Just characters with another person there. Duck hunt only uses duck for recovery, banjo mostly the same. Ice climbers is the only true duo character IMO.

[@SketchSpooks]

The fact their gimmick is just you getting in THEIR way is my favorite aspect. It's incredibly creative and something I think is handled better than other plat-fighters: the attention to detail

[@theoutlaw2099]

THIS is how you can do a live service game correctly. Spending money is optional, but not at all necessary, and the core experience is very polished.

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Stop stealing the thesis of my next video lmao

[@theoutlaw2099]

@@KindofBradAtThis 😂

[@whiffunderscore703]

doesn't stop Jim Sterling from hating it lol.

[@derpin2879]

I understand wanting to have the option of refunding characters and it should be in the game but they do have the option to play characters before you buy.

[@KindofBradAtThis]

allow me to go bang my head into a wall

[@TerceiroMundista]

@@KindofBradAtThis lmao

[@roboticminer8843]

Came to the comments to say the same thing.

[@Jeremy-bt8lo]

Where I didn’t even know you can?

[@TerceiroMundista]

@@Jeremy-bt8lo The Lab. You can test any character and skin there

[@deer-fm2bd]

I really really hope Multiversus doesnt fall off. The character variety is soooo fucking good. And God i really do think Walter White should be added, fans made title cards for him with some poison tech (ya know meth) added as his specials or perks I think.

[@vivelespatat2670]

Jesse, we need to beat up a cat and a rat

[@smallfryskilledge1550]

I mean it’s not a stretch to add him, they put in lebron who isn’t a fantasy/ cartoon character

[@theclaudfather6436]

They're adding Gizmo from Gremlins. This game already died...

[@biologicalsubwoofer]

The amount of different characters with their fun differences is enough to make you want to play this game. I can't wait to see who they add in the future!

[@Valnanailo]

I will say for the character "purchases", in practice and now local matches, you have access to the full roster, meaning you can experiment a bit when you get the coins before your choice

[@LucDaMan4]

W gamemaking, this also means you can practice what to do against every character

[@lightningpenguin8937]

Unfortunately you can't play both local, and online at once. That really kills the cake for me since I need to do both to play games like these more then 1v1 with family.

[@craig7405]

@@lightningpenguin8937 i was surprised when i found this out as well. they will probably add this soon.

[@imStorm3r]

@@lightningpenguin8937 if you are playing on Steam you and a friend can use the remote play together feature which lets you stream the game to their PC and play as if you 2 were playing locally

[@kryptic918]

The thing I like most is that every once in a while the game raffles characters you can play for free without playing coins and it’s nice if you wanna try out some characters

[@hsalfesrever3554]

What you said about Tom and Jerry is spot on with how I felt when I tried out Iron Giant, I just love watching him do his moves and I was smiling ear to ear just seeing all the neat refrences they put in and a really nice attention to detail with him is when he gets out off his rage mode he looks distraught and looks at his hands with a sense of "What have I done" just like in the movie

[@duplicpapers8753]

Please tell me ur not a iron giant main

[@RotaAbyssian]

Totally agree with the IG take. He was the character I was most worried about being bastardized character wise, but they did it in a way that it totally believable for me.

[@kaunta_21]

I can't wait to see all the characters there going to be adding to this! I'd love to be able to play as Ben 10, Fred Flinstone, and Popeye! Would also love to see the unique interactions like if Popeye and Shaggy were bragging about how strong they are

[@flclhack]

my dream character is pennywise the dancing clown

[@SeelsOfElation]

Ben 10 and Flintstone are datamined so you’ll get them

[@823sanction]

Dude I was thinking of Mordecai and Rigby and maybe even gumball they could even add courage the cowardly dog!!

[@boog7305]

@@823sanction kids next door and Ed edd n eddy***

[@oxbow9877]

Here’s how I see it: If you want to play a platform fighter as your favorite video game characters, play smash. If you want to play a platform fighter as your favorite movie, cartoon, or tv show character, play multiversus.

[@phantomgamer9264]

One little thing about movesets is the fact they are grounded and aerial versions, but they can change completely compared to Smash. You get more in a moveset with this type of idea. Steven can make a healing pool and overtime a Watermelon Steven appears as an ally and fights with you, but if you use his down special in the air he rides around on a shield

[@finalistgamesandmore9608]

it’s Almost finished kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWKYZWCnash1ipo

[@cephery8482]

Characters actually have less moves in this game. A standard smash character will have: Jab*, Ftilt*, Utilt*, Dtilt*, Fsmash, Usmash, Dsmash, Nair*, Fair*, Bair, Uair*, Dair*, SideB*, UpB*, DownB*, NeutralB*, Fthrow, Bthrow, Uthrow, Dthow, pummel, final smash. A multiversus character only has the ones with an asterix plus the 4 specials have air versions. Thats 16 compared to 22 with 12 being the same. How it gets away with it is 1: moves are way more extreme, they’re fast, big, quick and strong quite often, especially compared to their smash counterparts. This doesnt leave any characters feeling particularly vulnerable due to lacking the right moves (although i do with they’d give superman a landing option). Secondly half of an MV fighter moveset is special moves, the moves that exemplify the characters the most, it gives every character such a strong flavour factor, even more than smash, it’s such a strong hook for character fans over fighter fans.

[@cephery8482]

TLDR: smash has more moves but because they’re more moderate and fewer of those moves are specials the multiversus cast feel more like their characters of origin than the average smash character does.

[@torpid2906]

@@cephery8482 thanks for the tldr cuz that wall of text looks intimidating

[@Eking-su3tr]

The movesets for all the characters are completely unique. Iron giant is a pacifist so all his attacks aren't really attacks, just scenes from the movie. Tom and jerry literally attack themselves to fight, now we got lebron with basketball and rick with portals.

[@0tterspace]

ts Honestly, I'm having a blast playing this game. When I started two days ago, I've played it with a buddy for like.. 6-8 hours, and then continued with 1v1s for another 4-6 hours, for a total of 12 hours. I'm a huge smash fan too, although I can't play it online at home because Nintendo doesn't like my internet, even though I have no problems with any other online game. It's f2p and available on several devices, if you look at what characters are leaked, the excitement gets even bigger. There's not a ranked mode yet, but it still has that competetive edge that I love, especially with a rank being available. The only thing I dislike about the game is people abusing their characters in unfair ways. (Faz with his tornado, although as a Jake main, that's no problem. But those Batmans that only fight while their throw thing is thrown is so fucking annoying while being so fast too.) All in all, I think it's gonna last for a good while, and if WB is smart and dives into the eSports scene with it as well, they're gonna be the #1 fighting game with ease, as Nintendo is more anti-community and eSports than anyone else.

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Agree with all of this, especially the end! The game has a LOT of potential and it’s only in beta form! Well said all around :)

[@Ricepad]

Isn't there a Multiversus tournament coming to Evo on Aug 2022 that has a $100,000 prize pool?

[@AliAli-gz3ez]

@@KindofBradAtThis lol

[@T-Trux]

Well I might be one of those people that abuse the hell out of the moves like iron giants cannonball. Srry…

[@ButtMuncherer]

@@Ricepad I'm pretty sure there is. The devs have made it very clear that they want to listen to the community and give them what they want. They've talked about going into eSports as soon as possible and have also said they want to consistently pump out content for the game.

[@Josh-md1bc]

Multiversus could last years. WB makes pretty great games. The only problem is that they inevitably stop updating them after they figure out a ‘better’ method to advance in gaming. Like what happened with injustice. It could easily have a successor down the line. But I really hope that’s not the case. Just like in fortnite, you don’t always need to make a huge step up among another game. That can backfire hugely. Especially in a game that incentivizes you to grind for cosmetics. Let’s just hope this game keeps up the attention to detail and love.

[@sherwinceleste1707]

They won't do that, free to play games is designed to last as long as possible. Unlike injustice where they can't justify to update it anymore because the only playerbase are the ones who paid for it which is very little compared to f2p.

[@alicebluenote1438]

@Mirsty I mean, so far I've been enjoying multiversus more than I have ever enjoyed smash due to the 2v2 nature, and lack of shields. But you are entitled to your opinion.

[@egekazkayas8968]

@Mirsty except smash is actually a terrible game and no company is more corporate than fucking Nintendo, mfs could sue people for having the name Mario and no one would be surprised.

[@sonicthehedgehog1606]

@@egekazkayas8968 smash isn't bad

[@sonicthehedgehog1606]

@Mirsty "game bad because it similar "

[@FridgesBroken]

I’ve been playing multiverses for 2 days and honestly it’s definitely alot of fun. The perks don’t you 100% overpowered, It’s not fully P2W, the representation (gameplay, memes, references, and more) is amazing. SSBU seems like a sweaty game because of the things you can do, but multiverses seems fair for everyone. I definitely enjoyed playing bugs because of the movesets and because i just love bugs in general. Multiverses is one of those games that get you excited when you’re dominating in the match. Multiverses is definitely worth it 👍

[@kobain5042]

Not fully PTW? Wdym not fully it’s not pay to win at all lmao

[@dragon_bro_0]

@@kobain5042 Mostly agreed. You can't downright pay to get perk, and you get perks quite fast for the characters you use. However, the premium battle pass gives out XP boosts.

[@cole9067]

@@dragon_bro_0 sorry but if you PAY to unlock perks that literally take like 15 games to unlock, you are a full blown autist

[@despair2137]

I'm a Finn main myself. Loved Adventure Time, and felt good in his playstyle. Bugs is also a great character, and I 100 percent agree with your point. Keep up the niceties, Doc!

[@typicalhitman4115]

@@despair2137 lol fin and bugs are both characters they make me cry when I fight them but i still love the game

[@cantmakeacreativename2072]

The thing is you can tell the developers of Multiversus really tried and put care into the game. For All Stars, there was likely some attempt at putting care into it; but it feels like Nick just rushed the game out before it got time to properly cook in the oven.

[@troykv96]

Considering they the release window, it definitely feels like All Stars was released because Nick wanted it NOW, but is quite obvious the game wasn't fully complete, I think the developers themselves said that the game could feel like a different experience like a half a year after release, which were kinda right considering the voice acting was actually done. Oh Nicklelodeon, you're so annoying and dumb... why are corporations so desperate when it's obvious the project isn't 100% ready? I guess Nickelodeon doesn't really care about it's reputation.

[@edwardzhou8590]

classic nickelodeon. rarely cares about quality. if it’s quick money then they do it. losing audience trust for short term money. they are going down bc of the smarts of wb making a free and heartfelt game.

[@cetitanenthusiast776]

iirc, the team that created NASB cared a lot, Nickelodeon themselves didn't care at all. They barely had any funding and had to basically beg to get the characters that they got.

[@Foster_Cinema]

I think the game can have longevity if there's some tweaking to the amount of currency gained per 1v1 match. Keep in mind, you get a REALLY small amount of Gold per match in that mode. Which makes the main goal of unlocking characters far more tedious than it should. Teams however, that's fine. Especially if you play with a friend. Another thing I'd like to see is something beyond the for modes we already have. I know that's asking a lot, but when talking about pure love and respect, Smash Bros is one of the most beloved video games ever. So this game has to work extra hard to having more than half the staying power. That said, I've been having a blast. Been playing it with a friend who was SUPER excited about it and we've been making a great team. Might participate tournaments, who knows. 👀👀

[@justan0therviewer]

You get coins for leveling up on each character. I think that adds money and encourages trying out every character

[@roy5149]

The game has been in beta for like 5 days I am sure that a month or two will add tons of things like character or season challenges, rank play, etc to help with the grind

[@davon4647]

It’s free to play tho so like why complain

[@shwembo]

It's free moron it's gonna be a grind

[@Foster_Cinema]

@@davon4647 it's more so just an observation since this video was discussing it's longevity, I was just throwing my hat in the ring in what I see that's could be a problem for that.

[@NedInYaHead]

As much as Nick has given it a bad name, Player First have been AMAZING with their marketing, keeping the hype train going long after most games would have been forgotten, but also doing it in a way that doesn't leave a sour taste in people's mouths. Also, Tony Huynh is a wizard when it comes to PR, he seems to have an uncanny understanding of how to pick the most valuable issues to address when people are bringing them up, and does so with great frequency, so players feel heard and appreciate it more. On top of that, their product stands on its own and clearly has a lot of love put into it, meaning players who find it are more loyal and will have a higher chance of recommending it to a friend.

[@bigchungus7050]

Found player firsts burner account

[@Transport4ThatDumpTruck]

@Lee yes the hype will die down like with every game That's to be expected? And you just sound salty with that statement Or just have a negative look on everything new? How do you know it won't last long? I mean shit all they have todo is keep the content coming And listen To players Look at brawlhalla Yeah its not popular as it was but its still very alive after all these years I expect multi verses to have a decent amount of players even years from now

[@sundownermgr]

I love how they presented the characters in their movesets. Also, they fact that they pulled off the Iron Giant without making him small to accomodate the size of the other fighters makes me hopeful that other characters that vary in size could be playable later. Edit: jesus fucking christ i started a war in my replies. Also get gud sage

[@Choomba78]

I'm hoping that they can add Legendary's Godzilla, and King Kong in the future.

[@voppic2]

​@@Choomba78 not to sure but I think I heard godzilla was in the game files already which should be cool

[@hedidit55]

Godzilla, King Kong, and another giant character that I forgot -- are already datamined

[@finalistgamesandmore9608]

it’s finally here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWKYZWCnash1ipo

[@justsage3204]

Bro. Not to sound toxic. But Iron Giant is way to OP rn. The game is good but still needs some adjustments to characters. Iron Giant can literally win a 2v2 by himself.

[@harrylane4]

Multiversus’ emphasis on dodges and approach to recovery reminds me a lot of Rivals of Aether, and anything that makes a game more like Rivals is a good thing

[@EpicCamraMan]

Smash is smash for video game characters Multiversus is smash for tv and movie characters

[@Qrocks]

In my opinion, these kind of “smash” games should be pushed toward those who loved smash growing up. Nickelodeon really only has a few characters that people truly resonate with in comparison to that of WB, especially opening it up with third party characters too. DC, Looney Toons, Game of Thrones, Rick & Morty, Scooby-Doo. People love seeing their favorite characters in games and not only does WB have more of a chance to do it than others but I think the gameplay may evolve with new gamemodes and maps based around every character drop? Maybe? Hopefully? Seems like a great marketing model, F2P with battlebass in this type of game works imo

[@Disbelief_]

also the fact that the creators of Multiversus want to do more characters then just warner bro characters

[@luidace3236]

I think Nick missed the mark with the characters, but Multiversus got it right on the money. Nick only had 3 SpongeBob characters, 2 Avatar characters, and 0 Jimmy Neutron characters when it came out. Multiversus has Tom & Jerry, Shaggy, Bugs Bunny, Batman, etc.

[@PeterGriffin11]

@@luidace3236 No Fairly Odd Parents either.

[@jeffdakilla]

You describe my feelings towards Multiversus and All Stars Brawl perfectly. Amazing Video!

[@KindofBradAtThis]

thank you for the kind words!

[@zeen9505]

Multiversus has the advantage of being ftp and a lot more regular content updates. Player First Game is so responsive and nice to their community, I feel like this has soooo much potential

[@grady6254]

I love that Iron Giant, like Tom and Jerry, also isn't actually attacking. All of his moves except for the goober mode are actual things that happen in the movie where IG is just being himself

[@n00bleaker19]

The combination of f2p and nostalgia was already a great way to start this game, but the most important thing is that the playerbase will be enormous considering the full 3 platform cross-play. Not even mentioning they're already setting a quick content update pace AND seem to be taking the competitive side of the game seriously.

[@valldogounawan3586]

I love multiversus! Like the game itself is hella fun. I rarely enjoy a fighting game, cause i have an anger issue. But multiversus just different, like you said that this game has a lot of easter eggs in it. Even if i lose, sometimes i just laugh cause the characters are mocking each other. The combat is fun as well! I played NASB for a month, and i kinda enjoyed it at first. But after i participated on closed alpha multiversus, the combat mechanics that multiversus has it just more smooth and more fun to play. Also, i get your point. Sometimes you can feel the grinding in the game when you want to unlock new characters, but it's worth your time to grind! And for a tip, you can just check the characters which you want to unlock on the lab and try it before you buying it! I kinda feel that this game will long last, cause unlike NASB this game hasn't official released, but they already introduce new 3 characters to us (Lebron, Rick, and Morty). And it's free, it's not a dlc. You just have to grind to unlock it like the others :)

[@asradinsky]

8:37 you can test any character in the lab even if you don’t own them. Also rivals of aether is another successful platform fighter. It also doesn’t have shields or universal grabs, just like multiversus. It’s very fun, I would also recommend trying it out, although it isn’t free like multiversus

[@Taziod]

People keep saying this but have you ever played a fighting game before? Mashing combos on a stupid target dummy is not a good way to get a feel for a character. It needs to be more. Tons of people are going to see a tournament or a trailer and go "wow that character is cool I want to play them" and then not even bother when they realize they need to jump a bunch of hoops just to try them against a real human opponent.

[@asradinsky]

@@Taziod damn you’re stupid stupid huh? Practicing combos on a dummy is the perfect way to get a feel for a character. For starters, it’s the only way to see the character’s moves for yourself before you decide to buy them. And I’ve played multiple fighting games, and yeah the neutral will come with experience, but at the end of the day, if you can land that first hit, it’s about finishing the combo. You can’t practice combos on a real person before you actually know how to do it

[@don9718]

@@Taziod You can change the bot character and make it fight, you can also change the difficulty on the bot. Sure it's not a human player but it goes a long way in making you get a feel for the character

[@ghoulofthebeat4946]

You can also play all of the cast in local play with a friend so you can practice them. The labs functions are, while not as in-depth as smashes yet, really good for testing new characters.

[@terrakage4462]

@@Taziod I mean no one will be good the moment they pick up a character. No matter how long they train in practice. That’s a player issue not a game issue. The player needs to make a commitment to learn and enjoy the character.

[@koriome]

I've been trying to put my finger on why exactly this game is holding my attention so much and I think that you absolutely put what I was feeling into words here. I was never a huge fan of "getting good" at smash or all stars brawl because the style of fighting never felt right to me. Dodging and maneuvering around my opponents fits my playstyle a whole lot better and that's exactly why i'm hooked. I'm even entering some online tournaments lol

[@androidroo6618]

Tbh it’s also the mechanics are a lot easier than smash

[@nigelcrits]

@@androidroo6618 smash is literally designed for wee babies with anti competition. Idk wtf your smoking thinking smash is harder, maybe if you have to use a trash joycon lol.

[@androidroo6618]

@@nigelcrits LOL it’s way harder, hit boxes are smaller, having some to learn how to play around the edges, waves bouncing. I am having a lot of fun playing multiverse but I smash is just a harder game

[@Im_Echand]

ur a really good youtuber from what ive seen so far keep it up😃

[@Subpar1O1]

The thing that helps this game stand out is the clear passion that went in to it. I haven't seen more expressive animations and characters in a game like this before, and it's very obvious they care about the fans in one way or another. Multiversus has a ton of potential with its roster and I'm very excited to see where it ends up

[@lightningpenguin8937]

It's actually has budget unlike the nick one. Sure, some things seem to be flat out better, but there also some money put into this one.

[@TheTraveler980]

I actually like your metaphorical examples, Bloodborne to Multiversus and Dark Souls 3 to SSBU. It's a fair comparison to comparing the two games. And guess what? I enjoyed both of them, and all of them on their own merits.

[@rayminishi689]

I'm glad someone brought up the lack of blocking and even grabbing. I think the game is hella fun with dodging and attacking. It's actually fitting for the franchises especially the cartoon ones. Blocking always slowed yhe pace down and no matter what game it was. My eyes drooped.

[@traves7y308]

The smooth movement with the dodging instead of blocking makes the gameplay more fun in my opinion

[@bheronz]

Tom and Jerry fighting while everything else was just collateral damage from them is what sold me to the game.

[@Sum_equals_1]

Unlike brawlhalla, it is actually fun

[@grassroots15]

Multiversus, despite it's issues, is distinctly not ass and doesn't feel hollow like Nick did. It cuts it's own niche, is mega accessible, and has crossplay online, so there will always be players somewhere, even if you're on XB1

[@MyTardisGoWhoosh]

After learning how to play Velma.She is actually alot of fun.Completely different playstyle then the others.I get chill Vibes from her.Like if you need to just relax and not worry about brawling..she's your girl

[@BendyPP]

This video is pretty good. Quite high quality.

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Thank you 🥰

[@jwalkrr]

Ive played alot of smash and smash clones in my life and out of all of them this one just has me coming back and playing more and more. I loooove multiversus. Most of the chaeacters are fun to play

[@Ementily]

“Multiversus has no blocking” Steven slowly fades out of existence

[@apotato-]

3:36 Lebron James isnt voicing Lebron hes being voiced by John Bentley

[@NeoNimbus9]

Cause bron sucks at voice acting

[@MyTardisGoWhoosh]

It's because Lebron is a pos commie.

[@punisheranimations6807]

@@NeoNimbus9 bron sucks period

[@JustBaileyMay]

I think Multiversus will last longer, due to it being cross platform day 1, I have played throughout the closed alpha and the beta and love every second of it. When the Alpha ended I missed it, and wanted more and with content dropping like Lebron after early access, and Rick and Morty when season one starts. I love how like you mentioned every character oozes personality, and I enjoy how their is a swear filter that you can toggle. I hope the game lasts, it is such a joy!

[@carsesprobationofficer241]

This aged well

[@chrisrj9871]

It kind of is a smash bros. clone... and it kind of isn't. I mean, Smash Bros. did make the first one, but somebody had to have made the first RPG at some point before everybody else started making one. So platform fighters are slowly becoming their own genre/sub-genre now.

[@huntsforhumans9056]

I love you

[@broswaggaming3978]

You can practice all characters in the lab for Multiversus. If you turn on the bot then you can fight it, allowing you to practice characters before you purchase them

[@KeenanSchofi]

Honestly I've been having a blast with multiversus, I hope that it sticks around for a while cus the amount of characters they could add is insane

[@allhailhalo5021]

I think the biggest reason why all star ended up failing was because they asked for 40+ dollars for a very bone dry game where multi-verse is going to be free to play smart move

[@almightyarsenal3366]

brdngrg: The absence of blocking justifies its existence Rivals of Aether: am I a joke to you?

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Oof

[@jayceyoung1866]

Multiversus needs battle passes with more than 3 skins if that’s going to be the only thing you can work towards after the (really quick) grind to level 15 for your favorite character.

[@elirosen18]

As someone with thousands of hours in smash I can say that multiverses is a really fun twist to the genre. I like the idea of perks and I love how you can make a whole strategy with your teammate just based around the perks you chose. I definitely think it’s an easier game to wrap your head around then smash but that’s ok because there is still huge skill gaps between good and bad players. I’m looking forward to seeing where multiverses goes and if it manages to stay alive

[@oceanman_8370]

I think part of why Multiversus will last longer is because it has a more iconic cast of characters. Sure, millions of people have seen Avatar, The Loud House and Spongebob. But it is almost impossible to find someone who doesn't know Bugs Bunny, Superman or Tom and Jerry

[@salfoyer2411]

Or Lebrun James

[@codecody4442]

Making Multiverses FTP and having a good reason to come back daily was an incredibly smart choice. WB knows what they are doing, while Nickelodeon hired an AMAZING team for ASB then gave them 0 support.

[@vaporwave2345]

UP NEXT: HOW MULTIVERSUS DIED 💀💀💀

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Oh it’s COMING

[@darioschiavon423]

I personally think that another strength of multiversus is the fact that the creators have completely embraced the memes. Come on guys in order to create Shaggy's moveset they have revived one of the best meme of internet. I literally cannot stop laughing during my first playthrough.

[@sinfinite7516]

Side note about Nick All Star Brawl I prefer shortening it to “Nick Brawl” instead of “All Star Brawl” just cause its shorter and it also includes “Nick” in it clearing up that its a Nickelodeon game.

[@EpicBongZilla]

No game has been a genuine or successful "Smash Clone". There have been plenty of platform fighters. But none of them were truly clones. They deviate from the smash formula too much typically. This can result is great success, or instant failure. Seen a couple Platform fighters get traction. But most the time they just live in the massive shadow casted by smash. Personally Multiversus seems more like Rivals of Aether. Which was designed to be more like Melee. But still is not a clone at all. Multiversus appears to be solid so far though. Seems like it can actually compete with smash bros because they put together a decent formula for gameplay.

[@leedo5608]

The only thing I disagree with you on is comparing Multiversus to Rivals/Melee. I feel like Multiversus is doing the Brawlhalla thing of trying to be very different from the competition. They added perks, character roles, and focused on 2v2s just to name a few differentiators. I feel like out of the recent games, NASB is the one that's heavily inspired by Melee because of the raw and fast gameplay. I get why people feel like the game is clunky, but once you learn the movement, it's far from it. I love both games and I hope NASB gets another chance once crossplay is added and I hope MVS does well too.

[@UncleKoolaids]

Multiversus plays nothing like melee imo. Nasb was forsure closer in that regard but even still that's fine.

[@EpicBongZilla]

@@UncleKoolaids I never said it was like Melee, or if thats how it read. I meant the game reminds me of Rivals but rivals is actually based off of Melee. Rivals was created by a melee Evo player that didn't like the pace of brawl. So he created his own platform fighter that was faster then brawl like Melee but it also changed other mechanic he wasn't a fan of in smash.. But I personally don't like brawlhala myself so I'd never compare anything to it, always preferred playing Smash ultimate to brawlhala and still do.

[@EpicBongZilla]

I have to say though based off of what I've gotten to play. The game is awesome. Plays great, has smooth online for the most part, very interesting characters. I'm really enjoying it. Only Platform fighter ive ever played that would say is on par with smash. It's not the same, definitely more of a rivals style gameplay. But it's formula works great. Maining Wonder Woman for FFA and Arya For teams so far.

[@jaimeruiz7837]

Of course the other games can’t do what Smash does. Smash has been around since the 90s. Is it nintendos fault no one wanted to compete with them earlier? Smash has had years to perfect its craft, that game is fucking smooth. It feels good, got weight behind strikes. Multiverse is decent but for me, I don’t feel the heft. Also I don’t wanna complain about the roster size or whatever, because Smash started off with a small cast but you got to play all of them and then unlock secret characters. I fucking hate grinding to unlock characters. Give the starting roster for free and then grind for future releases.

[@jazzy_burrito]

I wish I understood the love for this game's flow. I agree with everything you said about the game, but when I play it, something about how the movement and attacks don't work for me. it's like the extreme opposite of clunky, it feels too weightless and floaty, like how the hit stun works, being sort of short and hard for me to register. In SSBU, the hits really felt impactful and the character's movement really had weight to it. In Brawlhalla, the game focused more on fluidity and freedom of movement in a responsive way, as this game does. Thing is, Brawlhalla didn't (eventually) have the freedom at the cost of weight, and by having more friction, stronger gravity, and dashes( a replacement for grounded side dodges that didn't give invincibility but also didn't bring you to a halt when the dash is finished, even putting you into a sprint instead), and air movement that for feels snappier, quicker and more responsive than Multiversus. At least for me. I appreciate everything that Multiversus does well, but at the end of the day, I can't enjoy the game as much as it deserves me to, because of issues that seem more personal to me. If anyone else here somehow read all of this and has a similar feeling about this, please tell me if you'd like!

[@TEExJAY24]

keep playing and learn to direct your self when dodging to counter you will get used it I had the same feeling and now I love this game. also fast falling is a huge part in adding wight to yourself.

[@jazzy_burrito]

@@TEExJAY24 Thanks man, I just kinda feeling the fact the side dodges complete cancel out your momentum makes them feel awkward for me to use, I think you're right though, I found smash wierd when I started playing it(though in a less nonsensical way) but loved it eventually, I just need to give this game so more time. Thanks for the encouragement!

[@kingjuicy3023]

@@jazzy_burrito I agree. The game is too floaty compared to brawlhalla and smash however I just chalk it up to the game still being in beta

[@kingjuicy3023]

I’m sure the physics will improve

[@markmessi9020]

I want multiversus to do great because I love DC comics and this is gonna bring so many eyes to the DC Universe. Anyways back to training with Superman 👊

[@imnotzachh]

i’ve never been a huge fan of fighting games. bought ssbu because all my friends had it and were not doing anything else. it was pretty enjoyable with such a huge roster but still felt incomplete if that’s the right word. it felt like there was something that just wasn’t there. after playing multiversus i learned that it’s the speed. the intense speed of the game compared to ssbu is just crazy. i hated the shield mechanic in ssbu because almost the entire game revolves around it. in multi though, there isn’t really a mechanic that the game revolves around. you could argue that dodging is the core mechanic but i think that they did a very good job balancing dodging and combos, for the most part, on a lot of characters. i’m very excited to see where this game ends up in the future as i’ve already spent $40 on it. if there’s one thing i’m literally begging for in this game it’s more Cartoon Network characters. i don’t have the roster in front of me so off the top of my head, i can only think of 2 (Taz and Bugs, idk if any other characters are). there may be more than i know of but there’s so much potential with cartoon network. so yeah, if this game dies anytime soon i would be very disappointed as there’s so much potential with characters (just look up how many companies warner brothers own, it’s crazy). if you read this entire message, thank you :)

[@LJAndrews1986]

It's just getting started and it's going to be huge. As long as they don't pay wall any characters the future is set in gold for this game

[@rayandthejets]

I heard Brawl Stars a lot when you were presumably talking about NASB, was that just me? Anyway, I made this comment to say none of these games are ‘smash clones’. Platform fighters are a genre, yes lots of them are similar, but ARE NOT CLONES. That is the point of genres, to group a certain type of game. Just because SSB was the first one (I don’t even know if that’s true) doesn’t mean that all new platform fighters are copying it. This is why I get annoyed at people who call any MetroidVania (normally Ori) a Hollow Knight clone. Ori even came out BEFORE HK and people call it a clone. They are all their own games with unique personalities and charm. Smash created the genre yes, but not all platform fighters are a smash clone.

[@markwick2783]

Amazing video, I have faith that MVS will last for the long haul, as long as they add consistent content every month

[@xperience8245]

One reason the devs pointed out that made me love this game all the more. They INTENTIONALLY made it harder for Batman to take out his opponents as a nod to his "no kill" rule. I also really like the Velma and Tom and Jerry things you pointed out but when I heard about that it really stood out. But what does all star brawl have? Nothing.

[@Anonymous-ks1pn]

wait your telling me that batman can do a lot of damage but its hard for him to actually kill? hes the exact opposite of gannondorf

[@xperience8245]

@@Anonymous-ks1pn yeah I know

[@Anonymous-ks1pn]

@@xperience8245 smash ultimate ganon vs multiversus batman who would win?

[@xperience8245]

@@Anonymous-ks1pn they're different but probably Batman

[@Anonymous-ks1pn]

@@xperience8245 idk Gannons entire character is supposed to take damage until he can kill the other i feel like he has the advantage

[@mahino420]

i am almost certain multiversus will live though not stay this popular, it is a really fun game.

[@kruegerpoolthe13th]

Multiversus gives more Marvel vs Capcom vibes than Smash vibes Everything is so fast and refined and the characters are insanely fun

[@darealsteve9391]

Fun fact: you can go to “lab” and try out every character before you buy it, so it’s a good way to see if you like the characters or not.

[@elliot6602]

Or playing local with friends. Everyone's unlocked.

[@cheesymcnuggets]

The only other fighting games ive genuinely enjoyed was Smash… except… im having more fun on Multiversus than i ever did Smash. I prefer the fast paced adaptive gameplay, smash is just combos and full of weak and super broken characters. Multiversus, i dont feel any character is broken (including Finn for y’all who just suck at the game), i can beat any character with any character and i dont have to practice stupid combos that dont even work because it doesnt register the buttons ive pressed properly. Also what you said about the voices and personalities is 100% true, even Smash was a struggle for me because im not a massive nintendo fan but Multiversus, im a fan of most of the characters outside of the game. The progression is also a magnet for me, i love games with meaningful leveling or uncapped meaningless levels both for their own reasons (this is a combination) And cant forget my love for the different gamemodes, 2s is my favourite and the characters synergize well but in smash it is not the same and people only ever want to do duels. The movement itself feels easier in MV than smash, smash is too smooth if that makes any sense, i would always walk off the map or mess up my combos because it was too smooth, which reminds me, i hated how hard it was to recover on smash and how each character had a differently distanced recovery. Dodging > Blocking. Also you can test characters you dont own in lab so that Velma thing is on you homie. As someone who doesnt mind dropping a couple bucks on a battle pass every now and then (as long as it doesnt take 100 hours) i am very much looking forward to leveling up the future passes and unlocking cool cosmetics, it’s just more reason to play. Im a consumer, I LOVE CAPITALISM

[@danny12d1]

lmao looks like someone sucks at smash and has to play the great value version of it, multiversus is for 5 year olds who have too small of a brain to play real fighting games.

[@timothyjn100]

that “I am a consumer, I LOVE CAPITALISM” at the end sent me 😂 Shouted with conviction

[@janneshoeneck9460]

honestly great comment

[@robingomez9319]

You just haven't played Smash dude. Your points are subjective but valid, however you're judging a game you obviously played for only a couple of hours. Also the "for y'all who suck at the game" being in the same comment where you confess falling from the stage in Smash is kinda hilarious

[@janneshoeneck9460]

@@robingomez9319 why would he write a objective review?

[@kenshothelyrical]

As a Brawlhalla player, I must say I really liked how the 3s are different from the 2s in Brawlhalla. The fact that the stock system is more or less just the number of knockouts instead of number of lives is cool. Especially since my partner comes back so I don't have to worry about the 1v2 at the end. (Some like that, but that's not my thing personally) I also like the fact that I don't have to wait for the character to be brought up (Brawlhalla) or lowered from the sky (Smash), I'm just put back on the stage ready to go real quick. I think the game will be here for awhile, you can see the thought and work out in to make it a really great game

[@AquariusAquaCare]

Such a solid video. You communicated exactly what I was trying to communicate to my friends who love smash like I do.

[@FriendQwerty]

I’ve always been a huge fan of anything Looney Tunes, particularly Bugs & Daffy. Multiversus has made me so damn happy lately, I feel like a kid again every time I see that wabbit on screen. Bugs and Taz are the sole reason why I’ve tried out Multiversus and the gameplay has kept me engaged. I gave Smash a try but I never had the same feeling as I did when playing Multiversus. My theory is that because I did not grow up with video games, I didn’t have any attachment to the characters. I hardly had any knowledge on Nintendo stuff, but I have so many huge memories tied to Looney Tunes. It’s probably dumb, but stuff like characters is really important to me. Hearing the banter between characters in Multiversus still fills me up with some giddy feeling. Holding onto the hope of seeing some Daffy in the future. Really resonated with this video and just the way you present information. You have a very nice speaking manner.

[@coke8077]

I think Multiverus will stay alive a lot longer than All Star Brawl because of the amount of characters that they could add. If WB plays their cards right and pushes out regular updates this could the next mainstream free to play game.

[@eplatamx2017]

I think they could be successful with the brawlhalla formula

[@moonwarrior3342]

I believe Multiversus is gonna last for quite a while. Especially when it's free to play along side of it having crossplay. Also what WB game is gonna let me throw fists as either anyone from Looney Tunes or to Hanna Barbera characters? Because you can tell that WB was meaning business when they said that a lot of the attention to detail is there to voice acting to representation. Espeically when you can tell Nick messed up huge when they didn't gave the Slap City Devs that are working on it still a budget of a shoestring fries. Not to mention of Hungry Box stirring a hornets nest when it came to calling Nick Allstars "the Smash Killer" when he should very know well on how cultist Nintendo fans get when it comes to taking jokes more of threats.

[@KindofBradAtThis]

Give me chungus or give me death!

[@rpg9722]

just a tip if you go to the lab you can try out any character even ones you haven't unlocked so you can get a feel for a character before you buy them

[@m.o.s.4742]

Big Chungus is too…big to be a Bugs skin, the animations will be weird. it it’s more probable that big Chungus will be added as a taunt or maybe as a character

[@gamenwatch6269]

Maybe as a taunt

[@astrometries1944]

Multiversus, at least in my opinion, tried to replicate Smash Melee movement, which is the best thing it could've done. It even has wavedashing, characters like Arya can cancel movements to slide across the stage and cause insane mixups. It is so fluid, for lack of better word. A lot of competitive Nintendo fighting games can be traced back to melee, and Multiversus feels like it mastered that formula and knew what its audience was looking for, and by far a bigger character lineup that include really small intricacies that adds so much personality.

[@drowsyspook3455]

Just because a game has gppd movemt doesn't mean it's inspired by melee but you're a smash fan so that might be too hard to understand 💀

[@astrometries1944]

@@drowsyspook3455 I only mean that it has a lot of its intricacies that were first popularized by Melee and were originally in Tekken. Not really a Smash fan and don't swear allegiance for or against some video games because I'm normal and not pathetic. Just enjoy some games and can acknowledge what they do.

[@yourlocalghastyt285]

fun fact: in multiversus's settings, there's a mature mode so you can listen to harley and the others cuss out their opponent

[@mayauppstad9883]

Multiversus was miles more polished in the first alpha than nick was on full release or even several months after

[@mehgamer467]

well no shit. Nick has 7 people who are developing the game and not being funded, while this game has a HUGE budget and has a way bigger dev team. I would HOPE its more polished lol.

[@mayauppstad9883]

@@mehgamer467 they didn't have to release it in that state though. i've played several better games made by fewer people on a lower budget because they decided to have and extended alpha/beta/early access period. it felt really bad paying that much money for a game that was that unfinished

[@mehgamer467]

@@mayauppstad9883 thats not really the developers fault tho. Nick pushed them to rush. And give me examples of what you stated. Fighting games I mean. Again the fact you made the comment shows you were ignorant about the situation to begin with lol. Its obvious it SHOULD have been better, so the comment was rather idiotic. Please research in the future before making future comments thanks.

[@mehgamer467]

@@mayauppstad9883 also if you didn't even know about the budget or staff to begin with, how would you even know if the games you played had a lower budget lol. What.

[@mayauppstad9883]

@@mehgamer467 i was fully aware of the staff count. dont put words in my mouth

[@m.o.s.4742]

In my opinion, the only problem with Multiversus is that it won't come out for Switch

[@izukumidoriya7425]

Actually it will, it just won’t come out on release, it’ll take awhile. But the switch isn’t off the table yet

[@Eric2XD]

@@izukumidoriya7425 would it tho? It's the same gene as smash bros and this is Nintendo? I don't know much about the switch so I maybe wrong.

[@majesticmo5048]

@@Eric2XD brawlhalla and rivals of aether are on switch

[@Just_Jonah]

All Star Brawl made it so that there's no desire to test out new characters since they all play the same, instead actually having to search for your main.

[@nollie.]

i appreciate you using nighthawks as your background picture, i‘ll never forget that painting cause i had to write a whole fictional story around it for german class in like 9th grade. good memories.

[@ergi8783]

You're right, multiverse is not a smash clone, it's a Brawhalla clone 💀

[@GhostOfSparta305]

Hey, I liked PSASBR. Felt less like a Smash clone than Nick Brawl or Multiversus.

[@pikminmaster2165]

Thank You! I'm so glad I'm not the only one who hurt by that!

[@Scrabble007]

Lots more people are appreciating PSASBR now, hoping maybe one day they can do a second one

[@captainj3mo967]

I love multiversus but if people are gonna defend it then at least give PSASBR the same treatment.

[@davidrobles3960]

You said you didn't like Velma that much after you bought her, but since the release of the early access you were able to practice as a character in The Lab before even having to purchase them 🤷

[@gregorydunks]

One thing I love is that online is actually the main focus of this game whereas Nick it felt like they were just adding it in to appeal to the fans. Like nick had rollback but the rank system and the matchmaking screen just look awful. Multi also has leveling which is just a great way to make you feel more attached to a game and other people can view your profile which adds more competitiveness to this leveling feature which will also make the game last longer. Another thing is the fact that characters don’t have a level cap and when you first join a game everyone in the lobby can see your level which adds another leveling mechanic that players will wanna level up so they can be the highest in the lobby.

[@consumerofchalk4254]

I love the team aspect of the game that continuously pushes me to play teams and my personal favorite thing is the large reach in characters that they can access and add, all of which I would grind hours to unlock to see how well they work and who they work better with

[@DiegoHernandez-vv3iv]

I love how they have voice lines agaisnt each other "Jesse we need to cook kryptonite" is my favorite line.

[@riemay6428]

It’s been a while since a game in this concept kept me for more than an hour in one session and actually made me want to just keep playing Multiversus is super fun, nice to look at and the character interactions are just cherry at the top. More characters are yet to come, perhaps over time we will get to see guest characters just like in Smash if the success will be great We have people playing it intensively right now during the closed beta and finding the match is literally a matter up to 5 seconds So here is to, to the Multiversus future Smash needed a good competitor

[@KangarAsh]

I personally have never been a big fan of games that use the smash formula, I tried brawlhala and hated it beyond belief because I use too used go smash and I didn't like the weapon system etc, just picked up multiversus today and I'm already in love with it. It has so much going for it that automatically sets it apart from smash and the character interactions to reindog (only character I played) was amazing and I loved hearing shaggy be scared of reindog after I killed him. To sum it up, game is a blast to play and makes me want to play it more then I did with smash and by God reindog is the best character in the game because he's adorable.

[@normaltype7282]

reindog is the worst chartactar LOL

[@Saroniss]

@@normaltype7282 me when I lie

[@MONSTANIMATION]

Hey you do know that you can try every character in the Lab before you need to buy them right?

[@kilemiller6519]

I love how much shit batman talks to shaggy. " id tell you to stick with solving mysteries but your bad at that too"

[@le_holyman7273]

This game won’t die, I’m especially convinced after seeing the leaked roster, with characters like devil may cry’s dante, jojo’s bizarre adventure’s DIO, and even Johnny bravo, it’s not going anywhere but up

[@voidit588]

we need big chungus

[@KindofBradAtThis]

C H U N G U S

[@HopefulBlue]

no

[@chattaboxxx2332]

The fact that you have to make a video titled: "why multiverse is not a smash clone" kind of tells you that it's definitely just a smash clone.

[@filipedeleaobeck3009]

"Clone" may be a strong word, but it is, definitely, the same genre, formula, and such. Which doesn't mean it is bad for that. As stated in this very video, the game is really well made and has a lot of good points, contrasting with All Star Brawl, that...doesn't.

[@komlat253]

genre ,right! it's perfectly fine to add games in a similar group

[@bryanortega8148]

I love it See we all know that brawlhalla is a copy/inspiration of smash with its own fighting formula and now multiversus combines/inspired those too games to create something new.

[@KozmicHand]

This is your video man congrats. It’s the video that got you in the door. Hope you love it! Subscribed

[@HopefulBlue]

I want Sonic in MultiVersus so he can get a better moveset.

[@LucarioShirona]

Yeah... You might wanna hope that SEGA doesn't hold back on Multiversus like what they did with Smash.

[@HopefulBlue]

@@LucarioShirona Are you aware that Sakurai and his dev team makes the movesets???

[@LucarioShirona]

@@HopefulBlue yes. But some of the choices has still need to be approved by the characters’ respective IPs. Sakurai HAS a addressed this. With how Sonic content lacking overall in Smash, and it just so happens to be when SEGA are making some noticeable missteps with the games, it’s obvious they did almost give zero squat for Smash just as they did with Brawl. Wished Yukon Nakia stayed for a little longer since he actually gave a damn for Sonic’s inclusion.

[@HopefulBlue]

@@LucarioShirona Thank you for informing