Why Muslim Dawah Drama is Killing Us | Sh. Mohammad Elshinawy (Full Podcast)

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Gossip, slander, backbiting, bickering and a whole lot of infighting. Navigating the scene of Muslim Social Media can be very confronting for many young Muslims trying to make sense of their place in the world and their identity. We sat down with Shaykh Mohammad Elshinawy to discuss the nature of division and unity in the online world.
Shaykh Elshinawy is an Imam and Religious Director at Jesus the Son of Mary Mosque in Pennsylvania, United States of America and also a researcher at Yaqeen Institute. He has studied at the College of Hadith at the Islamic University of Madinah and is also a graduate and instructor of Islamic Studies at Mishkah University.
00:00 | Introduction
02:21 | Background of Shaykh's name
03:35 | What is the cause of online division?
04:18 | The age of rage
07:36 | Infighting is part of our history
09:43 | Being conscious of social media's reality
12:02 | When should we be calling out evil actions?
15:07 | Ibn Taymiyah and the drunkards
16:21 | Unfair and uninformed judgement of people's actions
18:16 | Reckless sharing of news
19:02 | Hadith relevant to public shaming
21:00 | Nuance of the Quran regarding reconciliation
22:22 | What about public punishment of wrongdoing?
23:23 | The man that committed Zina
25:16 | Dealing with mistakes made out of ignorance
25:17 | Statement of Imam Ahmed on calling people out
26:06 | Allowing people to be redeemed
26:54 | Covering others so that Allah covers you
28:08 | More conditions on calling others out
29:06 | The statement of Aisha regarding gradual revelation
30:44 | What is commanding of good
31:13 | The incident of the Prophet and the wailing woman
33:00 | The incident of the Prophet and the enraged man
34:14 | Emotional Intelligence of the Prophet in Dawah
34:57 | The Prophet ripping a Gold ring off a companion
37:28 | Correcting mistakes out of ignorance
38:36 | The dangers of calling out the Scholars
41:37 | Going easy on those in the spotlight
43:19 | Where is the sincerity
48:20 | Abu Darda and the chastisers
50:13 | A modern example of insincerity amongst brothers
52:07 | How can we begin to mend divided hearts
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@banandababa
@banandababa 10 ай бұрын
It’s about TIME someone made a video about this!! The Dawah scene is so incredibly toxic the past few years!!
@trajictempr8574
@trajictempr8574 10 ай бұрын
Fr
@barryhay8935
@barryhay8935 10 ай бұрын
It’s always the “modern” salafis, the Muslim skeptics, the sajid liphams, the shamsis, the Imran ibn Mansur, the grandmaster abu mussab, phew he is like absolute Megamind behind division dawah. That’s what they doing. Divisive dawah. Saved sect syndrome. Oblivious to the harm they cause. Prime example. Look at how they address Sheikh Yasir Qadhi.
@thepizzashaverisen5631
@thepizzashaverisen5631 10 ай бұрын
Not to generalize astaghfirullah but I barely see any Muslims following Quran 16:125 in the Dawah scene. People without a discerning mind would take these certain Muslims as role models even though their adab is not in line with Muhammad in this regard. May Allah guide them.
@imraneamoura1027
@imraneamoura1027 10 ай бұрын
​@barryhay8935 These are mudkhalis that have turned everything upside down and Shamsi is one of them. Qadhi made mistakes but Daawa's men must correct themselves in secret.
@bestrafung2754
@bestrafung2754 10 ай бұрын
@@barryhay8935 I was just thinking of Yasir Qadhi! Look, I disagree with him on the whole shirk and graves thing, but so many people just insult him, make things up, gossip, or thing they're "exposing" him. They don't realise that what they're doing is haram in itself. It's okay to disagree, but there's no need to insult people or be mean to them. People who say incorrect things like Yasir Qadhi should be kindly spoken to and advised, otherwise they'll just be pushed away further, although Yasir is very knowledgeable to be fair. Another thing they made up is implying he's pro-LGBTQ+ when he's not lol.
@ahijabirose
@ahijabirose 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. I got caught up watching these kinds of Muslim drama videos a while ago and it affected my perception of Islam as a revert, SubhanAllah. OnePath always provides such balanced and informative content. JazakAllah khair!
@YasMohamed7
@YasMohamed7 10 ай бұрын
Asalamuwalaikum sis. Me too. Astaghfirullahil alzeem. It’s a whole movement subhanAllah. I’m glad we’re waking up to it Alhamdullilah. Inpray الله سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَى guides us all to the True Islam, a way of practicing our faith thatالله سُبْحَانَهُ وَتَعَالَى is pleased with. آمين يا رب العالمين السَّلَامُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ ٱللَّهِ وَبَرَكاتُهُ
@thepureheart195
@thepureheart195 10 ай бұрын
Islamic knowledge and subjects is vast and deep. Very balanced and sensible talk in a calm way which scholars of old or academic people behave they talk and also allow others to listen and then respond they dont need to prove anything. Learnt a lot. Every Hadith has a story or context behind it which can be misunderstood especially when just reading and not understanding things with scholarly insight and knowledge. Sh ME was able to explain in simple way and even certain Hadith I didn't know the reason why the Prophet gave that advice or admonition very interesting and refreshing. I think dawah today in the modern world has changed with using social media and visuals, not a bad thing (as visuals can enhance and especially for busy people who don't have time, and different people understand things in different way and to reach the masses who lets be honest we all use social media and that motivating video on KZbin. The old days giving dawn was a lot harder as you had one a few leaflets but you had to use your own communications skills and knowledge to convey the message of Islam and to be able answer questions etc, that needed real skills face to face talk. I think todays dawah has changed but dont understand the people who give dawah then challenging each other online for everyone to see (seems pointless and chaotic).. I guess this entertainment! I used to be able to listen to lecture/talk for 1hour, then 45mins, then 30mins, then 15mins, then 10mins, and now 5mins depending on topic. I think we've lost the ability to be still and learn/study in quietness to be able to think/reflect without being distracted every 5/10mins with modern distractions and technology, but happy to listen to this 1hour talk. True Scholars of Hadith, Quran, and Hifs reciter's have studied for years and years requiring study and in depth study, it's not something you can learn in a week or month or a 10min KZbin video.
@TS-zd2ud
@TS-zd2ud 10 ай бұрын
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
@TS-zd2ud
@TS-zd2ud 10 ай бұрын
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)
@cledwards
@cledwards 10 ай бұрын
Stay away from whatever lowers your eman, trust me.
@Lionheart198
@Lionheart198 10 ай бұрын
Dawah drama made me stop watching certain online channels and it has benefitted me highly.
@bobjohn3108
@bobjohn3108 9 ай бұрын
Ali dawah, mo hijab shams?
@user-inaya__FreePaIest1ne
@user-inaya__FreePaIest1ne 20 күн бұрын
Same . I stop watching Ali Dawah Mohammad Hijab etc. . Don't missunderstand me I respect those brothers with all my heart and acknowledge thatthey're very knowledgeable. But the constant aggressiveness isn't something me as a Muslim benefit from. I realized I was not learning anything . It felt like I was watching those pop culture tea channels which I'm not a fan of .
@ismailaden7
@ismailaden7 9 ай бұрын
I unfollowed all these drama dawah wanna be sheikhs it’s time to protect our inner peace and imaan.thanks for this amazing podcast.
@MuminBro23
@MuminBro23 10 ай бұрын
FINALLY a large creator/platform is calling this out. The drama in the "Dawah" scene is so embarrassing.
@lacepub
@lacepub 9 ай бұрын
​@@Wisteria_You lightly said, fitna makers While every single one of them has put effort and spreading Islam I know, the fact that they had beef between one another, that doesn't mean you can lightly say "fitna makers" My question is, what have you done for the ummah and islam? Is there any achievement for the ummah? Do you go to Sweden to protest and confront the Qur'an burner? Nah bruv, you don't even bother So, rethink before you act
@ballinspalding11
@ballinspalding11 10 ай бұрын
As soon as I stopped following all such people, I became much more practicing and a less hateful/doubtful individual.
@Yahya-Jahja
@Yahya-Jahja 10 ай бұрын
I'm following in your footsteps brother. I blocked and unfollowed a bunch of channels and feel so much better already. I'm just so much calmer, I read myself and stay away from the drama. Best wishes brother.
@zaristophanes2
@zaristophanes2 10 ай бұрын
Who are these people
@ballinspalding11
@ballinspalding11 9 ай бұрын
​@@Yahya-JahjaSame to you my brother. Consider me your very proud Muslim brother for taking this step. May Allah (SWT) reward you.
@ballinspalding11
@ballinspalding11 9 ай бұрын
​​@@zaristophanes2 can personally only think of 3 but I know there are a lot more that can be found especially if you follow those three. Daniel Haqiqatjou, Muhammad Hijab and Ali Dawah.
@hadiibrahim6847
@hadiibrahim6847 9 ай бұрын
​@@ballinspalding11Cool Move 👍🏽💯. But moving forward, simply just take the good knowledge from similar people and discard the bad from them 🤗💯
@lindawilkins9296
@lindawilkins9296 10 ай бұрын
This lecture/podcast needs to be translated into all languages.
@zahra.6
@zahra.6 Ай бұрын
SubhanAllah, this reminded me to focus on the people close to me more than the community online 🌷 jzk Allah khair
@orsuhk1234
@orsuhk1234 Ай бұрын
Subhanaalah. i enjoyed the discussion based on truth. i pray to Allah s.w.t. to guide Musliam to stay united, not dwell on differences and protect us form negative forces to affect us negatively. Ameen.
@Md_sadiq_Md
@Md_sadiq_Md 10 ай бұрын
May Allah bless our brothers and sisters of ummah with Jannah ❤ Aameen summa Aameen ❤
@infonet184
@infonet184 10 ай бұрын
We must look up to the people who are the closest in mentioning and following the prophet, his companions and the early righteous scholars
@infonet184
@infonet184 10 ай бұрын
And we should avoid people who jump only and speak out islam with little knowledge and speak blindly with emotions that don't benefit
@MichiganTroopers123
@MichiganTroopers123 10 ай бұрын
Ahsant 👍 too many laymen commenting as if we ourselves are scholars
@isafcb312
@isafcb312 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely try your best to follow the early generations and their understanding and you won’t go far wrong In sha Allah
@isafcb312
@isafcb312 10 ай бұрын
@@infonet184Haqq
@mk-ld8ih
@mk-ld8ih 10 ай бұрын
Agreed. this also means callinh out 'liberal' muslim teachers who misguide the laymen. Some may regard that as dawah drama but it's necessary sadly.
@specialk5850
@specialk5850 10 ай бұрын
I recently discussed this topic with my wife. It can be observed that many people use Islam to earn money and gain attention. What bothers me even more than their dishonest intentions is the lack of knowledge and the casualness with which it is spread in the world. Just this weekend, I ended many subscriptions because I can no longer support or want to support that. However, I must also admit that it is nice to see so many brothers and sisters engaging in this, as it also signifies a great interest in Islam. May Allah fulfill His plan with His wisdom, even if we cannot comprehend it. Amen.
@cyberalb2908
@cyberalb2908 10 ай бұрын
I learned about Islam&became muslim after watching the dawah brothers videos on social medias debating Christians atheist agnostic etc. Than as an open minded individual i start to read Quran compared them with the bible &find out the Quran is the truth. Imagine if those videos wouldn't pop up in my feeds I would be ignorant about GOD & Islam. How many thousands people like me have converted to Islam after watching this dawah videos?? You can say they making money using Islam but if they are using internet to reach out ignorant Muslims &non Muslims help the poor from what they profiting than im okay.
@Hamza-iq6gw
@Hamza-iq6gw 10 ай бұрын
It has always been about money. You are their brother or sister as long as you bring your wallet to their masjid. Thanks for having the courage to notice this scam.
@ElinoraMilanesi
@ElinoraMilanesi 10 ай бұрын
I unfollowed everyone (ALL the big names) and started following a few who teach classes and are sincere.
@iqrarasul
@iqrarasul 10 ай бұрын
​@SisterFleur do you mind sharing s few names if possible? x
@Hamza-iq6gw
@Hamza-iq6gw 10 ай бұрын
@@iqrarasul The Matters which every Muslim must know from Islam by necessity by Abu baraa Pdf is available on the internet. Read instead of watch
@soumi2670
@soumi2670 10 ай бұрын
I love this brother elshanawy being listening to his lecture for a long time I love his voice he always put smile on my face you don't know me I love you for the sake of allah may Allah bless you and reward you effort and bless you family
@adaemritte8844
@adaemritte8844 10 ай бұрын
De best daee is mohammad ali from de muslim lantern he is honest,decent,truthful n very knowledgeble i invite u all listen to him n ul know Islam truly.
@assylla7064
@assylla7064 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this. The dawah drama really had a bad effect on my Iman recently
@fatimahgoni
@fatimahgoni 10 ай бұрын
Subhanallah. This is a video we all needed. Jazakumullahu khairan
@serenevalor
@serenevalor 9 ай бұрын
Yes!! Thank you so much for making this! From the comments section, seems like most ppl know this is needed.
@mhamed1432
@mhamed1432 9 ай бұрын
Very eloquent and touching conversation. Jazak Allah khir, May Allah rewards you immensely.
@faheemGood.
@faheemGood. 10 ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah!❤
@unapologeticmuslim1575
@unapologeticmuslim1575 10 ай бұрын
This is what we needed. Jazak Allah khair
@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro
@OmarAbdulMalikDHEdMPASPACPAPro 10 ай бұрын
Assalamualaikum dear brothers. Jazakh'AllahKhair for sharing this with us! May Allah SubanahWaTa'Allah guide us and protect us from the whispers of Shaytan.
@Irfan-ox7on
@Irfan-ox7on 9 ай бұрын
Jazakallah Khair this was such an important podcast, and I learned a lot from it. May Allah reward you all for your efforts and May Allah protect us from division.
@user-il5iv6hj1b
@user-il5iv6hj1b 10 ай бұрын
Very important conversation - thank you for talking on this! What worries me is how much attention these toxic dawah figures and the ensuing drama get, from both within and outside our community. They’re some of the first videos that pop up any time you search something about Islam, and it’s always filled with some of the worst adab I’ve seen. I even heard some non-Muslim radio hosts the other day commenting on videos they’d seen of these dawah boys screaming at people in parks and city squares. It’s concerning in that aspect because not only is this seen as distasteful and inappropriate to many in our community, but it’s also circulating to non-Muslims. If that’s their first or only exposure to the religion, then that’s shameful on our part if drama like this ends up drives people away. As a convert it’s always on my mind.
@moholah3745
@moholah3745 9 ай бұрын
They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper. Quran 4:89
@fedesetrtatio1
@fedesetrtatio1 9 ай бұрын
I am sorry my friend. The internet has exposed islam for what it is, a religion that cannot stand up to intellectual scrutiny. So what you you expect apart from temper tantrums, claims of islamophobia, cries of persecution when there are no answers left. Muslims have become like pampered children.
@jewelweed6880
@jewelweed6880 9 ай бұрын
Yes! I've addressed a bit of this in comment sections before, but I am not nearly as good with words. Thank you for putting my thoughts into words that are clearer than mine - and taking it further.
@jarhead1685
@jarhead1685 10 ай бұрын
despite the tough and challenging times we are in...we should be thankful to Allah subhan wa ta'ala for brothers like Sheikh Shinawy....i find it very soothing and calming whenever i listen to him, not to mention the sea of knowledge he has (Allah humma barik), i really liked the topic, its confronting the elephant in the room
@fedesetrtatio1
@fedesetrtatio1 9 ай бұрын
I am sorry my friend. The internet has exposed islam for what it is, a religion that cannot stand up to intellectual scrutiny. So what you you expect apart from temper tantrums, claims of islamophobia, cries of persecution when there are no answers left. Muslims have become like pampered children.
@ilyaas8322
@ilyaas8322 10 ай бұрын
Salaams - Shukran for this , May Allah Reward your good intent , I learn more watching reverts and their channels
@ViolettaVie
@ViolettaVie 10 ай бұрын
This video is so beautiful. Masha Allah. May Allah bless you both.
@muslimresponse103
@muslimresponse103 10 ай бұрын
Allah ﷻ says in the Glorious Quran (2.154): *And do not say about those who are killed in the way of Allāh; "They are dead". Rather, they are alive, but you perceive [it] not.*
@chomo54andbabyaisha97
@chomo54andbabyaisha97 10 ай бұрын
...and get lots of bacha bazi boys in pimp asl Lahs pdf file ring jannah *surah 52:24*
@daasguy99
@daasguy99 10 ай бұрын
There has to be a department or regulatory authority which manages or these dawah societies need to be registered. Therefore if any fake or rogue dawah starts erupting they need to be told off or shut down by the regulatory authority. These checks and balances are a must.
@salmaz315
@salmaz315 9 ай бұрын
A million likes for this podcast. جزاكم الله خيراً
@Han_80
@Han_80 5 ай бұрын
Mashaa-Allah. Beautiful advice. ❤ I love Shaykh ElShinawy. May Allah bless and keep him. Ameen.
@tahsinahsan515
@tahsinahsan515 9 ай бұрын
Much needed podcast! Jazak Allahu khairan.
@khanofcaledonia6413
@khanofcaledonia6413 10 ай бұрын
Great discussion on great subject. Jazakallah khair
@BeeButter
@BeeButter 10 ай бұрын
I haven't watched yet, but the title attracted me as I was waiting for a knowledgeable Muslim talking about Dawah Muslims' online presence 👏
@xaviertr6240
@xaviertr6240 10 ай бұрын
We got too many brothers and sisters that want to be celebrities
@DrTariqRamadan
@DrTariqRamadan 9 ай бұрын
Love and respect 💐
@tariqabdulwahad
@tariqabdulwahad 10 ай бұрын
JAK amazing podcast.May Allah reward you.
@raboyetribeshowchannel8519
@raboyetribeshowchannel8519 10 ай бұрын
Such beautiful podcast talk
@Fisherman447
@Fisherman447 10 ай бұрын
brilliant discusion. Jazak allah khauran
@Md_sadiq_Md
@Md_sadiq_Md 10 ай бұрын
Pushing the algorithm ❤
@natalie8713
@natalie8713 10 ай бұрын
Thank you once again @onepath ♥️
@abuahmedbabillail3882
@abuahmedbabillail3882 10 ай бұрын
Taqabbal Allah! Jazak Allah Khair! It's calms to see such people perhaps it's Baraka of Quraan and Hadeeth in there Act...
@alifah_n
@alifah_n 10 ай бұрын
Marvelous discussion! Just something I truly need to hear for my broken heart. This era of refuting, slandering and talking harshly about muslim speakers or scholars has made me so sad, upset, broken to the point it feels more like a grief, very painful piercing through the heart. May Allah soften our qalbs towards our muslim brothers and sisters... we're family, not enemy. Let's stop this online rage and madness. We're all muslim ummah, not dogs with rabies (sorry it sounds harsh, but I don't have any better analogy)
@beth1979
@beth1979 10 ай бұрын
It is heartbreaking, yes. 😢
@YouBuyWeRush
@YouBuyWeRush 10 ай бұрын
Except Nouman Ali Khan. He’s trying to make music halal to appease the people. He sold out his religion.
@sweetmelon3365
@sweetmelon3365 10 ай бұрын
That's a lie and a misrepresentarion. There are varieties of opinion on music even some prominent scholars like gazali and others have permitted it with conditions. Yes, the majority opinion is that music is impressible but you should not slander people when what they're saying is not wrong. He is such a beneficial person to the ummah, don't spread such slander or you'll be answerable on the day of judgement
@YouBuyWeRush
@YouBuyWeRush 10 ай бұрын
@@sweetmelon3365 you just want to follow your desires and listen to haram filth while pretending that you are worshipping Allah. Fear Allah. NONE of the popular music out there is good. It promotes absolute filth.
@chomo54andbabyaisha97
@chomo54andbabyaisha97 10 ай бұрын
@@YouBuyWeRush Do you have any scientific miracles from the queer'an for us? *surah 18:86* Pagan moon god Lah claims that the sun sets in a spring of hot water WHAT a cult
@ideas5663
@ideas5663 9 ай бұрын
Very good interview, Thank you very much.
@Abu-Obadah
@Abu-Obadah 10 ай бұрын
ما شاء الله اللهم بارك
@alimasiga8422
@alimasiga8422 10 ай бұрын
May unite our Ummah.
@hadithoftheday3858
@hadithoftheday3858 10 ай бұрын
“Allah Almighty said: O son of Adam, stand for Me, and I will walk to you. Walk to Me, and I will come running to you.” 🌹Musnad Aḥmad 15925
@ViolettaVie
@ViolettaVie 10 ай бұрын
What does he mean by 'stand for me'?
@warfaali
@warfaali 10 ай бұрын
@@ViolettaVieit means stand for the word of Allah be submissive to Allah only and follow his laws.
@ViolettaVie
@ViolettaVie 10 ай бұрын
@@warfaali Alhumdulillah, thank you.
@warfaali
@warfaali 10 ай бұрын
@@ViolettaVie but honestly I don’t know if that Hadith are authentic
@ViolettaVie
@ViolettaVie 10 ай бұрын
@@warfaali Thanks for your honesty.
@syedfraza
@syedfraza 10 ай бұрын
Extremely beneficial message esp. for the times of sensationalism and cancel culture that we live in! Allah does not count people (in quantity), He (subhanahu wa ta'ala) weighs them (in quality according to their intentions, actions etc.). JazakumAllahu khairun for being focused on the quality of the message and not the viewership, this ikhlaas will change our lives and that of the society in shaa Allah.
@HN-fh8di
@HN-fh8di 8 ай бұрын
When the shiek explains delicately that timing to advice someone is important, like the example of the companion replying back, what devil, I’m not possessed. Timing takes someone who is cognisant, whom themselves, exercise metacognition and more importantly what is the intention behind their action, emotional intelligence, resilience, and like the shiek said would it bring evil than good. Timing is like golden apples in a silver basket. Jazkum Allah khaiyr for this very needed topic.
@smaily83
@smaily83 10 ай бұрын
Asalamwalekom. Mabrok on the new studio
@ahmedbadawy8568
@ahmedbadawy8568 10 ай бұрын
Finally!
@ryyyful
@ryyyful 9 ай бұрын
Jazakallah! This talk was needed, I have been noticing a lot of this social media call outs and it is just promoting more confusion and distrust. I would like to request another topic of conversation, there is a lot of confusion among men and polygamy. Some men seem to think they do not need to speak to their wives before deciding as long as they have enough money and some think that because they cannot conceive, it gives them right to marry another. I have a daughter and a son and it scares me to think some men may think like this without considering all the teachings. I apologize if you have already covered this, I would be grateful for some guidance so I may teach my kids the right things. Jazakallah!
@muslimresponse103
@muslimresponse103 10 ай бұрын
truth cannot die!
@fatoubojang9768
@fatoubojang9768 9 ай бұрын
Alhamdulilah
@thewaytosalvation145
@thewaytosalvation145 10 ай бұрын
What Dawah Drama? Enjoining Good and Forbidding Evil? An imam is saying it's fine for a muslimah to have an interview in the PLAYBOY MAGAZINE. Another "scholar" saying he defends insulting Prophet Muhammad. Another Scholar says we should defend LGBT rights to marry Are ya'll defending Fasad/Corruption?
@Al7amdulilah
@Al7amdulilah 10 ай бұрын
May His finest peace and blessings be upon the best of His creation and the seal of His revelation and the best of guides for all of time Muhammed ﷺ and his family and his companions and all who adhere to his guidance اللهم امين ثم امين
@maiwandnawabi3577
@maiwandnawabi3577 10 ай бұрын
most important video so far
@rahimsvoice
@rahimsvoice 10 ай бұрын
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, should not hurt his neighbor and whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, should serve his guest generously and whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day, should speak what is good or keep silent."
@infonet184
@infonet184 10 ай бұрын
Source/reference plz
@rahimsvoice
@rahimsvoice 10 ай бұрын
​@@infonet184Sahih al-Bukhari 6136
@Waqqas.Khokhar
@Waqqas.Khokhar 10 ай бұрын
Careful, talking common sense is frowned upon in many KZbin circles.
@infonet184
@infonet184 10 ай бұрын
@@rahimsvoice thank you. 😁👍 Jazakah lahu kayran
@thewaytosalvation145
@thewaytosalvation145 10 ай бұрын
Yeah and Critizing Johnatan Brown for saying he defends the Right to Insult Prophet Muhammad is now seen as bad adab or fitnah
@Flower-qq7je
@Flower-qq7je 10 ай бұрын
These Dawah people “Refuting” of known Islamic scholars did so much damage. Because, we as general people don’t know what is authentic and not authentic, those deep subjects. Then we started watching those well known scholars and learning lot about Islam. But some random Dawah KZbinrs started “refuting” these scholars, which only created confusion and chaos. I decided I rather trust a scholar who spent their life time for studying and teaching Islam, and bear in mind that since they are human they might make mistakes here and there, but I will trust them more than a random Dawah guys. And there will be disagreements, differences on opinions on some topics even amongst scholars, but it should not be a reason to “cancel” them out, and publicly shame them, refute them on a KZbin video which people like us who have little knowledge on Islam is watching, and getting confused. Just go and talk to the scholar directly if you think they are making mistakes. Just don’t ruin their trust and reputation and make us confused.
@sweetmelon3365
@sweetmelon3365 10 ай бұрын
Spot on
@BruvahSulaiman
@BruvahSulaiman 10 ай бұрын
It's almost like confusing the average person is the goal. You become skeptical of ppl who studied more than the person you follow so you stop listening to everyone else. I've seen so many ppl in the comments saying they only trust this or that content creator. What you never hear from these refutation obsessed content creators is them telling ppl to find real live in person scholars or to establish themselves as active members of a masjid or community. They don't promote community building nor do they advise people to use less social media. Likely because their income is tied to selling online courses and selling those courses requires online promotion. They need ppl to be on social media and they need ppl to avoid going to learn from any source that doesn't lead to the sale of one of their courses. All praise to Allah, I avoid the back and forth much easier after abandoning some channels. But when I did fall into debating issues in the comments I would tell ppl not to take my word for anything and to screenshot our conversation and show it to their sheikh, local Imam or teacher and ask them who was right. Sometimes ppl would have the audacity to straight up say they don't care about the opinions of any scholars. Most times the conversation would end there. However, no one ever took the challenge and actually came back to reveal what their local scholar or Imam had to say about the issue. Because most of the time the ppl you find online are online so much due to the fact that they don't go to the masjid more than on Friday or at least they don't go for anything other than prayer. They don't sit with scholars and that's why they don't learn good manners. They aren't active members of a Muslim community with practicing friends who hold them accountable in real life. They don't often have their names or faces on display on their accounts because they don't want ppl who know them to know what they have been saying or listening to online. They become members of online "communities" because they don't have real communities and some of these content creators know this and use it to their advantage.
@MA-ts9qt
@MA-ts9qt 10 ай бұрын
I’m hearing this is because of ‘salafism’
@ahlakhan6696
@ahlakhan6696 9 ай бұрын
Not all dawah brothers are like that.... The problem is people these days like drama... Those who do drama become more famous than those who don't. Look at Muslim lantern brother who does dawah with 0 drama, full fact but highly underrated
@zaidpansare4895
@zaidpansare4895 Ай бұрын
​@@MA-ts9qtNahh... The scholars that are being refuted, they themselves, adhere to the Aqeedah and Manhaj of Salaf.
@mclovin1071
@mclovin1071 10 ай бұрын
Infighting between Muslims will never stop. It was prophesied to start on the day Uthmaan (RA) was killed, and continue on until the end of time. The question is, will we be part of the never ending problem, or will we be like Abdullah ibn Umar.
@mumshorts
@mumshorts 10 ай бұрын
Omg exactly!!! This video should have been made ages ago
@rg6982
@rg6982 10 ай бұрын
This is fantastic brothers! Thank you for making this, wish I can @ few dawah individuals
@Waqqas.Khokhar
@Waqqas.Khokhar 10 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, talking reason does no good for people who don't want to be reasoned with.
@rg6982
@rg6982 10 ай бұрын
​@@Waqqas.Khokharyou're spot on
@waleeddaud3157
@waleeddaud3157 9 ай бұрын
100percent agree.
@adebayoluq
@adebayoluq 10 ай бұрын
Insightful
@specialk5850
@specialk5850 10 ай бұрын
Finally, someone who addresses this issue
@brandnew1304
@brandnew1304 9 ай бұрын
I find it very entertaining I used to watch rap beef videos before so I think it's a better replacement
@Mr.Preston3991
@Mr.Preston3991 10 ай бұрын
Broo there's rift growing between Muslims online and its mad annoying. It seems like very tiny minute issues too. Or intentional misunderstandings. May Allah help guide us all. Ameen.
@Aleehashmi00
@Aleehashmi00 10 ай бұрын
FIRST ❤
@princessmargaretfalamoe
@princessmargaretfalamoe 3 ай бұрын
SALAM ALAIKUM ✨ INSHA'ALLAH 🕊️ ALHAMDULILLAH 🤗 ALLAH AKBAR 👑✨🕊️ ♥️ 🌈 🦅✨
@Waqqas.Khokhar
@Waqqas.Khokhar 10 ай бұрын
Jazākum Allāhu Khayran for the much needed reboot.
@furqes
@furqes 10 ай бұрын
Alhamdulillah
@TariqKanhal
@TariqKanhal 10 ай бұрын
Thank you man, finally someone decided to face them for what they did to our religion reputation
@lyesamazigh4467
@lyesamazigh4467 10 ай бұрын
machaallah
@MPM_News
@MPM_News 9 ай бұрын
I agree. Can’t believe people do it for a LIVING
@Timur_Alma-ata
@Timur_Alma-ata 10 ай бұрын
Muslims should remember that they must love and respect each other, despite differences in understanding the religion. They should discuss disagrements publicly, using references from Quran and sunna, always remembering that they are closer to each other than to their own siblings.
@Rabbi-Jill-kews
@Rabbi-Jill-kews 10 ай бұрын
Respecting muslims by name or muslims by minimal Virtue and action atleast? Screw that
@thewaytosalvation145
@thewaytosalvation145 10 ай бұрын
You love an imam who is promoting and sharing links to Playboy magazine? Or a "scholar" who says he defend the right to INSULT Prophet Muhammad? Wallahi what religion are you guys following?
@tuhinhosaain5104
@tuhinhosaain5104 10 ай бұрын
Wallahi specially in uk some brothers in speakers corner SubahanAllah 365 days fighting fighting fighting over akida over this over every little thing grown up educated men fighting over this small matters. Prophet (pbuh) said there will be a house for you in jannah if you don’t argue with someone even you are on haq . So my pov is very simple have to leaarn knowledge first(3) lot of knowledge about deen then go for the dawah and those knowledge will totally change your character then your dawah will be similar like the sahabas rahimaullah . As long as we all the muslims over the whole world are not united totally 100 percent then we will always be in the weaker side . As salam u alaiakum
@MrSongib
@MrSongib 8 ай бұрын
49:20 So true.
@sweetmelon3365
@sweetmelon3365 10 ай бұрын
Most of these popular daees on KZbin see the debating and arguing as an entertainment. The thumbnails and titles are presented in a way to garner clicks. What's worse is that many a times wrong info is being spread in the name of Islam because these daees have not studied Islam properly. Before giving dawah, one must give dawah to himself, purify his intentions, cleanse his character, and gain knowledge
@Yahya-Jahja
@Yahya-Jahja 10 ай бұрын
Also using philosophy and science to give dawa, what's that all about. They get caught up in all the nonsense trying to prove others wrong and it consumes them completley, they just patrol the internet and reality looking to prove others wrong for the sake of arguing. Shame.
@isafcb312
@isafcb312 10 ай бұрын
It’s a shame what’s going on so much fitnah, slander and name calling going on
@JesusisaMuslim
@JesusisaMuslim 10 ай бұрын
They should sit down and talk.
@ViolettaVie
@ViolettaVie 10 ай бұрын
If you make people think they cannot be redeemed and they believe you, on the Day of Judgment you will be held accountable for preventing them from seeking Allah's forgiveness.
@ibrahimhmohamuod1082
@ibrahimhmohamuod1082 9 ай бұрын
its reality according to our Prophet Muhammad PABBUH internal war of Muslim Ummaha and its disunity bring the 💔 damage😢😢😢
@AhmedAhmed-bx8hx
@AhmedAhmed-bx8hx 10 ай бұрын
This is sadly a disease in the ummah. A great example is the social app Clubhouse. There are hoards of sunni muslims who have a certain aqeedah who wish to dominate the dawah scene and make terrible fitna amongst sunni muslims and are very harsh to non muslims. Even well known established dawah carriers are on this app always infighting and making trouble . Allah protect us. Ameen
@Qk2500
@Qk2500 10 ай бұрын
Loved it !
@me-lx8ei
@me-lx8ei 10 ай бұрын
You need to adress balance in refutation.. its part of deen to refute in public and private
@keekl6870
@keekl6870 10 ай бұрын
Hate it very much to see influential Muslims fight like cats and dogs online. I clicked on one or 2 refutations and counter refutations among them at first. Then I stopped clicking on any vids that contain dramas, refutations and counter refutations. Sad also to see sectarianism among their fanboys
@vcdrrj
@vcdrrj 8 ай бұрын
A true Muslim, salafi takes his religion from the book and the sunna and from true scholars, not from half-informed video artists who can't distinguish the authentic hadith from the weak.
@nonnynedd5962
@nonnynedd5962 10 ай бұрын
When i see a video where daie calling each other out i just keep scrolling never want to click the video. Im here to learn to gain knowledge not for the drama. Its irritating and embarassing even the some of the people who want to revert brought this issue up because its confuse them
@Lifejourney69
@Lifejourney69 10 ай бұрын
Everyone claiming to do dawa . Who follows the islamic approach to dawa
@MichiganTroopers123
@MichiganTroopers123 10 ай бұрын
Take note everyone of what they said about the scholars and criticising scholars
@user-zy7fs4ho7e
@user-zy7fs4ho7e 4 ай бұрын
It's good that the bad Apples are exposed.
@ahlakhan6696
@ahlakhan6696 9 ай бұрын
Not all dawah brothers all like that.... problem is people these days like drama, those who are involved, get more reach.. while who don't involve in all this, are not popular. Fault lies in the people too who watches n enjoys slandering Look at Muslim lantern brother who does dawah with 0 drama, full fact but highly underrated
@Yesu
@Yesu 10 ай бұрын
Al Hamdu Lilah
@furqes
@furqes 10 ай бұрын
Jazakallah khr for this, whenever I see the calling out videos, it makes me cringe, and I remind myself that a believer should mind his own business and alhamdulillah I don't watch those videos
@thepureheart195
@thepureheart195 8 ай бұрын
Two Questions for Mohammad Elshinway since he is explaining the context and background of a ruling and its subtle reasonings or wisdom of Hadith there is a reason behind the Prophet's advice and also reasons behind a ruling. A lot Hadith or not explained properly or background and the you have Imams and people of little knowledge who think they know but actually dont plus dont have the IQ or intelligence. Our Islamic scholars of the past the 4 schools of thought and their students were brilliant and bright. 1 - Is taking a bath on a Friday recommended or compulsory thing? I read somewhere cant remember exactly a person either asked Aisha or he asked through third person that did he need to take a bath.. it was Friday/Friday prayer that day. The background was the man was a labourer working on a field so his clothes smelt and his body was sweaty and obviously smelt of sweat. The Prophet (saw) advised for the person to take a bath. So is tis because it was Jummah and or the person needed a change of clothes and have a bath to be clean and fresh for Jummah. 2 - Wearing your trousers above the ankles. I read that the Prophet (saw) advised his early followers to look different to the rest of society at the time, so advised to grow the beard and trim the moustache as the non-muslim pagan Arabs used to shave mainly. He also advised them to wear their thobes etc above the ankles or were shorter length thongs that dont get dragged on the floor as the Non-Muslim pagan Arabs used to wear long thongs out of pride, that would get dirty and torn as used to touch the ground (so used to get ruined/damaged/dirt on them especially the lower part of the garment easily) and so they used to buy new ones quite frequently quite wasteful basically). So did the Prophet advise his followers to wear the thongs higher above the ankles for 1) to look different and 2) for practical reasons so to not get the garment ruined/dirty/damaged easily, or is the reason both? I ask as they are Imams who say you MUST wear your trousers or jeans etc above the ankles especially from the Indian subcontinent! What is the reason and background why the Prophet advised this to his followers? For practical wearing necessity or to look different or both? I think our own lack of knowledge, aptitude, IQ, understanding can misinterpret rulings and Hadith.
@emaanali8009
@emaanali8009 10 ай бұрын
This is very much needed all these street dawah egoistical narcissists that use our religion for fame and views 😢
@Idowu_Balogun
@Idowu_Balogun 10 ай бұрын
I just saw a video on similar topic between Daniel and Imam Shuaib Webb May allah continue to aid us. Ameen
@HPzFreelance
@HPzFreelance 10 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, people have various views of this incident. Ultimately we must all realize this comes down to basics, such as playboy's place, LGHDTV's place in Islam. The answers no one doubts, apart for some Americans it seems including some Imam's there. No one in the rest of the world who is a Muslim will accept you nor your endorsements. There is no doubt this is why Islam is seeing a large growth and Muslims feel vindicated as the truth stands by its own strength and we don't need to compromise. What came out of this incident is nothing but humiliation of promoting such BS for what ever their reasons might be even if we give the benefit of the doubt. I think it's better to reflect, repent and be humble and see what people like Daniel are trying to say and come forward and do the right thing before you face Allah SWT.
@sammu
@sammu 9 ай бұрын
Very good video and good insight by the shaykh. Although I disagree with the premise that Muslim dawah scene is more divisive than ever. The more time one spends online, the more divisiveness they will see. The online sphere across any realm is divisive, not just in Islamic da’wah. What might be the bigger problem is that we are spending more time consuming material online vs in masajid (where the latter has much less divisiveness). Get off social media.
@KyaSaj-mq6wn
@KyaSaj-mq6wn 9 ай бұрын
Everything you do in this life.. advising or calling out etc... you yourself will be tested and trialed in the exact same thing your advising! Seen it happen so many times. So need to be careful..
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