Why NATO’s Biggest Internal Problem is Turkey

[@cragle1114]

13:30 - 14:05 the number you used for Marmara regions gdp per capita ($72,000) was accounting for purchase power parity (ppp) whereas the number for the rest of turkey or Europe was not using ppp marmara's actual gdp per capita is around $20,000 (2018) also the map you used to to show turkey's nationwide gdp per capita implies this is the gdp per capita for the area except for Marmara whereas the number includes it . the actual gdp per capita for the red area displayed on the map would be around $8,000 in terms of total gdp the Marmara region makes up for around 44% of turkeys economy not 75%

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

holy 💩 that is so sloppy! 👎 that number did seem very strange to me. I could see it being true for a city, but not for such a big largely rural area. I didn't look it up, but I definitely would have checked that before I put it in a youtube video.

[@ArkanceloAutore]

@@Ass_of_Amalek It's propaganda channel masking as an infotainment channel. It's okay.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

@@ArkanceloAutore whose propaganda?

[@DawnDudex]

I was about to comment that as well, such a misleading and poorly researched video to a point he even fucks up easily available information like this. very disappointing. I would take every piece of data he shares with a huge grain of salt

[@unworthy.potato]

It’s an hour long KZbin video, give it some slack. Data is not everything, the concepts behind them and what they explain are more important.

[@seriesmovies4195]

“Turkey isn’t Pro-Western nor is it Pro-Russian. Turkey is simply Pro-Turkey.” This quote is a short summary of the video.

[@komododragon410]

As every country should in't?

[@oliverxie9559]

So are China, Iran, and North Korea. Geopolitics in a nutshell.

[@novislav282]

A lesson for every country.

[@lawtraf8008]

As they should lol. Why would anybody be mad at Turkey being pro-Turkey?

[@komododragon410]

@@lawtraf8008 tbh? it would be USA! they hate when a country try to develop itself instead of taking care of their interests.

[@filthycoder6123]

It is funny that nobody asked this question "What the US and the UK are doing in Cyprus, Syria, and Iraq".

[@AyazCan52]

Stealing ofcourse & they are knowed for doing genocide world wide. The country’s that did genocide on first place Britain France Nederland Belgium Greece İtalia Armenia etc..

[@haberkedisi6674]

🙌🙌🙌

[@ebflegg]

Yes, the US occupies more of Syria than does Turkiye!

[@tolgag6245]

cant ask :) who ask this, that day writing global news ENEMY .. GOOD JOP BAD WW Near

[@54lolman]

Everyone one asks regarding Syria and Iraq whenever talk about the Middle East is brought up mate.

[@vulpes1936]

The side Turkey took in Libyan civil war is the one that is officially recognized by UN so the NATO members who sided with that general dictator are in the "wrong" here, this doesnt mean Turkey is acting against NATO considering almost all NATO members recognize the government Turkey supports

[@billsmoke3929]

It's typical anti-Turkish sentiment, ridiculous.

[@keepcalm2626]

Wasn't his mandate illegal because the governtment of Tripoli refused to do elections, hence it was UN backed up until that point?

[@mrtats6590]

@@billsmoke3929 Mentions Armenian genocide claims with maximum numbers. But when talking about Cyprus skips whole Bloody Christmas that happened a decade prior to the Invasion. Calls PKK a "separatist group" and not what they actually are, a terror organization that killed teachers and civilians. Killed Kurds and their families that were against an independent state or their ideologies in the region. Babies included.

[@ge0rgi0]

Tripoli government was recognized by the UN with the order to unite the country until 2017. After 2017 , the Tripoli government kept the power without any elections, and thus the country became divided. By the way UN also says that Turkey performed genocides and also militarily occupies northern Cyprus which is an illegitimate state and also doesnt respect the worldwide treaty of the seas (UNCLOS). So quit seeking legitimacy from the UN...

[@Magneticvortex-kk4gb]

@@billsmoke3929 turks aren't from turkey yet they're vehemently anti-kurdish. so cry more.

[@GoofyGoober7582]

This is the same guy that said "Scotland is Nato's biggest problem". WORD FOR WORD.

[@kairos_fluent]

I think a video about the Balkans geography and how that influenced the history and politics of that region would be very interesting.

[@RealLifeLore]

I'm actually working on this soon

[@w3aponex870]

@@RealLifeLoreI

[@kairos_fluent]

@@RealLifeLore Wow, you actually responded. Work as long as you need to, if it's like the middle east videos where it goes deep in the history and geography of it then the wait will be worth it.

[@Jalayir]

Turks indeed had a decisive role in triggering historical major events like the Migration Period, Crusades, shaping the history of Balkans, Islamization of Northern India, Age of Discovery as well as ending the Middle Ages with the conquest of Constantinople, fall of the Roman Empire.

[@ararune3734]

You mean how countless invasions from every direction influenced this region? Then people say "Balkans is unstable", no, you are all unstable and bring conflict here. When you look at history, most of conflicts in the Balkans were brought by external forces.

[@JustSome462]

Tbh in Libya it was actually France and Greece that were the odd ones out, the EU (besides Greece, Cyprus and France) and Italy in particular all backed the Tripoli based government (the same one backed by Turkey) so in that case it was more those three countries disagreeing with their allies Edit: It was/is also the government recognised by the UN

[@justanerd414]

I think at this point it's pretty safe to assume whoever France is supporting in African continent is the wrong side 😂

[@danielalexandre4008]

​@@justanerd414I'm afraid you're right. From France 😢

[@kenka9100]

Its "almost" everytime the west forcing turkey to be agressive. The problem with greece caused by greece claiming turkish sea territories in aegean sea, the problem with armenia caused by armenia invading 1/4 of azerbaijans territories, the reason turkey bought s400 from russia is because the US refused to sell modern nato anti-air systems to turkey so they instead bought the russian equivalent. Im not saying turkey has always been a peaceful country. But in fact, the EU and NATO have not been very nice to turkey as well

[@HEHSHSHSSHDJ]

@@kenka9100its easier to create a enemy instead of supporting eachother i guess. That pretty common in the west

[@maddogbasil]

Seeing how pretty much most of France's allies have pretty much kicked them out of Africa for charges of Neo-colonialism I think it's good to say that the French really shouldn't be seen as the good guys here They literally destabilize every place they enter

[@isooo8175]

The map you have for Sevres partition is wrong: 1) Greek invasion zone expanded far beyond what you have shown. It contained the whole western Anatolia. 2) Southern Turkey was given to Italy and France as mandates (colonies) 3) Independence and self determination was only for Christian minorities. Neither Arabs nor Kurds were given independence. Sevres said “Kurds were not ready for self governing”. A British mandate was to be formed which may be independent in future. Turkey offered a plebicit for Northern Iraq in Lausanne. Lord Curzon’s response was “how can Kurds decide in a plebicit, they would eat the papers”. I still have no clue how this is supposed to be funny.

[@issith7340]

Greece never invaded. Only tried to save as much greek people, as she could from wide genocide iver greek populations if the area that had started from around 1910. These genocides are well documented worldwide. Eg old focea masacre, etc etc

[@deadlyhunter2970]

Italians were promised western aegean reagons that the greeks invaded. They were given southern coastal states later and they reluctantly occupied those areas.

[@levongevorgyan6789]

Those same Kurds that were helping the Genocides of the Christian natives? Gee, I wonder why the Allies might be a bit leery of giving them free reign.

[@123rodak]

Ah Curzon... Polish people "love" him too.

[@hann5240]

" how did you know i was a turk?"

[@IamaCosmonaut]

Fact worth mentioning about the Libyan civil war is that the opposing side to Turkey is also supported by Russia. While rest of EU (minus Cyprus, France and Greece) and UK support the same side Turkey does. To say that the modern state of Libya is a mess is a serious understatement.

[@seto_kaiba_]

Technically a shitload of NATO countries (including the US) support Turkey’s side in the Libyan Civil War too.

[@sktt1488]

He lost me in first minute when he said turkey cut ıraqı kurdish pipeline as if turkey is to blame. The reality the pipeline is illegal according to ıraqı constitoun and turkey get fined 1,4 billion for it. This Fine is only covering 2014 2016. .. Now ıraq goverment is Prepareing for 2016 2022 in international court as well. His entire vdieo is full of anti turkish bias as if someone hater paid him.

[@taurohkea2169]

but it was turkish drones that stopped haftars attack

[@ceycey2648]

⁠@@taurohkea2169you know haftar is a warlord who is fighting for power against the rightful Tripoli government (backed by Turkey etc.).. so yes you are right

[@MAGAWillSaveTheWorld]

America isn't a NATO country, we just fund them almost 100%.

[@nightprowler6336]

​@@MAGAWillSaveTheWorldUSA is a NATO member and 1 of the founding members btw

[@sarah_fides]

Greece and Turkey signed a Friendship agreement in the 30s, and relations were generally friendly until the 50s. Venizelos, who was Prime Minister of Greece under the Second Republic and was instrumental in getting the Treaty of Friendship signed with Ataturk, even nominated Ataturk for the Nobel Peace Prize for his role in normalising Greek-Turkish relations and letting go of past hatreds for the sake of stability and prosperity. The municipal council of Thessaloniki, Greece's second largest city and the birthplace of Ataturk, even voted to give the ownership of Ataturk's house to the Turkish state as a museum in 1935, which you can visit today.

[@xrhstospex8106]

And after the second world war, we were fighting like babies, so the US came down here and war like, okay you two just shut up, you get a NATO membership wether you like it or not, and you better not keep up with the fight. Also, here, take some money and unite against the soviet threat. It didn't exactly work but it kinda also did

[@vavamast-di8oj]

You're not very bright, lol!

[@vavamast-di8oj]

Neanderthal!

[@secondchannel1523]

@billsmoke4919 Did turkey ever acknowledge and recognise the genocides of Armenians, Greeks, Kurds, Assyrians, the displacements, persecutions or the invasion of Cyprus and Syria yet ? I have honestly never come across a culture that's so proud of violence and harassment of other people. Do you really want to compare war crimes committed by Turks against Greeks on the island of Cyprus alone ?? Turks killed and r@ped so many more people it's not even a debate, it never was. EOKA b actions had nothing to do with the 1974 invasion since they did extactly what the Turkish leadership and their British partners wanted and expected them to do. Turks and British understood the geo-strategic importance of the island for a long time. Turkish settlers of Cyprus with the help of British soldiers had been smuggling weapons from Turkey through the northen Cyprus coast since the 1950s when the Greeks were too busy fighting against the British colonizers to liberate their homeland. They did that because they had been preparing the invasion long before it happened under the guise of a "peace internention" to "protect the turkish cypriots". Turkish imperialist expantionists in bed with British colonizers employing the usual British tactic of devide and conquer to justify military action in Cyprus. As soon as the Greeks of Cyprus earn their freedom after 1959 and 98% of them chose to unify with mother Greece (being native to the island for millenia as well as being linguistically, culturaly Greek), immedietly the turkish riots of 60-64 begin with the British playing both sides as usual. You know nothing about east mediterranean history. There is no such thing as "Greek Cypriots" and "Turkish Cypriots". There are the Greeks of Cyprus who have been living on the island for 3000 years, and then there is the turkish invaders-colonizers-settlers who captured our island in the 16th century along with the rest of the Greek territories in Asia Minor, mainland Greece and the islands of the Aegean. Turks came to the East Mediterranean as invaders from the central Asian steppe have you forgotten about that ? They are as foreign to the region as the west Europeans are in America and Australia.

[@GPS509]

Very informative comments

[@devonmoreau]

So many countries have territorial ambitions based on their past greatest extent, it's interesting to see how these overlap.

[@SolidAvenger1290]

This is why Eastern European geopolitics is more interesting and deeply unknown to many. For, Turkey, their ambitions date all the way back to after the Western Roman Empire and, later, the Byzantine Empire fell to the Ottomans. Antiola has always been more complex, and yet, like the Holy Roman Empire, with 3 layers of different subgroups- the French, Germans, and those in Luxemburg; Anatolia has many groups that align with either the West or the East depending on the centuries of empire. The Russians see themselves as the successor of the Byzantine Empire (dating back to when a Russian leader married one of the Byzantine Emperor's daughters) and want to help spread their influence in Eastern Turkey, while the Greeks, alongside the Western Europeans, want to keep Turkey on their side because the last thing the Greeks want is a power-hungry Turkish state in the Aegean Sea that did control them after the Fall of Constinlople in 1453 - they did want independence from the Byzantines as well amid the raging wars by Serbia, Bulgaria, and the Persian empires on the already declining Byzantium.

[@fainitesbarley2245]

@@SolidAvenger1290 Also - the population of western Anatolia was mostly Greek.

[@kevingeezy5176]

If the ottomans chose the right side in ww1 there would be no turkey, there also wouldn't be the constant issues between Isreal and Palestine and the other middle eastern nations

[@fainitesbarley2245]

@@kevingeezy5176 There would be no Palestine either. There were other issues though. For example Saudi determination to take the entire peninsula plus Shia/Sunni power struggles. The Egyptians/ Sauds went to war more than once. Also there would have been ongoing wars for independence within the empire. And Greeks would still be living in Anatolia and there would be more Armenians.

[@bandera-12322]

Turkey's problem is NATO. NATO is also undermining the Middle East through Turkey, seizing the Bosporus, forcing Turkey to accept 8 million refugees, does not want to accept refugees from the wars they have staged. It contains terrorist cells of the PKK Kurds in their countries, known for terrorist attacks in Turkey, and supplies ammunition to Kurdish terrorists. It is surprising when Turkey resists this... He will not let Turkey go peacefully, he will do a lot of shit if Turkey leaves NATO. He arranges bloody state coups. Contains radical Islamists in their countries and Gulen Okay, okay. Real, big problem

[@rolypoly4920]

I love that the Greeks after WW1 went "Can we Byzantine please?"

[@filipgutehall7925]

Turkey blocking NATO warships from entering the black sea is due to the Montreux Convention of 1936 which makes it so turkey cannot close the straits to warships of only one nationality, making it so only ships of the black sea countries's black seas fleet can enter.

[@ferry602]

Why should Turkey respect Conventions when the US doesn't care about any convention or agreement, the passage to and from the Black Sea is Turkey's country and property.

[@canerc6668]

Actually Turkiye can close the Bosphorus and Dardanelles to one side and did so in the past. For instance, in WW2 Ally ships could use the Black Sea but Axis couldn't.

[@420247paul]

cause they dont want to break out with a case of the america fuck yeah freedoms thats why@@ferry602

[@vipertiger4669]

Turkiye can close the straits!!!!Next time learn before comment!

[@Lee_NE_87]

⁠@@ferry602why Rome and others wanted to control that straight. Why Byzantium and now Istanbul are such mega cities.

[@Halil_A.]

I don't understand how the agreement signed in 1923 affected the events in 1915 and 1917?

[@Ereghro]

he is doing this on purpose bending time as to manipulate viewers into thinking that TR did those before the republic even existed. Even ww1 not over at 1917... things he say at 9:00 are clearly shows this.

[@neixene7742]

exactly there are lots of straight wrong information in this video essay.

[@kasadam85]

This video is anti-turkish

This video is full of factual mistakes. Let's just ignore it.

[@BoardGameTuerkiye]

That's the beauty of the western rhetoric. Just scatter some wikipedia info around and make bullshit conclusions

[@kiriseraph9674]

Imagine if Greece and Bulgaria agreed to build a really long canal through their territories to the Black Sea...

[@L1qu1d_5h4d0w]

Find the error….

[@KONSTANTINOS.NIKOLAOU]

Plan for now is roads and rails

[@mi1400]

This vlog has MANY FLAWS!!! 1. vlogger doesn't know Turkey is already making an alternate canal.. it will negotiate traffic tariffs through it n will artificially slow/restrict trafic through existing draconian pacts infested canal 2. Cyprus joining EU will/should mean EU is capturing Cyprus hence it will also mean that Turkey is not violating EU but like NATO is capturing Cyprus taking help from Turkey 3. @25:25 u ur knowledge is flawed as this vlog is flawed at many instances.... go and study 1965 UK median-line-distance-agreement to divide north sea between it, norway, denmark, netherlands and germany 4. regarding Israel, Cyprus, Greece gas pipeline ... well business is business as per above said UK's own law, so Libya and Turkey has right on those waters. 5. Over Greece calling France to fight along side .. in same way Libya could join Turkey 6. If Syria can loose 25% of landmass to W.Kurd or Syrian.Kurds then i think Syria could go the same path which Cyprus took and tried alliance with Greece... Whole Syria might end up what US calls "freedom"-ed by Turkey u can name "very-far-eastern-cyprus" Cheers from Pakistan!

[@spyridoneythymioskoulouris2777]

It was already planned 40 years ago

[@kiriseraph9674]

@@spyridoneythymioskoulouris2777 They need more shovels then.

[@bigsmoke-mi5cw]

the part about the Russian ships into the black sea and not allowing American is more to do with the Montreux Convention where black sea nations can have their warships enter and leave but none black sea nations can't, if i recoil that correctly. and note i know for none black sea nation there is a calibre limit for them to be classed as a proper warship.

[@stevenpace892]

In addition, Russian ships not based there can not enter during the war, nor can Russia's black sea fleet exit into the Mediterranean.

[@user-em1uu8oz9j]

He’s purposely framing it that way to make Turkey look bad.

[@Runo1923]

Türkiye implemented this to de-escalate the war and limiting the danger of causing WW3. Even non-Black Sea based Russian navy ships couldn't pass the straits because of the same convention. Anti-Turkish sentiments are horrible.

[@michael9433]

The entry of non-Black Sea ships is only limitable during war time. So since russia is at war with Ukraine, Turkey can choose when to block non-Black sea ships. They could allow the entire russian navy in if they so wanted.

[@attilamarics3374]

@@michael9433 technically they arent in a war thou.

[@Oldmanplum]

Really the best comparison for Turkey is France. France has always maintained a France first policy and has no qualms about diverting from the rest of the west when interests dont fully align. It is likewise why France and Turkey butt heads so often in the last few years. Both playing the same game but from opposing sides

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

so what you're saying is frexit, yes?

[@Oldmanplum]

@semechkiforputin6920 Not neccesarily. France usually prickles more with NATO and G7 rather than picking a fight in the EU. It does diverge with the EU at times, it just doesn't broadcast it as much. The only time I could Frexit happening is a situation where France no longer feels that it has a preeminent position in the EU alongside only Germany

[@fusionreactor7179]

France is playing really badly though. France has no actual interests in the Eastern Mediterranean yet they try to dip their toes, they have gotten their ass handed to them in Africa in the past decade and their EU policy is pathetically bad not to mention AUKUS basically told them to f**k away back to Europe in a giant insult. Sorry but France is playing the game exceptionally bad. It just a waiting game to see which African country will expel all French nationals and ban French next.

[@brettquimby3274]

@Oldmanplum I actually think that France will become a major headache for NATO in the future, especially Germany. As Germany sees its' population gets older and declines, its' industries move overseas, its' energy resources becoming less cheap and reliable as time goes on and its' export driven economy dragged down by these factors, Germany will see itself become less capable and powerful on the European mainland. Conversely, France will grow in power because its' population will keep growing and stay comparatively younger, its' industries will largely remain on its home turf, its' energy needs being largely met at home and the French economy having more diverse form of income rather than depending too much on exports. The fact is, France has always wanted to be the great hegemon of Europe, but circumstances have stood in the way of France achieving this. With Russia eventually getting eaten away by China and Turkey caught up in plethora of messes in North Africa, the Middle East and the Balkans, Germany remains the sole remaining nearby obstacle for France to contend with. For now, France would like to preserve its' relationship with Germany because German economic and industrial power give France additional weight at the negotiation table when pushing back against others like Britain and America. When Germany's capacity drops and loses the value it has to France, the latter will begin to make certain requests that are detrimental to the former. With Germany having its' economic dynamism weakened and its' military being decidedly inferior to France's more modern and experienced military forces, the only options Germany will have are 1) give in to the French's demands and cede to their dominance or 2) refuse and resist in vain.

[@Levo_D_Angelo]

best comment, expert level !

[@jasonfischer8946]

It's always amazing to me that any former empire that wants to expand will always use historical claims that are the most advantageous to them, and they never acknowledge one slightly less advantageous. Edit: For the few morons who don't get it, I'm not actually surprised about it. It's a sardonic comment. Of course, they're going to do that. It's called selfishness

[@HowNowBrownCow69]

Elaborate or who cares

[@jasonfischer8946]

@@HowNowBrownCow69 Is like truth or dare?

[@michaelbread5906]

Just wait till Britain has Lelouch at the helm.

[@MetoF50Narliev]

Duh.

[@jasonfischer8946]

​@HowNowBrownCow69 I'll give you one example. Russia wants to gain control over Ukraine because the Russian Empire and the USSR once had control of the area. However, they ignore that Crimea was once its own nation and didn't have anything to do with Russia. Like I said, they ignore the historical claim that is disadvantageous to them.

[@Akpinaratakan]

Pkk is not a representative of kurdish people

[@Rai-jin7]

Yes it is. Majority of kurds wants independence from what I saw in social media.

[@Akpinaratakan]

@ I have a lot of kurdish friends and i live in turkey and all of them are fine with turkey dont believe social media all the people there are militans

[@ahb963]

@@Rai-jin7 Onların şımarık istekleri neyi değiştirecek? Bende gerçek hayatta bağımsızlık isteyen kürt görmedim.

[@Asdib6]

​​@@Rai-jin7 said random woke american

[@sanatkar2502]

​@@Rai-jin7social media 🙃😁

[@thadreimagined9391]

"Recognize a genocide in retaliation" sounds like the most absurd removed-from-human-compassion, Machiavelli-like thing.

[@aeb2115]

something that usa would do

[@KAAN_TR]

Any proof of so called genocide?

[@shamanthjilla]

USA has always used human rights as a beating stick

[@moutsatsosa]

Did anyone expect anything else from USA geopolitical strategists?

[@oguzhanbirgul6347]

'just be under my patronace'

[@sjfreitas90]

The whole Marmara region GDP per capita doesn’t add up. I see many conflicting sources, even with PPP calculations, it’s not even close to 70k USD…

[@Pan472]

Cooked up statistics. Same goes for the country's GDP in purchasing power parity statistics. While inflation is still on triple digits on in the high double digits at the least, dwindling the average citizen's purchasing power, it says that it's 40+ thousand dollars. While the nominal GDP is just 15k $.

[@memeolski]

the pp for the whole of turkey is around 37k, assuming marmara region being much richer and the rest poorer, it could somehow reach 70k USD turkish ppp is far larger than their nominal gdp, because of really high difference in cost of stuff in turkey and the rest of the world

[@sol18177]

I lived in Marmara region my whole life, I can assure you I would have noticed if we were richer than Europeans.

[@Pan472]

@@memeolski Inflation is at double digits at the least (officially), and in reality, in many goods, triple digits. The purchasing power parity of the average Turkish citizen is basically non-existent with such amounts of inflation. Who are you even mocking? Instead of believing your own government, how about you see reality, where an enormous portion of Turks cannot even buy bread daily, due to the astronomical rise in its price, among many, many other goods?

[@memeolski]

its not being richer than europeans, but making more stuff than europeans on average giving to export amount of marmara region, its clear the stuff is not being consumed by turkish customers and simply rich 1% of turkey gain all the 72000$ by exporting those product's to europe in european cost's of stuff and giving little to people because of turkish low workers cost's@@sol18177

[@RuminatingGuardian]

You forgot to mention that the Muslim Brotherhood was democratically elected in Egypt, which is a first for the Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East.

[@Levo_D_Angelo]

@@pandaking6254 quit your suscription, this guy is a facist Turks hater, a radical one, probably paid from some Lobbies.

[@nightprowler6336]

​@@pandaking6254so? Sisi was democratically elected too

[@CalifornianSupremacy]

@@pandaking6254sure bud, you gonna defend ISIS next cause “they were democratically elected” It’s a shithole of a country, no way the election was free or legitimate.

[@be1342]

Sisi was elected against his opposition that was thrown in prison by the army that Sisi was apart of. Sounds very “democratic”

[@nosmokejazwinski6297]

@@nightprowler6336no, he wasn’t. He came to power via a coup

[@nelliecharles5153]

Thanks you for this information may there be peace in those countries 🙏

[@mawkernewek]

14:00 that is mathematically impossible, for a region representing a third of the population to have an average GDP per capita of $72000 while the whole country having an average GDP per capita of $11900.

[@doniscan4246]

It's originally %33-35 numbers are mistaken . Greetings from that area :))

[@apexaviour]

Looks like they used the PPP value for Marmara and nominal for nationwide GDP per capita (so comparing apples with oranges). GDP per capita (PPP value) for the nation as a whole is around $42K. Which makes Marmara about 2.5x as wealthy as the rest of the nation.

[@atsimas]

I just want to point out that Dardanelia also controls the sea trade, but you only hear them as part of geography rather than an issue. I wonder why.

[@speedwaytypist4633]

For those of you wondering, the original title was about Turkey threatening NATO dominance.

[@misc1453]

I wonder what would happen if Turkey were to put forth this statement: "The government of Turkey does not recognise the validity of international waters, nor the individualisation of national waters aside from that of the Turkish nation".

[@sunshine848]

real title : NATO countries do not care about Turkey's territorial integrity

[@Clippidyclappidy]

@@misc1453You mean like how they are already doing with Greece?

[@LilBombasta]

​@misc1453 simple, they would be removed from nato and their navy sank by France and Greece since they have a defence alliance

[@Samilov]

@@LilBombasta they try that in the 1919 and get their ass kicked want you try again

[@rossfrazier3501]

This channel is one of the best I've ever seen.

[@kingwing3203]

NATO is the terrorist who started the war

[@mi1400]

This vlog has MANY FLAWS!!! 1. vlogger doesn't know Turkey is already making an alternate canal.. it will negotiate traffic tariffs through it n will artificially slow/restrict trafic through existing draconian pacts infested canal 2. Cyprus joining EU will/should mean EU is capturing Cyprus hence it will also mean that Turkey is not violating EU but like NATO is capturing Cyprus taking help from Turkey 3. @25:25 u ur knowledge is flawed as this vlog is flawed at many instances.... go and study 1965 UK median-line-distance-agreement to divide north sea between it, norway, denmark, netherlands and germany 4. regarding Israel, Cyprus, Greece gas pipeline ... well business is business as per above said UK's own law, so Libya and Turkey has right on those waters. 5. Over Greece calling France to fight along side .. in same way Libya could join Turkey 6. If Syria can loose 25% of landmass to W.Kurd or Syrian.Kurds then i think Syria could go the same path which Cyprus took and tried alliance with Greece... Whole Syria might end up what US calls "freedom"-ed by Turkey u can name "very-far-eastern-cyprus" Cheers from Pakistan!

[@webexia]

@@mi1400 Open a book. You desperatelly need it. (the ones with words.. not just pictures..). If you cannot, find a girlfriend, cause it shows tou need that too.....

[@mariox204]

​@@webexiathere is a non 0 posibility that this a loteral goverment paid internet troll for Turkish propaganda

[@ahmadnaggayev3637]

Why the name of the video was changed from “How Turkey is Rebuilding the Ottoman Empire Again ” to “Why NATO’s biggest internal threat is Turkey”?

[@Nickel_Eye]

they are synonymous with each other

[@hgks12]

To see which title attracts the most viewers, so that the video will get clicks and views

[@leke90]

Because this video nothing more than standart westoid black propaganda material aimed towards Turkey's reputation.

[@hungryducker2990]

anti turkish propaganda 💀

[@MojiMikato]

@@Nickel_Eye Im pretty sure you dont have a hatred towards Turks. 👍🏼

[@mrzimothy]

To your point on the Kirkuk Ceyhan pipeline; it’s much more complicated than Erdogan shutting it down. Iraq took Turkey to international court over it because of a treaty signed in the 1970’s that said all oil sold to Turkey needs to be sold through the Iraqi State Organization for Marketing oil, which the KRG was not doing. Was it Erdogan or was it Baghdad who had beef with the KRG over this? Who knows. Could have been both, could have been one party or the other.

[@cigdemylmaz1532]

anti Turkish video. Says nothing about GENOCIDAL INVASIONS of Anatolia by European countries during WW1, which resulted in 3.5 million Turkish civilian deaths. Or complete EXTERMINATION of Turkish communities in Greece. Disgusting.

[@oguzalikan6550]

the clown is aiming to blame Turkiye on everything that is why he wasn't mention about that. Turkiye buying oil directly from KRG because of ISIS threat. That made Iraqi government pissed off since they losing money and demanded that money from Turkiye and got rejected. So they cut off the pipeline. But last month they said they will open it without demanding money because they are losing more money when pipeline is not working. The clown makes this incident looks like Turkiye punishing or had beef about someone lol his whoe aim is trying to demonize Turkiye

[@Exodon2020]

13:12 Germany has built a vast network of inland Canals though which link all major navigable rivers. Something loaded onto a barge in Regensburg or Ingolstadt is much more likely to be hauled towards Antwerp, Rotterdam or Hamburg, changing river through those Canals.

[@snasty99]

great video thanks

[@theoriginalshew]

Sneaky title changed from "How Turkey is rebuilding the Ottoman Empire" or something like that

[@beckysam3913]

this is why so many people hate media and news, bc the fake part is actually there.

[@ELdASenSei]

😂

[@zubeyirzbyr]

3:45 You should add Turkey's side of Libya's civil war which includes the US and UN.

[@zubeyirzbyr]

9:20 Between 1915-17, there was the Istanbul administration which was pro-Western, it did not want any race destruction because it was within the war era, I mean there was no exact policy to do that.

[@AnOptimisticNihilist]

Real ones remember when the title was “Why Turkey is Restoring the Ottoman Empire”

[@SomeDude1000]

How* And the current title was the first title, the that title but then he changed it back to the current title

[@Fle-2870]

I'm not turks but How on earth do you want for turkey to stand with Nato members when Nato Members Supported a military coup and a terrorist organisation doing acts against Turkey..... Common sense seems that the NATO members lacks it !!!!

[@mr_______x]

Romania and Bulgaria were not in the USSR, they were aligned to the Soviet Union, but not part of it.

[@andraslibal]

This video contains so many factual errors that it is hard to list, from the 1683 map of the Ottoman Empire to the Map of the Treaty of Sevres, the lands granted to Italy, to the extent of Greek incursion, to the four year battle that Ataturk fought ... unfortunately I do not know about everything it mentions but if it is this gravely wrong about the few things that I do know, all the rest of if is highly questionable.

[@tristan7216]

Good point about accuracy vs boom. The revolution in guidance system electronics probably means that nuclear weapons don't really have a good battlefield use case these days, though they're still the strategic kings for the odd great power deathmatch. It's kind of shocking how many bombs and shells we had to expend to take out a target in WWII or korea, because you just had to blanket the area and hope something hit the target randomly.

[@ysti6552]

The people who are Turks today are 90% ancient Christian inhabitants of Byzantium, who forcibly changed and became Turks. Read the American Ambassador's book (HORTON GEORGE -- the blight of asia)

[@cavitturnali3890]

Ceyhan is not pronounced Seyhan. The “C” is pronounced like “j.” Seyhan is a completely different town.

[@PrezVeto]

This is why names should be respelled in foreign languages, like they used to be.

[@thedarkpassenger84]

His pronunciation of Turkish is absolutly atrocious. I was genuinely confused half the time.

[@nightbot.2817]

@@thedarkpassenger84 turkish is the best and easiest form of latin proof me wrong

[@thedarkpassenger84]

lmfao I dont think its latin tho. it was latinized maybe idk.@@nightbot.2817

[@wordart_guian]

@@nightbot.2817if you go against latinate usage you’re wrong

[@elyesa13]

Did you know who else also has not signed the UN Law of the Sea Convention? It‘s the good old Uncle Sam! Just sayin…

[@Runo1923]

There are also others. It is not like something everyone has to obey.

[@besteyldz6601]

Anyone who sees the map can see how atrocious that convention is, giving that little greek island of 600 inhabitants 600 km^'2 of waterzone is ridiculous

[@aris_32]

​@@besteyldz6601Why would it be? Those islands are not artificial for their EEZ to not be considered.

[@elyesa13]

@@aris_32 The maritime border in the english channel is the median line between the UK and France. British islands inside the french EEZ have a 12 nautical miles EEZ pocket on their side. This is what a greek island near turkey like Kastellrozio should also have as EEZ. Because it is just common sense. Greek interpretation of EEZ is just extremely invasive and outright provacative.

[@tatilla933]

​@@besteyldz6601 he added the population of greek islands but didn't added how many people living the West of Turkey, (40.000.000-50.000.000) These guys are fun:D Also his maps, GDP numbers, so many wrong info.

[@zan1971]

This is like a the biggest game being played on the planet. Everyone wants to get oil reserves and everyone wants military so they can eventually establish their entire land mass.

[@shazanali692]

Maybe women can run it, then they will share, 😊

[@zan1971]

@@shazanali692 Lol you think women aren't equally power hungry assholes who will screw everyone over for their own benefit? Very naive.

[@E4439Qv5]

​@@shazanali692read that as *ruin first; agree ☕

[@selinozgur]

Consider how boring it is to be the citizens of Portugal or Spain 😂😂

[@E4439Qv5]

@@selinozgur Spain, no. Migrants in Northern Africa looking to cross the Med at a nice narrow point, or to sneak into Ceuta &/or Melilla on the coast to enter EU territory. Portugal... there's a Brazillion reasons why it's not boring to be a Portuguese.

[@adamgroszkiewicz814]

So why was the title of the video changed from "How Turkey is Rebuilding the Ottoman Empire?"

[@MojiMikato]

He realized that he displayed how much Turkophobe he is openly and wanted to hide that behind a mask of lies. This video is nothing but self centered “ Why Turkey and Turks bad “. Im not an Erdoğan supporter yet there are many things goes well beyond AKP and Neo Islamists. The Aegean Sea issue affects all of us and we as a country unilaterally support the current governments actions regardless of the government we have.

[@thedarkpassenger84]

He also changed it to NATO's Catastrophic Turkey Problem while I was in the middle of watching it. He got so many things wrong in this video and is very biased. I remember his old videos just showed Turkey as badass now he's just painting them as the bad guys.

[@thedarkpassenger84]

​@@MojiMikatoOn God anyone looking objectively can see how unfair the maritime borders are against Turkey

[@thinktank1621]

​@@thedarkpassenger84im sure he's funded by certain lobbyists to do this video

[@morwickchesterham3875]

Real Life Lore is a propaganda subcontractor for the US state department... his handler must have told him to change the title...

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

@49:38 We have been recovering those advanced american arms from PKK militants ever since. This fact alone should make any intelligent person to question the theses of many such high quality western video essays about Turkey. Should a country not have the right to intervene if a militant group who actively tries to divide her territories carve out a corridor for itself for safe retreat, resupply, training etc. right below the territories it wants for itself? Would you not want to be able to do that if it were your country?

[@Yeks58]

Türkiye is most powerful and most beautiful gavurment in this world ..

[@TerenceClark]

RLL's episodes almost always seem to have an "and then they found oil/gas" moment. 😁

[@MZYY]

His videos used to be so good. Until he started making political driven videos recently. It's obvious he is gonna push a bias and anger some people. Ugh.

[@TerenceClark]

@@MZYY I didn't really see much of a change. Tbh honest this sounds a little "I liked comics before they went woke" where it's basically always been a component of his videos and he just hit a personal trip wire issue of yours.

[@MZYY]

@@TerenceClark Well I just think he also takes a very bias stance towards the Ukraine conflict videos and towards Russia.

[@sshender3773]

Yeah. Except in this case, unlike his atrociously bad video on the reasons for the Russian invasion, it's pertinent to the larger story. I still feature his Ukraine invasion video with its oil/gas/minerals narrative in my top 3 "why Russia invaded" videos to avoid. You would literally be better off listening to Peter Zeihan's or Shirvan's (Caspian Report) nonsense about national security, strategic depth and all the other factual, but utterly irrelevant claptrap.

[@adamblack267]

​@@sshender3773I think you'll find the geopolitical situation over oil and gas reserves is one of the main reasons for Russian aggression. Same goes for the US's foreign policy.

[@robertp457]

Turkey is on the side of Turkey, only.

[@bodemiller1]

Exactly. As a Turkish nationalist I always support a balance policy between the west and the east. Türkiye’s been way pro-eastern for the past century.

[@Larrymh07]

What a drag. Turkey was a steadfast ally all thru the Cold war. They fought especially bravely and sacrificed much during the Korean War.

[@skp8748]

And they're fighting the Russians via proxy in multiple countries to this day

[@Apistoleon]

USA, UK, France can do whatever they want and whenever they want without any slightest regard for the supposed Nato alies with their strong narcissism. When Türkiye looks for its interests independently, then Türkiye is NOT pro-Western!!! Because being pro Western equals to being an obedient puppet of these 3 supposed Nato allies!!!

[@yldrmbrs]

Why would they tell these? Instead of spreading hate against Turkey.

[@NationalistTurk.-nq1sb]

Yeah. Only hate Turkiye because Turkiye strong and important location .

[@mariox204]

And? The soviet were a great ally of the allies during WWII before the cold war began time and policy changes

[@koffergriff4759]

Türkiye’s Motto ‘the World is Bigger than Five’ is the Biggest-Ever Rise against Global Injustice

[@XY-uc1tw]

25:15 Wrong. Just check islands between UK and France...

[@christ.4658]

That's only because the UK and France have a bilateral agreement for the status quo of these islands. Not the same thing at all as the Greece - Turkey situation

[@omerdemirhan9555]

​@@christ.4658according to the Treaty of Lausanne, which is between Greece and Turkey, the territorial waters of the islands are 3 miles.

[@soundwave2481]

@@christ.4658 and that is exactly what Turkey has been proposing for years. Bilateral deal that satisfies both sides. It 100 percent applies to this situation, furthermore unlike UK and France, Turkey is not a signatory to UNCLOS so it doesn't bind it all the more reason for a special agreement between 2 countries. No country in the world will allow a small rock that has 600 people on it to disrupt the rights of millions living on a whole coast of a mainland. UNCLOS also states bilateral agreements may be necessary to solve special cases and it also states islands can't interfiere with the rights of a mainland if 2 contest eachother so this binds Greece and unlike its own claims Greece is NOT an island nation like UK it is directly connected to a mainland. They are trying to use this to increase their little islands' EEZs because island nations are treated differently than regular islands.

[@Socrates21stCentury]

Amazing, nicely done, thank you !!!

[@clubbinraver]

Ooh Socrat... Tell me what is amazing and what is nicely done please...

[@Socrates21stCentury]

@@clubbinraver The breakdown of the history in general is fascinating, it explains a lot about how Turkey views the world, and why they seem to react to situations differently than what we (The West) expect them to ... Gz.

[@mi1400]

This vlog has MANY FLAWS!!! 1. vlogger doesn't know Turkey is already making an alternate canal.. it will negotiate traffic tariffs through it n will artificially slow/restrict trafic through existing draconian pacts infested canal 2. Cyprus joining EU will/should mean EU is capturing Cyprus hence it will also mean that Turkey is not violating EU but like NATO is capturing Cyprus taking help from Turkey 3. @25:25 u ur knowledge is flawed as this vlog is flawed at many instances.... go and study 1965 UK median-line-distance-agreement to divide north sea between it, norway, denmark, netherlands and germany 4. regarding Israel, Cyprus, Greece gas pipeline ... well business is business as per above said UK's own law, so Libya and Turkey has right on those waters. 5. Over Greece calling France to fight along side .. in same way Libya could join Turkey 6. If Syria can loose 25% of landmass to W.Kurd or Syrian.Kurds then i think Syria could go the same path which Cyprus took and tried alliance with Greece... Whole Syria might end up what US calls "freedom"-ed by Turkey u can name "very-far-eastern-cyprus" Cheers from Pakistan!

[@mirzashakil6122]

Make a vedio on how France killed so many people in Africa... IN their war of independence..

[@kevinb2469]

Your whataboutism does not alter Ergodan's actions.

[@Absolutemenace_]

2:25 That’s called neutrality.

[@Empirehog]

It would be nice if we all just saw each other as humans and worked together rather than fighting each other all of the time...

[@mononlabe1]

This is not human nature.

[@miltos269]

Yeah , fuck that. I hold no ill will towards the Turkish people , but give the Turkish government an inch and I'll be suiting up for war at 19 without having lived a life . Turkish leadership modernizing its economic activity requires that they own all Aegean islands.

[@andrewboyle4488]

Thank you RealLifeLore!! Your information is so very helpful in helping understand the conflicts of the modern world. Your information in each of your series is SO helpful in understand the history, reasons for conflicts, and modern day concerns facing the world. For example, I never knew that Turkey and Greece loathed each other so deeply. LOVE your information, will consider a Nebulus subscription. Please keep sending this amazing content!

[@Karakulak1071]

If you believe that crap I will sell you an oceanfront property in Kansas

[@canoaslan1011]

Please make sure you doint get your "Facts" from KZbin videos only, Specially this one. I enjoy and agree with mist of this channels Videos, This one how ever, its very cear, it has alterier motives, and is clearly been made to order by who knows, It has hardly any facts. and its made to mis inform and cause a devide. you dont have to be Turkish to see this. The Sad part is your comment proves me rght, you watched this video, and was able to take how much these 2 countries Hate eachother, which you never had these thoughts untill this video. The makers should feel ashamed.

[@webexia]

​@@Karakulak1071Better eat a kebab, little islamofascist..

[@JN-wr9he]

Are you actually being sarcastic?

[@JuanGranados-y1u]

ReaLifeLore keeps on changing the title of the video lol, at first it was called "NATO has a turkish problem" and i guess the higher ups told them to change it

[@collahan9618]

In some parts of the video, the speaker forgets Turkiye is a completely secular country despite Erdoğan's existence. Always bear in mind that every story has two sides.

[@Da__goat]

Yeah, no. It may ‘claim’ to be secular. But it doesn’t behave that way at all. And it continues to violate the principles that the prophet set forth when dealing with the dhimmi, like not converting their churches and temples but Turkey has. In practice, if you aren’t a follower of Islam in Turkey you aren’t Turkish. And the government supports this ideology and has even structured itself around this policy. Seethe and cope

[@Darkmagic19984]

@@Da__goatThis is actually true. As an ethnic Turk who is a Christian I am constantly told by radicalized Muslims that i am not a real Turk and i must be Greek or Armenian which is not true. This is what the government is trying to do, radicalise the people and make them split into groups so they can control us easier.

[@moutsatsosa]

@@Da__goat That's what basically a Turk is.Turks are Asian people with asian DNA.Modern day Turks are natives that are Muslims.This by it self will always be a problem of existential threat withing the community and this is also the reason nationalism is fueled by everyone in power.That also the reason for the genocides or the ethnic and religious cleansing that been going on the past 200 years.

[@Andrew-w2q2m]

The greeks existed in those lands before a single turk walked on them.​@@moutsatsosa

[@normandu5971]

Don't look at things from just one perspective; sometimes you need to consider Turkey's point of view. -Terrorist groups that Russia and the West support are against Turkey. -Greece is trying to expand its island's territorial waters from 6 to 12 miles. -In Libya, Turkey supports the government, not the rebels. -Turkey wants to buy an air defense system (Patriot), but the US doesn't want to sell it. Do you think Turkey is going to sit and do nothing? From Turkey's perspective, I think NATO is a two-faced organization.

[@captainvanisher988]

False false and false and correct. Your first claim is untrue since RPK was never supported by Russia or the West. Your second claim is incorrect since UNCLOS are set to 12nm for islands as well. Only Turkey has refused to accept those laws amongst every country on earth with sea territory that has and abides by them. Your third claim is false because neither of those governments were "rebels". Both had claims to the government and both are equally useless. Although by now most countries only recognize the House of Representatives as the official government of Libya.

[@Harbin_07]

​​@@captainvanisher988 The first öne is false. You are only talking about PKK perspective. FETÖ exists.FETÖ is literally centered in USA, and they have been constantly terrorizing us since their existence. And since it was formed, America has ben supporting it with loads of money, and there are records of Fetullah Gülen, the person who formed that genocidal organization, being supported by FBI, CIA, and basically every single "protective" organization that was supposed to protect (!) the USA from both internal and external threats, but... Why are they there helping a massacre? And the man, I hate to mention his name, has been living in Pennsylvania for decades peacefully, while killing hundreds of thousands in Middle East and Turkiye, and using the name of Allah for his dirty and genocidal operations. He is the black of the eye of Islam, and FETÖ is doing the same thing as PKK, using the name of Islam and Allah to terrorize. How pathetic. However, yeah you are right about Russia. Russians werent involved with the terrorization.

[@HD-fp7mp]

@@captainvanisher988 no you are a Greekist and do to follow the rules America has recruited terrorist into our borders supported terrorists in Libya and did the same in Russia We have had martyrs for years , what nonsense are you talking about

[@Johnny-qu9op]

Loved it watched it twice great doc format.

[@TombaFanatic]

Old title wasn't clickbaity enough

[@R6-Triaxa]

old title was horrible how turkey is natos biggest threat like we know that not true one bit

[@yungsteaksauceakalilwasher6571]

​​@@R6-Triaxaare you implying that this title is better somehow?

[@Rasterizing]

Turkey looks after itself. That said, it won't step out of line - whilst that wound be a problem, it's not in their interest to do so.

[@mehmetkaanyildiz18]

99% Animation Skills 1& Knowledge of What Actually happening around Turkey

[@hamlet557]

If someone didn't know, comments from Turks here prove that they are born and raised to hate the west and become warmonger savages.

[@joyceperez5505]

EXCELLENT VIDEO... I WONDERED ABOUT THESE ISSUES...GREAT JOB !!! WELL DONE!!!

[@kingwing3203]

NATO is the terrorist who started the war

[@canoaslan1011]

Please make sure you doint get your "Facts" from KZbin videos, Specially this one. I enjoy and agree with mist of this channels Videos, This one how ever, its very cear, it has alterier motives, and is clearly been made to order by who knows, It has hardly any facts. and its made to mis inform and cause a devide. you dont have to be Turkish to see this.

[@AllofJamesSorensen]

if you think about it, turkey trying to influence other countries while still being neutral has slowly made it one of the world's most powerful countries.

[@StiffyLongJohn]

I didn't know genocide was "staying neutral"

[@turkcanatilir3943]

@@StiffyLongJohn What genocide ? We did not commit any genocide. We just did protect our homeland. What did you expect ? Should we accept this situation and remain silent while many western states have come together to bury the Turks in history? Do not be silly.

[@kenanisr6183]

@@StiffyLongJohnOsmanlı devleti yaklaşık 600 yıl hüküm sürdü. Bu zaman içinde hiç bir ırk’a soykırım yapmamıştır. Aksine İspanya’dan ölümden kaçan yahudilere kucak açmıştır!!! Tarihi iyi araştır “cahil”!!!

[@canerc6668]

@@StiffyLongJohn Turkiye has never be a part of such a thing, mate. Based on which historical sources do you claim that? If you take today's politicians crawling for votes as your "historical source", you will end up being deceived. As a fact that, I cannot remember when the last time was I heard the truth from a politician.

[@baltai3123]

⁠@@StiffyLongJohn Firstly your reply not related with comment. This guy is talking about Turkey’s policies. And secondly Türkiye will not accept a genocide it did not commit. Let historians reveal this incident, not politicians. We have already made an offer to Armenia to open historical resources and have a committee of historians examine the events. The country that rejected was Armenia. why? Because then he will lose his own claim and victimization. Currently, Armenia is pursuing a policy of normalization with its neighbors, and this is what should happen.

[@icenarsin5283]

I have always enjoyed your work and the general gist of your video and argument about Erdogan is true... But so many factual mistakes it’s hard to list them all. I have not seen this channel deliver such sloppy work before. - Mentioning the Armenian genocide, as if it happened after 1923 as part of the new republic's Turkification campaign. Don’t get me wrong - the post 1923 Turkification process was horrible. But don't obfuscate what happened under the Ottomans with what happened under the Republic. - The map showing the independent Armenian state envisioned after Serves with a parenthesis of (USSR) underneath is inane beyond belief. The Armenians certainly didn’t espouse at the time to being part of the Soviet Union. That happened by force/happenstance later. - In the treaty of Sevres, Kurdistan was discussed. But no sovereign Kurdistan with the borders you show was ever agreed to. The area was designated as part of France’s zone of control. - I am not going to defend Erdogan as a fair arbitrator of international treaties. But you seem to have no idea about the rules governing the straights of the Dardanelles and Bosphorus under the Montreux treaty. Ships registered in the Black Sea have rights of passage that don’t apply to US warships. Please study before you make a video. - You mention Turkish intervention in Libya as being against allies France, Greece and Cyprus. Somehow you fail to mention that the side Turkey was defending was supported by the US, the EU, and the UN. Not to mention that Haftar is supported by Russia. Minor omission. - Erdogan’s threats against Greece, as despicable as they are, are meant for domestic consumption. - Turkish occupation of Northern Cyprus far predates Cyprus joining the EU. Please also mention that the UN sponsored Koffi Annan plan was approved by the Turkish Cypriots but rejected by the Greek Cypriots. - Please mention that the USA also does not recognize United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) - The US enforced No-fly zone (NFZ) protecting the Kurds of Northern Iraq was based in Turkish airbases. Ooops… Forgot to mention. - So many pronunciation errors… Chios is pronounced “kios” . - Ceyhan is pronounced “jey-han” not say-han… - The war in Iraq did not start in 2013… You are off by a decade. - I also detest the Muslim Brotherhood, but claiming they want to recreate the Caliphate is quite an overstatement. Obfuscating them with ISIS is not productive. - The primary fear of the Saudis regarding the Muslim Brotherhood has almost nothing to do with the Suez Canal. They are worried about, non-monarchist, non-hereditary Islamist regimes as an alternate for their own regime. (I am no fan of any type of Islamist regime… but let’s keep our facts straight).

[@talhademirkesen3241]

thanks. i consider myself uncultured but even i called bullshit 3 minutes into the video.

[@sergenturker8888]

Ermeni soykırımı diye bir şey yoktur. Ermeniler tarafından yakılan Türk köylerinin çocuklarından bahsedin, biraz cahiller.

[@mustiakyol9270]

Before WW1, some Armenian separatists were attacking the villages in North Eastern Turkey. There are lots of proof of this after they started digging the massive graves. The Ottoman Army decided to start a campaign against them. The army decided to move the Armenian populations and also some Turks from the future war zone. They forced the population to South West of Turkey, The trip was not easy. Some Armenians may have gotten killed and robbed by local Turks and Kurds during the trip. There were no genocide against the Armenians. IF TURKS WANTED TO KILL ALL THE ARMENIANS AND CHRISTIANS IN OTTOMAN LAND, THEY HAD ALMOST 1000 YEARS TO DO IT. TURKS TOOK EASTERN ANATOILIA IN 1071 FROM EASTERN ROMAN EMPIRE. The Turks does not have something like this in their character. Let us be fare.

[@nasthuner]

no need to discuss about Armenian lies. According to 1914 Official Census Values there are 1.1 million Armenians live in Ottoman Empire, and video claims that 1.5 million Armenians killed. lol

[@Jokerlevin]

Muslim Brotherhood wasn't to establish a Caliphate under sharia law. Their slogan is literally "Islam is the solution".

[@ege821]

As a turkish, when ı saw the title, ı said wtf is going on lol 😂

[@basedblackbeard4456]

RealLifeLore try not to answer one question in an hr long video challenge: impossible

[@hoangkimviet8545]

Turkey: "Can I join you?" European Union: "No!"

[@ararune3734]

They're not Europeans.

[@uranuuss]

@@ararune3734 we are both european and asian cope westerner 😁

[@shingosshojiopoulos6608]

Except turkey was the one that didn't want to join

[@JoelDubey]

Would you let them join? Don't they seem like a country that does not embrace working together for a common cause.?

[@なまはぜ]

@@shingosshojiopoulos6608 This. An offer was extended when Greece was being admitted, the Turkish government at the time refused.

[@ElkhanDogTrainer]

So basically NATO can do anything they want against Turkey, but Turkey is the problem? All NATO allies accepted Armenian “genocide”, and Armenia is Russia ally, so Turkey is the problem here?

[@kerimthedream1]

I have to point that you've changed the title of the video a while after posting and chose something contreversial for views. Class act.

[@Fantabiscuit]

Meh. Turkey talks worse. Look in the mirror

[@Ruxxan]

Nah i think changing the title is just some algorithm trick

[@azericoltrane]

@@Fantabiscuit I didn't know Turkey was a person. Smartest greek-bot

[@bearowen5480]

American here....From personal experience based upon fairly extensive visits to the Turkish Republic in the '80s and '90s I have issues with some of the assertions or historical opinions I heard on this episode. Having said that, I always had great respect for Turkey before the Erdogan Islamic parties coalition took power. I am a great admirer of Kemal Ataturk for the cultural and political miracles that he and his brilliant coterie of "Young Turks performed in the wake of WWI. Phoenix-like, they transformed the shattered remnants of the decaying Ottoman Empire into a greatly Europeanized country, sympathetic to Western values and technology. They dismantled the Medieval Ottoman caliphate from Turkish society, and introduced sweeping reforms of everything from introducing republican democratic government, universal suffrage for women, and free public education, to the Romanization of the written Turkish language and mechanizing agriculture, and performed these Heraculean tasks virtually overnight! By Western standards, Ataturk's Turkey lagged behind Western European economies moving forward from the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923, but the country was making successive strides to catch up before Erdogan began taking steps, for cynical political reasons, to destroy the gains Turkey had made as a NATO partner and even on the verge of joining the EU. There is blame on both sides for Turkey's failure to gain EU membership, but Erdogan's steps to lead Turkey back to the Dark Ages of religious extremism, extinguishing human rights, purging the military, gutting the Constitution, and adopting Sharia-like legal tyrrany no doubt played a major role. I too was deeply skeptical of the cited figures about average per capita incomes in the Marmara region of $72,000. When people ask me, based upon my travels throughout Aegean and Anatolian Turkey, what the country is like, for many years my most (admittedly) flippant response has been that it is like an Islamic version of Mexico! However useful that comparison may or may not be, Turkey has changed dramatically if not catastrophically under Erdogan's ill conceived regime. I wish in my heart of hearts that this were not the case, but it has become self evident. The Turkish people, in my experience, are some of the warmest and most hospitable on earth. Traveling in Turkey, even deeply into its fascinating rural interior was always a pleasant if not joyful experience for a foreigner like me. Today, I would sadly not choose to visit Turkey as a tourist anymore. The changes are not in Turkey's best interests, and sad for me to see as a former Turkophile

[@abdullahiabdisalan1170]

Lol there a huge gap of over 70 years between erdogan and attaturk

[@bearowen5480]

@@abdullahiabdisalan1170 Yes, and for Turkey it marks the ignominious end of this wonderful culture and its improbably courageous political experiment in the midst of a Muslim tide rolling In the opposite (wrong) direction. God remember and bless the efforts of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk to save and preserve the greatness of the Turkish Republic and its beautiful people! Iyek shamlar!

[@mimigottfried8604]

Couldn't have said it better as a Turk.

[@HesFoset]

Türkiye perspective: Hello friend America (Russia looks at Turkey with anger) Hello friend Russia (America looks at Turkey with anger) Hello friends (Russia and America look at each other angrily) I understand that people say Turkey is the biggest internal problem, but unfortunately, if we do not make a balance policy, the country may fall apart.

[@hamlet557]

I'd love to see how playing america against russia will turn out.

[@gurgen1]

Such a great and informative video

[@chesi_7_0_79]

I always pick the Ottoman empire side in Battlefield 1 😂😂

[@kalepox1035]

Either Republic of Turkey nor Turkish Grand National Assembly wasn’t present between 1915-1918 You’re hurting your credibility

[@teacher_fher]

If this channel provided sources it would be PERFECT.

[@divinejusticefeelsgood]

His arse

[@Levo_D_Angelo]

He cant, because most of them what he says is a lie. For example Turkiyes exclusive economic sea zone, he says Turkiye is only country in the world with this intepretation but this is a big, A BIG BIG LIE ! He is biased as hell, this video belongs forbidden, its propaganda material.

[@nosmokejazwinski6297]

If this channel provided sources, this video wouldn’t exist due to lack of them. Low level propaganda

[@user-em1uu8oz9j]

They cant bcs so much bs from his arse

[@divinejusticefeelsgood]

Not only resources bro. He left out a lot important details conveniently that would explain why certain things were happening

[@jjgreek1]

I’ve met several Turkish Cypriots who have fled to the south and gotten Republic of Cyprus passports which allows them to travel anywhere in Europe. They had to prove they were real Cypriots and not illegal migrants to the island

[@TRPilot06YT]

Imagine calling Erdo a ''Turkish nationalist'' lmao

[@ibrahimk.3227]

He banned Arabic labels the other day? He is also very close with the nationalist party.😂 you clearly don’t know Erdogan

[@maquacr7014]

He is a nationalist.

[@maquacr7014]

​@@hellotheretherealOk. And?

[@ibrahimk.3227]

@@hellotherethereal I know, but an Islamist leader would never do that? He causes so much sins and says he is the leader of the Islamic world. Nothing but propaganda. The AKP is a party that doesn’t care about anything but to keep power in their hands. They are neither Islamists, Nationalists, or any form of ideology. They are a right wing dictatorial party who simple want to turn Turkey into a one-party state.

[@TRPilot06YT]

@@maquacr7014 cope

[@oguzhangungordu100]

You only say results not reasons😢

[@greektraditionalmusicchann5644]

All of these comments here by Turks saying, ''Greek islands are very near to the Turkish coast, so we should take them!'' tells you all there is to know about the so-called ''peaceful'' Turkish people.

[@emrecankarabacak]

I've been reading comments for a long time, didn't see a single comment in that vein. But it's true that is the only action left to Turkey in an event where the west tries to unilaterally force those maritime borders.

[@greektraditionalmusicchann5644]

@@emrecankarabacak Well you should read further, I've read 12 of them just in this video. Also, I'm glad that you show your true colours. Wanting to invade other people's lands, and kill the local population in order to expand your already enormous territory. And then you wonder why Greece is trying to defend its islands.

[@CooLBassThe]

As a Turkish soldier who has participated in NATO exercises and was part of the team responsible for verifying whether the Ukrainian army was compliant with NATO standards before Ukraine entered the war, I can say the following without any nationalistic sentiment: Within NATO, there are always two experienced armies ready for combat- the U.S. Army and the Turkish Army. If Turkey were to withdraw from NATO, the southern flank would collapse entirely, and you cannot imagine the dire consequences Europe would face in a potential wartime scenario. Instead of fostering friendly relations with Turkey, our Western allies perceive us as rivals and subject us to numerous embargoes. Their support for the terrorist organization we are constantly at war with adds insult to injury. I hope a major war does not break out; I do not wish for it. However, if tomorrow Russia were to engage in war with Europe, they would then realize the value of Turkey. Although, by that point, it might be too late to comprehend certain matters.

[@isken6593]

Inanmazlar kardeşim. Ben Fransa'da doğdum ve yaşıyorum, burada biz öbür arap ülkeler gibiyiz sanıyorlar, ordumuz yıllardır dağlarda savaşan experience'lari çok. Sadece teknolojiye bakıp onları asker edeceğini sanıyorlar. TSK Avrupalı ülkeleri birer birer alır dağıtır. Amerika bizi niye destekliyor diye anlamıyorlar, biz olmazsak Avrupa çoktan batmıştı. Size helal olsun aslanlar, ayağınıza Allah taş değdirme'sin, İnşallah bende bir gün katılmak isterim

[@nenasiek]

None of us belive that your gov would help, especially if u get a better deal from russia. Its a good thing we are rebuilding our armies cause I really dont trust your gov to send troops to scandinavia.

[@zeyneperturk4471]

What is USA doing in Syria?This is the main question.

[@NickStrife]

What Turkey is doing in Anatolia...

[@Nothing.T]

​@@NickStrifereally ? 😀

[@cuneytyapalak4248]

​@@NickStrifethe fuck europeans doing in america bro? We conquered it a thousand years ago, just get on with it

[@cago00]

​@@NickStrifeTurks were in Anatolia even before US existed.

[@Fahrecen]

​@@NickStrifeIts like what US doing in america

[@mynamethog1151]

Every commentator here is an expert on turkey apparently

[@tiktokmemes5889]

If Israel were in Turkey's position, there wouldn't be a single Kurdish people left :) but Kurdish people are living in peace at Turkey. You can't see that at the global media

[@panosgeorgedimitriou2290]

A kurd on the mountain at the south calls you to give you a hug😂😂😂

[@nikosppetrou2671]

Wtf, literally Turkey is killing hundreds if not kurds everyday

[@kurt.1453]

​@@panosgeorgedimitriou2290😂😂😂😂 aptalll

[@alwanalwan3461]

😂😂😂

[@serdar-ors]

@@panosgeorgedimitriou2290 One of kurd origin former president of Turkey, Turgut Özal give u a hug too :) Kurds and turks are mix in Turkey everywhere.

[@yakupkeser248]

Thanks to the media, people who do not know each other in the world can instantly talk to each other and exchange ideas. People cannot be deceived with lies like before.

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

People are more deceived now than they have ever been.

[@seraph3761]

@@Joe-Przybranowskias long as you don’t believe you’re being deceived what does it matter. Don’t worry about everyone else, only worry about you.

[@trite4654]

Explain that to the tens of millions of Turks who unironically believe that the Armenian genocide never happened, And that there's a grand conspiracy in the West to isolate them. Because it's easier than admitting that their government and history are their own fault

[@mariox204]

​@@seraph3761coz not believing you are bwing decieved and not being decieved is not the same thing?

[@seraph3761]

@@mariox204 nope, they’re not. If you already possess a belief, then you will see all other beliefs as deceptions. Who is to say the belief you possess is a deceptive one in the first place and hindering your ears from hearing the truth?

[@dzo3]

The best breakdown of one country i ever saw on KZbin. Keep doing it, great job!

[@flatcap957]

You know it’s almost as accurate as a wikipedia essay right?

[@th0master]

I think Erdogan and Turkey seem to forget they are a NATO ally…

[@erent.5101]

I think the exact opposite europe forget that we are their ally these are just counter reactions

[@seriesmovies4195]

I think NATO has forgotten that Turkey is their ally. What kind of alliance supports an organization linked to the PKK responsible for over 50.000 deaths since 1984. Great allies…

[@nowistime8070]

dude has a serious grudge

[@kudretgenecioglu4356]

Listening to this is like saying the European colonists countries treated the Africans native Indians Aborigines ect as friendly and helped build their countries built up their economies gave them resources etc ! The west has no morals or shame when it comes to telling the truth

[@extragoogleaccount6061]

Having no shame in telling the truth sounds like a good thing to me! If only more politicians were like that.

[@mharley3791]

Tbf, turkey was also a colonist and empire

[@FTC207]

@@mharley3791not colonist

[@kudretgenecioglu4356]

@@mharley3791 and which country did they rule that has lost its language religion and culture?

[@mharley3791]

@@kudretgenecioglu4356 ask the Kurds. Or the genocide against the Armenians. Or the balkans. Or most of the Arab world. The Turks were also an empire lol

[@S1lence_D]

That's why it's said "when nato does it its fine, but when someone else does it then oh no no nooooo...its a grave crime".

[@Alexander29854]

It would be worth the trouble to mention that the Greek advance to the Asia Minor ended 30 km from Ankara

[@swankyorc7366]

No one thinks about what American flags are doing in the Syrian desert :)

[@maxsportsman2416]

Thanks for calling out NATOs incredible hypocrisy

[@mirzashakil6122]

Make a vedio on how France colonialism of Africa in 2023..

[@berkrullah]

eagean islands being left to greece has nothing to do with lausanne 1923. they were left to italy after 1923. and italy left the islands to greece after ww2.

[@chahmeduzair]

This is amazing quality work.

[@braagvh8347]

I always saw this channel as fair and neutral but it changed with this video. You left out many details to make Turkey look very bad. For example, where you made it look like we were supporting an illegal organisation in Libya and did not go into detail, in fact all NATO agreed with Turkey except the Greeks and the French. You also described the Armenian genocide as if it was done by Ataturk after 1923 to cleanse Anatolia. Even map of Sevres is wrong. Greece did not follow the treaty of Sevres and invaded as far as Ankara burned all the Turkish villages when they retreat.

[@elnurnabiyev6820]

armenians have been occupying Karabakh for 30 years. There isn't even a video about it. There were massacres. There isn't even a single video about him. But there is a video showing Azerbaijan as an 'occupier'

[@haykmelikyan7796]

Maybe that's a reason for you to question the "history" they teach in your country?

[@elnurnabiyev6820]

@@haykmelikyan7796 Everyone always says that Karabakh is Azerbaijan's land When it comes to history, we already know that history cannot be erased or changed. Those who say that Karabakh is not Azerbaijan and those who think that the world is flat agree.

[@Absolutemenace_]

2:11 „wage war“ more like defend an integral part of the nation.

[@j.mtherandomguy8701]

Where did he mention that Turkey waged war against any one in that timeframe? Turkroach alert.

[@red_grapes2886]

Im sorry but have you seen the state of Syria? It’s not weird for a neighbouring country that is thousands of times more stable, secular and western-oriented to want some sort of solution for the millions of refugees that just cross the border and bring all sorts of problems with them. They always make their way into the big metropolitan areas which are located mostly along the coast of the Aegean and Mediterranean seas, the nations number 1 tourist destinations. The safe zones will at least allow the Turkish government to settle these people back on their native soil, whilst keeping them safe and providing humanitarian help and not just deporting them back into Syria and leaving them to die by the hands of whoever is still fighting there honestly the whole area south of the Turkish border is just a shitshow.

[@sheesh7719]

Aah look the only NATO country that tried to negotiate and mitigate things... Is being a problem?!

[@APerson4889-g5f]

The only NATO country using migrants as a bargaining chip to maintain its corrupt regime.

[@SofiaBulgaria-k5f]

It may have been said already, I cannot read through all the comments but... Bulgaria and Romania were always independent states and were never part of the USSR. In that sense, we were not "newly independent" states when the USSR collapsed. Well, we had been very close and even docile friends of the USSR, but in terms of national independence the fall of the USSR did not really affect us. And yes, I agree with the comment below about the per-capita GDP - the ridiculously high figure of $72,000 must have been PPP, as I know what incomes in this locality look like 😄

[@ysti6552]

The people who are Turks today are 90% ancient Christian inhabitants of Byzantium, who forcibly changed and became Turks. Read the American Ambassador's book (HORTON GEORGE -- the blight of asia)

[@fluxentv6497]

Honestly im starting to see turkeys point of view, like ww1, their deal was legit so similar to what happen to germany after the war >