Why Netbooks Failed - Modern Retrospective

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91Tech

91Tech

Күн бұрын

Netbooks failed for numerous reasons- Microsoft, the Intel Atom, Windows 7 Starter, and of course... iPad. Let's take a retrospective look at the rise and fall of the Netbook- from 2008 to 2012.
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0:00 - Promising Beginnings
5:07 - The Downfall
10:03 - The Legacy
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@91Tech
@91Tech 3 жыл бұрын
Reminder that with Windows Starter Edition you couldn't change your wallpaper. Has there ever been a more arbitrary limitation in any software than that? The low powered Atom processors and iPad/tablets didn't help Netbooks, but it was clear Microsoft never took them seriously.
@user-bn8pg7os8d
@user-bn8pg7os8d 3 жыл бұрын
cant change /customize win 10 if you dont activate windows , so yea thats still a thing
@Jferrari427
@Jferrari427 3 жыл бұрын
They were cheap and were bogged down really quickly with anything more than web browsing. The real purpose wasn’t really clear which lead to their eventual demise. Nostalgic nonetheless.
@91Tech
@91Tech 3 жыл бұрын
@billy ruiz bit different though because when you buy a laptop or pre-built PC it'll be activated. With Windows Starter you were buying a netbook, and were basically punished for not buying something better. Also it’s now used to try to guilt you into actually buying Windows which is probably fair.
@agusorellana5551
@agusorellana5551 3 жыл бұрын
At around 2012 I was given my mum's laptop which was a packard-bell easynote with black shiny plastic, it was a full size laptop but it had an awful single core celeron and I barely remember the rest, however it had windows 7 starter and it heated up like crazy. Why 7 starter? no idea at all, but packard-bell was a cheap brand so if it had to be cheap, it had to be completely garbaged out.
@cherrychuuu
@cherrychuuu 3 жыл бұрын
I still have mine, it’s hardly usable, it’s so slow. The wallpaper thing... we don’t talk about that.
@epifritaxey4376
@epifritaxey4376 3 жыл бұрын
I still call Chromebooks "Netbooks" They really are just netbooks but with an operating system the netbook can actually handle
@coolbean9880
@coolbean9880 3 жыл бұрын
in conclusion, linux solves everything oh also people are more driven by brand recognition than actually knowing what theyre buying
@talentlessartist7929
@talentlessartist7929 2 жыл бұрын
Linux? Isnt it
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
@@coolbean9880 Well I mean yeah. Just look at Apple (and granted apple products aren't "bad", but easily their success comes from the brand recognition and "if you don't have an iPhone you're poor"). Not to mention Google has pioneered the "non thinking" internet age by controlling search results, ads, and general stimuli exposure. Then there's the rest of the internet and big companies making it worse. Not to mention the education curriculum that's focused on just passing kids and getting them out of school (usually meaning all most people learn anymore is how to follow directions). Brand recognition is the name of a very fixed game right now.
@youtubeshadowbannedme
@youtubeshadowbannedme 2 жыл бұрын
At least a netbook lets you install stuff wherever you want
@TheTaquitoProject
@TheTaquitoProject 2 жыл бұрын
@@vullord666 about schools, unfortunately that depends on your teachers. I was lucky enough that almost all of my teachers placed a heavy emphasis on teaching critical thinking, and, in my science classes, experimentally testing the concepts we were learning (including math classes, arguably my best teacher, assigned proofs/fewer but longer form problems for homework as well as some shorter practice). Of course, the one who didn’t (second semester of trig lmao) was awful, and I had to essentially give myself extra homework to actually learn the material.
@amirulgaminghd3278
@amirulgaminghd3278 3 жыл бұрын
netbook has a special place in my heart...it taught me alot about computer and overclocking just to get a playable fps on minecraft
@wojciechmuras553
@wojciechmuras553 3 жыл бұрын
"Playable" as in the number of likes under this comment? Been there ;)
@FeverDev64
@FeverDev64 3 жыл бұрын
Same except the overclocking part .man those gmas thernal throttled to 166mhx
@HyenaFox
@HyenaFox 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, I remember this. I had a netbook from about when I was 7 to when I was like 10, and playing Minecraft on one of those sure was an experience. I learned overclocking basics and more simply by frantically trying every possible trick I could to improve my framerate, I lowered every setting and resolution and overclocked the CPU and allocated more RAM and did all of it and still only got like 35 FPS at the best of times, but I kept playing because I didn't know any better lol. Now I play Minecraft at 60+ FPS at 1080p with shaders on a desktop that I built myself, and I think I have this little netbook thing to thank for my love of tech and stuff. If I was lucky that day, my mom would be off work and I'd be able to play with my mom's work laptop which was a little bit more powerful (at least for gaming) than my netbook. Then I could manage 45-50 FPS.
@FeverDev64
@FeverDev64 3 жыл бұрын
@@HyenaFox same bro i had my old dads laptop which could play at better frames
@davidmussin6872
@davidmussin6872 3 жыл бұрын
@@HyenaFox damn some people live the same lives
@lordlucifer5630
@lordlucifer5630 3 жыл бұрын
I was forced to learn how to optimize Windows because of this thing, and that was an amazing learning experience, like a wise man once said "No Pain, No Gain"
@moonshinepz
@moonshinepz 3 жыл бұрын
I have one running windows 10 here, you are spot on, chuck out all the bloat and optimize and you get very worthwhile gains.
@mthf5839
@mthf5839 3 жыл бұрын
'optimize windows'? very weird way to misspell 'install linux'.
@youtubeshadowbannedme
@youtubeshadowbannedme 2 жыл бұрын
I was forced to sort of optimise my current gaming laptop because Acer has bad quality control; I regret shopping late during Christmas in 2019 and not going for HP or ASUS when theirs still haven't sold out
@lunatikantigenztiktokhumor910
@lunatikantigenztiktokhumor910 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know where your profile pic from?
@Blox117
@Blox117 10 ай бұрын
@@mthf5839 you forgot to shave your neckbeard and tip your fedora
@reaper84
@reaper84 3 жыл бұрын
I remember writing my Thesis on a netbook. Was really great, light and portable (for 2008 standards anyway). Kinda miss them.
@azerua99
@azerua99 2 жыл бұрын
Did the same
@eduardochavacano
@eduardochavacano 2 жыл бұрын
If its good enough to complete a thesis it cant be bad.
@LuLeBe
@LuLeBe 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I feel like the 2015 Macbook could have been the successor. If it cost 599 and had a working keyboard.
@zidaantumbi8378
@zidaantumbi8378 3 жыл бұрын
Netbooks exist 2019 Schools - "I'll take your entire stock!"
@geekygirl2596
@geekygirl2596 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if its a net book, but my school bought like 34 12 in think pad laptops. I fell in love with ThinkPad then. I still have a refurbished one from 2011.
@raydai9541
@raydai9541 3 жыл бұрын
You mean crappy chrome books?
@vastohs
@vastohs 3 жыл бұрын
@@geekygirl2596 ThinkPads are great laptops to be honest
@Jus-Tin
@Jus-Tin 3 жыл бұрын
@@vastohs it depends on which ones I worked in a school as IT support before and those thinkpads without SSDs are awfully slow at everything.
@vastohs
@vastohs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jus-Tin my schools did have an SSD
@breakcoregirlxd
@breakcoregirlxd 3 жыл бұрын
a normal laptop would have come with a crappy version of word
@onion6667
@onion6667 3 жыл бұрын
just download libre office, it will work lol.
@onion6667
@onion6667 3 жыл бұрын
@@farrelwaso5044 true that works too
@jchubyt
@jchubyt 3 жыл бұрын
Google Docs?
@irenejoohyun7509
@irenejoohyun7509 3 жыл бұрын
google docs all the way
@NvanRoblox
@NvanRoblox 3 жыл бұрын
Google docs is free and better in every way
@conchobar
@conchobar 3 жыл бұрын
Netbooks were designed for web browsing. Anything beyond that was just gravy. They weren't even advertised as laptop replacements. "Phablets" and tablets replaced them.
@blackboxbs8642
@blackboxbs8642 2 жыл бұрын
@VeniVidiViral you are dumb, i have 2gb ram netbook and it can run any webpage also with multiple tabs, even discord slack etc. You understimate these things like they are some 90s machines.
@sagichdirdochnicht4653
@sagichdirdochnicht4653 2 жыл бұрын
And the usual Nonsense: simple Office Crap, a few Emails, some Music and maybe a Video every now and then. All of those not very demanding tasks run fine enough on those overclocked Toasters. But yeah, Tablets kinda destroyed the Market. They can handle anything a Netbook could do, but faster, better and with a whole lot more tasks they can handle, that Netbooks would have failed. All of this in an almost Idiot Proof format - my mom was able to use a Tablet, and she struggles with absolutely anything tech related. Atlough there is still a Market for extremely small formfactor Laptops, with similar sizes to Netbooks. However, they are usually capable Machines and cost a fortune, so they are pretty damn niche and don't serve the Product Category, that Netbooks used to fill in. Also, there are Chromebooks now. Specs are usually pretty damn underwhelming, but they are cheap and run absolutely fine, because no copy of Windows is running on there.
@WayneKeen
@WayneKeen 2 жыл бұрын
@@sagichdirdochnicht4653 The one thing that my Netbook could do (moderately well in fact) that tablets would not let me do was writing technical code - mostly Python, some C++ directly on the machine. Heck, it ran MinGW and Cygwin pretty darn well, enabling a lot of work devlopment and analysis tasks that I could not do on a tablet, much to my frustration. I wasn't until some of the 2 in 1's came out that allowed me to do that sort of thing on a "tablet" type of platform. I know all of the above makes me a 5 sigma case in terms of normal use, so I will go back and sit in my corner case.... -)
@conchobar
@conchobar 2 жыл бұрын
@VeniVidiViral 4k? Netbooks peaked before 1080p streaming video was available. Heck Netflix was still a video rental service.
@UNSCPILOT
@UNSCPILOT 2 жыл бұрын
And now Chromebooks too, except they're locked to a set operating system and heaps of them have already lost all software support. Better to spend a little more for a real laptop, maybe load it with Linux if you loath Windows. I have a Cheap (less that 500 dollars) 17inch HP laptop with a Ryzen 2300u with Vega 6 graphics, that I was able to upgrade with 16 gigs of RAM and add a 1TB M.2 drive, I've installed Garuda Linux on it and it's a genuinely fun device to use that even still has a Disk drive so I can RIP CDs and DVDs to it or replace it with a Blueray drive since video streaming is hella unreliable on my Canadian internet
@qdllc
@qdllc 3 жыл бұрын
I loved mine. It packed easy on a motorcycle and was cost effective storage for backing up photos from my camera. At the time, the cost to have a portable HDD to backup media on the road would cost about as much and do less.
@pocketpinguin
@pocketpinguin 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a Eee Pc and it wash kinda trash but I was pretty young and the thing could play KZbin videos and had a fun gardening game...
@ilikerollercoasters4757
@ilikerollercoasters4757 3 жыл бұрын
Dude the eee pc was cool
@ThePianist51
@ThePianist51 3 жыл бұрын
The Lamborghini edition with Nvidia Ion 2 was lit ;-)
@bobtcm2240
@bobtcm2240 3 жыл бұрын
Nicefisher yes and then use one grit to break the clones afterwards
@Wizza2418
@Wizza2418 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone made the eeepeecee reference.
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 жыл бұрын
Watching and typing on my eee pc 1001x with xp ;)
@tylersmith3139
@tylersmith3139 3 жыл бұрын
Chromebooks have essentially succeeded where netbooks failed.
@sugampathak3854
@sugampathak3854 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but they still need to become as cheap as the netbooks,or at least more cheaper IN EVERY DAMN COUNTRY.
@filmaxx3
@filmaxx3 3 жыл бұрын
In my country they costs the same as an normal laptop.
@ipodtouch470
@ipodtouch470 3 жыл бұрын
Can't you get one for like 200? Only problem is I assume they are trash, the specs don't look too good...
@Dont.do.art.
@Dont.do.art. 3 жыл бұрын
But they suck
@Beyondesp
@Beyondesp 3 жыл бұрын
I have a chromebook that i spent 300 bucks on a couple years ago that serves its purpose. It even had a decent chip in it that i could setup a linux partition and android apps. And now its a great little laptop to let my son use with a child family account.
@smileyeagle1021
@smileyeagle1021 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked netbooks, they were a product both ahead of and behind the times. They were trying to solve the problems that tablets solve before tablets were possible. Had they come out a few years sooner, they probably would have been a lot more successful.
@MephistoDerPudel
@MephistoDerPudel 3 жыл бұрын
Ouh, I remember the EeePC my dad bought just because he found it interesting. We really had no use for it initially, but ultimately, after we converted it to windows xp, we watched a lot of movies on it on school trips. Up to 10 people in front of this tiny little screen, because it was the only laptop anyone had.
@boris2223
@boris2223 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Intel needlessly delayed the industry transition to 64-bit by making their early Atom processors x86.
@Moskito844
@Moskito844 3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean, white fella
@campkira
@campkira 3 жыл бұрын
mircrosoft endless update ate up the harddrive.... they did it to surface that they know only had 32 gb.... the rest just junk....
@boris2223
@boris2223 3 жыл бұрын
@Unknown Nomad Yea the later ones were x64, but the early ones were x86-only, and there were a sizeable number of them shipped, during a time when 64-bit was otherwise cemented across the industry. Intel also pumped out a bunch of 32-bit tablet SoC's. This set the x64 cause back for years, thanks to Intel.
@jmugurr994
@jmugurr994 3 жыл бұрын
@@boris2223 yes I still have an atom based purple aspire one that was x86 only and it was horribly slow. I later got another aspire one but with AMD c-60 processor which was a much better experience compared to atom, still slow but better and x64 compatible. I recently installed win 10 x64 on it with ssd and it isn't bad.
@kofiosei-duah4951
@kofiosei-duah4951 3 жыл бұрын
Truth
@philm94
@philm94 3 жыл бұрын
Blaming MS for 'starter edition' is missing the point rather. The netbook started life as a low price machine designed for emerging markets and 3rd world classrooms. The first ones had a disproportionately large battery to last a whole school day, and some even had wind-up charging for markets with no electricity. They were all, as you said, Linux machines, designed to run well on basic hardware. The later ones (still early) had larger screens, and by then had atom processors. They were still sold typically with just Linux (Ubuntu or the custom-made netbuntu) to keep prices low and performance acceptable. Then, people started buying them in the west, and expected a mini-laptop. Sales started ramping up when Dell/Samsung released their versions. Then, returns started flying back in the door. People expected it to "be windows" and didn't understand why they can't run exe files, install word, etc. Starter edition came into being, because when retailers told them "oh you can buy windows for $120 if you don't like Linux" people complained they'd "never had to buy windows before, it was always free" and retailers had customers thinking they were being scammed. If you had the same laptop at two different prices, one Linux, one with windows, people bought the cheaper one anyway and then did all the above anyway, leading to huge piles of returns. Cue, the end of Linux laptops as standard and windows being put on them. Starter existed to stop a Home OEM license being required for each netbook, which would have added more significantly to the cost. You say it was bad, but you don't appreciate how bad consumers are at understanding what an OS is, or why their Ubuntu machine could do more for free. This is all just a way of saying popularity killed the netbook. As soon as mass market appeal happened, the lowest common denominator needed to be catered for, so we got starter. Tablets killed them off, because people could go back to forgetting what an OS is again, and just push buttons.
@tsubasa83_ch
@tsubasa83_ch 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Windows' brand recognition means that anything that isn't Windows (or made by Apple/Google) immediately becomes a strange, alien world. Netbooks' price points relied on Linux being cheap (not just literally being free, but with it being notoriously easy to run on lower-end systems), which Windows' ubiquity quickly killed. Going to what you said about productivity work, had things like Google Docs been more popular earlier, I'd predict netbooks would have at least survived in a better state until hybrids came along.
@fishyc43sar
@fishyc43sar 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of those persons who actually gets the thing. What's even funnier, is that you can manage Word to get working on a Ubuntu easily, and not on "Starter Edition". Btw, let me share a fact, one company in my country managed to get Win10 Pro with Atom/Pentium for a lower price point than the Win10 Pro Retail license itself, but ofc by 2018, much late to the world of netbooks.
@DocMalaspeme
@DocMalaspeme 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't have said it better. This video sounds more about saying MS is bad, than understanding what really happened.
@PeterGriffin-kb2hf
@PeterGriffin-kb2hf 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder why some people seem to spend half of their life in a cave and then when they come out tech ads are their only source of info.
@fharidvalencia2068
@fharidvalencia2068 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that my first pc was an acer netbook, I hated windows on it so began to search for solutions, a little learning curve and then finally installed Ubuntu on it and the experience was amazing, I can still feel the thrill of the smoothness and responsiveness
@danamahr3773
@danamahr3773 2 жыл бұрын
I know I am very late to the party. But as a on-budged student in Switzerland back in the day, the EEe PC from Asus had a special place in my heart. I wrote both my BA and MA theses on this device (and ocassionally played Diablo 2 on it). This small device singelhandedly helped me to get a education.
@LeDank
@LeDank 2 жыл бұрын
I had an Acer netbook and the build quality was really great actually. I installed Ubuntu on it and it ran awesome for the light programming I was doing. Ah those were the days.
@richardcutts196
@richardcutts196 3 жыл бұрын
They failed because of iPad, and android tablets, then the smartphone.
@callaco3176
@callaco3176 3 жыл бұрын
Reverse the order.
@whee6506
@whee6506 3 жыл бұрын
And 11’ MacBook Air which is unfortunately discontinued
@nic7227
@nic7227 3 жыл бұрын
TheComputerGamerGuy Those who bought netbooks couldn’t afford a MBA
@whee6506
@whee6506 3 жыл бұрын
@Nick yea but the MBA 11’ kept having a better cpu, more ram and a faster ssd and the price was almost the same throughout the years and its light and ultraportable just like the focus of netbooks
@whee6506
@whee6506 3 жыл бұрын
@Nick basically the MBA was one of the first ultrabooks introduced then other OEMs just copied apple around 2012 (bc of Windows 8 maybe) and forgot about netbooks
@SupaCLUCK
@SupaCLUCK 3 жыл бұрын
Windows 7 netbooks were basically another way of the "Vista Compatible" underpowered XP computers
@JackMcSomeone
@JackMcSomeone 3 жыл бұрын
try using windows 8 on a netbook
@insanitylol
@insanitylol 3 жыл бұрын
BedrockPlayer123 when your on the desktop yes when your on an app or game no
@jaseaquino
@jaseaquino 3 жыл бұрын
@BedrockPlayer123 Well, my old Toshiba NB510 can install Windows 10 but installing its Intel graphics driver that are made for Windows 7 can cause a BSOD every time I open Start menu, running Windows 10 UWP app or opening some other elements like Action center, Wi-Fi settings, etc.
@JohnSmith-xq1pz
@JohnSmith-xq1pz 3 жыл бұрын
He's not wrong. I have 7 starter Netbook
@bitelaserkhalif
@bitelaserkhalif 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, on paper it doesn't work out good I have BenQ Joybook u101 and it's using Windows XP
@NedTheUndead
@NedTheUndead 2 жыл бұрын
"We'll never see something like netbooks again" he said, after discussing Chromebooks, their direct replacement.
@VanBourner
@VanBourner 2 жыл бұрын
He probably meant it more as a proof of concept turned into mass consumer/marketing hysteria turned into almost oblivion in such a short span of time. I remember forst Eee coming out and the next year you've had everyone making them. They were ever present in every shop. Tablets did that too to be fair right after and are bow pushed away by large screen phones/phablets. Chromebooks were more of a sidestep really, they still hang around but have very limited use. Netbook with light/common linux distro liku Ubuntu (can't do that on tablet/chromebook) was actually quite capable. I still use one of them in my homelab as they are absolutely amazing to run debian and replace a need for rpis for me (and their ARM CPUs make them unable to run proper x86 stuff anyway). The only recent device that shook up the world of tech like netbooks but actually suceeded would be smartphone spearheaded by iphone at the very similar time. And IMO smarthphones were also very much responsible for killing netbooks. Most people had netbook to check mails, watch a movie and then maybe play a simple game. Smartphone let you do all that with better portability and battery life. Only thing you could not do is writing a thesis on it realistically.
@KoopaKid660
@KoopaKid660 2 жыл бұрын
@@VanBourner you can run linux on chrome os though.
@internetusernumber501
@internetusernumber501 3 жыл бұрын
seeing that wavy plastic brought back many, many frustrated memories. they were the bane of my existence back when we had them in the classrooms!
@Isaaaaaaac
@Isaaaaaaac 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my elementary school having some that we could use during indoor recess, it took half of recess just to boot up.
@ddproductionscanada
@ddproductionscanada 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this too, it just reminds me of how much money schools waste on "new tech" which is generally underpowered and cheap. My school had a cart of 30 of them, but only half of them even worked most of the time
@con1019
@con1019 3 жыл бұрын
@@ddproductionscanada like my school cheaping out on laptops by buying $100 chromebooks which break by dropping it once
@nwfyandex
@nwfyandex 3 жыл бұрын
@@con1019 Our school buys macbooks than always lag.
@samsunguser3148
@samsunguser3148 3 жыл бұрын
your elementary school is rich lol
@nwfyandex
@nwfyandex 3 жыл бұрын
@@samsunguser3148 the macbooks were bad tho, everything our teacher would try to play a video it would say "if video playback.... restart your device." The videos took like 20seconds to load. It is alright now they are getting lenovo notebooks rn
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 3 жыл бұрын
Why netbooks failed: underperforming cpu's that couldn’t keep up as Microsoft’s Windows software intentionally got more bloated every single year. From XP to Vista to 7. It's great to have a small thin and light portable KZbin and Microsoft word machine that you can easily take everywhere. Unfortunately, many netbooks at the time would end up lagging while typing and buffering to load KZbin within a few years. Mandatory Windows updates for “security” that contained more bloat did not help either. Google Chrome would straight up crash on these systems. And only Mozilla Firefox would be light enough to run smoothly.
@lucius1976
@lucius1976 3 жыл бұрын
On the first netbooks i got KZbin wasn´t much of a thing. Can´t remember actually knowing it back in 2007
@SilverScarletSpider
@SilverScarletSpider 3 жыл бұрын
lucius1976 Good point. Back in the 2004 - 2006 window many people still didn’t use KZbin. I just remember loving my netbook but then slowly getting disappointed by the poor software optimization and slow speeds.
@ads2711
@ads2711 3 жыл бұрын
My netbook couldn't open chrome
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucius1976 I made crappy videos in 2007 :) KZbin ran terribly on these netbooks back in the day because it used Flash to play; HTML5 video playback was still in very early stages and was not widely supported. I remember watching a friend of mine trying to play one of my videos he had appeared in on his Gen1 Eee PC, he got one frame every couple of seconds. I used the HTML5 KZbin beta in 2009 (p sure it was 09) and it did work, and used less CPU than Flash (instead being as much as VLC or QuickTime would take up), but it couldn’t actually do fullscreen (it would fill the browser window instead - you could put the browser in fullscreen viewing mode as a hack though). That was all ironed out by mid to late 2010, though, and Flash quickly died for non-game uses by 2011 or 2012.
@Ebalosus
@Ebalosus 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah even with netbook-optimised Linux didn’t help that much.
@alexanderjones9766
@alexanderjones9766 2 жыл бұрын
I had a netbook in college, and I still have it. I ran Debian on it and it could handle anything I threw at it: databases, virtual machines, photo editing, even gaming if the game was well-optimized. The latest version of Debian still works perfectly on it. The biggest limitation was perhaps the screen resolution, which was 1024x600. Many apps were and still are designed with a minimum of 1024x768 in mind, meaning that the bottom of the GUI would be cut off.
@DaveEverett01
@DaveEverett01 3 жыл бұрын
Netbooks were great. I gave presentations with them, wrote software, even ran robots and computer vision with them. They never let me down.
@dududu5189
@dududu5189 3 жыл бұрын
@Dave Everett Yes, my Asus eeepc was reliable too. Sturdy little fukka still boots up today with everything working.
@EleanorMcHugh
@EleanorMcHugh 2 жыл бұрын
Bought an MSI Wind and installed MacOS 10.5 then moved to a Dell Inspiron 910 with MacOS 10.6 and a 128GB SSD. Both served well for coding, presentations, working on the move. Cheap enough that if anything had happened to them it wouldn’t have been heartbreaking to replace them.
@mrfathed3129
@mrfathed3129 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about Netbooks was that in the process of replacing Windows Starter Edition with Linux, I learned I liked Linux.
@vinyl.croatia
@vinyl.croatia 3 жыл бұрын
I like linux too, but still it doesn't have some critical programs for me, so i still didn't entirely switch to it from windows
@niklasdavind4722
@niklasdavind4722 3 жыл бұрын
@Mabel Pines true
@timurtheterrible4062
@timurtheterrible4062 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinyl.croatia I assume they don't run with Wine out of the box, but try and find out if there's a path out there to make it run. You might be surprised.
@sturm1379
@sturm1379 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the first time I installed a GNU/Linux system if a remember correctly was to improve perfomance in my netbook (a samsung nc 110 with an intel atom n570 with 2 GB of ram). I remember that I tried some distros in it: ubuntu mate, lubuntu and Antix were the ones I use the most. Now i'm using ubuntu mate in it (i don't really remember why I didn't stay with Antix, but i may install it again). Fortunately it's not my main PC anymore. I use a desktop PC (pretty good by the way) and a notebook. The notebook had an amd athlon tf-20 but i replaced it with an turion 64 x2 tl -60 (the best upgrade that i made in my life). Nowdays all the new notebooks come with BGA processors.
@trailblazercombi
@trailblazercombi 3 жыл бұрын
Linux was what allowed me to use my netbook until mid-2020 At that time though, the pandemic came, and it turns out a single-core Celeron isn't exactly the best for video conferencing...
@mynameis9683
@mynameis9683 2 жыл бұрын
I used a netbook between the third year of my undergrad and second year of my PhD. Wrote my undergrad dissertation, my master's thesis and most of my research notes for the PhD on the same machine + used it as my TV for a year between degrees. No freaking idea how I managed that, looking at it now it's so tiny
@yusefinc1096
@yusefinc1096 3 жыл бұрын
I sold a lot of netbooks running a pawnshop for years 😂 some were decent. HP and Acer made decent netbooks. Windows starter edition was okay. Basic web browsing. Basic word processing.
@philipbridler
@philipbridler 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering what you find so funny about your own comment. Explain.
@yusefinc1096
@yusefinc1096 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering why you wasted your time typing this dumb ass comment. Explain.
@othinus
@othinus 3 жыл бұрын
I was one of the late adopters of Netbooks back in 2012. My mom bought the last emachines model before it was discontinued. 10.1 inch 768p TN display, Atom dual core, a beefy fan that kept it from choking, and for some reason it had 4gb of RAM and Windows 7 Ultimate. We got it on sale for about $150 Brand New. I still use it now with Linux XFCE. It can actually run 720p60 or 1080p30 videos on KZbin. Stay Healthy and Cheers from the Philippines. ⛑️♥️🇵🇭
@TurboPikachu
@TurboPikachu 3 жыл бұрын
Very impressive specs for a netbook-class PC. I was a mid-gen netbook adopter that came in around December 2010 with HP's Mini 110c-1105DX. At 10.1" with a 1024x600 TN panel, Atom single core-hyperthreaded (said hyperthreading saving it from being awful), decent fan, and 2GB RAM, it was a wonderful little multitasker between web browsing and Winamp audio playback. It started to buckle even under chat clients such as Steam, Windows Live Messenger, and Skype by early 2013, but most websites even around that time still weren't too demanding for it yet. I just wish its charging port didn't quit in 2013, because I would have *loved* to bring it up to Lubuntu 18.04LTS LXQT
@othinus
@othinus 3 жыл бұрын
@@TurboPikachu That's one of the downsides of owning a 'dead platform' piece of tech. When sonething does inevitably go wrong, we're out of luck finding parts. My netbook's batteries are completely dead so it's plugged into a wall socket whenever I use it. Goodbye mobility.
@JustARegularNerd
@JustARegularNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my EEE PC 1000H, with a 1.6GHz single core hyperthreaded x86 Intel Atom, 2GB of memory and currently a 250GB SSD (which really didn't help the start times at all anyway lol). What distro are you using on yours? Finding distros that still support x86 is getting hard, and Debian with Xfce is too much for it. Currently I have Slackware x86 on it, and it's """usable""", but if I could find something better, I'd be very interested. I tried Arch 32 and that actually worked, except I hated having to do absolutely everything manually and not being able to figure out certain things like automatically mounting a removable drive.
@othinus
@othinus 3 жыл бұрын
@@JustARegularNerd I use Mint XFCE. Linux MATE tends to perform the same, even though it's supposed to be more resource intensive. Puppy Linux might be a better option, based on your netbook's RAM. If your CPU is 64bit you can even install Chrome OS with Google Play Store and OTA update support. It runs on Debian kernel so you can install linux apps through the terminal.
@othinus
@othinus 3 жыл бұрын
@BedrockPlayer123 Aye! Sup?
@thecodotmo9063
@thecodotmo9063 3 жыл бұрын
i remember my acer aspire one's motherboard getting caught on fire while i was charging it *good times*
@geekygirl2596
@geekygirl2596 3 жыл бұрын
Oh that sounds scary.
@mzin2534
@mzin2534 3 жыл бұрын
My shop pc went on fire and make a whole desk burn
@realMrVent
@realMrVent 3 жыл бұрын
I really like your video style. It's clear, concise, and reasonably paced. Great work!!
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 3 жыл бұрын
I was so grateful having an netbook during my university, because before that I had a super clunky heavy gateway notebook. I used the eeePC 1001-ha for the entire curriculum, from programming, graph theory and notekeeping. It was good.
@seanharvey1250
@seanharvey1250 3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna quote DankPods: *EeePeeCee...*
@ozi039
@ozi039 3 жыл бұрын
someone's been in here
@crysiscrysis720
@crysiscrysis720 3 жыл бұрын
Eeeeepeeeccee
@XMANIAFLYYY
@XMANIAFLYYY 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@blvrryvhs
@blvrryvhs 3 жыл бұрын
Dank pods is an awesome youtuber
@SimbianGaming
@SimbianGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@johnsabilla5897
@johnsabilla5897 3 жыл бұрын
I had a netbook back in college around 2011-2012. It was serviceable for my use case. Go online, read pdfs, ssh into a more powerful machine. I really loved it. I ended up giving it to a friend who still had a year left of school after I graduated.
@manamaster6
@manamaster6 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 2009 my father allowed me to use his netbook for my programming project and I was surprised it was able to compile a Visual Studio project. It helped me to finish the project a few minutes before the final presentation. After my father died a few months ago we finally sent the netbook to the recycling center, as it stopped working last year after at least 3 resurrections in a decade.
@Ryan_Parmelee
@Ryan_Parmelee 2 жыл бұрын
My first laptop was the exact one shown in the video. It was given to me as a gift for Christmas of 2011. Sure it wasn't great but as a kid I didn't know better and I was happy with it.
@bricegraham8256
@bricegraham8256 3 жыл бұрын
I lowkey thought netbooks were super cool when I was a kid. I remember when my school first got them and we were some of the first few students to use them and I was just fascinated by how nice, clean and small they were.
@fenn_fren
@fenn_fren 3 жыл бұрын
There's just something fascinating about small computers.
@davidlisanjaya5871
@davidlisanjaya5871 3 жыл бұрын
Well ofc you are a kid
@bricegraham8256
@bricegraham8256 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidlisanjaya5871 I'm 21 bro. Not a child. Well maybe if your like 50 something then I guess I'd be considered a kid to you
@bricegraham8256
@bricegraham8256 3 жыл бұрын
@@fenn_fren yeah they were. Well back then. They don't really turn my wheels anymore. Except for small 2 in 1s. Those are pretty cool.
@fenn_fren
@fenn_fren 3 жыл бұрын
@@bricegraham8256 tbh I'm all over the GPD products right now. A fully equipped Windows 10 laptop that fits IN YOUR POCKET? That is what I find really cool. That and Windows 10 tablets.
@breakcoregirlxd
@breakcoregirlxd 3 жыл бұрын
my netbook was awesome it was an asus eee pc 1011px with 2gb ram (2010), i found it fast but my internet at the time could only stream 360p, i also played minecraft on it at like 10-15fps lol. The toshiba netbooks were the worst because of the amount of junk they put on them
@user-ed4ed5ju8r
@user-ed4ed5ju8r 3 жыл бұрын
me who has that amd e3500 Toshiba laptop: tell me more(sarcastically said)
@MaseraSteve2
@MaseraSteve2 3 жыл бұрын
Have the 2011 version im shocked that still kickin rather well with winxp for a backup machine! Firefox still ran well on it although the fan spins loudly 😁 (minus the linear strip on the screen)
@soldadoryanbr7776
@soldadoryanbr7776 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same version as you!but the netbook is almost useless nowadays actually
@MaseraSteve2
@MaseraSteve2 3 жыл бұрын
@@soldadoryanbr7776 heh, interestingdunno why this little snitch can outlast 2 of my family member newer laptop and recently my lenovo (which are much expensive) it got ram upgrade from 512 to max 2gb might be the reason mine still ran fine but talkin about it longevity? well no idea😂😂😂
@soldadoryanbr7776
@soldadoryanbr7776 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaseraSteve2 I had to uninstall the drivers because random keys of the keyboard would get pressed non stop,you couldn't do anything cuz esc would be pressed,It fails to update,battery is dead so everytime you turn It on you need to go trough that grey setup screen and set the time,the cpu is underpowered and there isn't enough RAM for web browsing or KZbin,but it's a great machine for coding actually
@iandoesallthethings
@iandoesallthethings 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly loved my Acer aspire one. It got me through college from 2009 to 2013. It definitely slowed down near the end, but for working on campus when I was away from my gaming PC at home, it was really perfect.
@lukebodden8618
@lukebodden8618 2 жыл бұрын
i had 4 netbooks and i liked them. they were all i really needed at the time and they had good battery life, and i didnt care about anything else. they fit my needs back then and its really interesting to learn more about why they failed
@benb8935
@benb8935 3 жыл бұрын
cough cough- Arent Chromebooks basically Netbooks?
@domm4633
@domm4633 3 жыл бұрын
No because Chrome OS does way better on limited hardware than Windows does. Plus there's far nicer Chromebooks now with i3, i5, i7 processors and 8 to 16 GB of ram plus back lit keyboards and touch screens. You can run Linux on the newer ones and some gaming services are making their way to the platform. For doing simple things like web browsing or using Android apps a Chromebook is way better than netbooks were.
@nrbh2078
@nrbh2078 3 жыл бұрын
And its more lightweight system (Correct me if i am wrong
@MegaManNeo
@MegaManNeo 3 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure if they didn't burn the Netbook branding and it wasn't about Google pushing their propaganda on us, these things could just as well be named Netbooks. I mean technically I can turn any laptop into a Chromebook and most recent Chromebooks can run proper Linux distros (and yes, I know Chrome OS is based on Gentoo) or just run its software inside a Debian chroot.
@SprattyD
@SprattyD 3 жыл бұрын
@@domm4633 16gb of ram and an i7 is a tad overkill for a chromebook though
@domm4633
@domm4633 3 жыл бұрын
@@SprattyD It is but you also have to think about the longevity of the device since newer chromebooks are being supported for 8 years. I have an i3 chromebook with 8gb of ram and its really nice to use.
@joshdove
@joshdove 3 жыл бұрын
I had one for so long in high school and it was amazing
@rayhanrizvi334
@rayhanrizvi334 3 жыл бұрын
I used a netbook for my whole elementary years, the screen was small, so i hooked it to a monitor. Still works lol. I think it was not a scam
@kailer2488
@kailer2488 3 жыл бұрын
I have one, running windows 10
@YaroLord
@YaroLord 3 жыл бұрын
put off your rose tinted glasses lol the specs in netbooks were horrible, they were useless for anything beyond basic internet browsing and office software they always packed the poorest, lowest spec CPUs and very little ram... if you like slow computers tho, power to you
@CoasterMan13Official
@CoasterMan13Official 3 жыл бұрын
My aunt Kristy had one. That thing was a piece O' crap.
@rayhanrizvi334
@rayhanrizvi334 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoasterMan13Official does it still work?
@AceOfSevens
@AceOfSevens 2 жыл бұрын
The main thing is the were small. Great for college students with tiny desks who needed to type notes & look at materials. There's nothing in the 10 inch space now & 14 hangs off those desks. I had a eee PC, but switched to Aspire One after about a semester because the former was too limited.
@jamesperih9658
@jamesperih9658 2 жыл бұрын
I was an on-site technology consultant; my netbook was invaluable for research, live invoicing, some basic troubleshooting, and let me tell you -- often faster than a client's PC. It was Acer, it ran Windows XP.
@LBSiUK
@LBSiUK 3 жыл бұрын
If you still have one of these things kicking around then shove a cheap SSD in it and run Lubuntu on it. Upgrade your RAM to 2GB and enjoy.
@DacLMK
@DacLMK 3 жыл бұрын
I think AntiX will do a better job.
@primusconvoy
@primusconvoy 3 жыл бұрын
@@DacLMK I run Sparky on mine. Dell Latitude 2120 with 2GB DDR3 and it does pretty good. I can run games like Half Life on it in Steam and they are perfectly playable.
@alexxx4434
@alexxx4434 3 жыл бұрын
Ubuntu and its derivatives nowadays are FAT
@dmitryhetman1509
@dmitryhetman1509 3 жыл бұрын
@@DacLMK But why not debian or debian oldstable? You can install debian and DWM or Weston with your software. From start it consumes like 100mb, but in fact it should be less if don't count cash. AntiX and PuppyLinux seems to be good option to run from USB drive.
@mjverostek1278
@mjverostek1278 3 жыл бұрын
Puppy Linux, Slackware base
@cire1963
@cire1963 3 жыл бұрын
Basically a chrome book in 2020.
@LambdaMiscellaneous
@LambdaMiscellaneous 3 жыл бұрын
Much better
@callaco3176
@callaco3176 3 жыл бұрын
Lambda Gaming Worse.
@LambdaMiscellaneous
@LambdaMiscellaneous 3 жыл бұрын
Munchacho nope
@DrSwoose
@DrSwoose 3 жыл бұрын
@@callaco3176 trust me, the chrome books are way better. Most netbooks could hardly handle youtube at the time.
@LambdaMiscellaneous
@LambdaMiscellaneous 3 жыл бұрын
OwenBland Chrome OS is Linux based,you can’t make an OS out of a web browser
@numberyellow
@numberyellow 3 жыл бұрын
When i needed something small, and capable for work, i picked up a 2nd-gen Acer Aspire one. I maxed out the RAM, replaced the HDD with a faster one, and loaded Win7 pro. it was a damned good little machine.. hell, i still is. while it doesn't see nearly as much use as it used to, i still use it for jobs, once in a while. For the kind of work i bought it for, tablets were worthless, and full-sized notebooks were just too big to be lugging around in the field.
@moonshinepz
@moonshinepz 3 жыл бұрын
I'm actually watching this in my workshop on an old acer ES1-111 vintage 2009 netbook, with windows 10 installed, whilst working on an HP Elitebook that replaced the netbook to run a cutting machine in the shop. So the old netbook still gets used - most of the time for youtube and video-calls - Runs windows 10 fine though, which still surprises me. Definitely still have their uses. Got an eMachine DS620 on Vista running another one. It's like a crappy Poundland version of the Borg ship in here 🤣 I take the old acer on bike trips with me camping. Definitely don't regret dragging it back out from "the cupboard of discarded tech" last year.
@joslyntorres8691
@joslyntorres8691 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't necessarily fail, they evolved into other markets.
@RydalS
@RydalS 3 жыл бұрын
Their spiritual successors are definitely Chromebooks.
@natevemuri9024
@natevemuri9024 3 жыл бұрын
@@RydalS yes
@KentoCommenT
@KentoCommenT 3 жыл бұрын
Such as the 2 in 1 with detachable keyboard
@XMANIAFLYYY
@XMANIAFLYYY 3 жыл бұрын
@@RydalS except chromebooks are trash. I know that from experience.
@kovyvuri
@kovyvuri 3 жыл бұрын
@@XMANIAFLYYY Not all of them, but I respect your opinion formed by your own personal experiences.
@pakolorente7423
@pakolorente7423 3 жыл бұрын
Idea was pretty cool, but in Europe was too expensive vs "normal" size laptop. So every choosing normal laptop
@ErkanMehmedali
@ErkanMehmedali 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Always told my friends to by the normal ones. Bigger screen, but better specs and overall better cooling.
@alexandredevert4935
@alexandredevert4935 2 жыл бұрын
I still have one around from 2012. I put Arch Linux (32 bits variant) with a very light weight environment (stock DWM with a few patches), beefed the RAM. I still use it for recreational/exploratory coding and as a serial terminal when hooking it to hardware. It's good enough to edit code, and the slow CPU is a motivation to use simple tools and good algorithms.
@pavelgrulich2989
@pavelgrulich2989 3 жыл бұрын
You earned a sub immiadetely as the czech ad with Chuck Norris showed up. I instantly got a flashback from childhood 😀
@Vienna3080
@Vienna3080 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in a poor family and my family used a shitty 2008 Netbook for so many years, so that thing was my childhood
@9852323
@9852323 3 жыл бұрын
My childhood was a crappy desktop with windows 95
@ripp3rjak934
@ripp3rjak934 3 жыл бұрын
if it worked it worked. i had a shitty dell pc.
@serang
@serang 3 жыл бұрын
@@9852323 you must be old 🙄
@andeleon6838
@andeleon6838 3 жыл бұрын
Awww same here :) my Intel Celeron/1GB ram netbook lasted 10 years! We also had desktop which lasted about the same time, this one had Pentium 3/2GB ram, I used it only when I needed to do anything heavier like render videos but it still took a looong time. Even our internet at the time was only 1mbps 😅 the struggles of long loading time for everything lol. Sucks but definitely made me more patient and made me plan things better in advance. Just thinking I was still lucky to have that. Other kids my age could only afford to rent PC at internet cafes for an hour or two. But times have changed for the better, the smartphone is technically an entry level computer now and is more accessible to everybody.
@KokoroKatsura
@KokoroKatsura 3 жыл бұрын
A N I M E N I M E
@ahlalkubur
@ahlalkubur 3 жыл бұрын
hey, the netbook's slow processor's speed made me realize that to increase the PC's specs you can't just download some random program online, lol.
@AlgoCurioso4
@AlgoCurioso4 3 жыл бұрын
Wait! Netbooks? I always thought they were called Notebooks and I used to have one HP with touchscreen and a pen, the screen rotate 180° so you can use the pen comfortable. Can’t remember the name, but it was very small
@CoasterMan13Official
@CoasterMan13Official 3 жыл бұрын
Notebooks are 14 inchers, while netbooks were 6-11.
@theunreal_TOEBEANS
@theunreal_TOEBEANS 2 жыл бұрын
Was it spiral bound?
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis 2 жыл бұрын
"Notebook" is just a synonym for Laptop, just as Netbook is a (low-end with built-in networking) Laptop. Marketers like to differentiate things to increase sales & excitement, but there's rarely anything important behind their PR.
@youtubeshadowbannedme
@youtubeshadowbannedme 2 жыл бұрын
Laptops with rotating touchscreens are called ultrabooks
@Matthy63
@Matthy63 2 жыл бұрын
I had the HP one that rotated 180° but wasn't touchscreen circa 2012, the hinge was absolute garbage, my dad must have slapped gorilla glue on it like 20 times. IIRC the power supply or the hard drive or something gave out a couple of months in and it had to go back to hp to get fixed. Then against my better judgment I replaced it with another HP netbook circa 2015 which was at least durable but only by virtue of being so laughably underspecced that it would never wear out. I think I payed like 300 euros for it and probably most of that was the SSD at the time. Actually no, I had forgotten about the time a whole column of the keyboard just gave up working like 2 months in when I was in a foreign country and couldn't easily send it back to get it fixed. So as a student I was pasting in characters to write essays, it was wild. Speaking of the SSD it was 32Gb, so more like 28, and the OS alone took up 20 of that. You could not change or upgrade the SSD or RAM because both were soldered to the motherboard (2Gb RAM in 2015 was already low and borderline inappropriate for Windows). That one actually would have done quite well with Linux but I never bothered. As someone old enough to remember computers where everything was modular this rubs me the wrong way. You'd buy a shitty "cheap" computer yes and then when you could afford it you upgraded parts, that's how it always used to work. Like the only difference in design between this laptop and the 500€ one is that you could actually change the parts when technology and your budget got to that point. Like, I did buy these laptops for a reason because I was a broke student, and the joke *is* on me for actively buying HP a second time after swearing to myself I never would. But when what you're selling is that arbitrarily shitty (see Windows Starter) it ends up feeling like a slap in the face.
@friendk422
@friendk422 2 жыл бұрын
Had an Asus X101H as my first PC, had been turned off for the past 6 years. Just recently rediscovered it, decided to restore and upgrade it with a replacement battery and monitor, SSD, and 2GB RAM. It now works like and runs as fast as a normal laptop
@TurboPikachu
@TurboPikachu 3 жыл бұрын
I adored my HP Mini 110c I bought used in December 2010. The previous owner even slapped Win 7 Ultimate on it before selling it for about $240. It was the first PC I owned for myself, and despite the Atom and 2GB RAM, it was phenomenal for light web browsing (for circa 2011-2013 web), Winamp music-playback, and Genesis/SNES emulation throughout its 2 years with me before its charging/AC port quit. It also helps that Win7 was the best experience I've ever had in my now 21-year history with Windows. I've since moved on to much more powerful/interesting hardware, such as a 17" Core-i7 laptop in 2013 and an 11" convertible tablet-laptop in 2013 (both laptops being Windows 8), building myself a PC in 2017 (with Windows 10), a series of iOS devices throughout 2014 - present, and lastly getting my first Macbook in 2018. But none of my experiences with any of these computers were as fun or stress-free as my time with that Windows 7 netbook. Learning MacOS on the Macbook Pro (though fine enough) is still a learning process, and as such, is filled with lots of little roadblocks. Windows 8 on the two laptops was fine enough but something always felt 'off' about 8. And while I adore my tiny 2017 ITX beast I built, Windows 10 has made my experience on it just miserable over the past 3 years; Windows 10 is the worst experience I've had in my 21 years of working with Windows - I'm just waiting until the Linux community's Proton project reaches close to 80%/90% compatibility with Steam's library of games and then I'm moving the PC to Linux (likely Ubuntu or Mint) and will likely do the same for my two remaining Windows 8 laptops when Win8's End-of-Life comes about in 2023. Linux will be another challenging learning process for me, even moreso than MacOS; But I've had all I can tolerate of Windows 10 and need an OS that's not constantly flaunting its worst traits as features.
@Windows7Pro2009
@Windows7Pro2009 3 жыл бұрын
TurboPikachuX which 17 inch Core i7 laptop is it?
@TurboPikachu
@TurboPikachu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Windows7Pro2009 HP Envy DV7-7250US (2012) 17.3" @ 1600x900 Intel Core i7-3630QM 2.4GHz (3.4GHz iTB) Intel HD Graphics 4000 8GB DDR3-1066 RAM 5400RPM 1TB HDD
@Windows7Pro2009
@Windows7Pro2009 3 жыл бұрын
@@TurboPikachu Does HP have an option for a dedicated GPU?
@TurboPikachu
@TurboPikachu 3 жыл бұрын
@@Windows7Pro2009 HP did offer about 3 other configs of the Envy DV7 that had an Nvidia GeForce 650M, but the only model I could find at my Office Depot and Best Buy locations was the integrated-only 7250us. That said though, Intel's HD 4000 from May 2012 was so much closer to the performance of Nvidia's GeForce 6xx-series laptop GPUs from March 2012 than any of Intels future iGPs would ever get against proper laptop GPUs. I mean, considering intel's 2019 Iris Plus iGP can't even output 1/3 of the performance of 2016 laptops with GTX 1050m graphics, I struggle to believe that the upcoming "Iris Xe" iGPs will catch up to AMD's Polaris-based Vega and Navi-based RX5000M-series, or Nvidia's Pascal-based GTX10M-series and Turing-based GTX16M-series/RTX20M-series I was actually quite impressed back in 2013 that the HD 4000 iGP could run late-generation PS3/360 titles like Sonic Generations GTA V at medium settings/30fps at native 900p, and even ran some current-gen titles such as Rocket League and Warframe at resolutions and frame rates above that of the Nintendo Switch's. But ultimately once I built my gaming PC in January 2017 (i5-6400, RX480-4GB, 16GB DDR4-3000 RAM, roughly around Xbox One X spec and above-spec of the PS4 Pro and upcoming Xbox Series S), I stopped laptop-gaming altogether, as moving the PC from a 60hz 1920x1080 TV to an ultrawide 2560x1080 75hz FreeSync monitor in April 2019 really killed my interest in anything laptops had to offer
@Windows7Pro2009
@Windows7Pro2009 3 жыл бұрын
TurboPikachuX Thanks for the info, as I’ve been looking at used laptops with dedicated GPUs. But now I am stuck with a Core 2 Duo T7200 with 2GB RAM and Windows 10 ;-;
@GarbanzoBeansFan
@GarbanzoBeansFan 3 жыл бұрын
when i hear EEE PEE CEE i just think of DankPods 🤣🤣🤣
@szecsiadam2228
@szecsiadam2228 3 жыл бұрын
Me too xd
@LarisB
@LarisB 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I will always associate that name with him 🤣
@Lightning2011
@Lightning2011 3 жыл бұрын
Lol ikr
@ozi039
@ozi039 3 жыл бұрын
someone's been in here
@greyfiveys
@greyfiveys 3 жыл бұрын
*ITS A NUGGET*
@mr.pavone9719
@mr.pavone9719 2 жыл бұрын
I had a little Acer and it was sweet for what I used it for: keeping work notes, downloading technician's manuals and specs for HVAC systems. The really nice thing was that it kept my kid from loading up my desktop computer with malware.
@grenzviel4480
@grenzviel4480 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know where my netbook went. My mom bought one for me 'cause she didn't want me hanging out in internet cafes, but I completely forgot when I stopped using it. I do remember it being absolutely terrible in terms of performance. I wasn't even trying to play games, yet it was struggling to get it to work when I needed it to.
@lucius1976
@lucius1976 3 жыл бұрын
Used my Eee pc a lot before the Pad era for surfing the internet in bed. They were lightweight. Still working with some flaw. Recently installed Puppy Linux on it.
@seanng33
@seanng33 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Toshiba Netbook back in 2011 (when I was in High School). Upgraded the RAM to 2gb, was one of the best purchases I made then.
@Huyderman
@Huyderman 2 жыл бұрын
I had a eeePC with Linux, and I loved it. It was lightweight and worked well to write on. It filled a niche for me that tablets or a laptop don't really do.
@ZeeTaylor25
@ZeeTaylor25 2 жыл бұрын
I had a netbook back in 2008. It was great for the price. It was able to run Photoshop and some video editing applications. I was able to use it until 2013-2014 plugged into a monitor. It wasn't fast but it got the job done.
@samt6788
@samt6788 3 жыл бұрын
I had one from my grandma it was called an Eee Pc made by ASUS with windows 7, and it took 50 years to do anything. We won't talk about what happened when it upgraded to windows 8.
@fenn_fren
@fenn_fren 3 жыл бұрын
My friend had an Eee PC and when he updated it to 8 it would just crash on startup.
@core36
@core36 3 жыл бұрын
@@fenn_fren my mom also had an asus eee pc, same experience, but we never upgraded to windows 8. Anti-virus software was the biggest performance killer. She gave it to me and now it has an ssd and Linux mint and now it boots within 10-20 seconds and I can actually use it. On a side note, without the hdd, the screen is to heavy for the eeepc so it won't stand correctly. I was lucky I had an old ssd that was as heavy as the hdd that was in the eeepc.
@robertavery152
@robertavery152 3 жыл бұрын
My Eee pc got me into Linux, grateful for that ;)
@birger315
@birger315 Жыл бұрын
I had a friend, who is a doctor, send me his old Dell netbook that I sold him over 10 years ago for $50. He has been continually using it and finally it hit a snag. He spent $40 sending it to me after he spent over $100 for some tech to say "You got an old piece of crap not worth fixing." It was a software malfunction on Win7 starter and I fixed it and sent it back to him. He plans on using it indefinitely because it has a bunch of GB in his music library and he uses it for his daily devotions. He says "When I turn it on, I just go make a cup of coffee and wait and it eventually boots up." He has taken it all over the world (and had those who saw it probably snickered). But it still meets his needs.
@hermanwooster8944
@hermanwooster8944 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully he has a USB flash drive or something to back up his music so he doesn't lose it all in a hard drive failure.
@nerdphilosopher3786
@nerdphilosopher3786 2 жыл бұрын
My first computer was a netbook. Your criticisms are valid, and I remember having these issues. However, the nostalgia is still real in my case. I guess when you have no other reference point, these issues just feel like how computers are.
@Windows7Pro2009
@Windows7Pro2009 3 жыл бұрын
There were some 11.6 inch netbooks that actually came with Core i5 and Core i7 ULV processors like the Acer TimelineX 1830T, although it costed $699 when it came out.
@RuruFIN
@RuruFIN 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my ex having one, damn those Atoms were SLOW..
@AshenTiger
@AshenTiger 3 жыл бұрын
I'd leave someone if they used a netbook too 😂
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 жыл бұрын
@@AshenTiger maybe he left her cuz she was too fast with too many, get it 😆
@lifeisshrt7929
@lifeisshrt7929 3 жыл бұрын
Mac Gyver LOL
@pilotavery
@pilotavery 3 жыл бұрын
Mine with the dual core atom was alright. Slow but fine with Windows 7 for word processing.
@rustymixer2886
@rustymixer2886 3 жыл бұрын
@@pilotavery would be faster just xp
@veloxsouth
@veloxsouth 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my Samsung N120. Most of the work I did at the time was staring at a screen, thinking, and typing. I needed something that could last 12+ hours a day and do it on a budget fit for a ramen diet and netbooks delivered. Chromebooks really don't fill that role left by netbooks. They often come locked down and unable to run what I needed. I miss the freedom and accessibility of a cheap, long battery life device with a fully capable OS.
@LuLeBe
@LuLeBe 5 ай бұрын
For a friend in school, the Acer Aspire A110, a 9 inch netbook for 160€, was his first PC. It was affordable, and it allowed him to run the Lego mindstorms software, he built his first website on it etc. He's a Google engineer now, and likely wouldn't be if that thing hadn't forced him to be productive instead of playing games.
@meljoe13
@meljoe13 3 жыл бұрын
I still have a HP Mini working as a local media server in my home.
@MarcinKralka
@MarcinKralka 3 жыл бұрын
I have been experimenting some time ago with running Minecraft Server on a netbook on Linux (running from usb drive because (of course) drive have failed), it was pretty OK for at least 2 people playing simultaneously.
@TheSektorz
@TheSektorz 3 жыл бұрын
I fondly remember the Asus EEEeEeeeeeEeeeEEeE It was kinda cool at the time for its smallness but here I am now using a tablet to write this
@tungus-
@tungus- 3 жыл бұрын
The SektorZ EeePeeCee
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 3 жыл бұрын
The eeePC would have frozen just trying to load this video, so, of course, you don't have to swear you're not writing your comment using it...
@zshall48
@zshall48 3 жыл бұрын
I had an MSI Wind netbook that still works today, though I don’t connect it to the internet anymore since it still runs XP. Great machine for the price, 250 GB hard drive which was big for a netbook. The only problem I ran into was the hinge, which cracked and the plastic shell of the computer now splits on the sides whenever I open it.
@dustytin
@dustytin Жыл бұрын
I had a netbook, and I loved it - perfect for an unemployed person who just needed something very cheap to write CVs and cover letters. Worked amazing.
@Phantomwise2
@Phantomwise2 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my netbook in high school because it was so easily-portable. I'd pull it out whenever I had time and work on my projects anywhere.
@supercintanegra
@supercintanegra 2 жыл бұрын
X2
@RamLaska
@RamLaska 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the OLPC. That was the inspiration for the netbooks.
@MightyRob1
@MightyRob1 Жыл бұрын
Survived on a blue Acer Aspire One for almost two years before it went to that Ebay farm upstate; It served me well as I knew what it was limited too and I had a desktop at home for “real’ work. For you younger gens, use an inflation calculator for 2008-2009 when that recession hit, even an iPod Touch was a major purchase during the holidays, so a laptop for under $300 was quite a bargain.
@lecorbeaucassecouilles7365
@lecorbeaucassecouilles7365 3 жыл бұрын
My family had a netbook as our first laptop. It was a Packard Bell and ran with 1gb of ram on Windows Vista. It was slow as hell, I remember playing minecraft on it and getting lag when rain happened. Then the gpu died and I couldn't play minecraft. I ended up playing Starbound who was a less demanding title, It was my first video game at the time. Such memories! That netbook lived pretty well, as it was passed to my sister and used as far as 2016. At the end of its life, battery life was nonexistent, it randomly crashed and deleted stuff, and you would get electric shocks from the palmrest. So in overall it was kind of a dumpsterfire and I'm glad we switched to better hardware. But I won't forget you, tiny Packard Bell. Rest in peace.
@lewos2795
@lewos2795 3 жыл бұрын
my grandma had one
@ameenie
@ameenie 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@mmrw
@mmrw 3 жыл бұрын
That seems very much like a grandma thing to have
@MichaelDavis-on7os
@MichaelDavis-on7os 3 жыл бұрын
69
@ameenie
@ameenie 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelDavis-on7os 420
@msbhicks8358
@msbhicks8358 3 жыл бұрын
nice pfp
@chandagautam1149
@chandagautam1149 3 жыл бұрын
This video should be named, -"How notebooks were killed" I am glad to know this part of netbook historyof tech.
@uni-byte
@uni-byte 3 жыл бұрын
I bought an Acer Aspire 1 (model ZG5) in December of 2008 (actually bought one for my wife too. Xmas presents), over the years I upgraded the memory to 2GB and put a 128GB SSD into it. Still on XP-SP3. I still use it today, not for the internet, but as a printer server, a scanner server and to back-up my NAS to a couple of big HDDs. It get's the job done and with the extra memory and the SSD it runs XP like a trooper.
@418_im_a_teapot
@418_im_a_teapot 3 жыл бұрын
I've had an acer aspire one 753 in my last years of school and the first year of uni. Definitely warm memories, but I'm glad it's left behind. Crappy Celeron, battery life of about 6h (when it was new) and actually quite good monitor connectivity: it had a VGA and HDMI port. I absolutely did use it for all kinds of presentations. Sold it in 2015 for 90€ though and never looked back. Up until your video, that is. Weird times.
@MrNotgoth
@MrNotgoth 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I had that Acer aspire one...started me through my first half of college, but it was ALWAYS slow. It was horrible
@XDboyLolz
@XDboyLolz 3 жыл бұрын
what's the model of it?
@vulc1
@vulc1 3 жыл бұрын
@@XDboyLolz Acer Aspire One 722
@NyxTheNerd
@NyxTheNerd 3 жыл бұрын
I had that one. It's broken now, busted screen. I learned how to manually optimize games using it. (Getting a playable FPS on Skyrim and World at War).
@rhianneaina2657
@rhianneaina2657 3 жыл бұрын
I still have it. Very slow and battery's crap. edit: screen's also glitching, lol.
@WagesOfDestruction
@WagesOfDestruction 3 жыл бұрын
Loved it. It was small, fitted great in my suitcase or carry bag and so I took it over the world. The problem was that it could not take much damage, so it broke and then I never replaced it.
@LelouchLamperouge235
@LelouchLamperouge235 3 жыл бұрын
Good one, did not expect that Czech T-mobile ad with Chuck Norris :D To this day I dont know why he took that job :D
@NamelessMoreOne
@NamelessMoreOne 2 жыл бұрын
People forget that Windows 7 at launch was incredibly bloated and almost reached "Crysis" status. Vista also had that, due to different reasons, but most people ignored it and still used XP. So a Starter version made sense. What didn't make sense, as you pointed out, is stripping everything, even background changing. The last netbook my family ever got was exactly around the time it came with the Starter Edition.
@lahynatorcz8971
@lahynatorcz8971 3 жыл бұрын
10:03 I'm Czech and I thought that there is an add. ty :)
@vojtacihelka337
@vojtacihelka337 3 жыл бұрын
češi jsou prostě všude xDD
@webmasale
@webmasale 3 жыл бұрын
What
@jakubcenek9591
@jakubcenek9591 3 жыл бұрын
@@webmasale The advertisment in the video with Chuck Norris is in Czech. :) Cool!
@j-trains
@j-trains Ай бұрын
​@@vojtacihelka337Jojo, všude - jak v tý reklamě na T-Mobile - mezi svými
@stephen-lt9ei
@stephen-lt9ei 3 жыл бұрын
I remember my first ever laptop was a 2010 netbook with Windows 7 Stater. It was slow for basic web browsing even in 2010. Even my 9 year old self wondered why I couldn't change the wallpaper for FREE. Also, I remember it could not handle Windows Update and it would freeze halfway through updates almost every time.
@BeniRoseMusic
@BeniRoseMusic 3 жыл бұрын
I think the battery life is really the thing that made netbooks stand out in their time. Even if you spent money one of the classic white macbooks of the day, you still only got 4-5 hours out of that thing on a VERY good day, not to mention that number went down the longer you owned it, which was as long as possible because you paid more for it, so realistically you averaged 2-3. Comparatively the eee pc got 9-10 hours which was unheard of for a laptop, but it wouldn't be long before that was the standard.
@dDesirie
@dDesirie 6 ай бұрын
Yo, I have the same one shown in the video! I really like the water drop design on the case, too. This was one of the most "powerful" models back then, often called "an ultrabook on a budget" by some. I upgraded the RAM and swapped the hard drive for an SSD. A month ago, I took it out of the drawer, installed Lubuntu on it, and now this little thing runs better than when I first got it. It even runs VS Code. I've been using it to run scripts that automatically upload files to my GitHub repo for about a month now. It’s been on this whole time and gets the job done. Good job covering this!
@dellawrence4323
@dellawrence4323 3 жыл бұрын
I still use my netbook, just max out the RAM and put an SSD in them and they still work well.
@MikaMizell
@MikaMizell 3 жыл бұрын
Same here. Have a white Acer Aspire One (the newer model with smooth lid instead of the rippled lid shown here. It looked really futuristic when it released.) Came with Win XP Home, 256Megs of RAM, and a 256G Spinning HDD. Considering I was moving up from a 2001 year model Celeron D Processor, the Intel Atom core flew. I cloned my Need For Speed games, The Sims 2, SimCopter, and various emulators onto it. It literally never left my side. My mother sold it off after I moved to College, but I managed to find a similar one in Blue. Upgraded the RAM on it. It's my go to Game Console now. Still use the little guy for games that don't run on my modern Gaming PC. I also frequently carry a Jailbroken iPad 2 3G. Guess I'm a sucker for old gadgets lol.
@jayb8934
@jayb8934 3 жыл бұрын
I had a netbook around 2010-2011. Really wasn’t so bad. I found it more useful than an iPad of that era, and it cost like half as much. Also, I found a 3rd party application that let me change the wallpaper on Windows 7 Starter.
@CCSleep_
@CCSleep_ 2 жыл бұрын
I used to use the netbook from around 2011-2012 (bought on 2008), until 2018! I remembered the hard drive was inconsistent in connecting, eventually we needed to stop using it. I got a new laptop after that. This laptop taught me a lot, from how to use a computer, how to install Linux, and how to use Python.
@jaysonjamesguerta8510
@jaysonjamesguerta8510 3 жыл бұрын
I saw 11 inches laptops lately the acer travelmate b3 and asus br1100f.. they come with celeron or pentium silver with ssd.. are those netbooks or just small laptops?
@nitrax8629
@nitrax8629 3 жыл бұрын
Got a Compaq Mini 110 running XP on clearance in early 2009 - I appreciated the portability and battery life on several trips abroad, and it never felt too unbearably slow. I eventually invested in a HD video decoder card - seeing KZbin play back 720p video via Flash Player on such a small machine was an amazing feat! Sadly the internet became way too much for the processor to handle around 2013 or so and shortly after Microsoft killed XP support. It had a good run, and served its purpose well.
@whyjordie
@whyjordie 3 жыл бұрын
I had one of the Toshiba netbooks where you couldn’t change the background but I remember downloading an extension that allowed you to - it was my college computer
@ethylg7572
@ethylg7572 2 жыл бұрын
I had an eee PC from ~2009 and I adored it. It got me through my first 2 years of college. It actually still boots today. With Linux it even runs better than I would have expected. It can play KZbin at least.
@JetWarrior
@JetWarrior 3 жыл бұрын
I had an Asus Eee PC back in the day for college. My sister bought it for me for my birthday, and I upgraded the RAM and the OS to regular Windows 7 (because honestly, not being able to change the wallpaper was legitimately unacceptable to me). Problem is, even with more RAM, it just wasn't meant to run full Windows 7, and it pretty much died. That was the only laptop I ever owned until I got my Surface Pro this year.
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