Why NRG Were SO BAD & Then GOT GOOD!

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[@xdtrollface5721]

Recently I was punished by my mother. When she asked if I had finished the dishes, I replied FNS, and she got angry, because she knew they had not been washed.

[@user-gm3mb4kr2l]

Got a chuckle from me

[@itsdogarmy]

Som has an undisclosed disease

[@iputuwahyukusuma1270]

Approved

[@abhijitmandloi6302]

I said the same joke,but instead I said "Shanks", she knew the dishes were washed.

[@Dylan-np4oy]

@@abhijitmandloi6302don’t u have to be good at some point to be counted as washed

[@jaeinn2820]

NRG is the Valorant eSports depiction of every student at the start of the year versus a week before the exam starting. Doing rather bad at school in both cases, but at least they are locked in to at least try and pass.

[@jhakquezyx]

The only thing is they may not make it to play offs because of those 2 losses and now they can't lose a match if they do then their chances are really lost

[@AquaficMC]

n: not r: remaining g: gwashed

[@thenightjackal]

beautiful 😢

[@Kavyatej]

Nope, Really Grumpy

[@pkshd]

Now Really Godlike

[@magnumsoe]

not really good

[@tomd.treaty8752]

FNS' low frag games feel like they're casting a bronze make-a-wish kid living out his dying dream of playing a VCT match. Every kill he gets is met with unbridled shock. There he goes, little Pujan, playing from his hospital bed with the shaky 1K spraydown, a one-off, a miracle, the hand of god at work.

[@Solgrem]

This is insane 💀

[@ezkillz]

LMAO

[@CreeperawmanYT]

NRG would def qualified for playoffs if TMV oiled up (for real)

[@kyawlwinhein5245]

Most real thing I've ever read

[@butcherdesuyoi]

Maybe Chet haven't slept yet since Optic lost to LOUD with those eyes. That's why he's having these weird ass comp and terrible map ban and selection.

[@thrivinganarchy5267]

Acting like FNS has 0 power when it comes to comps and map bans lmao.

[@d4nkdesu]

Man has never slept since he was born

[@YesHelloKitty]

Oil Oil Oil 🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️

[@SplinxSyncs]

40 deathmatch matches in a row on a tuesday morning Pujan Masterclass

[@samuelmathew6228]

How to see his tracker

[@nonri500]

The Biden reference on FNS is criminal😂😂😂

[@miguesrt101]

I feel bad that Kru lost since they're my favorite team, but it's good to see NRG being somewhat back.

[@xanman2003]

I was genuinely getting worried we might not win a game this split. The fact that they're in contention, even with specific circumstances being required is amazing

[@0v3rK1llval]

The first round on lotus that you showed, NRG are actually completely setup for the c exec. They know Raze has ult so they’re trying to play back after the conditioning off Victor where he’s agressed DEEP through Mound and into spawn many round by now. With the Clove oneway at the start of the round it makes Sentinels cautious of pushing Mound early so Zekken decides to ult to clear but S0m is ready and is playing very far back. What throws off the round is the fade ult and smokes on B, and Johnqt throws a deadlock wall elbow. FNS can’t rotate off C to help his team in time so S0m peeks to try to get a pick before they finish walking through the door. 3 players are still holding him because the B pressure was fake. S0m dies, Sentinels start executing C BUT now Ethan can’t rotate fast enough from B to C because of the Deadlock wall and Cypher dies on site because of this. This was a great round by both teams but the deadlock wall elbow is the reason NRG lost.

[@hastyscorpion]

7:37 it makes a lot of sense. You just criticized them for banning haven and picking lotus. With very good reasoning. Haven is new back in the maps pool so teams have fewer reps on it. NRG recognized they made a mistake in the first series and corrected it.

[@m.rgamehub9378]

still there comp was...... i think sova or any other entry duelist would make this comp more competetive or you could also put fns on viper and have more stalling power.

[@lirinnaufal]

yeah recognized it but then proceeds to choose one of the most horrific comps you can have on a 3 site map. I love nrg and fns in particular but pretty sure he was on something when he decided this comp is what will defeat g2.

[@hastyscorpion]

⁠Both you guys are talking about the comp. That’s not what i am talking about. I am talking about how TMV says their bans are bad against sen and they should have picked Haven. And then says it doesn’t make sense that they picked Haven in their second series. Both things can be true. NRG should pick Haven AND NRG picked a bad comp on Haven.

[@Theo-bb6pn]

@@hastyscorpionthe problem is by the time they get to the G2 game, G2 has had wayyyy more time to scrim on haven than Sen had had. Not only that but the reason the picks don’t make sense together is because if you bring 2 new players in you’re gonna wanna know your map strengths and play to those *before your first actual pro game* - so to ban haven and then pick it but play it atrociously says ‘we don’t know what we’re doing’.

[@cassusgames]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Theo-bb6pnabout Haven, the relative amount of practice is still favorable to NRG compared to other maps. While G2 had more time to scrim on Haven since NRG’s game against SEN, NRG had the same amount of time, and so time passing doesn’t make it more unfavorable for NRG in the case of Haven. Instead, it’d be other maps that have been in the rotation like Lotus where other teams have had an entire season to scrim other maps. NRG would comparatively have much better odds on Haven, where the other teams would have had started scrimming only recently, like them. It’s like there’s a race track for Haven, and all the cars started at the same time. G2 has been going, but so has every other team including NRG, whereas every other map is a track that’s been going on for a while and NRG got plopped in just recently. If Haven was actually more favorable compared to other maps because of similar prep time, that would remain true now after some time, at least so long as NRG are still adjusting. This is in response specifically to the statement that “G2 has had wayyyy more time to scrim on Haven than Sen had had.”

[@SplinxSyncs]

FNS saw the reddit post about his aim and locked in

[@gamingghost2952]

CheT is close minded he , he did the same old sage comps in 2024 even tho it doesnt make any sense.

[@nathanielgomez8350]

We are in 2024?

[@Sddssjss]

@@nathanielgomez8350OP means that they are using old non meta sage comps in 2024 and it doesnt make sense

[@nathanielgomez8350]

@@Sddssjss Oh whoops misread that. M'bad G.

[@lilyng1097]

He probably just doesn’t care since he’s going back to CS anyway

[@ArJayDM]

If a lot of TMV criticism is on the comps and maps they chose for their first 2 games.. wouldnt that be on Chet? Isnt it the coaches job to make sure his team is playing / practicing correct agents / maps/ metas?

[@merlingaming6541]

chet is terrible

[@pulkitgupta5550]

Chet + vladkOr + tanzishq are the ones to be blamed + fns(partially)

[@Jamspen]

Def a coaching issue, he should be focusing on salvaging the rest of the season, not trying to make the meta

[@v12val]

thats what i was thinking. im usually one to defend chet (diehard optic fan) but usually the coach would come up with the team comp, or if it was fns, it would be chet’s job to tell him “hey this meta literally doesn’t work today.” unacceptable.

[@thrivinganarchy5267]

So what, FNS has 0 power in terms of comps and maps chosen? Lol.

[@Hello-wo4sx]

the key to them winning on ascent vs bind playing the old comps was that FNS and the optic core were there when both of those comps were created. they were a large part of why those comps were meta comps at the time (arguably top 3 teams for well over a year). the difference is one comp is still meta and one is not. of course they’ll still be one of the best teams on ascent running that comp.

[@calmcreeper1542]

Reyna better than another agent in pro play is actually wild, but it happened

[@dtp107]

I think if NRG played kj instead of cypher during map 1 gainst kru they would have done better since they would have more info. Cypher's cam is useful but i rather have kj turret watching an area as well as having molly that can help with post plus ur only losing the cage.

[@v12val]

finish the sentence 😡

[@dtp107]

@@v12val got u

[@Papi_C]

18:02 Not really apart of the analysis, but can I just say that we are so blessed to have Bren and Sideshow as commentators? Bren is genuinely elite at calling play-by-play, and Sideshow provides amazing analysis, as well as both of them being super funny. They’re literally my favorite commentating duo in ANY sport/esport. Absolutely love these guys.

[@v12val]

Another masterclass from Not Really Garbage E-sports edit: 19:42 the funny part is that this rarely even works in ranked any more

[@arnavdeo8435]

Fns actually said when the map came in that the meta comp will be fade breach cypher omen and raze

[@DrumMajorsAMM]

In regards to the haven comp, I was listening to two interviews, one with Crashies and one with Chet, where they talked about picking the comp. They talked about how they had faced a different team who was playing the comp and was caught off guard by the comp so they stole it. The other big takeway i got was Chet praising Clove as an agent I who excels at lurking with their smokes. Now I have my own personal opinions on the comp (certainly not defending it), but i just wanted to provide extra context to their haven pick.

[@Jamspen]

At that point why not just use cypher instead of clove on haven? He can psuedo smoke and he lurks AND he has map control?

[@arvy7765]

Well this aged like milk

[@sjfarias96]

Never thought id ever see tmv suggest Reyna over any other agent, yet here we are. Poor Clove.

[@remshi.]

On Haven, I don't understand why FNS didn't just put Vic on Cypher/KJ (or even Chamber) instead of Clove... He literally pioneered the double senti comp on Haven years ago, I could very well see a modernized version (with Deadlock) working very well in 2024. Baffling comp, but I'm so glad they've turned things around. Genuinely hoping for NRG to make playoffs, cuz FNS and s0m are very easy to root for :)

[@krimzin4523]

Chet makes most of the decisions for agent strategy and map pool since he’s the coach, but FNS has expressed in stream with som making victor and Ethan both flex so they can have more versatility agent wise

[@lancer7524]

for the map picks, i think they went based on scrim results

[@BVC279]

21:22 *Looking at you, PRX!*

[@lilyng1097]

That’s what I was thinking, “jinggg could do that”

[@andreasrosenmeier935]

One of the best TMV videos i have seen

[@quinn7467]

Is their bind comp the same as the one where ardiis trolled with his wall? Are they trying to redeem themselves lol

[@spidey7269]

19:40 why bro throwing his own team under the bus

[@NdreTtoJ]

So basically remove Chet…

[@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952]

I think on the Haven composition NRG really needed Victor on Neon instead of Clove.

[@saibotshawdow5090]

I fully believe the whole plan was since they didn’t have the experience of playing much with each other they didn’t believe they could win straight up to Sen and g2 so they decided to try to catch them off guard with different maps and unquie comp hoping to be able to anti strat what they seen from them with them having no info on nrg. Didn’t work but if so I understand why coming in as the underdog

[@ayayasussy3576]

tmv can you make a deep dive on what happen to navi like what are they doing wrong like is it postplant, midrounding or ect. like nothing change expected their coach which made them really awful after that change i know navi is not popular but i would appreciate it if you did made a video like i get why other good teams before are bad now like loud no duelist = bad, nrg shit comps = bad, like make sense but navi idk losing to koi and gx maybe gentle too is crazy as fpx enjoyer i'm pissed

[@213adora]

would love to see a video on heretics (please please please please)

[@dziugazz]

The Rise, The Fall and The Rise of NRG: TMV Edition

[@dq6845]

ooh thats quite fns ✨ thats quite nrg 💅

[@Orciwan548]

Kinda gotta wonder why are cloves smokes so short? It’s not like they recharge really quick and only two at a time. I feel like they could last as long as omen smokes and it wouldn’t even make the kit that much better.

[@cakey2097]

TMV really called their split comp a "this isn't you" ahh comp

[@ha4dy]

mta just came into KRU.. and they still lost a map.. NRG is not good

[@recoil5837]

Why would kru put mta back in midseason if they didn’t think he was good?

[@ha4dy]

@@recoil5837 i got no answer for u brother

[@wrekt2192]

​@@recoil5837 Cause they are reactionary. They win the game with Klaus considering it was a fairly close game between sen and kru when they played with klaus

[@gabrielcardoso5975]

som and fns just came into NRG... and they lost the series.. KRU is the worst team in the world

[@elbz1766]

​@@gabrielcardoso5975 The only way they won was because the new player Kru thought was good went 25/49 his teammate with the next less kills still has double digits over him??? They had less than a week with the new player and NRG still had to make a crazy comeback to actually win

[@whereami.]

TMV’s comment section lookin like the US out here

[@chandrasekhar-hi9uj]

NRG's analysts and coaching (to some extent) are dogshit this year for sure

[@timmynotjerry]

eh least they’re trying i guess. can’t really put all the blame on them when the schedule is shit

[@funkycrawler619]

The comp makes no sense with Clove specially for a map that is so BIG. Using Clove on a smaller map makes much more sense than a 3-site Map (which they did as well on Haven I think) in order to capitalize off of the smokes after Death. The haven comp even is odd cause none of the agents Synergize that well either with Deadlock's Seize or Clove's meddle (which while not the best still has combo potential).

[@Scourge-of-God]

TMV in shambles TL destroying KC 2-0, FNC is cooked next week, TL wins champs without dropping a map

[@antocherian5459]

The fact that they got some rounds with those comps in itself is an accomplishment 😂,now that i see this video i feel like they might have actually won if they played normally 😂,if they had switched to another agent than clove shit mightve been gud

[@alexpaul-px6ou]

it was 27 minutes of clove hating

[@oldman7408]

Bro have a personal vendetta against clove on proplay 😂

[@GabeRateliff]

I mean he is right. She is good in ranked though. Although I wish they would remove smokes after death

[@oldman7408]

@@GabeRateliff I believe in clove supremacy 🙏 she's gonna be strong in proplay, just not optimized by pro teams

[@krimzin4523]

@@oldman7408she has no utility for the team and her health is bad when pros have the best aim in the game, and the duration is relatively short with how slow pro play can be. Just not a good enough kit compared to omen who has arguable the best ability in the game with the paranoia

[@river.]

She has a deek

[@mscd3768]

Clove made no sense on haven. It had only one round of value (crashies defused cuz victor smoked him off in death)

[@VortexMagus]

I actually think NRG made an excellent showing against SEN. They were playing unconventional, experimental comps, had less than a month of practice together to make it work, and still almost took a map off the team that is either the best or second best in NA. Their showing against g2 was a lot more miserable, though. I also think clove is a bit underrated here. I do agree that her lack of range and lack of smoke uptime is a problem, but she is much better at entry than any other smoker is. If your comp only has one duelist and you need someone to go in with the duelist and open up space, sending in clove first or second, with her heal on kill and pseudo phoenix ult, makes a lot of sense to me. Even if she dies she can still apply her smokes to the field later. I think Harbor, Omen, and Viper all have their strengths in different situations, but I think if you just need someone to run in behind your duelist, Clove is by far the best controller for the job.

[@wrekt2192]

The reason they did well was I think because that was SEN first time playing against a neon in ages. Same with G2 their first match against C9 was scrappy. As time goes on they will look more dominant hopefully

[@YesImBraindead]

From FiNiShed to FiNiSher

[@notletfool2490]

I have an idea. Why don't yoou replace Chet and become coach for NRG Im not SAYING chet is bad but.. Im saying there is ideas you have that may be more useful for NRG roster

[@fuyunghay4214]

Let him cook

[@Notagenius106]

IMO, NRG should probably stick to the simplest comps in the game. Their comps are so random and difficult to play, I'm sure they will play better if they play with simple comps because they will understand how they should be playing.

[@skater4life237]

Wait, FNS is back?!

[@Kavyatej]

they were lacking in first blood conversion

[@OfficialKman5625]

Can we just sack Chet. I think FNS, Ethan, and s0m are the trio they need for sure. Vic and crashies are washed but I feel they still deserve a chance to prove themselves next game. Chet is just a fraud

[@mateolopez6205]

They stopped overcooking with their comps, that’s why

[@Bnji_]

21:06 fnc can pull off this comp its literally their comp with a neon for a raze

[@yup-ey2wq]

well

[@D1OSM1O]

cloves ult is only good in retakes imo

[@prakharchaurasiya8107]

The weird thing is FNS has talked about what the meta comps should be on a map like Bind and they are doing something different. So is he just not following his own advice?

[@user-eu9tl9ji2y]

Id argue sage is the worst agent in pro play

[@thrivinganarchy5267]

Congrats to NRG for beating a team that just made a roster change lol. C9 should slam them.

[@oscarvermeulen636]

not first

[@eyalav6293]

time for new video how karmine korp showed finally that they are super overated

[@brendo_ow9813]

Chet’s gotta retire man, that dude has more map veto fumbles than should be possible with a 10 game season 💀

[@ayanbahukhandi1869]

The only reason they won is because FNS was shooting back.

[@Dg_leitee]

How about you get oiled up

[@riceblunt7859]

lom

[@vhallis]

where oil?

[@rutial]

All this just to lose to a Chinese team in champs(if they qualify)

[@Venomx-nb1jr]

This is bait sir. Sen and G2 are top 3 in the world.

[@loma9423]

fkn lftist

[@TeqKHQ]

first

[@LighTY-]

S0men

[@notsoperfectdrummer]

Because they played a bad team? Lol

[@jomsolejo]

why is TMV always glazing NRG?

[@king_thanos_2116]

He doesn't glaze them He was literally saying this team if finished and that FNS might retire again in his podcast

[@hastyscorpion]

I am 45 seconds into the video. He just called their map veto against Sentinels “Horrific“ . Are you dumb?

[@jomsolejo]

@@king_thanos_2116 idk bro, everytime there's an NRG match, even if they lose the match itself, he still makes the video about NRG. Just for reference, the match against sentinels, was about NRG and not about SEN

[@ArJayDM]

He likes good Valorant strategy and FNS + NRG at least play Valorant the correct way in his eyes. Even if they don't always win. But I dont think he overly glazes them either

[@hastyscorpion]

I am 45 seconds in he just called their bans “ horrific”.