Why only a few will ever own one of the best Ev's ever made; Kia's EV6

Why only a few will ever own one of the best Ev's ever made; Kia's EV6
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[@stopthefomo]

I have it, wife loves it. We have the Wind AWD and in sunny California, we're getting just over 300 miles of range (at 100% when we need it) but the best part? FAST CHARGING, this thing charges fast and makes EV ownership very easy. My Volvo C40 charges slow and has a max range of just over 200 miles - yes, performance is fun and great, but I need to upgrade to something with an extra 50 miles of range next year, maybe the Ioniq 5N or wait for the Macan EV RWD which could have 350 miles of range!

[@winstoncat6785]

The Macan won't have 350 miles of range and we all know that!

[@Lifecoach7Ra]

Have also the Wind AWD with all in except sunroof and Meridian sound system because of our 🐕 After 54 years of mostly German ‚premium‘ this IS the first car ever with NO issues. TCO therefore fantastic. I drive mostly mountainous roads, German and Swiss Autobahn and short distances. Have also been tyre testing on race track to beat higher powered Alfa-Romeo Stelvio with 510 PS Ferrari engine but about the same weight. Ferrari 600 Nm mine 608 Nm of torque but only 333 PS. I do 0-100 km/h GPS in less than promised 5,2 seconds! 12500 km with 17,4 kWh per 100 km is par to Tesla but less than most others in its class. The 800 Volts system is highly efficient and fast charging goes up to 238 kW. The Taycan makes 270 kW. Lately they tested in the VAG ‚house news‘ AutoMotorSport where only German makes win tests the newest Audi Q4 e-Tron Sportback against Kia EV6 (about same waiting time of 12 months, got mine after 8 month which earlier was ‚normal‘ also for Germans not on stock cars. The Kia is exactly what we wanted and since May 2022 part of our fleet. The handling is on par with most BMW M-Sports made up by Albert Biermann who headed that division for 30 years. The design from Karim Habib is outstanding from the now boring SUV crowd for Nokia and Motorola users. So we are definitely owning an exclusive care to be compared with early Pininfarina Ferrari and famous Lancia. This is something for consisseurs that have had all kind of nice cars and it makes fun not only on straight roads and there is no noise whatsoever and space like in an S-class Mercedes but at one third of the price!😎🇨🇭

[@ArmageddonIsHere]

1. No tax rebates any more 2. No availability; waitlist is months long. N O T H A N K S !

[@hugegamer5988]

When our house lost power for almost two days I reversed the plugging in by using the inverter and running and extension cord to my refrigerator. Even at 50% the battery would last weeks of only powering the fridge.

[@volcalstone]

The 5N will not have 350 miles of range either. I got the EV6 GT as I don't care too much about range. I live in N Cali so the weather is super nice. I don't have to deal with the cold. If I'm not driving like crazy then I could get around 250 miles city driving. I do want to swap out my rims and tires to 19" instead for more range eventually. Honestly if I could get 250 miles of highway driving then I'm good. This is the amount of miles I could take before I have to take a break. 😊 Love your channel btw. ❤ I didn't know you owned an EV until now. Btw I got the GT instead of the 5N cause it has more features that I wanted in a car like an opening sunroof and rear heated seats. I could care less about the rear shades as I'm planning to tint the back darker anyways. 😊

[@Beatles4Sale.]

You have hit the mark several times! No one is ramping up car manufacturing because they are all losing money except BYD and Tesla! Right? Until these companies can control costs along with their supply chain things will not change. But they will change! ❤️❤️❤️

[@victorpopurhedoff8828]

I have had my 2023 EV6 for 4 months now and love it. I ordered it early last year and I am glad I waited for it. Lots of great tech, great acceleration and good range. Loving it.

[@borshardsd]

Great! Hopefully tesla charging network opens up and you will be unstoppable 🙏 I hope my first non tesla ev is a canoo truck

[@Mr.Relaxed]

I owned the EV6 GT Line for 4 months, but actually had some engine trouble. No OTAs in such a new car, is terrible. Its a Wonderful looking car and good to drive, but I ended up, for now, with Tesla YP..its far ahead on all levels

[@Bebela1ms]

⁠@@Mr.Relaxedwhat kinda of engine trouble did you have with you Ev6? Kia didn’t cover you?

[@Mr.Relaxed]

@Bebela1ms Kia helped of course, but got Engine Failure on 2 long trips with family, and car had to be towed away..car suddenly just died, with no warning and couldn't do anything. After that I had it for another month untill it happened again in middle of highway..That's when I later lifted the buy and got all money back, since they couldnt fix problem apparently..Probably I was extremely unlucky, but it was what it was

[@barrysrobbins]

@@Mr.RelaxedI didn't realise Kia made an EV6 with an 'engine' - don't you mean 'electric motor'?

[@jeanmiegoiste]

Owning it, driven more than 60 k KM. I must admit that I never had a better car before. Had not a single issue (fail). The problem is the price and the delayed production. In France, I was able to buy an LR RWD mid trim EV6 (early buyer, the car was delivered during december 2021) for only 38400€ VAT included. The price was only for pros. The non pro price was more about 47k €. That was a very good deal. Today, I'd have to pay 16000 € more, for the exact same car. That's a shame. Kia dealers barely have demo cars in the showroom, trying to sell something else... The ride is fantastic, the leg room is the same as in a large limousine (back seats). No apparent degradadtion, really good range, really good tires (Nexen, changed at 60 000km in the back, still running the originals front tires) amazing charging performance that kills Audi, Tesla and VW drivers at Ionity HPC stations and even a lot of improvement provided by kia during those 15 months own. Was able to drive 800km in one day, easily. Was able to tow a small folding caravan too, and drive 240km with a fully loaded car, and be able to arrive at 40% SOC at destination. I was very impressed. The infotainment should be far better, but if you're looking for a really really good car to drive, the EV6 is the one. Is Kia losing money like Ford or VW do on each sell? Don't know, but it is a shame that Hyundai/Kia Cie, one of the EV pioneers is doing it this way. What is the plan?

[@jamesthompson7282]

"Is Kia losing money like Ford or VW do on each sell?" Every EV manufacturer not called Tesla is losing thousands on the sale of every EV they make. That'd include Hyundai/Kia. Those two firms may in fact be closest to producing at break-even but it isn't clear: they don't break out production costs by model & their financials are beyond opaque: Korean accounting requirements aren't the same as US ones & large Korean firms (Hyundai & Samsung especially) wield considerable political clout, may well be circumventing such rules as exist. Probably not as big a risk for foreign investors as China but definitely not comparable to EU or N America (neither of which are perfect, though). Ford has finally admitted it loses $60K on the sale of every Mustang EV. Its experience is probably indicative of the rest. BYD claims it only loses $5K/EV, but Chinese financial reporting is considerably more opaque & unreliable than anywhere else (including Korea), so we shouldn't put too much stock in their published figures. If losing money on every EV they build we shouldn't be surprised that EV manufacturers aren't scaling production fast. First step is to figure out how to design & construct an EV that CAN be built for a profit. THEN they need to figure out how to actually scale production, recognizing that profits will only come with volume. So, 1) EV manufacturers will be - for some time - producing short-run EVs to establish that they're doing SOMETHING, and to retain what market share they can. But since these will be short-run models built on the journey to figure out EV design & production, their buyers will find they've purchased experiments that won't be well-supported by dealers & manufacturers - assuming both dealers & manufacturers survive. 2) EV manufacturers can't compete financially with Tesla until they are producing in similar volumes. Tesla is relentlessly pushing down cost of production per Wright's Law. Other manufacturers will have to follow suit. 3) Competitors are NOT going to be able to catch up with Tesla. That last claim needs an explanation. In a normal market, if one competitor gets the leap on the rest & is able to produce at lower cost, they tend eventually to simply adsorb increased profits (which then get passed on to owner/shareholders & employees). For example, Mars is infinitely more profitable than Hershey, but it doesn't keep growing & growing, it has long ago settled down into enjoying its profits & maintaining market share. P&G is significantly more profitable than its rivals, but that simply means shareholders do well. Apple continues to grow but profits (well above market standard) are now passed back to shareholders in dividends & buy-backs. In all the industries referenced there are high-profit & low-profit competitors. Tesla has no intention of following standard practice. It isn't in business to generate profits, to produce dividends or provide stock buy-backs to investors. It aims to be profitable to achieve the Mission. The Mission was published in 2006: www.tesla.com/blog/secret-tesla-motors-master-plan-just-between-you-and-me#:~:text=So%2C%20in%20short%2C%20the%20master,an%20even%20more%20affordable%20car Tesla exists to change energy use, reducing fossil fuel use by the human race. One third of fossil fuel use powers transportation; one third powers utility electricity generation. Tesla's EVs will promote electricity to fuel transportation; its residential solar products & utility power storage products will reduce fossil fuel use in utility power generation. Tesla hasn't departed from the published Plan since 2006. It won't. That means it will keep relentlessly driving down the cost of transportation, first by continuously reducing the purchase price of EVs (which it has done) & second by reducing the overall size of the EV market (per capita) by introducing robotaxis and running a world-wide taxi service, so fewer people will purchase a car at all. None of this is good for the competition. Tesla won't drop the price to buy market share, then just milk it for profit. If they did that, other manufacturers could eventually catch up. Meanwhile they'd make less profit than Tesla but perhaps survive. Tesla won't stop dropping the price, which means competitors face a Sisyphean task: by the time they catch up with where Tesla was in 2020 (by 2025), Tesla will be light years ahead in production & selling cars for even less. Tesla isn't trying to crush the competition. Musk has bent over backwards to help them: published his Plan & strategy back in 2006; been quite open & transparent about it since. Encouraged competitors to use his Patents, saying Tesla wouldn't stop anyone from using its IP. Encouraged battery manufacturers to produce Tesla's own 4680 batteries for competitors (provided supply to Tesla doesn't suffer). He's even directly advised Boards of Directors of competitors (eg. VW) when given the chance. Tesla has no incentive to crush competitors. The firm is growing as fast as it can. Its goal is to change energy use planet-wide: it can't do that on its own. It'll accomplish this Mission in part by encouraging other firms to follow suit. Not Tesla's problem if they can't, or won't. Until now it is obvious that they wouldn't. Now they've (finally) realized if they don't follow Tesla they're toast. It remains to be seen how many will be able (at this late date) to follow Tesla successfully. If they fail (most will) then new firms will take their place. Market demand will be there. It's highly unlikely most existing car manufacturers will be. ___________________ Pleased to hear about your experience with Kia's EV. I put considerably more faith in Kia/Hyundai surviving than any of the Japanese manufacturers (& I'm a very satisfied Subaru owner). If any of them survive I'd bet it'll be Hyundai. But I wouldn't bet money on it. Problem is, ANY car buyer is betting money on the outcome of the current market struggle. And a car is the second-largest purchase most people ever make (house mortgage is #1). At least a mortgage purchases something that (you hope) will appreciate over time: you're unlikely to lose money on it. A car is a depreciating asset, you lose no matter what.

[@Lifecoach7Ra]

@@jamesthompson7282 Ford has just another problem over here e.g. Switzerland. They have cars in stock nobody wants. It makes a difference when Hyundai/Kia/Genesis are considered. The Ioniq 5 you get around 6 mo, the GV60 in about 4 to 8 mo and the Kia EV6 between 6 to 12 mo. Flexible customers can get these car up to the GT without too much delay and about same to mostly others. Just Tesla can shorter now from Gruenheide. But Mach-e Model 2022 you get in 10 days. With all German brands, Polestar/Volvo, Aiways, MG the situation is very similar. So hard to say if it’s Ukrainian war, China‘s battery supplies or real financial problems. Fact is that also in most markets ICE stock is important also now after China wants the Euro 7-Norm. All ICE still hope together with big oil to change wind for some time. All these strategies are more or less politically motivated but transition takes place and some will be winners and others losers! China however is over all in bad shape economically and Russia will not safe all of their production. But they fully replaced EU brands. So the cards will be newley mixed and we will see by 2030 who still is on board. Tesla for sure because their business is not really cars. So this is the only company using batteries from at least four companies now including structural packs from BYD. Their ‚masterplan‘ is from another planet! Today only at Hyundai group, NIO, Geely and BYD I see a similar level of motivation, so let us see what happens! 🤔

[@drsilkman]

The main issue with the KIA EV6 GT is actually finding one as you stated. My son was very fortunate and the dealer, here in Adelaide, had the RWD version in black. Not cheap, but goodness me - this is a ripper of a car and a head turner on the road. Beautifully appointed, very comfortable and it drives extremely smooth with power to spare. A lot of thought has gone into this EV. I do agree - more need to be produced because every batch sells out. It is the perfect car to transition into, if this is your first EV - on the inside, it is very reminiscent of a conventional ICE car - except you feel like your in a space craft cock pit. An awesome effort 👍

[@hugegamer5988]

We had to wait 6 months and never got the one we ordered, just close enough.

[@leahy202]

Living in Ireland and bought my ev 6 January 2022 I have it year and 4 months. Love the car drives so well it is my fourth electric car and by far the best car I’ve ever owned. My first ev was the Hyundai ioniq then the kona then the Kia e Nero all of these cars were realy good but the ev6 been built ground up as an ev is the reason I bought this car and boy it wasn’t a letdown

[@wowlsj]

I've had my AWD Wind since April 2022, absolutely live the car. Last month I sold my Porsche Boxster BECAUSE I NEVER DRIVE IT NOW! Crazy! This EV6 is the best car I've ever owned. Equal parts luxury car and sports (GT) car. I drove almost all of its competitors before driving it, and bought on that same day - even paid a premium, which I'd never done. Viking is correct on relative scarcity. I live in the DMV (DC metro area) with some of the richest communities in the country (saw a Rolls Royce Wraith next to me on my way to buy my dogs food yesterday, and I see literally 1 a quarter in this area. I don't know anyone else who has one, while my neighbor to the left has a tesla and to the right the Mercedes EQS. Strange maybe Kias strategy was to build it out as a compliance car. I heard they lose money on each one sold. Glad I bought it.

[@1palieter]

39 months waiting list in Belgium

[@Kellric7]

mine has arrived after 8 months !

[@Bobdibob]

12 months in Poland. Luckily we picked up a completed, but uncollected car from a warehouse over the other side of the country in the colour we wanted and at almost an identical spec, in 4 weeks.

[@dengsekawasaki4144]

Got my awesome EV6 last week and i love it. Waited 16 months on it! I also think the issue is the price hike that suddenly came out of nowhere (i spoke to my dealership and ALOT of people who ordered the EV6 have cancelled their order due to the price hike) and and on top of all this, crazy long delivery time.

[@Bebela1ms]

Who’s the charging ? Are u doing home charging? Hope you’re liking your Ev6

[@tomgroszek1933]

I just leased a 24 Long Range EV6. Love it. Getting around 340 miles of range with conservative driving. Nice interior and well equipped for just $204/month. Can’t beat that. Here in California all you see is the fugly Teslas, so being different is not that bad. Highly recommend.

[@david.e.h.]

I have a Kia EV6 GT Line RWD. It's a great little car, drives great, nice interior, interior screen, semi-self diving too. I've owned and BMW i3 Rex and a Chevy Bolt EUV Launch Edition with Super Cruise.

[@igotheals]

I picked up my EV6 GT-Line back in January, and I can't believe how much I love this car. I've got so many compliments from random people wanting to know what kind of KIA this is! I feel like the Hyundai cars got way more press and attention from the vehicle press, and so that may have helped depress sales. They were super easy to find here in the States, and I'm so happy I got this instead of the Ioniq 5!

[@bobstevenson4396]

Received my 2023 EV6 AWD GT-line in February after waiting 11 months, have already placed a deposit with my dealer for a 2024 EV9 AWD awaiting pricing and trim specifications. Expect long delivery times for the EV9 also here in BC Canada. I believe the Kia Niro EV and Kia Soul EV have similar delivery issues.

[@ASIANFOODDOWNUNDER]

Cant buy whats not available and it costs significantly more than comparable Tesla Y LR and ioniq5 epiq

[@Yubuzka3774]

I have one since September 2022 and had an Ioniq 5 and a model 3 before that. This is by far the best.

[@AndyM...]

Well, luckily I was one of the 8% in April, picked up my RWD EV6 after more than a year wait....loving it, no regrets at all !!!

[@marcelleking8821]

I ordered mine in the UK beginning July and it was on the boat 4 days later. GTline S RWD. It’s the best car I’ve ever owned, and I just am in love with it. Can’t see me ever driving anything else…like the fact you don’t see many unlike Teslas. I had a 22 Sportage PHEV and loved it until there was one around every corner a year later.

[@OleIChristensen]

I'm quite certain that the real problem here, is the long delivery period. I've read a lot of posts on SoMe, where a lot of people actually have ordered a EV6, but cancelling the order due the extremely long delivery time. That's the only reason. Most of the people actually wants a EV6 the most, but often they turn their eyes to Tesla instead, who delivers in 14 days. So, it's not because the EV6 doesn't have a huge sale potential - Kia sadly just can't deliver.

[@mikecoffeen7991]

I have one and I love it. It was my third EV and I hope to drive it for 10 years.

[@GiovannaAnnette]

I own a 2023 WIND AWD EV6 and LOVE IT! I might be in a minority here…I was looking for an EV, walked into a dealership on a Tuesday and purchased it that Thursday. I bought it in February, I live in New Jersey. There were incentives to buy EVs at that time, and I went all in. 💙💙💙💙

[@driftlessheights6177]

Early adopters always want t new one. I bought a 2022 Kia EV6 Wind AWD with 18,000 miles last month. It has the tech package. I love it!. This original sticker price was $55,000 US. I paid $35,000. So forget the tax rebate, I saved $20,000 and it looks like new. The software update makes it identical to the 2024 model. l. Level two charger in my garage brings it from 20 to 80 percent in 4 hours, but I only have to charge it once a week. Only minus is that we are in 0 degrees F. temperatures now in Minnesota, so getting 2.3 miles / kwh. Can't wait for summer and take this fun car on the road!

[@steve5090406]

Like most brands, the early models are supposed to be technology demonstrators, to prove that they are up to the challenge, and to stop their customers going away to other brands, but until they can get their supply chains set up, these will be simply for show and they will make a loss on each and every one. The assumption is that the loses will be overshadowed by the brand awareness.

[@adisurd]

Live in Netherlands. In March I was looking for an ev. On the website I configured an EV6. Expected delivery date was December 23 2023. I’m not going to wait 9 months for one when Tesla was offering a 3000 euro discount and a 9 days delivery window

[@royborgersen8092]

Tested it today after watching this video. Here you can get one without waiting. Great to drive, although not as fun to drive as Xpeng P7, that I tested two days ago. It was awesome to drive! But the trunk is more practical, and it's possible to get one with a tow bar, which is sadly not possible on the P7. Two of the most interesting cars in this price range, I think.

[@bigdi77]

I have the gt and love it very fast and it’s a big head turner

[@Lifecoach7Ra]

Absolutely agree with you but the story of compliance car is not true for any market. Kia is just in production hell like Elon once said and they will ramp up production when markets are calming down somewhat, now it’s a hype to get one first and that already started with iPhone and Tesla. Here in Switzerland you can get even GTs in around 6 to 12 months. I ordered my EV6 AWD Wind all in, just without sunroof and Meridian Soundsystem in september 2021 and got it may 2022. Now after 12‘000 km with every profile in, the car used 17,4 kWh on 100 km and I have been on track days for tyre testing. Absolutely no problems neither in cold weather and snow. It shows the drivability of former M-Sports BMW what is due to Albert Biermann who headed the division for 30 years. And also first time in a German autotest the Kia completely burnt the all new Audi Q4 E-Tron Sportback by far. You must know that Auto Motor Sport is kind of ‚in-house‘ newspaper to Volkswagen group and always found ways to have a German ‚winner‘! You should also know that I owned mostly German ‚Premium‘ for 54 years and the Kia was the first that in one year was only 30 Minutes at a service center to change wheels. Hope now only on some improved software for charge planning similar to Tesla and that is all. The rest is just sensational TCO and absolutely no noises from drivetrain. Very spacious interior in its class and better than an EQE350, costing three times as much with all in. 800 Volts system and fast charging at up to 240 kWh (Tesla MY now 250 and Porsche Taycan 270 kWh). Measured power higher than promised with 333 PS and 608 Nm and 5,0 Seconds to 100 km and it corners like a smaller sportscar. It’s absolutely fun and only the GT (585 PS) or Ioniq 6 could top it. It’s for me also different from Tesla in things that are very important to me, but I am a shareholder of TESLA anyhow. So fanboys have to accept that I just liked the absolutely gorgeous design from Karim Habib more and the car reminds me to ones of my favorite classic cars when boring SUV boxes where not known yet and cars had ‚fluid‘ forms. It’s the heritage of some of the best from Pininfarina, Ferrari, Lancia, Alfa-Romeo Montreal, Jaguar E-Type and also some remarkable BMW. So the circle closes unlike no other and I am proud to be considered as ‚VIP‘!😂🤔🇨🇭

[@paulhetherington969]

I’m one of the ‘lucky persons’. 1 year ownership. And it’s by far the best car I’ve ever owned.

[@nics9840]

I live in a regional town in NSW somehow I see two ev 6’s quite regularly which when given how relatively few EVs there are around here 2 Tesla model 3s, 2 MG ZS EVs (I’m one of the MG owners) 1 BYD and 2 EV 6s (one I know is owned by a bloke in town) is not an insubstantial number and when talking with one of the owners apparently the wait list is 6-7 months. So it doesn’t appear to be doing too badly.

[@Kellric7]

Very interesting... I have a EV6 GT on order, it was expected to be delivered mid 24, and it's already here, the dealer doesn't know why it's so quick ! Funny thing is that I currently have an I-Pace, and now that the EV6 GT is there, I have to sell it... and of course as you said, no one wants an I-Pace now. So I'll probably end up cancelling the GT and keeping my I-Pace, strange times to try to buy a car :o

[@gareththomas5062]

Love my EV6 RWD, had it since Oct 22.. Best car I've ever had by far and eclipses my past Range Rover and BMW - reason for low take up is low availability. I asked the dealer just last week what is current waiting time on the GT (I'm in West Aust)- he said 2 years and the RWD as per mine - 20 months minimum. Who would wait that long.

[@Chainyanker007]

Wanna be owners of the Cybertruck have waited for much longer.

[@Kellric7]

Got my GT after 8 months ;)

[@VerticalBlank]

I ordered an EV6 in the UK end of March 2022, only now am I getting an estimated delivery date in June 2023.

[@cordkretzschmar5693]

I bought one and love it. But i had to wait a long time. I would buy it again every time, it was worth waiting.

[@speksih]

I'm on my 2nd EV6 now. First was RWD GT-Line and new one is GT. Love the car from most parts, but I D don't love the crappy FM-radio and dated UI.

[@monkeysezbegood]

My mate has an EV6. Its great.

[@businesscorporation2735]

That’s crazy people are waiting for it , there’s so many of ev6’s in lots at every dealer

[@TheJiggs666]

My sister in law just picked one up, extremely impressive vehicle.

[@jaymac4448]

As someone purchased an EV6 last month in the US, I can see some additional things here that is hurting it. The first being the perception of kia/hyundai vehicles being easy to steal. Given the kia boys viral challenge. The other is that it seems the government is targeting these certain tesla competitors with the tax credit requirements. It's really a shame. But I do feel like I'm in an exclusive club though.

[@Bebela1ms]

Hey I’m curious to know, are you enjoying you Ev6? What do you like the most and what u dislike? I’m thinking about getting one soon. Just not sure about the while charging thing yet. Any recommendations

[@jaymac4448]

@Bebela1ms I love it. All the worries that you hear day to day means zero to me. I've got a 48A charger at home. I like the more sports car feel from the suspension/road feedback. It's just enough. Now the only issue that I have is the sometimes rattle from the vent flaps behind the rear wheels. That's it.

[@devongee1776]

Driving one of these truly does feel at least a tinge special. I can anecdotally attest to this video: to this day, having had my EV6 for it's third year, never seen a like model in my city and of the ones I have seen, one might've been a one-time occurrence, as I saw that car at the local hospital and never once again. Likewise, the other EVs seem to be a plentiful around here. I can count on seeing at least half a dozen Ford Mach-E's. Similar number of I.D.4's. And the number of Tesla M3 and MY's are even further staggering. What's peculiar is that the EV6 is better than the Mach-E in many ways. They're quicker (albeit the horsepower numbers wouldn't depict that), they're cheaper, they have 1-pedal driving and they get more range and they charge exponentially faster on CCS+ . Call me biased, but I also think they're far better looking, too. Mach-E looks like what your high school football team captain looks like 20 years later. People really slept on this car and many went out and paid the same money or more, for worse options. I think the reason the sales figures and production numbers dropped IS due in part to the fact that yes, they don't technically qualify for the $7500 tax credit given that they aren't manufactured here in the USA. After being handed that handicap by the U.S. federal government, it makes sense for Kia to have slowed in sales/production or both.

[@Chainyanker007]

Sounds great but does it have frequent OTA software updates? While I don’t drive long distance much here in the US the reliance on non-Supercharger charge stations would give me some charge anxiety. Anyone have much experience with charging while going cross country using other than Tesla’s Supercharger network?

[@EvendimataE]

i like the ev6....body style is beautiful

[@RedSinter]

Hey Sam, that Kia Strategy is mind boggling, if not insane. What head of any serious car manufacturer would last 10 minutes in a Share Holder meeting before having his head or his ass handed to him. You realize the expense of tooling and assembly necessary to make a car that you have no interest in not only not making, but likely you may not be making back your investment. I wish I had that kind of money to burn.

[@johnyoung9649]

I just checked my local Kia dealer. They supposedly have 10 of them. Their price is $10k above sticker, from $58k to $78k. And they may be great cars, but they still won't have the Supercharger network.

[@Snowdudee]

I waited only 7 months for it 🤩

[@robertregan2305]

CAN I SAY I JUST ORDERED MY EV6 AWD 325BHP IN BLACK ⚫️ IN JUNE LAST MONTH AND BEEN TOLD I WOLL RECEIVE IT IN SEPTEMBER AS BLACK AND RED ARE ON PRODUCTION MADE ALREADY SO I MUST BE LUCKY IF THATS THE CASE AS I AM HEARIN PEOPLE WAITING AS FAR AS 12 TO 18 MONTHS ????? HOPE MY SEPTEMBER WILL BE SEPTEMBER 🙏 🙏

[@chrisbell5248]

Had mine for nearly 2 years now and there is not a car out there to complete with it, and that's before you take into account its fast rapid charging.

[@alibro7512]

I know a guy in UK gave up waiting for his after nine months and bought a VW ID5. Electric Viking 100% correct Kia could sell ten times the number if they built them but as South Korea pushing Hydrogen along with Japan they choose not to build them.

[@mcrkon]

Such a great compliance vehicle. 😢

[@AhBeeDoi]

I've seen a few Ioniq 5s, the cousin car to the EV6, but not many EV6s. I do think it looks odd and it may be the reason the take rate is lower than the Ioniq 5 which looks very good to my eye. Losing the tax credit in the US doesn't help at all.

[@jonitan76]

ioniq 5 in indonesia took 2 years to deliver, and still not many of them recieved it yet

[@meersde]

I am not surprised. From a European perspective: Hello Kia, bring out a car with the performance of the EV6/EV5, but as a hatchback or at least under 4.3m in length. Otherwise you'll be surprised what happens when the Tesla M2 comes on the market.

[@WiljanWiljan]

Great car but in The Netherlands the EV6 GT line has a price of about 62000 euro. That's 10k to high !

[@GetHimChicklet]

We ordered and received our Kia EV6 GT-Line here in Florida in August 2022, just in time to get the tax incentive which helped as it’s the most we’ve spent on a vehicle ever! Have to say that we love it and all the tech features which is saying something for being in our 60’s! It’s the most fun we’ve had to drive, we only wish we sat up a little higher like a regular SUV. For only this reason, we may look at trading it in for the EV9 when they are being built here in the US so it hopefully will qualify for the tax incentives/rebate. We do love that you don’t see many on the road like you do Tesla’s so it’s a unique experience for sure. It is great that Tesla started to get the ball rolling for EV’s, just not a fan of Elon Musk though!😅

[@MrEd2291]

Production in volume so your car is not as rare as hen's teeth is important. So is having a reliable available charging network. This is an ad for Tesla for those who investigate.

[@Bemx2k]

I wish to see KiA EV6 with 100kWh battery nett

[@geert5811]

It was on top of my list, but had to wait 30 months (in Belgium), so no thanks ... g.

[@Paul-cj1wb]

There's only one thing that has kept the EV6 selling like crazy is cost. Bring the GT line (not the GT itself) cost down to the US $40,000 area to compete with the lower cost Model Y, and it'll sell like hotcakes. Okay, there's actually a second: both the EV6 and the high price (for the low range) E-Pace have a massive handicap vs Tesla -- dealers. Take those out of the picture and it's a different story.

[@joshuarosen465]

Hyundai sold about 23K Ionic 5s in the US last year, that's not completely embarrassing but it's certainly underwhelming. Maybe they are prioritizing Hyundai's over Kia. It would be interesting to know what the real reason for them producing so few is. Is their cost of production way too high for them to make a profit. Are Korean battery manufacturers incapable of supplying their needs. It certainly hasn't been smooth sailing for LG, after their fiasco with both Hyundai and Chevy perhaps they are unwilling to make further investments in battery production.

[@greghudson9717]

Hyundai & Kia need to stop buying batteries from Korean companies and start getting them from CATL or BYD. The EV 6 GT line here in Australia is AU$88k drive away (Inc all taxes etc). Compare that to the Model Y SR which is AU$74k drive away. The Tesla is a no brainer, even if it is ugly, and the interior looks like is was designed by the children of IKEA workers. Note: I am a TSLA shareholder, and own a Tesla Powerwall battery and a Model Y. Rumor has it there is a new battery coming for the Kia that is 50% bigger, and has even better range - hopefully LFP with a price reduction...

[@IoniqIonityIonna]

LFP is nothing except cheap. Energy density is low and range is disaster in cold region.

[@IoniqIonityIonna]

​​@@greghudson9717Korean batteries are way better than Chinese batteries. Tesla is No.1 technology so can use LFP to reduce cost. Unlike Tesla, others should use Korean batteries if they want to maintain specs.

[@greghudson9717]

@@IoniqIonityIonna Have you not heard of LFP batteries? Nearly all of them are made by chinese CATL or BYD. They are less energy dense but are also like 1000 times safer in that it is virtually impossible to get them to catch on fire (unlike NMC batteries used by almost everyone else - including Tesla in Long Range and Performance models))

[@greghudson9717]

@@IoniqIonityIonna Show me your evidence of BYD's with LFP catching fire. Petrol, Hybrid and non LFP sure, but LFP???

[@RedSinter]

My Landlords mother has one she loves it.

[@ATCustoms87]

Honestly the EV6 in my county "Malaysia" is way too expensive. Its more expensive then a EQA here. I will just hold on to my Hybrid till EV price comes further down closer to CIvic price

[@justanotherguy7798]

First off there is only one factory for the whole world that makes the ev6 so world wide supply is understandably low. Had my 2022 ev6 AWD with tech package and love it in every way, charging, acceleration, ride quality, and so good looking. I had to pay $5000 over sticker. It did include a level2 charger, all-weather mats, window tint, and life long free maintenance. There are several Kia dealers in the Phoenix area that have EV6s in stock but are still trying to rape their customers over sticker price, and with the tax break gone unless you lease this is probably one reason sales have slowed down not because the car isn’t in demand. Kia needs to do what Ford is doing with their greedy dealers and shut that crap down. I’m not sure what compliance means but I see several on the roads in my area and once their factory is up and running in the US that will loosen up the supply.

[@chrismd00]

They just don’t want to sell them. You ask dealerships and they don’t even expect to get ONE!

[@NickGreenDC]

Minimum two year wait in Canada. Same with Hyundai models. USA has Ioniq 5's sitting on lots, with two year waits just north of the border. Makes no sense

[@JohnSmith-pn2vl]

this is surprising, i always thougt this and ionic are the best after Tesla.

[@lassewestvanghougaard4856]

same as for lithium battery manufacturing. Either they don’t have a price competitive car that is domestically produced.. Or they simply can not make them quick enough. Or they simply can’t get the parts for the EV’s because everyone is trying to gather the EV instruments that have a reputation of being of high quality. And if you depend on others to make parts for your car then the car can’t be made.. it’s that simple…

[@buixote]

So... replacement parts? Another Rivian Repair Video? ;-) Is the eSoul in the same class (i.e. non-production model)

[@cheesun124]

Media does not like EVs

[@intheknow6499]

Australia’s EV6 supply is actually increasing constantly, but the global vehicle shipping crisis is compounded by the MASSIVE port issues in Melbourne due to tens of thousands of cars caught up in quarantine hell, resulting in almost no cars getting through. It’s nothing to do with falling demand. Exactly the opposite.

[@alf699]

Boy, I hope not. Ours is hitting the Port on the 13th November this year.

[@willchu]

It starts at $50K in Canada. Most people won't pay that for a KIA. 💩

[@AvocadoAtrocity]

Who in their right mind would spend $50,000 on a KIA? A Hyundai? 🤣

[@DavGreg]

Kia thinks it can move upmarket with the reskinned Hyundais they sell. Maybe they will appeal to the same people who are attracted to the hideous Cadillac EV, but not any serious upmarket brands. In the US Kias are known for being seen dead on the side of the road, common in and around the hood and commonly stolen and taken for joyrides by bored teens. They generally have the resale value of used toilet paper.

[@mackan7086]

​​@@AvocadoAtrocity would spend $50K on a really good car regardless of brand. I wouldn't spend it though on a shitty car from a "nice" brand

[@joejones6968]

Somebody done tore off and lied to you. Kia is doing very well, and make an excellent product, that is highly competitive.​@DavGreg

[@Angusoksen]

I am so frustrated with the Hyundai car group lack of EV ambitions. They make the next best EVs next to Tesla but won't make enough cars. It is a really sad story with the EGMP car deliveries. the same story with the Hyundai Ioniq 5! they haven't really ramped up the production of Ioniq 5 or Kia EV6 even though the waiting list is Huge and people wait up to 2 years for ther I5/EV6!!

[@strangefire2024]

well, it may be one of the best EVs, but because it is rare, good luck in finding parts for repair and maintenance. and we all know that with EVs today, regular updates are absolutely essential. i seriously doubt if Kia would bother to spend millions to maintain the software for a soon to be discontinued model.

[@jamesgreenwood6733]

We had had our Nissan Leaf 40kW for 5 years now. Never felt the need to update it (can't do it over the air anyway), hardly bothered to service it. Changed tires finally. Nothing else. Nada. We're thinking of changing finally, but my wife is cautious about what can be better, and would never go back to ICE car.

[@michaeloreilly657]

5th best selling EV in Ireland so far in 2023. 3rd best selling for all 2022. ????

[@pipersall6761]

Such a shame. You would think in the light of its awards that Kia would ramp up its production.

[@tellyboy17]

Might have mentioned that this is a $50K car.

[@tonyjohannes2286]

100k in australia

[@fatdoi003]

EV6 definitely costs more to make than to sell.... whoever got one should feel very lucky

[@charlesrovira5707]

The problem is that the *_Kia EV 6_* will never be a volume production car. Thank the production technique for that...

[@christopherbeyer7740]

Much better looking in real life

[@kalmmonke5037]

i suppose best balance of all values of crash saftey, affordability, emissons, freedom to productivity and ownership of its benefits, is: gordon murray istream 25k mass production sub 2000 lb semi forged recycled carbon fiber rollcage core, lotus elise sort of rear mid engine subcompact 4 seater where the rear seat faces the rear, for areoydynamic momentum perservation especially without power for longevity of fuel, battery, engine, lubrication, etc. even powering around a turn may use the same tire wear and braking and accelerating again. no crankshaft electro hydrallic pneumatic valve actuator like konigsegg freevalve flat 2 "fric" suspension and variable vane electric motorized and exhuast turbo , subaru wrx cvt ,mahle non magnetic electric drive only and manual steering after 5 mile per hour so my the normie (my grandma) will drive it with software switch for more power steering. people can rent bigger vehicals if needed, roof storage etc can help.

[@greghudson9717]

You appear to be unaware that this is a EV / Solar / whatever channel. Go rave about your ICE bullshit somewhere else.

[@gzcwnk]

How many ppl can really afford a new luxury segment BEV? few, so indeed only a few will ever own them.

[@costiqueR]

The production hell, or how to make the best car and not sell it because they are losing money... Was this a niche, "Ferrari" contest? Nope? As usual, media sucks... and this is why I do not read them anymore...

[@PaleBlueDotCitizen]

Your evaluation of the EV6 and everthing is severely less valuable since you announced that you consider a scammy perpetual motion machine might be genuine. Sorry, still love your channel though, I watch all your videos, most are excellent.

[@PaektuMountain]

The price will go down when it starts producing in the U.S. The IRA bill and the de-Chineseization of battery materials are complicatedly intertwined, making it difficult for Hyundai and Kia to cut prices easily.. According to a Korean KZbinr, the Chinese car seems to be copying Hyundai-Kia's E-gmp platform. They tried to copy Tesla at first, but they failed and unlike Tesla, they began copying E-gmp, a modular format. In fact, Hyundai-Kia's E-gmp parts and Chinese car platforms that are copying E-gmp have the same bolt location and part shape. (They don't have to be the same unless chinese copy hyundai recklessly..)

[@PaektuMountain]

In addition, Hyundai-Kia's electric cars are currently produced in Korea, and the power of Hyundai-Kia's labor union is so strong in Korea. It's called the aristocratic union. They do not want Hyundai-Kia to increase electric vehicle production in order not that unions don’t want to lose jobs, and they demand that they make electric vehicles in consultation with the union. This is why Hyundai-Kia's production is not high.

[@EmmaNguyen-mg5xq]

​@@PaektuMountain narrow-minded. Fake news. 🤡🤡🤡

[@videosuperhero100]

EV 6 starts at $48,700...that price is too high.

[@hadtobe4502]

I suppose when you produce such small numbers and treat everyone like a wallet and only sell them to the fastest person who is able to log-in from a computer, then people will look elsewhere.

[@godofdun]

Make moooooooooore

[@viking1au]

Depends if it is powered by cells made by LG Chem or not.

[@moarpwr4414]

They are LG Chem

[@jamesthompson7282]

Kia EV6: "As rare as hen's teeth." What makes this one of the best EVs ever manufactured? "Never intended to be mass produced." So, deliberately created to be a dead model? From a manufacturer likely doomed: so doomed to be an orphan product, with no dealers to support it. From a manufacturer that refused to support the building of fueling stations? Do you want to purchase a car that won't become a mass market product? Do you want to purchase a car from a company that won't be around to support it? That won't have dealers to support it (if they could even get parts, which they won't)? That can't easily be recharged on the road once you run out of charge from home? So what makes a "great" product - EV or anything else? Surely this definition would have to include whether it can be maintained, supported, used to drive any reasonable distance without a refueling crisis? My old Microsoft/Nokia smartphone had the best camera on the market & an operating system UI that I loved. A battery that wouldn't quit. It rocked. Was it a terrific product? Well, no one wanted to support the phone's OS with applications. Without apps the phone was dead commercially. Microsoft killed the product & took a $5B write-down on it's balance sheet. A "best ever" product that isn't widely adopted, isn't even designed to be produced & sold in volume, isn't going to be supported & can't be easily fueled: that isn't a "best ever" product at all.

[@tonyggir]

It’s pretty obvious the OEMs are unable to mass produce EVs at scale or at a decent margin. It’s just not that easy.

[@vangcruz4442]

Buying an EV car is not always about buying EV car. It is about seen as cool and compassioness of the buyer.....for this reason, Tesla will continue to dominate the market....not because it is the best but the CULT status. 😂😂😂

[@stevenmitchell6347]

They can't deliver what they won't build. Production commitment from Kia isn't there.

[@belowme4927]

about 33% of americans live in apartments. the vast majority of apartment buildings do not have a charging station. they will not be buying an EV.

[@205rider8]

Ever heard of supercharger?

[@belowme4927]

@@205rider8 superchargers are for people that travel. companies expect people to charge at home

[@jlamm2223443]

I can see Kia's strategy. Learn how to design EVs, but don't make many of them until EVs would really make a profit for them. Look at Ford. They did the opposite. They made all these EVs where they lose a lot on each. I think Toyota is thinking the same way as Kia. They will make EVs when the market is really there to warrant a huge factory and scale where they make a profit. Till then, let Testa and BYD be king over there since they are the only ones doing it in scale.

[@nguyep4]

That is really bad logic. Why? Learning is a continuous process. They won't have a great product at their first attempt. It takes time to refine and make improvement. This takes years. If they don't do it now, they will fall behind in technology and development. There are many things can go wrong when scaling from 20k EV to 1M EV and so forth. Look at GM, Ford, Rivian, Lucid, etc there are reasons why they don't have the capacity yet.

[@IoniqIonityIonna]

Kia makes profit $927 on ev, unlike -$762 Ford. Korea's labour union is limiting production of each ev model, so Kia have no choice but only can make many ev models with long waiting.

[@IoniqIonityIonna]

Kia will let Tesla & BYD be ev sales king. Kia is aiming Toyota VW and can electrify ice cars anytime when electrify helps increasing total sales.

[@jlamm2223443]

@@nguyep4 Well said.

[@vvattup]

All hype. Award’s probably bought. It can not be manufactured profitably. Its pure window dressing to hype the brand

[@mike9588]

Bro said best made in the history of mankind 💀 meanwhile when they come out with one that has double the range in 3-4 years it’ll be worth nothing

[@entropy5431]

Not really. Most people don't want or need to drive 300 miles without stopping. 200 miles is plenty when the charging network improves even less important. Bigger batteries means more weight, less efficiency, performance and higher prices. Yes battery tech will improve but new tech won't be in production for years.

[@dtomaz1]

“KIA” and the “Best” are not words that should be together😉🤣

[@thedjinn13]

Great looking car, worth $50-$60k it is not

[@petertraveller6421]

It's too expensive, model Y AWD is cheaper

[@moarpwr4414]

It is now, however when I bought mine, I would have spend $12k-$15k more on the Model Y if I bought that. And that is not taking in account the tax credit mine was eligible for at the time. Now the tables have flipped.

[@gauvreausebastien]

Depends where you are located but in Canada the Model Y and is 5-7k more than the ev6 gt-line.

[@moarpwr4414]

@@gauvreausebastien location is key. At the time I bought my EV6 Wind AWD, I paid sticker price at $54k and at the time it qualified for the tax credit in the US for $7,500 rebate. At that time, the Model Y AWD started just north of $67k and no tax rebate. Currently the Model Y AWD starts just north of $47k and now it qualifies for the $7,500 rebate while the EV6 does not. Not sure how things are north of the border, but this is how it currently looks in the US.

[@gauvreausebastien]

@@moarpwr4414 fully agree. For me if I include the credits available for people living in Quebec the Ev6 will be around 14k less. Both are eligible for a 5k credit form the federal government but EV6 qualifies for an extra 7k credit in Quebec.

[@moarpwr4414]

@@gauvreausebastien good deal. If you are looking, all I can say is the EV6 is great. When you can get the ideal charge speeds, which is fairly consistent if the charge network is not having issues at that location or charger is great for long trips. I logged about 28,000 miles in year 1 so as you can guess that charge speed was high on my priority list. It is comfortable and easy to do long drives. It has ample space for people and items. Tech is good, but nowhere near what Tesla has, especially when it comes to updates. It does have a better service/dealer network just because they are there, but it is clear to me they really don’t have knowledge of the vehicle, so how much their numbers help is questionable. It has way better looks than the Tesla in my opinion. The Model Y is a bit larger, but not by much. The EV6 is way more sleek. If you are looking, do what works best for your lifestyle and enjoy whatever you are able to get your hands on.

[@larstell]

You don't get the charging that they promise.....

[@HChampagne63]

Difficult to get insured in the U.S. Too easy to steal.

[@Nilz4FR]

My mom owns this car and its just trouble! The software is a beta failure!

[@MegaWilderness]

Garbage, only 20% of the cars on Norway's roads are BEV's

[@greghudson9717]

What Sam really meant to say was that 80% of cars in Norway sold in 2022 were BEV's (not 80% of the cars on the road). He's human, and makes mistakes...

[@DavGreg]

Kia = Ghetto Car in US.

[@10secondsrule]

Us is a s…hole anyway so nobody cares. Kia is doing well in other countries.

[@moarpwr4414]

At one time, and on certain models I would agree, however Kia has really stepped it up.

[@joejones6968]

No, that would be Dodge. Just about every brutha has a Dodge that they can not pay for, and usually dont.