Why Palpatine and Vader Killed Grand Moff Tarkin’s SON! (Legends)

[@starwarsreadingclub]

Hey everyone, I hope you all had a great weekend! Just a quick heads up that we are going to be having a live Hangout here on KZbin this upcoming Wednesday at 3:00pm EST (a bit later than our usual live stream time). Here, we are going to answer and discuss questions from Patreon members of SWRC, play some Battlefront 2, and as always, talk all-things Star Wars! I hope to see you all there and thank you very much for all of the amazing comments here on the channel recently. I can’t thank you all enough!

[@Ruosteinenknight]

Are you planning to do video about "Darth Vader and the ghost prison"? It isn't direct "sequel" to this comic but does happen in the same continuity.

[@aronfreyr2752]

Hey i am a fan of your channel and i was wondering if you would like to do a video about the star wars empire cimic issue #16-#18 i love the story and i would love to see a video about it ill link the comics in the post so you can read it yourself Issue 16 readcomiconline.to/Comic/Star-Wars-Empire/Issue-16?id=98954 Issue 17 readcomiconline.to/Comic/Star-Wars-Empire/Issue-17?id=98955 Issue 18 readcomiconline.to/Comic/Star-Wars-Empire/Issue-18?id=98956 I just love seeing it from the empire perspective and i love your vids keep up the good work

[@EchthelionII]

Could you do a video on the force sensitive Hutt from the book Scourge? Please?

[@JacobGen]

Why didn't Vader clone padme?

[@paulbradley1983]

Sounds great!

[@c.j.playzmc2430]

Moff: hey lord Vader how’s the wife Vader: say hello to her for me

[@DaG.O.A.T.]

So that's why tarkin was so black hearted and cold cause of his son being killed basically sidious created another monster like sidious & vader

[@DeathScepter]

tarkin has no heart.

[@Ruosteinenknight]

It worked. "Darth Vader and the ghost prison" comic shows that over the following years, Emperor's way of running things had resulted such excessive casualties that they had to build giant crematorium on coruscant to burn all the bodies sent back from the fronts all over the galaxy. And this was before Rebellion had taken root. When Tarkin was confronted by this by headmaster of Coruscant's imperial officer academy and told that his command alone got lot of cadets killed, Tarkin basically responded that he doesn't give a bantha's ass.

[@Ashguy733]

Ehh he was already like that in the Book Rogue Planet...

[@DeathScepter]

Lets face it, calling Tarkin a Psychopath is too nice

[@aliastheabnormal]

In Legends at least. Tarkin was born an evil monster in Disney canon.

[@eldenvedetta635]

6:17 I disagree, I don't think she underestimated the light within him but used the WORST way possible to bring out the light. Thinking of Padme might seem light at first, but to Vader specifically, it brought him the MOST feelings of pain and anguish that he ever could feel. Thinking of her only brings him pain after what happened, what he blamed himself for. She shouldn't have used her to bring the light out of him, it was never going to work. Only one of Padme's children could bring her up and not totally destroy Vader's mentality, but even them bringing her up would likely not be a step for him towards the light, unless brought up in a very specific way. Never the less, AMAZING video my friend! Thank you for the great Authentic Star Wars content like that of the Legends:)

[@392sasuke]

That’s a lot of ambushes

[@Jay-in6dl]

JManPlays 30-50 ambushes

[@gokublack8342]

@@Jay-in6dl They were actually Skavens in human disguise 😂

[@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773]

Honestly, the moments when Vader had visions of Padmé in the awesome Legends comic broken down in this video get to me every single time. What happened to Anakin Skywalker was truly such a sad and terrible thing, and I find it rather cruel that both Palpatine and Vader plotted to kill Tarkin's son. But Sidious is Sidious and Vader wasn't redeemed yet so what do you expect lol! :)

[@starwarsreadingclub]

I know what you mean. This is why I am waiting with such anticipation to see what happens in the final issue of the Vader comic next week. I am expecting something equally as tragic as seen in these Legends comics.

[@lukeskywalkerthe2nd773]

@@starwarsreadingclub Same tbh. The Canon comics for Vader have really been on a role imo, and I expect that things equally as tragic happen in the final issue as well.

[@EchthelionII]

Are there any other canon comics or is it just the Vader ones? Because that's all I ever see on youtube regarding new comics, I really want to start reading the legends material first though, also still want the rest of the legends books, there's sooo many, I have about half of them which is about 60 or so and only read half of those because I read them in chronological order and I am missing some of those.

[@goose_42]

what is the name of this comic?

[@Phoenix8492]

That may have been a legit suicide attempt by Darth Vader; it could have been that he sensed the love between the two of them, knew he had to kill them, and then tried to drop the place on himself in the process. The Dark Side doesn’t give its own up easily though.

[@Alex_FRD]

Legends Palpatine is always drawn to look like a melted candle.

[@Exis247]

Those aren't drawings. They are obviously pictures of melted candles.

[@theredblurb132]

Well damn that explains a lot as to why Tarkin in his doctrine and conversations with sidious never even flinched. As Alderran was destroyed or as the empire enacted his doctrine with extreme prejudice. In the end he resolved on his path with Sidious and Vader. He was the perfect man for it and only his son stood in his way from truly embracing the empire.

[@Gameguy-gk8lx]

I remember this comic it is one of my favorite installments in the EU.

[@starwarsreadingclub]

I completely agree GG1128, this is a fantastic series! I have recently gotten into the Lost Command and Dark Times recently, and both are just great. Thank you for watching!

[@damonturnbull5903]

Hi What does EU stand for?

[@grongo2302]

@@damonturnbull5903 expanded universe if i remember correctly

[@isharkyshark3974]

Wow. Poor Tarkin.

[@EchthelionII]

Which one?

[@isharkyshark3974]

@@EchthelionII Both of them lol

[@Exis247]

Vader being so heavily damaged in that fight probably prevented tarkin from assuming it was an assassination.

[@Kurayamiblack]

As raw and entertaining as this is, it's really over the top imo Vader gets ambushed ALOT by a person who has no idea he's being hunted because the plot to kill him was concieved DURING a rescue operation to save him which he also didn't know or care about because HE had already betrayed them first which they didn't know about until after they betray him... And this twisted knot of seemingly petty squabble somehow produces a situation capable of unmasking, restraining and almost killing the all powerful Darth Vader whom can't complete the mission without comitting near suicide to get at a non-force user that's in the same room as him? And all it took for Vader to be pushed this far was for one of his admirals to find a hot chick he wants to get with... It's well told though...

[@rumplestiltskon]

In these comics, it always looks like Palpatine is taking a dump.

[@chrismc410]

He probably is . Incontinence is a thing even the Dark Side can't control. He is old

[@ansongordon-creed4047]

The funny thing is, nowhere in this comic is it clear that Tarkin loved his son; only that Palpatine and Vader thought he did. That's why TV Tropes still considers Tarkin a Complete Monster when having a loved one would normally disqualify him.

[@regularguy2807]

Considering that he told Vader about his missing son I would think he did care about him since he wanted him back.

[@gokublack8342]

@@regularguy2807 It actually explains why he was so cruel toward the rebels in episode 4. All he has left is hatred for the rebel scum that murdered his son.

[@MrSir]

When I read the title I was wondering if I missed something, since I read the Tarkin novel and theres no word about a son there. Well this is legends ^^

[@realahsokatano5046]

There is always a bit of truth in legends. ;)

[@EchthelionII]

This was also the first time of hearing that Tarkin had a son, I also read Tarkin and it was really good one of 3 canon books I liked actually, still need to read Thrawn Alliances, I haven't read much of the Imperial era in legends though because I'm missing a bunch of them, I don't even have the original trilogy books, I only ever found them in one book and I want them separately so I can put them in the right place on my book shelf.

[@helloeveryone5251]

Look at title: Oh Jesus Christ...

[@lordmaul9927]

Darth Jar Jar M'Lord

[@evanescentenquirer2684]

Best name ever

[@ricancira]

0:16 - Darth Howard the Duck, lol.

[@Kadeo-ms6qw]

Why is Vader able to walk around without his respirator? He doesn’t look nearly as damaged as in the movies

[@Kadeo-ms6qw]

Also why is Vader THICC AF?

[@darthkrayt5535]

@@Kadeo-ms6qw He's been stress eating since Padme died.

[@siegel947]

Darth Vader past life of being loyal to sidious is like a father and son bond relationship....that was a heart breaking story the both lovers meet their faith....

[@zackhorker210]

Man, I don't get how they have that ONE chance to finally kill Vader and end this madness but instead chose to keep him alive anyway, incredibly stupid.

[@deestttone791]

That was a really good example of the well-written drama that those legends tales could create.

[@obitwokenobi9808]

Tarkin's son was the only thing that kept his humanity intact. But like with Vader, Palpatine took that from him to turn him into a cold blooded killer.

[@Dakarai_Knight]

Weird. You’d think with Tarkins advanced age funding a suitable replacement like his son might be a priority for palpatine. He plotted to kill him before even knowing he was a traitor

[@JanPeverell]

Let's see how the canon meeting with Padmé will go next week.

[@starwarsreadingclub]

It has been on my mind the last two weeks, wondering if it might truly become Vader's "greatest defeat." Can't wait for it. :) Hope you had a great weekend IO!

[@quaternarytetrad4039]

"Finding the star destroyer to be heavily damaged." Well, gee, it's been split in half. That *might* qualify as heavily damaged and not, say, destroyed?

[@SCUBAelement-Intl]

Your narration is really good, thanks!!

[@realahsokatano5046]

Vader looks thicc in this comic

[@bashfulray7982]

Wow naughty padawan

[@realahsokatano5046]

@@bashfulray7982 What? He kinda does.

[@tywinlannister8015]

He looks like shit. His mouth vent is ridiculously oversized. The rest of the art looks good, but Vader looks like a teen drawing seriously - no sense of proper scale.

[@ownthevoid]

Well, they don't call him "Thicc Dicc Skyguy" for no reason..

[@mikaelrivacov5705]

Vader looks like batman at this point or even spawn 😅😂

[@farrdawgjoker7087]

Excellent my apprentice, you have done more than we originally planned and the dark side of the force has once more proven why it is superior to the light. The light sides will leave you to die while the dark side saves your life and keeps you alive, that keeps happening mainly to Vader bit the dark side is the way to live.

[@JediAcolyte94]

Lost Command is definitely a top notch story that is always worth a read. Especially how it makes Vader a truly tragic figure and more human to the reader.

[@251spartan]

Indeed, it does, also i cant help but feel sad by the deaths of the Troopers of the 501st, and Commander Voca, the way the died at the end, betrayed, was tragic. Not gonna lie, after that i was cheering on Vader when he killed Shale.

[@GeonusKaikun]

Man, Tarkin was Vader's homie, too. If Tarkin only knew what he did.

[@sebas8225]

My guess is that Tarkin would´ve ordered the Death star to fire on Tatooine or Mustafar if he found out DX

[@gabork5055]

@@sebas8225 Killing all the Tuskens and getting rid of all the sand and the high grounds in the Mos Eisley race track in the process. Doing so, he would have made Vader happy.

[@BapyTheSnowman]

2:09 "heavily damaged" may be a slight understatement... idk tho

[@MrRonald327]

I loved this comic.

[@Gamerafighter76]

Well, that certainly pushed Tarkin to be more ruthless.

[@skymabile2855]

To quote a playable character from Terminator: Dawn of Fate, "Grief is a fool's game." And anyone like Tarkin or Vader whose lost a loved one loses their moral anchor is likely to play it.

[@lelouche25]

This was too convenient. It would have been better if Tarkins son was loyal, would have made for a more intriguing story line.

[@eddiepardo3705]

"So there you have iiiiiiiitttt" lol

[@mandalorethehunter9803]

6:51 why the medic Droid look so confused

[@gokublack8342]

Thats more like a "really" look to me like hes thinking how many times do I have to fix this guy?!!😂

[@Iuwl]

Why was vader's eyes blue? I almost didnt recognize him

[@Iuwl]

@keller blair that doesn't really explain why his eyes were blue towards the end of the video though the glowing orange eyes being sith eyes, I thought that was his trait since becoming vader

[@Iuwl]

@keller blair so basically the sight of padme was enough to lift the darkness momentarily and turn his eyes blue, despite the fact that he's still a sith and almost getting blown up could've done without the roundabout answer bro, your overly poetic answer is what's hard to understand

[@gokublack8342]

@@Iuwl Thats why he tries to bring the whole building down on them instead of just force choking them to death. The girls visions only drove him to extreme guilt for killing Padme (apparently in the vision Padme tells Vader she forgives him) basically he was overwhelmed by guilt and tries to bring the whole building down to commit suicide

[@Thiborfirenz]

I always thought that tarkin was based on the lord Kitchener archetype (celibate military officer married to the work with no time for love). tho ofcourse now in the shisney canon he is gay.

[@hosmerhomeboy]

really? OH FFS I wish they would just stop. Why does EVERY THING need to be gay! I always thought that he had a fling with admiral daala. It's never said outright, but was insinuated.

[@Thiborfirenz]

@@hosmerhomeboy yup he was having it off with tk427 the storm trooper who's armour Luke wore on the 1st death star! tbh I don't mind any character being gay I was annoyed that a character that I thought was a celibate army officer archetype and a role model for celibate men was taken away from a group that basically has no role models in modern media (ecpt for the emperor) I have since found out that he wasn't celibate and had a son. tho ofcourse being celibate don't mean a person has tobe a virgin it just means they no longer bother with the opposite sex.

[@hosmerhomeboy]

@@Thiborfirenz Yeah, it's not that the presence of gays annoys me, it's that the current media establishment feels the need to shoehorn it in to absolutely everything. All the old lore, and even much history is being over written with a multicultural/pansexual brush, and it's blatant and obvious. I would totally not mind a new character that was gay, but just writing it in there for existing characters, or simply replacing them with women, is annoying to me. I tried reading the books, and had to throw away chuck wendigs piles of trash. I am done with all this revisionism.

[@teleportingfruitrolluppowe7804]

vader showed that face of " i dont get paid enough for this shit."

[@NinjaKuma]

Why does Palpatine look like Dr Doom in 0:22 ?

[@Torterra625]

Ya know... as much as I love Vader... there’s a point (at least for me) where someone does so much depraved and messed up shit to where I can’t feel sorry for them. This is like Stalin levels of “deserves to die in the most painful way.” No amount of sad backstory can make up for that.

[@MournfulDust]

While i somewhat agree please keep in mind that some of this legends stuff is just silly because it's so focused on being dark, gruesome, vile and everything that it hurts the plot, the characters and the overall immersion, at least for me. I really dislike stories like the one from the video because i feel like some frustrated kid wrote them that got mistreated in elementary school and never managed to deal with his self-pity appropriately, and i can't take them seriously.

[@sebas8225]

Killing Tarkin´s son is disgusting, I thought they were bros!

[@psgaming101craup4]

@@sebas8225 Vader and tarkin never liked each other.

[@psgaming101craup4]

@@MournfulDust Depends on the comics not every legend material is dark and gruesome but when it comes to vader... Ya that tends to happen did you forget he killed children in the prequels my dude vader is a killing machine that is something they manage to hit the nail with.

[@freekill1018]

I feel like Vader just wanted to get revenge on tarkin for giving him orders lol

[@antoniomiguel5760]

So they didn't conspire, Vader just found out he had to kill him...

[@gokublack8342]

Technically they did because killing his son was the plan it just so happened his son was a traitor and was gonna have to be killed regardless. Better to tell Tarkin Rebels did it though and leave the fact his son was a traitor out of the report 😂

[@thatguy8514]

Les Mis crossover? A kid named Garoche dies. Garoche’s (himself Tarkin’s kid) unborn kid dies.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

Poor wilhuff tarkin i wonder if he would have joined the rebellion if he knew the truth.

[@beale13897]

When you realize people who weren’t Jedi had a chance of killing Vader

[@ryancarter1080]

has anyone made a fanfiction of tarkin finding out vader and the emperor killed his son whether that be seeking revenge or accepting it as his son was a traitor

[@ionasculuigi8153]

moff tarkin_ magnetou is engeener of energetyc systems and he escape_survivor on death star with a patrol_hunter of great speed_fast in the lost moment_time _archaicxn

[@damieng6368]

Star wars 1313 is back go to star wars comics channel and look for his video where announced it for more info

[@americanspartan2420]

Who were the black armored clones that traveled with vader throughout the story, not the storm commandos

[@timtam39tw]

Wow! The Sith have no shame.🤗

[@edlippincott6205]

this was one of the best vader comics and its clear why it is a top choice of many when talking about memorable legends comics

[@jayb3033]

I don't understand this happened right after order 66 wouldn't it seem like Vader would have thought for a moment and thought "well the emperor is trying to get me to Stage Tarlins son's death and he could have done the same thing with Padme and told me that I killed her in my anger?" In other words Vader used the force to kill tarkin's son and Stage it to look like the rebels did it in the sad story the next day that the rebels killed Tarkins son and therefore the rebels must be stopped at all costs even if that involves genocide of Millions if not billions of people. Wouldn't have it occurred to Vader at this point that Palpatine could have used Sith Alchemy to kill Pademe through the force claiming that he killed her in his anger by accident? It seems like at that point Vader wouldn't get would have gotten together with Tarkin to get revenge on Palpatine and then both of them to overthrow him?

[@NikkiHash]

Vader looking like Deadpool lol

[@timothywilson5447]

What Vader wouldn't do to grieve General Tarkin

[@Twinsuns2187]

we sure get a lot of unmasked vader in this one. how many other comics out there have his face shown? i am going to find this out!

[@Kunx990]

Very other comic Vader's helmet gets damaged because that was the cool thing to do

[@xenoblad]

What morons decide to take Vader alive? The insurgents FINALLY out smart Vader and then they blew it.

[@gokublack8342]

What if I told you this wasnt the last time (In Legends) Rebels make this mistake?

[@jeffreyderbes]

I think u really need to start showing what comic this is .... show the cover all these vids never reference this comic it's from and that sucks thanks

[@evanjett9613]

This comic is the reason why i liked legends better than disney canon.

[@MGSBigBoss77]

Exactly!

[@Blargleflakes]

Lmao why did they give palpatine MODOKs face

[@HappyFlapps]

Vader should have been hung by what was left of his roasted testicles and slowly roasted alive. What a freakin' jerk.

[@christiancarter0688]

Good story hate the way it's drawn looks like it's out the 70s

[@Twinsuns2187]

Lady Sorrow......well she was very sorry to have messed with vader i bet. (Really bad ideas)!!!!!!!!!!!

[@junko4166]

Someone actually got paid to draw this...

[@realahsokatano5046]

Unpopular opinion: Canon Vader is better and much more powerful than his legends counterpart. Just me tho. Feel free to disagree.

[@joegillespie4180]

I both agree and disagree

[@EchthelionII]

I disagree only because I don't really know much about canon Vader because I haven't read any of the comics, legends or canon.

[@realahsokatano5046]

@@EchthelionII If you read the 2017-2018 Vader comics and watch season 2 of rebels you'll like canon Vader more

[@EchthelionII]

@@realahsokatano5046 Haven't read any comics except 1 Rick and Morty comic and 1 graphic novel, also haven't watched Rebels, I might try it though, the animation on it looks really weird to me.

[@realahsokatano5046]

@@EchthelionII Rebels is actually relay good. Season 2 and 4 are my fav. also watch clone wars. ;)

[@bluelick7578]

For really bad ideas. Yea thats an uunderstatement.

[@alexilie6273]

Why? Because Sith only dominate , kill , betray, rule and Control everything

[@sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902]

wait waaaahh…

[@stuartnaknakim9441]

Vader in his tighty blackies

[@AbsolGasai]

Am I the only person who tries to skip "video expose," and "if not for me..." in all of his videos?

[@AbsolGasai]

Just as a sort of minigame in his videos, adds to my personal entertainment.

[@realahsokatano5046]

yes, yes you are

[@dantheman4384]

PIE

[@ischemic2115]

Why palpy and Vader look like a corny couple on Instagram in the thumbnail

[@lilpotatozrcool1142]

This would never be in cannon because in cannon tarkin is actually gay...... No really, there's a comic where tarkin comes across a little survalence droid of a gay stormtrooper. Tarkin has an instant crush and aranges a meeting with him that is not recorded for "security reasons" 😏

[@regularguy2807]

And this is the reason why legends is the real canon.

[@luigiionascu7056]

_secret service of star wars_is not true _moff tarkin son escape survivor from attentat terorist and go run on base of imperial fleet where him father count and diplom engeener in the energetyc systems of grand power great admirall moff tarkin became spy inspector in build machine of great power with need the force_moff tarkin escape survivor from death star explozion and he go run in the lost moment time with a hunter patrol imperial on great speed fast and arrive on away far away base_lock the this base is secret_they never return at fight_secret service of star wars_archaicxn lord

[@Karts.Arts2025]

Shame this isn’t canon

[@Marcusjnmc]

#forrillybadideas

[@emperorpalpatine4681]

Lol

[@danielqmul]

I’m glad this is non canon.

[@psgaming101craup4]

Ah yes just like that one time where softcore homosexual porn in canonical point of view book where it felt out of place and saber copters and a wookie being able to manhandle vader is a better canon. Oh wait is worthless and inconsistent and tainted by the sequel trilogy. Despite this being one of the best legend comics and aphra with thick plot armour or palpatine or every character acting out of character.

[@gokublack8342]

@@psgaming101craup4 If you're referring to the comic where Vader is on that weird rock monster planet I'm pretty sure Chewbaca still loses that fight and Vaders suit was essentially emped and not working during that

[@elijahallen356]

I love this comic, but I hate the illustration style

[@TheDude-cp5kk]

I am the 100th comment

[@voidzwrathdankster4554]

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