Why Payton Thorne is not to blame. QB Breakdown with Aaron Murray

Aaron Murray dives into the tape to see what went wrong for Payton Thorne and Auburn in their week 2 loss against Cal.
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[@cmg2175]

After watching that, I’m not sure how Thorne isn’t to blame

[@mwide100]

Agreed, after watching I feel better about play calling.

[@SpencerJones-p5v]

As a passionate Auburn fan who goes to the games, that was very disappointing.

[@will00018]

I must’ve missed the part where you showed or talked about how Peyton isn’t to be blamed. All I heard is “ball should be out”. Is that not Peyton’s job and where he should carry the blame?

[@NortonWiggins]

I was going to say the same, all I heard was make the throw, bad read, make the throw, Carson Beck and Quinn Evers doesn’t wait when they see green grass. Maybe once or twice he said there should have been a Hot route

[@Flamincow67]

12:17 is a good show of what's happening. Thorne isn't entirely without blame, but why are we calling plays like this when the pass protection was so poor. Same thing with the weird RB routes and bad clock management. A good coach is going to call some more short plays to boost the confidence of your QB.

[@f.scott.fitzbeagle]

@@Flamincow67 Yes, more than once he pointed out the RB sitting down in a bad spot.

[@michaelbee2165]

I thought the same thing. I kept waiting for Aaron to tell me this, or that play wasn't PT's fault. Never heard it. Not once. As an Auburn fan with all the yelling about PT, I was really hoping to see something he was NOT to blame for. Like I said, Aaron never showed me. Not once.😢

[@ImJoegath]

Especially considering how many times he just ignored KLS at the first level or an easy few yards with the fullback. No excuse.

[@howard2031]

I think you meant the title to read "Payton Thorne mostly to blame but not all to blame".

[@formula2tom225]

headline should read Thorne BENCHED, worst QB play in youtube history

[@michaelbee2165]

Absolutely.

[@brentayres12]

Bro, no way you think Thorne doesn’t have AT LEAST 50% of blame for this

[@aaronsmith6388]

Exactly. It's 100% on thorne when he makes bad throws which is most the time.

[@Moogoogala]

​@@aaronsmith6388yeah the dude threw like 3 interceptions on first downs alone

[@lanepatterson8004]

@@Moogoogala2 out of the 4 was his fault. One of them KLS was supposed to run a post but ran an out, and the another one Cam should’ve caught it but he let it go right through his hands to the DB. I don’t believe in Thorne at all but play calling didn’t help him out one bit. We can’t just call deep shots every time just because we were able to do it against Alabama A&M

[@horsheof7668]

@@lanepatterson8004The one with KLS is still 50/50 his fault, simply because your job as the qb is to make sure you’re all on the same exact page

[@lanepatterson8004]

@@horsheof7668 no it’s not. It’s 100% KLS and he even admitted that. They can’t read each others minds and he can’t be out there screaming at him what route TJ run. Payton threw the ball where KLS would’ve been and had he ran the right route it was an easy TD

[@optimusclimb8528]

Thorne might be the worst QB I’ve ever seen. And that’s coming from an FSU fan currently having my eyes bleed watching DJU.

[@lukef5875]

😂😂😂

[@trueauburnchampion1322]

I agree

[@gwheat63]

I agree this coming from AU fan! Freeze is going to lose the locker room if he keeps riding with Thorne!

[@gwheat63]

A lot like DJU after a while the QB is just who he is and are not going to get any better!

[@brianhackett7163]

You are proving how bad he is.

[@Big_homielander]

"nothing there for Payton Thorne" as he throws a TD. 😂 But if Payton is still the starter when we get to SEC play Auburn won't even make bowl eligibility.

[@jackramey1333]

I was looking for this comment. That was a TD on 4:29.

[@justinschultz764]

“Nothing there”. Looks down from screen and doesn’t see that it’s a touchdown. 🤦‍♂️

[@joejitsuway960]

Aaron forgot to notice his only touchdown and still doesn't think it's his fault. Wild lol

[@moeller013]

Sure sounded like a lot of blame on thorne to me...

[@Galatian1]

Thorne is to blame!!! He was garbage last season, and nothing has changed. He's lucky to get a 50% completion rate each game. You sound like Hugh with all the BS excuses for Thorne. Protection is always an issue because Thorne either holds the ball too long or he panics and takes off. Thorne is incapable of making quick reads and a quick release of the ball. Keep in mind.......this is a 5th year senior still make stupid decisions.

[@formula2tom225]

QB looked just as scared and lost as our coach...any high school coach could have done a better job with the team... and letting the qb stay in the game? stupid....How bad is our backup? cause mercy

[@michaelbee2165]

Reminds me especially of the aTm game last year. He doesn't get the ball out when there's green grass and a completion available OR throw it away to avoid the sack. All because he holds the ball too long.

[@beauandmarion2630]

Yes, exactly. Once he threw that first pick, it was only going to go downhill. He was going to get gunshy and scared to attempt the throws he started the game out with. He’s mentally fragile and rides off of confidence. He’s a fifth year senior and we have to scheme easy throws for him to try and get him into a rhythm as if he were a true freshman making his first start.

[@Wowzersdude-k5c]

On the last play you showed, the receiver was jogging because he was hurt on the play before. He kept signaling to come out of the game, but the play was snapped before he could.

[@wilbo1316]

Thorne saw him too and still threw it to him

[@PrenticeJones-fh2ew]

No apparently he didn't know he was hurt ​@@wilbo1316

[@gwheat63]

It seems like once he gets out of rhythm he can never recover!

[@CarlosRodriguez-oc6hw]

The story of Auburn Qb’s. Just give me a Brandon Cox, we don’t need a Newton. Just a guy that enjoys playing the game with his guys!

[@YungBezos31]

God that sounds amazing

[@bksellers64]

Payton Thorne's metrics are better than Brandon Cox's but Brandon won and he took some vicious hits. But BC's OC Al Borges was good at tailoring his offense to the capabilities of his QB. Freeze is simply asking PT to do things he's not capable of doing and I don't see a lot of creativity in the play calling, especially in the run game. I'm not talking about trick plays. We need some counter for both RB and QB, Iso, sweep, etc...Get in the pistol and let JH run downhill. We're going to have to use the run to set up the pass and catch defenses off guard and keep it simple. You can't give him too many reads or options. Steve Spurrier and Al Borges both would use flood concepts to help out their QBs with short, med, and deep receiver on one side of the field so all 3 receivers were in the QBs field of vision and he could make a quick read and not have to scan the entire field. They would also let their QB role out with protection in short yardage situations and give him a chance to pick up first downs with their feet so they wouldn't be tempted to force a throw. There's a lot that can be done to help our QB's. I thought this would happen when Freeze took over the offense but apparently not.

[@bmaze35640]

Brandon Cox had three games with 4 INT.

[@PrenticeJones-fh2ew]

Nick Marshall

[@CarlosRodriguez-oc6hw]

@@bmaze35640 give me all of that. At least he played in state!

[@JB-Mon]

I am an Auburn grad and my best friend is a Michigan State grad so I have seen almost every game Thorne has played. He just cannot process and execute quickly enough against quality defenses IMO. Even if you go back to that first year at Michigan State he had pros at WR and RB and almost everything he ran was a predetermined pass before snap or 50/50 sideline fades/deep routes.

[@YungBezos31]

If a 5th year senior needs to "just make the pass" that often, he's a problem. I would get it if he was a true freshman or freshman but he isn't. It's laughable that he has spent so much time in the offense yet stll doesn't have complete leadership of it. If were going to be losing to the Cal's of the world, let it be with a qb that hasn't hit his potential yet. Hell if were going to throw 4 ints let it be with someone who has some excuse. Payton has ran out of excuses and Hugh is sinking the ship letting this guy drive. No SEC team would field the guy yet we still let him out there every Saturday. And you can't tell me it doesn't take a toll on his teammates cause you can see the dejection in the midst of it all.

[@tacoleg6856]

FWIW, Aaron can't just get on here and be overly critical of coaching staffs, play selection and coaching quality as that could lead to complications with his professional broadcasting career. But it's clear by the title that he doesn't think Payton Thorne is to blame (or at least fully to blame). Reading between the lines after watching this review, there are a lot of play designs and coaching whiffs that he's pointing out in addition to some of Thorne's mistakes. Freeze and Nix don't seem to have fully prepared this team, and play calling and design are half-baked, leading to poor overall play.

[@JD-iu3vi]

You got it. I originally thought Thorne was to blame but watching this video showed it's more about poor coaching than not having elite players.

[@LATMTV]

@@JD-iu3vi are you effin serious lol bruh peyton missed 6 touchdown throws lol as a 5th year senior

[@copper4eva]

So that last play, Colemen was actually hurt. Quite unfortunate actually. He wanted to come out before the play, but it was 2 minute drill. He should've just gone down and caused the ref timeout.

[@BobSmith-h5o]

I legit was wondering if he was paid to throw the game. The receivers looked like defenders in 2 of them. Literally threw it directly to the defense. Twice. No other players on the field were within 10 yards of the ball

[@billymcgee8622]

Amen he was completing passes to the opposite team perfectly

[@tjlew980]

When you mentioned Ewers and Beck this is what i told ppl about knowing whose an experienced and elite QB. The type of reads and decisions they make are top tier. PT plays too scared. He HAS to make quick decisions when the pocket breaks down.

[@scottChapman25]

O line wasn't good Game plan wasn't good QB wasn't good

[@JD-iu3vi]

Repeat and rinse. Year after year. Same old song.

[@Hithereneighbor]

I love the way you break down film. Wasn’t all Peyton’s fault, just a combination of stuff needing to get cleaned up. Thanks Aaron!

[@SnapsCFB_]

Happy to help out!

[@garydowning7360]

The last int to coleman , 14 was WIDE OPEN..

[@pickensvilletj]

Wide - WIDE - open!!!!

[@GotHandlesForDays]

He is not looking at the field... he is going with his pre determined read and if it's not we are screwed

[@Dirtymax3513]

It is partly his fault. He can’t read a blitz, can’t make more than one read. Be better Murray.

[@SnapsCFB_]

Entire offense has to be better

[@marcosburgos8491]

And he is part of that offense.

[@Dirtymax3513]

@@SnapsCFB_ I agree, but if he makes the proper reads, he doesn’t throw four interceptions and Auburn still wins.

[@JD-iu3vi]

Hard to make a throw when a running back settles into the passing lanes. Poor coaching.

[@Dirtymax3513]

@@JD-iu3vi more times than not, Payton made mistakes that costs them the game.

[@bradcallahan1194]

Aaron knows football but Im sorry PT is NOT an SEC starting qb. Maybe a backup. He doesn't have "it" factor or mental game when things get tough

[@user-ny7xc3po1r]

Man stfu In guess where bo at

[@TrojanHorse68]

Great stuff Aaron. Thx for doing this. I was at the game and you can't really see what is happening realtime so this is awesome. I'll be sharing with my Auburn buds. Oh...and I have 2 UGA children :( ha

[@SnapsCFB_]

Glad you have some DAWGS in the family!

[@SpencerJones-p5v]

Coming from an Auburn fan who goes to all the games, that was VERY disappointing. So glad that Thorne is benched.

[@formula2tom225]

Thorne had the scared and lost look in his eyes from the first play....one of the worst games i've ever seen a QB play, and finish the game.. half the people in the stands that could have played better...... PS the coach looked more dazed and confused than the QB.. embarrassed...hell Auburn looked worse than the Gators did last week, mercy...at least they lost to a real team.

[@yeet_shadows]

The blame is 50% on Throne and 50% on Hugh Freeze for not taking Throne out and letting one of the Freshman play. I mean seriously after watching that terrible of a game you can't tell me that the 2 freshman on the side lines would have done any worse than him! I want to see Thorne dropped to 3 rd sting and have Hank at 1 and White at 2 this Saturday and see what they look like.

[@kyleparker2821]

Aaron Murray just wants Auburn to keep Thorne in so we keep losing games. That’s the real truth here

[@johndoe-ln4oi]

At 4:28 "Nothing there" -That was a touchdown throw to #5, Aaron. It was a great catch and throw.

[@Scottadamsfan3481]

Weird

[@420dangerdave]

Yea just like 23:18 the clean tackle oh wait ruled targeting the refs needed to move the ball since auburn couldn’t. Then a PI on the pick for a quick redo lol go bears 🐻🟡🔵

[@PrenticeJones-fh2ew]

​@420dangerda those were makeup calls for the early bad calls against Auburn. Peyton not getting that first down when he clearly went passed the yardage marker even though the ball was on the outside arm. The hands to the face aand roughing the passer that were weak calls, I could go on.

[@cmh0202]

Yeah one of the best plays of the game (although a tight window) and he acts like its an incompletion lol

[@XvKJP2015]

Maybe he didn't watch the game because it looks incomplete in the angle he has. It's a mistake calm down crybaby. Also most people aren't use to Auburn making good plays

[@oxfordcon]

As an Auburn grad, you’ve never been my favorite, Aaron, but this was a great breakdown, man. I will tune in for future ones if you have the patience to watch Auburn film 😂

[@wilbo1316]

Hes a Georgia Fan do not trust Aaron …..Thorne is the problem

[@masonwilson7910]

Facts

[@shoffejp]

Aaron, this is good stuff. Found your channel while trying to better understand what really happened that lead to such a bad loss. Awesome that you have access to these zoomed out camera views. Really get a better sense of what is going on than what you get on the tv broadcast. Appreciate your analysis. I learned a bunch and feel like I have a much better understanding. So much better than listening to people give their handwringing opinions without this game tape to review. You earned my subscription. I’m ready to see what Hank Brown can do.

[@SnapsCFB_]

Thanks for watching!

[@gamingdreams2142]

Thank you for breaking this down!

[@SnapsCFB_]

My pleasure!

[@rr0e_]

Only one way to know if it’s really not Payton’s fault - Start Hank Brown find out.

[@grahamfowler7017]

A few suggestions and minor critiques. It be great if you used a smaller marker size so it takes up less of the screen. Different color markers would be very helpful as well especially when drawing different things for offense vs defense. When you cut so many plays out (which is totally understandable), it’s super helpful if you tell us what down and distance it is, which you tell us sometimes but every play would be greatly appreciated. The video also seemed to cut off pretty abruptly. Massive respect to you Aaron, I love these types of film breakdowns and I know you’ll get better with time!

[@SnapsCFB_]

Thanks for the suggestions. Only my second week doing these Qb breakdowns. Hopefully get better every week

[@samuelskipper8206]

Just stumbled on this, as an Auburn fan I'm huge fan of you Murray! At least for the games where you weren't playing Auburn as a dawg. Insightful breakdown, subbed and love what you guys are doing!

[@SnapsCFB_]

Thanks for the sub!!

[@CJBronco2]

@@SnapsCFB_ BullChit this isn't Thornes fault...

[@mikemanning7809]

I just don't believe Thorne is the answer, to many times he has a open receiver and he holds the ball to long or throws to the wrong one

[@calebbrunette1763]

I think at this point you put Hank in let him get some playing time and some experience i don’t think Thorne can get the job done Thorne wasn’t getting the ball where it needed to be and that was a poor passing performance for him he’s a 4 year quarterback that can’t handle the pressure imo let Hank get the experience can’t do worse then that 😂

[@Daneifred]

"Why thorne is not to blame" => proceeds to say "should have made that throw" on 50%+ of the film. Come on man...

[@tyleringram965]

Good analysis. Thorne isn’t innocent but he isn’t the only one guilty. Sometimes he doesn’t have a check down and other times he doesn’t take it. Also with the depth of playmakers why not try another players strengths? Why are you running deep routes a ton? As an Auburn fan I would love to consistently see intermediate routes. But Auburn can’t

[@dbutler5758]

Appreciate the honest breakdown from a credible non-biased source-Solid QB from a successful program.

[@SnapsCFB_]

Thanks for watching!

[@cartermilburn5815]

cant wait to hear why 4 INTs isnt payton thornes fault

[@420dangerdave]

It was 5 INTs but the ESPN didn’t like that so Pi

[@YaBoiBond]

Throws behind an open receiver for in IC. 4th and 2 he chooses to throw it deep. Over throws a guy a seam route. Throws it to the RB instead of that middle route across the field wide ass open. Peyton is trash. Like you said hes waiting for the guy to get open instead of throwing the ball knowing his guy is going to get open.

[@davetrayford]

When you say "breakdown", you got that right! Offensive play selctions and inconsistent execution by ALL was OFFENSIVE !! Offensive team loss, not just because of one or a few...shared MESS ! Thanks for the objective analysis...hope next one is a "build up", not a"break down"...!

[@cameronmerrill_]

This is unwatchable, Murray is gonna cape for these QBs no matter what

[@kingslime5447]

As a 4th year starter certain Thorne shouldn’t be making freshman mistakes

[@SportZFan4L1fe]

Cal's defense held Auburn to 14 points last year. This year they held them to 7 but the refs gifted Auburn another 7.

[@wardamnfishing]

Erin: 'Why Payton Thorne is not to blame.' Also Erin: Throw it now. Don't hold on to the ball. He should be throwing it now. THROW IT NOW PAYTON! Almost sounded like an Auburn fan there for a minute.

[@scuffd3542]

Really interesting, thanks! Liked and subbed.

[@SnapsCFB_]

Thanks for the sub!

[@alaBAMCIS]

"Why Thorne is not blame " Immediately goes on to show why Thorne is to blame. At the least partly to blame.

[@MrBuitenlander]

Aaron, I really liked the breakdown, they are good insights, the only problem is you gloss over the awful throws he makes, and there were six or seven other really bad reads he made that for some reason you did not talk about at all (I cannot remember them all, but there were many) and you say bad throw...when it was egregiously bad for a four year player and in his second year in the system. My big question is......why do you title this, it is not PT's fault, when he threw 5 interceptions....4 for the record books, because that was not PI on the one called back, and I am a die hard auburn fan. It is disconcerting that you do not put any blame on PT, he needs to read quicker, react better, and understand in the last play that his rookie WR is asking to come out of the play and instead he throws to the one injured player.....you are the CEO of this offense, you need to know when someone is in pain and is asking to come out of the game.

[@nickbryant9867]

Aaron: “here’s why Thorne isn’t to blame” Also Aaron: *shows possibly 4 plays where it wasn’t Thorne’s fault*

[@cameronfortenberry174]

this lol I heard a lot of "ball needs to be out now" and "throw the ball"

[@Jeff-b4t]

The Payton Thorne Enigma.... One game he looks like Johnny U the next game like he's coached by Brian Harsin ... So freeze knew he's inconsistent so the Onus is on Freeze

[@trgrs34]

Great Job AM! Love the analysis & the views 🐅🦅

[@SnapsCFB_]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@pluggdn4443]

This title sounds like something a guy who wants us to stay bad would say😂

[@buerto96]

Where are you getting the game film and angle's from? Way better than the broadcast views

[@brooksprice5847]

Hey Aaron are these videos available online? Or is this only accessible by media? Would love to have access to these if possible. Regardless, good stuff.

[@clydecovington3972]

I agree, the buck stop with whoever is in charge. As an ex-military man I would hate to go to war with commanders who did not put no more thought into their offensive play strategy than Auburn’s coaching staff. Auburn has a roster than is capable of winning that game. And why did the kicker kept missing field goals?

[@StayFlyJW]

9:06 this is exactly why it’s on PT

[@johnhines623]

After watching Peyton start off strong on the first couple of plays and then look like a junior in middle school is really telling of how bad of a decision maker he is. We need a better QB situation. I’m almost ready to say sacrifice the rest of season to get experience for our other QBs

[@JonathanCarr-bn2zu]

Auburn-has two OC calling the play. Freeze said he was calling plays this year. It looks like 2A High School plays. Not running the ball. Sam Jackson V should had a wildcat play.

[@lukeraispis403]

Honestly, I don’t understand why they don’t let Redshirt Freshman Hank Brown come in and play, we’ve only seen him against Maryland in the Bowl game and Alabama A&M, and in that bowl game he looked way more confident and made way quicker reads. I know the offensive line didn’t hold up as good as it should’ve, but Payton waited way too long to make reads. I’d rather see the young guy get a chance to develop instead of a 5th year senior throw for 100 yards and 4 picks.

[@JD-iu3vi]

This was eye opening. Thorne was probably 35% to blame but most of the blame is on the coaches. Multiple players not in the right places, running wrong routes and not executing properly. Coaching is to blame for these problems not talent of players. Freeze keeps whining about talent but he needs to look in the mirror first.

[@jordanmyers487]

Not only can Payton Thorne throw a ball. He can throw a game.

[@Unapologeticlibertarian1]

We need a follow up and comparison between Thorne and Hank.

[@user-wf6vs3vo1t]

Aaron I’m not understanding why u are saying Thorne isn’t to blame but you are seeing that he’s making mistakes are things that are taught in highschool ball

[@JD-iu3vi]

I guess he can't just come out and say that the coaches are idiots.

[@bd3598_]

My lord this makes me feel ten times worse about Thorne. Dude is clearly not a starting quarterback 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@stevenmoor5486]

At the 4:30 mark, that was a TD. You need to give that one credit to Thorne and Lambert-Smith!

[@bksellers64]

Thorne is a 6th year senior, 4th year starter, if he hasn't figured this out by now, he's not going to. That being said, I was not impressed by the play calls/design during the game, less so after seeing this cutup. I don't know what the down and distance on these plays were but it seemed like the LB's were either blitzing or getting really deep drops. Either way, screens and draws would have made them pay, we have 6'4" TE that are always open on a quick slant, especially when the LB's are getting such deep drops. PT rushed/scrambled 15 times while all three backs carried the ball 15 times for 78 yards. That's 5.2 yd/carry we should have leaned on the run especially once it was clear that PT was going to struggle. Freeze trying to force his style of offense and we don't have the players to execute it. I didn't see anything in these plays that put the defense in conflict, not even the LBs. Establish the run, set up play action, keep it simple. Thorn is not a gun slinger. He doesn't read defenses pre-snap, doesn't feel comfortable sitting in the pocket and scanning the entire field, takes him too long. Anything over 3 seconds is too long, and considering this oline is fairly new, I'd say 2 - 2.5 seconds. Payton's passing stats and efficiency are actually slightly better than those of Brandon Cox, and Peyton has wheels, Brandon didn't but BC started for 3 years and went 29-9, not great but that was against some pretty stiff competition. Two of those wins came against UF during the Tebow years, one of them when they won the NC, and about 8 or 9 wins against Top 10 teams. But Al Borges gave BC an offense he could manage. I think the last time we defeated a Top 10 team is when we beat Alabama in 2019, they were #5. So Coach Murray, what kind of adjustments would you make if you were the OC?

[@Wareagle9203]

You didn’t directly blame Throne but you definitely described him being at fault.

[@ethanheard9208]

Thankyou for showing how it was ENTIRELY his fault to underthroe 40 yard routes when he had 2 other receivers wide open for a first down EVERY. SINGLE. FUCKING. TIME

[@masontaylor1967]

How did you get the All 22 film? Really interested to see if there’s anyway to pay for this?

[@bobwilliams5506]

What do you mean by "nothing there"? That was a TD.

[@Flamincow67]

Thorne made some bad calls, but it seems like 90% of the time he just had no good options. With the pass rush as strong as it was, why were there so few check down routes? Even the "short" plays were 10+ yards. Every QB is gonna miss some calls in the middle of a game, but there should be 0 routes that leave a guy like this asking why. It's a coaching problem when you're paying a guy $6.5 million and there are obvious problems in your play design. Also lets not forget that coaches can talk to players now, so no excuse for bad clock management or throwing to a clearly injured receiver.

[@PrenticeJones-fh2ew]

Are you kidding me? He doesn't work the field or go through his progressions. There were plenty of oppourtunities to throw the ball.

[@tyronelong5670]

Now, the coaches have tablets on the sideline to show the players what was done wrong when the offense is on the sideline while the defense is on the field. No excuse not to make adjustments!!

[@stormofbam]

The only place I saw where peyton Thorne wasn't to blame was the title of the video

[@chrispate7354]

You made a good case as to WHY it WAS Thorne’s fault. However not entirely. Coach should have yanked him and went with the back up.

[@grahamfowler7017]

At 4:30 you said “rolls out tries to make a play, but nothing there for Peyton Thorne”. He threw a TD…. That scramble roll out throw was ruled a TD.

[@sonnyh9774]

at 4:30 Thorne throws a touchdown and Murray says "nothing there, Patton has to eat it".... C'mon Murray... how can you miss a touchdown pass from Thorne and a great catch by the receiver?

[@beauandmarion2630]

Yeah, there’s a ton of QB to QB sympathy here. It’s dense to think everything is one player’s fault, but there’s no defending Thorne here. He’s a fifth year senior who can’t read a defense. The Freeze system is incredibly QB friendly, it’s really hard for a guy to fail this miserably. There’s legitimate home run threats that spread the field now. You can no longer shift the blame onto the WR room as you could last season. The whole argument for Thorne is that he’s a stable, veteran presence in an otherwise young offense. The kind of guy who won’t really win you games, but won’t lose them for you either. Yesterday ripped that argument to shreds. There’s no benefit to playing Thorne over any of Hank Brown, Holden Gernier, or Walker White if the floor is this low.

[@turtle1897]

What Aaron is telling us is that PT can’t read a defense for one and he’s locked in on the primaries and tries to make the primary work No progression whatsoever

[@michaelstrane3254]

Titles the video "Why Payton Thorne Is Not To Blame" Spends 25 minutes exhibiting how Payton Thorne IS to blame

[@adamcordell7750]

25:07 “receiver’s just jogging”. Because Coleman hurt his shoulder on the previous play and couldn’t come out to avoid stoppage of snap for defensive subs. Thorne has to recognize that.

[@bud4au575]

I find your review confusing .. you say in the video several times that throne is to blame ... which is it ?

[@jakenail99]

1:52 anticiptaion from your *5TH YEAR* QB lol.

[@TrEuDaT]

Please apply for a job at AU to help Freeze and our QBs. We need you desperately

[@CoreyUnderwood-m9s]

Being a life long auburn fan this pains me.. I don’t want to put the blame all on one player.. but I damn sure don’t want a 5th losing season either, I thought we would be better yr 2 of Coach HF. I’m not jumping off the ship just yet but it’s gonna be hard to make something of this season if we don’t improve IMMEDIATELY

[@patfan8312]

In every play theirs a wide open receiver that he misses or doesn’t even attempt the throw….im hoping it was just Auburn underestimating Cal because of last week… I’m thinking Hugh makes some adjustments and we’ll still have a solid season…as an Auburn fan we all know we play up or play down to our competition

[@jeremycagle3890]

Thanks man I really appreciate the breakdown from someone that truly gives a fair report!

[@SnapsCFB_]

Glad it was helpful!

[@JustinClayton]

sounds like a lot of blame is on thorne.

[@rwhitting102]

I watched the entire video and fail to see how Thorne wasn’t at fault! Looks to me like he just won’t throw the ball when he’s supposed to, same as last year!

[@footfunk510]

Looks like enough blame to go around whether it was Thorne, receivers running wrong routes and OC's not calling great plays.

[@felixthecat2276]

Aaron, i remember when you was the QB at Georgia and I hated you! Lol 😂. I really think you need to get a GA job on the offense under some badass offense coach!

[@felixthecat2276]

Sorry bud, I still think at least 60% of this is on Payton.

[@ashton7527]

Maaaaaan sounds like most of those plays were Thorne’s fault. I guess where it falls on Freeze is calling a lot of medium and deep pass plays for a guy that can’t properly read coverages and isn’t very accurate. Idk what else you do though. Thorne is scared to throw in the middle of the field and if we run quick screens every play it’s going to be a whole lot of 3 and outs.

[@dancetoimpress]

So based on the film you reviewed, I counted 12 mistakes by PT alone. That's too many mistakes given the number of passes Auburn attempted. You didn't even show all of his throws or his INT's either. So if I had to guess, Thorne made 16-19 critical mistakes in the game against Cal.

[@youngdizzp]

4th a 2 and throws a fade over his left shoulder? Yea lets not blame Thorne for that even though lambert smith was wide open.

[@123Keel]

I think a better title is “Thorne isn’t solely to blame.” I’m picking up what you’re putting down with the scheme, and the RBs crowding passing lanes. You did a good job to touch on him needing to get the ball out quicker on most of his poor plays. However, you showed 1/2 of his interceptions, and basically blamed Cam Coleman for one of them because he was jogging/hurt. Coaches should’ve pulled him out of the game if he’s hurt, sure, but Thorne had to have the awareness not to throw the ball to the banged up guy. Auburn wins that game with better a more accurate and more decisive QB.

[@MaximusD180]

I feel like the 4 interceptions were mostly his fault. He hasn't been impressive at Auburn last year and I see no change this season. Put in the Rook!

[@adamcordell7750]

I get it. We ran play action power one time, and Frazier at sniffer/h-back completely whiffs the block. Total lack of effort. I also get he was a little under duress. He definitely holds on to the ball way too long. With as much pressure they brought, we surely had 1-on-1 matchups that were not found, and if they weren’t won, then at least give a play a chance instead of taking the sack and killing the drive. And the last interception? Total lack of will to win. Terrible effort. Terrible attitude.

[@Mikevdog]

Thorne is no better or worse than the average Auburn quarterback

[@hunterhanna4749]

Um that was a touchdown throw to KLS on the busted curl route. It was an imorov play. Best play of the day for Auburn