Why people LOVE the Avengers but HATE the X-Men

A large part of the public in the Marvel universe hates, persecutes, and discriminates against mutants because they are different, but at the same time, they applaud the Avengers, who are also different from normal people because they have superpowers and special abilities. In this video, we explain why this double standard exists and how it reflects what we experience in the real world.
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[@samuelmackenzie5267]

It’s just as ultron says: “you want to protect the world; but you don’t want it to change. How is humanity saved if it’s not allowed to evolve.” That in itself is the reason why I prefer the x-men to the avengers, they are fight for a better future for all of humanity both mutant and human alike whilst the avengers fight to keep the statue quo the same. Whether the avengers like it or not change is inevitable.

[@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095]

X-Men just feels more adult than the Avengers. The main threat of prejudice against the mutants is their biggest issue, and to me, that prejudice is never shown in the Avengers. Everyone is just praised as a hero for doing stuff to save others in the Avengers, but in the X-Men, they are seen not as heroes, but villains. Even though they help humans (some of them) most humans don’t like them and fear them.

[@Smirk_Blur]

@@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095 Because in the X-Men, mutants are seen as the next step in evolution, and the humans are afraid that evolution will leave them behind. The supers in the avengers, are NOT mutants. I’m pretty sure they classify as mutates instead.

[@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095]

@@Smirk_Blur Well most of them are mutates and I know what you mean, it’s just that the running theme of prejudice against the X-Men makes it feel more adult in tone. Atleast to me.

[@Smirk_Blur]

@@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095 Yea, that makes sense

[@Vertigo97]

That’s actually incredibly deep. Avengers really fight against change but without change the x men only fight for it. They really have almost opposite motives.

[@azuresaiyan9005]

1:17 I mean, in most stories Spider-man and Hulk are pretty divisive figures in universe. Some stories even accuse Spidey of being a mutant.

[@mrheadcannon]

It depends on the writers, but that's mostly Jameson trying to make Spidey look bad. Generally he doesn't have such a bad reputation as the mutants.

[@chimera916]

​@@mrheadcannon People are not aware of Peter Parker's story, for them he could easily be a mutant. There's no difference between Tigra and Beast, Human Torch and Iceman or Magick and Doctor Strange in the eye of the public. People hate X-men because they are a suprematist and isolationist club of karens who loves to remark to be different from the rest of humanity. Avengers are heroes who try to integrate among common people, that's why mutants are beloved when they are in the ranks of avengers: Beast, Rogue, Wolverine, Storm, Scarlet, Quicksilver, even Namor have been seen and considered as true heroes by people when they behaved as that, stopping to act like X-men.

[@kaylemjoseph8727]

X-men are better than avengers when their stories are actually done right.

[@TravelTechie415]

blame Bryan Singer

[@mansoursiddiqi930]

Dude this guy is talking about why the x men are hated IN the MARVEL universe not by us irl

[@iloveutubesince3207]

X-Men stories tend to be either sophomoric drama or Prof X and Magneto splitting the kids after their divorce along with Charles Xavier yelling "eRiK dOnT dO iT" over and over and over.

[@Thebluemonkey69]

Fax’s

[@vusherman1125]

are actually done right?? stop the delusional, i would say equal good. no damn way x-men would better than avengers

[@J4-inquisitive-elite-iris]

you earned a sub with this video, you explained it really well and the references to the 97 series checks out.

[@mrheadcannon]

Thanks! 🤗

[@Octavian-245]

I will always like the X-Men more than The Avengers

[@SSingh-nr8qz]

I can sum it up simply. The X Men's core story was an analogy for bigotry. That's why the X Men as a story lasted for decades. It forced people to look at the ugly mirror of judging a group of people and tried to be fair to all perspectives. Example. You have Professor X with an idealistic philosophy, while Magneto shares some sentiments with Professor X, Magneto sees his "race" as a superior evolution. Then you have the human side that actually have a legit reason to fear mutants and have seen bad mutants do real world damage. What I loved about the X Men is exploring these ideas. The Avengers was never meant to be an analogy for a segment of society.

[@billiejo2004]

I'd like to see Wolverine and Iron Man get together.😊

[@yellxbxn3]

Captain America became the president before gta 6

[@lperezph]

Biden: Hello

[@yellxbxn3]

@@lperezph I was joking bruh

[@Angel_sanchez.z]

But how are people gona know how Spider-Man got his powers? They can think his a mutant or hulk too

[@colonelcider8292]

Well the mutants are like vegans if they are one, you're going to know cause every other sentence is how they are one

[@matityaloran9157]

The anti-mutant prejudice makes a lot more sense (vis à vis worldbuilding) in the Fox movies

[@cold485]

The problem is "evolution" isn't a thing they have to worry about. More like. "Oh that guys weird." Vs a whole race is being birthed genetically to replace us. With superheros I guess a human can also kinda be one. You can't just be a mutant though in the mutant world. The first mutant was probably not as scary as an evolutionary threat. 1 Spiderman doesn't change anything. A lot of babies being born with Spiderman jeans is kinda scary😂. It's a different story

[@matityaloran9157]

@@cold485 In-universe the first Mutant wanted to be a god and nearly started the Apocalypse. (Assuming X-Men:Apocalypse is consistent with the original lore.)

[@giyuutomioka6974]

Me personally, i think its rather stupid people fear mutants. I mean, literally, if mutants were real, i could've been standing right next to one and it wouldn't make a difference. Plus, even when some characters arent mutants, they could present themselves as a mutant. Juggernaut, deadpool, Spider-Man and even hulk can be classed this way. Spider-Man and nightcrawler can both cling to surfaces Juggernaut isnt a mutant but people often think he is. And its a common misconception. Hulk may not have had powers from birth, but he is similar to beast, who is a mutant. They both have genius intellect, both have a skin color that isnt normal, and both have enhanced physical attributes. Even tony stark and bastion can be similar since they both are intimately associated with tech. Sometimes even enhanced physical attributes and senses are a mutant ability. Wolverine is a mutant with enhanced senses, and daredevil is human with heightened senses at the cost of being blind. And not everyone fears daredevil. Some find him intimidating but he isnt a mutant.

[@SSingh-nr8qz]

To play devils advocate, in the real world you don't need lots of people to create massive amounts of death and destruction. Example, if you look up crime stats or terrorism stats, you will find that roughly 5% of the human population actually does criminal violence. That means 95% are good or at least non violent. Yet those 5% are the reason we have militaries, cops, prisons, and lots of mourning families. What I'm pointing out is the power of 1 person focused of harm and how that plays out in loss of life in the real world. I person can kill many people. They can inspire uprising and chaos. They can create nightmares in history. NOW I want to to imagine that one person now has Mutant powers that science can barely understand since its unique from person to person. In the wrong hands, that kind of person should be feared.

[@colonelcider8292]

If you were a mutant it would make a difference Firstly it depends on what kind of mutant you are You could be like Kitty Pryde, Professor X, Magneto, etc. If you don't use your abilities no one would know unless you tell them But if you are like Cyclopes then just by opening your eyes, you are a terrorist. Destroying infrastructure and killing a great number of people. You can get the really short end of the stick and be a mutant who can evaporate the people around you just by being in close proximity to others. Secondly, job security. Mutants are better humans so they are better workers and so there is less of a need for you. People hate AI and immigrants because of job security. Mutants are like immigrants on crack, they'll take your job and do it 10x better Thirdly people would fear being the subject of bigotry As stated Mutants are just better humans. If the Mutants draw the line between being one and not, giving out special benefits to Mutants and treating non-mutants badly. Is that not fearful to you? What if they decide that Mutant kind are the new Apex race and everything/everyone else are considered animals There are plenty of things to fear about the Mutant population Being a Mutant and not being one is a clear divide and it doesn't help that one species is far superior than the other If Mutants existed in real life It would be nothing like the comics cause there really is nothing humanity could do to stop radical mutants and there would be no point in going to war with mutants as anyone with half a brain cell would understand the fact humanity would lose a all out battle. Might as well live with them and hope they don't abuse the powers they have. Just let humanity go extinct as the mutant population just takes over

[@TheTrueZenix]

i agree but thats what the xmen are wrote about thats what their comics stand for, its kinda hard to see how they live in the same world as the avengers esp when their comics are so extreme.

[@TheTrueZenix]

The real reason the xmen are hated so much was bc it was wrote that way lol, the writers intentionally did that for a comparision to similar things in the real world. The problem is that doesnt work too well in the modern day, there is no way that most humans would fear mutants like that. They dont even know how the other superhero's got their powers anyways so irl they would probably think their mutants. Even if people were scared of them no one would allow people to get percecuted and mass murdered by sentinals both humans and mutants would stand up against that esp nowdays. Its not our fault the writers decided to make their world so extreme, like instead of peaceful protest you see mutants in movies raiding the white house demanding for equality... you see what i mean by they write their world is so extreme LOL, like thats not helping and irl i dont think anyone would do stuff like that. It honestly makes it hard to see how they live in the same world as the avengers. So instead of it being tame and like mutants begging for equality, which they would probably get irl in a more accepting society, they are wrote in extreme ways and hated in extreme ways which is supposed to be fueled by fear but comes off borderline racist. Which honestly makes it hard to read sometimes but i still love the xmen tho.

[@davidvreeland5116]

@TheTrueZenix If Mutants existed today there’s no way that they would exist side by side. A society cannot function if part of the population has superhuman abilities and another doesn’t.

[@nathan-fj2fi]

Honestly the people who love the Avengers but hate the mutant race in the marvel universe are just hypocrites

[@rahul4167]

Avengers feel like royalty or the favourite child who gets all the good shit, x-men feel like DC or a middle child who many don’t really care much about who just exist for the sake of existing is the beat way i can describe it

[@Susi092]

Ironic

[@chimera916]

No, x-men are an isolationist and suprematist club who love to remark their differences, avengers are heroes who accept everyone and integrate themselves among common people... That why people love mutants when they act like avengers instead of racist karens (Beast, Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Scarlet, Quicksilver, Sunspot, Cannonball... Even Namor)

[@Smirk_Blur]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@chimera916Dude, what are you talking about? A “suprematist club” wouldn’t be saving humans and literally going to war with magneto, you know, the guy who hates humans! When are they being racist?! (Edit: they remark their differences because that’s whats special about them, and they are not “isolationists” they literally accept humans at Xavier’s school alongside mutants. please use your brain for the purpose it was given to you for)

[@breaderikthegreat3224]

Also most X-men villains are mutants So if mutants didn't exist, they might not ne able to safe us from danger, but the danger wouldn't exist as well

[@jeremychristianestillore1446]

I think that's besides the point of X-Men for me.

[@Smirk_Blur]

Same thing can be said about the avenger’s villains tho. “Oh the villains are human, so that means humans should be extinct!”

[@RajivKumar-xp9qn]

​@@Smirk_Blurthe people being saved are also humans... so you are required to think from their pov... that's where your argument fails.

[@Smirk_Blur]

@@RajivKumar-xp9qn Your argument also fails when you ignore that the mutants aren’t just villains, that’s generalizing an entire race. You’re also forgetting that 9/10 the “bad guy” mutants are against humans for a reason.

[@mbriancohen]

Wait... People DO hate Hulk and Spider-Man. That's half their deal.

[@DanPankrat]

Nope. Only Marvel writers

[@DromolZ]

​@@DanPankrat nope in universe too

[@vijaytamishra453]

people do hate them, but not because they are diffrent, hulk is only hated because of his potential distruction, and spidey is hated because of jameson

[@stevecarlos4860]

Actor Joe Locke has opened up about the Disney Plus series Agatha All Along and also confirmed his character's sexuality.

[@yeetboiwhatyesplease2095]

8:48 Storm can literally act as a power plant lol. Farm energy off of lightning.

[@dotan_st]

Who the hell doesn't love the X-Men? My favorite character right now is Wolverine

[@Samuel_Burgess_]

Not what he istalking about

[@Reypalpatine630]

The real reason is cause the XMen have always been an Allegory for Civil rights. Yes they are all from the same marvel universe but specifically the writers of the x men wanted to right about a group of misfits who were discriminated against by society but still wants to help , sorta like a Diverse Cop or Diverse Doctor . However this underlining meaning is not in the avengers story's because that's just a super hero team up group the writers didn't shove the double meaning of civil rights in there

[@michaelmonthey5974]

It wouldn’t bother me at all if mutants replace humanity and, based on their bigoted and violent behaviors towards mutants, perhaps it’s better that way. The Avengers are too afraid to solve the core problems, which is why the X-Men are better.

[@muyeonglee2682]

Mutants and humans are the exact same fundamentally. You think people with an oppressed past don't act the same later on, or don't repeat the cycle in spite?

[@michaelmonthey5974]

@@muyeonglee2682 What matters is that mutants have been oppressed for too long and humans are apparently incapable of peacefully coexisting with them. Mutants want to be respected and accepted, but the humans drew first blood.

[@RajivKumar-xp9qn]

​@@michaelmonthey5974 if such a thing occurred in reality and the mutants were worthy enough to be considered a threat, either they would have been stopped right at the start or much more likely, they would have enslaved the humans. Unfortunately that's not a good thing to write in a comic which humans are gonna read 😂

[@wesjfaria]

X-men is about racism…that’s why

[@35pen61]

in summary when weif saw an incredibly talented person whos human (mutate) such as in photography we like them even cheered for them and in the other hand we fear of ai (mutant) taking over illustration industry and replacing talented people

[@arthurgomes8214]

The X-men casually use their powers to fuck with and threaten random people on the street (Mostly Wolverine threatening to stab people)

[@omarstone4637]

Wolverine should be the one to sacrifice himself to save the multiverse

[@zarombiste9158]

Xmen are awesome, I wasn’t aware that people like more avengers?

[@Samuel_Burgess_]

He is talking about in MCU universe. People fear the mutants and love the avengers . That's what he is talking about

[@Flyhigh19xx]

Who hates the xmen?Is this from inside the comics point of view ?

[@matityaloran9157]

It is

[@Kai_hasLitten]

All of Marvel is My Favorite Including Avengers, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy

[@Wreighn]

And how would the population know that Spiderman is not a mutant?

[@23bitchris60]

Its funny how mutants only exist bc Stan Lee ran out of ideas of how characters got their powers.

[@Vikkibro90]

how do people in universe manage to see the difference on if someone is a mutant or not a mutant? it is not like they have stories telling them how each superhero got their powers like how we can read their comic books, watch movies, etc.

[@hyperburno7310]

What? People love X men way more then the Avengers, you do realize. Oh, i thought this was a meta video talking about the audience. I get it now

[@ryanhouse3994]

But Spider-Man’s identity is secret right so how would anyone know that he’s not a mutant?

[@jeromelancashire3278]

2:04 Shouldn't they hate him more?

[@ivantheterrible2594]

To me the X-Men are bigger and better heroes than the Avengers because they fight for a world that hates and fears them, but they still go out of their way to help people and protect the world in spite of all the hate and intolerance.

[@soramirez5473]

cuz the avengers movies were more comic accurate, with charm and comedy, minimal cringe the X-Men movies were not very comic accurate, some comedy, questionable casting

[@stevecarlos4860]

Disney Plus series Agatha All Along and also confirmed his character's sexuality.

[@michaelmercury1297]

You explained it pretty good.

[@loreze4884]

This makes so much sense damn

[@armorbearer9702]

You made some good points. The current humans are prioritizing their own well being instead of thinking about their children's future.

[@VGHallow]

Well this aged well

[@SolidBedunga]

Akira Fudo jumpscare

[@mrheadcannon]

Of course, it's my old friend Ryo!

[@SolidBedunga]

@@mrheadcannon I love them both so much

[@lalainaramarivelo]

That's a rather weaka$$ argument. The X-Men are feared because they were born this way, the avengers are not because they have mutated... I mean, can't we just accept that the X-Men writers couldn't be bothered about a more nuanced approach and just went for the us vs them rhetoric which is deep and layered lol.

[@TheTrueZenix]

lol true

[@gustwilliams-xp3mb]

I think at one point X-Men will in up part of the AVENGERS in a movie

[@matityaloran9157]

I actually am quite fond of the X-Men movies

[@Adamatronamus]

I always wondered why all the xmen films have bad endings where the humans never win.

[@DarkBowserr]

I grew up with the avengers I was never really into the xmen besides wolverine

[@crew6227]

I like the X Men way more than the Avengers

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

Would the Fantastic Four count as mutates?

[@colonelcider8292]

No, they got their powers from space Reed's son is a mutant tho

[@Extremechannel123]

So cool 🎉

[@ElliottLarner-qi9yt]

PEOPLE Love x men and avengers!

[@bashengatheblackmanta7003]

No explination will ever make sens. If it were the NUhumans(hybrid descendant of inhumans & humans), I wouod defenetly understand the hate since they are the result of an alien experiment from an alien race trying to extand their empire

[@Timber834]

It’s because of movie representation Avengers got cool movies that can appeal to all with a lot of cool action and a loveable cast So everyone who hasn’t read the comics see the Avengers as the face of marvel The X-men probably did have a couple good movies as they were milking Wolverine but it was old timey so people don’t really re-watch it unless they are a diehard fan of x-men They even messed up the X-men costumes making them all black instead of the unique colors that actually gave them cool designs So everyone associates the Movie X-men with all X-men

[@Chad0023]

mutates are born with different DNA that's literally how they can get powers while normal pple would die if they got beaten by radioactive spiders etc

[@Zer069n]

So in short humans are racist against mutants

[@VIRALUZI]

Whose we💀 we all like the xmen

[@Anjana-]

I love Xmen movies the only problem Xmen had was they couldn't make movies in a good way like avengers infinity saga

[@unknownstudd69]

All I’m gonna say is “Mutant and proud”

[@MaxPS9]

Shut up people love the xmen

[@MohsanPeerzada]

When you told me this in 2018 I would have said yes

[@christianroylammawin5101]

Nah, we want the avengers because they are all like us, just an ordinary guys.. Their story corelate to us..

[@kaushal.creation]

Not a not comic book reader but i have seen all the X-Men films and all the Marvel films and I like Avengers way more than X-Men because Avengers feels like a group of powerful individuals with mutual interest but not a family but X-Men feels like a family so technically X-Men should be better right but no that's because of different kind of ideology between the members of Avengers watching them interacting feels interesting but watching X-Men doesn't and name "Avengers" is way cooler than "X-Men" and X-Men is mainly about Xavier, Logan and Magneto in Films and their stories always revolves around saving Mutants from Humans but Avengers is like group of superhero come together only if there is a high dangerous threat. So that premiumness comes with Avengers.

[@evenlmadeaway]

The Fantastic 4 left the chat

[@mrheadcannon]

That would be a nice topic for another video, maybe when the movie comes out 🤔

[@GifMaker-n8r]

I always found it weird how stryker in the comics is a religious extremist who believes Mutants are basically abominations in the eyes of God yet ignores literal Gods like Thor or Zeus

[@shinzay7888]

Fire

[@NALYD04]

im the opposite tbh i prefer xmen movies way more than avengers. bit more of a serious and dark undertone to the xmen movies and more relatable and more original in ways.

[@Aiden_Salad25]

People hate the X-men?!

[@gorcsauce696]

Before 2011 it was xmen they loved and spiderman fantastic 4 hulk now it just avengers and spiderman

[@Gumshoe08]

Who hates the xmen?

[@matityaloran9157]

In the X-Men universe, anti-Mutant people are prejudiced against Mutants including the X-Men

[@shanedoesntplay5211]

I love both

[@Packirup1234]

pretty sure peopple dont know hulk and spidermans origin story in the marvel verse to say they are diffrent from mutants mutants dont even make sense to me considering they are so much yet they are never really shown how can the entire world be in danger and not one mutant with powers step up marvel messed up when creating the mutant idea and impplicating it into the same universe as other heroes

[@Sinzari]

The original X men series was loved unanimously, not sure what you mean by people hate x men.

[@jeromelancashire3278]

Oh, you're talking in the verse ok,

[@MaxPS9]

Oh never mind your talking about the people in the movies

[@studio96films65]

I think the new X-Men should take place in a new reality where the Avengers don’t exist and the X-Men are an established team. Kinda go for the same tone and style as X-Men 97. Probably go for more modern timeline or maybe take it to the 90’s like the animated series.

[@SSingh-nr8qz]

Nothing stopping Marvel from doing that but that is too good of an idea, so Marvel won't do it. I have said for years how an overloaded superhero world makes no sense in the long term. The world works in balance. You would think with so many God like heroes, you would have solved all of the worlds issues and many of which would prevent many of the reasons people become super villians in the first place.

[@SteelCaiman]

Bad execution in x men movies

[@symesalexander5294]

I love the X - MEN ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Yes ouiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii X - MEN JUSTICE LEAGUE FANTASTIC FOUR THE AVENGERS OUI

[@HiIlikeme]

X men doesn't have any villain they just convert one of their member into bad guy and at the end of the movie they forgive him and again he is memeber of x men movie stories are worst lack of continuity

[@philipandrelogonzales2569]

Avengers is just better and surperior