Why Playing Doomfist Feels Awful - Overwatch 2

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Overwatch 2 Doomfist is underwhelming, let's take a look at Why Playing Doomfist Feels Awful
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@chewy4722
@chewy4722 Жыл бұрын
another example: junkrat made concussion mines out of literal garbage and they can do double to damage
@cheese7560
@cheese7560 Жыл бұрын
Same
@velqix7938
@velqix7938 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@ImTheOfficialFox
@ImTheOfficialFox Жыл бұрын
​@@Deus-Libertatis same
@jackyoz_1074
@jackyoz_1074 Жыл бұрын
TwT they got nerfed tho
@theguythatgivesyouoneextra4134
@theguythatgivesyouoneextra4134 Жыл бұрын
@@cheese7560 did you just admit to making bombs
@hurkypandora82
@hurkypandora82 Жыл бұрын
Doomfist has become the literal meme of the Boss when you fight him vs when you unlock him
@Gegnog
@Gegnog Жыл бұрын
420th like
@Priinsu
@Priinsu Жыл бұрын
Super Robot Wars does this so much its actually super frustrating. There will be a boss with 16,000 HP, who dodges damn near everything you throw at them, has barriers, and hits like a truck. Then, they switch over to your side for you to use and they instantly get massively nerfed in all areas.😑
@Husk-c8f
@Husk-c8f Жыл бұрын
In the cinematic where he fought 3 Overwatchs heroes at once, (I forgot 2 of them), he was fighting enraged winston which is past Super Human level. Here he does 50 damage with what is supposed to be one of the strongest and most feared hitting in overwatch lore.
@disappointedfather5218
@disappointedfather5218 Жыл бұрын
​@@Husk-c8f the other two are Genji and Tracer
@marcosc869
@marcosc869 Жыл бұрын
Aurelion sol before rework
@alwin_nagel_fan8865
@alwin_nagel_fan8865 Жыл бұрын
Ramattra has more of a Doomfist than Doomfist himself
@MaddixCuhming
@MaddixCuhming Жыл бұрын
Ramattra has a better block both both blocks r just a worse version of a reinheart shield
@granityseis104
@granityseis104 Жыл бұрын
no
@nediAW
@nediAW Жыл бұрын
@@granityseis104 yeah, each Ram punch is 60 damage. Rams punch lasts 8 sec. effectively 480 damage. 6 times that if doom
@QaundaleDingl
@QaundaleDingl Жыл бұрын
It’s ridiculous that the devs haven’t realized how bad doomfist is compared to rammattra
@granityseis104
@granityseis104 Жыл бұрын
@@QaundaleDingl no,they know how bad it is,it is simply making doomfist making powerfull reduces enjoyment of other players,specially supports,they nerfed briggida for the same reason.
@laszlogruber3794
@laszlogruber3794 Жыл бұрын
I went from one tapping squishies to just tapping squishies.
@loserinasuit7880
@loserinasuit7880 Жыл бұрын
Hot
@Kvzadlchuga
@Kvzadlchuga Жыл бұрын
Four tapping squishies
@theiceygamer4742
@theiceygamer4742 Жыл бұрын
As a Lućio main getting punched by it went from ah I’m not gonna survive this to ah I’m mildly inconvenienced anyways…
@SgtWienerberg
@SgtWienerberg Жыл бұрын
I went from being terrified to play support while there was a doom to “oh hey look, he poked me and i murdered him in self defense”
@mythicaltwinkie8216
@mythicaltwinkie8216 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, getting one tapped isn't really fun for the DPS, and the whole point of the game is to be fun.
@jmun3688
@jmun3688 Жыл бұрын
it's even worse when you realize zens melee does 45 damage
@igga_hd
@igga_hd Ай бұрын
Falcon punch vs Falcon kick
@Leostar-Regalius
@Leostar-Regalius Жыл бұрын
anyone remember his introduction video where he had basically wiped the floor with the overwatch members and it took Winston going rage mode to stop him?
@hasturthekinginyellow5003
@hasturthekinginyellow5003 Жыл бұрын
Remember when a 1v1 between a Tracer and a Doomfist was *THE* moment you could prove yourself as a Doomfist main? Show yourself how you have mastered Doomfist by reading the Tracer´s movements and anticipated her, it was that ability that separated mortals from gods. in OW2 Tracer can solo Doomfist with absolutely no effort, and even if Doom manage to hit her, she can survive a full combo
@timothyparham5064
@timothyparham5064 Жыл бұрын
@@hasturthekinginyellow5003 Silver take.
@josephdellaripa5081
@josephdellaripa5081 Жыл бұрын
@@timothyparham5064 You 100% don't play doom
@timothyparham5064
@timothyparham5064 Жыл бұрын
@@josephdellaripa5081 Oh really? And because I don't have issues with tracer on old doom or new doom means I don't play him at all. But oh, it's so hard to hit a 150 HP hero as a 450 HP tank that has a way higher skill ceiling than mosquito lesbian. Guess I don't play him.
@Holyghost_444
@Holyghost_444 5 ай бұрын
@@timothyparham5064”mosquito lesbian” 🤣🤣
@PoIaring
@PoIaring Жыл бұрын
At this point, just change his name to Fist
@captaincowboy2994
@captaincowboy2994 Жыл бұрын
Or slap
@-Core-
@-Core- Жыл бұрын
Badslap
@InstagramWanker
@InstagramWanker Жыл бұрын
"JustFist"
@sutirk
@sutirk Жыл бұрын
Doomed fist
@cannonsword1
@cannonsword1 Жыл бұрын
mid fist
@IronMan-ds5bi
@IronMan-ds5bi Жыл бұрын
I miss Doomfist's DPS days...
@thedetectove
@thedetectove Жыл бұрын
Same here. I dropped the character entirely because I hated the tank doomfist play style.
@hectoralvarez7785
@hectoralvarez7785 Жыл бұрын
@@thedetectove same here
@lunawashington1060
@lunawashington1060 Жыл бұрын
As a support main, I truly do not miss it. It is one thing to be pushed around like a pinball. However, it is another to find out that pinball just lost it's life and has to respawn to rinse and repeat the entire game :) I like Doomfist as a character though and I will say they really botched this one.
@destinywhigham7961
@destinywhigham7961 Жыл бұрын
I don't lmao to hell with the fucking insta-kill on 4 second cool down. Good riddance
@محمدالعتيبي-غ2ب5ي
@محمدالعتيبي-غ2ب5ي Жыл бұрын
I don’t :)
@AwkCrafty
@AwkCrafty Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry OW1 Doom mains. I'm praying for you.
@secretaryberd2899
@secretaryberd2899 Жыл бұрын
i have 1300 hours on doom with hanzo being my second most played character at 28 hours. DoomPrimaryFire isn’t the same
@latinletters1700
@latinletters1700 9 ай бұрын
I got 1074 hours on doom here and man he just sucks to play he gets cced by everything cant tank shit cant pick supports since they all have get out of jail free card he just cant really do anything
@EliiKlee
@EliiKlee 8 ай бұрын
​@@latinletters1700yea hes definitly the second worst tank to get counterpicked (ball is just plain useless with a sombra/cassidy/ana on the enemy team he got it worse)
@marcelohenrique1770
@marcelohenrique1770 6 ай бұрын
thanks for the prayers, he's way better now, but still kinda hard to play
@teejay1646
@teejay1646 2 ай бұрын
I'm not. The tank rework was objectively the correct decision in every single way and dps doom players enjoyed a horrible extremely cheesy play style that actively punished good positioning
@dogs-game-too
@dogs-game-too Жыл бұрын
Literally everyone does more damage punching with a regular melee than his uncharged gauntlet punch, which makes absolutely zero sense.
@wanted_melon2348
@wanted_melon2348 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget Orisa's spear which does the same thing as Doom's punch but does more damage and is a projectile
@fakepizzahutdominos3048
@fakepizzahutdominos3048 Жыл бұрын
and slows and headshots for some reason and has the biggest hitbox in the game
@mrspifff
@mrspifff Жыл бұрын
​@Fake Pizza Hut Domino's and allows you to not commit your whole self and position to put them against a wall
@granityseis104
@granityseis104 Жыл бұрын
no it does not move orisa
@wanted_melon2348
@wanted_melon2348 Жыл бұрын
@@granityseis104 what?
@bamboozledpotat
@bamboozledpotat Жыл бұрын
​@@granityseis104 but it's a free 110 damage with a 6 second cooldown Win win for orisa and L for mr leaky fists
@abclutchb7586
@abclutchb7586 Жыл бұрын
The real OGs understand why he’s getting a saitama skin.
@savagewaffles1006
@savagewaffles1006 Жыл бұрын
"One Punch is all I need."
@emotion1e55
@emotion1e55 Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@froxygaming120
@froxygaming120 Жыл бұрын
Not only need ogs i know lil about overwatch 1🤣 cuz youtube and yeah doomfist uppercut then punch just insta kill squishies
@cookieaddict5956
@cookieaddict5956 Жыл бұрын
I hate you
@IIAwfulWaffleII
@IIAwfulWaffleII Жыл бұрын
"ok"
@MrProteeus
@MrProteeus 10 ай бұрын
What’s worse is when you punch people sometimes they don’t even hit the wall no more they just slide right off it
@Our_Remedy
@Our_Remedy Жыл бұрын
I still think tankfist should be able to deal damage. Like that should be his thing. He's the tank with the lowest HP, he deserves some more damage
@isa300100
@isa300100 Жыл бұрын
Nah he has a lot of CC he doesn't need it.
@Our_Remedy
@Our_Remedy Жыл бұрын
​@@isa300100 you're probably right. It's just annoying that THE DOOMFIST does 80 damage under good conditions, but literal garbage does 100.
@granityseis104
@granityseis104 Жыл бұрын
no
@KikiCatMeow
@KikiCatMeow Жыл бұрын
@@Our_Remedygenuinely. Like in-universe Doomfist is one of the most powerful characters, and yet he feels so weak and underwhelming in-game
@jador9641
@jador9641 Жыл бұрын
​@@isa300100 Yeah, a punch that can only stun a single target for 0.5 seconds, and that is easy to dodge lol
@lolno6975
@lolno6975 Жыл бұрын
Streets remember DPS doomfist, with the 125 slam rollouts on Eichenwalde
@ZombieaidZ
@ZombieaidZ 4 ай бұрын
Man that shit was the best
@ChucktheSpicyChicken
@ChucktheSpicyChicken Ай бұрын
Seeing a Doomfist trimping across the map like he downed a tanker of redbull was the best thing ever…
@kerpjosales1615
@kerpjosales1615 Жыл бұрын
His name should be "InconvinienceFist"
@canadiangopnik7007
@canadiangopnik7007 Жыл бұрын
"MildDiscomfortFist"
@GhostyHomie
@GhostyHomie Жыл бұрын
SomeWhatOfAnAnnoyanceFist.
@Azrael_Hallow
@Azrael_Hallow Жыл бұрын
My friends and I call him “shitfist” and “midfist”
@brunyplayswastaken
@brunyplayswastaken 4 ай бұрын
@@Azrael_Hallow I've called him 'Foamfist' since October 4th 2022. still going strong.
@ghostlyswat12
@ghostlyswat12 Жыл бұрын
When you realise that torb basically removed bastions ability to repair himself 😅
@masterofthecontinuum
@masterofthecontinuum Жыл бұрын
He wants someone who needs him.
@efrainsilva1875
@efrainsilva1875 Жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear. Doomfist will be nerfed next patch
@twotonerebel2022
@twotonerebel2022 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a reason to nerf genji
@smusky4643
@smusky4643 Жыл бұрын
Please for the love of God... nerf Moira in Total Mayhem! She's broken, literally. Why play any other healer? She can go invincable invisable & gain a speed boost every 3 seconds with her phase shift, you can't kill her because she can spam a healing ball every 2 seconds, or a DMG ball if she decides to backline everyone squishy, kill them all, then focus the tanks and heal her entire team with the balls. They nerfed the shit out of Mei in Total Mayhem, she can't freeze shit and her healing shield takes forever to recharge, Ana's sleep dart has it's normal 16 sec cool down in it, I can't think of all the other abilities. But they made Moira overpowered, giving her dumb fast cooldowns on everything.
@luljenkings9850
@luljenkings9850 Жыл бұрын
​@@smusky4643 bro just learn to counter her Btw mei is still strong af they maybe nerfed her frezz but they Buffed her dmg so shes even deadlyer and even when you catch her she just frezzes and is full life again and when u finily cought her she Walls and pisses of Bro moira has a health Pool of 200 just burst her down or play hog and force her blink
@jador9641
@jador9641 Жыл бұрын
Seems a good reason to nerf Mercy GA of other 10 seconds.
@bamboozledpotat
@bamboozledpotat Жыл бұрын
​@@luljenkings9850 actually 400 and with the nerf roadhog got he cant get 2 hooks in a row on her to kill her anymore he has to get like 4 perfectly timed hooks on her and that's hoping shes solo and not getting bubbled or healed
@maganam4964
@maganam4964 Жыл бұрын
At this point we can't really call him DoomFIST but DoomPrimaryFire.
@aceplante
@aceplante Жыл бұрын
We all saw that video?
@maganam4964
@maganam4964 Жыл бұрын
@@aceplante Probably yes
@namino1330
@namino1330 Жыл бұрын
Punchie reference
@SpiritedFalcon
@SpiritedFalcon Жыл бұрын
Shootfist
@cakeyeater7392
@cakeyeater7392 2 ай бұрын
Doomknuckle
@jakobgray9899
@jakobgray9899 Жыл бұрын
I miss the angry grunting doomfist used to do when he charges up his punch. It made it feel so much more badass.
@ReddBoi64
@ReddBoi64 Жыл бұрын
Doomfist is a nightmare to balance because his design within a FPS is kinda impossible to simultaneously make “fun to play” AND “fun to play against” . Across OW’s history, Doomfist has always either been trash like he is now, or a menace to society who makes the game unplayable because you can’t walk 2 feet without getting, slammed, stunned, bounced, and launched into walls at high velocity. His placement as a basically melee only hero with little to no shields means either he needs to be practically unkillable through movement abilities and passives, or make him be able to instant kill people so he can get value, otherwise the second Doomfist jumps in he would be feeding. If they choose the former, well congrats you have a tank who is certainly annoying to play against, and since there’s only one tank now, somewhat annoying to have on your team if the enemy tank is making mincemeat of your teams back line while doom goes and fails to even kill a support. I hope that when… or if the PvE ever comes out, we get to play a lore accurate Doomfist who we don’t need to worry about the feelings of the enemies. PvE will let characters be broken for the sake of enjoyment.
@TheChrisB4188
@TheChrisB4188 2 ай бұрын
9 times out of 10 doomfist loses to Orisa, an omnic model that he canonically took down a whole army of…
@soulles-qo4iv
@soulles-qo4iv Жыл бұрын
Sorry to all the doomfist players but a wet paper bag did more damage to me
@joehudson7007
@joehudson7007 Жыл бұрын
it feels like the hitbox of it is as precise as a widow bullet, so even when you're up close trying to punch you miss.
@CallumPage
@CallumPage Жыл бұрын
I would like them to have a doom fist rework and just completely remove the way he is right now. Make his fist the weapon and not a shield.
@godzillagamer7512
@godzillagamer7512 Жыл бұрын
Remove the squirt gun on his hand and we’re good
@VaudeVi11eVi11ain
@VaudeVi11eVi11ain Жыл бұрын
But after using the shield it becomes a stronger weapon
@godzillagamer7512
@godzillagamer7512 Жыл бұрын
@@VaudeVi11eVi11ain slightly.... it is good how it removes the cooldown though
@gspeedy619
@gspeedy619 10 ай бұрын
​@@godzillagamer7512not really... if it reset slam too then yeah it'd be great but it just resets punch an ability that has the lowest cooldown in his kit
@THETVGCHANNEL
@THETVGCHANNEL Жыл бұрын
It's like hitting someone with a pillow
@aretailcashier450
@aretailcashier450 Жыл бұрын
And then theres sigma holding the line for his team to regroup like the fundamental force of nature he is
@Wraithman168
@Wraithman168 Жыл бұрын
Having used to play doom fist in OW1 extensively, the switch from damage dealer to tank was a dumb one. I feel like that scene in the Godfather… “Look what they did to my boy… they massacred him”
@RaoulsDigitalAdventures
@RaoulsDigitalAdventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah we should give him tanks survivability and the power from old DPS days. We all love a tank that suddenly jumps in from Narnia deletes 2 people gains armor and backs away.
@HalfAryanHunterGatherer
@HalfAryanHunterGatherer 2 ай бұрын
Dont need to give him 1shot, just give him damage that makes sense.
@lj1653
@lj1653 Жыл бұрын
the enemy doomfist is either terrible and we steamroll the enemy team, or they were personally coached by zebra and I feel like there's nothing I can do
@EBG...
@EBG... Жыл бұрын
Doom main here, best way to counter doom is either ignore him completely, or focus him entirely. Doom is actually weak enough that you only really need 1 person to focus him with hitscan. Focus him if hes good, ignore if he's bad or learning the character. Im giving this info because i like the challenge. I used tell people to play sombra when i play doom just so i can learn how to counter her. Now i can counter her enough to predict her while invis. I still cant beat sombra onetricks tho, they're too annoying to even try.
@samwilliams6820
@samwilliams6820 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Orisa fucks us up, focused fire melts doom especially if they get overconfident with power block
@swiftlyfat5791
@swiftlyfat5791 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget his little piddly quick melee. I remember when he came out and me and my friend died laughing at the fact that this mega weapon in the Overwatch universe wielded by a guy who’s entire kit revolves around punching gets a quick melee that uses his tiny fist versus you know the doomfist
@mrspifff
@mrspifff Жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, you soon realize you get more finishing blows with the small melee than actually landing the punch
@wingedbluj1674
@wingedbluj1674 11 ай бұрын
What it lacks in damage, it makes up for in punishing grouped up enemies. This then forces them to split up... which Doomfist can then punish with his high mobility and primary fire.
@dumbly-stupid
@dumbly-stupid Жыл бұрын
"Full charge punch and 4 shot with great aim and my entire kit is all I need"
@davidj3841
@davidj3841 Жыл бұрын
And a truckload of copium it seems
@monkeyl-
@monkeyl- Жыл бұрын
All you needed is one punch back then
@sleepy-Arc
@sleepy-Arc Жыл бұрын
Copium
@9001Shadowwolf
@9001Shadowwolf Жыл бұрын
​@@davidj3841 he's referencing DFs "one punch is all I need" voiceline
@CCT07
@CCT07 Жыл бұрын
@@davidj3841 It’s a reference to his “one punch is all I need” voice line.
@AzzySmh
@AzzySmh Жыл бұрын
Went from onetapping squishies to 5tapping squishies, getting slept, anti’ed and discord’ed then dying (in which you did like 300 damage in that period of time)
@yourgodshaggy8151
@yourgodshaggy8151 Жыл бұрын
As a Doomfist Tank main, it is hell playing him and not quiting the character entierly
@steven-cf9se
@steven-cf9se Жыл бұрын
Then why do you not play a different hero?
@FossorialFungus
@FossorialFungus Жыл бұрын
​@@steven-cf9se cause nearly every other tank is boring as fuck and requires precisely 0 brainpower to play
@WeedNoTobbaco
@WeedNoTobbaco Жыл бұрын
​@@FossorialFungus huh? but doomfist is even more brain dead when you buff him (was so braindead op they had to nerf him just after 1 week)so you should be happy at the spot he is right now
@FossorialFungus
@FossorialFungus Жыл бұрын
​@@WeedNoTobbaco I guess you're the braindead one considering you can't just press one button to delete someone and have to actually think because otherwise you get slept or go through a suzu and die immediately. The only reason they nerfed him after a week is because idiots like you were extremely mad you didn't learn how to counterplay doomfist because he was shit beforehand. Now he's nerfed even worse than he was in season one because all the fun characters get shit on while the braindead low-effort characters get free passes all the time. That "buff" wasn't even that good at first and just made him overtuned while making his core gameplay worse.
@krit_j162
@krit_j162 Жыл бұрын
@@FossorialFungus rein, winston, dva, zarya all require more brain power than doom
@EliqzART
@EliqzART Жыл бұрын
Not only that but you also wiff like 80% of your punches because apparently the hitbox of the fist is the size of a bullet while McCrees grenade has a hitbox the size of Roadhog
@jttitan5915
@jttitan5915 2 ай бұрын
Gods seeing this video a year later after going on my doom arc really puts in perspective how much the numbers don't matter
@hotlinehornz
@hotlinehornz Ай бұрын
I KNOW I've been maining Doomfist for the last couple of weeks and he's a MENACE if you're good at him
@justified_wrath_21
@justified_wrath_21 Жыл бұрын
Well blizzard has decided to nerf genji and doomfist once more.
@Epicsavant2
@Epicsavant2 Жыл бұрын
My legit play style swapped from being awesome and having fun to just trying to boop enemies on maps you didn’t know could boop lmao
@lightbulbtheentertainer
@lightbulbtheentertainer Жыл бұрын
The struggles of a doom fist main
@johnnysatanseed4770
@johnnysatanseed4770 2 ай бұрын
It's almost like doomfist was designed to be a dps and they forced him to be a tank and have just been throwing shit at a wall and hoping it stuck.
@anormalguy8407
@anormalguy8407 Жыл бұрын
baby Diva, tiny hands and wrist pistol whipping with a pistol that looks like its made from plastic 30 DAMAGE Ripped Body Builder with the arms of the size of a human body and the worlds most powerfull CyberEnhanced Boxing Arm Glove Charged up for sereveral seconds 50 damage...
@godzillagamer7512
@godzillagamer7512 Жыл бұрын
A cyborg with the power of a literal dragon god in nearly every weapon 50 damage with a high speed dash *with* a magical wakasazhi
@xcrucialbladex3801
@xcrucialbladex3801 Жыл бұрын
A huge Australian woman with a knife 45 Damage
@godzillagamer7512
@godzillagamer7512 Жыл бұрын
@@xcrucialbladex3801 also ripped (and does that include bleed?)
@xcrucialbladex3801
@xcrucialbladex3801 Жыл бұрын
@@godzillagamer7512 I know (yes that's with the bleed but it's technically an ability so I thought it counted)
@godzillagamer7512
@godzillagamer7512 Жыл бұрын
@@xcrucialbladex3801 damn… wish genji had the same damage for melee
@extraterrestrial8888
@extraterrestrial8888 Жыл бұрын
I feel like making Doomfist a DPS and Mei a tank like the community was asking for when OW2 was first announced would be so much better. Mei has actual tank util. Add back her freeze, make it take a bit longer to get back, and boom. Good hero.
@mr.giggles9737
@mr.giggles9737 Жыл бұрын
WE NEED DOOMFIST BACK AS A DAMAGE HERO 😭
@xpitohui
@xpitohui Жыл бұрын
without as much cc and 1 less tank, he'd be very broken
@gspeedy619
@gspeedy619 10 ай бұрын
​@@xpitohuiOrsia has two cc abilities we can give Doomfist back his uppercut but have it to small damage
@Irongrim
@Irongrim Жыл бұрын
All my 1100+ hours of DPS Doomfist down the drain. Tankfist was a mistake. It's so bad.
@LiquidSoapDrinker
@LiquidSoapDrinker Жыл бұрын
Blizzard needs to just say "we messed up" and bring back DPS doom, remove the stun and make it more like a Lucio boop or whip shot so it's less broken
@z.b.oakley8467
@z.b.oakley8467 Ай бұрын
Big thing with the rocket punch is how good it is for crowd control. You can effectively knock back and stun an entire enemy team if they get close. The only problem is that especially when fighting other dive comps, you're never going to hit more than two unless you save your shortest cooldown.
@TypicalCynic_
@TypicalCynic_ Жыл бұрын
I remember the good old days when Doom Fist’s punch did 130 damage at full charge when hitting an enemy and 260 damage at full charge when hitting an enemy into a wall.
@doopy8281
@doopy8281 Жыл бұрын
the good days?????? the days where you can not hide can't run get one tapped and had a combo that did even more trust me you do not what someone like doom strong.
@TypicalCynic_
@TypicalCynic_ Жыл бұрын
@@doopy8281 I do actually, because I was a Doom Fist main.
@monkeyl-
@monkeyl- Жыл бұрын
​@@doopy8281 you mean back then when you would get hacked, hooked, slept, shield bashed, rammed and flash grenade stunned the moment they see your red outline? Doom literally has the same weaknesses as he did before, if you can counter current doom then you can counter the previous Especially since the previous had lower mobility
@lukasg4807
@lukasg4807 Жыл бұрын
​@Doopy old doom was one of the hardest charecters to play at a high level. He was only really OP if you're a bronze with the aim of a wet noodle
@SpiritedFalcon
@SpiritedFalcon Жыл бұрын
@@doopy8281 skill issue
@Yourfat247
@Yourfat247 3 ай бұрын
Fun fact: the name ‘doom fist’ came from the players punching through their desk after playing him for 5 seconds
@ScorgeTheDemon
@ScorgeTheDemon Жыл бұрын
I feel amazing when playing doomfist but it’s so hard to see the results
@dertywerty4329
@dertywerty4329 Жыл бұрын
100%
@dimitarapostolov9788
@dimitarapostolov9788 Жыл бұрын
I remember the PTR/Live release Doomfist, he was a literal MONSTER that more than lived up to the name... Nowadays...
@generalgrievous714
@generalgrievous714 Жыл бұрын
Blizzard will see this video and continue to nerf him for no reason
@OgunsFist
@OgunsFist Жыл бұрын
Doom main from bronze all the way to diamond 1 trick, there’s a few ways to buff him without breaking the game, first reduce punch cool down, with the 1 second stun gone this won’t affect cc time that much and allow doom to actually put more pressure on to a team, lower the dmg needed for enhanced punch, and maybe widen the center of his ult a tiny bit, everything else is fine
@whyuheremf
@whyuheremf Жыл бұрын
As a doom otp I can confidently say the following: Skill issue
@dertywerty4329
@dertywerty4329 Жыл бұрын
I mean you got a point😂
@soapybanana1
@soapybanana1 Күн бұрын
"That's Doomfist's gauntlet! oh man, they said he could do 70 damage fully charged" -Museum Kid
@Greaseman762
@Greaseman762 Жыл бұрын
Just by your voice I can tell you tried scamming 3 chipmunks out of a record deal
@alexc4731
@alexc4731 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@GrimmCROPES
@GrimmCROPES Ай бұрын
it doing 80 dmg doesn't make it worse move. it can literally stun a whole team if used correctly, being able to cancel ults.
@LumpyHippo
@LumpyHippo Жыл бұрын
Wall bounce should do like an extra 110 now Doomfist will be a displacement tank not because he can push you a few inches but because players will reconsider their position.
@TheAwesomeCouch
@TheAwesomeCouch Ай бұрын
"The gauntlet was used to level a skyscraper!" Therefore, the grenade and rockets both level almost 2 skyscrapers by themselves.
@thatonemovieucantremember
@thatonemovieucantremember Жыл бұрын
I consider myself a tank main, so when they made DF a tank, I said to myself "well I guess I have to learn how to play doom" and I always said that they should just make him an off tank........ Till this day, I still refuse to play DF.
@iiliiliiliil3444
@iiliiliiliil3444 Жыл бұрын
I was hyped that they were making doomfist into a tank at first, but all they did was boost his hp, nerf his entire kit, and give him a crappy block (that is basically the same as ramattra but with a cooldown). His rework honestly feels worse than any of the ideas made in the workshop by fans prior to overwatch 2. They should have just left him as a dps.
@m4dnezz402
@m4dnezz402 Жыл бұрын
-They should add his uppercut back as a 4th ability but make it so you can only use it while on the ground, kinda like wreckingballs pile driver 50dmg -give his old slam back as an option if you (hold) the slam button, the damage can go from 50 capping at 75 but sacrificing it for a much smaller slam area/smaller cone. (Adds small air effect like dps doom did) whereas the tankfist slam will add a (small slow duration) like beta ow2 doomfist - make his powerblock 90Mitdmg or leave it at 100Mitdmg -empowered+wall is 150dmg instead of 120 because you should be allowed to 1shot a tracer, change stun duration from 0.75 to 0.50 and remove normal punch stun like beta ow2 doom. -make his max overhealth stack to 700 instead of 650 to make frontlining actually valuable. -make reload time on primary 0.15 seconds longer /I say these changes because doomfist has too many counters, no survivability, no damage output whatsoever and it’s very difficult to confirm kills. Ontop of that, doomfist has no real benefits to targeting single individuals anymore whereas every other tank does. Doomfist just needs more mechanics and ways to confirm kills, he’s somehow a terrible tank and a terrible dps, he is nothing rn☹️
@AustinsEdits
@AustinsEdits Жыл бұрын
Legit dooms powered punch should deal like 200 damage. It’s lame that is only like 20 more damage.
@siranubismax
@siranubismax Жыл бұрын
Honestly with doomfist make it so charging his punch below a second does 40damage and low knockback, charging for 1-2.5 seconds it does 50-60 damage and medium knockback, charging for a full 3-4 seconds does 80 damage and full knockback. Wall splats add 20 damage across the board, and when empowered the others hit by it take half damage and half knockback. Also make his slam bounce people up 2 feet, They can slightly move and are slightly slowed.
@martynas1819
@martynas1819 Жыл бұрын
3-4 seconds of not moving is in no way worth 80 damage that would be like 400. And only 20 damage for walls? The wall knockbacks are SUPPOSED to be his most powerful ability
@siranubismax
@siranubismax Жыл бұрын
@@martynas1819 you’ve got a fair point. Maybe wall splat on primary target can do 50-75 damage, but on secondary targets from a charged punch it would do 35-45
@jackiejackyjaqy...7219
@jackiejackyjaqy...7219 Жыл бұрын
if he's gonna need to charge it up for 4 seconss it MUST do at least double the damage instead of 80 it should do 160 AT LEAST and empowered should do the 160+50% which is 240 not enough to one shot but worth the 4 second cooldown + 4 second charge which makes him bare vulnerable taking a risk of being vulnerable in front of the enemies for 4 entire seconds should come with at least 240 damage output considering there is a chance that it may also fail sometimes
@toddoverholt4556
@toddoverholt4556 Жыл бұрын
His damage used to be a lot higher but when they made him a tank they neutered his damage because people complained about him in OW1 being too strong because he punished people who let him get too close
@thezerowulf2046
@thezerowulf2046 Жыл бұрын
Doomfist just requires skill. A skilled doomfist is an absolute nightmare to go against
@mattpresley9809
@mattpresley9809 Жыл бұрын
that seamless rotation to the start of the video though was clean af
@deez6683
@deez6683 Жыл бұрын
This canonically means that d’va’s melee attack does the same damage as a giant metal fist flying twards you at over 100 mph
@granityseis104
@granityseis104 Жыл бұрын
it does not
@deez6683
@deez6683 Жыл бұрын
@@granityseis104 both do 50 damage....
@granityseis104
@granityseis104 Жыл бұрын
@@deez6683 no
@idkwhattotype511
@idkwhattotype511 10 ай бұрын
​@@granityseis104 he means the quick melee, dumbass
@technounionrepresentative4274
@technounionrepresentative4274 8 ай бұрын
It's even worse because everything cancells the charge and even if you hit a fully charged punch there are soo many get out of jail free cards in the game now that you can't follow up the punch with anything sometimes
@Hk-ox4bb
@Hk-ox4bb Жыл бұрын
It’s almost as if he was designed as a close-range dps instead of being a tank
@ismmo2465
@ismmo2465 Жыл бұрын
Playing OverWatch 2 is pretty underwhelming right now.
@alexeirasputin2016
@alexeirasputin2016 Жыл бұрын
I still think mei would have made more sense as a tank than doom 😓
@chillrendbeats
@chillrendbeats Жыл бұрын
But she smol
@thechocolatedonut7216
@thechocolatedonut7216 Жыл бұрын
@@chillrendbeatsshe’s already fat bro just make her wider
@LH0KY
@LH0KY Жыл бұрын
“He can level a sky scraper” they addressed this after he came out and gave him a carpenters level spray.
@Meeetyfeet
@Meeetyfeet Жыл бұрын
Now make his health 300 and you've got a character completely outclassed by bastion and wrecking ball
@firstnamelastname9237
@firstnamelastname9237 Жыл бұрын
At 300 the man is less tanky than reaper, mei, or briggite. You can literally play any role and be tankier than doomfist in open q, and on that same exact character, probably do more damage too (or else healing)
@m4dnezz402
@m4dnezz402 Жыл бұрын
-They should add his uppercut back as a 4th ability but make it so you can only use it while on the ground, kinda like wreckingballs pile driver 50dmg -give his old slam back as an option if you (hold) the slam button, the damage can go from 50 capping at 75 but sacrificing it for a much smaller slam area/smaller cone. (Adds small air effect like dps doom did) whereas the tankfist slam will add a (small slow duration) like beta ow2 doomfist - make his powerblock 90Mitdmg or leave it at 100Mitdmg -empowered+wall is 150dmg instead of 120 because you should be allowed to 1shot a tracer, change stun duration from 0.75 to 0.50 and remove normal punch stun like beta ow2 doom. -make his max overhealth stack to 700 instead of 650 to make frontlining actually valuable. -make reload time on primary 0.15 seconds longer /I say these changes because doomfist has too many counters, no survivability, no damage output whatsoever and it’s very difficult to confirm kills. Ontop of that, doomfist has no real benefits to targeting single individuals anymore whereas every other tank does. Doomfist just needs more mechanics and ways to confirm kills, he’s somehow a terrible tank and a terrible dps, he is nothing rn☹️
@justaliljello5198
@justaliljello5198 Жыл бұрын
@@m4dnezz402 I hope you understand what you just said is" make doom the best character in the game" he was literally a top 3 tank too patches ago when his punch cd was ONE SECOND less and you're asking for all this.
@monkeyl-
@monkeyl- Жыл бұрын
​@@justaliljello5198 what else do you expect people to say when you change a character to a different role AND THEN make him absolutely dogshit on that same role you changed him into
@renutus1580
@renutus1580 Жыл бұрын
​@@banuner_ you can't read? He said one second LESS idiot. As in 3 seconds, not 4
@Topper127
@Topper127 Жыл бұрын
i think they should buff doomfist’s damage from 50 to 120 and 150 when the enemy hits the wall, and 200 when he has a charged fist so he can be truly dangerous with a charged fist and not just deal an extra 5 damage
@Milk63727
@Milk63727 Жыл бұрын
Hell no that would be op as hell
@CharterForGaming
@CharterForGaming Жыл бұрын
One shotting squishies. What are you even thinking
@gavoon1231
@gavoon1231 Жыл бұрын
hell no
@Topper127
@Topper127 Жыл бұрын
his charge is pretty useless if not 200 then 100 base damage and 175 with charged fist would work in my opinion
@vectorshot3072
@vectorshot3072 Жыл бұрын
He's a tank not a dps Jesus mate
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 10 күн бұрын
The biggest crime that was ever committed by Blizzard was not giving Doomfist increased Melee damage as well as having his melee actually be punching with the fucking Doomfist
@gummygrenade
@gummygrenade Жыл бұрын
Make doomfist a DPS again
@StupidityInANutshell
@StupidityInANutshell Жыл бұрын
Nah. Give him back uppercut, and/or make the block reduce more damage.
@linkplays2952
@linkplays2952 Жыл бұрын
@@StupidityInANutshell it reduces like 50% juts give him 150 more hp lmfao
@kamikaze4172
@kamikaze4172 Жыл бұрын
I knew that damn thing felt weak. Even when going up against a Doomfist (I suck against most heroes, mind you), it feels less like a threat and more like a nuisance
@Zay-zi2te
@Zay-zi2te Жыл бұрын
They don’t need to switch him to dps that would just be dumb, GIVE HIME MORE DAMAGE ON THE PUNCH
@SalvionOW
@SalvionOW Жыл бұрын
I am a doom main and that would be a very bad idea he’s already in a ok spot rn. Coming from a masters 3 doom one trick
@Topper127
@Topper127 Жыл бұрын
@@SalvionOWon the lower ranks he is very trash so a buff is very needed now and maybe nerfing his movement or already powerful combos to match the stats of a good buffed doomfist
@SalvionOW
@SalvionOW Жыл бұрын
@@Topper127 They’ve nerfed his movement many times and he doesn’t have any powerful combos unless your talking about dps doom. But tank doom no
@Asynurr
@Asynurr Жыл бұрын
​@V01D Eh, top 500 doom otp, make him how he was in season 1 and let him keep the season 2 change where when he ults he get empowered and he would actually be a good pick.
@commandershephard5019
@commandershephard5019 Жыл бұрын
I main doom and the thing I want the most is cut down the cooldown times I always find myself in spots where I’m defenseless waiting for cool downs 😂
@FFullMetalPanic
@FFullMetalPanic Жыл бұрын
I have tried accepting doom in the tank roll, but now he has to rely on boops instead of wallbangs, I miss the OG “one punch is all I need” Now it’s “Three punches I might need”
@caliber5302
@caliber5302 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like we need to nerf genji
@murpl1462
@murpl1462 Жыл бұрын
When doom was a dps this was doing like 300 damage with a wall collision but apparently people don’t want to play against someone who has multiple one shots in 1 rotation, high mobility, and multiple CCs
@w_out7631
@w_out7631 Жыл бұрын
I miss bashing people into walls and hitting them for 250
@Tre_swift
@Tre_swift 25 күн бұрын
"Tell me you never played Overwatch 1, without telling me you played Overwatch 1"
@AnalistGuffy
@AnalistGuffy Жыл бұрын
i really want him as dps again. take away the old one shot against a wall, sure, but everything good and fun about him is gone. worst tank in the game with the worst ult in the game.
@cosmo-dragon3973
@cosmo-dragon3973 3 ай бұрын
The problem with Doomfist feeling unsatisfying is that the PUNCH should be the heavy hitter, but Blizzard decided that his little knuckle dusters need to do the big numbers and the punch just takes 4 full seconds to charge (or having to eat 100 damage to charge it manually)
@Ralxikas
@Ralxikas Ай бұрын
Still remember old Doomfist when his rocket punch could one shot any squishy
@Alexael9922
@Alexael9922 Жыл бұрын
Well it did used to one shot mf's against a surface in the good ol days
@SuperTeenSpaz
@SuperTeenSpaz 17 күн бұрын
I just wish sliders would get fixed. More than half my punches have people just sliding off walls
@rainbowdash4898
@rainbowdash4898 Жыл бұрын
Hey I just thought of something. If the punches are gonna feel less damage than they used to, then let him do more. I’m not saying put it on a shorter cooldown, but instead let it work on charges. Like Tracer’s blinks or Junkrat’s mines.
@fortheloveofgodlaugh2981
@fortheloveofgodlaugh2981 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like Doomfist was a character initially created to be a burst brawler assassin with very high damage
@digim3l
@digim3l Ай бұрын
You have to fully charge encharged punch into a wall LOL for you to get stunned rocked booped hindered slept etc, dying, and not getting to punch at all I love playing doomfist
@chikihando2483
@chikihando2483 Жыл бұрын
Remember the animation where Doomfist with less experience beat Winston + Tracer + Genji in a 1v3 ? The good ol days
@alienjay7703
@alienjay7703 Жыл бұрын
Some games have a huge disconnect between the lore and actual gameplay . Pharah shooting soldier or Mcree with a missile should make them explode in meaty chunks, but they can take a direct hit with one and still run around fine lol
@VantasticJackson
@VantasticJackson Ай бұрын
That explains why i don't really feel like i'm doing anything as Doomfist. Unless i'm either -finishing a weakened enemy -interrupting an interruptable ult likw Moria -punching someone off the map -being a bullet sponge Or something along the lines, i don't feel like i'm actually contributing
@thenumber24
@thenumber24 2 ай бұрын
Doomprimaryfire because his fist just gives the enemies fist bumps every 7 seconds and his primary fire deals more damage
@ryne1625
@ryne1625 Жыл бұрын
This isnt the root of the problem. You not only have to land this weak hit, but also land 4 perfectly aimed, spread-based left click shots, then maybe add a melee into the mix, all the while the target receives no healing (which is highly improbable). I have many times gotten an enemy down to 10-20 hp, only for them to be outhealed way out of my damage potential (as doomfist's left click reload is extremely slow, and his punch has a 4 second cooldown). Thus, I am left with no option but to retreat without a kill due to this razor thin margin of error
@luckydragon588
@luckydragon588 Ай бұрын
It also takes a toll on Doomfist's body when he uses it at full power like One For All from MHA. So he doesn't always use full power. Also it gives him shields and can launch him in the air
@Mat69420k
@Mat69420k Жыл бұрын
Me: Man I miss DPS Doom 😢 **Support mains explaining how the world is a better place now that he's gone, and how we would achieve world peace if Blizzard just deleted every fucking character in the game and just left the specific supports that they main as playable characters**
@how_bout_no6899
@how_bout_no6899 Ай бұрын
“TORB WAS ABLE TO BUILD THIS IN A CAVE, WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!” Thats what I heard when he talked about bastion lmao
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