Why PTSD From Narcissistic Abuse is Harder To Heal |Narcissistic Victim Syndrome

[@peterknyk1942]

Hi Michele! I was damaged and ultimately diagnosed with PTSD as a result of multiple traumas from my time in the military, including sexual trauma and abuse. I've learned through thousands of hours of therapy and group work at my VA hospital to manage most of the symptoms of that PTSD. Unfortunately, I ended up in a marriage with a nasty narcissist who was far more abusive to me than any other human I have ever met on this earth and I now experience perpetual daily complex PTSD symptoms. In my humble and personal opinion, narcissistic abuse is the worst kind of abuse that one can experience. Narcissistic abuse so insidious...it is ongoing, not a singular incident....😈 it gets to our souls.....Your explanation of this, Michele, is so accurate and I thank you....🙏

[@Pfsif]

Dam!

[@allywolf9182]

Big Hugs ❤

[@amandatarkington6877]

@@allywolf9182 More hugs from me. :)

[@SharlenesJourney]

omg :( you dont deserve this at all I pray for your healing and escape please et out I hope all is well how are you now?

[@peterknyk1942]

@@SharlenesJourney Thank you so much for your incredibly kind words! Yes, it's better and I am doing better! Thank you! I hope you are doing OK as well! 💞

[@lindsayriggsbrown979]

Everything you say is so true. Additionally the lack of validation that those who have endured narcissistic abuse trauma receive adds another whole layer of trauma.

[@SharlenesJourney]

so true its hard to talk to people about it or seek help because many people dont get it

[@SenSakura-dj6bq]

It is very difficult. People just don't get it. They think you are playing the victim, when you are the first one being exhausted and trying to be normal again.

[@carolynbennett2735]

@@SharlenesJourneyExactly! Trying to explain this to someone and they stare back at you like you have lost YOUR mind!

[@SharlenesJourney]

@@carolynbennett2735 right cause most now a days are narcs themselves unfortunately or they just haven’t experienced it before

[@AFFTFOMSICHTS]

As someone who has experienced both, nothing compares to narcissistic abuse and you truly don’t get it unless you’ve experienced yourself.

[@anyvalenciia]

I am just crying right now, I am so done with this ptsd, I just want to be myself again :( before this horrendous relationship

[@Peacesmile-t7e]

Same.

[@7h268]

Same ❤

[@MOBLEY383]

I can most definitely relate to what you said about being gaslighted for nearly five decades by my mother, exes, relatives on mother's side, and by my oldest daughter

[@puppetproblems2935]

I love your channel and thank you! I was married 23 years and this is what I was lead to believe. I had a very good therapist and have been divorced 9 years and was thriving until this past year. What I didn't know was that my ex abuser husband had been slowly alienating my children. They're 27, 21, 17 now and (this sounds crazy, but we all know how these things are real) he has turned up the dial to make them cut me out. It didnt happen earlier because he did NOT want to have to be a full time parent. I'm back in constant cptsd form and physically shivering 80% of the day. I'm so sad for anyone experiencing this.

[@allywolf9182]

Big Hugs!!! Mine aren't supportive of me either.

[@lonebejder1144]

Big hugs from me too. One of my two children at 21 has cut off contact with me. It is frustrating! It might be because of anger against me or alienation from his father against me or cptsd aka rumination, depression, isolation after a childhood with a narc father. I dont know. I continue Thriving though. I have to. This marriage has been the deepest learning lesson in my life. I am so sad for other people to experience narcissistic relationship.

[@olive0eyes0]

in my exp the physical shivering only fades when one is completely cut off and in a far away environment, so far far away

[@puppetproblems2935]

I was managing to keep my mental health in check pretty well and able to put out the small fires he was setting, but it all came to a head when my youngest was experiencing many other stressers from the pandemic, it was too much and he has been in the hospital 4+ times since March for things no parent wants to experience. The narcissist doesn't understand emotions. He does get pretty happy about getting to control our son with meds, now. How can we help others/mental health professionals understand this abuse narcissists employ?

[@allywolf9182]

@@puppetproblems2935 I would simply explain your ex has mental health issues. That he suffers from a Cluster B disorder. Which is on the same spectrum as a sociopath. And just like sociopaths, they appear to be fairly normal or maybe even extra perfect until that part of them that is dysfunctional is exposed.

[@izawaniek2568]

Every sentence is invaluably helpful. Thank you.

[@garycordle5295]

Thank you Michele for talking about healing ourselves with trauma, your different than the other channels, that's a good thing 👍🙏

[@TheDjangoJoEShowOfficial]

I work with Veterans. They are major targets for narc abuse. The ones who go to war or deploy deal with cheating spouses that make being overseas that much harder. Great vid. New sub,...

[@HaleyMary]

I can relate to what you said about how narcissistic abuse affects our relationship with others because after narcissistic abuse I find it hard to trust my judgment of who is safe to be with, so how can I go about trusting another human being? Yes I could also relate to think that there was something wrong with me rather than with the narcissistic abusive person. I was thinking maybe I was saying the wrong thing or didn't understand some situation. It took me years to trust myself and to learn that not everyone has my best interests at heart.

[@unicornladytech]

I appreciate your explanation of this video so much. It's hard to find anyone who knows what they are talking about when it comes to this subject. I wish I knew this word Narcissistic for the past 42 years. I was thinking maybe he was bi-polar or something like that. But I am divorced and alone now at 62. And yes I still have PTSD symptoms. 😪

[@ginacheselka6086]

that is awful i am soooo sorry ❤️

[@hv935]

Hard to find a therapist who takes everything serious....

[@the80sfanatic13]

And takes your money. Lol.

[@TyShyBrickWorld]

I’m listening 👂 all ears yes I feel a mess my mind everything a mess ! My nervous system is out of control ! I will be there 2022 ! I’m struggling big time. No contact from my parents.

[@puppetproblems2935]

❤😔

[@kjyoshino773]

Yes, that is exactly me!

[@uponcripplecreek1]

Excellent video, thank you for making this important distinction.

[@teresak6463]

💯 I was with my Narc 24 years and he knew I had PTSD from abuse starting in childhood. I was then diagnosed while still with him C-PTSD. He was a covert narc with J-spirit ( his own counselor told me he was the biggest Covert Narc that she’s ever dealt with.

[@puppetproblems2935]

💔

[@teresak6463]

@@puppetproblems2935 I’m focusing on me but I’ve noticed that the holidays are rough and bring up feelings especially abandonment ones. Sending love to all of us because we deserve it! 🥰

[@ChuangSarah]

Thank you, Michelle. This is so insightful.

[@marietteestabrook4098]

I realized as a teen that my mom was damaged and was abusive. I didn’t realize until many years later the damage it had on me or what exactly the kind of abuse was being done. At 73 I’m still struggling with the remnant of complex PTSD.

[@tammiewilliams6802]

Yes I started doubting myself 😳

[@truthsupporter4119]

Our prime minister here in NZ is causing allot of people to develop PTSD.

[@c.mareeharris4615]

Thank You! MLN

[@lucinancy]

I just had an experience like that and it was with my last psychiatrist, I remember when deciding to look for another professional that it felt like deciding to wake up from a nightmare

[@JohnnyCarthief]

The person that’s supposed to care the most for me cares the least about me.

[@Betterlattethannever307]

I 100% relate.

[@gustavoeberle3895]

Most horrible trauma any person can experience. I have survived being stabbed in my back by my ex wife without even noticing it

[@StellaM22]

Ill never date again . Ever.

[@rosykatzCATS]

Wrong! I have that PTSD & I never hated myself & I have high self esteem. But I have panic attacks &y life has been sabotaged by my mother with all of my family & friends which blacklists me continuely.

[@age93]

You sure? I mean if your sense of self was that solid, why did you have the urge to defend it on a video that wasn’t personally directed to you. Right 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@gregcongleton8078]

I’ve been watching you for a while. I just got a divorce after 28 years with a narcissistic spouse. You’ve been very helpful the past two years. This video on PTSD it explains my feelings lately Thanks!

[@TaraBodhi1]

Has anyone else developed seizures and tics abs catatonic episodes after NA? I'm so confused when I get 'triggeted' I get these seizures type episodes

[@1980gcapelo]

I hope I never get that messed up. And believe me I'm super messed up

[@SenSakura-dj6bq]

I often have trembling hands with certain flashbacks. It only happens when the flashback is very vivid.

[@age93]

I’ve had convulsive syncope episodes. They reassemble seizures.

[@jameschambers3171]

Yea I would rather not have an arm wrestling contest about who's more broken, brainwashed used and abused who wants to talk about it let alone tell war stores

[@mkbeauty1012]

Hi Michelle , you mentioned that people who experience narcissist abuse usually feel like others trauma or abuse is worse then theirs can you elaborate on that please?

[@dotgenie]

I can relate

[@traweler155]

I could not get into relationship with woman after my mother narcissistic alcoholism. Too much for me, Overwhelmed and large distrust! Big detest to the needs requests, demands women presented. I felt as if I had to get something in return for these severe child years. Not eager to be a supplier what was expected. Anxiety of being used.

[@alexadellastella5247]

among professionals like psychologists and psychiatrists, narcissistic abuse is largely unknown or minimised or denied! This is very problematic when they are the only ones validated by the welfare system!!!!! I believe this is not taught by the system on purpose since the system is narcissistic by essence and most people once they have a diploma do not question any further but only believe what they have been taught as truth.... this is very problematic that most people in the psychological field do not question what they are taught and know nothing about trauma.... same for doctors and psychiatrists

[@karenholtzclaw3135]

👍

[@debdoty3417]

Yes, I did think it was me for quite while.. I have been in my relationship 40 years..my 2nd relationship ever as well as his..drugs(first 3 years)then alcohol played a very big part of the first 16 years..I tried to end the relationship many, many times. Was tired of being alone with our kids..kids grew up..I'm still with him. He has had many traumatic brain injuries before an after we met. Can this cause narcissism & can anything be done to open his eyes to it.

[@perfectlyspecialgifts]

💗

[@peterknyk1942]

First! 💞

[@chocolatecookie8571]

Instantly I got cured of my PTSD narcissistic abuse the moment I saw your face and heard you speak. No, just kidding. But you ARE extremely attractive to be honest 👌🏻