Why Qatar's World Cup May Be The Last of Its Kind

[@business]

Which sporting mega-event do you enjoy watching more: The World Cup ⚽ or The Olympics🤾?

[@BernhardWelzel]

The level of corruption in FIFA is unrivalled in any other organization at this point in time. So watching the World Cup allows you to explore how morally corrupt you are, understanding that no level of crime and human suffering will ever keep you from getting your entertainment. For the current world cup, about 400 and 500 slaves died- but this is a small price compared to the moral bankruptcy we all suffered by supporting these regimes... so why not pick north korea next? Pretty sure FIFA is open to that suggestion.

[@vicmorrison8128]

@@BernhardWelzel don't know squat about soccer, to busy living life. As far as all the "games" are concerned, I'd like them to be in one place, politics played down and not in these countries that are still stuck in the 10th century. Qatar will just raise oil prices to cover it all and will still profit handsomely. All at our expense in the end. Rename it "The Apolitical Games" , just to continually drive the point home.

[@hansolowe19]

Tell the guy at 11:50 that I am not against the games, I am against the ioc. ☝️ To the same guy later: climate positive, does that mean a net negative emission? Does that include the plane flights from all over the world, across the country, the buildings, hotels, houses that would be necessary?

[@John-tx5or]

Get off Work? Up @ 3am? 1 Time like MECCA? Eh, Not Really @ All. PAY to PLAY?... Not the Best Way to Back it UP!

[@121476]

Olympics

[@iAmAlby]

"Mega means big" Someone get this man a raise

[@dandylion7028]

10/10 definitely give him a mega raise because it means big got to be an Olympic sized cash flow because large.

[@alexm566]

woah, mega brain thinking there

[@enkryptron]

Good to know. Always wonder what mega means.

[@Someone-cd7yi]

no

[@Pwnulolumad]

😂 he’s got a ‘British’ accent too so you know he’s mega-credible. 🥁 👏

[@bertveilleux1701]

Make olympics a host country like the World Cup. Then a city doesn’t take the whole burden.

[@commentor3485]

Wise plan!

[@RaymondHng]

@@commentor3485 IOC has already reformed the bidding process to multiple cities.

[@LordDavid04]

Already going to happen for Brisbane 2032. Brisbane is the main host, alongside Gold Coast in the South, host of the 2018 Commonwealth Games and Sunshine Coast in the North.

[@realalbertan]

@@LordDavid04 same goes for 2026 Comm Games in Victoria.

[@LordDavid04]

@@gabetalks9275 Well isn't that what I mentioned? As for the 2026 Commonwealth Game Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo only. No Gippsland region. I think those cities in the West could easily host the event alone, with Geelong even going as far as hosting athletics. The field at Kardinia Park is technically large enough to fit a standard athletics track.

[@markknight3983]

I think London in 2012 has re used most of the stadiums - the main stadium is now used as a football stadium and has regenerated the Lea Valley.

[@krispykarim8504]

This is correct. Most of London's venues and even the athletes village has been repurposed as it was set to happen in an area that was already targeted or regeneration which is how London won the bid. The athletics stadium is now the home stadium of West Ham United Football Club but also hosts concerts (e.g. AC DC, Beyonce, The Rolling Stones) and athletics events (and occasionally other events like monster trucks). The Copper box hosts regular basketball events along with occasional events of a ifferent nature like cheerleading competition and hackathons. Aquatics centre is open for the public to use (you have to pay) and hosts swimming and diving lessons and competitions, and the hockey and tenis centre and velodrome are also open to those who want to use it too as well as the whole park. I would recommend a visit if you eve come to London.

[@PrograError]

@@krispykarim8504 i think that's one of the more successful pivot, but for that one success there's many ruins of event locations in decay.

[@krispykarim8504]

@@PrograError The problem is the lack of political will and external support IMO. It can work in the right setting and any setting can be the right one if there is widespread interest in bettering the places where large sporting events happen are reflected in relevant institutions and governing bodies.

[@TheOwl22]

yep and it's also been used for an exhibition baseball game organized by the MLB.

[@Acontinouslean]

Really glad they did a deep dive on what mega means . I’ve never understood that word, and wouldn’t have understood this video without that .

[@defeatSpace]

you mean a mega dive

[@shanicestella2226]

I'm Indonesian , And during the G20 that hosted in October , Indonesian Goverment ever bragged a non-sensical irrational decision to hosting the Olympics in the new capital at East Kalimantan at 2036, which ironically that new capital not yet realized , Even i opposing this idea , If the Olympics were really hosted in the new capital at east Kalimantan , I simply won't surprised but at the same time saddened to see the nature of Kalimantan get a massive deforestation for the sake of building a new stadium I find that decision is much more political ambition-centric I would prefer that infrastructure of my country properly used for the sake of peoples welfare , rather than recklessly for the sake of symbolic project to fullfill political ambition

[@موسى_7]

Building railways is much better than a stadium.

[@guyfaux3978]

"First Winter World Cup"? This will come as a surprise to Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil and South Africa, all of whom have hosted World Cups in the Southern Hemisphere winter.

[@sdot5389]

You forgot Chile, which hosted the World Cup in 1962.

[@ianmoone8244]

They think that just Northern Hemisphere exists...

[@Lgx-ie4if]

@@ianmoone8244 northern hemisphere is far more important in the world

[@guyfaux3978]

@@sdot5389 Forgive me! ;-)

[@guyfaux3978]

@@ianmoone8244 Whereas in Rugby, it's the South (NZL, RSA) that can't be ignored, while many of the Northern countries can be.

[@findingmo7049]

The idea of a permanent host would be unpopular and considered as a monopoly. The sports is shared by the world, so hosting it should also be shared in my opinion. Specially for soccer, when the rules include a host nation automatically qualifies for the games, and the rest of the world has to compete to qualify. Either way, the cost is getting out of control and fewer nations would be interested as a host anyways. I just returned from Qatar, despite all their human right problems, it was an incredible experience. But not every host will be like Qatar.

[@realenew]

yeah if there's no one bidding, just use the already built stadiums

[@Sabundy]

And which country that will be hosting the World Cup or Olympics doesn't have human rights issues? Please name them....

[@genning7246]

country has issues but some are certainly worse than others.

[@ChinchillaBONK]

i agree. shocked that that person even suggested it. i lost all respect and regard for whatever that man said prior to his assertion of a permanent city. i feel like that is the most undemocratic and bigotric thing a person can ever say.

[@rberks5]

The 2028 summer Olympics are going to be held in Los Angeles. They are going to use existing infrastructure. Other cities can do the same and/or include a neighboring city's infrastructure to help.

[@atbattson]

Living in Boston and being around when this discussion was taking place, yeah this guy is right. It is sad that "our" first thought was that it might improve the transit we already have and there was no other real way to get that. After this was rejected the governor said they would invest in the system anyway as this rebuke pointed out but then in 2022 the system was worse than ever and catching fire etc so it never really happened. So sad that this is one of the few ways to push for meaningful investment and improvement.

[@WDI2008]

Well take a look at The Big Dig in Boston!

[@ponypower8]

I think the most practical and reasonable solution is *regional co-hosting.* I mean a specific "region" within a continent co-hosting the Olympics. *For example, the "Nordic Olympics" can be co-hosted by Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden.* Something like that.

[@MakerInMotion]

I like it. Combined, they should have all the arenas they need already. The only issue would be with the events spread out like that, spectators have to pick like one event they really want to see because they can't bounce around 5 countries. Less people would come if they have to be real choosy about what to attend.

[@zaphster11]

Logistics...

[@ponypower8]

@@zaphster11 Pretty sure they'll find a way. In this modern, hi-tech global community we live in right now, logistics is no longer a problem.

[@RaymondHng]

Reykjavik, Iceland is 840 miles away from the western coast of Norway.

[@adityaharryson]

just like korea-japan world cup 2002

[@Don-vx6rz]

If Olympics need a permanent host city, give it to Athens- the original host

[@ecoideazventures6417]

Can you tell me what they are doing with the infrastructure they built in 2004?

[@chinavirus841]

@@ecoideazventures6417 Greece is rightfull owner to Olympics

[@williamerazo3921]

Or rotate it to cities that already have the infrastructure

[@jon_j__]

Nah, make a purpose-built complex at Mt Olympus. All the special sports facilities would just get in the way in Athens, and the idea of sending world-class athletes to a mythical thunderdome to train and compete is just awesome.

[@bigk8210]

@@ecoideazventures6417 If they got the games permanently they would have good reason to maintain them for use.

[@steventan2550]

Countries hosting mega sports events should not hope to reap anything tangible other than promoting the countries' image. Those who do not have the financial capabilities should fight shy.

[@auxtin15]

For most cultures, including the Arab culture, it is not about the economics. It is about how well you are able to host and entertain your guests. When a special local guest is coming, You get your house in order, clean,buy special drinks, cook special food & even change furnitures. Imagine when you have to host the world. You will go far and beyond.

[@11_jesusisking]

😂

[@RedLorryYellowLorry_]

All at the cost of slave labour and lives

[@markdanielalea5731]

Not for migrant worker guests apparently

[@emmakai2243]

Mega events are definitely not about cultural hospitality. Countries aren't fixing up what they have. It's all about world prestige and international soft power. If your home hospitality includes live music, building out a new kitchen and bedrooms for your visitors, then that'd be comparable to what countries are doing for these events.

[@jamese5936]

Are you seriously making geo-economics into a house party? lol..buddy the amount of money they are talking about is so large it will leave an economic impact for the next 2 centuries....and you are making it out to be a picnic, I honestly laughed while reading your naive comment

[@miaa7097]

I had time of my life in Doha Glad I attended the world cup

[@ConradSpoke]

Perfect. The fascists who govern Doha and Qatar need a steady supply of morally blind people like you.

[@rkadiaries]

I’m so happy you enjoyed it! As someone’s who’s been in Qatar my whole life this makes me proud to see :)

[@Afritunez]

Did u see the indians slaving away?

[@calebmurphy7343]

I think this whole video ignores the main issue. Everyone, including former FIFA leaders, knew that Qatar wasn’t a good venue and wasn’t really practical. But corruption and oil money dominated the decision, so practicality goes out the window. And I expect that will continue for FIFA since they are comically corrupt. And I think the Olympic committee is going in that direction too, but hopefully they can course correct. I’d like to think it is the last, but I don’t have enough faith in our institutions to really believe it.

[@pmuller42]

Surprisingly they did not even mention the Asian Winter Games 2029 that will happen in Saudi Arabia

[@NETTAHER28]

How?

[@japzone]

@@NETTAHER28 Well, Saudi Arabia is in the middle of building the world's largest indoor ski slope.... Still as dumb as Qatar hosting the world cup though. 😅

[@sdot5389]

…in a city that doesn’t even exist yet.

[@RaymondHng]

@@NETTAHER28 On 3 March 2022, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman launched the Trojena project, which will be the first major outdoor skiing destination in the Arabian Peninsula. It will be located in Saudi Arabia's highest mountain range, about 50 kilometres (31 mi) from the Gulf of Aqaba coast, with elevations ranging from 1,500-2,600 metres (4,900-8,500 ft). The site is considerably cooler than the rest of Neom's territory.

[@alexlong3714]

@@japzone Those countries have the "Money" to do it in a truly "MEGA" way. just like the Football World Cup recently, in QATAR = the GREATEST ever, we have seen. No ??

[@nzs316]

Meanwhile our Olympic stadium here at home ended up empty after many attempts to monetize it but none wanted to go there. Too big for a concert and professional sports. It just dwarfed anyone trying to put on an appearance. Next time, just buy a really large bouncy castle style stadium, fold it up after all is said and done.

[@justsamoo3480]

where do you live Montreal?

[@Walk_on_Part_In_a_War]

Dude you left us hanging by not saying where you're from.

[@nzs316]

@@Walk_on_Part_In_a_War That was intentional.

[@Walk_on_Part_In_a_War]

@@nzs316 Nice! I know that Sydney reduced the size of its Olympic stadium after the games, and it's been used a lot for sports events, etc.

[@nzs316]

@@Walk_on_Part_In_a_War Montreal sits there empty. The option to downsize is impossible. It’s just too big and we just don’t have the sports fan base to fill it.

[@Hamsteak]

I do like or watch sports, but I really enjoy the business aspects and geopolitics of hosting and building for massive sports games like World Cups and The Olympics

[@alexskatit4188]

Don't compare the Olympics with the Football World Cup. People and nations are actually interested and watch the World Cup.

[@alexskatit4188]

@@johnsmeith3913 Rad my post again. I did not mention FiFA. I am talking about the Olympics vs the World Cup.

[@SachiraBhanu]

Every country want to show their powers in Olympic. It's the best among best.

[@RaymondHng]

22:42 Milan and Cortina d"Ampezzo are hosting the *2026* Winter Olympic Games, not the 2030 Winter Olympic Games.

[@Kristoph-69-69]

Even smaller events can be bad for smaller countries. After the cricket world cup in 2007 Jamaica was left with a mid sized cricket stadium in a rural part of the country that is barely used it cost way more to maintain it than the revenue it generates. Trinidad after hosting the fifa under 17 world cup were left with football stadia that generate little to no revenue.

[@nadvga6650]

in recent times many things were done with very little sensibilities but on pure conjectures. now we have hit a hard wall

[@jarjarbinks6018]

The IOC is infamous for syphoning most of the revenue from Olympics events while also demanding lavish accommodations. The only city I can think of in recent memory that didn’t end up in debt after the Olympics was Los Angeles, but that was because the Americans don’t spend on ridiculous spectacles. They don’t feel like there is anybody they need to impress

[@metavatar]

You're not wrong but Americans do the same except for American football or college American football. Stadiums are built bigger and more expensive and cities and taxpayers are left holding the bill for the billionaire franchise owners.

[@joeybulford5266]

Maybe just have a couple locations around the world the Olympics is hosted in? Then at leas the facilities are guaranteed to be reused and there’s less waste.

[@LordDavid04]

Oslo, Norway didn't want the 2022 Winter Olympics, even though the Norwegians excel at the event and there's memories of Lillehammer 1994. Had they used more legacy venues from Lillehammer to save on costs, then it might have gone on to the final vote instead of bailing out.

[@JessT2K7]

Everything about the LA games sounds like it will be a resounding success, but is the transport within the city adequate enough? I've only visited once on vacation, but I felt I couldn't go anywhere unless I had a car, and even then, we were stuck in traffic most of the time.

[@warrengans1346]

It's not the first winter world cup: 2010 was in winter for the host country, South Africa

[@alandemaio3043]

Winter in Brazil as well

[@sdot5389]

2010 was the fifth winter World Cup. Uruguay, Brazil, Chile, and Argentina all hosted in June/July months prior to that.

[@mffmoniz2948]

At this point, there are already a few countries who built the needed infrastructure for mega events like the Olimpics and similar. No need for more countries to enter into such a cost. Just switch around the countries that can host the events without needing to build new stuff from scratch.

[@t0n0k0]

I have seen worker deaths from 2010 to 2022 range about 6,500 deaths by tracing death certificates issued by Qatar to migrate countries of origin. That's just damn sad.

[@Pfyzer]

Its a worldwide problem. I mean, Do yourself a favor and find an estimate about migrant workers in North American and South American countries. It's not just sad, it's depressing and eye opening to know that Qatar is in the low end

[@jeremias-serus]

@@Pfyzer It's absolutely not a worldwide problem. There is a unique issue in Arabia, specifically Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain, and Kuwait of destitute Africans and South Asians being brought to work and then forced to stay with unreliable pay and immoral working conditions. It's truly the closest a nation can get to slavery without having it called slavery. This is not done in any South American country. I don't know how you can even imagine such a thing happening in the USA or Canada.

[@Imm23743]

@@jeremias-serus I don’t mean to discredit construction workplace safety and workers right. But at the same time, I do find these headlines questionable. I mean migrant workers make up a significant portion of the Qatari population. So naturally, over a span of 10 years, a lot may die of old age whether they’re working on the stadium or a white collar job. There may be some covid deaths as well. But overall the 400 or so people who died due to building stadiums, hotel, metro etc is still unjustified

[@jeremias-serus]

@@Imm23743 The thing about the population of migrants, is that they're not really part of the population. They're only temporarily there. This isn't just the case in Qatar, it's the near exact same in the other Arabic countries I named. Even if a grand total of zero humans have died working in said Arabic countries since 1957, it's still besides the point that the whole tactic that these Arabic countries use is literally forcing these migrant workers to stay. Normally the UN declares that type of thing a violation of human rights, if, say, a European nation does it. They literally bare them from owning their visas, so that they have no choice but work on, again, non-regular payments. Back to deaths though, the real issue with that is that it's all unreported and happening in autotheocratic nations that only have interest in lying and have been proven to do it before. Literally no one knows how many have died. The whole thing is so hilariously unacceptable, yet we don't bat an eye because half of our oil comes from one of these Arabic nations. And an important thing to note, Qatar is one of the better ones. The UAE is infamous for being the worst, with Saudi Arabia not being far behind. All of the cities in Arabia are built with the blood of new age slavery, that's the bottom line.

[@alexm566]

ninety (90%) percent of Qatar population is migrant workers. I am not saying you're wrong, but people die from many things, not just work accidents.

[@Guy_de_Loimbard]

So the IOC takes in most of the money and imposes most the costs on the host city. That formula needs to change.

[@sdtok527]

"Why Qatar's World Cup May Be The Last of Its Kind" - Interviews IOC people (Not FIFA) - 2/3 is about olympics held in other nations (Qatar / Football only starts at 15:56) - Does not mention how the reforms are only paper reality - Does not mention how workers were/are misled: they are promised more salary than they will earn and have to go into debt to reach Qatar. Upon arrival, their passports are taken away until they repay their debts based on a lower salary amount. - Does not mention that estimated of deaths go as high as 6500 - Does not mention corruptness within FIFA, and the Qatar bid - Does not mention how the FIFA president handles the allegations - Does not mention the ban on political statements at the world cup unless its organized by the host nation Qatar They probably wanted to interview FIFA. But FIFA being as corrupt as they are, they probably denied, could have mentioned the reason. Its weird that the interviewees are form an entire different event.

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

Even if they got FIFA or Qatar to comment, it probably would have been a bunch of phony PR-speak anyway. everyone knows that they've been trying to hide this mess for the past decade. I think the point the video is making is that IOC and FIFA both fell into the same pattern of picking authoritarian states to host their events, because of their corruption and because the costs of hosting became so high for anyone else to bother. i agree it should have been stated more clearly though.

[@skp8748]

6500 number is ridiculous and egregious example of misinformation. It's was a number of estimated deaths over a 12 year period of ALL migrant deaths in sectors from Oil and gas extraction, construction, hospitality... The Guardian who came up with the estimate included natural deaths and even inflated the number to account for undocumented migrants. If you know anything about the Gulf especially Qatar you'd know they're police states. You can't open banking, get accomodation, convert money, send remittance or even get a SIM card without providing identification and often biometrics. Undocumented workers in Qatar is nonsensical. UAE has been proven to have sponsored misinformation campaign against Qatar regarding the WC. From sponsoring KZbin channels, sponsoring 'sources' used reputable news providers such as the BBC, Twitter profiles that churn and amplify disinformation to even funding Human rights activists to disparage/malign Qatar. As for the reforms being paper reality the FACT that the government has taken back the right to approve and set requirements for work visas is already a CRAZY undertaking and one that should be applauded. The Qatari population is only 300k, they only took control of the administrative responsibility for the nation from the British in the 70s (who brought the Kafalah system) and they obviously have a bureaucratic capacity disparity. They neither had the history, institutions or workforce to manage or regulate vast portions of their public services and so they outsourced to the private sector to fill these gaps which included the logistics of bringing in the workforce necessary to build and maintain the growth of Qatar's economy. French and belgian companies won the right to build transport system required for World cup. They used a company that was operating in the region that sourced migrant workers. They chose this company because it has documented history of delivering and because it was cheap... As long as they don't break Qatar's non existent/weak regulations capitalism dictates their condition doesn't matter. So those French and belgian companies didn't consider their western values and human rights because capitalism doesn't care. When they bidded for the contract from the Qataris they could have stipulated what they want to pay workers, set housing standards the housing standards they expect for their workers... Qatar would have to choose yes or no. But they were never put in that position because the European companies designing, consulting and administrating these projects only care about money... So where is their backlash? If western nations held the companies from their shores to the same standard they want to hold other nations they'd cripple their own economies. It's all well and good saying Australia, UK and US stand for fair employment and safe working conditions as evidenced by strong regulation in their own nation but when it comes to what impact and the exploitation of Glencore, BHP Billiton, Cargill to name but tiny few it's all crickets...

[@deforged]

you should try watching the video instead of whacking away at your keyboard. most of the items you listed were covered.

[@sdtok527]

@@Pifla I did watch it all, but to me the WC in Qatar is not best characterized by the amount of money that went into it, but by the corruption and slavery. So if you say "last of its kind" to me you should put this event into a category with corruption and unnecessary deaths.

[@rhetoric5173]

Doesn’t mention scuttling refugee boats off the coast either

[@1locust1]

The Olympics has turned into an unwieldy monster. Let them find a permanent home. Congratulations to Boston and the other cities that rejected the IOC in past years. Honestly, do we really need the Olympics when there are a plethora of international competitions for every kind of sport imaginable. What's needed is to improve transmission, broadcasting and streaming access since this is how the vast majority of people view these events anyway.

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

I'm not a sports fan, but I pay some attention to the Olympics. Especially for more niche sports, I imagine the Olympics provides orders of magnitude more visibility than all other international competitions

[@jeremias-serus]

A hypothetical Olympics permanent home needs to be Athens, Greece, of course.

[@sdot5389]

Vancouver just rejected an opportunity to host the Winter Olympics for a second time. No thanks, fool me twice….

[@TheOwl22]

The problem with these types of events is that they need to decrease the requirements for their facilities so host cities do not need to build new ones.

[@siddharthagrawal7568]

the city infrastructure development should be un-related to mega-events. mega events are run by corporations and cities are run by tax payers and should be managed seperately.

[@portcybertryx222]

Instead of 1host I tied select a couple cities like one or two from each of the 5 continents …develop the facilities and then rotate amongst those cities. It’s global, feasible and will give a chance for each continent to engage in sustainable development. I would go for (LA, NYC) for North America, London or Paris for Europe, South Africa or a union of African nations for the continent, Australia(Sydney or Melbourne summer)and new Zealand(Aukland winter) could jointly host, Tokyo or Beijing for Asia(maybe India might wanna join), Brazil for South America cause they already did it once plus they use the facilities. That would be amazing plus give options for joint hosting improving diplomatic relations.

[@jehiahmaduro6827]

Interesting Choice. GDP and sustainability are definite factors to consider. But unfortunately the Biggest issue and obstacle to this is GEO politics. I wonder if a pop-up city is possible for an event of this nature. Germany hosts one of the largest pop-up festival's in the world Oktoberfest. I wonder if this can't be replicated. We already know we can do a viable pop-up stadium. The Qatari's have proven it with the 974 Container Stadium.

[@ecoideazventures6417]

Great idea Sullivan, but who will bell the cat?

[@fjuvo]

@@jehiahmaduro6827 The stadium is just marketing. It would be cheaper (and more sustainable) to build a permanent stadium rather than disassemble it after just using it for a month

[@morceen]

@@fjuvo And do what with it after? They don't need all those stadiums.

[@portcybertryx222]

To be fair the 974 stadium is a bit of a joke. Cause the shipping containers are only on the outside the whole interior is till regular seats and roof. And yeah dismantling it is like dismantling any other stadium so technically nothing truly feasible. Slightly better but still expensive.

[@oness1334]

For game attendance, this is the best World Cup ever! Once you check into your hotel in Doha, all the stadiums are close by.

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

...and what the hell do they do with 8 brand new stadiums when the games are over and millions of visitors go home?

[@juanramos297]

@@VideoAmericanStyle rent of course ... dahhh

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

@@juanramos297 oh yes, of course, tons of people love to rent giant stadiums in conservative countries in the desert. How could I forget? 😂

[@juanramos297]

@@VideoAmericanStyleyeah, i mean not by europeans. Rent by the middle east people, you know there is arab cup and asia cup right?

[@sonybraviatv1986]

@@juanramos297 Asian here, there is no solid football fans here, maybe except Indonesia or China.Also I highly doubt the high attendance with those massive football arena given the high transportation, living, and ticket cost. For example Europe, it has high football attendance, cheap transportation cost considering the interconnection between country and cheaper living costs considering their spending power.

[@Guesswhokk]

It tempting to say 'Greece' to host all future Olympic events and revenue generated will be given back to global investors. More importantly Sport is Global, therefore every participating nations should bid & contribute different part of the games. e.g. running track in Germany, cycling in UK, water sports in Australia, gymnastics in USA and etc.

[@generybarczyk6993]

In 1972, a statewide referendum in Colorado rejected any state funding for the the 1976 Winter Olympics, which had _already_ been awarded to Denver. Denver was forced to refuse its selection.

[@luxushauseragency]

Professor Zimbalist made a suggestion near the end which we have mentioned many times. It is pretty obvious to us that the Olympics originated in Olympia and that is where it should always be hosted. Imagine all the money and time which would be saved, going forward. FIFA could create a similar option for future world cup events. 🏅🏅🏅

[@Pwnulolumad]

Careful, you’re at risk of being labeled ethno-centric by those who are also at risk of being accused of cultural appropriation or ableism. Insanity is said to be ‘doing the same thing expecting a different result’. We should ask who is to benefit from the status-quo, and be weary of those who deceitfully or ignorantly claim that the next host nation will resolve the abandoned stadium trend and other indicators of corruption.

[@seankilburn7200]

I think this makes a lot of sense. A permanent location eradicates most of the issues that these events create.

[@somebloodybrit8067]

Nah, the whole idea of international sporting events is to bring nations and different cultures together the meaans of sport, and showcasing x part of the world off to people who wouldn't have even been able to place it roughly on a map beforehand. Hosting an international event in the same place defeats the principle of it as you will get the same thing every time and not showcase anywhere else par that one place.

[@seankilburn7200]

@@somebloodybrit8067 You have a point but the vast majority of nations do not have the infrastructure already in place to support these sporting events which creates a great many problems. Perhaps they could only allow nations that are able to support it using existing infrastructure though this would rule out most countries.

[@sharpe3698]

@@seankilburn7200 Multi-Nation hosting seems like an easy solution to that problem. It's much easier for a country to field 1-2 near event ready venues and pool with their neighbors. It also works towards the image and spirit of internationalism

[@EliteChingon]

Great reporting

[@haidgu]

"last of its kind" - as if there were any 200 billion world cups completely bought by a government without any footballing merit.

[@Alex-mg2rx]

@@olearysbf6580 yeah because they are oil tycoons

[@faisalalhay5445]

They are the Asian champions. Ignorant 😆. And they clearly spent 10 billion on stadiums. The rest is on their own country infrastructure. Something your country is lacking 😑

[@ExcelSpreadSheetUserWarrior]

@@olearysbf6580 Oil & Gas wealth is not impressive, they literally just got lucky. Shows no sign of innovation and intelligence IMO.

[@मित्रों-ल1ङ]

@@olearysbf6580 Ireland and Luxembourg's too . What's the point.

[@khoa2kin297]

@@मित्रों-ल1ङ abuse is not culture that's the point

[@markdowding5737]

Here is an idea. Make five cities to host permanently the Olympic games and divide them to be one in each continent (six if you consider South America to be its own continent). This way you get much more time to prepare for each game and you don't have to constantly build infrastructure worth millions that will be abandoned as soon as the games end.

[@georgsimpson3378]

Every City would want that- no one wants to pay for all the infrastructure for a one time event...

[@oyugilinus1503]

Please edit your post. South America is actually a continent on its own.

[@markdowding5737]

@@oyugilinus1503 Some consider America a single continent, and some consider it to be two (I personally favor the latter). But do you know why in the Olympic flag there are 5 rings and not 6? Because America was regarded as a single continent when they made the first games (you might disagree with that but that is how they classified it). I said five continents to keep things in line with that original spirit, which it's something that makes perfect sense. Please properly inform yourself before trying to call out people on their mistakes.

[@jon_j__]

@@oyugilinus1503 In addition to Mark's historically-focused reply: Maybe you should consider whether you have a consistent and unambiguous definition of a "continent". Because, as far as I'm aware, there is no such thing. (North & South Americas, or just America? Europe & Asia & Africa, or Eurasia & Africa, or Eurasica? If you chose to separate Europe from Asia, can you explain the boundary? Was Africa a separate continent before they dug the Suez Canal? Why? If Australia/Oceania is a continent, why isn't New Zealand (they have distinct large continental shelves)? Antarctica is, I believe, the only continent that is agreed by everyone.)

[@oyugilinus1503]

@@markdowding5737 well based on your description of the Olympics your comment makes sense now. However, have you seen the first inconsistency? That the world has changed a lot now? First, we have Oceania now, which is not represented. Secondly, I doubt huge South American countries like Brazil and Argentina would want to be classified alongside the US, Canada, and Mexico knowing that in such a set up their chances are zero. Lastly, the original Olympics was held in a hardly modernized, urbanized, and globalized world. I doubt any country with a capacity to hold the games would just stand back and let another country hold it permanently. Remember, the Olympics is also a sign of economic success and prestige. Why for example, would Beijing and Seoul rest knowing Tokyo has been handed a lifetime responsibility of displaying its might?

[@arslongavitabrebis]

A city needing housing could build Olympic infrastructures that could be repurposed as homes. The sales of the apartments or houses could finance the building cost. May be…

[@DarkNexarius]

The cost overruns by a PRIVATE company like the IOC should NEVER be taken over by the government. If the contract has that included it's just "automatic corruption enabled".

[@MrChowTheTroll]

Fun fact with the USA hosting the fifa world cup, they should only use 100k+ stadiums since they have heaps of them.... Soccer world cup can even be hosted in multiple countries, and even an Australia/NZ host (they host the women world cup, but that's a different cake) would be legendary in a different way because Australia is part of the AFC and NZ with oceania retrospectively.... And maybe even singa/malay/indo can jump on the bandwagon as well..... WA of Australia (with Perth Stadium) or even SA (Adelaide Oval) alongside with maybe 3-4 grounds in singa/indo/malay (maybe the new jakarta stadium that is being built at the moment, surabaya can be another host, singapore national stadium can be expanded to fit 40-50k and KL have a massive stadium in its own right or rather than surabaya hosting a few games, another malay city can host a few games instead) region can host several groups (lets say group A, B, C or whatever), since those regions are like 3-4 hours away between each other. The rest of the east cost and NZ (lets say MCG, Stadium Australia, Suncorp, SFS, Eden Park, Westpac Stadium and maybe a few other regional cities in the east cost/NZ such as Geelong/Newcastle/Gold Coast/Dunedin can host a few games) They merge later on in the tournament since FIFA plans to expand the world cup, so lets expand it to multiple host countries. (such as west group play their knockouts in the west till they meet the eastern group which they play their knockout in the east and then that get shared). Quarter finals could be held in Perth, KL, Eden Park and Suncorp. Semis - New Jakarta Stadium and Stadium Australia Finals and third place - MCG and maybe Singapore National Stadium. For visa issues, use Australia as the standard, then if they have an aussie visa (show tickets to games and reasonable funds or hotel booking as standard), they can go to NZ/malay/indo or singa for 30 days no issues during the world cup without having to apply for another visa. Its will require complex negotiations and a bit more time in the later stages of the game (to allow for travel) and a Oct/Nov/Dec hosting period. But its can be done. Olympics is a bigger complex issue, but i feel there should be at one or 2 cities per continent ready to host games at a drop of a hat and rotate as such if no new bidders come along....

[@Super-verse]

The Cricket World Cup happens in different cities/countries. It's the best thing to do.

[@11_jesusisking]

No one cares.

[@SachiraBhanu]

It's a boring sport.

[@11_jesusisking]

@@SachiraBhanu 5-6 hours

[@somebloodybrit8067]

Shame that half the ICC events are in India tho who won't even let blind players get visas for entry.

[@itr8247]

@@somebloodybrit8067 terror threat is bigger than some WC.

[@chiblackjesus]

it barely talks about qatar. Continue at your own risk

[@DangerDave-e7u]

13:55 Why woodblock music over interview?

[@rebumatadele6725]

i was here to for the world cup not Olympics

[@harrythompson6977]

don't get why they don't build modular stadiums that can be kept up to date easier or reconfigured around existing infrastructure such as transport or hotels etc

[@cricketarena4926]

Why western media not mentioned that every firm is britiah or European that built the stadium labor also work for them

[@sunilkumargarg9676]

You forgot the 2nd biggest sports league in the world. IPL, India & the game is cricket. Started as late as year 2007.

[@kashifmehmood59]

Tum har jaga pohanch k paish kr diya karo apni..

[@sunilkumargarg9676]

@@kashifmehmood59 Miyanjee yehan Democracy hai…Barbara kee Aazadi.

[@briand5379]

If you don't have most of the infrastructure in place, most of your investments will be wasted. In countries like Brazil, most of the infrastructure they built has fallen into disrepair because they had no use for it before the games and have no use for it after the games. The same will happen in a smaller country like Qatar. Places like Paris and LA are ideal places for the games because they're large metro areas with most of the infrastructure already in use that just needs restorations and upgrades to accommodate the games.

[@Dalisu87]

2010 was the first winter World Cup. June is winter in South Africa.

[@adanmartinez4552]

Damn never thought of that, although I think referencing a winter World Cup is referring to the time of year on the calendar not the season of the host nation.

[@Dalisu87]

@@adanmartinez4552 seems a bit pointless to describe it like that though.

[@sdot5389]

Do Africans also forget South America is also south of the equator? Uruguay, Brazil, Chile and Argentina all hosted World Cups prior to South Africa. South Africa was the FIFTH winter World Cup, not first.

[@sihlebudaza8802]

*Correction* The first winter world cup was held in South Africa in 2010 between June and July, that time was winter in the southern hemisphere.

[@sdot5389]

No dumdum. The first winter World Cup was the first World Cup in June 1930 in Uruguay, which is also in the Southern Hemisphere. Southern Hemisphere winter World Cups also took place in Brazil (1950), Chile (1962), and Argentina (1978). All four of the preceded South Africa. So, Correction - South Africa 2010 were the fifth winter World Cup.

[@phd8296]

I’m rooting for Qatar for our next winter olympic. Let’s go make it happen lol

[@teancoffee208]

This is sarcasm right?

[@Quantum_in_Java]

Good idea though. Because infrastructure are now already there.They don't have to build something new now. 🤔

[@gamingwitheagleofficial8477]

@Oussama Ben Abdelbaki well you can ski in Desert

[@yutakago1736]

Qatar have intention to build the new city even if the new city will not host the world cup.

[@Skybar23]

I stop watching the olympics when they started introducing ridiculous sports like rock climbing, break dancing , skate boarding ...its become a hotbed for hobby sports, not elite sports

[@TheOwl22]

"elite" sports are quickly being overtaken by athletes that aren't considered the "elite".

[@natesnautical]

Why is the audio so badly mixed...we can help.

[@miloudbouchefra200]

1. Qatar can afford it. 2. The country is basically a city state (160 km by 80 km) and the entirety of it has been modernised. 3. The world cup is the best advertisement ever for who they're and what they're capable of. 4. Now everyone knows who's qatar and where it is located, before that, the country was overshadowed by Dubai. 5. Regular people will keep bitching about their inability to get waisted wherever they want, meanwhile investors will see the bigger picture and the hidden opportunities. Qatar is by all means a huge success.

[@Pfyzer]

Exactly, it's definitely an insane amount for a marketing budget whilst having long term investment for future accommodation

[@portcybertryx222]

Yeah right….the weather is intolerable. Most of the resources are already exploited. But Qatar did need this. It’s desperate as the oil money will soon run out

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

Why would anyone attending or watching this World Cup ever visit there after the games? A stricter culture than Dubai, horrible weather, a one-note economy - and now they’ll have bunch of empty infrastructure too. Sounds fantastic.

[@chinavirus841]

@@VideoAmericanStyle sounds like Europe

[@VideoAmericanStyle]

@@chinavirus841 Europe has a single-resource economy, has a conservative culture, no tourist appeal and is located in a sweltering desert? Sounds like you’ve never actually been to the continent🤔

[@tobiwan001]

When Americans say „in the world“ they mean in the US. Boston is just a random generic city that could be anywhere. There is probably 20 cities in China that look just like it. Many cities have rejected the Olympics before. Like Munich 2018.

[@joeblack4436]

I don't give a rat's hiney about the OG anyway. I used to love it, but not anymore. In my country ALL rights to broadcast is bought up by a monopolist company. Even access via the internet is geo-locked. But for snippet replays you can't watch at all if you don't subscribe to that monopolist company's service. Which is absolutely loaded beyond all reason and belief with other irrelevant channels. The IOC wipes it's hands of the matter. They are content to take payment. So yeah. If it's not first and foremost about the betterment of mankind, but rather just a corporate angle, then I'm not interested. Making money is good and well. But... They. Always. Push. It. Too. Far. Beyond the humane.

[@jtjr26]

While the video did mention autocratic states bidding to host these mega events I think they could have gone more into the concept of sports washing.

[@ericcarabetta1161]

They need to just rotate the WC and Olympics from like 3 or four different cities that have sufficient permanent infrastructure to support such large global events.

[@jon_j__]

For the World Cup, there might be a few cities with 4-5 v large football stadiums that are regularly used. The only one I can think of is London, but there might be others, and regional sharing might be viable in some cases. Overall, I think the World Cup could reasonably require bidders to NOT do any major new construction. For the summer Olympics, the problem is that there isn't anywhere that has all of the permanent infrastructure. It's such a diverse mix of sports that there's nowhere in the world that is so amazing at all of the sports that they need top-notch stadiums for all of them. And anything that you build specially will be too big and expensive for ongoing use. For the winter Olympics, the problem is climate change. There might be a few places that have most of the needed infrastructure, but they probably won't have enough snow in 30-50 years' time. (Or everything will have to be moved higher up the mountain, which isn't easy.)

[@troybaxter]

@@jon_j__ US has tons of stadiums that can be used for the World Cup (literally every stadium used in 2026 in the US is an already existing NFL stadium). And before you say, “but that isn’t for football”, an American football field and a soccer pitch are fairly comparable, and there is a lot of sideline space at NFL games.

[@jon_j__]

@@troybaxter I agree the US has tons of stadiums. My point was that I don't think they have any cities with 4+ high-capacity stadiums. (I believe the plan for the next WC is for the matches to be spread out between several cities on the East Coast, because each city only has one.)

[@troybaxter]

@@jon_j__ also, the next WC will be spread out over many cities across the US, Canada, and Mexico. Given that FIFA is increasing pool size by 50%, it makes sense to have more cities come into the mix.

[@troybaxter]

@@jon_j__ oh, and fun fact. Of the 11 100,000 capacity stadiums in the world, 8 (3rd through 10th largest) are in the US, and all are college football stadiums. Also, Dallas-Fort Worth and London are the only two cities with a stadium that have a raw seating capacity of 80,000+ (minus additional seating added and standing room). Dallas-Fort Worth: Cotton Bowl - 92,100 AT&T - 80,000 London: Wembley - 90,000 Twickenham - 82,000

[@A1un9ine]

Ironic bringing on american pundits and american propagandists to talk about the World Cup that is even way above your reach from the olympics

[@amachefe0]

This video feels like a projection and wish than reality. At least, World Cup hosting will still continue to be highly sought after

[@mazibukomail]

Yeah but there's been a palpable decrease in interest.

[@idkidk8278]

Its won't be the last. .

[@SoCalFreelance]

I would agree to making LA our nations permanent Olympic host city. It would give them an incentive to develop nice permanent facilities for training athletes and hosting. A permanent site location should be identified for Europe and Asia as well.

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

Or it could just always be hosted by Greece. I'd be happy with that.

[@SoCalFreelance]

@@merrymachiavelli2041 That would be amazing, great idea! 👍

[@jessieBroxxer1999]

Honestly I think a chosen city for each continent that rotates would be a bit easier

[@shivvashishthabhargava4600]

Last of it's kind due to lack of financial commonsense and disregard for human life.

[@Pfyzer]

Not the first and Not the last. Welcome to Capitalism

[@inammir1979]

Look who is talking about " disregard for human life"

[@jimmiecgray]

Salt Lake 2002 made money, how? We spent little on new venues (that are still in regular use till this day) and all the investment went into infustructure and a city rail system. You just need to think of the long term success and not the event itself.

[@dahasolomon7314]

Qatar lost some prestige in the west but the reception have been great in the East. The newly wealthy east I what everyone is chasing these days.

[@ConradSpoke]

Sure, other fascist countries think Qatar is quite prestigious. Not so much the democracies.

[@wout4yt]

They're just chasing the money that greases their palms.

[@matzmn]

What is Qatar going to do with these stadiums after the world cup is over? Hosting the world cup just does not make sense for a small country like Qatar. Mega events should only go to places that already have the facilities so that the cost can be kept down.

[@paulorocky]

“Donate them to Africa” apparently

[@Rightonrightoff]

For a country like Qatar, cost was never the issue. Which the likes of you seem unable to comprehend.

[@Rightonrightoff]

@@paulorocky This is a lie. The stadium is being donated to Serbia in Eastern Europe, not Africa. Do you people read to be properly informed or just type for no reason?

[@JohnCena-ex6zt]

Most of the seats will be donated including the entirety of stadium 974, the rest will be repurposed for cafes, shops, schools, sporting facilities, health clinics, hotels, community spaces and more.

[@heyitsbranigan]

Feels weird typing this but FIFA got it right. Changing it from host cities to host countries/regions solves basically all the issues

[@jehiahmaduro6827]

How about 6 cities for the Olympic Games instead of just one. Three for the summer games and three for the winter games. One city on each habitable continent, with permanent venues for the mega event. If it were up to me the cities would be (for the Winter Games) Santiago Chile, South America, Almaty Kazakhstan Asia, Lillehammer Norway Europe, (for the Summer Games) Brisbane Queensland Australia, Johannesburg South Africa, Africa, Toronto Canada North America. This Way the events are shared on every continent.

[@stevoc9930]

We can only hope it's the last World Cup of it's kind.

[@jeffbguarino]

I remember the Montreal Olympics and the province of Quebec was in debt for years. These sporting events are a total waste of money. So kids go and see it and apparently get inspired ,the same as all the kids that want to be in the NHL and go nowhere. The chances of making it to the Olympics are next to zero. So they waste so much time and effort on a lottery. Better to go to school and learn a skill that will pay off for years to come. Sports are a waste of effort in general. The long term benefits from hosting the Olympics was never there, it was voodoo economics. I never watch the Olympics and it is hardly on my radar except when it is in the news. I am not impressed by the athletes, they slowly break the old records but everything is reaching a limit and in the future, no records will be broken unless the athletes do genetic engineering on themselves. The whole thing is boring and always was boring.

[@michaelzhang7897]

You sound like such a fun guy!

[@jeffbguarino]

@@michaelzhang7897 So do you really think anyone finds school fun ? If you want fun , go to Disney World, that is what I do. Why waste taxpayer money on sports that a small % of population cares about. I wanted to learn piano but schools don't teach piano, only football. So my parents paid for piano lessons after school. They should be doing the same thing with sports at school. It is time to start targeting education at school to learning topics , sports and gym have no place. My daughter wanted to learn dancing. They don't teach dancing at school so I paid for her lessons. Why are schools stuck in this 200 year old tradition of teaching sports on school time with taxpayers money ??? Total waste.

[@michaelzhang7897]

@@jeffbguarino Why pay for dancing lessons for your daughter, according to you it's a waste of effort and money. Your daughter has basically no chance to become a professional dancer. #logic

[@BatCaveOz]

I'm guessing you always got picked last for sports in school.

[@starcar23]

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[@WDI2008]

Should have mentioned the Asian Games, the Pan American Games, and the Commonwealth Games as Mega Events.

[@nadeemdean3869]

I don't think the Commonwealth Games attracts anywhere near the amount of fans/spectators as WC & Olympics.

[@WDI2008]

@@nadeemdean3869 They are more so warm up Mega Events.

[@pocono_paintball]

Instead of a host city for the Olympics, why not host venues? That way multiple nations can all share.

[@Blacksheep00666]

"Mega means BIG'' -Andrew zimbalist

[@solssun]

Hey dudes, you keep using a harp audio track in the background of your videos & it’s very similar to Apples default alarms - it distracts me from the content so much when you use it

[@thachronic100]

They said the same thing about the Brazil World Cup lol

[@d.bcooper2271]

﴿إِنَّمَا أَمْوَالُكُمْ وَأَوْلَادُكُمْ فِتْنَةٌ ۚ وَاللَّهُ عِندَهُ أَجْرٌ عَظِيمٌ﴾ Your wealth and your children are but a trial, and Allah has with Him a great reward. Qur'aan 64:15

[@ge8705]

But but the more money city or country can buy the hosting of the game.

[@zytrik1]

Let’s do the Olympic Games in Olympia, Greece. And the FIFA World Cup in Switzerland. Always.

[@georgegeorge2838]

They did it to develop the infrqstructure mainly. Which was not developed in previous years. The expenditure is not wasted as so many barren lands are developed. These people are not idoits. I am in Qatar for last 7 years. When inl cwme here there were no major roads. Now all outskirts are being developed. And they have huge investments outside Qatar.

[@stadiosports8690]

It’s almost impossible to host WC in same city unless you willing to spend $200b .

[@2l84t]

In bribes?

[@stadiosports8690]

@@2l84t defamatory allegation

[@BryanChance]

$200 billion!!

[@richard09able]

It’s really not worth it in many aspects. With costs overruns and long term non use if multi billion dollar facilities it’s not worth it.

[@gugulethuzangwa8358]

South Africa did not host the Olympics in 2010

[@nawwk79]

I'd say Olympics and World Cup should be once every 6 years instead of 4 years.

[@merrymachiavelli2041]

The Olympics should just be permanently hosted by Greece.

[@rock3tcatU233]

Greece can barely afford to feed its own population...

[@rudhthongvanit682]

Did S. Africa really host the Olympic in 2010? Really Bloomberg!

[@justluke8730]

Too bad LA didn't build public transportation for the Olympics...

[@TheOwl22]

actually they did. The transportation already exists at this point.

[@justluke8730]

@@TheOwl22 OK sry. I'm not from LA, but all I heard was that public transportation in La sucks and no one uses it. But apparently not.

[@Pilot-Breakfast]

I think having place per continent. Then no part of the world is left out but then its not completely new places every time having to burden themselves with these costs.

[@TheOwl22]

actually that's gonna be a challenge. How about expanding the bid of the games to an entire region?

[@d.bcooper2271]

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken says the decision to ban women from college will "come with consequences." What if Muslims said the country that harbors those who insult the Prophet ﷺ will "face consequences"? Throwing around threats is allowed when it is against Muslims. Saying that banning women from college is 👍 is the ultimate blasphemy for the liberal.

[@deforged]

23:27 i thought homosexuality was illegal in Qatar?

[@robLV]

that's not how homosexuality works 😄

[@playman350]

What's this about sustainability ? The fake snow at the 2022 winter games was a pretty bad look in that regard. Also, while I found the part about LA 1984 being a success and LA 2028 possibility also being one due to there being existing infrastructure, I found the lack of discussion about Paris 2024, which is less than two years away and *far* from ready at all, a bit disappointing.

[@JamesRodriguez-qs3hg]

The world Cup in Qatar, was the best, and most organized in the history

[@TheOwl22]

cry more, bot

[@ConradSpoke]

Yup. Authoritarian, totalitarian, fascist countries are really organized.