Why Rank 1 Global Is on Another Level - In Too Deep with Frodan

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Frodan

Frodan

Күн бұрын

TFT Set 8.5 Guide - How Rank 1 Global/China Plays TFT on a Level That’s Beyond the Meta
60second is not only the rank 1 global holder but the gap between him and the rank 2 holder is enormous. In this episode of In Too Deep, we dive into the mind of the best player on the ladder to see why he does what he does in a tournament setting.
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@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Hey all, hope this video helps you see why top CN players are so heavily respected in TFT & won 3 championships in a row. We around with new tools such as telestration! Hope y'all like it. If it's more distracting than helpful let me know. 2 things I didn't mention in the video that I thing is worth bringing up. First, MF items don't matter much because she was 1* and we were chasing 3* Sona. Items on 3* >> Items on 1* units! The second thing is DON'T PLAY ULTIMATE EZREAL WITH UNDERGROUND EZREAL. Parallel makes Ezreal's ability count as ONE projectile instead of two, reducing your quickdraw activations. Also, at the time of this comment, there's currently a bug that makes it not work with Rising Spell Force entirely so avoid that so you don't end up writing yet a twitlonger.
@davguev
@davguev Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was really wondering about Ezreal. If Ultimate Ezreal is your main carry in the late game, Parallel is good in that case, right?
@danchou7272
@danchou7272 Жыл бұрын
@@davguevyep that is correct!
@novaue4905
@novaue4905 Жыл бұрын
as of the most recent patch this is fixed : )
@markusheikkinen9481
@markusheikkinen9481 Жыл бұрын
He 100% took away the Dragon’s Claw so that his opponent can’t take it
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Good note, I missed that! So many intricate, layered decisions that are easy to gloss over. Dragon's Claw would make 60s damage much less effective.
@bobbychang28
@bobbychang28 Жыл бұрын
After watching the vid, also noticed that he made the d cap on sona to utilize the jeweled lotus. Personally I would have gotten for a tank item, but he recognized he could just go for tank items later on (especially with the anvil carousels in this set). The ezreal dmg is great, but sona definitely duo carried with the healing and damage.
@frodoschall
@frodoschall Жыл бұрын
so why he didnt reforge ?
@toadonwheels
@toadonwheels 10 ай бұрын
There are so many tiny things that add up to give this guy an edge. Notice how he clicks to move his little legend around the board and moves the units on his bench back and forth during down time. It's sooo minor, but it would have a tiny effect on the ability of opponents to quickly read his board while scouting. Barely any edge at all, but still. Maybe there's that 1 game in 50 where an opponent is scouting everyone, and lingers for an extra second looking at your board because it's not static information, causing them to delay a decision by a tiny bit, and barely miss dropping a unit to move it... shifting the balance of the next round and costing them hp that gives YOU the edge, and you end up in 4th with them in 5th, with a small hp difference.
@BwopinB
@BwopinB Жыл бұрын
Hey Frodan, I am new here because I saw Mort saying you were a phenomenal resource for getting better at TFT. Loved this video and I love the analysis you bring. Hoping I can climb with the lessons I learned here and in future videos! Thanks for making this video!
@1Giovann1
@1Giovann1 Жыл бұрын
On what patch are they playing?
@ChallenJer_
@ChallenJer_ Жыл бұрын
I love the format of these videos, they’re so helpful and give a lot of insight on what higher level players are thinking.
@sevenseven6123
@sevenseven6123 Жыл бұрын
Damn Frodan, these videos are lit. Really appreciate the effort, this will become a - for tft standards - very popular channel imo. So keep doing it!
@brettrhyno255
@brettrhyno255 Жыл бұрын
really enjoy the content frodan. by far your best tft content on ur channel besides ur broadcasting so far! keep em coming bro!
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@horvathszzsolt
@horvathszzsolt Жыл бұрын
Amazing content. Learnt more watching this than all the TFT videos I've seen... COMBINED. Seriously. You're doing a great job. Keep them vids coming.
@Lesterberne
@Lesterberne Жыл бұрын
Awesome video as always! Thanks for touching on a lot of beginner stuff like positioning in the early game!
@devastae12
@devastae12 Жыл бұрын
another sick video frodan. This game is just a masterclass of positioning against hacker. Literally saved infinite hp in the mid game when you can easily lose 10-15 hp per round from hackers/blitz hooks
@SebastianNguyen-bz3ct
@SebastianNguyen-bz3ct Жыл бұрын
Let's go Frodan, best TFT content on youtube bar none right now!! Huge fan
@keek1337
@keek1337 Жыл бұрын
These videos are so great! I’m returning to the game and the info, editing, and personality here are golden. Thank you!
@nnh-wm8sk
@nnh-wm8sk Жыл бұрын
I like the way how you share your/his toughts. You got me mate, greetings from germany
@tamura77Rust
@tamura77Rust Жыл бұрын
Love this video format, been a long time fan of your VOD review streams and the small edits made this condensed format that much better. Keep it up Frodan
@jheckie14
@jheckie14 Жыл бұрын
Here from reddit after your k3soju video. I really like this kind of content. Also the 7 year old in me couldn't help laughing whenever you were explaining the various options kinda implying what people would normally do, only for 60sec to immediately go for the opposite onscreen. It was the pinnacle of "...aaand I guess we're going this way"
@thatguyandehh
@thatguyandehh Жыл бұрын
Production level is crazy 🔥🔥🔥
@drunkentsundere
@drunkentsundere Жыл бұрын
Does more Quickdraws benefit Ezreal in terms of damage or is it like Kaisa? Because it looks like the first projectile which only chills and doesn't deal damage gets doubled and if that's the case playing Ultimate Ezreal would benefit the Ezreal more. (UE could have been more beneficial even if Ezreal does benefit from extra Quickdraw damage.) Edit: I just read the other comment that explained rising spell force gets bugged with parallel so now I know why he didn't use it.
@cuewarstaner1894
@cuewarstaner1894 Жыл бұрын
love this style and form of contents! Very enjoyable to watch! Thanks for making those Dan!
@tarosse
@tarosse Жыл бұрын
8:20 great visuals!
@ElFritatta
@ElFritatta Жыл бұрын
I think some of what might be hurting rising spell force is that it's bugged - running parallel breaks it. Not sure how or why but he straight up doesn't gain the stacking stats. People not knowing and screwing up their small ez probably tanks the stats at least a little bit.
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
That does play a big part of it, yeah. That said, I have heard many top players I respect also say they think Rising Spellforce is straight up weaker than Unrelenting Force (Vi) and not worth playing. So those combined factors led me to pick this game specifically
@inanchkizilyourek5127
@inanchkizilyourek5127 Жыл бұрын
thanks for your time and effort put in this video. I respect that. Liked and subscribed.
@vacannot
@vacannot Жыл бұрын
I'm new here, you give great commentary, i see a bright youtube and caster future!
@notyourbusiness1773
@notyourbusiness1773 Жыл бұрын
@Frodan You should never take the data at face value. The data provided by these websites are raw data and must be interpreted like this: Ezreal augment has a bad placement, therefore it must be bat right? no. Ezreal augment has a bad place IN the SITUATION in which people pick it. Basically, people are most likely picking ezreal augment because they are going for underground, and they are only going for underground because they feel like they are in a bad early game position and must give up their early game for a potential comeback later in the game. Ezreal augment is picked when people are behind = low placement, but it doesnt mean it is inherently bad.
@TooStealthy4U
@TooStealthy4U Жыл бұрын
this is the first video I have seen from you and definitely a fan! love the way you break down planning, flexibility, and options super helpful keep it up :D
@wowfurion3765
@wowfurion3765 Жыл бұрын
You want to win early underground games, because the loss streak isnt worth the vault lock cracks, losing underground early is really punishing since the reward for losing vs winning isnt a good trade off, which is why he went for the level 4 and slammed the renek carry early
@Vlade_Ye
@Vlade_Ye Жыл бұрын
This helped me understand alot thx for the vid
@videitos09
@videitos09 Жыл бұрын
His opponent played it perfectly he took those fiddles to ruin Ezreal's AoE dmg even adding a ZZrot on them.
@luc4041
@luc4041 Жыл бұрын
Boutta watch. Frodan the 🐐
@pedrosk445
@pedrosk445 Жыл бұрын
where can watch 60seconds play? does he stream on twitch...?
@gumaaaaaa
@gumaaaaaa Жыл бұрын
Please keep making this kind of video!
@Rikoris
@Rikoris Жыл бұрын
it is I bebe was my fav part
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Jisoo? WOACH
@jaharitucker3953
@jaharitucker3953 Жыл бұрын
Your content is soooo good! Keep it up
@shambothelizard3793
@shambothelizard3793 Жыл бұрын
Great video, good analysis, and a nice simple editing style. One thing, though, you use this phrase "a nod to.." quite a lot, and I'm not sure you know what it means.
@TheBROWNJUNIOR
@TheBROWNJUNIOR Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, I'm sort of new to tft and I didn't quite understand why hold the tactician crown? Thx already and so happy about Frodan Vids 🙏
@Lesterberne
@Lesterberne Жыл бұрын
You mean why leave it on bench? It's active regardless if it's equipped or on bench
@TheBROWNJUNIOR
@TheBROWNJUNIOR Жыл бұрын
@@Lesterberne Oh, I didn't know. Thanks mate!
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
@@Lesterberne Exactly this!
@sajadrezai4707
@sajadrezai4707 Жыл бұрын
I actually did make from last place with 8 point to the first against one with 100 and other one with 58 points. I had under ground till stage 7 and then goodness i got so many good items. with so many golds got insta 3 champs with 3 stars and poor dudes had no chance got them from top to the under me
@laytinay
@laytinay Жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I'm pretty surprised how little he values MR shred passing on spark on vi a couple of times.
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Same, I was surprised (and still think he should have built anti-MR) but it worked out! Goes to show you how powerful of a comp he built
@paovue2638
@paovue2638 Жыл бұрын
Should've just run ultimate ezreal and ezreal together. 2 QD is enough since he got super. Global ult is stronger/slow whole board attack speed
@NovaNinjaHD
@NovaNinjaHD Жыл бұрын
potential video idea. do u think u could make a video going over tools we could use to help ourselves when playing tft? (ie. apps/overlays, sheets, websites)
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
You're not the first to ask this so I'll consider it! Will look into this and see if I have enough material to put something together
@FlexNiko
@FlexNiko Жыл бұрын
the scouter weather trick is soooo super useless :D you can literally wait 5 seconds for the fight to end, and then see it above the shop :D
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Not useless when you are on carousel or get offer the Janna Hero Augment!
@LatDropKing810
@LatDropKing810 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@putfaithinjesus
@putfaithinjesus Жыл бұрын
Bro love your commentary
@mortalace22
@mortalace22 Жыл бұрын
I just watched Voldemort uno reverse card Harry Potter in this game
@devin6437
@devin6437 Жыл бұрын
The plosives are crazy
@reignrl
@reignrl Жыл бұрын
the vi positioning on the last round was to avoid getting leona ulted, dont think it was a misposition just an unfortunate situation
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
I think that's pretty fair to say. My instinct still says he greeded positioning of the Randuin's too much, but given the constraints of "I want max value, how do I now navigate this?", 60s optimized as much as he could for the last fights.
@Djarnor
@Djarnor Жыл бұрын
Surprised he didnt play ultimate ezreal, and that you didnt talk about it. I thought this comp gets a lot better with Parallel
@ElFritatta
@ElFritatta Жыл бұрын
Rising spell force and parallel are bugged rn, playing them together entirely turns of rising spell force.
@ryxsenl3018
@ryxsenl3018 Жыл бұрын
Clean analysis (:
@ti0sg853
@ti0sg853 Жыл бұрын
Love the format, could you review a game of someone playing from behind if you didnt already?
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Totally! The next video is from a mid-roll/awkward position, but I am also on the hunt for one where it looks like a disaster and they need to come back
@ti0sg853
@ti0sg853 Жыл бұрын
@@FrodanTV thank you, struggling in this part of the game and always ending my default comp cause i don't know how to come back
@danieldykstra4100
@danieldykstra4100 Жыл бұрын
60second brain go brrrrrrr. ty for this learned infinite!
@daksyanfaizal6003
@daksyanfaizal6003 Жыл бұрын
what software or extension that you use to translate chinese writing in the images for the augments?
@chance3610
@chance3610 Жыл бұрын
WeChat has a translator from images or camera, but I wouldn't know what he uses
@danchou7272
@danchou7272 Жыл бұрын
Edited the English augment over the Chinese one. No software/extension!
@nanaapple8100
@nanaapple8100 Жыл бұрын
@frodan do you consider this a highroll game? as a masters player i see this as a 1 in 4 start. i know that's not the focus of the video but just curious how you feel about being able to replicate the success of this game.
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Yeah I consider it a generally high roll start because he hits 4 underground pretty early. That said, I think it's important to highlight games where you do spot the highroll opening and be able to convert off of it. I think many players would have made different decisions with this opener which is why I chose to highlight it.
@nanaapple8100
@nanaapple8100 Жыл бұрын
@@FrodanTV i appreciate the effort put into it. lots of people have an idea of what they wanna do, preconceived really. when they don't get those units, they're often hitting something else but blame RNG for not getting units in their endgame board. on the other side of the coin though, undergrounds is a really easy line to spot. you'll also save life if you 2 star the units without rolling, have immediately good items, like rank 1 here. i'm curious how much he'd roll if he didn't 2 star everything naturally. maybe cashout at 5 and play catchup at level 8. the real highlight for me was spotting the positioning differences. that's the marginal stuff that got him to a 2nd place finish IMO. most people would finish 4th from that position.
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
@@nanaapple8100 Thanks for the thought out reply. I agree that his spot was very strong and very likely to Top 4 based on his stage 2. But I also want to feature all the small things he tries to optimize to improve his placements against elite competition. I'm glad you came to the same conclusion! Learning how to play TFT from all kinds of spots (very unlucky to very lucky) is important to develop all skillsets. I'll be sure to pick a less dominant opener and show more difficult spots for the next one.
@nanaapple8100
@nanaapple8100 Жыл бұрын
@@FrodanTV thank you so much. i've loved your work since SC2 days back when everyone was on that grind.
@KionP14
@KionP14 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic content
@julianbeck8258
@julianbeck8258 Жыл бұрын
How is he not valuing parallel ezral over a 3rd quickshot aint no way that 40% (->20% dmg) is better than the big aoe ezreal ult
@BP-xv7fj
@BP-xv7fj Жыл бұрын
Tbh, he must be a smart guy irl
@pilgrim43
@pilgrim43 Жыл бұрын
Stand United would’ve given ~ 20 AP and 24% AD for most of top 6, wouldn’t that have added more value than jeweled? Jeweled lotus gave his second carry crit but feels somewhat wasted on ez and his frontline uses Stand at least somewhat similarly to jeweled lotus
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
The impact of crit strike on abilities is 140% damage, so it scales much higher than 20-25% flat AP/AD in this situation. Both are solid choices, but the Jeweled Lotus is better in the immediate and has a higher ceiling late game in my opinion.
@Milfina30
@Milfina30 Жыл бұрын
imagine he only picked the augment because of ezreal for underground trait
@followerofthechurchofsumi3868
@followerofthechurchofsumi3868 Жыл бұрын
Can we get a huanmie video his gameplay seems like on another level, would love an indepth look at it!
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Will happily do one come next set! Huanmie didn’t particularly enjoy this set so his motivation was lower, but hopefully he comes back strong soon
@matbearpig
@matbearpig Жыл бұрын
keep it up homie!
@FiFiFilth
@FiFiFilth Жыл бұрын
Can't believe he didn't take the ezreal on carousel, in my experience, parallel trait makes a 3 star ez with augment the strongest hypercarry in the game. 3 Quickdraw over parallel trait just can't be right.
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
Parallel is actually downgrading Ezreal's ability for Quickdraw activations because his straight-line Parallel ability only counts as 1 projectile instead of 2. This means that Ultimate Ezreal is actually downgrading Underground Ezreal's damage. 😔
@xXNiggooXx
@xXNiggooXx Жыл бұрын
@@FrodanTV and here is where I need some kind of math. Because who cares if you downgrade your quickshots if you hit the whole board? He doesn't even play full quickshot anyway. You even say in the Video how often he got stuck on small hp units. But if it's bugged with rising spellforce that's a whole other point...
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
@@xXNiggooXx It's a valid question. I don't have the math available to me right this moment so I can't back that up with numbers. The way it's been explained to me in the past is that hitting the whole board isn't Ezreal's win condition -- it's stalling for Ezreal to scale so that his casts the 2nd half of the fight keep getting strongest. His first few casts, while impactful, aren't nearly as important as the casts later in the fight. Nor would it be strong enough to kill backliners before they potentially heal up. However, like I said, these are explanations based on other top challenger experiences so I don't have any proof myself. If there was evidence to suggest otherwise, I'm happy to walk back everything I said about this hahaha. Also the bug does make it ineffective entirely so obviously don't even try it until they fix that 😛
@Light-qi8ol
@Light-qi8ol Жыл бұрын
aegis bonus is low compared to its equivalents from previous sets. so low that randuins equals having 3 aegis active. idc.
@Daarkuun
@Daarkuun Жыл бұрын
6 Malphites on 2 rolls. Just hit bruh
@Aluckardo
@Aluckardo Жыл бұрын
Idk looked like a very normal underground sups game to me, nothing mindbreakind
@FrodanTV
@FrodanTV Жыл бұрын
I see you're saying on the surface (it's 2-1 underground, he goes for a 4 heist), but don't necessarily agree. He didn't try to lose streak and instead went for high-tempo and didn't even make econ until late Stage 2. Took an augment people consider to be quick weak. Didn't start gathering Supers until stage 4. These are only some of the factors of why it's interesting on top of all the small micro decisions he optimizes to show how deep he thinks about the game. And to top it all off, it's in a high-stakes tournament environment against the best players in the region (multiple worlds finalists and the reigning world champion). I think it's a very impressive game!
@Amaling
@Amaling Жыл бұрын
Known you for a decade now, stopped hearing of you since I stopped caring about the children’s gambling card game. was not expecting such a video to pop up in my timeline lol
@iezen1719
@iezen1719 Жыл бұрын
Cool vid
@Artes2025
@Artes2025 Жыл бұрын
Chao dollar!!! BRIC'S🎉🎉🎉
@atrbulldog5955
@atrbulldog5955 Жыл бұрын
Clicked this video expecting league of legends lol
@pentabuzz149
@pentabuzz149 Жыл бұрын
the mid beast of tft
@saberrider87
@saberrider87 Жыл бұрын
he didnt win because no ionic or shiv i guess
@TH-dg2mm
@TH-dg2mm Жыл бұрын
This is kind of a poor replay to commentate on... like the dude hit 4 Underground on 2-2. If you hit 4 Underground on 2-1/2-2 you should be winning that lobby 99% of the time.
@KymoriXYZ
@KymoriXYZ Жыл бұрын
good video but this really didnt seem that impressive
@fuckhandlesgivemynameback
@fuckhandlesgivemynameback Жыл бұрын
UoU
@rostien22
@rostien22 Жыл бұрын
One of the worst analys i have seen in a long while. I have always thought frodan are extremely overrated and this proves it.
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