Why Red Bull must find a 2024 F1 race seat for Liam Lawson

[@tubularcandy812]

Lawson has no seat. But Stroll has a seat. That’s a shame ?

[@pablohyslop]

I used to hate on Stroll, but it can't be easy racing against world champions. It feels his passion is no longer there. Every interview I see him in, there is 0 joy or enthusiasm

[@itzmespencer]

I feel like Stroll is taking up space.

[@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI]

No, Thats a travesty

[@likilikiki]

@@pablohyslop People tend to "hate" Stroll because his dad is rich rather than him not doing well.

[@TubaTones]

@@itzmespencerso are we all. One could say the same for Perez, Zhou, Bottas, and host of others.

[@MrDiggityaus]

Vowles seems like a pretty intelligent operator. I think he just isn’t worrying too much at this stage about the second seat before the new regulations. He has to build pretty much an entire team which is operating in the 80’s on a shoe string budget.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Vowles seemingly pretty good in this.

[@TheDiasporaMedia]

Early 00’s. Saying Williams is operating in the 80s a bit of a stretch. I’ve been watching the downfall of Williams for over 23 years. They were still super competitive and operationally savvy technically advanced team in the early - mid 00s. But truth is writing was on the wall by the end of the 90s for Willies lads. With the direction f1 since then took with ever increasing budgets! Madone! But I get your point 👍🏾

[@MrDiggityaus]

@@TheDiasporaMedia It wasn’t a scientific analysis of Williams, more of a hyperbolic youtube comment analysis haha 😝

[@atkascha]

@@purwantiallan5089 Vowles was at Merc, pre-cost cap, when Merc were spending close to $300M / year. I think he's done a great job, and really smart, but to say "he's good at operating on a shoe string budget" is... a stretch.

[@Nikelaos_Khristianos]

*00s, not 80s 😂😂

[@karthikrao4506]

7 out of 20 drivers are from RB program. 9 out of 22 drivers are from RB this year in grid. Lawson is definitely in the right place 😂

[@takusamsara3375]

which mean RB junior program actually making a good way to enter the F1 compare to other , but the limited seat hurt it

[@MCoTEDDY]

​@@takusamsara3375limited seats? RB has more seats than anyone in F1. If RB can't get you a seat, chances are the other driver academies can't either.

[@takusamsara3375]

@@MCoTEDDY limited seat if they only use the RB seat , which mean RB + AT , compare to merc who has few satellite or customer team , or even ferarri who has Alfa romeo + haas

[@Airton2]

@@takusamsara3375 but did not haas only bought the ferrari engine? i think that haas is not a good option for young drivers

[@takusamsara3375]

@@Airton2 yes and no , haas still kinda ferrari satellite team, their reserve driver usually from ferrari academy

[@mcb0b1]

TBF Lawson is in a pretty good spot. Next year will be a crazy silly season and he could have some pretty good options open up for him.

[@yoda68zac11]

🤞

[@tobiaxelsson]

I've seen some information that Daniel was offered a seat for 2024 at Zandvoort and Tsunoda soon thereafter, so they signed both before they saw how good Lawson was and before Daniel was hurt. But always easy to know what to do in hindsight. I suspect it will all come down to how Daniel, Tsunoda and Perez perform 2024, if anyone of them perform badly there would probably be some changes in the team setup.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Agree.

[@413TomaccoRoad]

Liam is basically doing exactlywhat Daniel would have been doing in the same car.

[@umungus518]

I think perez retires after 24, daniel goes to rb and lawson goes to alpha

[@413TomaccoRoad]

@@umungus518 I think Lawson gets Perez' seat in '25.

[@umungus518]

@@413TomaccoRoad i don't think they'll want a repeat of gasly/albon

[@marcusfenix1069]

"He's been classified ahead of Yuki Tsunoda in all 3 grand prix they both finished..." They have only finished together twice.

[@sander2723]

Lawson and Piastri are so fun to watch

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yes. So too are Drugovich, Wien Margarete, Alisa Bosconovitch, and Kazuya Mishima.

[@sanguinor5609]

His overtake in Monaco was absolutely amazing

[@gnaihccn]

Media: Lets criticize redbull booting de vries after 10 race. Also, Lets criticize redbull not giving another rookie a seat. 😂

[@simonwardle5172]

So true!

[@chubs2312]

Bro!

[@peterfconley]

It’s fascinating how much a factor timing is for good drivers.

[@michaeldellorso889]

That’s the difference between good and great. Good need a bit of luck/fortune

[@TravisHi_YT]

Yep, despite how good you are, sometimes it's just dumb luck that one person gets a seat but another doesn't.

[@the-chow-hall]

personally i'd love to see alex and liam as teammates again even if at williams

[@jacosmusic]

Were they teammates before? 😮

[@the-chow-hall]

@@jacosmusic I think they were paired under RB in DTM when Alex took his break from F1, the vids of them riding together around Nordschleife are pretty cool

[@philippschmid7519]

really crazy idea: as soon as Max wins the championship, bench him for the rest of the season and give Liam a chance at RB

[@haniotis3421]

I don't think they will do that b/c they'll be wanting to try some things for next year's car w/ Max driving because the car will cater to Max, not Liam nor Sergio.

[@pgmallon]

Alot of people want to see Max drive and beat records. No sense putting a cork in that for someone that's had a few good outings.

[@rosetzu_nagasawa]

YES, get rid of unsportsmanship ALTOGETHER.

[@Ixxlostinabox]

As a Kiwi I can't edit for Liam to enter F1 full time. I was nervous when he took over for Daniel but he impressed me with how quick he started to fit in.

[@MaxFromSydney1]

Liam was great in Zandvoort on debut in super tricky conditions. I used to think that track was mickey mouse but a bit of rain made it seem really intimidating for any driver let alone a driver on debut. He was dropped in suddenly for FP3 then finished the race, and has driven well since. I’m a DannyRic fan but I look forward to Liam getting another opportunity in the near future; I suspect it will be with Alpha Tauri part way through ‘24, or a full time drive with who knows in ‘25.

[@ericmcmanus5179]

The problem i have with this is that if Redbull doesn't honor their contracted agreement with Ricciardo, then there will be outcry. If they dont find a seat for Lawson there will be outcry. So what is redbull supposed to do here? Its not like redbull owns f1. They can only make decisions for red bull and alpha tauri. This seems to be a lose lose situation.

[@teka5509]

How about they give the seat to the best driver for the job? I am sure they will survive the outcry from fans.

[@pauls5745]

they have to favor Danny Ric over Yuki. Yuki is a Honda driver anyway, while Danny is the smiling darling driver from Oz fans love

[@Pedro285]

This situation is Redbull’s making, a problem they created. There may yet be a Joker here if Checo wins the Mexico GP this year - would he retire early and leave the circus? Maybe Liam is in a prime position here ..

[@defenda1]

I agree, I suspect Sergio is looking for a dignified way to leave the team, and Ricciardo isn't a natural replacement given he's rustier now than when he departed RB in the first place. in some ways Lawson is their only option...

[@mikespearwood3914]

@@defenda1 That's nonsense. Ricciardo is a known commodity, and had one chance to win a race in a dire two years at McLaren, and took it. Lawson has done well after filling in for a few races after underwhelming in F2, where he didn't win a feature race, and thus was fourth in the queue for the AT seat. There's all sorts of hyperbole flying around at the moment.

[@ObiWanIsCool]

Logan Sargeant is the F1 equivelant to Trey Lance. Didn't spend enough time in the junior categories but did just enough to impress the right people and was thrusted to the seat maybe, before he was ready.

[@vince1229]

Tsunoda has had 57 F1 starts. Shouldn't he be performing better than Lawson by now?

[@legoferrari14]

I believe, should the rumours about Lance Stroll stepping down due to lack of motivation come true, Honda will want to move Tsunoda into Aston Martin in advance of the Honda Engine Partnership so Tsunoda can get his foot in the door and gain familiarity with the Silverstone outfit's operations. If that does indeed play out, that would surely clear the way for Lawson come 2025 if not even earlier.

[@michaeldellorso889]

Lack of motivation is just the excuse for lack of talent

[@_knotty3510]

the honda factor here is often forgotten.

[@louis-marlowe]

Liam comprehensively beat Alex Albon when they were both driving Ferrari 488 GT3s in DTM - very different styles of driving, I imagine, but I feel it's another useful yardstick to contextualise Lawson's ability.

[@rishikaul5048]

He is also fighting for the title in Super Formula against Ritomo Miyata in Japan and is ahead of teammate Tomoki Nojiri who is a champion.

[@e2rqey]

Liam Lawson should have won the whole drivers championship in DTM if we are being honest

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@rishikaul5048agree. 2024 hopefully Lawson or Wien Margarete and Alisa Bosconovitch or Jin Kazama could be good option for 2024 Williams. Atm, i belive Williams 2024 lineup could be Wien Margarete and Alisa Bosconovitch.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@e2rqeyLawson and Alisa Bosconovitch for 2024 Williams!

[@413TomaccoRoad]

What's DTM?

[@KuchingKingVideoGamer]

Lawson is willing to wait till 2025. No need to rush He knows Perez is gonna retire in 2024

[@purwantiallan5089]

Setsuna Yuki gonna took over Checo's seat at Red Bull in 2025.

[@defenda1]

Honda won't back a driver racing for a Ford team. And Red Bull won't see enough in Yuki's performances to take him regardless.

[@e2rqey]

Liam Lawson absolutely deserves a drive in F1. I've always considers him to be massively underrated. He should have won DTM as well if we are being honest. Liam Lawson not having a drive in F1 vs certain other drivers (we all know who they are) just shows that being the best outright driver is not enough in F1. There are absolutely drivers in F1 right now who are damaging F1's desired reputation of having a grid made up of the best drivers in the world.

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

Liam is almost certain to get a drive in mid 2024. They'll do everything to improve Daniel, & Checo likely won't get out of this slump. Or maybe it's the opposite, Checo hangs on while Daniel is behind in an AT

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168Perez seemingly facing a big slump unlike Webber.

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

​@@purwantiallan5089 bigger slump than any 2nd driver I could think of

[@hoverpilder1905]

@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 DannnyRic at McLaren was a 2 season long slump

[@KingofWolves3277]

and this is why we should have an 11th or 12th team on the grid so more drivers get a chance to prove their worth

[@emil5851]

It's not just Honda money. If you have a dominant engine supplier, you don't want to have bad relations with them just to have a few more points in the second team

[@HotPlates.]

Perez will retire at the end of the 2024 season. Danny Ric will get moved up for 12 months then retire. Lawson will get the seat in 2026 and Yuki to Aston Martin. That’s my bad guess! 😂

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

It's a fairly reasonable guess, I would even bet this all happens mid 2024

[@purwantiallan5089]

Nope. I certainly think that Kasumi Nakasu to AMR, Alisa Bosconovitch to AT, and Setsuna Yuki to Red Bull.

[@mickoholland1]

Spot on. I’d say that’s exactly what’ll happen.

[@soundscape26]

I also think Perez will retire after 2024, only a superlative season will make him have second thoughts... and a potential open seat elsewhere. I'm not sure if Red Bull will take Danny Ric for just one season but hey, everything is possible.

[@aoife1122]

For Red Bull the day that Yuki Tsunoda becomes Aston Martin's problem can't come soon enough.

[@Willbrse]

ok The Race team, we got it, you want Lawson in Williams.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Put Lawson and Alisa Bosconovitch at Williams 2024 Lineup.

[@sailor7537]

Everyone and their mother wants Lawson at Williams, what are you on about

[@Willbrse]

@@sailor7537 he has a seat for 2025. Logan was rushed into F1 by Williams because of some senseless hype that would be gone rather sooner than later. He should have stayed one more season in F2. Replacing him now would be worse than what Red Bull does to its drivers. Williams owe him one more season, at least keep him in the car till next summer break. Any honest person would want Logan to stay, what are you on about...

[@themarauder6108]

If Perez loses second in the championship, continues to makes errors, crashes the car costing them more money and fails to get into Q3 in the last few races, we'll be seeing Ricciardo back at Red Bull and Lawson at Alpha Tauri next year.

[@halofreak1990]

@AZ-zn9lgI think you're underestimating Danny Ric. The fact that he could deliver a front row time after only a handful of laps in the RB19 shows that he still has what it takes, certainly in comparison to an ailing Pérez that can barely drive consistent even if he doesn't have a bad day. If Pérez doesn't improve his consistency or even loses his current second place in the championship, he's guaranteed to become an ex-Red Bull driver by the end of 2024, if not earlier, to be replaced with either Danny Ric, who, after a full year at AT to properly get back in the groove is the most likely candidate, or Lawson, though the latter is more likely to get an AT seat, imo.

[@v4skunk739]

@AZ-zn9lg He has actually out performed many RB drivers like Albon, Gasly, Ricciardo and Kvyat.

[@v4skunk739]

@@Alonso_The_GOAT Not true.

[@tHebUm18]

Can't imagine why RB for the 2nd year running wouldn't hop on a stand in that did a good job given how de Vries worked out.

[@damienk2372]

I wonder if people have thought about the fact that he will have a seat when they punt Checo and put Danny in there, Lawson will return to the AT seat as per the last month of action.

[@Lewythefly]

People can't think two steps ahead. I'm certain this of exactly what will happen. When Christian Horner was asked about Checo's performance after the Japanese GP he was calm, matter of fact about what happened, wasn't mad, disappointed or any sort of emotion. Kinda like he already knows checo is gone soon

[@fadedexile]

Thank you. This is what i have been thinking. If they're going to fire Sergio they will wait til the end of the season. Then Daniel moves up and Liam slides into AT or whatever they're going to call it.

[@kevinlockhart4393]

I have a feeling Red Bull got burned by De Vries. A young guy with little to no experience comes in for a single weekend and smashes it, they hire him and put him into the car and he's dog shit immediately. Not saying that Lawson is also on that same level of skill as Nyck, but I bet Red Bull and Marko REALLY don't want a potential repeat of that and are making sure Lawson is as ready as he could be.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Chisato Nishikigi and Max Verstappen at Red Bull could be a perfect fit.

[@e2rqey]

They have a far better read on Lawson than they ever did on DeVries. He has been a Red Bull driver for a very long time and they have seen him drive and operate for many years in many series. Including multiple F1 car tests. He is not the next Verstappen, but they know he's still a quite good driver, definitely F1 caliber, and I think they are setting him up to be their 2nd RB driver in the long run.

[@grommile]

@@purwantiallan5089Your comedy routine is getting stale.

[@alotl1kevegas860]

Devries was a Mercedes driver. He probably was meant to spy on RedBull and report back to Mercedes lol

[@Jakerton]

They need to replace Gyat Verstappen with Logan Sargeant 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[@jb-y1487]

People need to stop saying Williams should help him Williams don’t owe redbull anything it’s their problem they should deal with it They have their own junior driver

[@NicotineRosberg]

And let's not forget Liam has a great hairstyle

[@Deanooooo]

My girlfriend and I call that haircut the “Fuck boi 2000” lmao

[@RoberttSmithh]

Reminds me of brad pitt in Fury

[@WRXMAN-ms2mm]

Lawson will get his chance. He is not missing his window, his best before date is a long long way off. He has displayed his race craft with this emergency fill in stint for several races. He appears mature, level headed and to quote a character trait linked to Max, “comfortable with the uncomfortable”. He will be part of the changing of the guard on the grid.

[@EverSoPossiblyPat]

Logan hasn’t had the previous experience that Lawson or Piastri had with them being reserve drivers and having experience in an F1 car before being put in the seat, while Logan was kinda just thrown in. Not excusing him, but he deserves another year.

[@Red_John.]

Stroll dad and AM must change Stroll with Liam if they wanna fight for the 4th place next year.. AM now is a one man show..

[@speed2567]

Red Bull's Treatment of Liam Lawson 00:00 Red Bull's decision to overlook Liam Lawson for a 2024 race seat despite his impressive stand-in performances has sparked outcry. Lawson had seized the chance to impress AlfaTari with his calm demeanor and strong race performances, even outperforming Yuki Sonoda in some races. Ricardo and Sonoda's Selection 01:30 Red Bull's choice to retain Daniel Ricciardo and Yuki Sonoda for 2024 was influenced by various factors, including financial support from Honda and the desire for a blend of youth and experience. Ricciardo's commercial appeal and satisfactory performance in his limited races contributed to his selection. Lawson's Potential Loan Move 03:01 Liam Lawson's impressive performances as a stand-in for Red Bull have raised the possibility of a potential loan move to another team for the 2024 season. Williams has been mentioned as a potential destination, but the situation remains uncertain. Reasons Behind Lawson's Sideline Year 04:29 There are speculations regarding why Liam Lawson might spend a year on the sidelines. One possibility is that he has a contractual guarantee for a 2025 race drive with Red Bull. Alternatively, it could be because Williams may not want a one-year loan deal. Williams' Evaluation of Sergeant 05:53 Williams is evaluating Logan Sargeant's performance and wants to see if he can improve and secure a seat for 2024. Sargeant's struggles, coupled with Lawson's emergence, have created an interesting dynamic in Williams' decision-making process. Alternatives to Sergeant 07:18 While Logan Sargeant is under evaluation, there is a lack of appealing alternatives for Williams. Felipe Drugovich and Michael Schumacher have been mentioned but may not be the ideal choices. Lawson's strong performances make him a potential short-term alternative. Sargeant's Struggles 08:41 Logan Sargeant's struggles, including multiple crashes and underperformance, have put pressure on Williams. His inability to consistently match teammate Alex Albon's performance is a concern for the team's Constructors' Championship position. Lawson's Uncertain Future 10:04 Liam Lawson's future in Formula 1 remains uncertain, with the possibility of spending a year on the sidelines. His career momentum, built through strong stand-in performances, may go to waste if he doesn't secure a race seat for 2024.

[@SongShiyu]

Thanks.❤ Basically TLDR. No real news.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Lawson should partner Wien Margarete at Williams next year! Put Sargeant back into NASCAR TRUCK SERIES!

[@haniotis3421]

He's a gritty racer, and Red Bull should consider him as Max's teammate when Sergio's contract is over.

[@speed2567]

@@haniotis3421 could be possible

[@speed2567]

@@SongShiyu No problem

[@jok3r906]

Red bull doesn't have to do shit that we fans demand from them. Using the term fan extremely loosely

[@likilikiki]

The funny thing to me is that these "fans" blow a gasket when they remove a driver halfway through a season but are now crying because they are commiting to Ricciardo for 2024. If either Tsunoda, Peréz, or Ricciardo under perform next season who knows what will happen. Best thing for Liam is to sight tight because he is 100% first pick if something does happen at Red Bull.

[@TheMrJourneyer]

True. But it doesn’t mean the fans are wrong.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@likilikikiwell they did blow it before.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@TheMrJourneyeri belive AT 2024 driver lineup might be Alisa Bosconovitch and Lawson and not Tsunoda/Ricciardo.

[@likilikiki]

@@purwantiallan5089 What did they blow? or when?

[@BlackFantasy470]

When I take a look at driving performance I see how RB has made one grave mistake. A veteran Daniel Riccardo didn't show any worthwhile results while rookie Liam Lawson steps into the car and gets close to the points in his first complete race weekend and scores on a difficult track like Singapore. It's honestly a no-brainer who I would give the seat to.

[@defenda1]

I think they already agree with you. My theory is that Danny Ric will always stay at AT, Lawson is being made to wait for Perez's seat.

[@alecbrown66]

Liam has proved his worth on no notice, and even got points. If he cannot stay at alpa tauri, then he is a great fit at williams, replacing Sargent. Albon and lawson with their redbull youth history would be a great mix to lift williams up the grid, as they can't rely on 1 driver carrying their hopes.

[@bigbadt]

I really don't want him to go to Williams for some reason...

[@Miragexe]

Lawson has no F1 experience aside from these few races, he'd spent his time at Williams just learning, that's of no value to them.

[@thatguy4noreason]

​@@bigbadtwhy?

[@bigbadt]

@@thatguy4noreason I have a funny feeling it won't work nothing else

[@alotl1kevegas860]

Lawson said he has no interest in Williams.

[@Damann23]

Personal theory: RB is at least somewhat expecting to do a mid season swap for Perez. As it's rumored that Checo's contract states he can't be demoted to Alpha Tauri, that would leave a seat open for Lawson middle of next year. They don't want to loan him out so that he will ne accessible.

[@Runoratsu]

I really really wanna see Mick at Williams. I’m pretty sure the year in the Merc simulator has allowed him to mature and grow, and he DID show signs of good pace in his secons season at Haas.

[@akbolly6415]

Only if Mick has a chance to race in a Merc in the coming races and perform exceptionally well (ie top 6). Otherwise, why not look for new talents for Williams?

[@aaronsorensen5165]

Perez needs to be shown an 8 race plan, in that he needs to be within a certain percentage of Max by race 8 or he swaps with Ricardo and Perez gets the rest of the year to find a different seat. Then Lawson comes in and takes the AT seat. If Ricardo doesn’t get Perez seat, then Tsunoda gets the same deal with having to outscore Ricardo, or Lawson gets his seat.

[@joslyndresen]

I have the idea Tsunoda and Riccardo were already signed for 2024 way before the announcement in Japan. And while Red Bull is known for ripping up contracts in season breaking it before the start of a season is another thing. I think the reserve driver option is best when there is a garentee of a seat in 2025 when Perez will be out. For Williams it is too risky. If Marko has any ideas on a driver swap in 2024 they will loose him and have the struggle to find a driver in season.

[@CT37BN]

RBR's in a dilemma and we all can't assume what's good until we see what Daniel Ricciardo can achieve in his return to AT. It's a fact Liam's drive with AT is such a fresh and positive sight but in the bigger scheme of things RBR has put Daniel in place of Nyck de Vries and has proven his chop until that unfortunate incident at the Dutch GP.

[@purwantiallan5089]

I assume Takina Inoue and Chisato Nishikigi for 2025 AlphaTauri lineup maybe a perfect fit.

[@PomegranateLost]

No mention of Sargeant being an American when F1 is starting to blow up in America and everyone is trying to grab a piece of that lucrative marketing pie is sort of ignoring one of the (if not the) biggest elephant in the room. It's a huge factor to trying to keep Sargeant, cause even if he doesn't do super well, Williams can still try to market the "home talent" at all three US GP's and sell a ton of merch. At the same point, it was mentioned if he keeps crashing he effectively zeroes out his marketing worth, which is true. I genuinely think if he manages to finish the rest of the GP's without crashing and just beats Albon once in quali or the race, Williams will give him another chance.

[@williamshaneblyth]

lawson some of us have followed he outside of F1 and been very impressive he has a big following

[@Tinei1]

The alignment is there now daniel should make way

[@tHebUm18]

Logan is having a tough season, but a reminder that he had a meaningfully better junior career than Lawson and was thrust into F1 a season earlier than he probably should've thanks to a very silly silly season. I hope he gets a 2nd year to show he is better than this season has reflected.

[@michaeldellorso889]

Tough is a major understatement

[@hansfromcongo6322]

Thinking that Williams could give sargeant a contract next year but with a break clause for performance related issues. Then if Sargeant doesn't perform and williams knows they are going to look for a new driver at the end of 2025, they could switch to Lawson if they think he will do a substantially better job. Then that still means Red Bull will get him for presumably the alphatauri seat for 2025.

[@OCRay1]

They had to give the seat back but they definitely will fight to keep him. If the team can’t land Lando or someone like that Liam would get the number 2 seat at the top team with Max. Otherwise they will put him back in the seat with Alpha. They just need to convince him to hang on just a bit more as a reserve. He’s already better than Yuki and current Ric. IMO. Unless what he has shown is a fluke but I don’t think it is.

[@barlmax4095]

it still a gamble though, don’t forget what happened with De Vries, who acclimatized and was really fast in the Williams when he got his call but was extremely unreliable and slow in the Alpha Tauri and that also needs to be taken into account reminds me of the saying “it’s better a known devil than a unknown good” or sum like that

[@LeJimster]

At least with Lawson they have way more data than they ever did with De Vries and after 4 races he appears to be at a similar level as Tsunoda, a driver who has been praised for dragging that tractor into the points or coming close multiple times this year. So it wouldn't be much of a gamble imho. Lawson is going to improve, the car will definitely improve as they move closer to Red Bull. But now we won't get to see that improvement because he's benched.

[@xperience-evolution]

Stroll and Sergant should make place for new drivers. Nothing personal

[@aidanmargarson8910]

to be fair .. at the tire test .. Daniel after a few laps was doing a front-row time .. now with a healed hand if has no after effects then we can assume he would be in that region so Checo, exit stage left Lawson into Boss Honda or whatever?

[@razorsitch9882]

I’d say there’s still a reasonably good chance Red Bull ditches Checo, moves Ricciardo across and brings Lawson in to AT next year

[@omarsalcido8891]

Checo is the key to red bull and ford partnership

[@aloelover6012]

​@@omarsalcido8891Have you not been paying attention? Perez even said that he might leave Red Bull at the end of 2024. He's no "key" to anything, either he'll leave on his own or Red Bull drops him.

[@omarsalcido8891]

@@aloelover6012 you obviously don’t know where the team is going in the next couple of years probably a new comer to the sport and get all your information from horrible journalism like this channel

[@razorsitch9882]

@@omarsalcido8891 Impossible. That deal doesn’t start til 2026 - two years after his contract expires - and they DEFINITELY won’t be extending him.

[@gelmir7322]

Drop Perez (or send him to Williams - he is a paid driver so they might take him) put Ric as replacement and the open AT seat give it to Lawson.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Put Setsuna Yuki at Red Bull then Perez at AT.

[@halofreak1990]

@@purwantiallan5089I heard rumors that Pérez's contract is with Red Bull only, so they can't move him to Alpha Tauri. It's either sacking him, and losing their Mexican sponsor money, or keeping him at RB.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Why should Williams take Lawson.. At best they get a year plus one deal on him. That's not great for a team like Williams that need stability. It would make much more sense to go for someone like Drugovich or any other driver of a similar caliber that can can be with the team for a longer term.

[@matthewturner2000]

The only counter argument to Logan not matching Alex, would be that it if he was, that still wouldn’t put Williams above alpine.

[@glenrobinson10]

The cynic in me says that due to emerging reports, the plan at Red Bull is for Lawson to replace Ricciardo who replaces Perez in early/mid-2024.

[@ahhhwh]

he can be parachuted in for perez in the best case, replace tsunoda if he goes to aston, be reserve for 4 drivers, can replace ricciardo if he doesnt impress at alpha tauri which is not completely unlikely and all the while he can be tested in the simulator and try to win super formula. doesnt sound like sidelined also, rookies have often performed their first few races and subsequently slumped in the grinder of f1

[@JS-te2vj]

Depends who performs worst out of Ricciardo, Tsunoda and Perez, right? If it's Ricciardo, Lawson will replace him at AT, perhaps even mid season. If it's Checo, the better performer of Yuki and Daniel could be moved up mid season, and Lawson may fill the hole. If it's Tsunoda, he may become reserve in 2025, before trying a move to Aston Martin in 2026. I still think Lawson has had luck on his side though, inheriting a car that is much faster than it was at the beginning of 2023 - a time when Yuki was dragging the car up to P10〜11

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

Him challenging Tsunoda already has nothing to do with luck, also better race-craft.

[@seanonraet8327]

​@@quentinhirschfeld9382he only really challenged tsunoda once. His car didn't even start at monza and he was blocked in quali and then murdered by Perez in Singapore

[@jonathanr1788]

De Vries also performed incredibly well during a replacement last year, so, they hired him. Aaaand... he's gone.

[@alpenjon]

There's a big difference between 1 race and a string of races

[@xXSlImReEfErXx]

Daniel was signed through next year before zandvoort and Yuki’s negotiations were ongoing even before Liam had to step in for Daniel. With Lawson still part of the Red Bull stable, it gives them flexibility to have him step up if Perez is sacked mid-season, promoting Daniel to the top team. I doubt they’ll allow two drivers to go to Williams from their driver pool thus not letting Liam go to Williams unless he goes there with an outright release from his Red Bull contract

[@jasonwarnock8992]

The real problem to me is Ricciardo. What has he done recently to earn that seat over Lawson? Also Nick De Vryes probably hurt Lawson. Everyone made a fuss over Nick and look what happened. It's one thing when you don't have the pressure on>

[@paperplane-db8qf]

He won a GP for Mclaren. He beat Tsunoda in his first qualifying and race in Hungary even though he was crashed into on lap 1 and effectively last. What has Tsunoda done? Almost 3 years in Alpha Tauri and instantly loses to Ricciardo who’s not raced in 6 months and has to adapt to a brand new car. Loses to a rookie who’s not had preseason testing or half the season. And you’re questioning Ricciardo lol.

[@user-qc3wi8un3s]

Liam Lawson is a well grounded young man with his proven driving skills without the full program of F1 training his recent performance when given that he only had been in a F1 car 3 times should be enough for any team to look at the up coming potential of a podium win and massive marketing potential that Liam will bring to their brand name ... he would be an asset to any team that has foresight to see that young Liam Lawson given the right car and the top skilled mechanical team plus the opportunity to fine tune his already gifted driving skills his drive and passion will bring success not only for himself but for the right team and brand that offers him a well deserved place and chance to shine on the track and off the track ... All the best Liam New Zealand is behind you !

[@simonbyrne1182]

He'll have a seat when Perez gets sacked early next season and they have a shuffle around of drivers.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Put Setsuna Yuki into Red Bull and Jun Kazama into AlphaTauri.

[@FabledGentleman]

Perez will not get sacked in the last year of his current contract. But he might be willing to agree to a sort of compromise, whatever that might be.

[@lukasz20]

With all the deals going on in the background, we could speculate that Lawson might end up in Williams even for 1 season.

[@teenybopper777]

There is a route that suits all parties, which would be Lawson signing a 2-3 year contract with Williams that contains a buyout clause for something like $20-30m for Red Bull

[@bobz1736]

Williams should kick out Sargent now and get Lawson in the seat for assessment.

[@fevinman7162]

I can appreciate that there are marketing factors that play an important role in who gets the RB and AT seats. However, my opinion is that AT should have Tsunoda and Lawson, and RB should have Verstappen, and then either Perez or Riccardo. Which ever one of them doesn’t get it, oh well. If they can’t find Lawson a seat, he should look elsewhere. Worked for Piastri.

[@acegarcia3719]

I don't like this decision, I haven't seen enough proof that Ricciardo still has it in a Formula 1 car and it should be Lawson's turn to prove that he has what it takes to replace Sergio Perez in 2025.

[@inS41NT]

Kick Stroll out. Get Drugovic in it. Sargeant is out anyways, so there´s that.... Yuki is kind of stalling on pace atm. Don´t know if he can really step up considering how fast Liam got on Pace with him.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Kick Tatsuya Shiba out and get Lars Alexandersson in AMRF1. Then put Ruby Kurosawa at Williams along with Albon!

[@inS41NT]

No Weebs allowed sry.@@purwantiallan5089

[@stefanstenroos6344]

Ricciardo puts pressure on Perez, and Lawson puts pressure on Ricciardo. If all goes well, Red Bull gets exactly what it wants. Perez leaves after 2024, they promote Danny Ric for a few glory years back at RBR, and Lawson takes the AT seat. Everyone is where they are supposed to be and the big winner at the end of the day is Lawson. If both Perez and Danny Ric crack under pressure, he has a top team lined up for him.

[@jcas055]

Red bull needs to understand that they have drivers but are unwilling to use them. Lawson could at the same level as Max. Lawson adapted to the car so fast. But as this is F1 all they want is money. If you don't bring them money, you won't have a seat with redbull

[@purwantiallan5089]

Well yes.

[@valconir1619]

Must love the narrative the media trying to push for Lawson that he MUST have a seat hoping for chaos in drivers market

[@BotsWeekendCovers]

I really believe that Liam should have the seat Danny Rich has. I think Daniel needs to go to a presenters position but obviously RedBull see's something.

[@outlawfps3948]

Calling it now: 2024 will have Perez retiring, Ricciardo getting the step up to Red Bull (marketing and he has a really good relationship with Max), Lawson sitting next to Yuki in whatever AT is getting its name changed to. I think Yuki is staying with Red Bull until Honda moves to AM

[@SilverScarletSpider]

Liam Lawson needs to take Logan, Ocon, or Stroll’s seat

[@coreytrevor3910]

Its the best move overall. RB knows they don't need a stud to pair with Max to be successful so as much as they would like more out of Checo they seem okay with how things are going now. Danny Ric could be as good as Checo but he just hasn't had the time to prove that. Yuki fits where he is now and no need to do anything with him. Liam could be good but I still don't see him being a better on track racer then Checo or Danny. So even tho he has been doing well its still too soon to sign him. RB will be more careful so they don't run in the same issue as de Vries.

[@philtucker1224]

Because there are only 20 seats, they are often planned at least a couple of years ahead. All drivers are under contract so it’s not easy to ignore these conditions. (It would be like someone taking over your role at work without you being told about it, which is fortunately fairly rare these days…)

[@yeah377777]

I sense another Piastri situation incoming 😅😅😅

[@thatg6838]

You’re overlooking an important factor with the idea of a Williams/Lawson match up. Williams is a Mercedes customer and Merc will definitely not want a Red Bull driver to have access to their engines. They would say that Lawson would have to completely resign from RB to get a sniff at the Williams seat.

[@HarisDotParis]

I am honestly stunned by how much weight is put upon RB management's statements, as if they were ever clear about their intentions. If Perez doesn't improve, he will be paid out of his RB contract for next year, and then there's a seat for Dany Ric to go up and Lawson to drive for Alpha Tauri. History shows, F1 contracts are at most worth the paper they are written on. And Perez is sadly about to be the next proof of this.

[@DrAmithBhat]

Tbh, he deserves a seat at AT much more so than somebody who left RB to join a competitor who supplied sub-par engines to RB. I’m sure he had his reasons but someone who didn’t wreck the car in his first race at a wet Zandvoort track, scoring points in an AT and qualifying Max in just his second F1 race and going wheel to wheel with Tsunoda in his third deserves to be there more than a has-been toothpaste model.

[@DrAmithBhat]

*outqualiying Max.

[@brucebasil4164]

Daniel Ricciardo has long lost any desire to excel in F1. He is very happy to uncompetitively drive around a track and collect a paycheck.

[@duncanwalker1347]

The real and Only reason that Logan was given a seat was the introduction of more races in the US and having a US driver was seen as a bonus to try to get US fans to watch. The trouble with this reasoning as logical is it seems is he just isn't a very good F1 Racing driver as good as he was in F2 /3 Yuki has already done what he needed to do when Daniel joined the team and has really upped his game and deserves his seat at Alpha now

[@quentinhirschfeld9382]

Yuki hasn't 'up his game', it's just that Gasly isn't there anymore to expose him. I mean, he has surely polished himself, but he's already strongly challenged by Lawson who has been in the sport for a mere month. When i consider how good Liam was at DTM and that he is fighting for the title in his first season of Super Formula, Yuki should've been sacked.

[@markwheeler4417]

The "What do Dorliton want angle and how much influence do they have at Williams" is conspicuously absent from "The Race" and Autosport coverage of this. Williams must also worry about what Alex Albon will do when his contract is up at the end of 2024 (I think).

[@halofreak1990]

@@markwheeler4417I'd wager Dorilton wants to see Williams move up the grid, and they're doing a pretty decent job of that at the moment, even with rookie Sargeant putting the occasional dent in the budget. As long as they can keep this upward trajectory, I'm pretty sure Albon will stay put, and it's not like he has many options elsewhere, unless Lawrence Stroll finally comes to his senses and stops protecting the abysmal driving of his son.

[@markchen5710]

in my opinion they got into the classic cost sunk fallacy with yuki. Yuki was a BIG investment and took a long time to develop and RB is locked in with him. As for danny ric, he is a no brainer over Liam with his experience - the team needs stability. My opinion is that RB will let perez go when his contract is over, Ric will step into RB and Liam will step into Alpha tauri

[@magatsu82]

Weird Drugovich wasn't mentioned once in the video when it's all fans talk about

[@acelectricalsecurity]

So who do they get rid of, how many times have we seen a driver come in for a few races only to go backwards when they get a drive

[@MsZeeZed]

A year ago the story was Alpha Tauri would be sold. No surprise they retained the two most financially attractive drivers. Lawson is a realistic performance pressure on both Alpha Tauri drivers, so 1+1 deal is the most Red Bull will let Williams have. On the flip side Williams can’t afford for a driver to have less upgrades, just because he breaks them faster than they can be manufactured, that could limit their points score. If the market was more open the threat of Lawson driving for a direct points competitor would make this happen faster. But it’s not and Williams can afford to wait on Sargent’s next few races while they negotiate. There’s likely a cash stream for COTA & Vegas that they’ve budgeted for that needs Sargent in the car. Do well there, this might grow, do badly and it might evaporate. Time is on Williams’ side here.

[@wharris123184]

0:00 you caught me off guard with that intro 😮😂

[@SMACK1978]

Horner couldn’t manage Vettel v Webber. He DAMN sure can’t manage Max v anyone else.

[@Bigheadguyfromsmolmovie]

bro its been 10 years lmao

[@SMACK1978]

@@Bigheadguyfromsmolmovie EXACTLY! Ten years down the road and he’s still getting punked by his lead driver.

[@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168]

​@@SMACK1978 how? There's on "versus" it's been a one sided ass kicking for several years

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@SMACK1978Multi 21 Setsuna chan. Multi 21.

[@purwantiallan5089]

​@@Bigheadguyfromsmolmoviedont forget the Multi 21 incident man.

[@omargraham8591]

Thee best start ive ever heard to a The Race video. Love the passion 😂

[@wifi882.]

Regarding the mentioned alternatives at Williams, Drugovich was mentioned as an "outside contender at best", Schumacher has links to Merc and looks like he's heading off to WEC, and Lawson is probably just gonna stay where he is. So... Why has no-one mentioned Frederik Vesti? He is a Mercedes junior - and we've seen one of those end up at Williams before (George) - running second in F2, behind Theo Pourchaire, and - to me at least - looks promising enough to offer a chance to.

[@Jay-nk6dm]

i think rb also are keeping their cards close to their chest because they know perez isnt performing, and want the flexibility to switch him out if next year the championship is too far apart

[@selder_7]

Williams have made it clear they’re no longer in the market for sharpening someone else’s rookie, so it doesn’t make sense for them to take Lawson. I still think Tsnuoda should’ve gone to Williams instead, he’s just never getting the red bull shot and might as well wait to see what influence Honda have at Williams

[@timgroff6823]

It seems like there’s a lot of quality reserved drivers sitting out Young reserved drivers. Is there a need for another class for these drivers to continue to get experience?

[@myungeunpark5715]

1st line kinda caught me off guard 😂😂😂

[@wimboformula]

For years Scott Mitchell Malm has made videos about how Albon and Gasly were thrown in too soon and didn't receive the support they deserved. Well, Lawson is on the front row in the best team in F1 now. Learning everything there is to know about their cars and getting into the mix. Lawson will be just fine, and he'll have that seat before he knows it. Well prepared and eager to show his stuff.

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

Absolutely right. When they don't come in fast enough the hype in the media is about conspiracies and evil keeping poor people out... and if they're brought in and make mistakes they then go all out on "why do such inexperienced drivers get thrown to the wolves?"

[@soundninja99]

They're preparing to fire Perez during the 2024 season. While it seems like they're snubbing Lawson, it's just the most logical thing to do. Also, why would anyone loan Lawson from RB just to compete with a driver they gave experience to the season after

[@pauls5745]

they could buy his contract out. Checo would take the deal and who knows Sauber will offer him a seat.

[@freddiefreihofer7716]

Lawson will be designated reserve driver at RB next year. This is a big step up, though not yet the Big Enchalada.

[@MichaelEilers]

You make a strong argument about not putting Lawson in AT for next year, and then totally discard that exact same logic by saying Lawson is a lock for 2025? Makes no sense. The case against him on the finances side wouldn’t change. He’ll never be Danny Vic.

[@gilvansouza]

Omg the media always jump to conclusions. Lawson was never really a super star coming up the junior categories. Sure a quick solid guy but not much more than that. Now he has done relatively well filling in for Riccardo, people are up in arms he doesn't have a F1 seat next year. We have seen that before with Nicky de Vries as well and we have seen how that ended. If he had come in and completely wiped the floor with Tsunoda then ok, but that's hardly the case.

[@Tristan_de_Kermadec]

Other drivers deserve a F1 seat more than Lawson. In particular Drugovich and Pourchaire who both flatly beat Lawson in F2 in 2021 and 2022, but also Shwartzman. In parallel, some current F1 drivers should not be there: Stroll of course, Zhou, Sargent...