Why Romania Canceled Its Trains

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Into Europe: Romania is known for its terrible infrastructure, and it is looking to fix it thanks to massive investment from both its government and the European Union.
In the process, Romania has decided to focus entirely on its roads and ignore its trains: the country has been working on an infrastructure megaproject to fix what is arguably Europe's worst road network.
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@vladconstantinminea
@vladconstantinminea Жыл бұрын
A few comments. The Transfagarasan is not a highway, it's a national road. Most of the bad roads in Romania are inside cities and local roads (county and communal roads). The problem with the national roads is not that they are bad, it's that they go through and not around villages and towns. So you have a lot of portions where you should be driving 50kph. The new highways will not be upgrades of existing roads, they are build from scratch and this involves a lot of expenses for figuring out the path they should fallow and also expropriations. Regarding trains, we didn't canceled them, the small routes were sold to private companies. And there have been a lot of investment into the main lines, replacing tracks, electrification, etc. There are portions where trains now reach the 160 kph speed limit, something that was unhered of a few years ago.
@catalinpetrescu8488
@catalinpetrescu8488 Жыл бұрын
Not like most drivers would care about top speeds, they are just for losers in their heads :))) Also, canceled is the right word (as in internet meaning, not literally make them cease to exist). Yes, there are investments, and I am happy about it, but there have been so many budget cuts that make these investments not materialize. The priority right now seems to be mostly the TEN-T network, while other regional rails are mostly neglect. Also, there are a lot of controversial decisions are made from time to time, that affect the rail travel, or people's subjective view of it, the latest of it being the extension to the time required until a repair can take place on the rolling stock. Not to mention the service on board, which is sometimes lacking, compared to other countries.
@catalinpetrescu8488
@catalinpetrescu8488 Жыл бұрын
@Andy Ash I was talking about the RAILroads here :D
@sebastianr1204
@sebastianr1204 Жыл бұрын
It is a highway. You confound highway with dual carriageway (motorway/interstates).
@iurievlasov4869
@iurievlasov4869 Жыл бұрын
@@sebastianr1204 British vs American English. Highway in yanks is motorway in kings. Chillax bro, Vlad is right. And the author of the video is biased, and also called Clarkson's show "Top Gun" :)
@sebastianr1204
@sebastianr1204 Жыл бұрын
@@iurievlasov4869 Nope. You confound it as well. What you call Autostrada in Romanian is Motorway in British and interstate in American. Transfagarasan is a highway.
@roxader4299
@roxader4299 Жыл бұрын
As a Bulgarian who has been to Romania, I would say that our infrastructure is much worse than Romanias.
@RTJHN25
@RTJHN25 Жыл бұрын
you built kilometers of highway more easily and BG might have an upper hand on that, but the rest of the network is indeed in some places worse than RO (e.g. Ruse -> Stara Zagora -> Haskovo->Kardjali)
@adrianeng20
@adrianeng20 9 ай бұрын
You have a good motorway near Sofia, like 4 lanes. We could only dream...
@blu9371
@blu9371 9 ай бұрын
Nu...
@krixpop
@krixpop 7 ай бұрын
Well, everyone I know (almpost) sais that Bulgaria has better roads that us ...
@SebastiansFacts
@SebastiansFacts Жыл бұрын
Very well made. Correct info, btw. And to answer your question, as a Romanian I actually believe it's a huge mistake to leave our railroads in dismay, cause it's already there, ready to be used, unlike our highways.
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 Жыл бұрын
Our roads are built like that with one purpose : to destroy an invading Soviet army.
@lionelfully
@lionelfully Жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes go repair the railroads!!! It's such an obvious move also for EU, and even if the costs quadruple and half of it lands in corrupt hands, it'd still be a positive investment for Romania and Europe as a whole! Every foreigner in Romania can see that! Go Romania! Go Romanian rail!
@yarem4uk.r
@yarem4uk.r Жыл бұрын
@@scratchy996 How is this destruction supposed to work?
@kundbalint4091
@kundbalint4091 Жыл бұрын
@@yarem4uk.r The tanks fall in the potholes and disappear forever.
@oscarosullivan4513
@oscarosullivan4513 Жыл бұрын
Don’t do what we Irish did
@yogun2302
@yogun2302 Жыл бұрын
As a Romanian I really appreciate the focus. However, some topics need to be better explained for context. 1. Investment is also present in Railways, some parts are better than others. Overall, it has been neglected, progress here is at a snail's pace however it is present. 2. Investing in Highways is a must. It should not be done by excluding the railways, true, but the entire system is awfully behind other European countries. 3. Bucharest's A0 ring, in my opinion is poorly presented. As the entire ring is split into 2 main sectors: North with 4 sub-sectors and South with 3 sub-sectors. 2/3 Sub-sectors for the South have a very big chance of being finished late this year, with the 3rd hopefully next year. In the North, the mentioned Chinese company only has 1/4 sub-sectors. The news around that, is true, but it only applies to 1/7 sub-sectors for the entire A0. Also, for the North another sub-sector is behind. The other 2 are contracted. So while it is annoying (and in fairness related to incompetence and corruption) only 2/7 sub-sectors are falling behind. 4. All contracts are signed for the 1st pass across the Carpathian mountains (part of A1). There is optimism there, with sections being finished during 2026-2028, a fair time-frame considering the complexity. 5. A7- That will link Moldova to the capital, is in a good place, and most of the 440km should be finished around 2025-2026, the local sub-contractor(which started work on 10/13 sub-sectors) has a very good reputation for efficiency an quality with other works they have already delivered. 6. The price/km for a Highway is indeed too high, regardless of the complexity of any specific project, this is indeed solely related to a very high corruption within the country. Sources: www.proinfrastructura.ro/proiecteinfrastructura.html#map=7/45.924/25.829 -- for Railways (marked with CF in the legend) and roads 130km.ro/harta.html 130km.ro/autostrazi.html -- only for Highways Both these sources are unrelated to the Government and are ran by infrastructure-passionate people with a long track-record of keeping an eye on things.
@alexverdigris9939
@alexverdigris9939 Жыл бұрын
If "investing in Highways is a must", how come investing in railways isn't?
@yogun2302
@yogun2302 Жыл бұрын
@@alexverdigris9939 they are not mutually exclusive
@mihaihoffman730
@mihaihoffman730 Жыл бұрын
Mate Romania is a joke , like I said the country is beautiful but people living there are hopeless
@mihaivls89
@mihaivls89 Жыл бұрын
@@alexverdigris9939 they are investing in the main european coridors for now. Most importantly linking the port of Constanta with the rest of Europe. for example here is a video of works being done on the Rhine-Danube corridor kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqXJmIB-htaIa9U
@alexverdigris9939
@alexverdigris9939 Жыл бұрын
@@yogun2302 You could swap it around and make an equally true statement: *Investing in railways is a must. It should not be done by excluding the highways, true, but the entire system is awfully behind other European countries.* The two are interchangeable, unless you think they aren't. If they are intercheangeable, then your entire "point 2" becomes moot. If they aren't, then you ought to explain why not.
@motionpictures6629
@motionpictures6629 Жыл бұрын
I travelled to Romania by train last august, and basically every train station and every km of railway was under construction. The trains even become fast in the north-west, where the tracks were already replaced. Romanian train operators were far nicer than Hungarian operators, they even cocked a vegetarian breakfast for me that was not on the menu, and they did not try to extort money from us, unlike their colleagues in Hungary. I was pleasantly surprised by everything except the toilets.
@enadizenideniz
@enadizenideniz Жыл бұрын
as a Hungarian this is sad to read but i can totally imagine it being true :/ I am still really hoping Hungarian infrastructure will get better soon but i think its not going to. On the contrary the countries around Hungary are soon going to overtake us in every matter its very sad to face it.
@motionpictures6629
@motionpictures6629 Жыл бұрын
@@enadizenideniz I loved Hungary in 2005, so much potential, all the beautiful old building, the location in Europe, but last year Hungary was pretty sad. The city center of Budapest had walled off shop windows and money was wasted on prestige project instead of infrastructure. Rebuilding all the old palaces before having good, clean and busy streets is a waste of money. All that potential wasted. The houses in the center of Budapest could be worth much more by now had Hungary developed like Poland. I had some sympathies for Orban before my visit, but he wasted too much potential to act like a good, benevolent president. You guys went from first place in Eastern Europe, when he was elected, to last place in Eastern Europe today. Even Slovakian and Rumanian infrastructure is now better than yours. Hungary shouldn't be closer to Slovakia and Romania in infrastructure and capital terms than to Czechia and Poland.
@me5ng3
@me5ng3 Жыл бұрын
@@enadizenideniz I'm half hungarian, half romanian. Last time I drove with my dad through Hungary we stopped at a gas station on the highway to get some food. I ordered in English because my hungarian is really bad. The ladies at the counter scammed us of one sausage. I shit you not, one sausage. They added three euros more to the bill. Of course my father intervened since he speaks the language and an awkward situation ensued. I don't know much else about Hungary, so I'm not going to draw any conclusions here. Just thought my personal experience with customer service in this particular situation might fit in here.
@marceghel4669
@marceghel4669 Жыл бұрын
By the end of the year we will have electric trains and will be operating where we have electric lines ( mostly between big cities)
@astileanadrian-cristian4811
@astileanadrian-cristian4811 Жыл бұрын
@@me5ng3 Yeah same for me at a shop in Budapest. I am Romanian my future wife is Hungarian from Romania and we were with an American friend. Speaking english. And in a fucking mall in the center of fucking Budapest, the saleswoman CHANGED the price. I mean with a fucking pen. In the E.U. In the 21st century. In Romania she would have been lynched by an angry mob for doing that :))) And my girlfriend threatened to call the police, in Hungarian. We barely manage to get the correct price and only after she dialed the police number. Hungary under Orban has turned into a shithole
@hughmungus5529
@hughmungus5529 Жыл бұрын
Romanian here, I love trains, and I try to use them as much as possible, however i think we badly need both a highway and a railway network, sadly the railway is getting less atention
@gigikontra7023
@gigikontra7023 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully V. Putin gives us more oil to travel with cars if we stab Ukraine in the back. Considering Romania imports 70% of its crude oil consumption, this seems like the path to follow...
@hughmungus5529
@hughmungus5529 Жыл бұрын
@@gigikontra7023 aproape m-ai prins
@gigikontra7023
@gigikontra7023 Жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus5529 mai multe autostrăzi spre slăvirea mai-marelui tovarăș fondator al Uniunii Economice Eurasiatice, tovarășul doctor inginer de renume international, VV. Pootin
@gigikontra7023
@gigikontra7023 Жыл бұрын
@@hughmungus5529 but it's true that Romania (that only corrupt country in the world, there is no corruption anywhere else🤣😂), imports 70% of the crude. Actually it's even worse, it cannot refine enough diesel fuel so it is a net importer of diesel fuel because we sold Petromidia to Kazakhstan and Petrotel refinery to LUKOIL. Good luck guys! You will remember this as the golden age!
@hughmungus5529
@hughmungus5529 Жыл бұрын
@@gigikontra7023 da acum lăsând gluma la o parte stiu ca România produce 70% din necesaru de gaz si petrol
@petkoharry8885
@petkoharry8885 Жыл бұрын
4:55 This is not Latvia, but Lithuania :D
@trashpanda8925
@trashpanda8925 Жыл бұрын
also he is speaking about Via Baltica, which is supposed to connect all three of Baltic states not just Lithuania.
@Raidas22295
@Raidas22295 Жыл бұрын
Oh my ficking god.
@jonasmp6663
@jonasmp6663 Жыл бұрын
very well researched video
@prohacker5086
@prohacker5086 Жыл бұрын
oh god
@breafmate
@breafmate Жыл бұрын
no its estonia
@veskoslavchev4614
@veskoslavchev4614 Жыл бұрын
As a Bulgarian I think the story that you outlined is quite similar. Corruption, expensive highways that seem to kill every week, oversaturation of cities by cars and falling railways. How did you produce the animations? Very insightful.
@selcovoilucian8253
@selcovoilucian8253 Жыл бұрын
As a Romanian I can confirm we are like brothers from different mothers in the good and the bad
@npacebg
@npacebg Жыл бұрын
​@@selcovoilucian8253 I hope our countries make faster progress in the fight against corrupt and incompetent officials... it's about time
@Puch300G
@Puch300G Жыл бұрын
Seems Serbia isn't so bad even with corruption, newly built roads are of higher quality plus there are big investments in railway infrastructure
@goguu7788
@goguu7788 Жыл бұрын
Talk for Bulgaria
@Puch300G
@Puch300G Жыл бұрын
@@andyash2225 no it is not
@VALTERPATRICKOFFICIAL
@VALTERPATRICKOFFICIAL Жыл бұрын
As a Romanian which is pro Rail, I agree that we need Highways, but the Rail is very important as well. It is a mass transit oportunity machine which needs more investing in.
@CalinColdea
@CalinColdea 6 ай бұрын
The only healthy way of building and managing railways is by the private sector as the government is and will be extremely corrupt. Nowhere in the world is railways profitable while managed by the state.
@nekakampeputin1545
@nekakampeputin1545 Жыл бұрын
5:45 totally undocumented statement: "Most of Romania's highways were built during the 70s and 80s" Wrong, wrong, wrong!!!!! *From the total of 994 km, only 113 km (11,4%!!!!!) were built before the year 2000!*
@MrDoomBom
@MrDoomBom Жыл бұрын
As a Ukrainian that was forced to visit Romania a year ago I must say the roads weren't that bad. In fact they were pretty good - I was impressed by the mountain roads there. They do go right through the villages though (which was OK for me as I enjoyed the scenery). IDK if it is even possible to bypass them in the mountains and pave completely new paths in this difficult terrain. I also noticed there were a lot of railroads to cross, but rarely I had to stop there to wait for a train to pass. I guessed they were old and commissioned, some of them maybe even from imperial times.
@PuiDeZmeuYT
@PuiDeZmeuYT 10 ай бұрын
romania has lots of small, dense villages, unlike what i've seen in ukraine. building bypasses isn't possible and most of the times not even needed. trains here don't run that frequent so a railway crossing is uninterrupted for 30-40 minutes at a time. you just got lucky to not see any trains :))
@mariusdrinda1655
@mariusdrinda1655 Жыл бұрын
As a Romanian I can say that I am upset by the state in which our rail network finds itself in. Besides being slow, transportation services are inconsistent. Once I took a train from Timisoara to Cluj-Napoca, a 6 hour journey and the conditions of the train on that long route were worse than a much smaller route from Arad to Timisoara (around one hour). Another "excellent" experience was going form Bucharest to Cluj for 8 hours starting in the morning, without any heating inside the train in the middle of winter. This was also first class 🙄. We need highways, but we mustn't neglect trains. The lack of funding is a complex matter. Corruption and political instability contribute to it. But I need to mention how the country is organized. While Poland had an interest in regionalization, Romania stayed stuck to a centralized system. Poland has 16 voivodeships, whereas Romania has 41 counties, with a smaller population! And Poland prospered because of the change. I suspect that this is due to generational trauma associated with Transylvania. The area was contested in the past, and politicians use the Hungarian minority as a scape goat, to not change the system. Oh no, the Hungarians want autonomy, they "hate" us and want the land back. What will we do with them? 🥺 Regionalization will break the Romanian state! All of this while every county leader has a small voice and cannot properly collect taxes without the accord of Bucharest. Nevertheless take a stand against them. This leads to stagnation, and the spilling of tax-payers money into the pockets of corrupt elites.
@kundbalint4091
@kundbalint4091 Жыл бұрын
And don't forget that in reality the Romanian and Hungarian elites work together in corrupting and stealing from the country. Romanian politicians say, that we hate the Romanians, while Hungarian politicians do nothing, but campaign, how we need "protection" from the system, while in reality, they are the system. All the while they literally lead the country together and generate hate amongst the public.
@al_caponeh6185
@al_caponeh6185 Жыл бұрын
After reading your comment, your situation is not that different from my country. The only difference is that my country has twice the population than Romania, less railways, more mountains and it is much much bigger than Romania, Just to give you a reference it is like going from Bucharest to London. Greetings from Peru.
@btrading4996
@btrading4996 Жыл бұрын
@@al_caponeh6185 yeah but we are in the EU so basically by 2023 a country beeing in the Eu should not be compared to a country from latin america , latin america is seen in europe as corupt and very dangerous
@peppyzacat5179
@peppyzacat5179 Жыл бұрын
This is the most stupid theory I've ever heard and I'm saying this as a Romanian.
@manu.yt25
@manu.yt25 Жыл бұрын
@@btrading4996 You're right, and in Romania the EU is already funding giant rail projects like the renovation of M200 who connects central Romania to Hungary or in coming years the renovation of Arad-Timisoara-Caransebes-Craiova..... and also of Cluj-Oradea-Hungarian border... And they are also funding the purchase of new trains who will be used in national rail lines in coming years.... so yeah even if the videos is right about the current state of the rail infrastructure, I'm very disapointed that it failed to mention all the current romanian rail projects and instead focussed on bashing the fact that highways are being built...
@Deachinio07
@Deachinio07 Жыл бұрын
România is not still one of the poorest countries in Europe, but EU. Is a difference. There are many european countries poorer than România, at least 10.
@Superator69
@Superator69 9 ай бұрын
Romania is actually one of the richest by GDP, and it is booming. It is expected to become one of the top ten richest in Europe by 2040. They are already the richest in all of south eastern Europe by gdp and only Croatia and Greece have a slightly higher gdp per Capita but Romania will soon surpass them in gdp per Capita too. For the first time in history Bucharest has a higher gdp per Capita than Budapest and will surpass Hungary in gdp per Capita in the next 4-5 years.
@WEMBLEYNE
@WEMBLEYNE 9 ай бұрын
Romania it's a hot mess.
@Superator69
@Superator69 9 ай бұрын
@@WEMBLEYNE No the UK, France, Germany, and the other Western European countries are a hot mess full of refugees from Africa and the Middle East that stab people, set cities on fire, do suicide bombings, and grape women. They have lost their countries, in certain parts if Paris women can't walk alone without a male chaperone because the refugees there made Sharia law like in Afghanistan! At least Romania is still 99% Romanian and Christian and they fly their flag everywhere unlike in Western European countries, so they clearly still have their pride. Only place I've seen as many flags everywhere is in America so Romanians are very patriotic.
@robiagacitei5487
@robiagacitei5487 8 ай бұрын
@@WEMBLEYNE by gdp per capita yes, by nominal GDP its among the richest.
@fietsenOveral4650
@fietsenOveral4650 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame there isn't a more balanced approach here - it would entail a fraction of the cost, raw materials, and environmental damage to revitalize the rail infrastructure. A basic road system is necessary, but involvement of EU funds should remediate such an ineffective plan based on zealous adherence to a dated planning model.
@catalinpetrescu8488
@catalinpetrescu8488 Жыл бұрын
Yea, it will take some time to finally get into 21st century.
@manu.yt25
@manu.yt25 Жыл бұрын
They are already funding giant rail renovation projects in Romania like M200 Curtici-Simeria-Brasov or Hungarian border-Oradea-Cluj or Arad-Timisoara-Caransebes then Carensebes-Craiova, and those are already EU funded giant projects, for M200 you can already see some project with most sections being at 80% completion so far. Also those are not just simple "renovations", they are actually rebuilding the whole infrastructure, in some places with new path and smoother curves, new bridges, new tunnels, those are really giant projects compared to what Romania got in the recent past... But for the rest yeah there's still a lot to be done.
@fietsenOveral4650
@fietsenOveral4650 Жыл бұрын
@@manu.yt25 thanks for the info, good to hear there is progress on this front. Didn't have time to research beyond this video.
@Distress.
@Distress. Жыл бұрын
It's important that this video realize that passenger rail only makes sense in certain densities.
@ilvibos3512
@ilvibos3512 Жыл бұрын
@@Distress. and those distances are are ideal for countries like Spain France and Germany, all of which are bigger than Romania
@sparenn9070
@sparenn9070 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, but misleading in many ways. 1.TransFagarasan is not a highway. Its a one lane nation road. 2. We didn't ditch trains, after no work on them, now they are rebuild the old rail network back to 160 km/h speed. So in a few years most major cities (on specific routes) will have decent speed. 3. The roads are not that bad, they are actually pretty good, depends on what roads you drive, the frequently used ones are really good, better than Bulgaria or Hungary, as our roads are newer probably 5. About de A0 you are almost completely wrong. Only section 3 (out of 7 sections) of the northern part, 19% of it, was granted to the Chinese, while on the rest of it, they are working now, except on section 1 northen I don't think our government is ditching rail, but we are in a dire need of decent roads that don't cross every single fking village in Romania. We are very far behind in road infrastructure, and I think every country needs a decent, basic, highway infrastructure
@shsssggsshsgsgs7676
@shsssggsshsgsgs7676 Жыл бұрын
I’m a simple man. I see Romania, I click
@InAeternumRomaMater
@InAeternumRomaMater Жыл бұрын
You're a man?🤨
@shsssggsshsgsgs7676
@shsssggsshsgsgs7676 Жыл бұрын
@@InAeternumRomaMater ?
@rotarumarius3831
@rotarumarius3831 Жыл бұрын
9 gag much?😂
@concertosunpalatableopinio2905
@concertosunpalatableopinio2905 Жыл бұрын
@@InAeternumRomaMater least tradfash take of a statue pfp account
@FlorinArjocu
@FlorinArjocu Жыл бұрын
To have some updates, right now there are already lots of highway plots under construction. For instance the one to Moldova has to be built in about 2.5 years and at least the most part, the one build by UMB (Romanian company) will be finished in time, they have already proven capable. If in the past corruption (Bechtel case for instance with the secretised contract) was a major headache, at the moment there is an agreement we need these projects done and earth is moving already at great pace. Actually pretty much every highway is, with little exceptions, moving fast (including the A0 you mentioned, where only one lot of 8.5 km was won by that Chinese company). And new projects appeared meanwhile. Romania's infrastructure will look a lot, lot different in a few years.
@InAeternumRomaMater
@InAeternumRomaMater Жыл бұрын
Yeah but things could've moved much but much better. But those damn corrupt politicians, only if we had the Monarchy still around...
@FlorinArjocu
@FlorinArjocu Жыл бұрын
@@InAeternumRomaMater Nothing we can do about that. I would have said "if only we did no have that communism".
@nicolaramoso3286
@nicolaramoso3286 Жыл бұрын
I laughed when I read about the Betchel scandal, but I'd turned dead serious soon after thinking about the amount of public money that had been wasted only to eventually get just a few kilometres of motorway.
@teodorcuculea4277
@teodorcuculea4277 Жыл бұрын
Romania is about to double it's highway km from about 1000 to 2000 by 2030. Currently almost 600 km are under construction and 350 km to be tendered. It's a shame it took so long and it didn't started like 15 years sooner like this.
@alextomulescu4593
@alextomulescu4593 Ай бұрын
Singura varianta prin care noi chiar sa avem 2000 de km de autostrăzi in 2030 e cu presiuni masive din partea SUA și NATO mai ales. Altfel sa ne amintim ca in 95-96 ni se promitea ca in 3 ani vom circula pe autostrada Ploiești Brașov
@teodorcuculea4277
@teodorcuculea4277 Ай бұрын
​@@alextomulescu4593nu vad ce treabă are SUA sau NATO care n-au în plan să ofere nici un ban. Mai degrabă EU ne-a dat un imbold mai ales că sunt șanse de la următorul exercițiu bugetar 2027+ să nu mai ofere bani pentru rutier ci doar feroviar și altele. Acum sunt 750 de km în execuție și vreo 200 km în licitație. Sunt șanse bune să fie finalizați în 6 ani. Politicienii ne sunt datori pentru inacțiunea lor mai ales în anii 2015-2018 când nu s-a făcut mai nimic.
@robottorture4833
@robottorture4833 Жыл бұрын
I love how your subjects are, so out of the blue. Thanks for the great quality EU content.
@nydydn
@nydydn Жыл бұрын
@Andy Ash nah, it isn't flawed. It doesn't get into much detail and it simplifies some aspects because that's just how you make high quality videos that are watchable and under 10 minutes. Nobody, but a Romanian, wants to watch 5 hours about how corrupt Romania is, and that video would still have some simplifications. His main reasons for the disaster of what Romanian transportation is are spot on, 1. Geography 2. Corruption 3. Also corruption, but from a different point of view. Although I would put geography the 3rd reason, not the top one.
@nydydn
@nydydn Жыл бұрын
@Andy Ash the only reason you can travel faster by car is exactly the lack of investment in railways. Many Romanians learned how to live like a westerner from Dallas tv show in the early 90s. There weren't many trains in that show. I don't care at all what is planned or under construction, and only few naive Romanians really believe everything politicians are lying about. Why isn't cadastre done? Why isn't Dan Șova sleeping in a tent on the highway as he promised to do if it's not done. Of course people prefer cars when even bikes are faster than Romanian trains. Don't believe me? Look up Romanian trains average speed. Hint it's 17kph in 2021. Yeah, sure, there were some minor investments, so "no investments" is indeed an approximation, but having had investments would be a gross exaggeration more akin to a shameless lie, considering that there's people using horses to travel, as they're also faster than trains. Obviously there's some lines that are half decent, but that really is irrelevant when talking about the network as a whole. As about who's the poorest I'm the EU, that's indeed Bulgaria and not Romania, but given how close they are to each other and how far they are to all the other countries (although Hungary seems to do its best to bridge the gap by getting poorer), you can easily consider Bulgaria and Romania equally poor and on the bottom position. Nuff said.
@AITreeBranches
@AITreeBranches Жыл бұрын
​@@andyash2225I was thinking the same. The fact that he said, people don't ride trains because it reminds them of communism blew my mind. I remember the 90s trains, they were literally barns on wheels, dirty, stinky and very slow. Today's trains are very modern and loads of people take the trains.
@AITreeBranches
@AITreeBranches Жыл бұрын
@@andyash2225 Yep, that's what I was saying. And that's not even a fact, trains are packed all the time. People are travaling with the train all the time. I was just saying that he has some absurd information, not sure where he got it from.
@remusavadanei8539
@remusavadanei8539 Жыл бұрын
The truth is that the economy of Romania has changed. In the communist era, there were large industrial hubs that produced large quantities of heavy goods that were transported in bulk and that were ideally suited for the railways. Nowadays there are thousands of smaller units that work on the just-in-time and delivered-to-gate business model with small-sized valuable products that are better suited for truck transportation. That is why the rail system is in disrepair: lack of earnings. Everywhere the freight pays for the network and the passenger service is subsidized by the state as nowhere it covers its costs. But in Romania, the government grants had to cover everything at once from a very small budget and that meant decline. In the last decade, things had shifted and with a healthier economy and sizeable financial help from the EU we can see more and more investment and more care going into the repair of the rail network and of the rolling stock.
@Dan-yz3vd
@Dan-yz3vd Жыл бұрын
Travelled all throughout Romania on train and honestly thought the train services were nice. Better than the service in the UK at least.
@beyond6storm
@beyond6storm Жыл бұрын
The romanian story generally goes like "Y'all did pretty good considering how much of the budget was hijacked".
@gigikontra7023
@gigikontra7023 Жыл бұрын
You are not allowed to say that!!! Please tow the line: Romanians corupt, Romania all bad, until we make it all cheap and take it away from Romanians for penny on the dollar!!! When they will wake up it will be too late(mwahahahaaahh) and we will own everything!! 🤫🙋. So please tow the line and repeat the official script!!
@stefanv9660
@stefanv9660 Жыл бұрын
Nah bruhh.... C'mon, UK is 10x better...
@disfnq
@disfnq 8 ай бұрын
The UK rail system is much more advanced and efficient. Sometimes the UK railway is a headache due to delays, cancellations, and high prices. The Romanian railway system is extensive and covers some incredible mountainous terrain If the tracks were improved and electrified, this train ride could become one of the most scenic in Europe. It's unfortunate that the Romanian government doesn't consider this a priority. The interests of individuals can have a significant impact on an entire nation, causing disruption.
@wraymogg
@wraymogg Жыл бұрын
As a motorcycle rider, I can tell you that "bad Romanian roads" is old news. Most of the roads are good nowadays, the only bad portions are in small cities where the funding goes perhaps in different direction. All the national roads are surprisingly good. I saw more bad roads in Bulgaria, but as a matter of fact they share a similar 'road', they improved immensely their roads network.
@cerebrummaximus3762
@cerebrummaximus3762 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, we Bulgarians have been on the same branch as you guys since the start of time. Same problems with the Ottomans back then, same problems with Schengen, corruption and infrastructure today. Honestly, I don't know why Bulgaria and Romania despite so similar today don't have more open relations to each other. If the two work on the similar problems together, they can probably reach ever so far. Sometimes I wish our people were more like Hungarians and Polish, where they are so close.
@wraymogg
@wraymogg Жыл бұрын
@@cerebrummaximus3762 I totally agree. I always considered Bulgarians same people as Romanians. The only thing different is the language. We have more in common than differences.
@Ziegfried82
@Ziegfried82 10 ай бұрын
I loved my visit to Romania a few years ago. Really the roads were as good or better than what I see in the USA..not sure if that's praise for Romania or condemnation of US infrastructure but there ya go.
@jach99
@jach99 Жыл бұрын
A small correction - most highways were built after the communist era, except for Bucharest-Pitești all of them actually Also, as of late several railways are getting upgraded, and several sectors are worked on and getting electrified. Some of the more important mainline are being upgraded to 4 lines(from Arad to Bucharest I think is one of them)
@kundbalint4091
@kundbalint4091 Жыл бұрын
I think that rail should get a lot more attention. We have so many cases, where there's a drastic difference between car and rail. For example, if you want to travel, from Sighisoara to Targu Mures (both of which have a train station), you can do it by car under 1 hour. If you take the train, it takes 5 to 8 hours and you even have to change trains. There's less than 50 kms between the two cities. If you want to go to Brad from Deva, it takes you 40 minutes by car, but 13 hours by train. Hunedoara, an important tourist destination, doesn't even have train service. This is because the system is full of dead ends. Instead of looking like a web, it's more like blood veins. And don't get me started on the delays, the state of the trains and stations (it feels like time travel) and their speed. I'm not trying to whine or trash the country, like many others do, I'm just saying that there are some real problems here.
@jach99
@jach99 Жыл бұрын
@@kundbalint4091 I 100% agree with you and it's my firm belief that we shouldn't have spent all that money on highways and instead we should have built a very good railway network. I personally mostly take the train on sections of the Cluj to Bucharest line, and that's much better kept than most sectors, so I personally haven't really had that many bad experiences. But I know especially branch lines are pretty bad.
@kundbalint4091
@kundbalint4091 Жыл бұрын
@@jach99 What really bothers me is that recently they have took out a lot of trains from Cluj (like Dacia). We're talking about a city full of university students, from all over Transylvania, and the country. Now we have a much harder time, when we use rail, as we only have half of the options, compared to autumn.
@catalinpetrescu8488
@catalinpetrescu8488 Жыл бұрын
Also Fetești-Cernavodă, now part of A2 Bucharest-Constanța
@manu.yt25
@manu.yt25 Жыл бұрын
The work on the M200 is going very well, a modern entirely rebuilt rail infrastructure with new bridges, tunnels, etc... it took years of efforts but maybe next years you'll be able to go from Arad to Sighisoara on the most modern line in the country... they are currently working on Sighisoara-Brasov too, and they recently funded the work on Cluj-Oradea-Hungarian border and also Arad-Timisoara-Caransebes (after that Caransebes-Craiova).... So yeah the video is very disapointing on the fact that it failed to correctly talk about the ongoing giant rail projects in the country (and rather focused too much on the comparison with highways) but yeah the video is obviously overall pretty right about the poor shape of most of romanian rail infrastructure currently....
@mareka3740
@mareka3740 Жыл бұрын
Also in my country Poland govenments spend far more money on motorways construction than on railways. We have some 4900 km of motorways (a bigger network than in the UK and almost 1200 km more under construction) but many railway projects are delayed. At least the 630 km long Kraków-Warszawa-Gdańsk rail corridor is ready and trains can travel at 200 km/h. In the capital there is also under construction the new Warszawa West station, a project similar to Vienna's Hauptbahnhof, and in Łódź a railway tunnel for the future Warszawa-Poznań/Wrocław high speed line is being built. And people travel by train more often: in 2022 we had 342 million passengers. I hope also in Romania the situation will improve gradually !
@kakiremora2991
@kakiremora2991 Жыл бұрын
The 200 kmph are only between Gdańsk and Warsaw, I believe. Also, procurement on high speed tunnel under Łódź hasn't ended yet. Only the conventional tunnel is being built. EDIT: I checked and there is also 200kmph between Warsaw and Katowice
@gigikontra7023
@gigikontra7023 Жыл бұрын
Poland is soooo corrupt!
@fjuvo
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
The highways were also build first due to the 2012 Euro Football Games. After the highways were built now the country could focus on the trains
@catalindeluxus8545
@catalindeluxus8545 Жыл бұрын
As a Romanian, I love how well you understand and explain the current state and history of railway and road infrastructure, as well as the corruption in the country. My government has no problems building kilometers of highway every year, yet grossly neglects the less expensive to maintain rail network. My dream is of a world-class rail infrastructure in Romania, properly connected to other European cities.
@manu.yt25
@manu.yt25 Жыл бұрын
We're getting there, just look at the renovation of M200 who's going fairly well or the soon to be launched renovation of Arad-Timisoara-Caransebes-Craiova or Oradea-Cluj.... of course there is still a lot of work and many many years to fix the mistakes of the past (not building or maintaining the rail network properly) but overal things are moving in the right direction... maybe next year you will be able to go from Sighisoara to Arad in an entire new completed rail line, fast and with modern comfort.... but yeah I recon there are a lot more to do than that, but the task is just so giant that even with an infinite amount of funding it could still take years to catch up....
@catalindeluxus8545
@catalindeluxus8545 Жыл бұрын
@Andy Ash yes we have made progress, but I have no problem continuing improving the country further
@gigikontra7023
@gigikontra7023 Жыл бұрын
​@Andy Ash please, we need to be "corul bocitoarelor". Așa ne-a învățat mult-prea-slăvitul tovarăș Stalin 🤣
@gigikontra7023
@gigikontra7023 Жыл бұрын
​​@Andy Ash Romania needs to be taken away from Romanians because they are corrupt 🤣. Romanians are much better Channing toilets in the beautiful west! Remember: there is no corruption anywhere else in the world! 🤣🤣😜
@gigikontra7023
@gigikontra7023 Жыл бұрын
@Andy Ash maestre, dacă ai ști cum sunt tratați românii la toate nivelurile în vest, ai rămâne șocat. Mulți nu deschid gura, de teamă să nu zică lumea că n-au făcut nimic.
@cosmindvd
@cosmindvd Жыл бұрын
It was one of Europe poorest countries, now its NOT still, it is not even in top 10, it is not even poorest in the EU, stop spreading stereotypes we are sick of them, further improve documentation next time when you decide to make a video about a country, because you will end up spreading negative and untrue facts helping strengthen the already negative stereotypes.
@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022
@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 Жыл бұрын
1:30 the Danube doesn't separate the distinct regions of Romania. Danube is literally the Romanian-Bulgarian border to the south, not inside Romania. Danube's tributaries forming borders inside Romania? Maybe.
@adriantr.8040
@adriantr.8040 Жыл бұрын
It separates Dobrogea with its vital Black Sea ports.
@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022
@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 Жыл бұрын
@@adriantr.8040 Dobrudja isn't one of the "distinct regions of Romania" he highlighted. It was Transylvania, Moldova and Wallachia. And it separates like 95% of the country from the 5%, not really a major point to discuss imo.
@co7013
@co7013 Жыл бұрын
Sad. Travelling Romania by train has been a wonderful experience. Yes, they are slow.. But they get (got?) you everywhere. And they where affordable to many people that will not be able to own a car.
@eljanrimsa5843
@eljanrimsa5843 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive take. I'm going to visit Romania and Bulgaria along the Danube with train in May. I plan to have plenty of time, and just need trains to bring me to the next town once a day.
@dorianpompa8409
@dorianpompa8409 Жыл бұрын
@@eljanrimsa5843 trains arent that bad, yeah they are slow and from like the 60s but they get the job done. For example about 360km take ~6hr from my experience, the delays were 5min max.
@darkless60
@darkless60 Жыл бұрын
top gun - Jeremy Clarkson must be proud to finally be a pilot like James May
@JanSanono
@JanSanono Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, top gun, my favourite automobile show
@IntoEurope
@IntoEurope Жыл бұрын
I hear Tom Cruise does all the car stunts himself
@Arrato1977
@Arrato1977 Жыл бұрын
As I know some people from Romania, I know these people work hard. This is more like a political and corruption problem, as stated. In Poland in 2023 over 5000 km of fast roads are available, which means that it can be done. I keep my thumbs for the guys.
@corneliusblinovas3347
@corneliusblinovas3347 Жыл бұрын
4:55 it’s Lithuania not Latvia
@Zulikas69
@Zulikas69 Жыл бұрын
at 4:52 you wrote Latvian instead of Lithuania... I know that it is a meme to mix them up at this point, but dude...
@Yassified3425
@Yassified3425 Жыл бұрын
Latvia has also started to increase it's spending on infrastructure, but unlike in Romania the railways are set as the backbone of the whole system. All the railway lines will be upgraded from 120 km/h to 140-160 km/h. In addition the high-speed railway network with speeds of 250 km/h.
@maxbolotas3192
@maxbolotas3192 Жыл бұрын
If you are interested I think making a video, on how systemic corruption led to the Tempi accident in Greece, and how European monitoring failed to enforce institutional and structural reform, would fir with your content and benefit your audience! RIP to all the victims...
@mahae_16
@mahae_16 Жыл бұрын
The railway is not bad, and train travel in Romania is faster than highway travel. We also built some new airports.
@Ziegfried82
@Ziegfried82 10 ай бұрын
The trains are slightly worse than Italy's last time I was there in the 2010s. Serviceable but not great.
@vlad16382
@vlad16382 Жыл бұрын
Hello! You got a lot of things right. I do, however, think it is in order to give a bit of nuance to what you presented. So, in no particular order, here it goes: 1. The railway system didn't decay only because of corruption and the focus on highways. The system itself was built around economic concepts which are no longer relevant (think moving lots of people to do agricultural work or to work in factories which, in the 90s weren't viable anymore). A lot of Romanias heavy industry collapsed alongside the eastern block and the agriculture became less labor intensive. The railway system, as it was, was simply not viable. Corruption / state driven inefficiencies made it worse, but i don't think it was the main problem. Currently, viable routes are being modernized and there is a decent improvement in the investement in new trains. Overall, we are talking billions invested in the railway system. 2. Romania couldn't afford to focus on highways until relatively recently. It is not true that most of the highways currently in exploatation where built a long time ago. In 90s and 00s it made sense for us to improve and upgrade our roads that were not access controlled but that we already had. For most needs, today those roads are not in as poor of a state as you portray them. Most of the potholes exist on rural roads. On the other hand, the safety features of a "national road" are not even close to what a controlled access road (in Romania, there are 3 standards for these types of roads, not just highways) provides. Combined with poor road discipline, this leads to the very high death rate. 3. Regarding the Chinese company debucle. First of all, the contract was never signed and it is still stuck in legal battles. The Ro gov would def prefer to cancel that procedure and start it anew, but a lot of the delay was also caused by the other companies which contested different moments of the procedure. 3. Building highways through the Carpathians is for sure very expensive and part of the reason for which the gov was indecisive about which route to prioritize. That, however, is just one thing which makes Ro highways really expensive. Besides linking Bucharest with the port of Constanta and the cities of Pitesti and Ploiesti (basically, linking Bucharest, the main economic engine to gas / petrol and global trade routes),which was relatively cheap, the highway project had to prioritize the sectors in Transylvania (creating routes to the west). And that is quite expensive as well as Transylvania is mostly hilly terain with really poor soil (as far as building stuff on it is concerned). 4. Romania accelerating the process of building highways is a certainty at this point in time. Currently, there are ~657 km of highways under construction. All of these should be done by 2028-2029 at the latest. There are contracts for another ~600 km in different stages of planification. Most of these will most probably be ready by 2035. Altogether this is a huge improvement over the last 20 years. It took a while to develope a decent market for building big infrastructure projects, but hey.. it happened. 5. The idea that Romania should switch from focusing on highways towards railways anytime soon is not really a thing, tbh. A comprehensive highway system is mandatory for a modern economy. Being a car centric society has no effect on this fact. The problems start when you begin to add endless number of lanes, not when you don't have a highway system at all and you build it. Despite all of the above, I think you did a pretty good job with the video, so thank you! ^^
@kbtred51
@kbtred51 Жыл бұрын
He did say featured in 'Top Gun'
@andr386
@andr386 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video that nobody else is doing. Quality always win. Keep up the good work.
@tortellinifettuccine
@tortellinifettuccine Жыл бұрын
It's not an amazing video at all, it's nearly all misinformation, "one of the poorest countries in the eu" it doesn't even make top 10 poorest, and has the 7th largest gdp in the eu. The issues he brought up are 3d world issues romania hasn't had since 2000, I was expecting to see a video highlighting the actual problems. This video is straight up just a Romanian hate video, with extreme misinformation
@alexandrupatru2892
@alexandrupatru2892 Жыл бұрын
@@tortellinifettuccine There's so much gratuitous misinformation and hate that I think the youtuber might be Romanian himself.
@alexandrupatru2892
@alexandrupatru2892 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, We tend to exaggerate Our problems.
@andr386
@andr386 Жыл бұрын
@@alexandrupatru2892 It makes sense now. Thanks.
@beatrizcascelli
@beatrizcascelli Жыл бұрын
Loving this new video format! Great to see you! =D
@IntoEurope
@IntoEurope Жыл бұрын
And soon with more on location travelling!
@hlebsavitski2166
@hlebsavitski2166 Жыл бұрын
Top Gun
@P--B
@P--B Жыл бұрын
😂
@DjTibyLive
@DjTibyLive Жыл бұрын
Close enough
@gicu_ucenicu
@gicu_ucenicu Жыл бұрын
Just one comment, pottholes and such are virtually non existent, maybe on smaller more local roads, but rarely.. I travel a lot… at least in the region I live in (transilvanya), road quality is very good. I see no difference in quality per say with let’s say, Italy or Austria - if you do not take in account the lack of highways… that’s the big difference. I still don’t get why according to the EU we have the worst roads, cause we don’t. Just take a trip into Hungary and I am sure there are other examples
@michanowak3001
@michanowak3001 Жыл бұрын
Country needs both rails and roads. As someone from Poland that have the same dilemma in 90s I fully understand it. Over 30 years we built 70% of roads that we planed at cost of rail network. We maintained and made small upgrades only at main lines at a cost of closing less used. In previous year passenger train didn't stop in ~60-70 subprovinces ot of ~360. Romania is currently in the same state that needs to build both of them but can only one due to lack of funding. So probably only building one of them to at least 50% will allow for talks of upgrading second one from XIX century into XXI. But this needs to be over party unity that can be in many cases problematic.
@beinurnurla1197
@beinurnurla1197 Жыл бұрын
Poland has the advantage of a better government and the geography which is mostly flat.
@danielstoica9640
@danielstoica9640 Жыл бұрын
Very well made video!
@MrLebada
@MrLebada Жыл бұрын
Romania will soon be the most important nation in Europe regarding transport
@HEMI345S
@HEMI345S Жыл бұрын
And Ukraine will win the war 😂😂😂
@anndreistc
@anndreistc Жыл бұрын
We also have projects for Railway Infrastructure ^^I use the Railway in Romania often and it helps me very much..by getting to the Sea or at the Mountains.
@danutavram831
@danutavram831 Жыл бұрын
We have projects only 😂😂😂 !!
@lonelydogclub
@lonelydogclub Жыл бұрын
@@danutavram831 School projects?
@TudorCrossings
@TudorCrossings Жыл бұрын
Recently, Romania opened a big section of good upgraded railway from Sighisoara to Simeria, two small cities in transylvania, and theres also a good small railway between arad, and the border city of curtici. Also, Romania is building a improved railroad from Simeria to Curtici, and from Sighisoara to Brasov, their doing this to connect budapest to bucharest, as the bucharest-brasov portion is okay
@ViktorHristovvv
@ViktorHristovvv Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@pavelpetrik1022
@pavelpetrik1022 Жыл бұрын
Ive travelled through romania a few times. I would say there are better roads compared to neighboring countries🤔
@BananLord
@BananLord Жыл бұрын
As a Romanian fan of railway transport due to it being more comfortable and headache-free, I really wish the railways would be paid attention to.
@coandageorge1488
@coandageorge1488 Жыл бұрын
Recent am călătorit cu trenul după o perioadă de 15 ani si îți pot spune ca condițiile sau îmbunătățit și timpi de de călătorie deci comparabil cu acum 15 ani da lucrurile sau îmbunătățit cât despre gropi asta nu ei adevărat am călătorit și am lucrat în majoritatea tarilor europene și îți pot spune ca starea drumurilor naționale județene ei mai buna decât în Belgia sau Franța cât despre infrastructura feroviară îți pot spune ca se repara și pasul în care acest lucru se face a crescut semnificativ din 2021 pentru ca România se grăbește sa îndeplinească cerințele pactului gren Dell . Ei adevărat România i lipsește autostrăzile dar acest lucru se întâmplă pt ca de cel mai multe ori corupția încearcă sa fure o parte din fonduri și din fericire pentru ca multe din proiectele sunt pe fonduri europene oficial corupți nu vad niciun beneficiu sa facă eforturi pt construirea de autostrăzi pentru ca nu pot fura acei bani deci exist multă birocrație pentru acest fonduri europene care fac verifica și reverificare greoaie și aduc întârzieri dar cred că în următori 10 ani o sa vedem o schimbare masiva a infrastructurii .
@coandageorge1488
@coandageorge1488 Жыл бұрын
@@adrianenache6794 Deci pe tine te deranjează ca nu am pus diacritice corect 🤣🤣🤣 deci dacă nu am pus Ă Ș Ț etc sunt analfabet dar nu te interesează percepția celorlalți si apropo de călătorit cu tenul o fac ocazional .
@michakudyra
@michakudyra Жыл бұрын
I think Romania has chosen the wrong path by emphasizing road investments at the expense of railways. In recent years, we have done the opposite in Poland and a lot of people have switched to trains because they have become fast, comfortable and widely available. And trains are much cheaper and less polluting than cars.
@lucaudrea170
@lucaudrea170 Жыл бұрын
We didn’t ignore our trains, the tracks are upgraded as we speak, on most important lines
@nekakampeputin1545
@nekakampeputin1545 Жыл бұрын
6:55 Beautiful story, but *90% fake...* *Only 8,6 km from the total of 100,77 km* were tendered to a Chinese company (CCECC)... And fit your "beautiful" story... 75 km are already under construction, with more than 50 km very close to be finalized by the end of this year....
@donvoisko
@donvoisko Жыл бұрын
We didn’t abandoned our railways. Like the Highway project, we also have a railway project for speeds of 160km/h. The longest line will connect Arad (our western “city”) with Constanta (our city port at the Black Sea). But being Romania, this project is also slow. At the time of this comment you can travel by train with 160km/h (with some restrictions) from Curtici to Teius. (Which isn’t very far). And from Bucharest to Constanta. And i believe some routes/trains from Brasov - Bucharest.
@fjuvo
@fjuvo Жыл бұрын
160 km/h is the most basic speed in every other country before any new construction. 250 km/h is the lowest standard for high speed rail. Poland, the Baltics and Czechia are doing that speed. Western Europe goes for 320 km/h Don’t make the same mistake as Poland. They made a mistake of updating the main lines to 200 km/h a few years ago and now they have to go up to 250. Should’ve been 250 or 300 from the start
@florianmeier3186
@florianmeier3186 9 ай бұрын
Brasov to Bucharest is mountain track. To go there 160km/h everywhere would need a base tunnel below the Carpathian Mountains, but the track is rather OK: >100 in the flat part and slower, but smooth in the mountains.
@brb4903
@brb4903 2 ай бұрын
dude, there's a thing called "money"@@fjuvo
@GT86_S5MK
@GT86_S5MK 8 ай бұрын
I don't know about the other parts of the country, but in western Romania (Banat region and western part of Transylvania region) they're focusing on both Highways and Rail network, there's actually a 2billion euro project to rebuild the railway between the city of Arad and Caransebes, including the city of Lugoj and also Timisoara, which is the biggest city in western Romania. All of this while having several projects such as The A9 Highway, between Timisoara and Belgrade or A6 Highway connecting Lugoj with southern Romania, an Expressway between Timisoara and A1 Highway, another Expressway from Arad to Oradea, and many more.
@omarmyia
@omarmyia Жыл бұрын
The biggest development in the last 20 years in this field is the creation of local private champion builders, who are building faster, better and cheaper than the subsidiaries of Western corporations who dominated the highway construction market until recently. I''m referring to UMB Spedition, who is now the biggest construction company in Romania. It's not easy to enable such huge companies to rise when the whole country started from scratch in 1990. We're now on a much better path. We didn't abandon trains, but the network is extremely underfunded right now.
@dorin6027
@dorin6027 Жыл бұрын
Daiar Dumnezo sanatate lu Dorinel Umbrarescu!!!
@pawekasprowicz2543
@pawekasprowicz2543 Жыл бұрын
That's the way had (and still have) place in Poland. After joining the EU in 2004, Poland was investing almost only in road network. And today Poland has one of the best expressways networks in Europe. And it's still in a development. However since a few year there is contiuoslu incresingly investment in railroads network. I suppose there is anidea to create infrastructure like in Germany - with intense roads network, railways network and inland water transportation network.
@Thisuniquehandleseemstoolong30
@Thisuniquehandleseemstoolong30 Жыл бұрын
In Ceausescu's period: Bucharest - Constanta was 1h45 Nowadays it's 3h00 BUT with delay it took actually 4h00 or 4h30...
@pokemonfreaky100
@pokemonfreaky100 Жыл бұрын
I hope they won't forget about their train network. Though when their road network is in such a bad state, I understand why they want to fix that first. Though again, their train network is also not up-to-date. I guess since they cannot spend their money twice, they made the decision to go for roads.
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 Жыл бұрын
There is plenty of money. But even more corruption.
@carcotasu081
@carcotasu081 Жыл бұрын
A lot of work is being done on the railway infrastructure as-well
@catalinpetrescu8488
@catalinpetrescu8488 Жыл бұрын
Corruption. Also, American-style, car-centric mentality that started gaining more and more ground mentally in Romanian's heads. I had countless discussions online with people almost calling me idiot if they had the opportunity-only because I said some cities should get their tram network back, that more bike lanes are needed in cities (especially Bucharest). They see public transit of any kind as something for the poor and think that you need a car to get around everywhere. They even go to supermarkets that are 10 mins drive away, no matter if they spend another 15 to get an available parking lot, and they complain about not having enough highways and bridges and other various car infrastructure. If you talk with these people about alternative transport modes, at one point they straight up call you Marxist (yea, it happened to me). Besides, new development are all car centric, with apartment buildings very close to each other, surrounded only by parking lots. The only form of public transit there is the bus, at best.
@manu.yt25
@manu.yt25 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, they don't forget, even if the video failed to mention the ongoing billions Euro rail work being done in Romania (funded by EU mostly) and the work projects launched now, it's still taking place.... (for the rest yeah the video is pretty right about the current state of most of the romanian rail network, sadly).
@Croz89
@Croz89 Жыл бұрын
In the end, a railway megastructure project may be running before they can walk. In a country with a lot of adverse terrain, building highways with more tolerant gradient and curvature limits is probably easier, and getting international cars and lorries in will give a quicker economic boost than trains. Also, a railway megastructure project is going to be hampered by poor road infrastructure during construction. The old railway network is likely unsuitable for modern passenger and freight transport in its current form, and rail project is likely to involve the creation or realignment of much of the track in order to allow for bigger, faster trains.
@Daniel-iu7ob
@Daniel-iu7ob Жыл бұрын
As a romanian working in Poland i have 95% highway till Romanian Nădlac Border... when i enter in Romania till Bucharest is a real pain with lacking of highways... I hope in near future that will change.
@mariancudalbu6396
@mariancudalbu6396 9 ай бұрын
Very good documentary! Thank you! 🇷🇴👍🏼
@Mladjasmilic
@Mladjasmilic Жыл бұрын
Road - Rail bridge between Vidin and Calafat is single track only - which is waste of money on potentially huge choke point. For example Vidin is close to Zaječar in Serbia, and Zaječar is connected by rail to Bor - huge mining area in Serbia. There is also a plan to revive Paraćin - Zaječar line, and there is high speed line bteween Belgrade to Niš being built (over Paraćin), so there is possible point for connection for high speed rail Italy - Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Romania. So that is missed chance for Romania. Some rail lines in the north go though Ukraine, but they are still CFR lines.
@danylb9224
@danylb9224 Жыл бұрын
Once per year I drive with my EV from Amsterdam to Bucharest (bi-weekly with plane) and I can tell that Romania is putting some effort to build some proper highway roads. I love taking the A1 from Arad until Sibu (it stops when passing Sibu) to see its amazing landscape. Romanians are blessed with such a beautiful country. Building highways are complex (civil) engineering feet, especially in the romanian landscape. Not to mention that indeed contractors asking high prices. Poor procurement is one thing but can't do anything about it if there PSD/PNL overlords forces to accept high prices from their contractor friends (corruption).
@es1364
@es1364 Жыл бұрын
Smart guy,
@danylb9224
@danylb9224 Жыл бұрын
@@es1364 uhmm thank you I guess. Is there still a statement or a question after that comma coming?
@puscas1329
@puscas1329 Ай бұрын
great video 👍🏻
@karl7428
@karl7428 5 ай бұрын
I rode the night train between Bucharest and Chisinau last year. I was in awe that it was even possible for a train ride to be that bumpy
@virgilpetrea-es2lh
@virgilpetrea-es2lh Жыл бұрын
You're putting a spin to this story, probably so that you can cater to a specific audience. The result is then biased and incomplete. Western viewers may bate because they are used to having great road infrastructure and, at least in the US, have observed over investment in it. This is not the case at all in Romania. Historically it has been underinvested in. Specifically the communist regime made it a point to expand capacity of the rail infrastructure (not length, as you incorrectly state, the network was largely complete by WWII) and neglect road infrastructure. The reason was not care for community but it came naturally from the fact that most Romanians could not afford a car, hence traffic was not warranting big investments. So this is not going along the easy to swallow narrative of trains = community, cars = individual against community. As people's income started growing, car ownership grew and roads became congested. On the other hand, rail became less used. This is very similar to what happened in western countries from the 50s to the 70s. Rail lines were closed, highway infrastructure grew. To make the picture more complete: rail investments are happening on the main corridors to increase speed and capacity, and trains are being bought, so it's not the utter neglect that may be inferred from your story. Second, while the highway network has grown at a slow pace over the past 30 years, progress has been made in all areas: financing, procurement, corridor selection. And no, most of the current network was not in place in communist times, in fact the opposite is true. For someone who doesn't know much about Romanian transportation infrastructure, this video may seem to explain a lot, but it actually constructs a false image.
@IntoEurope
@IntoEurope Жыл бұрын
There is this great paper on the subject titled 'Romania’s Railway Development 1950-1989: Changing Priorities for Socialist Construction' which dives into how the Communist government expanded the rail network. Its what I base that claim upon. To summarize that paper, it says that Romania's communist government pushed for the mass adoption of rail, modernized the network and increased passenger and Freight numbers. That is the expansion I refer to. From what I gather from your comment, you mean the opening of new lines, and based on my research I would agree with you that the efforts to open new ones were more limited. Hope this clarifies! Cheers, Hugo
@virgilpetrea-es2lh
@virgilpetrea-es2lh Жыл бұрын
@@IntoEurope the major implication of how the communist regime invested in rail infrastructure (improving capacity by electrification, line-doubling, and rail stock, but essentially no new lines) is that civil engineering suffered a lack of expertise for decades. No new long tunnels were built for more than half a century for instance. This translated into reluctance on taking on big projects (the mountain crossings you mention for instance) even after communism fell. Only in the last few years are we seeing this changing, with the rail corridor from Arad to Brașov getting some major tunnels in construction at the moment, and the highway from Sibiu to Pitești starting work this year on the most difficult parts.
@lIlllIIlIllllII
@lIlllIIlIllllII Жыл бұрын
Can you explain how it is possible that Romania still has better roads than Belgium?
@kundbalint4091
@kundbalint4091 Жыл бұрын
Belgium doesn't exist.
@zizzyballuba4373
@zizzyballuba4373 Жыл бұрын
Belgium weather is much worse for road maintanance, not to mention Belgium is a transit country that means much more trucks per road that are the real killer.
@eldrago19
@eldrago19 9 ай бұрын
Watching this on a sleeper from Bucharest to Vienna. We were just overtaken by a cement truck. On a gravel track.
@standad7541
@standad7541 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for videos about CEE region, there is the most to repair in the region, coming from Czechia, i really appreciate seeing what is up in the region and how it's progressing towards highly developed economies.
@manu.yt25
@manu.yt25 Жыл бұрын
5:45 No, this is wrong, even if the current highways near Bucharest, like Bucharest-Constanta or Bucharest-Pitesti were indeed built in the past, the highways you see on the north and west of the map are recent builds, some from the past decade and some more recent... (by the way you also forgot to draw the small A3 section between Oradea and the hungarian border)... but your statement that "most have been built in the 70 and 80's" is not accurate...
@alexandruunguru4019
@alexandruunguru4019 Жыл бұрын
Buc-Constanta was not built in pre 1989. check it out....
@AllThingsTrainsbyDrTesla
@AllThingsTrainsbyDrTesla Жыл бұрын
and still Greece is even worse than romania in its railway... Sadly just yesterday a tragic crash happened between 2 trains, killing more than 50 people... The worst rail accident in the history of greece, and bad infrastructure and the absence of ETCS that should have been installed decades ago is to blame for this... A very sad day for something that has been predicted that will eventually happened but no one listened....
@RunTravelSleepRepeat
@RunTravelSleepRepeat Жыл бұрын
These are such great videos! What country is this host from? Thanks for the US!
@johnnyi1337
@johnnyi1337 3 ай бұрын
the Transfagarasan was not featured on top gun, it was featured in top gear!
@felineboy1586
@felineboy1586 Жыл бұрын
Boy i love his vids
@vladimanisor1562
@vladimanisor1562 Жыл бұрын
Romanian here! I’ve been looking into this particular problem myself and I must say that your video essay handles it flawlessly. While the motorway infrastructure has barely started to progress, the railway system is nearly neglected. The only main line under modernisation, the M300, is barely halfway finished, and has been so for a very long time, which is such abig fat shame because Romania has one of the densest railway networks in the EU. I strongly believe that it’s not yet late for reforms in transportation but I fear that my country might just end up in the same shameful situation as the USA.
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 8 ай бұрын
Poland has been building a comprehensive network of highways, well underway. Now they want to develop a ca. high-speed rail lines. And actually both are needed.
@jamesbissonette
@jamesbissonette Жыл бұрын
bro tried to sneak in a MINUTE LONG ad inside an 8 minute video
@cgt3704
@cgt3704 Жыл бұрын
There are actually more reasons why trains are not goven attention and it has to come to the fact that some see railway construction as a reminder of comunist years (at least thats what I heard). And also because, like many other countires în the region, people generaly love cars a lot more because its seen as a symbol of wealth and respect. A bad mindset: yes, but its just there. So its gonna take years to change this undeserving image în România.
@dibuz100
@dibuz100 Жыл бұрын
As a romanian, your video is spot on, but honestly the quality of the existing roads became better in the last years and we no longer have the holes that 10 years ago were everywhere. I’d say we have pretty decent road quality now
@audiblegalaxy7633
@audiblegalaxy7633 Жыл бұрын
I agree but I believe that without EU money our government wouldnt care as much about our roads
@bandito4805
@bandito4805 Жыл бұрын
i can agree (as a fellow romanian)
@bibicu19a
@bibicu19a 9 ай бұрын
Roads first because it's good for the economy, I think this is the idea behind it
@alexandrufilip2899
@alexandrufilip2899 Жыл бұрын
Success in reaching 100k subscribers, here's a little help. Nice video! Kudos
@dkaloger5720
@dkaloger5720 Жыл бұрын
Interesting timing considering the Greek train crash .
@mateit1479
@mateit1479 Жыл бұрын
Things started to move real quick last year, especially on A7. The general explanation is that UE requested urgent a freeway between Ukraine, from North at border, or from East, at Iași via Moldova Republic, and Constanta Dock in oreder to transport the cereals. But for the freeway that connect Moldova to Transylvania, it will take a while. Difficult terrain there.
@chairmakerPete
@chairmakerPete 2 ай бұрын
Trains struggle to compete. They're completely inflexible, crazily expensive to operate, tied up with endless rules and regulations, completely at the whim of trades unions and very prone to wild cost overruns on construction projects. For Romania, it's better to build roads and let everyone crack on. A collectivist transport system is a legacy of a period when there was no alternative.
@dumyviorel7485
@dumyviorel7485 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@lionelfully
@lionelfully Жыл бұрын
The very definition of a low-hanging fruit! Go Romanian rail! Europe, send support. It doesn't matter if some of it gets lost in corrupt hands. This is such an obvious, high-reward and low-risk investment! Without potential resistance and lawsuits, without much ecosystem loss, without much greenhouse gass consequences, as opposed to so many other infrastructure projects. If ever there is a vetted, private fund created to tackle this problem, I'd invest, even without guarantees of high return! Let's harvest these low-hanging fruits!
@ettoreyt826
@ettoreyt826 Жыл бұрын
In an age where people think about the environment, maybe trains were a greener solution. However, we are moving towards the use of electric cars, so who knows this project is not such a bad idea.
@FlorinDaniel
@FlorinDaniel Жыл бұрын
Psst, nobody thinks about the environment
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 Жыл бұрын
"In an age where people think about the environment" - what did I miss, when was that age ?
@FlorinDaniel
@FlorinDaniel Жыл бұрын
@@scratchy996 10.000 BC if I remember correctly; those lions in the environment were pretty hard to kill 😂
@jonm3131
@jonm3131 Жыл бұрын
Electric cars are 100× worse than rail infrastructure. Trains must always be priority.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 9 ай бұрын
Interesting video.
@adrijobecq
@adrijobecq Жыл бұрын
Can you make a similar video about Portugal? The government is about to announce a National Railway Project to expand the network and build our first high-speed railways for the next 30 years.
@MrTrickFM
@MrTrickFM Жыл бұрын
For Romanian economy to work, infrastructure is crucial. And not just for the transport itself. *Tourism* also heavily relies on the road (and rail) infrastructure! Romania lags behind most of Europe in terms of foreign tourist arrivals in the country, most of them were just passing by on the way to destinations from other countries. Even Bulgaria managed to outpace Romania by a HUGE margin when it comes to attracting foreign tourists, not even to mention Hungary or Greece... But infrastructure is NOT enough on its own! For large amounts of money to circulate and commissions to be absorbed into the Romanian economy, the country has to be integrated into *long-distance trade routes* linking *Asia* with *Europe* (particularly via Turkey and the Middle East; after the Russia-Ukraine war, another corridor can emerge, i.e. from China via Central Asia towards Central and Western Europe)! *Without being an integral component of transcontinental corridors, Romania will remain a country at Europe's periphery, neglected and avoided by all participants in the major trade networks!!* The *alternative* is to become the *entry point from Asia to Europe* (and by that I also include _maritime trade_ through the new _Istanbul canal_ currently being built, via the existing _Danube-Black Sea canal_ into the _European inland waterway network_ )!!
@thedrunkenrebel
@thedrunkenrebel Жыл бұрын
Let me paijnt you a picture as a romanian student who visited basically every station in the country for the past 6 years. There are 2 goals for the rails, both freight and passenger as i`ve seen. First is to complete the european project of connecting Hungary with the Black Sea, which is mostly done like 70-80%. Through a single high speed corridor of 2 lines. Hungary -> Brasov -> Bucharest -> Constanta. And that`s it. Further high speed rail is a pure fantasy outside that corridor. And by high speed i mean 120 km/h or 160 km/h downhill. Second is to disrupt the rail border crossing activity so much that it becomes unfeasible to transport cargo by rail because this way, border checkpoints can smuggle more by car and can tax more. For real. That`s what many locals from different areas near the Ukrainian, Serbian and Bulgarian border told me. There`s purposefully underdeveloped rail infrastructure to encourage car infrastructure. Some politicians also openly admitted on national news that roads are more important than rail for reasons they made up. Romania is hilly and mountainous area where straight levelled lines of high speed rail is nearly impossible. You can see on maps how the rail network follows the elevation maps and you would see tunnels only where it would be impossible to route around. Rail earthwork is minimal and tunnels are sketchy at best. Hungary for example is a flat stretch of land where building high speed rail requires only some earthwork and it`s basically a straight line in all directions. Rail in Romania is so slow because the rolling stock is primitive. I`m talking old enough to not find it on google. The tracks are in an incredible state of disrepair and it`s a miracle derailments aren`t more common. You can find news about rail bridges in the south collapsing literally minutes after a train passed on them. It`s a matter of how can politicians divert most funds from EU funded projects, and car infrastructure wins because people need to travel where rail doesn`t reach, thus everyone and their dog has a car and it`s so sad. Building a rail corridor is expensive and requires minimal maintenance for decades once it`s done. Highways require gigantic amounts of earthwork and constant maintenance after completion, yielding more profit per km. Romanian rail is the reason the old population still supports the old socialist regime. Old people figured out rail is better than car and they had the chance to see rail infrastructure rot during their lifetimes. Being born in Romania is my primary reason to move in a country where men have more balls than cars.
@scottmarquardt3575
@scottmarquardt3575 Жыл бұрын
I like the Dan Ryan in Chicago. It's a train that goes down the middle of the freeway, the Sears building went up in a year, I'm sure that was cheap build too
@Rizhiy13
@Rizhiy13 Жыл бұрын
Just noticed you use the same set as Money & Macro, neat)
@cinevreodata
@cinevreodata Жыл бұрын
Are you trying to make some kind of point by continuously using those drone shots of an African highway? Were you only getting videos of Nigerian road infrastructure when searching for "highway stock footage"?
@IntoEurope
@IntoEurope Жыл бұрын
Stock libraries have less highway footage than you think. :P
@RaduRadonys
@RaduRadonys Жыл бұрын
@@IntoEurope Showing African footage when talking about Romania looks perfectly fine from a Dutch person, don't worry, we know your ways.
@IntoEurope
@IntoEurope Жыл бұрын
I'm French :)
@RaduRadonys
@RaduRadonys Жыл бұрын
@@IntoEurope Your channel says the Netherlands... But as they say, potayto, potahto ha ha :))
@Leo-Bread
@Leo-Bread Жыл бұрын
You labeled Lithuania as "Latvia" Latvia is to the north of Lithuania 4:56
@e1123581321345589144
@e1123581321345589144 Жыл бұрын
Ehem, work on A0 was already underway since 2020. Sections of it are almost complete. And we also have a few railway upgrades under way as part of the Rhine-Danube corridor. Work has started in 2015, but progress is slow; though some sections are already operational at speed of up to 140 kph. Slower than the most of Europe, but decent. Travel times have already been significantly reduced along the corridor. We also have another railway revitalization project that's already under way: from Cluj to the Hungarian border. The railway in this segment dates all the way back to the time of the Austro-Hungarian empire; it not electrified and speeds are really low, but the plan is to upgrade it to a running speed of 160km/h. Contracts have already been signed for segments of the project.
@hostaline3587
@hostaline3587 Жыл бұрын
Hi, the highways that were built are great. I grew up in a village where the DN1, the main road from Hungary to Bucharest went through. There was horrible truck traffic and many accidents. Since the Highways were built, the village is more safer and the traffic is minimal.
@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146
@gheorghitaalsunculitei9146 Жыл бұрын
5:45 It's deceiving to show this map and say that the communists build most of the highways. Of the 1000km of highway on the map only 150km were build during those times. Communists build DJ and DN type roads which are not highways but they are translated in English as such. On a positive note, look at 130km ro and you will see that they're as many as 670km under construction
@eyesocketplug6989
@eyesocketplug6989 Жыл бұрын
I would love to travel Romanian rails one day, I am somehow convinced it can't be worse than Croatian which I travel frequently. Being late by two or three hours, random stops because engine failure, electricity switching off and on, train somehow regularily hiting a car on crossing. I want to know how bad Romanian railways can get.
@celestindimitriu3675
@celestindimitriu3675 Жыл бұрын
yeah not as bad as that I have to say lol but still pretty shite. We have some new trains but we still have some old shitty ones
@varkonyitibor4409
@varkonyitibor4409 Жыл бұрын
Romanian railways is much worse than Croatian. Trust me I travelled on both.
@celestindimitriu3675
@celestindimitriu3675 Жыл бұрын
@@varkonyitibor4409 so did I and they are about as shit
@tortellinifettuccine
@tortellinifettuccine Жыл бұрын
​@Várkonyi Tibor ah yes, sure you did Hungarian, totally not like you go commenting fake negative things about romania on every video about it. Terminally online.
@cristiii7605
@cristiii7605 Жыл бұрын
Very bad ,even on important lines 45 minute delays are common and i can only imagine the delays on less common lines...
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