Why Rotten Tomatoes scores don't mean what they seem

[@Vox]

Read more on how Rotten Tomatoes works from Vox's Alissa Wilkinson: www.vox.com/culture/2017/8/31/16107948/rotten-tomatoes-explainer-critics-movies-aggregation

[@Zeratul187]

Vox great video , hey can you guys make a explainer video about Japan's snap Election there's new parties popping up making it unpredictable and don't understand who's who

[@EloiPfeiffer1]

Interesting that Alissa says in the article that "Most critics consider Metacritic a better gauge of critical opinion", yet the narrator seems to feel the opposite.

[@MLF4468]

Why should I care?

[@shakesmctremens178]

Yer sayin' it wrong, like it's two separate words: tomato-meter. As a compound word, the strongest emphasis goes on the syllable in front of 'meter' so it rhymes with speedometer: TOE-muh-TAH-muh-ter.

[@Trj113]

Vox awesome video. I think this could also be extended to talk about how news organizations run stories. They want to give you the juicy details and often ignore context/nuisance.

[@TheFairy39]

I watch the movie first and then see what the ratings are. I feel like if I look for other people's opinions then my opinion will be affected

[@jesusviaolguin3495]

U wasted ur money so many times on movies that sucked

[@karmicobsession1636]

Same I go to movies I want to see then read reviews.

[@misseli1]

Yeah I guess I'm easily influenced by other folk's opinions too, and if critics/audiences ratings are really high I might overhype myself and end up disappointed

[@justinhunt4767]

That is smart

[@Riverburke8170]

TheFairy39 agreed

[@No_timezone77]

Don't judge a movie based on a rotten tomato

[@HamedAlgabbani]

Aaron Glisson i wish it was that easy!

[@BarnabyJones07]

Batman vs Superman was terrible. The direction was a mess, dialogue was awful, what a boring plot, too many unexplored subplots. BvS needs to go down as one of the worst movies of all time right next to Suicide Squad.

[@mehgamer467]

Benjamin Alan worst movie of all time? it was bad, but not that bad. You haven't seen any movies if you think that.

[@rojokalawakan]

I think of that too.....im cringing again for that martha scene ugh

[@LostSwiftpaw]

Aaron Glisson Except the emojie movie

[@raduantoniu]

I find the rotten tomatoes score to be more misleading than IMDB.

you need to have your own taste

[@B75-u7c]

@ or metacritic

[@johnmccarthy4134]

@@B75-u7c metacritic is the worst in my opinion.

[@B75-u7c]

@@johnmccarthy4134 It's the best bro. It's got a rational scoring-system who doesnt give a film a full 10/10 just because it's a popular opinion just like RT. It's very rare for a movie to hit over 90 in MC which is a good sign cause hitting a bullseye on a production film should be equally as hard as winning the Ironman traithlon. And on top of that; all the movies I ever liked has atleast got a rating over 65. So MC is easily the best

[@TheReaverOfDarkness]

Pro tip: read reviews for a different movie, and pretend they are reviews for the movie you're going to watch or have watched. You'll start to notice they never had any actual connection to the films they purport to review.

[@mecagoenlaluna]

The problem with all these rating systems is this: Art is not mathematics.

[@allenantony6523]

I totally agree. Art is subjective. This is an idea I have been struggling with. If art is subjective... then does it mean no art can be objectively good or bad ? So depending upon the person who enjoys it anything can be good from that person's perspective even if other people think it is horrible.

[@Bass_Goat53]

Well the aspects of filmmaking most define as ‘objective’ are just many people agreeing on what they want to see in a movie. To most, stuff like a good score, fluid camera movement, and convincing acting are all paramount to a good film. However, there are plenty out there who don’t care about those sorts of things. So yes, all aspects of a film’s quality are technically subjective.

[@MrRdlv]

But consensus is

[@malayagr]

@@MrRdlv You get the point.

[@SaurianStudios1207]

Art is still technically mathematical. You do realize that math is used in every aspect of life?

[@SYTGaming-ue1bx]

They gave Ghostbusters 2016 a higher rating than Forrest Gump.

[@ranelgallardo7031]

Don't forget The Star Wars 2015-2019 Trilogy.

[@anthonykay1580]

*WAIT WHAT*

[@TheStarBot]

It's because more people reviewd it, then a old movie that not Rotten Tomato didn't exist at the time

[@timothyday5187]

SYT94828 Gaming they put Black Panther number 1 on their top 100 best films of all times so that pretty much says it

[@sirtickleshitz]

It's all based on the amount of reviews, however they've been caught manipulating results as well. Captain Marvel, Star Wars, and Dark Fate brought that out pretty well. Even if they try to change rules and delete reviews it still doesn't change that woke trash is that... trash.

[@applepearproducemeatmilk615]

Rotten tomatoes gave Dave Chappell’s Netflix special sticks and stones a 35% when the audience score was 96%. They gave cuties a 90% when the audience score was just 3%. Let that sink in.

[@kanoaikawach]

Rotten Tomatoes didn't give them anything bruv. It's all from critics. That's been explained to you.

[@tom4150]

Critic reviews are usually opposite of average person reviews

[@ghostnote-6]

@@tom4150 The critics have at least usually seen the films they're rating. Can't say the same for the review bombers.

[@tom4150]

@@ghostnote-6 and critics get paid lol

[@sigmamale4147]

@@kanoaikawach yeah and rotten tomatoes spawned a ton of critics after the woke backlash. So it is rotten tomatoes at the end

[@EpicMarioBros]

This is why you need a toothbrush.

[@sebastianlindon8992]

EpicMarioBros #psat

[@striker4312]

S W E E T A N D VOLATILE

[@sodeste6053]

I came here looking for this

[@troybilaver6816]

S Odeste same

[@harleysons8860]

toothbrush,baking soda,mouthwash,danmit tomatoes

[@deachelo]

I want this dude to narrate my death

[@qtaro-7097]

rotten

[@kj-marslander]

@@qtaro-7097 your analysis checks out.

[@thefriendlyaspie7984]

ask Siri to do it. lol

[@omarispowell2949]

Fr he’ll make me sound important and interesting

[@1st_Amendment_Is_My_Right]

“Customer Reviews” are the best. I’ve seen films get a very low Rotten Tomato review, yet get a almost perfect customer review.

[@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou2837]

Kind of depends on whether your tastes align with critics or the everyday person. I'm super picky and need high-level craftsmanship most of the time, and for me the critic score has historically been a more reliable gauge. I also suspect that the audience score is more susceptible to low scores due to cancel culture.

[@him1517]

@@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou2837 1. The name dude, are you one of those kinds of vegans 2. Rotten tomatoes can be right, but audience score will usually be more accurate because they aren’t deliberately looking for things to criticize, also the cancel culture thing usually isn’t true and you can just look at the actual reviews

[@tom4150]

I don't trust user reviews either. Get Out has a high audience rating and that movie is boring

[@IsaacLikesGames]

Tom you thought Get Out was boring? That movie was freaking awesome. To each their own, I guess

[@IsaacLikesGames]

It depends on what you want out of a movie. Critics watch movies from a different perspective than us average joes do. Critics are more focused on the art aspect of films, such as the cinematography, acting, storyline, music score, etc. Whereas when most of us regular people watch a movie, we just want to be entertained. If you’re someone who appreciates the art of films, then listen to the critics. If you’re a simple minded person who is just looking for entertainment, listen to the audiences

[@JamieCant]

Rotten tomatoes is one of the main reasons there’s an epidemic of passable movies in Hollywood right now.

[@ProbablySoon-pv6ee]

Audience score is worse in that regard

[@MrSafer]

rotten tomatoes isnt the worst offender, netflix is when they changed their reviews.....

[@SkiDaBird]

The new one's are horrible...

[@MrRedacto]

I will never stop being mad at Netflix for that. Now I have to check every show/movie on another site like IMDB first to see whether it's good

[@MysteryMii]

MrRedacto How many times do I have to point out that the star system on Netflix wasn’t the average rating that all users gave? It was the algorithm guessing what you were going to rate the film based on what you’ve watched and rated the entire time.

[@MrSafer]

ok so now we cant even see that anymore? why did they get rid of it then?

[@mhuh]

Yes and it was great.

[@Odseparator]

Are "Rotten Tomatoes" name a reference to tomatoes that public throws at actors who made a terrible play?

[@ThruThe9]

smart

[@rvne3959]

ThruThe9 he's a Rick and Morty fan. Of course he's smart.

[@sigzbro]

SHADY3k I hope you meant this ironically.

[@prune_______1986]

90's Rick dis you ask a question that you already knew the answer to?

[@Odseparator]

I asked a question, this is why I use question mark "?".

[@jonathanpalmquist4894]

IMDB is the best. Here's a key to interpret their ratings for movies: 8-10 Guaranteed to be good at the very least, usually great, includes most of the best movies ever. 7-7.9 Usually solid, worth watching, can be great if it's your type of movie 6-6.9 Mixed bag, usually not great, but can be some gems if it's your type of movie 0-5.9 Crap, but can include some cult classics and all the best 'bad' movies *Indian movies are skewed way higher so their ratings are unreliable when comparing with all other movies according to this scale. Also, some classics are highly rated largely because they're classics and don't stand up to our modern conception of what makes a good movie. Of course if a movie has less than 30,000 or so ratings it's also less reliable.

[@NitroIndigo]

What about when lots of people spam one movie with the same rating? (RIP A Dog's Purpose whenever the book was written - 2017)

[@jonathanpalmquist4894]

Nitro Indigo Yeah those exceptions happen sometimes, but it seems like they usually balance out after a while. For example wasn't The Dark Knight at like 9.8 for a while right after the release cause of all the fanboys?

[@mrlajel]

Are Korean /Japanese movies are skewed too? since I saw their IMDB are quite high.

[@RonanAquilius]

i find that 6-7 is a good solid rating for horror films, anything higher than that is ussually overrated imo

[@jonathanpalmquist4894]

enas .kusuma For the ones I've seen the ratings were justified IMO. Check out Oldboy (the original) or Memories of Murders. If you're talking about the older ones I'd say any gripe with their rating has more to do with their age than their nationality.

[@DavidVsNorm]

Ricegum took the L

[@AntMan351]

DavidVsNorm so random

[@wjsnactivist6141]

if he could pronounce it

[@ultimetacooler]

And the D

[@jordibear]

You mean the R? ;)

[@graypaint]

what does this irrelevant comment have to deal with Vox or this video

[@drennyvision6141]

IMDB'S viewer comments are the best! The comments are always on point and reliable.

[@OurFoundingLiars]

Rotten tomatoes is a distraction from the GMO grown tomatoes poor health rating.. When the files leaked from the EPA they conducted this website to distract us from it and make It look like they were talking about movies. Oh I also have no idea what I'm talking about. Keep asking questions

[@springgreengoober]

Tomatoes are only red because they put PIGS BLOOD IN IT! IT'S NOT VEGETARIAN SAFF!!!!! Lol idk

[@marvinalexis9628]

Damn the commies.

[@KittySYT]

Also, tomato is a fruit, but them grocers treat it as a veggie, hence its place in the veggie section. Hey oh, hey ho,Racism gotta go! 🌚

[@egghead7485]

Your channel... I think I love it

[@RafidW9]

I trust IMDB because most of the time after watch a movie, when I read about it online, their score seems to be more reasonable.

[@fairytaleoverworlds7795]

Just look at both site's top 250 Lists. IMDb is miles better simply because it uses everyone's 1-10 quality ratings, instead of simply good/bad which don't go into _how_ good or _how_ bad, and thus brilliant movies never ever make its Top 300 movies but consistently-rated 7/10 movies do.

[@TheMaloo424]

if you look at the data its the other way around I think the average score on Imdb is 7, which says something

[@chrisstuckmannandhisblackf5927]

Mujtaba Ibrahim people are rating movies either a 1/10 or a 10/10 before the movie even comes out. I don’t trust it at all

[@theriderhimself3]

Mujtaba Ibrahim I absolutely agree, IMDB is what I trust most when it comes to the audience in the movie industry.

[@dadanardi5541]

IMDB "usually" plagued by fanboys who overrated their fave film so when the movie came out it's usually have high score but dwindle overtime after more people watched it.

[@drunkenmasterii3250]

What's the problem, the idea is fresh mean decent so take a chance. Rotten pretty much mean stay away. It's just for people who want to choose a movie and eliminate the worst at first glance.

[@dojix96]

Yeah I'm really not sure what the problem is that this video's trying to bring up. Like, sure, Alien: Covenant and Moonlight both got the Fresh label, but literally everyone pays more attention to the percentage. And in the Dunkirk and Get Out example, I mean, if there's less agreement among critics, then shouldn't that mean it's something you have more of a chance of disliking than a movie with full agreement of its quality?

[@drunkenmasterii3250]

MrLucarioisnumber1 problem why people don't go see their movies is because cinema is becoming restauration, food is so expensive + the price of the ticket. You become really selective about the movies you want to go see. Also like they say in the video there's much more movies made today so rotten tomatoes give you the opportunity to say I won't take a chance on this movie because the overall consensus is that it's bad. When they make the example of Alien vs Moonlight it doesn't matter which one is better, the fact that it's fresh only mean it's alright take a chance on it there's a good chance you might like it. It's not about which one is better since they don't appeal to the same clientele anyway, when people look for a movie they watch the trailer, oh that seem interesting oh it's fresh let's take a chance on it or oh it's rotten I don't know I might choose something else since I don't want to waste my money. Even if it get's a 98% approval it doesn't mean you'll enjoy the movie anyway. People who really enjoy cinema and are looking for the gems, special creative movies, are become really rare, because the cinema industries is a joke with the expensive prices. That's why great movies don't do too good at the box office.

[@seigeengine]

The problem is that a good portion of the movies I like are rated rotten, and plenty I dislike are rated fresh or certified fresh. I don't even mean movies that aren't to my tastes, I mean movies I think were broadly bad. You shouldn't use any rating system as anything more than one data point in a web of information.

[@johndaly2816]

Drunken Master II Batman v Superman is rotten. But i like it, so did many other people. So their system is flawed.

[@dojix96]

I feel like that's not really the intended usage though. The percentage meter is almost like just a percentage of how many people liked the movie. Literally it says nothing about the quality or content, all it says is that a percentage people liked or didn't like it. The only way this kind of system can work is if you interpret it like a probability reading that you'll also like the movie. I mean, it's never going to be a certainty, obviously, but I don't think that's what they ever intended it to be. It's not a measure of a movie's quality, even if it's aggregating critical rating data, it's purely talking about how many people enjoyed it.

[@lupinearsenalALT]

Rotten Tomatoes skews ratings. 👎

[@joelbohan4231]

I so agree they aren't true and only love movies from 2016 which I think is stupid

[@thejay8963]

It seems like they slap a certification on any kids movie with... restroom humor, but if something is legitimately funny without a fart joke every 2 minutes, it gets a rotten score! Example: The normal people who have watched Ernest movies (including me) absolutely love them, but the critics hate it. I don’t know why? And that unfortunately makes people skip on it, because the select few critics know more about a movie than the many thousands of people who have watched it and laughed over it their entire lives.

[@cypherusuh]

it's based off critics. and critics can be bought

[@alanberent4428]

@@cypherusuh I think you are exactly right. Rotten Tomatoes gave Widows, Bumblebee and the new Spiderman cartoon a rating in the 90's! I thought all of them stunk. I just saw the new Spiderman and I want to give you a warning...if you are even Close to being epileptic, don't see this movie. Flashing lights, 4 screens at a time, Spiderman can turn invisible (since when?), sticks to everything, (except his tennis shoes), fight after fight after fight . .. I felt sorry for parents who brought their little kids to this movie. I almost got a headache, yawned, could not wait for the ending, but felt obligated to stay. A sad send off to Stan Lee. IMHO.

[@johnappice4619]

Man are you like a profit or something because you definitely predicted the future

[@solaile]

The audience score is more accurate imo

[@ryynerwicked2762]

Ur rite It is ur getting opinions from all over from different ppl in different life styles an yet they can still come to the same general conclusion about a movie that says alot ... Most time the rotten tomatoes will only have like 17 to 20 reviews from "professionals" an give a horribly slow score bt yet u look at the audience reviews there will b like well over 40k of them an the score will be significantly higher so which one is more reliable something reviewed 20 times or something reviewed 20k or more times scientifically it's the one that's been put to the test more by more then a couple source an a multitude of different scenarios

[@HugoSoup57]

satougaile If you seriously think that, you probably have an awful taste in movies.

[@yulhenderson2267]

That’s not entirely true. Look at the audience score from rise of skywalker

[@ProbablySoon-pv6ee]

Nah

[@TPaternite]

IMDb is by far the best movie rating system. Go ahead and compare IMDb's top 250 with Rotten Tomatoes top 100. You'll see that RT's list doesn't make any sense whatsoever. This is because RT translates every "critic" rating as like or dislike as opposed to IMDb's 1-10 rating. Like the video says, this is a very vague representation and ends up with inaccurate scores. IMDb's ratings are higher at first because the people most hyped about the film see it sooner. It doesn't take long for the score to stabilize. I'd rather have my rating based on >1,000,000 detailed scores vs 3,000 vague ones where the score detail is lost.

[@nikkilee3840]

Also fan ratings on IMDb can change gradually over time whereas critic reviews basically all come out the moment the movie comes out. That's why some films are rated rotten in their times, but then are later seen as classics, and vice versa.

[@kostajovanovic3711]

Imbd top 250 is the bottom of the barrel

[@YellowJelly13]

IMDB uses the best model, but it has the worst userbase. There are alternatives with a better userbase though. Way better than Rotten Tomatoes or any other alternative.

[@rafaeltavarez4025]

I think the end of this video really wraps things up nicely. There is no perfect system. For IMDB’s 1-10 system, a person may have a completely different expectation for what a movie that is say a 6 compared to someone else. It’s completely subjective

[@CorbelanIV]

RIP IMDb forums. Sigh.

[@radix4801]

"Why Rotten Tomatoes scores don't mean what we think you think they mean"

[@randomhandle6]

Radix lol, so accurate!

[@soufian2733]

I can't believe so few people know how the system works

[@SARYM911]

It's hilarious how some people get mad at Rotten tomatoes specifically for certain ratings..They can disagree with the system but some treat it like a single critic

[@SubtleHawk]

Yeah I already knew all of this before watching.

[@krombopulos_michael]

I don't believe they don't. I think everyone already does know this.

[@alveolate]

little people... is that a midget joke?

[@japzone]

To be fair, RT makes the Average Rating very hard to spot on Desktop, and doesn't even show it on mobile. If they'd just make it easier to find and see then it'd probably help a lot.

[@no6060]

Sponsored by The Emoji Movie.

[@hi-cz8zd]

George Saville how

[@evawoodcock6392]

@@hi-cz8zd bc they got a 10% rotten tomatoe score

[@evawoodcock6392]

😂 I was looking for this

[@evawoodcock6392]

@@hi-cz8zd lol

[@joaquinm9148]

@@evawoodcock6392 actually they got 7%

[@godzilla902jss]

I'm here after I realized RT gave Interstellar 72% while Gravity got a 96%. Just angered me !

[@TheMcKenzieHaus]

I like the movie gravity, but a 72% for interstellar is blasphemous

[@jothishprabu8]

Gravity isn't a high concept movie like Interstellar. Maybe that's why...

stop complaining it’s a good score

[@frogery]

that seems about right. interstellar is a good spectacle movie, while gravity is masterfully written and directed. the latter deserves a higher critic rating.

[@goat6354]

@@frogery I think its the other way around

[@user-fy3oy4vo9m]

I do appreciate how Metacritic has numbered scores beside each reviewer instead of just a tomato or a splat.

[@lancerfan12]

LOL. I just look up the IMDB score. If its 7.5+ its worth watching, 8.5+ I buy a ticket to watch it.

[@TRUMP-lw1rq]

Gursimran Sethi 8.5+ is way too high a standard man. With that criterion, you wouldn’t have watched any of the Harry Potter movies.

[@AmrXcellent]

I use IMDB. My formula

[@TRUMP-lw1rq]

Amr Momtaz bruh there ain’t no 10s in IMDB

[@AmrXcellent]

Dylan Gill yeah 10 is just for me (my top 10 fav movies)

[@sherylsmallwood-valdivia5375]

My dad does this: if it's anything less then 7 he doesn't even bother with it. 7 to 7.5, he bases if he wants to see it on the summary of the plot. 7.5 to 8, he suggests it to us. Anything over an 8 he will eventually want to see.

[@frogery]

i like rotten tomatoes. if the movie is rated fresh you can at least be sure that it's worth looking into individual reviews to see if it's something you would like.

[@JenCruz.]

Not always the case. Great films have gotten rotten status.

[@krombopulos_michael]

Maria Cruz I can't think of a single rotten film that I've seen that was "great". Maybe there are some that have cult followings but nothing that is widely considered to be good.

[@VR36030]

Krombopulos Michael Taken is considered good( The first one. The second was mediocre and the third was bad).

[@jackbinger4821]

Krombopulos Michael the only time i don't trust rotten tomatoes is when it comes to comedies. There have been several great comedies that have gotten "rotten" statuses

[@VR36030]

JackBinger Rotten tomatoes is often biased toward emotional poignancy so generally, the people who review these comedies there see them as flippant and fleeting and therefore give them bad ratings, even when they could be funny because they value that less.

[@johnmccarthy4134]

They gave the 2019 Aladdin a higher rating then the 1995 Jumanji.

[@D_LGND]

2% rotten than a cash grabbing remake Nothing wrong here

[@anormalguy9320]

Between Rotten Tomatoes, IMDB and Metacritic, it all depends on your tastes and how you analyse movie. If you're just an average person who just watch movies for fun and stuff like that, go with IMDB. If you're looking for people who actually know how to analyse well (for the most part), go with Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic. Both websites are very similar but, at the same time, very different. I already have seen a lot of people here who say that IMDB is better than RT. People, this is all just opinions from critics and audiences. Of course, most people would prefer IMDB because they can mostly agree with their opinions. But you guys know that RT and Metacritic are not websites just for critics, right (RT has the Audience Score and Metacritic has the User Score). Critics and Audiences don't always agree with each other. That's because Audiences don't know how to analyse a movie well. They mostly don't care if the acting, the visuals, the editing, the action scenes, (in action films) or if even the characters are crap as long as there's a plot twist with an emotional music in the background. IMDB user reviews, for example, don't always get what a movie is trying to say and give it a 1/10 and call it Overrated (War for the planet of the Apes is an example). Critics talk about the entire film and explain why it works/doesn't work for them. A lot of people don't get them and even say "F*ck you, critics" for not liking a movie they like. Critics don't exist to judge a opinion, they're here to share their opinion. Critics are not perfect people and i even dissagree with them sometimes but i respect them for what they do.

[@lebronjohnson6735]

A normal Guy it is not so much about professional critics or not. The Problem is that the system in itself is not accurate as you can see when you look at the top 100 list of RT. 'Get out' currently on the third place? Get outta here! You still need to find a professional movie critic that has this movie even in his top 30!

[@raffihakim278]

This is where things go wrong. People Only Want to watch, not to Analyse Like a GOD Reviewing the Film. Film is for taking people Easy. The reason people like IMBD Is because they thinks that they Analyse What Fans Really like. Unlike RT where they applaud The Last Jedi for GREAT Writing which we didn't need, considering i'll Predict people wants Badass Lightsaber fight ? Idk.

[@rvndre8601]

Disagree, because if after you analyse thoroughly and conclude that it is a good film (e.g. good transitions, dialogue or whatever), then surely a person not analysing thoroughly and just sort of sitting through it would also think it a good film. Because the more intricate parts of a film that needs analysing to see it IS what makes a good film, isn't it? Even if the average watcher might not realise it, it still has that effect on them.

[@meapppxd2304]

Wrong

[@makamatin9257]

Critics are not the basis of a good movie. And Rotten Tomatoes lost all credibility at this point because they sell out for money.

[@IFGchannel931]

For years I've noticed correlations and exceptions regarding my tastes Vs. the user ratings on IMDB. I came to understand a couple of things and now I usually know what to expect based on the combination of movie genre, synopsis and user ratings.

[@thebeingdestroyerofworlds8690]

Where are the imdb users at?

[@minartson]

IMBD let's users review the movie before the movie is even out and a lot of movies already have thousands to tens of thousands of votes before the movies is even out. BvS got rated to 9/10 before the movie even came out.

[@kaitlynm8093]

*Thank you because I never understood the rotten tomatoes rating!!!*

[@Kolapot]

This video show really what the reviews, break down and concensus of the average really is. Understanding the complexity of those RT scores and what it is or what not. Worth watching.

[@theknight9292]

Gladiator-77% Interstellar-71% Forest gump-72% And... Ghostbusters 2016-74%

[@waterpower5943]

Cuties - 88%

[@firenationfiles2063]

If it looks good, I watch it. Who cares about ratings? … _2 hours later_ … I regret everything. There goes 2 hours of my life…

[@dmc1943]

i only use imdb if it's a movie i haven't heard anything about and if it's above a 7 ill watch it

[@Mr_Creasy_]

Thanks for this Vox! I go to the movies pretty often and I probably rely on these ratings a little too much. Is the rating system the same for flixster users? Users of the website flixster can review movies as well and there is a seperate rating system just for them. I often take the average of the critics score and the users score to determine how good a movie is.

[@LoganE]

M

[@Vape_Master69]

Cool bot

[@enterthefollowing]

Mr. Creasy wow. You're such a tool.

[@Mr_Creasy_]

Vincent Champloo lol how so?

[@randomhandle6]

Mr. Creasy keep using rotten tomatoes. It's still pretty good. It gives you a sense of what people thought of the movie. If you want to dig deeper just click on the reviews to read what they say, and/or look at other sites to confirm what you found on rotten tomatoes. Also, knowing which actors, directors, cinematographers you like can also lead you towards movies you might enjoy.

[@MarqueBenion]

3:45 you missed a "t" in Seattle Times

[@johnnyfrankenstein0123]

seat times

[@etchedinstone7562]

I can think of two films off the top of my head that were initially certified "Fresh" and then lost their certification as more reviews came in. Those two were "mother!" and "Vox Lux".

[@18wolfspirit]

365+ films with 100% scores 36+ with 0% scores 436+ with scores from 60% to 99%

[@bargh70]

I would call film critics sell outs but I can't think of a time when this type of "journalism" ever was what it pretends to be. It's ALL about politics and promotion. They get all their power out of the fact that there's way too much movies out there and people need some direction. That's it. That's all they have.

[@ericc5749]

Rotten tomatoes gets it right sometimes but rarely. They gave "The joker" a 68% rating and everyone knows that movie is one of the best movies they've ever seen.

[@andrewhanes8903]

I will say ‘joker’ is an interesting case. Not necessarily the movie itself (though yes, thought provoking and great) but because metacritic and RT gave it low scores but an overall star rating was 4 out of 4.

[@dmc1943]

joker wasn't that good.

[@ericc5749]

@@dmc1943 it was a masterpiece

[@dmc1943]

@@ericc5749 it’s a good film, definitely not a masterpiece. It’s just a rip off of taxi driver and king of comedy.

[@omjadhav9128]

Exactly , and trash movie's like captain Marvel , thor Ragnarok , star war has more scores than it 😭😭😡😡😡

[@grumpysorc3744]

Black Panther is #1 movie ever according to the top 100 Rotten Tomatoes... something is wrong.

[@HugoSoup57]

Grumpy Sorc It’s not rated #1 on Rotten Tomatoes, it has a 8.3 average rating, which I think is more accurate

[@dmc1943]

@@HugoSoup57 it used to be first and it’s second now in their top 100 which makes no sense at all

[@BillyCobbOfficial]

Saw (2004) has a 49%... Do I need to say more?

[@nikomiller]

Billy Cobb yes. I can't really see your point. Did you not watch the video and still don't how how it works? Do you really think thay Saw is a good movie that deserves approval of 100% of the critics? In this case, try watching some more movies that are actually good.

[@fivesix3868]

Billy Cobb That's very different from my rating of the movie "Saw", and the movie "Get Out" was not great to me, either, but everyone has (at least slightly) different preferences. That is why I only sometimes base movie viewership by ratings of other people

[@mainfrym]

Horror movies almost always score low with critics, unless it becomes a cult classic, such as The Thing, then it will get revisited years later and given good reviews.

[@alejandroburgos9029]

Saw was a masterpiece that may not deserve 100 but still deserves a better score

[@goodial]

Outboard's Shack well the average rating is at 7.1 so it's right there where you want the movie to be ...

[@grantlauzon5237]

Just to throw it out there... a 6/10 is what counts as a positive review. BvS had a rating of 27% but an average score of 4.9/10. RT can be brutal to okay films. The highest rated films aren’t necessarily the greatest but the ones that are undisputedly good. ToyStory2 had 100% If you’re not sure on RT look up the scores of movies you have seen and compare those scores to the movie you’re about to see and your own thoughts.

[@jinitorio]

The Shawshank Redemption has a score of 91% and Forrest Gump had a score of 72%,two of arguably the greatest films of all time doesn't even have a perfect score on Rotten Tomatoes.

[@goodial]

Sarcasm ! even the best movies tend to not appeal to literally everyone. I for example dislike Inside Llewyn Davis and it is a very well received movie. The current record though for the largest amount of positive reviews and no negative ones is for Paddington 2 (205 fresh ratings). It has an average rating of 8.7 though, which - while still very good - is not the best from the website.

[@Mizuryryn]

Rottentomatos be like: Yeah, we Love Cuties over Mario Movie! *IT'S FOR KIDS!!!!*

[@ProbablySoon-pv6ee]

The Mario Movie isn't good

[@bobdragon2797]

I got a tomato sauce ad before this...

[@MGR1900]

Check out the score for "Sharknado." Rotten Tomatoes is to motion picture criticism what Wikipedia is to reliable news sources.

[@thamara2130]

MGR1900 trash sharknado has 82% bu its 3.3 on IMDb..yeah critics are so smart

[@TheRiskyChance]

I don't understand what you are saying. Tomatometer: 82% Audience Score: 32% Critic Consensus: Proudly, shamelessly, and gloriously brainless, Sharknado redefines "so bad it's good" for a new generation. That all seems to give an accurate representation of the movie.

[@suryapanditi3161]

Growing up is realizing that a random person on the street probably has a more valuable opinion about movies than critics

[@momo.ru-kun]

Sharknado 82% BvS 29% 😏

[@rumblefish9]

The clear distinction here is that Sharknado knows its bad and capitalizes on it. Making for a genuinely its-so-bad-its-good movie while BVS thinks its good but is unintentionally bad.

[@Amory-wd3ws]

AlienMagi I thought he was the best part about that film.

[@gilliancrane4016]

How could Sharkado have should a high score? It shouldn't have this score. That's why I don't believe in this stupid system. I judge a movie by my own opinion not what people say or what the stupid score says. A lot of the movies they put high scores on are over rated and over hyped anyway.

[@GasolineProductions]

@@rumblefish9 Sharknado 82% Avengers: Infinity War 82%

[@sebflynnfilms]

Alvin Capalad Venom 29%, that’s so stupid, Venom was so awesome

[@itskarrar8554]

*when your movie or show gets 0%*

[@matthewlewiscomposer]

4:15 Ay that's at the store Uniqlo. I'm pretty proud of myself for catching it.

[@tracealyea5841]

Rotten Tomatoes Critics Score A Little Late with Lilly Singh- 90% Batwoman- 78% Known Down the House- 100% Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score A Little Late with Lilly Singh- 18% Batwoman- 13% Knock Down the House- 18%

[@1granturismo]

The only real critic is yourself. Actual critics are reviewing as part of their job, and not for their personal entertainment. They're taught what to look for, whereas us everyday moviegoers just watch the movie, and don't nitpick every detail that's wrong with it.

[@armena.8563]

I agree, that right-off-the-vine tomato taste is golden #PSATs

[@ThruThe9]

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[@Liuhuayue]

Thanks for making this clarifying video; I was under the impression that rotten was just a negative average (e.g. on a rating scale of 0 to 100, 50 or lower) of the reviews, and fresh was a positive average of the reviews. Turns out, that's completely wrong.

[@JasJus.88]

That's why it's called "Rotten"

[@irregulargamer1352]

Another thing is critics never want to appreciate anything they see as low brow or accepted highly by the masses. They knew mario was gonna be liked by a majority of people so they judged it on a different standard. Its like they wanted to reality check anyone wanting to watch the movie. Oh and don't make movies that have have harsh takes against the establishment. Joker was reviewed poorly by critics and anyone regularly on tv but after regular people saw it everyone pretty much knew why.

[@stevenneiman9789]

When I look at reviews, I usually look at the advertising and think about the type of person I expect it to attract (and whether they want to same things I do), then I look at the rating, then I look at what the positive and negative reviews say and see whether the positive and negative raters seem like me, whether the complaints seem like legitimate concerns, legitimate concerns I just happen not to care about, or whining for stupid reasons unrelated to quality, and whether the praise seems like senseless hype, enjoyment of something I don't have in common, or praise for things I could actually enjoy. Or I'll wait to hear from someone with similar tastes I actually know. It takes a bit of work, but I think the results so far have been pretty good.

[@andreasegger4277]

Moonlight is a film which everyone talks about but virtually no one has watched it

[@yutuberboy]

@onyourleftbooob HUH ? ever heard of Black panther

[@Undecidedable]

How about if a movie looks interesting to you, just watch it and make your own choice whether it's good or bad.

[@padraigmurphy3540]

Nothing Alissa says holds any value in my book for her take on Alien: Covenant that you displayed. Prime examples of why critics are the weathermen of the film industry where they can be awful at their job and nobody really holds them accountable.

[@JonyJuices]

The difference between a weatherman and a film critic is that a weatherman gives you the best guess as to whether you should bring an umbrella out on a given day. A film critic gives you an opinion as to whether you should see a particular film or not. It’s literally objectivity vs subjectivity. Without meteorologists, you’d likely not prepare for a cold night and bring a jacket with you to work. Without a media critic, you wouldn’t have an experienced analysis of a film when you are trying to choose to see one

[@liamhandville6107]

I think the problem is just critics who are full of themselves.

[@JS-hn3li]

The movie theatre at 4:22 is in Pasadena, California on Colorado Ave. right in the middle of Blaze Pizza (Heaven) and Vroman's Bookstore.

[@vesperfromtheinternet5588]

excUSE ME DOES THAT TOMATO HAVE VOLATILES

[@ThruThe9]

I TURNED ON MOST RECENT COMMENTS IN SEARCH OF THIS

[@SianaGearz]

Please elaborate, is this a meme i have to be atop of?

[@christinelawrence4190]

Siana Gearz it’s on the Texas PSAT all of us took yesterday there was a article about a tomato thing idk

[@ThruThe9]

It's on the North Carolina PSAT too

[@libbybollinger5901]

Christine Lawrence I think it’s all PSAT, I got it for the VA PSAT too

[@alisonnyanyannya]

Dead as thought this was a PSAT meme

[@vesperfromtheinternet5588]

Alison Harris are your tomatoes VOLATILE enough

[@ThruThe9]

LMAO

[@rodrigodiaz5003]

65% is enough for me. Metacritic is kind of random and IMDB is just madness

[@ognjen8198]

madness? I doubt it, most of movies are fairly rated, with some exceptions

[@AdityaDeo-cg6eu]

IMDb is the best

[@dmc1943]

Imdb usually has the best one. Rotten tomatoes is horrible to use, over 300 films have 100%

[@LastOlie]

Everyone knows the critics have no idea and the tommoatometer is useless but the audience rating is what you wan to look at .....

[@eagleeye4321]

Sometimes I just watch random films. Without reading critics, watching trailers and reading the plot description. Just for the purpose to break the bubble and to experience completely different films. And sometimes there are little diamonds

[@deachelo]

Adam Sandler has like 50+ movies with less than 30% it's crazy. Thought I'd just tell yall

[@abandonedaccount1643]

Deachelo ! Blended was a good one, but it got %14.

[@HugoSoup57]

Deachelo ‎ Maybe because his movies are terrible and poorly made. Critics judge based a film on how good the acting, writing, cinematography, pacing, and how much cliches are present. Audiences are overly forgiving to some movies because of their entertainment value.

[@joaquinm9148]

@@abandonedaccount1643 Pixels was also good, but sadly it got 16%.

[@danasjackunis2708]

Anyone else here digs the ending music?

[@wawagabriel]

Totally, found it with assistant : Summer Songbird - Peter Winslow

[@yamnjam]

I thought it was just me! I posted if anyone knew what it was before I saw this. At the end it says 'Summer Songbird by Peter Winslow' but I can't find it. That music stood out for some reason.

[@armena.8563]

Yeah! It is dumb! They gave The Cat in the Hat a 10%, but that movie was absolute gold!

[@hehexd4475]

Armen A. hope ur joking

[@thejay8963]

A better example might be Ernest goes to camp...

[@VinnytotheK]

1:12 Who the heck was the sound producer of this schlock?

[@VinnytotheK]

It just sounds bad, and it's mostly coming out of only one speaker. I was wearing headphones so it made it more obvious.

[@sirkeg1]

The music at the beginning of the video is the same as the "Eyehole" ad from Rick and Morty. Is that tune from some licensed stock source?

[@HD893]

Chech the audience score too. It's very important. Oscar winning/nominated movies are usually not entertaining (they have 90+ score), but you are unlikely to enjoy it in a theater. Critic score = artistic value, Audience score = entertainment value. What do you go to the theater for?

[@jinghengchia2201]

artistic value. hence i look at critic score.

[@wildcloud420]

the critics of rotten tomatoes wouldn't know art even if it jumped out of their toilet and lived inside their colon for half their life which is primarily the movies they enjoy.

[@kimballslice8419]

I hate rotten tomatos

[@racclng]

Metacritic is better, shows you HOW good a movie is not just the chance it’ll be at least okay

[@watamidoing8131]

Metacritic is full of 0's. 0/100. That's something I would only give to the worst of the worst. I mean they can't be _that_ bad

[@bhbh820]

Leo McKay metacritic gave black panther more than any other mcu movie ahahahaha

[@nikkilee3840]

The problem I have with IMDb is that they are so often stuffed. And they don't start to become "stable" until several weeks after the movie has already been released. Usually a movie will start high and then drop as it ages. But some films will start really low and then rise as it ages.

[@desel8737]

rotten tomato --> squishy tomato --> green tomato --> almost ripe tomato --> fresh tomato --> fresh organic tomato

[@mattbelcher5502]

Saw these on PSAT

[@ThruThe9]

I TURNED ON MOST RECENT COMMENTS IN SEARCH OF THIS

[@niklasss]

How do they come up with interesting videos all the time?

[@ThruThe9]

It's true though

[@wrestlingisdeadmoveonwithy8939]

Rotten tomatoes is just for bandwagons

[@FruitloopLeviathan]

When I look for a movie to watch, I make sure the audience and the critic ratings are both similar.

[@sufficientlyoldskool]

Remember when people went to the video store, looked for an interesting movie, and then decided for themselves if they liked it or not. Those days are long gone.

[@nerolox8413]

I'm sorry. Is this amateur hour? How can you proclaim you are here to explain everyone how Rotten Tomatoes work, when you completely ignore and don't mention at all the audience score ratings, which for some people, like myself, has a weight of at least 70% on my decision if to watch a movie or not. The Tomatometer part (of the film critics), while very important, is relatively more limited in scope, and for many people has a smaller weight than the larger audience score. You can argue with that, but shouldn't you at least mention this score even exist as a second set of rating?

[@tslj9126]

I was thinking exactly about that.

[@David-gj9qr]

Nerolox he was describing the tomato meter not the popcorn meter...

[@joeprado3614]

This is why there are KZbin reviewers. We can find the specific personality we relate with and consistently agree with.

[@benholcomb6646]

But do the tomatoes have volatile organic compounds?

[@ThruThe9]

I TURNED ON MOST RECENT COMMENTS IN SEARCH OF THIS

[@Irl_Skeleton]

Solution: force your friend (that has similar taste to you ) into watching for you and then see if they say it’s good or not before spending your money

[@sl4ppy1]

There are people were/are confused that tomato % represent "Percent of reviewers who liked this film" and not "This film is % good"?!?!

[@npxox]

I never went to watch movie depending on rating 😅 .I just go depending on trailers only if like the trailer will go to watch 😊

[@TheRishijoesanu]

t.slave to marketing pleb

[@lingeringsnowleaf3829]

A lot of great movies had bad trailers or marketing campaigns and the reverse also true. The obvious example is Suicide Squad, I bet you watch that movie too huh.

[@npxox]

Malcador the Sigillite I am DC fan so I was going to watch anyhow 😊

[@kasrakhatir]

KZbinr Reviewers (Jeremy Jhans, chris stuckmann) >>>> RT

[@matiassanz3694]

They suck.

[@TheWolfDucky]

Chris stockman is okay. Jeremy Jahns is pretty bad though

[@montseservin1306]

Chris is my favorite

[@Bass_Goat53]

What about YMS? He’s pretty picky with what he likes, but he brings up lots of good points in his reviews and makes you question the quality of films you’re watching

[@ericjamesphotography]

Rotten Tomatoes is right “almost” every time in its criticism of films. Pretentious people try to debate that but it’s pretty damn accurate.

[@cjnotned1639]

What's the song name at the end of the video?

[@makatron]

Personally like the way IMDB does it, one score for critics and another for us mere mortals. Very common to see super low critic scores with at least 40 points higher within audience.

[@HugoSoup57]

Isaac Alonzo Critics are usually right about movies though, IMDb rates a lot of blockbusters too high and some critically acclaimed movies are rated too low on there. Audiences don’t necessarily judge a movie on the quality of the story and writing. Critics judge a movie based on the cinematic quality of the acting, writing, cinematography, pacing, etc. The general moviegoers judge a film solely on entertainment value and are less likely to notice cliches, that the professional reviewers are more likely to spot.

[@theketaminekid1241]

@@HugoSoup57 lololol

[@Joey-db8bv]

Rotten tomatoes 🍅 and other rates methods completely worthless. Except no one option, but your own.

[@tylerm7300]

When they gave last jedi a 91 I knew it wasn't legit.

[@liafrancis5240]

The heirloom tomatoes

[@corryburton2660]

moonlight 365 critics 98% while audience voted 79% with 44,000 votes.... The last Jedi had 454 critics with a 91% while audience score from 212,000 voted 44%.... that is nothing but politics...

[@TrenchMan93]

So you made this video to tell fans of films are certain genres to “chill out” and to decide if it’s worth your money.