Why salt crystals grow as pyramids (sometimes)

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Adam Ragusea

Adam Ragusea

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@ianhurst3702
@ianhurst3702 2 жыл бұрын
Props to Mr. Fontana for taking all the effort to make a presentation in english! Good man who seems really passionate about what he does.
@liceous
@liceous 2 жыл бұрын
🥺🥺🥺🥺
@thabosibiya1457
@thabosibiya1457 2 жыл бұрын
*Dr
@einfachmia
@einfachmia 2 жыл бұрын
The moment he started talking I immediately knew he was swiss, as a person who grew up in switzerland myself the accent is so familiar ahahah I cringed a bit not gonna lie, but apart from that he really did great!
@forsakenprotector486
@forsakenprotector486 2 жыл бұрын
@@camille-rj3if god damn you desperately want peoples cookies
@rollei35mm
@rollei35mm 2 жыл бұрын
@@einfachmia it's way cuter and sing songy compared to harsher German , suisse blut machen gut
@miguelrodriguez-df8ww
@miguelrodriguez-df8ww 2 жыл бұрын
I love that he set up a powerpoint lol makes it feel like he was excited to talk about it!
@nabibbs7937
@nabibbs7937 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr he genuinely wants to tell us about it
@MrFeli100
@MrFeli100 2 жыл бұрын
I mean He dedicated parts of His life studying this so obviously he‘s passionate about this topic
@lewismassie
@lewismassie 2 жыл бұрын
My experiences with academics in these hyper-specific fields of research is that they are always 150% up for talking about their work to anyone who'll listen
@demnuh
@demnuh 2 жыл бұрын
@@lewismassie literally. That's what I find so funny about any conspiracy theory that assumes that scientists are "hiding the TRUTH from us" like smh most academics won't shut up about their research, I promise you they're not hiding anything 😂😂
@theprogrammer32
@theprogrammer32 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, I am also a chemistry nerd and I won't shut up about crystals
@JackDarbs
@JackDarbs 2 жыл бұрын
ive worked at the Maldon Salt factory and I can honestly say that you made this whole process a hell of a lot more interesting than those at the factory did.
@Automatic-Diaphragm
@Automatic-Diaphragm 2 жыл бұрын
so how do they do it? :D
@MrFeli100
@MrFeli100 2 жыл бұрын
Spill the tea homie
@curlyvideos
@curlyvideos 2 жыл бұрын
Any tips for Adam?
@tylervoyer74
@tylervoyer74 2 жыл бұрын
Spill the salt :)
@Noedell
@Noedell 2 жыл бұрын
Give us the beans!
@ryanawol77
@ryanawol77 2 жыл бұрын
Bless you Dr. Fontana. You didn't have to force yourself to speak English, and you didn't have to prepare slide shows to help us understand better, yet you did. It truly is an honour to be able to learn from you about salt.
@bopman1578
@bopman1578 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing is more pure than the excitement on Adam's face when he starts talking about space salt growing at 9:39
@liceous
@liceous 2 жыл бұрын
Adam is so hot 🥺🤭
@LemurJackson
@LemurJackson 2 жыл бұрын
Bro what is with these bots😂
@andy56duky
@andy56duky 2 жыл бұрын
@@liceous you're hot
@ho-hyongyoo3251
@ho-hyongyoo3251 2 жыл бұрын
Adam getting all these experts for fact videos are something else
@wildfiresnap
@wildfiresnap 2 жыл бұрын
@CARAMEL “Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I have not passed through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm!”
@HAbarneyWK
@HAbarneyWK 2 жыл бұрын
@@wildfiresnap Mithrandir 😮
@wildfiresnap
@wildfiresnap 2 жыл бұрын
@@HAbarneyWK I love using that line it’s such a good retort to people on the internet
@wildfiresnap
@wildfiresnap 2 жыл бұрын
@@anggraenix3566 “Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth. I have not passed through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a witless worm!”
@bossibozz3528
@bossibozz3528 2 жыл бұрын
the experts are really keen on telling everyone what they do. its their passion. You could ask nearly every phd student or doctor at a university for a chat about their topic. most will make time for you.
@CrazyMegaOmega
@CrazyMegaOmega 2 жыл бұрын
love seeing the grin Dr.Fontana got when talking about the space crystals
@LemurJackson
@LemurJackson 2 жыл бұрын
That’s my grandpa! I’ll let him know
@coffeefox5703
@coffeefox5703 2 жыл бұрын
When I read the title, I thought salt crystals grew "inside" pyramids - like Egyptian pyramids. I guess I won't ever get to try tomb salt one day. :(
@HelmLord5792
@HelmLord5792 2 жыл бұрын
mmmmmmm crunchy tomb salt.
@francoredstone4799
@francoredstone4799 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the salt grew outside at the surface of the pyramid
@theprogrammer32
@theprogrammer32 2 жыл бұрын
well, not with that attitude
@tomrogue13
@tomrogue13 2 жыл бұрын
You can always go to a salt mine and lick the walls
@TheDBZ_KING7_Official
@TheDBZ_KING7_Official 2 жыл бұрын
Egyptian's did dehydrate their mummies with salt, you never know.
@FutureCommentary1
@FutureCommentary1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Dr Pietro Fontana for taking the time to share your immense knowledge with us.
@fiveminutezen
@fiveminutezen 2 жыл бұрын
I reached out to the Nile Red KZbin channel to see if the channel would be interested in taking this project on. The guy who performs the chemistry experiments on that channel is always fascinating and entertaining much like yourself. I would love to see the two of you do something together. This sounds like a perfect crossover project.
@williamgates-crease3885
@williamgates-crease3885 2 жыл бұрын
this is an awesome idea lol, Nile has done a good number of food-adjacent experiments so this would be really interesting to see.
@cocojinx9193
@cocojinx9193 2 жыл бұрын
Nile is far superior to Mr measly Adam, he should focus on more important things than Mr wanna be science educational journalist Cook man
@roddy2561
@roddy2561 2 жыл бұрын
@@cocojinx9193 relax bro
@WanderTheNomad
@WanderTheNomad 2 жыл бұрын
Him or Thought Emporium
@Xeroxorex
@Xeroxorex 2 жыл бұрын
@@roddy2561 don't worry, he's probably just stressed, or dehydrated. Hope that guy gets a glass of water soon.
@ninischmid8150
@ninischmid8150 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Fontana seemed very excited to tell us about this topic, makes me really happy seeing him talk so passionately about it Edit : Ohh thanks for the likes, didn’t thought anyone would see the comment
@hotmailcompany52
@hotmailcompany52 2 жыл бұрын
I think hes one of the few people who really understand the true potential of orbital manufacturing
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be cringe nini
@ninischmid8150
@ninischmid8150 2 жыл бұрын
@@NathanTAK hello nepan, can you tell me what your problem with my comment is ? because I don’t understand what you mean tbh. I’m not a native english speaker so please don’t mind my spelling mistakes.
@theprogrammer32
@theprogrammer32 2 жыл бұрын
11:44 I've made tons of salt crystals just like those! I've only made hopper crystals accidentally, but in the past I've tried to make big "cubes" many times, with limited success. I think the vodka helped dilute the ions and made the crystals grow more slowly, basically the opposite of what you are trying to do. If I were to give you any tips for growing hopper crystals, it would be to try to emulate the fleur de sal method a bit more, maybe insulating / cooling the bottom of the bowls and putting a fan over the top of the bowl. Also, if you're patient, I don't recommend making supersaturated solutions by heating them up and putting more salt in. That tends to really mess stuff up when you want a specific crystal growth. I can also recommend having a PURE salt solution - like, REALLY pure. I know it doesn't look to clean to see them growing salt over literal dirt, but I can assure you any contaminants / anti-caking agents will greatly affect the crystal's nucleation, as well as tendencies to agglomerate / form a raft. An easy way to do this is by using a pure pickling salt, and running the solution through a coffee filter right before pouring it out into bowls - if you're not already. However, since Maldon uses "sea salt" then normal pickling salt will not be the same. Sea salt has other ions in it like Mg and Ca, and these will also affect the growing tendencies. Not all sea salt is the same, though, so it would be really handy if you could analyze some of Maldon's sea salt to see roughly what concentrations of elements they have. You might also be able to do some undercover investigating by asking them where specifically they source theirs! Anyways, good luck! Salt crystals are VERY finnicky, but replicating something that's been perfected to a T should be at least doable. I want to grow bigger, clearer cubes, like natural Halite crystals, but they take years of water filtering through rocks to grow like that 😭
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 жыл бұрын
I love this comment and hope it gets some visibility when people come back to this video in weeks or months :)
@AkienMacIain
@AkienMacIain 2 жыл бұрын
I am no expert, but an idea, if you can find someone with a spectrograph and just measure the crystals, you could make your own brine from the same ratios. Dunno if it would work, but an experiment to try.
@glitchout0137
@glitchout0137 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaitlyn__L it did. 😉
@oliverrosslhumer9757
@oliverrosslhumer9757 2 жыл бұрын
I just saw a post on reddit explaining how to make those pyramids, you need constant 60-70 degree celsius and alum powder to mitigate the agitation of the crystal on the surface of the brine solution when heated.
@SuperCookieGaming_
@SuperCookieGaming_ 2 жыл бұрын
funny that adam has to explain hoppers as something from industry but most people under 25 will know it from minecraft. edit: In theory you don't need to do the skimming part if you can get the water thin enough right? if you can find the height of the hopper crystals when they sink then just make your brine solution super thin. that is probably extremely hard to do because of water's surface tension causing it to stay together even on a perfectly flat surface. the other option is to find an additive that decreases water's surface tension dramatically, is non toxic to humans, and doesn't bond/interfere with salt hopper crystals forming.
@Super123456789ki
@Super123456789ki 2 жыл бұрын
Do people know this from Minecraft? Or do they just know that it is im Minecraft
@nicolasmenard4273
@nicolasmenard4273 2 жыл бұрын
@@Super123456789ki A hopper is a pretty specific term, I'd definitively know what a funnel is without minecraft but not what a hopper is.
@SupahLinkio
@SupahLinkio 2 жыл бұрын
I knew it from working in a coffee shop for years and then noticed hoppers were also in Minecraft
@anilite_
@anilite_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Super123456789ki wasn't aware it was an industrial mechanism since in my language (Russian) hopper was translated as "voronka" which just means a funnel, and simple small plastic funnels were just a common tool in my eyes so I didn't think much of it. Didn't think there are other funnel like instruments that the minecraft hopper could be based on. So yes, I didn't know about what a hopper from Minecraft actually is, here's the reason lol.
@rockypuno5453
@rockypuno5453 2 жыл бұрын
was looking for this comment
@jdrew500
@jdrew500 2 жыл бұрын
Between the scientist and the reporter we have a clear understanding of salt crystals. Well done gentlemen.
@anegginthesetryingtimes7636
@anegginthesetryingtimes7636 2 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for other things to try, my first addition to your method would be testing out different speeds on a magnetic stirrer. Small initial investment, but a hands free agitator that works from the bottom up -- not something that you stick into the brine from the top and stir, which would mess with your prospective hopper crystals floating at the surface.
@ritwikgupta1558
@ritwikgupta1558 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Fontana seems like such a nice professor!
@derkateramabend
@derkateramabend 2 жыл бұрын
As a Swiss person myself, I was really happy when I heard Dr Fontana's Swiss accent in one of your videos ^^ Really interesting topic as well, great job Mr Ragusea!
@JackDuffley
@JackDuffley 2 жыл бұрын
"My name is Pietro Fontana. But everybody calls me Fontana."
@maxwuup2152
@maxwuup2152 2 жыл бұрын
Good one, he kinda talks in a similar way
@Froge4291
@Froge4291 2 жыл бұрын
*Music starts playing in the background*
@daviddet
@daviddet 2 жыл бұрын
As a chemist, I absolutely love videos like this because it's always fascinating seeing where two of my biggest passions intersect. And I ALWAYS learn something whenever I watch one of your videos. I'm super grateful that you clearly take the time and effort to truly understand a subject before you bring it to us, and it's refreshing seeing content that's so well-informed. And I'm not an expert (though I do grow a lot of crystals in lab), but my best guess at trying to solve the salt crystal dilemma would be to use supersaturated solution just to initiate the crystal growth, and then when you use it to seed another solution, make it less concentrated than fully saturated. I like to get my solutions to the point just before saturation and let evaporation take it down the rest of the way.
@Rig0r_M0rtis
@Rig0r_M0rtis Жыл бұрын
About a month ago the other cooking youtuber, the French guy Alex, did a video on this flakey salt and he was actually succesful in producing hollow crystals
@AlexanderPetersonml
@AlexanderPetersonml Жыл бұрын
He cites this blog, which recommends using alum to "calm" the surface of the water. The author demonstrates by putting a cork in normal and alum-treated water, and the results are astonishing
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam, I recently uncovered a big can of worms that I think could be a classic Ragusea research topic. It has to do with how often people go to the store and buy groceries. Living in American suburbs (Portland, OR in case it matters), I grew up with the family going to the store every 1-2 weeks, loading up fridge freezer and pantry, and then eating from the stockpile until it's no longer practical. Recently it has come to my attention that a very large portion of the world buys their groceries day-of or day-before. The topic arose from a discussion (argument) about urban planning and transportation. Cities in the US, Canada, etc are primarily low-density and designed for cars, whereas in Europe and many other places, they tend to be higher density and lean primarily on mass transit. I expressed dismay at how one could possibly get their 2 weeks' supply of groceries while relying on light rail, and this was the first many of them had heard of such a thing. This lead to a bit of mutual culture shock. They couldn't imagine how I could keep 2 weeks' worth of bread (7 loaves for 2 people) fresh. I couldn't imagine anyone eating that much bread. I'll buy 1 loaf of sourdough and have real trouble getting through it in 2 weeks. They imagined the only reason one might shop for more than 1 day of food was because it takes 45 minutes for an American to drive to the grocery store (a fashionable myth that probably comes from LA and NYC having a duopoly on media). Whereas to most Americans I know, the only reason one would schlep to the store every single day would be due to not owning a car for whatever exotic reason ($8/gal gas, roads designed circa Caesar or Stalin, etc). All this leads to some interesting thoughts and questions. How much does something as seemingly unrelated as road planning affect our diets? When you have no choice but to get your food fresh every day, there's a lot less demand for something that'll be shelf-stable for weeks. Which method leads to more food waste, the one which gives food more time to go bad, or the one in which more foods are use-it-or-lose-it? Speaking of food waste, create less of it with the sponsor of today's comment, HelloFresh! The Europeans I spoke to tended to think I was lying when I said my lettuce stayed fresh for 2 weeks. Does that mean we're storing it differently, or are the lettuces different (GMOs, cold chain, etc)? Is this even a difference between the US and Europe, or are there large populations living both ways everywhere? Is there a nation-level correlation between car ownership and consumption of frozen and processed foods? And most importantly, how in the name of all that is holy can people eat that much bread and still be healthy?
@monicahoger
@monicahoger 2 жыл бұрын
Some of that sounds like a master's thesis/project! I'm based in sociology, but some of that could tie into my background too :) Especially when you consider who has access to closer (and sometimes better) grocery stores
@FebbieG
@FebbieG 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if their loaves of bread are just a lot smaller than ours.
@JETZcorp
@JETZcorp 2 жыл бұрын
@@FebbieG Perhaps a bit of that as well. The specific person I was talking to about the bread (from Norway, I think?) did say that he and his partner had bread with every single meal. Still a big shock in my book. But I probably eat 4x as much meat as they do, which I'm told is a peculiarity of North American diets.
@doctorbee6673
@doctorbee6673 2 жыл бұрын
i know its been a couple months since the comment, but talking to a couple people from Europe and a few spots and Asia it seems that we keep our fridges and such WAYYYY colder than elsewhere. Like to us in the good ol U. S. of A., their fridges feel more like cool pantries to us, and our fridges feel almost like freezers to them, mostly because they almost are.
@TextileGeorge
@TextileGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos Adam, you are a great model for journalists, you try hard to be unbiased, highly informed and you cover important and interesting topics many people dont even consider
@eank3429
@eank3429 2 жыл бұрын
Get back to schizo posting
@anakpinguin3942
@anakpinguin3942 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hello
@Hughbiee
@Hughbiee 2 жыл бұрын
I love Dr. Fontana! It's so cute that he made a powerpoint presentation for you! 🥰
@irreversiblyhuman
@irreversiblyhuman 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Fontana: my hobby are crystals. HELL YEAH BROTHER
@Max_101_
@Max_101_ 2 жыл бұрын
he knows how to party
@Dj87887
@Dj87887 2 жыл бұрын
His voice is actually quite relaxing because he is taking his time to enunciate!
@stacysilverman6366
@stacysilverman6366 2 жыл бұрын
He really overdoes the "p"s though.
@arty7926
@arty7926 2 жыл бұрын
@@stacysilverman6366 That's his Swiss accent I think^^
@dr_outcast9385
@dr_outcast9385 2 жыл бұрын
KZbinr *Nile Red* might be your man to grow a hopper crystal for you. maybe you should do a collab together
@Call-me-Al
@Call-me-Al 2 жыл бұрын
One of the science KZbinrs who may be able to do it, I would personally get several to do it for added awesome.
@tortlebard
@tortlebard 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy! Never knew that! Salt science is more detailed than i would've thought
@jl_woodworks
@jl_woodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Everything is more detailed than you would think it is.
@Paxtez
@Paxtez 2 жыл бұрын
That is awesome. Dr Fontana was so excited to talk about his "hobby" he wrote a paper and did a powerpoint.
@timtran8589
@timtran8589 2 жыл бұрын
If it's agitation that can prevent agglomeration, I wonder if you could evaporate brine over a vibrating plate, or even in one of those ultrasonic cleaner tanks to keep then separate
@sonodiventataunalbero5576
@sonodiventataunalbero5576 2 жыл бұрын
I could tell from his accent that Pietro Fontana is swiss. English swiss German accent 🥰 hi from Zurich
@francescotabarroni6901
@francescotabarroni6901 2 жыл бұрын
Actually he Is swiss italian
@axsna4387
@axsna4387 2 жыл бұрын
hoi usem aargau :) "hi from aargau" in swiss german xd krass üüs schwiizer findet meh scho emmer ergendwo haha
@sonodiventataunalbero5576
@sonodiventataunalbero5576 2 жыл бұрын
@@francescotabarroni6901 no way. Just origins, maybe Italian. I'm swiss Italian, I can tell from his accent. His mother tongue is definitely swiss German
@bobblakley
@bobblakley 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Adam. Let me speculate about why your ethanol experiment produced solid crystals: the surface tension of ethanol is only about 1/3 that of water. Maybe what's going on is that the ethanol molecules are creeping up over the edge of the hopper (bringing sodium and chlorine ions with them) and into the interior while the hopper is still floating on the water/ethanol mixture. If this is in fact happening, you might get a better result by reducing the concentration of ethanol in your solution (e.g. try 3 parts water to 1 part ethanol).
@omegafoxxtrot7248
@omegafoxxtrot7248 2 жыл бұрын
I've worked and hung out with a lot of people from mid to eastern Europe and honestly it didn't even register that he was reading from a script. His English is fantastic! I hope he's having a wonderful day
@SeidenFisk
@SeidenFisk 2 жыл бұрын
Grüezi Herr Fontana! 😁🇨🇭
@PurtyPurple
@PurtyPurple 2 жыл бұрын
The concluding sentence raised a very important question: What's his favorite *organic* substance? Then it hit me. White wine, duh.
@joshdoesstuff763
@joshdoesstuff763 2 жыл бұрын
Judging from history, Adam will soon give us a salt recipe.
@prohunter717
@prohunter717 2 жыл бұрын
Those "hand quotations" are making me feel like I am "missing" some sort of "innuendo".
@ikazuchioni
@ikazuchioni 2 жыл бұрын
No you're "not" missing "anything" *wink wink
@prohunter717
@prohunter717 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I "see".
@tiarkrezar
@tiarkrezar 2 жыл бұрын
I read this in the voice of dr. Evil, lol
@emilybrown1186
@emilybrown1186 2 жыл бұрын
timestamp?
@Froge4291
@Froge4291 2 жыл бұрын
There is "nothing" you are "missing" so don't "worry"
@angelomella
@angelomella Жыл бұрын
Alex just did it. I think the composition of the salt has a lot to do with the pyramid shape. I tried Alex's process and I was forming cubes that float. They were flaky but they were too small. They were sinking before they could get big (because of the shape) so I had to harvest them while still floating.
@happysalt4857
@happysalt4857 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Fontana’s passion is really inspiring ✨
@mrmax35
@mrmax35 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting question, crystal eng is hard stuff. Have you tried seeding with Maldon salt? Here’s something I might try: obtain a saturated (but not super saturated) salt solution at room temp in very very clean water (distilled and put though a .25 micron filter) with extremely pure salt (>99.99%) in a dust free environment if possible on a brand new glass Pyrex dish (no scratches for nucleation). Cool down the solution to ~34-40 F and carefully put 5-6 crystals a time of the maldon crystals on the surface start growing crystals put back in the fridge and wait 1-2 hours checking every 30 min or so but not touching the dish.
@TheTheRay
@TheTheRay 2 жыл бұрын
+ adding alcohol seemed to have a beneficial effect. Adding various ratios of alcohol should slow down the crystallization process in varying amounts.
@Helpful_Corn
@Helpful_Corn 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTheRay but the goal is to speed up crystal formation.
@mrmax35
@mrmax35 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTheRay you might be right, but I think alcohol would be a “bad” solvent for NaCl which should make crystallization/precipitation easier/faster potentially.
@Gokun12498
@Gokun12498 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say that I always appreciate the smooth transition from the video to the still image squarespace background
@GrayMM
@GrayMM 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try this with my kids. To maximize the rate of precipitation and minimize the sinking: - pour the hot saturated solution out just a few mm deep on a sheet pan - ice packs under the sheet pan - very dry air and/or a fan?
@TheDBZ_KING7_Official
@TheDBZ_KING7_Official 2 жыл бұрын
Put a fan by it blowing over the surface. It'll dramatically increase the rate of evaporation.
@yuricorrea2491
@yuricorrea2491 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't do that with your kids. Try it with salt, though.
@googiesurprise
@googiesurprise 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Fontana was on screen for maybe 3 seconds but i’m ngl i trust this man with my life
@sigfreed11
@sigfreed11 2 жыл бұрын
I love the smirk on your face when you say (paraphrased) “the crunch when you bite into them!” You genuinely love salt and all its wondrous pleasures. Edit: I am just as excited and geeked out about salt and it’s funky/cool science!
@notabagel
@notabagel 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Adam I'm a material science student and I have a crystallography exam tomorrow lol. I have some ideas if you're interested. First I'd try supersaturated solution at elevated temp but not boiling. Drop a smaller pan full of ice water on top and see if you can get crystal growth on that substrate. I'd also try a pan full of supersaturated solution, about an inch deep. Drop it in the fridge for a few hours and see what kind of crystal growth you see. More ideas but I think a chilled substrate with a hot solution has some potential
@lubricatedgoat
@lubricatedgoat 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the crystals respond to electrostatic forces differently than the solution? Perhaps gravity could be somewhat offset if the crystals could be charged slightly and attracted upwards towards an opposite charge (or repelled from below). Diamagnetic forces are incredibly weak but who knows how they might alter crystal growth. Be interesting to see. Or sonic levitation that will act upon different shapes in different ways, but not the solution? Have you tried running the crystallization in a partial vacuum to lower the solution temperature, and hence Brownian motion? Perhaps growth will change under exposure to different frequencies of light as forming crystals might build up a charge. Or go the opposite and try growing crystals in a centrifuge. This shit is so cool!
@phamhuyvinh
@phamhuyvinh 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Seaside where Lewis and Clark had their salt camp in 1805 so I’ve taken an interest in salt making. A few things I noted: 1. Have you considered asking Jacobsen Salt in Portland ? They also make hopper salt. 2. Hopper crystals form when edge growth is faster than flat surface growth. Using a supersaturated brine will cause this to happen since the ions want to crash out of solution quickly. Also note that Maldon users overhead heaters on their salt trays. This encourages evaporation to make the edges grow faster. Lastly, I’d wager a lower relative humidity will also make for faster hopper growth. 3. Agglomeration will occur if you let hopper crystals sit. I concur that light agitation will keep crystals in motion and prevent agglomeration since they are not in contact with each other long enough to join.
@villevapa194
@villevapa194 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about this a few years ago. Nice to know!
@villevapa194
@villevapa194 2 жыл бұрын
Since I managed to make 1 cm hopper crystals on accident a couple of years ago. They weren't foodgrade though
@rafaelutzul4790
@rafaelutzul4790 2 жыл бұрын
im so happy everyone is being so sweet to Mr. Fontana in the comments, he deserves it
@TheSlavChef
@TheSlavChef 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, now I clearly see that egyptians invented salt. Jokes on the side, quite interesting topic!
@KSGomez88
@KSGomez88 2 жыл бұрын
Illuminati confirmed.
@prajwalam8903
@prajwalam8903 2 жыл бұрын
*jokes aside
@TheSlavChef
@TheSlavChef 2 жыл бұрын
@@prajwalam8903 thanks mr. grammar nazi
@prajwalam8903
@prajwalam8903 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSlavChef I'm sorry man! I didn't mean to sound rude😅
@prajwalam8903
@prajwalam8903 2 жыл бұрын
@CARAMEL heyo what in the actual fuck!!
@sidadityan8947
@sidadityan8947 2 жыл бұрын
The best hopper crystal formation happens right at the beginning of precipitation, where the salt concentration in the brine is at the absolute peak. My hypothesis is that this extremely high salt concentration is what helps form the irregular hopper shape. However, as the hoppers slowly form, the salt concentration in the brine is also reduced and no longer supersaturated. This low concentration causes more regular crystal formation (i.e. not hoppers). I would build a small low pressure water circulation system to make sure all the brine is constantly supersaturated.
@vincenthellsing5655
@vincenthellsing5655 2 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to loose weight, but was aching for a salty snack...so I was literally snacking some salt crystals when this video popped up in my feed....wtf ragusea? now I'm playing with my food, searching for tiny pyramids!
@Call-me-Al
@Call-me-Al 2 жыл бұрын
Opposite of diet advice: the Maldon salt is really great on top of olive oil brushed rosemary bread.
@Call-me-Al
@Call-me-Al 2 жыл бұрын
Diet advice: try oven roasted salty okra "fries" ! Basically roasted long halved okra.
@joshdoesstuff763
@joshdoesstuff763 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great way to lose weight l! When I’m “bored hungry” I’ll eat a small amount of something with very strong flavors. It satisfies the desire to eat without actual taking in that many calories.
@Call-me-Al
@Call-me-Al 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshdoesstuff763 I prefer food in general that way too. It's far nicer to have a small exquisite dessert than a large quantity of some dessert that is quantity over quality. Then again that might be an ADHD novelty seeking (for sensory information) thing for me.
@TenaciousP45
@TenaciousP45 2 жыл бұрын
Please Mr. Fontana we appreciate him taking the time and in english too! He was great 👍🏼
@Heyo13579
@Heyo13579 Жыл бұрын
Making the crystals are fairly easy. You just use a special mesh floating on the surface as a starter, the mesh keeps the crystals separated you then lift the mesh when you get crystals to your likening shake them off and repeat. This process requires fine control of the solution level but over all it’s pretty easy to do with the right machine
@beinerthchitivamachado874
@beinerthchitivamachado874 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE these types of videos, so interesting. Shoutout to Mr. Fontana as well, his english is great!
@lemguins7031
@lemguins7031 Жыл бұрын
I think the difference with yours to the one I saw that worked, is that he kept his fairly warm and started a little more diluted, like sea salt and evaporated it down till crystals form.
@nonowords7857
@nonowords7857 2 жыл бұрын
Dude makes videos better than most documentaries
@Cooked-with-Love
@Cooked-with-Love 2 жыл бұрын
Cyrstallisation is one of most marvellous creations of nature! 💙
@keithyinger3326
@keithyinger3326 2 жыл бұрын
When I go to the coast, I bring home 2 or 3 buckets of sea water. I filter it, and start boiling it. It comes to a point where some fine white powder comes out of solution. It doesn't taste salty so I'm guessing its Calcium or something. After that Salt will start coming out of solution. It you stop boiling at the point crystals start forming on the surface and let it cool down slowly, you'll get a batch of flake salt. This happens in a pot with about 8 cups of brine. Once it gets down to about 2-3 cups it stops making flakes and just comes out as fine salt crystals. Its nice though. I get some flake salt, and some salt for the shaker. Sometimes I'll let the last couple cups sit and slowly evaporate for some bigger crystals and put in the salt grinder for fun. It is fun "making" your own sea salt though. I've got a campfire, I may as well have a pot of water boiling over it.
@WaechterDerNacht
@WaechterDerNacht Жыл бұрын
Already knew Mr Fontana is Swiss from the first word. But i guess it would be the same when i talk English. ^^ Very interesting video! After stumbling across the video fo Alex and this one, i want to try it myself. All that's left to say: Thanks to you both for this very interesting video! Cheers from Switzerland
@weeveferrelaine6973
@weeveferrelaine6973 2 жыл бұрын
Not a chemist- But content like this fascinates me, and I have some guesses. Actual chemists might be able to get ideas from it, maybe?: To prevent the chunks from solidifying after they sink, I wonder if you could have a layer of denser non-salt-soluble liquid under the brine, to act as your collection zone. Size it so that the finished hoppers sink into it, and are deprived from access to the brine anymore? That at least solves the problem of auto-harvesting the grown crystals. For the conglomeration, I wonder if you made a metal point that was actively chilled, if you could encourage nucleation to happen from that point, and have a calculated amount it moves down in the liquid by. A grid of those chilled points might be able to evenly-space the nucleation enough to catch all the free ions. If you crystallize the hoppers in a vacuum, I wonder if that would reduce the amount of pressure on the top surface/increase buoyancy of the hoppers due to less weight from the air, allowing them to get larger before sinking? I know things get weird with water and vacuums though, but I have nowhere near enough knowledge to know what might happen. My initial thought is it would boil the water, but I don't know how the salt crystallization might interact with the boiling.
@WarMomPT
@WarMomPT 2 жыл бұрын
The Hopper Cubes from Space is simultaneously fascinating and horrifying if you're prone to imagining dystopian fiction when paired with the notion that food companies have a vested interest in producing more 'efficient' salt formations. In 2050, people will be paid $11 an hour to go on their daily commute to space to work at the Antigrav Salt Farm!
@randompierson
@randompierson 2 жыл бұрын
They would probably keep workers up there in space and not let them down
@WarMomPT
@WarMomPT 2 жыл бұрын
@@randompierson Tired: Commuter Towns Wired: Company Towns Inspired: COMPANY SPACE COLONIES
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was just thinking about mass production in orbit sent down on drop ships, getting the balance as cheap or cheaper than making the salt on earth, and people eat it in their Doritos without really thinking about it or smth. I mean in The Expanse people on Earth have bottled water from gas giants’ ice moons and stuff like that.
@EndChineseGenocide
@EndChineseGenocide 2 жыл бұрын
I just love how transparent you are with your videos. I know that you have to disclose adds, but you didn't need to tell us that Mr Fontana was reading off of a script. I wouldn't have noticed, but it is still nice to know. Keep up the great work
@Zagill
@Zagill 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched this yet but I've watched enough History Channel to know that the answer is ancient aliens
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 жыл бұрын
In middle school I decided to try to grow crystals for science project. In excitement, I started one with salt until my dad got me what I needed for the actual project. It was not fancy salt. Decades ago in a Third World country. There was one brand that said iodized salt on it that I had ever seen at that time. I was not expecting it to work because it wasn’t supposed to. Later I got fancy copper sulfate (bright blue), and forgot about the salt in the back of the cupboard. When I found them later, they had developed! Beautiful cubes, and you could see all the way in layers and layers of cubes going in pyramids with naked eye. The larger ones are over a cm big. Not that triangle shape though, complete cubes mostly but some are different shape too. I had inferred it wasn’t supposed to work much at all for regular salt, but for me processed table salt and tap water of dubious origins as part of a neglected science project worked so well! 🤷🏻‍♀️ I always wondered what the conditions were but never researched it much. This video was fun and nostalgic. I have those salt crystals to this day! (I didn’t become a chemist but I did become a scientist).
@boggy4545
@boggy4545 2 жыл бұрын
Explain why paneer doesn't melt like normal cheeses
@StanislavG.
@StanislavG. 2 жыл бұрын
+1 It's not just paneer, all acid--set cheeses can't be melted, something something protein coagulation. Would be nice to hear Adam explain it
@arrgghh1555
@arrgghh1555 2 жыл бұрын
@@StanislavG. what about halloumi? That's not acid set and doesn't melt.
@StanislavG.
@StanislavG. 2 жыл бұрын
@@arrgghh1555 Halloumi definitely melts, it just takes higher temp. Ever had deep fried halloumi?
@kumarjoshi66
@kumarjoshi66 2 жыл бұрын
I teach chemistry and at times the 'lattice' in solid state physics. I knew everything that this video had in but I still watched it because its fun when Adam explains in ways even a layman could understand.
@LoneWanderer013
@LoneWanderer013 2 жыл бұрын
I have a business idea that involves manufacturing those salt hopper cubes in space and then selling them to rich people back on earth, who's with me?
@neconoctis
@neconoctis Жыл бұрын
I'm Swiss myself, so when I heard Mr. Fontana speak, I immediately knew that he was also Swiss, which put a smile on my face :D
@matt1285
@matt1285 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Are you ever going to make that video you mentioned once about the health implications of types of pan surfaces or did that idea get scrapped? I’d be really interested if it’s still on the docket.
@FaerieDust
@FaerieDust 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, this is so cool! Dr. Fontana's presentation was great, made me miss my old chemistry lectures.
@axem.8338
@axem.8338 2 жыл бұрын
I have Maldon salt and it's pretty good to use as a seasoning and food added with it tastes better than traditional salt. I experimented by making simple lemon and salt drink using 3 4 different salts and the Maldon salt was just significantly better than any salt.
@Reptiliomorph
@Reptiliomorph 2 жыл бұрын
Mrs. Frizzle taught me about crystal formation, thank you for the refresher.
@MononobeNoNazrin
@MononobeNoNazrin 2 жыл бұрын
salt can cake together? Found the new birthday cake replacement bois
@Froge4291
@Froge4291 2 жыл бұрын
Mmmmmmmm cronchy cake
@varunrmallya5369
@varunrmallya5369 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when people try to find out the reason for things being the way they are. Adam, you have outdone yourself
@leonmullis4233
@leonmullis4233 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes a fellow swiss person, he rocks^^
@nunyabusiness1232
@nunyabusiness1232 2 жыл бұрын
Man, now calling someone salty seems like a compliment for how beautiful and complex the process is. Great video!
@Death_Bliss
@Death_Bliss 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm not lying when I say I was Googling how to make flaky salt just this afternoon! Wanted some to sprinkle over tarts, but would never dare to buy those astronomically priced foreign brands. Thanks for the science lesson!
@InTrancedState
@InTrancedState 2 жыл бұрын
If anyone is interested, the song played during the ad is Future Beginning by Utah
@JundaComputersGmbH
@JundaComputersGmbH 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, don’t go through airport security TSA with the “sea salt” 😂😂😂😂😂
@quokka_yt
@quokka_yt 2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@leparraindufromage366
@leparraindufromage366 2 жыл бұрын
@@quokka_yt Suspicious white powder might get their attention 😂
@quokka_yt
@quokka_yt 2 жыл бұрын
@@leparraindufromage366 They have sniff dogs, they'll detect it before you even reach the gates
@catlover4ever104
@catlover4ever104 2 жыл бұрын
awww bless his heart. im touched that he took the time to do this in english. thank uu Dr. Fontana!
@SarimFaruque
@SarimFaruque 2 жыл бұрын
Illuminati confirmed
@TomboyCEO
@TomboyCEO 2 жыл бұрын
Dr. Fontana killed it! This was a super interesting topic!
@mnkparallax5395
@mnkparallax5395 2 жыл бұрын
im eating chips right now
@thekarategirl5787
@thekarategirl5787 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Mr Fontana for doing a presentation/interview in a foreign language!
@kevinflores5040
@kevinflores5040 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't he Post this already
@singerofsongs468
@singerofsongs468 2 жыл бұрын
Materials science student here! Dr. Fontana’s lecture is legit; the formation of crystals from cubic (and indeed, other-shaped) units of atoms is the basis of like, half of an Introduction to Materials Science class.
@Dtlaos
@Dtlaos 2 жыл бұрын
When the salt is Egyptian
@burrito7833
@burrito7833 2 жыл бұрын
I got so excited seeing the way the crystals grew in space, and you could tell Dr. Fontana was still excited about that too from his grin
@hansolobutimdead
@hansolobutimdead 2 жыл бұрын
Adam convinced me to adopt an African child for heterogeneity in the family
@blazeblue9995
@blazeblue9995 2 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I enjoy Dr. Fontana's accent? It sounds like the perfect ratio of German mixed with some Italian to cut back some of those harsher tones, and just enough Scandinavian to convince me he is actually Swiss. He sounds like he would be a good opera singer
@TextileGeorge
@TextileGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
BIG CHUNGUS YODA
@markopolo2172
@markopolo2172 2 жыл бұрын
What a nice bloke took the time to give you a detailed explanation and a whole presentation to go with it makes everything easy to understand
@PBM24
@PBM24 2 жыл бұрын
I think I’m first
@ashleycantrell289
@ashleycantrell289 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Dr Fontana. His english was superb, i know it mustve been difficult to prep in english but his presentation was well put together
@zineeddine7760
@zineeddine7760 2 жыл бұрын
The things i learn in this channel. Love it !
@matthewhernandez924
@matthewhernandez924 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe my favorite guest so far
@yivmaiden
@yivmaiden 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't notice Dr Fontana's lack of English articulation :) Thank u so much for sharing your knowledge ❣
@LadyLexyStarwatcher
@LadyLexyStarwatcher 2 жыл бұрын
When ever I see a video like this, doesn't matter if it is you or Tom Scott, where an expert takes the time to share their knowledge despite a language barrier I always try to leave a thank you in the comments. Thank you Dr. Pietro Fontana.
@vikigossen1578
@vikigossen1578 2 жыл бұрын
I've read the most comments ever on this thread, so many thoughtful ideas. Mine to add would be to avoid being supersaturated at all. The driving force is too strong. To gain better control maybe hold temp steady above the saturation point, and let evaporation slowly take through the saturation point while contributing seed crystals. Heat above saturation but not long enough to dissolve the larger (desired) crystals but may dissolve some of the "thickness" off the part below the surface. This will dissolve small crystals. Cool again just a little to get material to add to the hopper crystal which may be a little lighter now. Repeat all very slowly never far from the saturation point. Maybe this could make thin walled hoppers that are taller but there are a lot of variables. On the other hand I have Maldon salt but I have trouble controlling the saltiness and I break the bigger crystals on purpose so it's more a curious interest than a culinary need imo. Thanks.
@fiatlux8828
@fiatlux8828 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve made of this myself based on a technique my great grandparents used to make salt out of ocean water. You need a several gallon sized tub of brine, boil it to saturate the salinity a bit and slowly evaporate it over time, days even. (It should be saturated but not too saturated otherwise the process happens too quick) The tub should have a big surface area on top so they can form. (Basically a mini shallow brine pool like sea salt makers use) The crystals form on the surface and you have to carefully skim them off before they sink and then quickly dry them off using sunlight and/or gentle dry air before they begin to stick together. This requires you to baby the shit out it at every stage. If you just want nice course crystals as kosher salt then you can just skim the sediment at the bottom frequently and dry it in the sun. You won’t get fancy pyramids but nicer looking salt than what you get at the store. If you just want fine rocks just let everything evaporate and smash up the larger clumps.
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