Why should I control my desires? | J. Krishnamurti

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Why should I control my desires?
Extract from the seventeenth conversation with Allan W. Anderson in San Diego, 1974.
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[@anamitrasinha6795]

"I do not separate meditation with daily living.Otherwise it has no meaning."...what a great sayings!

[@soumendrapatra2342]

Just hang on and keep listening to this man, one day the truth will reveal itself and you will be liberated...

[@bhupendratomar4575]

Same here

[@Grimspear05]

I'm really happy someone is preserving these gems. I used to have all of these sessions on DVD that we burned from VHS.

[@Cecil_Augus]

I've been reflecting these days about control. But not to control my desires, but to always be in pleasure. I perceive this constant need to be in control of reality so _I do not feel pain_ or any kind of discomfort. Therefore I must be always thinking, always planning "what do I do next?", "what comes now?", and in this constant planning, this constant objectification of reality as mere things I can have in order to feel pleasure. This is insane, maybe this is one definition of true insanity. Because while I am always thinking, always *calculating what comes* next, what do I do next, the attempt is always to ran away from myself, from the emotions and feelings that emerge from my being. One emotion threatens to be the 'protagonist' of my thought, and this emotion is bad, like sadness, anxiety, fear, loneliness, so I immediately start calculating what can I do to not feel this, to mask the feeling and continue in pleasure, that is a form of stillness, a form of unconsciousness in a way that I can carry my thought without any interruption. And this is mechanical almost; plus the vision, the idea of the "world", what the world is, what reality is, is the continuation of this process of thinking, because I am also always trying to find where I fit, and by that I mean where my desire fits in the world surrounding me. By trying to find where my desire fits in the world what I am actually doing is creating this image of what the world is *accordingly to my desire* so it's an egocentric movement, where _being in constant pleasure_ is like the _overlord_ of my life, like the basic law by which I should live; I end up being a slave of it. Even when I am here, right now, I have this constant projection of an image of what I am, what I meant to society; it's constant comparison. I cannot say "I am..." while I still try to finish the sentence with the word "someone" or "something". Better saying, I cannot be I am while this "I am" is ruled by the desire to fit in something, to be part of this gigantic machine that is my image of the world in which I'm a cog. But more and more I approach the feeling that *I shall not be part of something bigger, of this hyperstructure* put together by thought and comparison. Actually it's a need, I need to not start this movement at all. And I have the impression that this is a path to freedom. I can't simply come to a conclusion and go on with life, because by doing this I continue the problem, I have generated another image of what I think the world is - thereby a conclusion about reality - and try to use it to my advantage like some sort of magical password to stable a constant pleasure. There can't be a "Pedro", there can't be a "world", for thinking these things are real I am giving fuel to illusion, I am deceiving myself, as they're merely a fruit of my desire and my thoughts. So when a bad feeling comes, when the light reaches the eye, or the smell is felt by the nose, or when someone is saying something, I have to let it be without *any opinion, conclusion or whatsoever* because if I do so then my ego is the protagonist and everything, again, is about where and how can I fit my desire in the world or fit the world in my desire. And I think this synchronizes a lot with what Jiddu is saying in this cut because this cannot be procrastinated as every time I do so I fall in the same mistake. This have to be now and always now. When I try to conclude something the desire behind it is to 'know' what *is* and by knowing have control of what is. So I'm the character of this knowledge which has a 'position' inside all of that, a meaning that only comes into being through comparison. Am I a toilet, or a table, or a wall? I therefore conclude not, I'm not all of these, so I must be something in between and the toilet, the table and the wall are centered around this persona, this protagonist. But the protagonist is a son of fear. As control is needed because I have fear to not have control and by not having it being deprived of pleasure. Fear and pleasure therefore are very similar in a way, for fear is the desire to not be without pleasure. Life can't simply continue as always. This is imperative and I think this is in way a form of meditation.

[@elisakalili9098]

wow this is amazing! thanks for this.

[@chronicrcvideos5141]

Dude it seems you have hit the nail on the head with this one. Thank you for sharing! 🙏🏻🔥

[@khushboopatani978]

Bhoot likh diy . Kaam likho

[@SriPence]

This is a very good comment, and shows a lot of thought. It would benefit from some editing to make it simpler and shorter. But the basic comment is very interesting and thoughtful. In case you are wondering what the third commenter, who has written in Hindi, is saying, here is a translation: " You have written a lot. Write less". I don't know why he has chosen to comment in Hindi.

[@subhamrawat72]

😂​@@SriPence

[@imaneditor3385]

"Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."

[@chetankhaire]

Superb! What an intellect jk has just to see things fully without control.

[@cdunne1620]

..isn’t the intellect of the brain, I don’t think JK would be too happy with your praise haha. He might say the intellect produces theories built from the scaffolding of thought. Can the intellect solve it’s own problem which is the scaffolding itself, it’s so difficult, how does thought look at itself or can it, where do you start then, you cannot do anything it seems, yes you can pay attention or be aware, outside of that there is nothing to do, there is always resignation I suppose

[@jonA9411]

@@cdunne1620 Well, he writes what an intellect 'to see' And seeing, true seeing is insight. Insight may inspire thought instantaneously. But insight is not thought. Insight is seeing, and seeing is intellect.

[@cdunne1620]

..is resignation still thought, still caught up doh

[@Physics14728]

This is an image about jk . And you called that image intellect.

[@thefullmoonlight]

The only thing that this wise old man would imply through all of his speeches (whether it is about desire, whether it is about fear, whether it is about greed, whether it is about love etc etc) is to be attentive, absolutely attentive, cultivate the quality of attention and that there is no teacher required for that, no practice, nothing. Just be attentive and thereby, be with oneself. He himself implies that listening to more and more of his speeches, watching more and more of his videos etc etc are not going to help. Just be attentive and thereby, be with oneself.

[@duraisekar6243]

Great!!!

[@tebohopietersen]

Yes

[@rusher9864]

but this attention should happen itself not by u then it is real if u does it by part taking in it then its like an observer observing itself which is not pure observation

[@here2thrive]

Interviewer is refreshingly engaged

[@akv_okap]

Let the desire come & flower and you just watch it.

[@WingZeroDuality]

Yes…tremendous energy…lets let it go…together, as friends….

[@lakama4965]

This is beautiful. Watching the flowering of desire...

[@simonwalker2800]

I don't fully understand HOW to do that

[@jonrabat5561]

Control is as death applied to life. Can't trust life. Too many unknowns Must control. Use Reason so Reason becomes higher than life itself. Blossoming flowers. What language! What a pal. Godspeed x

[@ravirajgardi6077]

People will come to this someday..

[@ramabangalore]

Just Beautiful!! 🙏

[@weaamkhalid2478]

Thank you 🌌💫💞🙏

[@bvbian1]

One of the best teachings

[@rushikeshkale9501]

No control No conflict.

[@MsSumandas]

I'll sum up this as "Be conscious"

[@saichandtripuraneni8283]

Superb

[@swetatripathi3146]

Wow thought is controlled by another thought .....

[@softboy9665]

Flowering of the desire is the ending of desire if you cut it off it will come back again . Good point.

[@focusspocus777]

Where there is no desire everything is at peace.

[@ravigujju1780]

Make sure that desire doesn't effect society

[@aprilryan3208]

how can there not be 52 million comments

[@sanuniroj1198]

Master🙏

[@carteralita5377]

you follow sir? YES YES YES YES

[@Rnk_Dr]

Just wow!

[@edixanimations3142]

Good video!

[@tariqmuhammad292]

Excellent food for thought Controller is the controls we love to live with controls other wise societies become fragmented we see what happened in Iraq Afghanistan Palestine Ukraine and world wars This is the enigma and irony we liked it or not

[@hugooliveira4440]

Very nice

[@SidSirius]

So to sums it up: Control is organized disorder which can never been fully controlled. And the countrary to let chaos be, means you are controlling yourself to the inevitability of chaos and disorder.

[@nanoggedon1157]

Only place i dont see adverts.

[@santhoshgopinath816]

Yes a good one from JK. Makes sense. To me. IMHO. .

[@wolfgangweber2516]

because it´s more aesthetic

[@enricartes2645]

That is a very psychoanalytical statement. Thanks for the videos!

[@mc.glubbings8779]

is one willing to see

[@MrJiddukrishhesse]

😍😍😍

[@attilatoth4880]

Oh my god, if there is.......

[@Thankgodthereisnogod]

🧐this is what we do in vipasana meditation right?

[@TurnAwayFromKnowledge]

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[@maheshnanavare1517]

6.21

[@NondualityChannel]

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[@apaths]

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[@JechtNH]

It's very clear to me except the very last part... How does that work? That pure awareness of the desire without trying to control will finish it for good? I don't understand how is that supposed to work

[@bh_486]

Awareness is a special quality of the mind, many people do not have it. So awareness has to grow. Along with awareness is Observation, this is also a special quality of the mind. Particularly observation without interference from the Self. Or as Krishnamurti calls it - Observation without an Observer. This is a very rare quality. If you have that quality of mind and can observe Desire as it develops within you, then you will already be one step above the desire, you will not be caught in the desire, you will not be pushed around by the desire. This dynamic of observing desire (or any other aspect of your mental life) ends the potency of desire, and you can observe its structure, in doing so it loses its power over you. But the most important thing is to develop the difficult mental attribute of observation (which includes awareness) without the observer - (Without You inserting your opinions and prejudices).

[@vaidyanathanr]

My understanding is that desires will arise whether we like it or not. There are multiple ways we deal with them - some we suppress, some we act upon, some we want to act upon but cannot. But his point is to think of a desire as another thought, something that comes up, you then watch your desire, observe the feeling of desire itself and not the object of it, and it will eventually go away once your mind moves on to other things. That's my understanding. It would be very interesting to see how this works in practice.

[@jonysingh6272]

@@vaidyanathanr have you by any chance read Antony de mello? He has a very similar pov like u just described maybe he and JK are similar mystics

[@vcimagination7137]

Book ‘power of now’ explained this strategy and how to use it

[@BeyondSurvivalWisdom]

Full video link please..

[@DavidTinxLall1978]

🙏☕️

[@Sagar-wn1po]

What to do with desires?

[@HuongBui-gt6pb]

Do u have subtitel?

[@nothingevermatters..1109]

Who is the i?

[@Simtaan]

"I" is a verb not a noun.

[@surindersingh-uq4vl]

I have seen many intelligent people becoming slaves of woman, alcohol and anger. I have seen many wise people getting drowned in the vicious cycle of desires Even if you becomes aware of your thought process, but can not move away from your needs

[@KINGJUNAID555]

You can if you know the difference between needs and desires...

[@KINGJUNAID555]

Needs are just three Food, Clothes And Shelter Rest are all desires

[@pluviophile5996]

They don't become the slaves of women alcohol and money, they become slaves of their own desires. The desire of pleasure, lust etc. They project their desires on people or different objects and when they face rejection they become resentful.

[@surindersingh-uq4vl]

@@pluviophile5996 What is wrong with enjoying sex once a week? Sex is the biological urge which is natural & because of the function of the hormones inside your body, you feel the urge for sex. This is a fact not any ideal. The only bad thing about sex is sexual misconduct, or overindulgence . Rest everything is fine

[@duraisekar6243]

@@surindersingh-uq4vl what you say is right

[@shawn7692004]

The interviewer is clueless what JK is saying 😅

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