Why Should You Pay Attention To Watch Case Designs? (Oyster, Lyre, Cushion, Integrated)

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@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
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@gian7897
@gian7897 3 жыл бұрын
I sincerely love the style, elegance and simplicity of square cases. What a great video, the best on your channel
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Right there with you Gian. There's so much that they can offer (and has to be one of the most timeless styles out there) love it! Thank you so much for taking time out of your day to watch the video, brother
@reedgrabowski8314
@reedgrabowski8314 3 жыл бұрын
There is only one KZbin Channel I am hooked on that explains watch design in a compelling manner, and that channel is yours! You continue to teach me more in 15 minutes through audio and visual than I learn from any other venue. I do not own a Lyre case watch yet, and to me it is exquisite. Maybe it is the linkage to the musical instrument. Second for me would be rectangular cased watches. Again, you are a master at your craft!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Always a blast bringing these forward Reed. The fact that these subjects resonates with someone out there means the world to me. Very soon I'll be going back to try and redesign (neaten up) watches, which is going to be exciting! Thank you for sitting through me and my verbal diarrhoea for 15 minutes ;)
@BrittPearceWatches
@BrittPearceWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making DIFFERENT VIDEOS! This was absolutely fascinating! ✨ thabk you!
@thomasont
@thomasont 3 жыл бұрын
Hi IDGuy, thanks for your subject presentation. I appreciate the detailed organized coverage you have done for this subject discussion. This was well covered by focusing on watch cases designs history as basis and guidelines. The design elements and qualities in wristwatches are some of the appealing and attraction factors to me in this watch hobby. Thanks with best regards. 😎⌚👍
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Thomason and thank you for taking the time to watch it all! Designs do really manage to tell stories and it's so great being able to link the history with them and their development (also how these styles went in and out of fashion) I also find it pretty amazing how so many of these styles have returned in different ways and still manage to be relevant! Thanks again!
@thomasont
@thomasont 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise, @@ID-Guy. 😎⌚👍
@tockingwatches2377
@tockingwatches2377 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this commentary. Case design has been a big driver in my collection recently. I just added a Linde Werdelin Oktopus to my collection this week and the geometric integrated case adds a texture that I never expected to enjoy.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it also great that price doesn't factor in when we consider case designs? Such an interesting idea to look at your collection that way. I hope you're well and still thriving, sir! And thank you for the comment
@thetaingsto
@thetaingsto 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know there are so many case specifications, that quite surprised me. While watching your 'lecture' I even came to an interesting thought, that might be a video inspiration. My bucket list for watches is way too big to fulfill. It is like I see a must-have for every watch brand. This kind of prevents me from pulling the trigger on buying my first watch. As always, exceptional video. It's always a good day, when IDGuy uploads something.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant subject for a video that I'd love to address! Wow. If you'd like to further elaborate on this point, I'd happily read your email / reply as a part of the video too (for more context) - such an interesting conundrum that I (and I'm sure many others who are new) can definitely relate to. Thank you for this brother
@thetaingsto
@thetaingsto 3 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy Sure, I was thinking further on this topic. I have the feeling, that a big taste for watches could ruin a collection. For example, I could imagine having 5 different integrated bracelet watches, but that would not be a wise decision in my opinion. On the other hand, there are some watches I would love to have, but would fit due to lifestyle, exclusiveness or simply the size, but I would refuse to let go off the Idea of owning this piece. It's pretty much the idea of a farmer being together with a Victoria's Secret model. Another taunting thought would be, that the grass is greener on the other side. Something like owning a Cartier tank, but regretting the purchase, because the JLC reverso might have been the better choice, resulting in not enjoying the actual experience of owning a good watch. Developing an own unique taste and stick to it with discipline is what it boils down.
@johnseeger9083
@johnseeger9083 3 жыл бұрын
When you want to learn something about watch history, this is the channel. Well done!
@atothek302
@atothek302 3 жыл бұрын
The new Code 11.59 case is spectacular. Not so much the dial, but the case, is one of my favorite modern designs.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Their new cases are spectacular... All of us feel the same (and wish that they're recalibrate the dials to fit the amazing form) Maybe I could do a redesign video on it one day soon? That could be fun ;)
@atothek302
@atothek302 3 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy That would be amazing! I’d love to hear your analysis!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
@@atothek302 I'm going to move it further up the list and get to it asap. We could do some damage with the subject ;)
@atothek302
@atothek302 3 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy definitely!! So looking forward to it! 🤟🏼🤜🤛
@dannyg6592
@dannyg6592 3 жыл бұрын
Such a superb video and I learned a lot watching it. I did not know my Glycine Combat Sub 42 has a skin diver case but I do now.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Daniel! I'd say your Glycine does fall into that "Skin Diver" category. I think it was a style that was reintroduced again around the 80's (the whole integrated slab between the lugs) Thank you for taking the time to watch the clip, brother!
@anthonystevens8683
@anthonystevens8683 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks IDGuy for this educational video. For aesthetics the lyre lug is the most conservative channeling the eye towards the dial but the Oyster case is arguably the most recognizable, originally a tool watch design drifting unmistakably over the years towards that of luxury and exclusivity. The cushion cases for me define the classic modern watch case with the tank design preceding that. It's an interesting discussion for integrated bracelets as there are many different designs out there today and this may be a sub-subject discussion for this video. Anyway this is a great thought provoking and necessary video devoid of complications but without the chassis there is no watch as you say. For sure it will be interesting what the designers come up with next.
@joker14n
@joker14n 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic deep dive into the details here. I was also shocked when i realized that i don’t feel compelled to run out and spend a lot of $..👍 well done
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
It's great when videos sometimes bring us back down to reality, right? ;) Thank you as always Cary!
@Ur_fav_brunette_Stacy
@Ur_fav_brunette_Stacy 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the Vostok offers watches in most of the main case designs. It shows how the case contributes to the design.
@Nefville
@Nefville 3 жыл бұрын
Watch cases are sometime unsung heroes, like Moser, all the attention goes to the dials but they have awesome cases too. Reminds me of the hunter's caseback Pateks but for half the price. And I love a tonneau oh do I... FPJ, Cartier...
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brother. It's criminal that cases don't get as much attention. Think there should also be a time when we judge how the cases and dials actually work together (in harmony) - such great history behind these designs and I love seeing how they resurface a few decades later with a new spin!
@stupitt6989
@stupitt6989 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the integrated case, the Rolex Oysterquartz 17000 is such a good design. Great video 👍
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Oh! Great call there Pete! Oysterquartz' manage to strike up interesting conversations every time! And thank you for taking the time to watch the clip
@00-Fresh-Snow-00
@00-Fresh-Snow-00 3 жыл бұрын
Having grown up wearing a slew of digital Casio watches, I'll always have a soft spot for square-ish/cushion cases. Fastforward to present day, I tend to geek out when seeing models like the Glashütte Original Seventies Panorama or a Patek Nautilus (it's hip to be square...or something like that, I dunno 😁). Also, there's a model by Zodiac called Olympos that resembles a shield (at least to me) with the crown fixed at the 2 o'clock position; it's a funky design but I really dig it 👍. Cheers on another great video topic 🍻.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Deep seated fixations on designs that influenced us as we grew up, tale as old as time ;) They all impact us one way or another. Great call Fresh and thank you for sharing what case you love the most!
@nukie404
@nukie404 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of the C/turtle cushion cases; case in point my Cle de Cartier as pictured in my profile picture! Looking to add the Turtle and a vintage Omega Seamaster, and the Tag Heuer Formula 1 in the future. Oh and I'd love to see some more interesting integrated designs in the future, I mean Maillon de Cartier has got to be one of the coolest designs that I remember seeing in the recent years. - Han
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Great options you've mentioned here Han. Also it's amazing how much the case can influence our purchasing decisions! Subliminally they're not often looked at but make the biggest impact on our choices in the end. As for Cartier... ah, timeless.
@nukie404
@nukie404 3 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy I think the case shape is something that's difficult to really appreciate until you hold the watch in your hands. Also, people still don't give enough credit to Cartier IMHO!
@kojiattwood
@kojiattwood 3 жыл бұрын
Another 1st class video chock full of information--bravo.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Koji! Really enjoyed this one and it's a bit more down to earth for a change ;) Amazing how cases have shaped the way we view watches (literally)
@shaheenevans
@shaheenevans 3 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed the Horology lesson - well done on presentation
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Shaheen! Thank you for taking the time to watch the clip. I thoroughly enjoyed putting on my lecture outfit for this one ;)
@Mark..P
@Mark..P 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant subject and even better content and production. Another informative and entertaining video 👏👊🥃
@reedgrabowski8314
@reedgrabowski8314 3 жыл бұрын
He continues to scooooorrre! ⚽️
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Mark! This topic felt like it would be good fun to bring forward (hopefully it'll influence a few beginners in the hobby who'd like to learn more)
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
@@reedgrabowski8314 Legend, Reed. Thank you ;)
@Mark..P
@Mark..P 3 жыл бұрын
@@reedgrabowski8314 😂 Brilliant
@glennrainey1227
@glennrainey1227 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful subject area, and production. Worthy of academia. Thanks!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, too kind Glenn. I'm often told by family and friends that I should be a lecturer. Maybe this should be a part of my Resume if anyone would ever have me? ;) Thank you so much for watching the clip!
@stevefox8605
@stevefox8605 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, an interesting part of the design that really does influence our buying decision, yet always plays second fiddle to the dial - tho it's almost certainly more important. Great video, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy right? It's almost like we work from the outside inwards (but the case never gets credit) - very interesting theme. And thank you Steve! Have a great start to you weekend!
@gunjja13
@gunjja13 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful made video. You have a lot of passion put into this.
@eglantinefrancoisg.9243
@eglantinefrancoisg.9243 3 жыл бұрын
VERY interesting video and research as always @IDGuy, thanks for sharing! TBH, the Cartier Tank (whether the Louis or the more affordable Must or Solo) is really growing on me. I'm a round / cushion shape case design owner mostly, but the Tank case shape (and the history beyond it...) is quite remarquable. Let's see what the future brings ;) Cheers from France, Francois
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you as always Francois! As a frenchman, Cartier is a MUST to add one day soon. A his and hers two piece set and you'd be golden for the rest of your lives! ;)
@michaellogico5613
@michaellogico5613 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched every one of your videos. This is your best.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so, so much Michael. These "lecture series" are always good fun to put together ;)
@mkphilly
@mkphilly 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT Channel to understand why some of us can't live without a watch. And your scripts are so rich. Finally bought my first Jaeger Reverso and Cartier (found a great vintage Hamilton Otis that copied the Reverso for a brief period)
@btmontres1423
@btmontres1423 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love going to the university of watch case design and gaining insight to what it is to appreciate great design.
@simmysharma6845
@simmysharma6845 3 жыл бұрын
Did I ever mention that that I just Love your videos. 👍
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Ah Simmy, thank you. The fact that you can take some time out and watch the clip means more than anything. It's great trying to dig deep into what makes these designs work ;)
@BetterTodaywithJasonCruz
@BetterTodaywithJasonCruz 3 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video from one of my favourite channels! 😊🍻👏🏼
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Too kind Jason. Thank you so much for taking some time to watch the clip (was great to throw on my lecturing outfit for this one) ;)
@BetterTodaywithJasonCruz
@BetterTodaywithJasonCruz 3 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy My channel sometimes talks about how people can present ideas better and THIS channel is definitely a case study on that 👌🏼
@Kyle-xk4ke
@Kyle-xk4ke 3 жыл бұрын
Awee oukie awesome content as always. Really interesting topic and probably the most deciding factor for me when purchasing a watch.
@blueshirtbuddah1665
@blueshirtbuddah1665 3 жыл бұрын
Great review IDGuy!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
An absolute pleasure, sir! It was great seeing you on the show this morning / afternoon too! I promise to send you a message after the weekend (getting my ducks in a row for Saturday's impromptu show) Keep resting up, brother!
@jameshoward9700
@jameshoward9700 3 жыл бұрын
Superb, fella. The case is king! For me the three great cases are the Reverso, the Oyster and the Tuna. The ultimate dress, all rounder and tool cases. I love a cushion case (wire-lug Radiomir and those early Oysters), a lyre (Speedy) and a skin-diver. But if Rolex is Porsche, then the Super Case is a 911 996. An abomination!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
What? You DON'T like the Fried egg headlights?? Right there with you... Very nicely put James. I find it amazing how much the case has influenced so many special designs today (and it doesn't get the credit it deserves)
@skzion2
@skzion2 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting work.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Greatly appreciated Skzion. These design thought pieces have always been great fun to produce and thank you for taking the time to watch the clip!
@darkstar7742
@darkstar7742 3 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Dark Star! This one was great fun to piece together (love seeing how these designs have evolved over the decades)
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 3 жыл бұрын
Loved that video!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Jim! It was great digging back into the "design elements" again for a change ;)
@Macm73
@Macm73 3 жыл бұрын
Always educational 👍
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a ton Mac! This was great fun to throw together
@triniboy05
@triniboy05 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been critical of your content and presentation in the past and I apologize for that, as I may have just misunderstood your approach and I should’ve been more open minded. Plainly, I was wrong for being narrow minded. That being said, thank you for this lesson and I look forward to going through everything with a new perspective.
@MTbone7
@MTbone7 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always brother!
@mkphilly
@mkphilly 3 жыл бұрын
The case and dial are everything
@ericb8888
@ericb8888 3 жыл бұрын
The habillage is so often overlooked , great topic !
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Always the one to add a touch of class to a conversation, sir ;)
@ericb8888
@ericb8888 3 жыл бұрын
My wife would beg to differ ;)
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
@@ericb8888 Ah, ladies will never understand us, brother
@201950201950
@201950201950 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo! What an amazing presentation. Thank you..
@drewsleyy3836
@drewsleyy3836 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible video. And since I know you’re a man that cares - the “r” in Cartier is not pronounced! Subscribing 👌🏻
@Daavi85
@Daavi85 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation and breakdown as always IDGuy
@finesse49
@finesse49 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic. It would have been interesting to hear you take on the design of case sides, too. I find slab sides boring whereas the rounded contours of a Seiko SARB, Junghans Max Bill or Timefactors Smiths Everest are far more pleasing to the eye.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
We both know that's going to happen one day too haha! What's more meta than cases? Case sides! Excellent subject idea too. There's so much detail we can pull from how the sides of cases are finished (as well as their proportions etc) Thank you Larry!
@SheshankReddyS
@SheshankReddyS 3 жыл бұрын
Would the early G-Shocks the Octagons (5000 series) referred to as "Squares" and the Horseshoes (6000 and 7000 series) be classified as "Integrated"? I love that watch case. There's something bracelet-like about having the lugs flow into the strap with a defined curvature and lower flexibility. It gives the watch the visual bulk that defines the brand while also adding additional shock-protection.
@watchsixto
@watchsixto 3 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal video sir always love hearing your take on watches even with the haute 🤙
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for tuning into the show this afternoon / evening! The boys were particularly nasty to me ;) Was a good laugh
@watchsixto
@watchsixto 3 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy you guy put on a awesome livestream when you get together. Yes they were going after you this time around hopefully you'll get your chance to get back at them
@PieprzonyMetal
@PieprzonyMetal 3 жыл бұрын
Pink gold with integrated bracelet, what was it?
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually a piece that's just arrived this week called the Parmigiani Fleurier Tonda "PF Collection" - I'll be discussing it this weekend on a livestream (and all the new releases from Geneva Watch Days)
@vidalaguilera7603
@vidalaguilera7603 3 жыл бұрын
I find my Zodiac Olympos case unique and interesting. It's become my everyday watch now. I find myself at work sometimes just looking at it for a few minutes.
@PaoloZucchetti
@PaoloZucchetti 3 жыл бұрын
great analysis
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paolo! Really had fun throwing this one together
@karl_m3013
@karl_m3013 3 жыл бұрын
++Another great video where I learned some interesting stuff.
@morgan97475
@morgan97475 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@CH-yp5by
@CH-yp5by 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@stu8506
@stu8506 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Swatch case?
@gelmibson883
@gelmibson883 3 жыл бұрын
Wooo!
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure Gel! Keep the hair game strong!
@georgehave
@georgehave 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of like talking about the elephant in the room. Overlooked in all the specs and discussions. But the foundation.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Very well said George. More people are coming around to see how much of an impact the case makes too (which is great news)
@midas1929
@midas1929 3 жыл бұрын
I might to have to get a Monaco, just because my wife thinks it is too "macho". Personally I think that the case of the AP 11.59 is hated and underrated for no reasons, although I agree that the watch needs some "fine tuning".
@alexito9213
@alexito9213 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. You are soooo good 👍
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking some time out of your day to watch clip Alexito! Love bringing these more "design related" clips out once and a while ;)
@jean-claudebeaver6614
@jean-claudebeaver6614 3 жыл бұрын
I love a good RM tonneau case
@watchguy5675
@watchguy5675 Жыл бұрын
I think I'm a sucker for tonneau watches because I have 9 of them.
@Ptrmndza
@Ptrmndza 3 жыл бұрын
Actually I find that most of the newer watch channels on KZbin do nothing but talk about the case or dial, the movement is just an afterthought, sometimes not even. I find those channels kinda pointless but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️
@Valera_Scotland
@Valera_Scotland 3 жыл бұрын
Sixth ❤ 💙 💜
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
We don't discriminate here ;) Hope you're well Valera!
@Valera_Scotland
@Valera_Scotland 3 жыл бұрын
@@ID-Guy I'm okay matey. My grail way have changed though. Omega 2255.80 blue.... instead of Explorer 36mm... man .... that omega
@theenavybluemonster
@theenavybluemonster 3 жыл бұрын
Love the lyre and cushion cases. Not a fan of integrated cases.
@ericl755
@ericl755 3 жыл бұрын
Oyster case is not an icon imho.
@Bob.martens
@Bob.martens 2 жыл бұрын
Reverso.
@dtac_10_29
@dtac_10_29 3 жыл бұрын
All watches are homages to the one and only crown jewel of watch industry - Rolex, and homages are for losers. - heard from a black sub owner
@watchingandseeing
@watchingandseeing 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex won.
@ID-Guy
@ID-Guy 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex did. Can't not have the Oyster case knocking about there somewhere ;)
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