Why Shrek the Third is a Cinematic Disaster

[@PeeperSnail]

How to make Shrek's fear of kids actually good: Make it a fear of him letting down his children. Like instead of the avalanche of babies, make the dream about seeing his potential kid grow up, and one way or another have him fail them in some manner. Maybe he doesn't know how to treat children well, so his kid grows up to dislike him. Or maybe he fails to protect them in one way or another. It would ride along his general insecurity of not being good enough compared to the good things he has in life.

[@MrShadowThief]

I mean, those WERE his fears all along, and he made that explicit. The movie just didn't explore it that much. They just showed how Shrek was able to overcome those fears with Artie.

[@awesomegaymer5786]

or maybe hes worried society will hate his kids too since theyd be ogre princes and princesses

[@cthonisprincess4011]

bekah saxon Given the context of the films, I’d say it’s an understandable fear of the cycle of abuse, in Shrek 3, Shrek mentions that his father was abusive, and in the original dialogue for the campfire scene in S1 Donkey picks up the fact that Shrek’s antisocial attitude is due to the fact that “someone hurt you so bad, someone hurt you many years ago” to which Shrek immediately snaps “leave my parents out of this!” And in a tie-in comic for the movies, we learn that his parents are genuinely not nice people.

[@awesomegaymer5786]

@@cthonisprincess4011 yeh there are dozens of better things too do with his parent fear

[@donnamitsuki281]

Or he's just worried of having some weird "ogre instinct" according to himself. He doesn't,his dad was just a bad person. But he's afraid. So the movie has him learning he can break the cycle once and for all with his kids

[@8-bitsarda747]

I wont lie, that shot of Prince Charming riding through the forest on a horse, only for the camera to zoom out and reveal that he's actually pretending to ride a stick with a horse head in front of scrolling screen always gets a chuckle out of me

[@matheusmariani3108]

Turned into a meme for some months

[@thisisrex1676]

That is the only scene I like in this movie.

[@DopeDevastation]

But this KZbinr says it wasn't funny, yall a bunch of followers this movie has tons of comedy, people just bandwagon hate

[@hamishstewart5324]

Also… *DADA*

[@hentaihaven2843]

@@hamishstewart5324 that creeped me out as kid ngl

[@tiergas98]

The only scene that I liked was when Prince Charming is asking Pinocchio where Shrek is because he can't lie. So Pinocchio tells the truth but gives long winded nothing answers. That got genuine laughs out of me. Everything else no

[@DopeDevastation]

But this KZbinr says it wasn't funny, yall a bunch of followers this movie has tons of comedy, people just bandwagon hate

[@hoykfnvnnesnxnnensncjforkx1616]

@@DopeDevastation tons of other comments say their favorite parts and that they like most of the movie or share their own issues with it he didn't bring up.

[@nittayoshifumi8252]

@@DopeDevastationIt has its ups and downs.

[@manio_e]

@@DopeDevastation you can agree or disagree with youtubers… It isn’t heresy lmao.

[@Kabbaway]

@Chris Bello I will admit that was actually some smart comedy, and it was cool to see Pinocchio finally learn from his weakness

[@Fppiq]

Apart from the Pinocchio lying scene, a scene I also find funny (kinda) is when Charming’s practising for killing Shrek. He’s just killing people in Shrek suits and hearing them grunt when they die is always a nice detail. I also love Charming’s frustration during his practise. Most of the time it gets a chuckle from me.

[@wserthmar8908]

the high school sequence was great and should've been longer. Besides, Puss in Boots' funniest lines were "some people don't understand borderlines" and "you my friend are royally ******"

[@Yeetus__Deletus__PS]

"Well somebody better be dying" was also pretty funny, then it ruined it with multiple fake deaths

[@LegoReader12345hello]

Indeed, it got funny when he thought the last guy in the Shrek costume he just killed was laying around.

[@matheusmariani3108]

"WHO TOLD YOU TO STOP DANCING?!"

[@Mushroom_Man]

I feel like it would have gone down better if they decided to have Prince Charming become hardened and cruel by the death of his mother, instead of keeping him as a pathetic loser. Think about it, he’s lost *everything*. His love interest, his destiny, his own family, everything is gone. He should have become something sinister, maybe personally scarring up his face as a way to denounce his name, thinking it no longer befits him. He pours all waking moments into becoming the head of the fairytale badguys with force. When he seizes far far away, he doesn’t want to rule it, he wants to destroy it. He wants to render the kingdom that ruined his life asunder, and he wants Shrek there to witness it all. Then, and only then, would he want to kill Shrek. Knowing the ogre has felt a meagre amount of the pain he had felt. And after it was all said and done, he’d look up into the night sky and whisper, his voice raspy from smoke inhalation and ceaseless battle. “for you... mommy.”

[@stopmakingeyesatme1290]

For the creators, who seem to have wanted to make something easy and safe, that idea would've been too good.

[@terra_the_nightingale135]

Honestly I Dislike Mushrooms can we make an unofficial Shrek 3 with this plot

[@afriendofepicproportions]

That literally sounds like Shrek the Third could be a passably Game of Thrones-esque animated movie & I love it

[@mettatonneo1147]

Honestly I Dislike Mushrooms You just made a better Shrek movie than Dreamworks did for Shrek the Third

[@darthestar8791]

Damn. That would've a Great Version of Charming.

[@Kumaclaws]

They could have done so much more with Shrek being afraid of being a father. What if he's afraid that his children are going to be hunted down or lynched by people who hate ogres? What if he's still used to being feared so he assumes that his children are going to hate him? What if he's worried that his children are going to be alienated from how he grew up because they're royalty/celebrity children? But none of that is even considered, instead it's just Baby flood

[@danidkg4071]

wow that’s actually so true, and it really parallels to real life issues as well...

[@iminsidethewalls8141]

I agree, these ideas are pretty good. But unfortunately, they thought "Nah, let's just kinda rip off Son of the Mask."

[@nintendodude5934]

exactly what I was thinking!

[@PsylomeAlpha]

I mean, they could even have had him worrying that he'd end up accidentally mashing them with his ogre strength.

[@nakedmario6155]

Matt Trulock the line charming says about him not being good with kids I think it would work better with shrek already having kids

[@thatonefool0215]

Literally the only joke i laughed at was this one: Shrek: "well, somebody better be dying!" King Harold: "I'm dying"

[@BroomPusher2024]

The film: Proceeds to Milk the ever loving hell outta the joke of Harold dying for 10 minutes.

[@lilbill7385]

The scene where two guys come out of a van with smoke and start talking smoking myrrh was pretty funny

[@lolcat5]

and even then that joke is pretty bad, really goes to show how bad this movie is.

[@kevinquiroz5384]

Another good thing about this movie is the Spanish dub, which made some of the bad jokes go decent

[@GreatOldOne9866]

DAAAAHHH! you really need to get yourself a pair of jammies!

[@collegechair]

I never understood how it was a plan to send Shrek to a high school unannounced and to just pick up some kid and take him home. Wouldn't they send the same people with the trumpets that collected Shrek and Fiona?

[@genericname2747]

Would've made sense if Shrek INSISTED that he be the one to get Arthur, because he doesn't want to be at the castle

[@mariyah3842]

you’ve brought some sense into me

[@cynicat74]

The worst part is that this movie does have some genuinely good humour, and dialogue, there's clearly SOME talent behind it. It feels like there's one good writer getting drowned out by a bunch of terrible ones.

[@DopeDevastation]

But this KZbinr says it wasn't funny, yall a bunch of followers this movie has tons of comedy, people just bandwagon hate

[@rinastar1952]

@@DopeDevastation stop spamming.

[@DopeDevastation]

@Freesmart every movie is made from drafts so u have no point and its still funny and has many funny scenes

[@eliyana_maregold]

I mean personally, good humor in certain aspects of the movie doesn't save something with a bad storyline,, and schafrillas also makes a bunch of good points with how this movie degraded from 1 and 2's soundtracks and storyline

[@painandmisery8971]

@@DopeDevastation funny but movie no good for the entirety of series

[@whatever_it_can_be1222]

Shrek 2: What I think I'm writing Shrek 3: What I'm actually writing

[@thelastmlg2699]

I am sorry to hear that

[@tiablue9106]

SAME

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

What you think you're writing: "I want what every princess wants: to live happily every after... with the Ogre that I married." What you're actually writing: "iF yOu DoN't ThInK ThIs WhOlE MaD ScEnE iS DoPe, I FeEl YoU, DuDe."

[@kirolloshalim1533]

@@woofyou1186 dude what do you mean?, Shrek 3 is far worse

[@whatever_it_can_be1222]

@@woofyou1186 i was surprised to hear that many people don't like the first movie

[@luismontelongo48]

Best quote in shrek movie “ Ahem. This is like totally embarrassing, but my friend Tiffany thinkest thou vex her so soothly and she thought perchance thou would want to ask her to the homecoming dance or something.”

[@terra_the_nightingale135]

luis montelongo best promposal. Or homecoming whatever

[@rubyfox3424]

Best quote for sure, but what even is "thou vex her so soothly"? You anger her so calmly?

[@fionatastic0.070]

Ruby Fox I think in this context vex means confuse and I think he means that she is great in an indescribable way?

[@reasyrandom]

@@rubyfox3424 I think it means she's intrigued. Considering the context...

[@pugzilla9172]

It’s like whatever... she’s just really into college guys and mythical creatures n stuff

[@jenvanfleet2205]

Shrek: leaning to love others Shrek 2: learning to love yourself Shrek 3: … Shrek 4: learning to love what you have

[@DonaldFranciszekTusk]

Shrek 3: learning to believe yourself, not other people Stop hating.

[@Whocares158]

​Shrek 3 "...."

[@SlickRichard-vk5pw]

@@DonaldFranciszekTusk no

[@HowToChangeName]

​@@DonaldFranciszekTuskisnt that what 2nd also taught? Where Shrek defies fairy tales of no ogre can have happy ending?

[@siliswest498]

Shrek 3: Learning to turn the TV off

[@fm_0523]

What every Shrek movie teaches: -Shrek: don't judge a book by its cover -Shrek 2: true love can overcome all challenges -Shrek 4: be grateful of what you have, because one day you might lose it -Shrek 3: run away from your responsibilities because there will be always someone else to solve your problems for you Something doesn't feel right, isn't it?

[@englishatheart]

Its* cover.

[@Xehanort10]

Not only was Shrek trying to abandon his responsibilities as the new king by dumping them on Arthur he was also going to run away and leave Fiona to raise their kids alone. They made him really selfish in 3.

[@Swigbro]

@@Xehanort10 not selfish, but cowardly. Then again, that's way too much responsibility for someone like Shrek.

[@nikotsapaliaris4919]

honestly the moral for shreck 3 could be the same as 4. We never knew how good shreck truly was intil it was stolen from us. Much like star wars

[@MLG.13]

I only laughed at this movie while drinking water

[@PureBeauty511]

This movie would've been dope if Shrek had some flashbacks to his childhood to give him anxiety about having his own children. Just in general I wish this movie took his fears more seriously. I think it would've greatly improved it.

[@andrewventura3287]

That will be good 👍

[@kaylaisnothere4397]

It could have been about Shrek confronting and overcoming past trauma, but instead it turned out to just be a weird field trip with Fiona's cousin

[@gameskyjumper1721]

agree. since Shrek 2 talks about Fiona's family, this movie should talk about Shrek's family.

[@melodytheatre2887]

Exactly, in Shrek canon (if you count the musical), Shrek was abandoned by his parents on his 7th birthday. He never felt as if he had guardians looking out for him, or a family of his own. Of course he would be nervous about being a father, he never had a true father figure to protect him as a child. The movie could have covered that. But instead we got avalanches of Shrek babies in a comic relief sequence

[@komi-sanmustbeprotected5665]

@@melodytheatre2887 it’s also canon that his father tried eating him and it’s apparently a normal thing for ogres, could of been an interesting take on the idea of a person who suffered child abuse becoming a parent and not wanting their kids to have the same childhood

[@heyseamonkey]

This movie is a dumpster fire but there are two scenes that did get a chuckle out of me: Arthur: "And Gwen, oh Gwen, I've always loved you." Gwen: "Ew." And Arthur: "Somebody help me! I've been kidnapped by a monster trying to relate to me!"

[@FlyingMonkey3115]

When my daughter was in eighth grade, her middle school drama department did Shrek the Musical Junior. She was Donkey. She and the kid that played Farquaad were hilarious.

[@fawnieee]

Wholesome comment

[@babygirl5532]

Woah woah woah.... how old are you man?

[@arizonarangerwithabigirono1520]

@@babygirl5532 you don't have to be a nine year old like you to watch KZbin bud

[@siegwardinspirit]

@@babygirl5532 adults also use and enjoy youtube. My cousin watches youtube together with his kids.

[@seanshogun1957]

Arizona Ranger with a big iron on his hip also if your 9 you can’t watch KZbin

[@vontavius01]

Shrek endgames: *Shrek:* flying on the back of a dragon in an attempt to stop a wedding before it's too late. *Shrek 2:* breaking into a castle using a giant gingerbread man while Jennifer Saunders sings a excellent cover of Holding Out for a Hero. *Shrek The Third:* Prince Charming ruining opera. *Shrek Forever After:* Donkey and Puss leading a army of orges into battle to save Shrek and Fiona and stop Rumplestiltskin. ...one of these is not like the others

[@Laurmachi]

Uh... It's Shrek 2 right?

[@BigBastion623]

I might to have think about that, give me a few days

[@mariokarttourstudiosteambo5997]

Shrek 3?

[@AHun-t]

Hmm....you made this so hard I️ cant tell they all seem to fit in so well, I’ll need to think over this

[@thepillowhead2453]

Enn worst example of using woosh. He was just answering the question.

[@bethanywilson3867]

I can appreciate now that this wasn't a good third movie. But my experience watching it as a child was unforgettable due to the princess fighting scene. I think it was the first time I watched girls band together and use their skills and were 'badass' enough to actually take on a huge group of knights, and the fact that they were the princesses, who I was used to seeing in a whole different light, was also a big deal. Sure this scene didn't even end up meaning much to the plot and the princesses were largely forgotten by the end, but still, that made a huge impression on me as a young girl and I will forever be fond of Shrek the third for that awakening.

[@grilledcheezemurp]

I share the same experience as you. When I was younger and I first saw this movie, the memorie I had of it was the princesses fighting scene. Now I watch it and realized that there are so much other awesome parts in the movie (that some people may not agree with me).

[@helena-jh3fw]

same for me!

[@kylemorello4787]

They're the only good part of the movie for both me and my mom. Well, aside from the talk between Shrek and Artie.

[@artistrg3487]

I thought I was the only one! 😅

[@MissJackietheLakester]

Interesting.

[@AtlasBlizzard]

Just imagine if Prince Charming had the character arc of realizing that his self-worth wasn't tied to having the throne. He could've grown into an unlikely ally to our heroes. Basically, he could've been the prototype for Ken.

[@eastonenroth2366]

Who’s Ken?

[@jacobmills1064]

the Barbie movie version

[@MxS1996]

That would have really been in line with the lessons in Shrek

[@nanuqo2006]

Like the anti-shrek. Comes from a place of high standing, learns to accept the feelings of others and realises that he didn't deserve the ending he was promised

[@frenchfriesfan2005]

My father legit thought Shrek Forever After was the third Shrek movie. I wish he was right.

[@unusualspaghetti2695]

i was thinking the same right until I saw your comment

[@frenchfriesfan2005]

@@unusualspaghetti2695 Hey dad

[@day8361]

French Fries Fan I was thinking the same too for years lmao

[@frenchfriesfan2005]

@@day8361 Which one of you is my real dad

[@MatthewMario]

I wish it was

[@mikeymikesh]

As bad as this movie may be over all, there’s one part towards the end that’s undeniably awesome: Charming: “This was supposed to be MY happily ever after!” Shrek: “Well I guess you’ll have to keep looking! *_Because I’m not giving up mine._* "

[@jarahknuckey9064]

Bad. ASS.

[@howisthis8849]

it's shrekin time

[@user-iy1wh1cj7x]

@@howisthis8849 😭

[@cosmogcrusader5546]

@@howisthis8849 **Proceeds to shrek all over the place**

[@ColeEclipse]

@@cosmogcrusader5546 the ending of all time

[@echidna2936]

“Writing a review of shrek the third on a Friday night instead of going out because his friends aren’t here this weekend and he knows that any attempt to go to a party and meet people will backfire because he lacks basic social skills and is too intimidated to even attempt to talk to people without someone else there to initiate the conversation.” - I felt that

[@wastelandlegocheem]

Same.

[@atocanboi409]

Shaffrillas: ending of the Shrek 2 review me: :) Also Shaffrillas: this paragraph me: is these the same person?

[@MSDKZfangirl2490]

I did too.

[@FindingNe]

When I was a kid that DADA scene cracked me up 😂 kind of still does

[@SooyeonIdle]

I SWEAR LOL

[@bigounce7976]

DADA

[@tiablue9106]

it's all in the delivery lol like if I were shrek I'd totally freak out

[@williamreyes5159]

That shit is hilarious

[@MaruchanPrime]

My friends and I quote that all the time 😭🤣

[@JR-kj2px]

Also why the f can't Fiona's mother rule the kingdom after the King's death? She ruled with him for decades and she's more reasonable than he ever was. But no, let's go fetch an inexperienced kid instead...

[@shantbe]

I agree. I still don't understand how she and Fiona got passed over. Isn't Arthur technically her relative and not the King's?

[@pixi7633]

My best guess is that Far Far Away is a patriarchal monarchy, hence why Fiona's husband would assume the throne but a direct male relative would still have a better claim than him

[@GenevieveYosoVT]

If Far Far Away ran on a proper monarchy, then no, Queen Lillian couldnt take the throne. And neither could Shrek. The crown would go to FIONA, with Shrek being her Prince Consort.

[@shantbe]

@@GenevieveYosoVT That's what I thought, although it was implied in Shrek 2 that Far Far Away was Queen Lillian's Kingdom. The King was literally a frog who fell in love her, not a Prince who got turned into a frog. So shouldn't he have been Prince Consort as well?

[@Undefinedde]

Instead abolish it and make leader

[@arcticdino1650]

In one scene, rumpelstiltskin appears in a joke, but not the version from the 4th movie. They really did retcon this movie

[@TheEpicImpaler]

He appears like 3 times; he was the guy in charge of the lighting (?) in the play and he later was pointed out by Arthur in his speech.

[@traktor420]

@@TheEpicImpaler yeah, so since nobody knows him in 4, that means it is officially non canon, and it’s all because it’s the chapter Shrek wiped with

[@inciniumz4671]

noice

[@masterfarr8265]

3rd movie ain't canon

[@sagedamage109]

Same with Pied Piper in Shrek 1

[@metademetra]

I just noticed this movie was really yellow. I don't know why. It looks like someone put a sephia filter on. IDK if they wanted to make it look warmer, but it just looks dull.

[@rosielow527]

LadyShay Yoooooooo it DOES

[@metademetra]

@Lewdatrix What I specifically notice is that they kept setting the film at dawn or dusk and used a lot of fire for lighting. The first two movies were mostly set during midday when it was nice and bright

[@swizzlemc00]

@Infectonatan yes🤣

[@IofSheikah]

There’s a few jokes I laugh at but the “somebody better be dying” “I’m dying” Always gets me

[@leonpaelinck]

Feels like the "I'm dying line" should have been cut.

[@eliasvasquez7322]

​@@leonpaelinckWhy?

[@GlitchtaleLover]

@@eliasvasquez7322 More of a "show, not tell" kinda thing, I'm guessing? Like, to have Shrek say that and then the next shot is of King Harold on his death bed would already be enough to indicate the joke. I would've found it funny either way, but I can see why it'd work.

[@corblimey8147]

You fool! By your own admission, this movie left a HUGE impact on the franchise! . . . It turned it in to a joke

[@reasyrandom]

Undeniable POSITIVE impact on the franchise.

[@MiniKittyChan]

@@reasyrandom you didn't get the joke didn't you?

[@wadoogazoono154]

r/wooosh

[@oimate6357]

David Torres I like to think the franchise was a joke but a good one and and the third turned the joke sour

[@zedbee2736]

@@reasyrandom did he fucking stutter?

[@ECL28E]

"Help! Somebody help! I've been kidnapped by a monster that's trying to relate to me!" Not gonna lie, that got a big laugh outta me

[@miguelvalle898]

@SEAN GRIGSBY well it's a reboot soooooo....

[@user-bj5ki6sr6c]

@@miguelvalle898 A soft reboot would be really helpful tbh

[@r.j.penfold]

Or maybe they should just leave it alone at this point since the story is pretty much over and we need to stop killing everything we love.

[@JMandJJ7797]

I liked that joke where Pinnochio keeps using double negatives to not tell them where Shrek is while not lying.

[@arbytv5139]

ECL28E another funny moment in the movie is when Shrek roasts Charming

[@grimmdog7549]

things that are shrek canon: far far away idol things that arent: an entire fucking movie

[@bagman1984]

Wait far far away idol is cannon or am i being stupid

[@McBadassish]

@@bagman1984 It apparently takes place before Donkey finds out he's a dad and also before the Livin' a vida loca finale.

[@JacobPlatinum]

@@McBadassish after the livin' la vida loca bit but b4 he finds out he is a Dad.

[@Jacob_G9]

@@McBadassish Huh, I'll be damned.

[@baders087]

@@McBadassish nope. Far far away idol is after La Vida Loca and after Donkey finds out he’s a dad, because in FFAI, Dragon is already there.

[@aids3273]

Honestly, the third movie could have kept the whole Shrek being scared of being a dad but go into why by going into his childhood and how it became harder for him to accept affection

[@tylord.]

Fr! on a similar note, it’s hard to find that scene of shrek talking about his dad online.

[@Adamant_Adam]

I wish it was more about learning Shrek's trauma from his parents. It's briefly brought up a handful of times in the series, but I think the third movie could have gone deeper into depth about wanting to be a good parent, but simply not knowing how/ if he ever could. What if Shrek was to go teach Arthur about how to be a proper king, and through their bonding, Shrek learns that he has what it takes. We could also see Fiona going through the same thing, but in denial about the trauma living in that tower did to her. She would be confused as of how to raise ogre children, like off the top of my head, imagine Fiona going into an ogre parenting class by herself while Shrek is gone, and learning about the differences between raising human children and Ogre children. Maybe it's a lot messier, maybe a lot harsher. At least, that's how I would have done it

[@miariz]

That would have been so depressive lol

[@user-zy1xd7ml8r]

"Ogre parenting class" 😂

[@dragonzthename8574]

Mood

[@donnamitsuki281]

I think of this idea as interesting and much better than the actual movie. Just have Shrek learning through Arthur that he CAN be a good father and that whatever happened on his childhood won't be repeated by him,he can break the cicle. The only issue I have is that maybe,just *maybe* kids would get bored... Since it is a premise more mature than the other ones,or sounds like it.

[@littlesnicket606]

💖💖💖 Thank

[@juregobviooogroverde9107]

This movie was so forgettable that I throught Shrek 1, Shrek 2 and Shrek Forever After: The Final Chapter were together a trilogy.

[@HRS-pj3zv]

Honestly, I didn’t know this movie existed until I was ten years old. I went a whole decade thinking it never existed and I really want to get those years back come to think of it 😂

[@juregobviooogroverde9107]

@@HRS-pj3zv When I was a child, my family and I didn't know that Shrek the TURD (2007) existed, so naturally we thought that Shrek (2001), Shrek 2 (2004) and Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter (2010) were together a trilogy. When I turned 9 or 10 years old, I discovered the existence of Shrek the TURD (2007) because of a DVD, but I believed that Shrek the TURD (2007) was just some tv special, similar to Shrek the Halls ( 2007). But I watched Shrel the TURD (2007) only twice because I hated it, so I kept watching Shrek (2001), Shrek 2 (2004) and Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter (2010) thinking that they formed a trilogy and because I loved these films, and I even watched Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter (2010) and Puss in Boots (2011) in theaters. I kept hiding Shrek the TURD (2007) from all my family and my whole family didn't know that Shrek the TURD (2007) existed, so my family and I still believed that Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter (2010) it was the real third film in the franchise and my family didn't know that Shrek the TURD (2007) existed. In 2013 or 2014 there were rumors saying that Shrek 5 was going to be released in 2016, and I asked myself: hey, but didn't we only have 3 Shrek films? Shrek (2001), Shrek 2 (2004) and Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter (2010)? It was there that when I was 11 or 12 years old I discovered that Shrek the TURD (2007) was the third film and not a tv special, and that Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter (2010) was actually the fourth film of the franchise. It was only in 2020 that I decided to make my mom, dad, godfather and godmother watch Shrek the TURD (2007) and they hated it, and we wanted to believe that Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter ( 2010) was the true third film of the franchise and think again that Shrek the TURD (2007) never existed. If you want to know my ranking of the entire franchise (from worst to best), here it is: 05º Shrek the *TURD* (2007) (4.0/10) (Bad movie and I love to think that this movie doesn't exist) 04º Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter (2010) (8.9/10) (Great movie and a great conclusion to the *TRILOGY,* because I love to think that Shrek 3: Forever After: The Final Chapter (2010) is the true third film of the franchise instead of Shrek the TURD (2007)) 03º Puss in Boots (2011) (9.0/10) (perfect movie and I like Humpty Dumpt as a villain) 02º Shrek (2001) (9.3/10) (I love this movie) 01º Shrek 2 (2004) (10/10) (the best Shrek film of all time)

[@DorsenFilm]

@@juregobviooogroverde9107 bruh. We share the exact same opinion.

[@benjaminschmitt1562]

@@juregobviooogroverde9107 what is up with the dates?

[@Coughdropeater]

@@juregobviooogroverde9107 man you wrote a whole script for a Shrek the third rant-

[@themandownstairs4765]

the fact Shrek didn't say "you're my frogger-in-law" still disappoints me

[@jameslawrence617]

I never understood what that meant

[@ZomboidMania]

@@jameslawrence617 same

[@juwanwilson7491]

@@jameslawrence617 it's a play on father in law

[@jameslawrence617]

@@juwanwilson7491 ok makes sense

[@steveleuchtman2545]

Nice

[@Kristanni20X6]

To be fair, this movie does have a decent marching band cover of "All Star"

[@lucianoproductions5578]

19:45 Arthur and hiccup have the same voice actor in brazil

[@olojohpenguins]

They have the same voice actor in swedish as well.

[@gordonfreeman9965]

Você é um Br?

[@lucianoproductions5578]

@@gordonfreeman9965 só nas quartas-feiras

[@Occultist_Anonymous]

Makes sense time line wise

[@___petalz___oninstagram]

Shoutout from Brazil SALVE PORRA

[@swimmyswim417]

Things I feel could’ve saved Shrek 3: - Give Fiona more agency as a royal and play up the tension that arises. I think it makes more sense that she’d be more open to taking on leadership than Shrek. Maybe she rises up to the challenge, and her new duties start to drive a wedge between her and Shrek. - Then, when Shrek starts to express his insecurities, she remarks that he could choose to be more involved with the royal duties to ease the pressure off of her and contribute more to the kingdom. He might snap back saying how he can barely take care of himself, let alone a whole kingdom, and that she should be more understanding about the sacrifices he’s already made to accommodate her. Or something like that. - And this imposter syndrome about being a leader and frustration regarding his personal sacrifices for love feed directly into his fear of being a father. - Maybe Shrek’s not called out on an adventure to find a long lost cousin, but called to help resolve tensions in another part of the land specifically because he’s so down to earth and more likely to earn the respect of outcasts. Idk, I just think these kind of things would’ve added more depth and charm to the movie.

[@jaykeii]

i'm baffled why they didnt hire you as the screenwriter for the movie

[@Quackervoltz]

Please write the fix-it fic

[@biga7682]

I think they should have had Shrek be afraid of not being able to properly raise his children or he might accidentally hurt them

[@shantbe]

Yeah, I agree. My biggest issue is that Fiona, the rightful heir and the best person for the job, was completely passed over. They spend the whole movie trying convince you that two lesser candidates who have questionable ties to the late king, and don't even want the job, are the only options. Then they have Arthur give this bs speech about how "anyone can be king". Fake woke-ness smh.

[@landonscobee]

someone hire this man

[@frankisnot1148]

tbh i never understood why Rapunzel turned against the other princesses. it always felt like such a "we pulled this out of our asses" moment to me.

[@DivineChaos204]

If I had to be honest, it should've been Cinderella, but like in Cinderella III: A Twist Of Time, they should've made the other evil sister pretend to be her to lead the princesses away

[@GuiSmith]

@@DivineChaos204 oh hell, that would’ve been so good. We would’ve had tons of sisterhood jokes too with Doris, oh I’m so sad now

[@Homerstar]

I have a theory that it was meant to be a jab at Tangled. Whilst Tangled wouldn't come until 3 years later, the movie was in development for a long time so I'm guessing Dreamworks thought/hoped that Tangled would come out the same year as Shrek the Third.

[@DivineChaos204]

@@Homerstar Hmmmm what would it be about tho?

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

Same 😭

[@BenRigney480]

Schaff, Take as much time as you need, even if that means quitting. Loss is excruciating, especially close loss. Grieving is natural and healthy. Never let internet shitbags tell you otherwise. They're just bullies. Thank you for the amazing work you and your friends have done on KZbin. You've all made me laugh so many times. Please take care.

[@AngelofGrace96]

100%. You should never put your career ahead of your life, especially after such a devastating loss.

[@catboy6451]

Wait what happened

[@BenRigney480]

@@catboy6451 Schaff lost his brother and his best friend in a car crash

[@ootfan7882]

Jesus that's depressing! Hope he's ok now!

[@pikachuomg7184]

Shrek 1: The perfect beginning. Shrek 2: The perfect sequel Shrek 3: The perfect way to ruin a Saga. Shrek Forever After: The perfect ending.

[@juregobviooogroverde9107]

Shrek the TURD.

[@pikachuomg7184]

@@juregobviooogroverde9107 nice one xd

[@kieranstark7213]

Puss in Boots 1: The okay spin-off Puss in Boots 2: The perfect spin-off Shrek 5: The perfect comeback Donkey: Another perfect spin-off Shrek 6: Shrek the Third x 2

[@dylanstern7767]

Kuroodod: the perfect get along Burgerkiss: the perfect way to ruin everyone’s favorite ships Frumples: the perfect comparison to sum

[@locomotivetrainstation6053]

@@kieranstark7213 6 is 3 X 2 not + 2

[@Teebiscuit12345]

I admit, I liked Pinocchio's attempts to avoid lying.

[@KnightsaysNi]

I...uh, don't know where he isn't!

[@isaacperetz5984]

That was imo the best part of the movie. Only part where I laughed.

[@crimsondynamo615]

Aka: how to talk like a politician when asked a direct question

[@andromeda_is_rad]

I thought it was kinda clever. Don’t know why, but I think it’s clever

[@definitelynot_tfol36]

Yeah. I liked that part and only that part.

[@peekagloo]

Shrek: facing his fears Shrek 2: getting over remaining insecurities Shrek forever after: becoming less self centered Shrek 3: uhhhhhhhh scared of responsibilities?

[@user-zy1xd7ml8r]

Shrek 3: *B A B Y F L O O D*

[@akaiyoru2681]

Oh, and don't forget throwing your responsibilities on a teenager, because...well, just because. I honestly don't understand a lot of it, surrounding the succesion in this movie. Aren't they supposed to teach Shrek before the king dies? And if Shrek had gave up the throne, before he would become a king...they'd have to find a replacement. Atleast that's what makes the most sense to me, either train your successor you have now, or find another one...it all just doesn't make sense to me

[@joshuaarmstrong8664]

the whole thing of 'becoming less self centered' was forced, all he really wanted was time to unwind his brain and relax a little bit, but the script made shrek out to be a self centered jerk, which felt out of place and out of character, especially fiona, she should know better by now, that shrek adores her, and would do anything for her, he did that in shrek 2, but forever after felt out of place, with fiona making it seem like shrek regrets ever meeting her, when thats NOT the case, every new parent or veteran, NEEDS down time, or else they'd go completely bonkers and have a ton of meltdowns, its normal to want what shrek wanted, just some time to himself for a bit, not forever, but say, maybe two hours, trial period, to see how things went, its not like they couldn't have dropped their kids off with dragon and donkey, or even fiona's mother at the castle to chill out for, like i said, a couple hours to test the waters, everyone needs time to themselves for at least 10 minutes, it helps them clear their head and calm down if things look tense, so that they remain composed and not explode or rage, but forever after makes that look like being selfish, and maybe in some respects it is, but its a GOOD kind of selfish, now if shrek had yelled at not just the party goers, but fiona too, and said he hated his life, then stomped off to do whatever, now THAT might be the bad kind of selfish, sigh..always felt like shrek was mistreated from shrek the third onwards :P

[@peekagloo]

@@joshuaarmstrong8664 that's a very good evaluation and has very many good points in there but put in context shrek wanted to leave his own children's birthday just because he didn't like it. It's not like he could've dropped his kids off if he tried because it would be cruel to leave them on their special day.

[@joshuaarmstrong8664]

@@peekagloo yeah, he chose a bad time to want time off, it'd be rude, but just didnt think it was fair how he got treated, especially from fiona, she put words in his mouth, understand what you're saying though, it was bad timing

[@davidgarcia0604]

Only Good Things -"I got some sleep and I needed it, not a lot just a little bit" -"Well someone better be dying!""I'm dying!" -"DADA" (ironically) - Band playing All Star -"Help! An adult is trying to relate to me!" - Pinocchio trying to not lie - Dorris - Campfire scene

[@Liberty7628]

-“but pookie!”

[@ShootingStarStudio]

Can we add like five more Dorises? Doris makes this movie bearable

[@bunnizamy]

For me, the best scene in Shrek the third is when Charming asks to Pinocchio "Where Shrek is" and he says some complex words in order to not say a lie or a truth, which made Charming confused. I though it was really clever and funny

[@KnakuanaRka]

Thamy Roberta Yeah, That was about the only funny thing in this while bloody movie (even if Pinocchio’s voice gives me a headache).

[@lewis261]

"OH HELLO THERE"

[@harmonetheanimationaddict4419]

Admittedly, “Help! An adult is trying to relate to me!” Is pretty funny.

[@boop9173]

@HarmonE the Animation Addict Story: my school decided it would be a good idea to make us wear different outfits and call it the “FINAL FITTT CHECKKK”

[@Kettie5]

*hey hey my broski dude, wanna take this dope dope throne* - poggies-

[@danieltobin4498]

@@boop9173 What? Uh…can you elaborate?

[@boop9173]

@@danieltobin4498 Sorry, I was a little too vague :) The teachers and faculty at my school decided to have us wear certain outfits during a week-long period in May. Monday: fancy clothes Tuesday: casual clothes (I forgot what we had to wear on Wednesday and Thursday) Friday: Red, white, and blue clothes [for Memorial Day]) If we wore outfits that corresponded with the theme, we'd get extra credit. And they decided to call it the "FINAL FITTT CHECKKK". Literally. In all caps. Hopefully that helps 😀

[@golem_of_sin5874]

@@boop9173 Oh my God, I know what you're talking about, and I hate it! My middle school did that every year. The only day I was interested in was casual day.

[@DarthInsomnis]

Take comfort in knowing that in an alternate universe, this movie doesn’t exist and Shrek is a perfect trilogy

[@nosoydes9916]

Yes

[@hardchuck1900]

But what would they name the 4th lol. Shrek the third ?

[@marrowyoutube]

if it didn't exist that would make shrek a perfect duology hold on, Google says duology isn't a word oh well

[@TheArtis4n]

You mean... This one?

[@summerevening421]

Too bad we don't live in that universe.

[@PatrickMealeyVO]

The idea of Charming and Rumpelstiltskin teaming up and Charming having a redemption arc is honestly a great idea. I’d love to see a fan made film that touches on that idea. We’d get an awesome main villain, and you could show a character being redeemed. It’d be way better!

[@michaelceraweed]

no one: my hallucinations after not sleeping for five days: *_D A D A_*

[@Sunaru6914]

*HaRdEr DADA!!!*

[@polipix_]

no one: comments are stupid and overused

[@fightmefatima992]

@@Sunaru6914 *O H G O D*

[@didimentioniplaythetrombon3454]

I felt that lol

[@Fug9009]

@@polipix_ No one: comments that are rude for no reason other than to point out the obvious.

[@Kadz]

When is Shrek 6 coming out?

[@melonfelon1574]

Never

[@thewhompingwampa2671]

@pigdude2002 Shrek Retold is 5.

[@samuelconsuegra1206]

Yes

[@coolguy02536]

After Titanic 2

[@raggy4627]

1954

[@jacksoncohen2666]

“And then he wakes up and Donkey is a baby” Ogre baby Puss in boots: am I nothing to you

[@expunkstep7226]

Am I a joke to you...?

[@richardviele2894]

Jackson cohen: do i mean nothing to you? Am I a joke to you meme: Am I a joke to you?

[@Daniele-et5ks]

YES YES YOU ARE

[@ComradeCowboy3141]

*DA-DA*

[@jasperanimals7848]

Gave me frickin nightmares when I was younger..

[@zakmcgowan9080]

I actually have a much more intriguing set up for Shrek The Third. There are some important things to keep in mind, however, since this won't be a full rewrite, more so another draft of the story that keeps the cohesive themes this one tries to aim for. 1), Shrek becoming a father, 2), Arthur being chosen as King of Far Far Away and also involving Charming in a clever way. With that said, in my opinion, the villain of the third film should have been King (or Lord) Richard III, tying into the vague mentions of Arthurian characters, such as Lancelot and Arthur himself. The story's beginning can remain the same, with King Harold dying and Shrek needing to balance his new responsibilities as King. That is, until a diplomat from the neighbouring Kingdom of Camelot (spare me the Monty Python jokes for a second) arrives and proposes a truce between Lord Richard III (Harold's brother, and Fiona's paternal uncle) and The Wizard Merlin, who is also a supporting antagonist alongside Charming. Although initially the truce seems sincere, various Fairytale villains (as in The Evil Queen and Captain Hook) begin ransacking Far Far Away, as part of a "justification" for Camelot to occupy FFA. *This* would give Shrek reason to find Arthur, who wouldn't be a pathetic teenager, but instead a Prince in exile due to his father (King Richard) having forsaken Arthur after the Knight's of Pendragon, led by Lancelot, denounce Arthur due to not being able to extract Excalibur from the Stone. By tying the conflict to bad father's, and seeing Shrek and Fiona working with Arthur, we can hence see Shrek come into his own, not only as a father, but as a person others can love and adore. Boom... better movie written in under three minutes.

[@blockyoxwinkle5829]

Man this idea is actually really good. The parallel that him being a father and a ruler could play off each other. Give us a better glimpse at his childhood. Show Shrek not having a guiding figure. Show the pain that his father left him with. That's the fear. It's a very human fear, that we become the thing that hurt us

[@Trollestiatumblur]

This. They should of gone with this instead.

[@romanbryant3976]

Shreks father should have been thw villain

[@HASQ779]

Man, I love when YTP makers become video essayists because they are GOOD at editing and know lots of other good editors as well

[@trevonpernell0814]

Do you think that Shrek 3 would've been a WAY better movie if Andrew Adamson returned as director, and the writers of the first two movies returned?

[@SmartAlec1]

I feel like that philosophy seems a bit backwards. To me, you go into YTPs for the editing and that's literally what it's all about. You can talk about video analysist afterwards, and good editing doesn't hurt, but it ain't that iMpOrTaNt.

[@HASQ779]

@@SmartAlec1 thats what i meant? When YTP people become video analysts their editing is nice and i like when the editing is nice

[@SmartAlec1]

@@HASQ779 I guess.

[@thatfamiiiarnight3665]

Shrek 3 does get one thing right. The dream is realistic! Dreams are random, make no sense, and are very loosely connected to what happened earlier that day!

[@IcyDiamond]

I remember seeing you at the 2000’s Disney video!

[@thatfamiiiarnight3665]

@@IcyDiamond thanks?

[@IcyDiamond]

@@thatfamiiiarnight3665 I dunno lol

[@Paradox81818]

Also the part where shrek runs as fast as he can to the door but seems to go really slow is the realest and what scares me that could happen in a dream lol

[@justanormalcat5120]

That's true

[@eldoctoroso]

15:51 In Latam spanish he says "You got it I'm the new mascot, so let's go to Worsestershire... let's beat Tabasco and all the other sauces that get in our way!" And that's hillarious

[@WikiSorcerer]

When I was watching the movie, I was waiting for them to reveal that Prince Charming was Arthur's deadbeat dad. I mean come one; _they look the same._ And it would added to the story I think. I mean think about it: Shrek's primary conflict in the movie is that he is suffering from anxiety brought on with the idea of becoming a father and he refuses to be crowned king when offered the chance because he knows he isn't qualified for the job in-spite of the perks that come with it. As a foil, the villain Prince Charming wants the crown for the pomp and pageantry (clearly unqualified for the role) and if he ran out on his kid for personal ambitions (like, say, running out on a girl with a baby he put in her belly to marry into a more prestigious and wealthy family). Maybe he seduced Arthur's mom because she was of noble blood, but saw a better opportunity when "mummy" tells him about Far Far Away. No love to keep a family together, unlike with Shrek and Fiona, where love is what kept them from being forced apart in the first two movies. Charming could be the hero's shadow archetype; the kind of person Shrek would have been like without his better qualities (his sense of responsibility, his integrity and his capacity for compassion).

[@genevieveowusu885]

Those are true statements.

[@PEKO-PEKO]

Aza Smith That’s actually a very cool idea compared to the garbage we got

[@kylecampbell565]

The problem with that idea is if Charming is Arthur’s father that would make him Fiona’s uncle and thus make Shrek 2 a whole lot creeper

[@WikiSorcerer]

@@kylecampbell565 Then they could have made that into a joke. Even then, the cousin related to Fiona could have been Arthur's mother.

[@kylecampbell565]

Aza Smith still would mean Fiona and Charming would share DNA. Also wouldn’t that mean Fairy God Mother and charming already have their way tour throne. They would just have to kill Harold and Lillian

[@movieandtvseriesclips2805]

Shrek: "Why wouldn't you be King?" Artie: "Because Kings killed my Grandma!"

[@BronyFan27]

Nice reference to Trolls😋

[@spooderman6312]

Jusitn timberlake momen5

[@g.d.graham2446]

Oof

[@winglessfairy564]

😹😹 lmaoo I cannot with this ongoing meme

[@kieranstark7213]

*sigh* As much as I dislike the Trolls movies and Justin Timberlake as a person, it’s hard to deny that (depending on the song, as long as it’s not too douchey to Britney Spears like “Cry Me a River” and “What Goes Around Comes Around” which despite its praise from Jonas Brothers haters who thinks they are the worst boyfriends before Justin Bieber, really got worse with age because Justin was just probing himself to be a jealous ex even though he could have had her had HE not cheated on her and stood her up on dates) his music is pretty catchy so the fact that he had no songs in StT goes to show that the film industry had, in a way, about as much respect for him as they had with Bernadette Peters. She really has powerful songs, so why do movies have a problem with her singing? First, The Land Before Time 10 (which, like with other The Land Before Time sequels, I’m mixed towards.), then Legends of Oz: Dorothy’s Return (starring Lea Michele as Dorothy, and she was the Justin Timberlake of Glee, yet even less talented in terms of her vocals being annoying), what else?!

[@lilinberce9386]

They could've made the dream a LOT darker by having him be his father, walking to the crib, salivating over eating one of his babies, and that would show Shrek's fear of becoming a father without us knowing what Shrek's fear is. It would show genuine proof of his fear, then with his heart to heart with Arthur (the one where he talks about the current topic), we would get an explanation of his dream. Edit: for the cyclops with a child, Shrek could've talked to him and convinced him to let him out of the chains by talking about how he, too, is going to become a father. Edit 2: for the introduction of Arthur, he should've given a less... convincing and charismatic speech, such that he gets ridiculed by everyone in the assembly and thus crush him emotionally. Since this movie seems to be about conquering fears (yup), his talk with Shrek (people thought that I was a monster, and for a while, I believed it) would help him become more confident and charming (hey!) so that his speech at the end would seem like it could convince the villains (remove Hook and Rumpelstiltskin from scene) that they can be/do what they wanted to without fear of rejection.

[@keshi5541]

remember the target audience is for children. Yes it is also made with the intention of appealing to mature adults too. But baby cannabalism would have made this worse imo.

[@keshi5541]

@caitlyncarvalho7637 To be fair he had a really long life for a frog. Frogs live for about 12 years but he managed to grow old with his human wife.

[@keshi5541]

@caitlyncarvalho7637 Hmm I would assume so. Since his appearance changed to that of a human, perhaps his physiology has modified also?

[@torytellstales]

They also could've made the Cyclops more sympathetic by maybe instead of him taking pleasure in chaining up Shrek, Cyclops could've been like "Sorry, ogre. No hard feelings, I just have a kid to feed." Then instead of the cyclops' daughter being a little girl, she's instead an infant in her playpen nearby looking at her Dad with love in her "eye" that he's the greatest thing ever despite him doing whats considered heinous to Shrek. Then Shrek would be surprised and question, "Your kid isn't scared of you?" Cyclops could then enlighten Shrek by saying, "Of course not! I may be a monster, but I try to be the best parent by making my kid feel safe and protected despite all the rough things in the world." This would then release Shrek's fear of thinking he'd be like his dad and would reassure him that he has what it takes to make his children feel protected and safe, since he's not a monstervlike his father. It would honestly be a very emotional scene....

[@AWlpsSHOW36]

Yikes. I hate that idea for the dream sequence. Sounds like a horror film! No thanks. Glad we didn’t get that. I love your idea with Shrek and the Cyclops and his daughter. Sounds so sweet and beautiful.

[@Dafy-E]

I've never liked the colour scheme and lighting of Shrek the Third. This really dull, muddy brown haze just permeates every single scene and the lighting just feels darker. Shrek 1 and 2 had a very vibrant and colourful tone and the lighting was far brighter and lively. STD just had this very gloomy and downcast feel to it.

[@ahandyperson3586]

Fitting considering the quality of the movie

[@somethingfunny5571]

“STD” lol that works pretty well for this movie.

[@madsceptictrooper6803]

Finally someone else who noticed the overall visual issue.

[@solaris_knight99]

Shrek was green in the first 2, Shrek The Turd made him and Fiona a disgusting puke colour

[@squidstortellini7131]

Shreksually Transmitted Disease 🦠

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

I remember when I saw this in the theater. The frog king’s death scene was so overdone that all of the kids in the theater started crying uncontrollably.

[@Vulpes_Ailurus]

Jaden my problem wasn’t that it was dark humor, the entire series had plenty of dark humor that worked just fine. My problem was how overdone it was in the scene. I think a good example of how Shrek did the same thing right was Mongo’s death scene.

[@idk-ch7hj]

CRYING?

[@w1ndgeneral226]

I think the scene is a little dark because of a theory that I have regarding the king's death. Bear with me, *Charming poisoned the king* I know it sounds dumb seeing how it looks like he died do to sickness. But look at it this way. At the end of the funeral, we see Charming watching from a distance, smiling, then immediately starts his plan to take the kingdom. Later in the movie, they mention poison, although not directly connecting it to the king's death, it may be hinting something. And again, I know about the sickness thing, but wouldn't that be a good time to sneak poison into his medicine? I know it sounds dumb, but that's my opinion, and personally, it makes him a little better. A little, if it offends you.

[@RYMAN1321]

It just came across as awkward.

[@jerricaleonard2123]

@@w1ndgeneral226 I was thinking the same thing.

[@pandoralovey8771]

I remember this theory (by Film Theory) in which was assumed that Donkey was actually a human from Pleasure island (Pinokio's story) where all the bad boys went to and got turned into donkies, and that's why Donkey has memories from school, college, can talk and etc.

[@iasminaysha7479]

Actually, this theory was created by a Brazilian channel called 'Imaginago'.

[@alessandrosousa5917]

@@iasminaysha7479 What are you talking about, dude? Are you "smoking bananas" or something?

[@HopePapernacky]

OMG

[@ZombiePotatoSalad]

@@HopePapernacky Don't fall for it. People enjoy making crackpot theories like this that are just reaching.

[@pandoralovey8771]

@@Darvoth boi, literally EVERYONE is in Shrek, you name it from the three piglets and the big bad wolf to Rapunzel, Cinderella and Snow White 🤣🤣 hell, Fiona's dad is the Prince Frog. Most, if not all characters that take part in the movies of Shrek have their own original Disney stories. Even in the first movie where all magical creatures are hunted, donkey is the only donkey that can actually talk. Therefore for the sake of entertainment, let me just underline the word THEORY of my original comment for ya real quick.

[@HinoiriKurinoko]

I find it so weird that Arthur is voiced by Justin Timberlake, because J.T. is canonically in the Shrek universe. He's the knight/celeb that Fiona has as a poster on her ceiling in Shrek 2. IDK why but it just makes me have questions about Arthurt and this knight guy...

[@Wagonman-h1k]

Well it was the middle ages and incest was common in royalty....

[@imfsresidentotaku9699]

@@Wagonman-h1kThat’s irrelevant. At no point is it said that Arthur and Justin Timberlake are the same person.

[@imfsresidentotaku9699]

That’s on you for looking too deep into the film’s casting choices and flip-flopping the logic between Doylist and Watsonian. In universe, Arthur and Justin Timberlake are two different people, with J.T.’s casting being irrelevant to who Arthur is in the story. Hell, the decision to cast him may have been to follow up on the joke from the previous film in a way that doesn’t affect the story.

[@isaiahwilliams2642]

Something else I think deserves mentioning is that Shrek the Third is strangely the ugliest film of the franchise as well. Something about the lighting and color palette has always been particularly unappealing to me, even as a child. The background colors are mostly brown, grey, and a dark yellow. The outfits everyone wears also extend this bad production design, only really throwing purple into the mix. None of the colors pop, even when the tone is at it's happiest. Even Shrek himself got a color change, it was at this point in the series that Shrek went from his solid lime green to being mostly french mustard yellow, especially in bright lighting.

[@arizonaranger9530]

That's what I think too shrek 3 was just- horrible I loved shrek 2 much more it was heartwarming amazing characters (my favourite was always boots but to be fair I like donkey shrek and boots) it was greatly written and amazing but shrek 3? Uhhhh when I watched I thought: well that just happened

[@randomkidontheinternet5893]

It looks like a man ate too much green beans and lost his lunch.

[@Treeeee2008]

Exactly, every time I watch this film I always thought something was off about the color scheme and you pointed it out.

[@pokaay3163]

Yeah... this film is strangely monochromatic.. I havent seen it in a while but if i try to imagine ANY scene, its like it was coated in an orange filter.

[@sharpaycutie2]

I think the biggest flaw was making Charming the villain. I didn't buy Charming as a Villan. He wasn't evil or megalomaniacal like his mom. If anything she used him like a tool and he just did what she said. He was a mommas boy but this made him look delusional lmaoooo

[@masterfarr8265]

@Lost family dog they could've had him realize he was being manipulated by Rumpelstiltskin or something

[@jtszabo1691]

@Cherie Estela Fabular that would’ve been cool to see

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

@Cherie Estela Fabular or alternatively they could have used Charming's dad as a villain

[@jarskil8862]

True but in Shrek 2 his mother was killed by Shrek and he was exiled. So technically that revenge story makes sense.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Agreed

[@PIB2000]

The sad thing is it technically did have an impact on the franchise. It's because of this one movie that Shrek is viewed as a joke nowadays despite his impact on animation.

[@papismalllegs8473]

Bloodhound I have to agree. I've never watched any of the shriek movies but before binging videos like this, Shrek was just an ugly ogre to me because that's how I was exposed to the character: as a joke. But after watching these videos and discovering the beauty that Shrek held, I want to consider watching all 3 movies sometime.

[@PIB2000]

@@papismalllegs8473 I'd say just watch 1, 2 and Forever After and pretend the third film doesn't exist. It doesn't feel like it's very significant to Shrek's story in the grand scale of things. It just needlessly extends Shrek's self doubt arc which really should have ended after 2, introduces annoying characters who never appear again and makes Charming REALLY outstay his welcome.

[@IcyDiamond]

Well he said it had to be a positive impact in his rule list so no

[@carlosmattessich3883]

A BAD impact.

[@PIB2000]

@@carlosmattessich3883 Without Shrek the Third, we wouldn't have all the memes, so make of that what you will.

[@hermitcrab_213]

Charming: *pathetic operatic note* The ad KZbin gave me right at that moment: “being a vocal star is only a lecture away! Join me in my professional class to learn from the best!”

[@spysareamyth]

That is too timely

[@juanpablogonzalez8528]

KZbin ads have best humour than this music

[@maylissxo]

KAY JAY omg what i got a really similar ad

[@HupsoniX]

Shranos snap is now my canon ending to this non-canon movie.

[@silvskill5358]

Charming: “Prepare foul beast, for your time is done!” Mario: “No you!” I couldn’t stop laughing

[@reasyrandom]

For real though, Shrek's insults at Charming are genuinely hilarious.

[@haihai9022]

*Prince Charming got Reverse Uno Carded*

[@starentertainment-n4l]

It’s no u

[@abcabrera1121]

Badum, dum

[@abigailrutan1489]

Can a movie really be a cinematic disaster if it gave us such golden lines as "...the only person standing in your way is you." "Me?" "Get 'im, lads!"

[@TheBonkleFox]

the only joke that landed for me was that one.

[@donnamitsuki281]

Yeah only that joke landed

[@stardusk9739]

This is such an underrated comment

[@charlotte4440]

Not gonna lie, i die so damn hard at that part

[@damgedroses]

Thank you for making me laugh 👍

[@davidkonevky7372]

I feel bad that I laughed at ogre baby donkey saying "DADA"

[@shoshitaketakeyani3275]

That's the funniest part for me

[@aortaplatinum]

Naw man that's one of very few good jokes, even if it's mostly due to the weirdness and shock value of it

[@thekatsup]

For me, this moment justifies the existence of the entire film.

[@stever7283]

That’s actually pretty funny

[@Em0x]

Because it feels like a shitpost

[@NiceYokai]

One personally nice idea that they should’ve done for Shrek The Third is introduce Fairy God Mother’s husband and Prince Charming’s father, as he can be a perfect example of tapping into Shrek’s fears of being a father as well as be a compelling villain while also giving Charming some spotlight again.

[@TheoryWitch]

I PHYSICALLY GAGGED WHEN SHREK TRIED TO USE TEENAGE SPEECH

[@Bonsai2680]

YES

[@danofsteel785]

That's cultural appropriation!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

Shrek is cool enough he doesn’t need to do this boomer shit

[@Unremarkable6969]

Yeah, I got a chuckle out of that. Even the Emoji movie has a couple good lines.

[@ratatata-2860]

Time stamp?

[@duckycrown]

this movie was so garbage that it won an award for "Sequel That Shouldn't Have Been Made" and that's the funniest shit ive ever seen

[@carlosmattessich3883]

Wait really

[@carlosmattessich3883]

No way there’s an award for that

[@joeyjerry1586]

It did apparently but Spider-Man 3 also got nominated, which is insulting!

[@KosTis]

Why are the green shit that are always funny?

[@joaquinm9148]

@@carlosmattessich3883 no way!

[@waffle6454]

If none of the original screenwriters worked on Shrek the third, then it's technically not an official sequel. It's just a high budget fan-fiction.

[@blending_in]

LMAO so true

[@TyeArtisik]

Fr?

[@Mr_Ass]

Couldn't you say that about Shrek Forever After?

[@PorkyMinch]

quality wise, yes

[@GoldenMushroom64]

Dreamworks Animation Studios who holds the licensing for all shrek films including this one: “am I a joke to you?”

[@rileytrader9472]

Ngl I busted out laughing when sleeping beauty flopped on the ground as an attack move and it actually worked by tripping some enemies. That was pretty funny.

[@ThatOneGuyInYoutubeComments]

1:shrek 2 2:shrek 3:shrek 4 4shrek the third

[@mack-attack-420]

Shrek 4 was the best by far

[@j3tt436]

Do the roar

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

Was Shrek 4 the one with the Pied Piper?

[@mack-attack-420]

@@thegardenofeatin5965 yes

[@veryhard8548]

J3TT Do the roar

[@axolotls_are_cute7799]

Prince Charming and Arthur look related. Also, having "Live and Let Die" as King Harold's funeral song made the scene comical instead of sad

[@jadenpina3989]

Yea even the way they handled his death wasn’t good at all

[@sanity_sadness4669]

As a kid watching this movie I thought Arthur and Prince Charming where the same person.

[@PurpleGuyishere]

@@sanity_sadness4669 same 😂

[@mariajimenafigueroa233]

I know, it tries to be funny in scenes where it should be taking things seriously

[@lizziemonk927]

They've could have done a plot where Artie and Charming found out they're half brothers and their dad [Uther] is the direct opposite of Shrek. Remember we never knew who Charming's dad was, so having his dad reappear to manipulate him into seeking the throne would've made Charming's descent into evil (and possible _redemption_) a lot more cohesive. It'll also explain why Charming stopped having feelings for Fiona (he legit 🤢 at the thought of almost marrying his own cousin)

[@thomasquick4050]

Shrek 3’s only funny part was the line “Well someone better be dying.” And the rest of it. Was shit.

[@HarvoSpoon]

*i ruined the 69 likes >:)*

[@Whisper71]

im still angry i laughed at that

[@nosleep9816]

I can't believe this movie isn't even the "So bad Its funny" type Its just meh

[@charlotte4440]

For me, the only funny part is "The only person standing between you and your goals, is you. Me? Get 'em lads!"

[@ryan_parkrr]

What about "i hate to interrupt your not fitting in"

[@thegreatandpowerfuldc5977]

To highlight how shit the humor is: Donkey asks how babies are made out of genuine curiosity so we can all laugh because haha adult joke, but…Donkey already had four babies with Dragon. So the joke doesn’t work.

[@NJEH8TE]

Bro i think the joke was that he got r*ped ffs.😂

[@plepedro]

J.T. literally just looks like younger Prince Charming????

[@justasmltwngir1732]

Is he not supposed to?

[@Awesomeasumpta13]

@@justasmltwngir1732 He supposed to be related to Fiona, that's why Shrek is trying to get J.T. to take the throne. But yeah, he looks more like Charming's younger brother or something.

[@MizzClareJonesKNS]

My dad had a headcanon that Charming was the dad that left Arthur

[@ShadowSorel]

@@MizzClareJonesKNS isn't charming around fiona's age?

[@moved.6963]

@@ShadowSorel some people have kids really early (religious reasons, financial reasons, or just because they want them) but otherwise? yeah it’s a little odd

[@themandownstairs4765]

Shrek 1: Satirical parody movie that nails almost everything Shrek 2: Perfect sequel with a continued struggle from movie 1 and the best scene in film history Shrek 3: how is prangent formed

[@mariajimenafigueroa8311]

What about Shrek 4?

[@matheusmariani3108]

@@mariajimenafigueroa8311 shrek forever after: a pretty decent sequel.

[@fabiovercelli4962]

@Freesmart in my opinion Shrek 4 Is Better than Shrek 1

[@theweedeater1842]

@@fabiovercelli4962I see your a man of culture as well

[@saraberisha6773]

Shrek: the best Shrek 2: best after Shrek Shrek 3 and 4 can split or decide the worst place, dont really care about those anyway

[@twoinsurance2246]

“There’s actually a lot more *LAYERS* to this movie”.

[@seanshogun1957]

Yah layers of shit

[@Vleaso]

Shrek movies are like onions

[@DivineChaos204]

Shrek 1: A great start for Shrek to find true love and true friendship Shrek 2: A perfect way for Shrek to keep the love, even if a badass fairy's trying to stop it Shrek 3: *[LOST INFO]* Shrek 4: The best ending for a trilogy of all time!

[@metademetra]

Here’s my question: Why should Arthur be king just because Shrek doesn’t want to? That sounds horribly unfair. In fact that’s the lesson Shrek *should* have learned! That he can’t just dump responsibilities on other people. And that he can still be autonomous, even when given a scary new position of power.

[@Kohchu]

Shrek actually runs into trouble with that; because he tries to convince Arthur, and Arthur likes it, until of course Donkey and Puss in Boots tell him about the danger associated with being a King. Then, he tries to get out of the situation, because he realizes there is danger and responsibility involved, and being a social outcast, he feels he can't handle it. Shrek is more interested in not wanting to be King, because he knows he isn't suitable for the job. Later on, when Shrek is saved from Prince Charming; he hands Arthur the crown, and tells him "It's yours, if you want it." And Arthur slowly accepts it. If Arthur hadn't accepted it; Shrek would've had to learn and adapt to the royal life; and the scenario might've been completely different. Still; it shows that Arthur slowly accepted it; he knows the risk, but he's more confident, and chooses to become the King.

[@vilwarin5635]

My question is, why is Shrek king when Fiona is the real heir to the throne? In real world Fiona would be Queen and Shrek consort.

[@literallygaston2489]

Nesseire That has always bugged me as well. That and the fact that Shrek doesn’t consider at all Fiona’s feelings about being the successor.

[@brittanys505]

@Kellie Carmichael he already did that thing too with metting fiona's parents

[@HumblePaysan]

He does learn that lesson. He says it at the end that the choice is up to Artie to take the crown or not. He takes it, but if he didn't, Shrek would have taken that responsibility.

[@TheMacroShow]

This is greatest Shrek video of 2019. You should be proud

[@GaryKetchum808]

Your videos are impressive, you must be very proud.

[@evilemu2599]

NOTICE ME

[@Microsoft-Excel-2010]

yet

[@tozbog1096]

Sheep is a timeless masterpeice

[@insertmemorableusernameher6795]

@@evilemu2599 *senpai please notice me

[@stares_mthrfckrly]

Shrek, Shrek 2 and Shrek Forever After only count. Shrek the 3rd is just a filler episode.

[@Jo-Wilbe-Dina]

You know something is wrong when the only good scene in a movie are 2 characters having a conversation on a deep and personal level and is actually really touching. Most kids would've imagined a good scene is where the climax happens like fight scenes, and lots of things happening, but nope, it's actually that one scene that we can relate to and feel a connection with it.

[@TheAnimationologist]

The worst part if all is that it says on the cover to Shrek The Third: The Best Shrek Yet!

[@cursedtails1249]

“Shrek the Third: The best Shrek yet” -some kid who was just born

[@derozerolel7522]

it is the best one

[@derozerolel7522]

@@cursedtails1249 quit smoking kid

[@madsceptictrooper6803]

DreamWorks must have added "The Best Shrek Yet!" onto the cover because people, who saw Shrek the Third, and even DreamWorks know it is the worst Shrek movie but people, who didn't saw it in theaters and would buy or rent in order to watch it, don't know how it sucks and DreamWorks wanted to convince and fool them to love Shrek the Third.

[@artistsanomalous7369]

I think it was a quote from Jonathan Ross. He also thought the same thing about Spider-Man 3. Maybe he's just strange like that.

[@pellonator]

Oh my god I'd repressed the image of donkey with the ogre baby face until now

[@Phantom914]

All I have to say is GET SHREKT THE THIRD

[@matthewstephen1257]

D A D A

[@restinpeas1284]

5 minute rewrite of this movie Throw out a majority of this plot Kill off the Queen instead of the King. Citizens won't follow a freaking frog king so he urges FIONA to take the throne. Push HER into the important role, with Shrek trying to still also be royal as sort of a king but mostly in an assisting role. Center the plot MORE around Fiona's new responsibilities. Maybe a lot of Far Far Away still have their biases against ogres, so in an effort to take control, CHARMING takes advantage of the unrest and maybe with the help of another villain, they start a civil war. Maybe Puss and Donkey get captured, maybe Shrek has to barricade the castle while angry people try to get in. And idk take it somewhere from there. It's a better setup than Shrek the Third, to have sort of a dangerous civil war going on, where one side loves Shrek and the other despises him, and villains using that to try to take control.

[@QQ-rx9xp]

Wow.

[@luigisme]

No

[@aarianasmith8122]

@@luigisme Yes

[@SunGodNika-bi2jr]

👏👏👏👏👏

[@zackisherep9246]

@@luigisme nOoOoOoO yOu CaNt JuSt HavE oPiNiOnS wAaAaHhHhH

[@Mr.Giegue]

*Shrek:A Great First Chapter.⭐* *Shrek 2:A Perfect Middle Chapter.🏆* Shrek the third:Diarrhea. *Shrek Forever After:A Beautiful Final Chapter.❤️*

[@Yoshimaniac]

i've waited all year for a new video. took you long enough

[@Quartzer.]

So you have waited 12 hours? Because as far as I know it's 11:43 am est on January 1st 2019.

[@Yoshimaniac]

Avi I always pay my taxes

[@greekfire7980]

@@Quartzer. You got the joke, congratulations. Where is this man's trophy?

[@MortyKai-h3s]

Hey not-real yoshi Hope you have a great new year

[@Eratas_]

haha no

[@mathiashauvgaard8857]

im not defending this fanfic but the fact that donkey went to college does make sense. kinda. at least if you follow the theory that donkey is a child turned into a donkey like in pinocchio. but im just trying to think of SOMTHING positive

[@joaquinm9148]

But that’s just a theory, A FILM THEORY!!!

[@mathiashauvgaard8857]

@@joaquinm9148 aaaand cut... And remember to get the newest theory wear on our shop or whatever he says😂

[@kimifw58]

"I'm a donkey. I was born outside." Also, the Pinocchio donkeys _can't_ talk. That's what makes their situation so scary.

[@reaganlaurel6688]

@@kimifw58 They used to be able to. Remember the scene where the people running Pleasure Island were checking if they could talk or not, so they could be sold to coal mines or circuses?

[@kimifw58]

@@reaganlaurel6688 _Yes. They can't talk. Anymore._ Unless you're saying he somehow escaped before losing that ability.

[@MistahJay7]

The way Prince Charming just seizes power out of no where bugs the hell out of me. Like why are the guards listening to him all the sudden ? Nothing made sense in the movie

[@disneytriviabuff8188]

Yes, that always weirded me out as well. It would have been very easy to close up that plot hole because Charming had TONS of black knights on his side so why didn't they just show them arresting/imprisoning the heroes?

[@georgeealien]

It's interesting that this is the one Shrek film that turned out so bad, because it was definitely the most hyped. DreamWorks marketed the hell out of it, they really believed it would be a huge hit.

[@MorganKing95]

Yeah, I remember seeing the posters with Shrek wearing royal clothes, and I thought it could be on the same level as Shrek 2 (which I loved and eventually watched a lot more than the original). But then I actually watched Shrek the Third and already got turned off by the extremely washed out colors, as well as the dull story and humor, and forgettable soundtrack

[@Aidenkun64]

Personally, I don't dislike Shrek the Third. But it is easily the worst Shrek movie. My Shrek Ratings since people are wondering Shrek: 8/10 Great Shrek 2: 8/10 Great Shrek the Third: 4/10 Disappointing Shrek Forever After: 8/10 Great (and my favorite) Dreamworks Top 5 to cause why the fuck not 5. HTTYD 3: 9/10 4. Kung Fu Panda: 9/10 3. Kung Fu Panda 2: 10/10 2. Megamind: 10/10 1. HTTYD: 11/10 Also, I've yet to see the cinematic masterpieces Over the Hedge, Rise of the Guardians, Chicken Run, Flushed Away, Abominable, Trolls 2, and literally every 2D Dreamworks film.

[@sonysfan19992]

Agree

[@mr.kevin1209]

Yeah, me too

[@dialupdave6276]

me too

[@barackobama651]

You cant hate shrek

[@chadarmstrong6991]

RetroNintendo THANK YOU!!!

[@flloop8178]

The woman who played Fiona in Shrek the Musical's world tour thing was a substitute teacher at my high school lol

[@AbareKillerFan-yo7pe]

That's really interesting

[@joeiorio9654]

Flloop You god

[@frickfrackfrog]

You surely don't mean Sutton Foster right?

[@Darkcyndermaya]

R/thathappened

[@Catchum]

DuskCynderMaya Eh, that’s kind of a reach. Small world y’know?

[@sketchyjulia]

The movie was actually supposed to be released later in 2007, but Jeffery Katzenburgh moved up the release date to May so that they could release the DVD by Christmas. So yeah it was rushed out and it’s main motivation was money

[@ms046]

So, the might have been decent. Probably not close in quality to Shrek 2, but perhaps a Shrek 1-level of quality.

[@1fromoutside]

soo...NOW almost every motivation for making movies and animation movies is money. and this is sad

[@jarahknuckey9064]

I have an idea for a rewrite of Shrek The Third: Part 1: What James mentioned Make the movie funnier. Make Prince Charming realize he isn't worthy of the throne. Make the new characters fucking matter more. Part 2: Change Shrek's fear, therefore changing the theme. Remember that part in Shrek 2 where King Harold said that line about "Presuming he doesn't EAT HIS OWN YOUNG"? What if instead of Shrek being afraid of babies, the news of Fiona being pregnant brought back PTSD of Shrek's own father, and instead of his fear being just a father, Shrek's afraid he'll be a terrible father like how he was raised, and that history will repeat itself? Doesn't that sound much more compelling than "uuuuh babi scary"? It would still be about love, but it would be about parental love and how even if emotions overwhelm you as a family, a love for a child and a love for family is unconditional? A movie about understanding the nature of love?

[@hue3446]

One of the worst things about Shrek the Third: Schools always play this one. They can’t just play a good movie?! Like I’d prefer to do my homework and not watch this movie?!?! School system what are you doing

[@punctuationman334]

Teachers always find a way to play amazingly lame movies.

[@markercrayon457]

Or they play an illumination movie that’s never despicable me 1

[@vanroyal244]

I haven't seen this movie since 1st grade I think...my school either plays historical movies or wall-e.

[@IcyDiamond]

My school played this movie lol

[@normadgarmez7026]

Only goes goes show that movies like S3 aren't the only joke around.