Why Skeledirge is the Best Non-Legendary in Ubers

[@mithreal1291]

We stan skeledirge in this maushold

[@55miniben]

that makes 2 dumb jokes in this comment section (so far)

[@MegaSpamziken1996]

​@@55minibenWhat do you mean There aren't any dumb jokes here

[@Ecl1pse_15]

Weepinbell stantler skeledirge inkay this maushold*

[@firewall5189]

​@@55minibenyour MOM is a dumb joke in this comment section (so far)

[@55miniben]

@@MegaSpamziken1996 my bad

[@asepsisaficionado7376]

Remember alolan-muk? I think he fell to RU at one point, yet he had a strange habit of making himself useful in every tier. He could check mewtwo, lunala, mega-gengar and even xerneas.

[@MarioWorlder123]

Poison/Dark is a very funky type, it can do a lot of things!

[@salakasto]

Before Calyrex-S was banned it was also the best check against that too.

[@doomknightsepulchure]

A-Muk was a C-rank mon in Ubers whenever it was viable. Also whoever said A-muk was the *best* check against caly-S is high on crack, because that is just false lmao

[@hippityhoppitymycommentisn6360]

It can tank 2-3 hits with AV and knock off which would do a lot to those mons not to mention the random poison touch activation makes it annoying against those psychic & ghost uber mons. Imo not the best Caly-S counter out there but it does its job.

[@asepsisaficionado7376]

@@doomknightsepulchure Checked SM ubers viability right now, alolan muk is listed as B- rank next to arceus-ghost and shaymin-s, though idk how outdated this is. Its usefulness is often matchup dependent, but knock off + poison touch can be surprisingly punishing for switch ins. Muk wasn't in gen 8 and doesn't have pursuit anymore so idk what it'd even do to caly-s in gen 9.

[@kanlalonde1356]

At the start, I was already thinking "I guess it's like quagsire?" and then you said "because of it's ability, unaware" and i went" SO, JUST LIKE QUAG..."

[@RainbowGod666]

DA QUAG

[@division6193]

@@RainbowGod666I love how when I translate your comment it becomes “DAMN”

[@pumas222]

Rosemary otp

[@RainbowGod666]

@@division6193 CAUSE ITS DA QUAG

[@susear5939]

The Quagsire theorem

[@tysondennis1016]

It’s so funny that Bidoof has three of the most broken abilities in the game.

[@brunop.8745]

That's the Bidoof diff

[@ThatBeePerson]

skeledirge is one of those pokemon who reminds you that you can't judge viability in a vacuum, a pokemon is made by it's relationship to it's competition

[@ExistingKirb]

Skeledirge said “Nah, Imma do my own thing.” and essentially skipped a tier straight to Ubers

[@gengarisnotinsmash...]

Dirge was a huge part of my best pre-home OU team, so when I heard it dropped to UU post home I was very sad. But hearing about how he's taking on titans in ubers is great, so let's give a hand for our favorite sounds-like-a-train alligator!

[@Mepphy99]

i thank the lord skeledirge dropped UU would be so bad without it

[@TayoAAdetola]

@@Mepphy99it’s ou again tho

[@maagic2031]

In my opinion it's still good in OU, it just has no usage because building defensive teams is way more trouble than it is worth right now.

[@CubeBizz]

Isn't Gastrodon another case of this? It bounced between PU and Uber because of its usage versus Kyogre

[@Jacob-df5hr]

The real rags to riches goat is Parasect

[@MyHandleIsAplaceholder]

Shuckle was Ubers and untiered in gen 8

[@Kevin-sn8pr]

you have to get banned from ou to be ubers, usage isnt enough

[@Mepphy99]

Gastrodon is a pu-Nu mon Who was a good niche in Ubers yes

[@salakasto]

Masquerain is another funny one. PU but also the best Sticky Web user. So you see it often in Ubers, and all it does is set Sticky Web then die.

[@slappydave4241]

Skeledirge is one of the top threats on my hit list when I play AAA It's like as important to me as Shedinja coverage in tiers where Shed is allowed

[@Detective_asparagus]

I absolutely love Skeledirge! Alligators are my favorite animal, and fire/ghost is my favorite typing, so it has definitely shot up to my favorite starter. Sadly I didn't use it much in the story because I got a Gholdengo before the league lol I'm happy it's getting the love it deserves!

[@mikroangel1922]

He is so good? I was unaware of it.

[@josemanuelromeroperez5112]

so was he

[@joaogomes9405]

I'm so glad the best starter in the series also happens to be really really strong, without the need for the charizard treatment of getting a super duper special unique gimmick for it

[@Chibispore]

Ain't that the truth, Charizard is like the nepo baby that gets everything handed to them by daddy whereas Skeledirge just wants to start an indie band with their phoenix best friend. Addendum: If Gen 3 OU Charizard is in the room, you get a pass for being a cool dood

[@Sakurasan2023]

Agreed

[@hershy1594]

Skeledirge is just like my boy quagsire

[@雪者]

Fuecoco fans eating good in Ubers

[@jman2050]

Skeledirge in UU is actually a war crime. Wouldn’t be surprised to see UUBL in its future, if not just rising back up when the OU meta gets shaken up again post DLC

[@benjaminh.5690]

Ever since Skeledirge's stats, typing and ability were reveled, I thought that it was Gamefreak's plan to help nerf Zacian

[@lilandch4rr]

that tera grass miradon solar beam into tinglu gameplay scene was absolutely fire

[@jblen]

Fuecoco was my first fire type starter. Ive never particularly liked any of the other fire starters except blaziken, but even then I still prefer mudkip and treeco. Im glad I broke my norm for such a good mon though, skeledirge was worth it.

[@chrisdixon7377]

I don't play competitively, but I thought skeledirge was overpowered for just a regular playthrough. Once I learned of torch song + throat spray. The already easy game became a walk in the park

[@Blugater]

It's true. It's the sole reason I didn't pick it for my starter. I went with sprigatito and in my 2nd playtrough I will pick the cat again

[@DarthFhenix55]

Skeledirge joins the club of better in Ubers than in it's original tier with Weavile.

[@DarthNoshitam]

Freezai: Any Pokemon with Unaware is inherently good Bidoof: 😇

[@diegomedina9637]

Didn't Bidoof also get Moody making it busted in Ubers?

[@DarthNoshitam]

@@diegomedina9637 yes, and Simple + Sword Dance or Curse isn't bad either

[@Slither.Wing.]

Never ask Skeledirge what their National dex number is

[@simonxl]

LMAO the tiny Tera hat on Calyshadow

[@doomknightsepulchure]

Maybe a video on Moltres next? Another historically lower-tier mon that has reached OU usage because its type combination matches up incredibly well against current OU's top threats

[@MrFilthyCasuaI]

Skeledirge doesn't have time for mortals in OU he's too busy fighting the uber gods

[@QuiqueZapata]

Great VOD! I hope we can get your recap of worlds soon. Looking forward to it!

[@newjumpcityjosh9333]

This is why I love Smogon rulesets/tiers. There are more opportunities for Pokémon to find a role.

[@nishantdayama4558]

What I'm finding funny is how all the Pokémon in A tier or higher are amazing largely due to their abilities (Minus Arceus forms, but still). And then there's the only poison type legendary Eternatus who has a largely useless ability pressure. Imagine if it actually had a good ability. Like why not levitate? It's a literal alien dragon. But if it had levitate I'm pretty sure it'd be S+ or atleast S tier. It'd be able to check both Arceus Ground and Arceus Fairy.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

I have loved this Croc ever since laying my eyes on it. Honestly unaware Skeledirge with nasty plot would be insane. I know it will go back to OU soon

[@fluffycat679]

He's become one of my favorite Pokémon, I honestly don't know how he got made, like, you're telling me there's ACTUALLY a person out there capable of creating something so perfect?

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@fluffycat679 Totodile is my favorite Pokemon overall so I knew I would love this mon

[@fluffycat679]

@@mandalorianhunter1 Wait, really? Dude Totodile's my favorite too! he was my first ever Pokémon in the games, my first ever Pokémon card, and my first ever best-est buddy!

[@ahkwaheart]

very wholesome thread :3

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@ahkwaheart I get that once in a while, others being toxic, trying to be correct or just a holish. I'm glad I got this one

[@MegaSpamziken1996]

Also the best gen 9 starter

[@azeria1]

At least all the starters are good this gen either ou or uu with skeil being extremely good in ubers

[@herhhetj5372]

Duck = UU Meowscarada - OU Skeledirge -Ubers

[@azeria1]

@@herhhetj5372 well technically skele is uu it's just really good in Ubers as well

[@herhhetj5372]

@@azeria1 isn't it much more used in Ubers than UU? I know usage doesn't mean you're Ubers but yeah.

[@azeria1]

@@herhhetj5372 yeah true I thought it was also really good in uu but it's not in the top 10 so I guess it's just average they

[@dokucroe3865]

Eat your heart out, Meowscarada. Skeledirge is still the best Paldea starter and it always will be.

[@aceoftrades4190]

Nice to see skeledirge finalky being useful playing through pokemon scarlet I noticed how weak he was (new player btw) so it'll be interesting to try him in ubers

[@shortcb]

So glad freezai is back. Sad that worlds was so dogshit but what can you do. Hopefully we get a vid about how you did at worlds

[@nicocchi]

In my humble opinion, a shitmon that has a niche use in Ubers is infinitely more interesting than a strong OU Pokémon that gets banned for being too strong. You gotta love the underdogs like Quagsire, Gastrodon, Ariados, etc. that have potential to be made into a KZbin video thanks to their sheer conversation-starting potential. "Hey do you remember that silly little goofy goober bug? Yeah he kills the alien space virus" Of course, Skeledirge isn't actually a shitmon, he's UU after all, that's basically the equivalent of being Uber in gen 3 or something, but you get the idea.

[@filmgamingandreview9137]

Dirge is the goat fr

[@fluffycat679]

MA BOI HE SUCCEEDS Extra note: I'm liking the fact that this means Skeledirge could become even better later on with some luck. Here's to hoping future matchups will forever be in Skeledirge's favor!

[@midnightemerald]

the quagsire successor

[@diegomedina9637]

There's always a starter that likes to sneak into Ubers each generation nowadays.

[@SuperNintendawg]

If I've learned anything from Pokemon over the years, it's that Unaware Pokemon will find a niche in higher tiers.

[@Sakurasan2023]

Skelidirge knows how to tank a lot of hits, even ones it is weak against. It hits hard as well. Definitely best starter in generation 9. It was my MVP in my first play through when i did a team of generation 9 starters. It destroyed Larry's gym once I used it on my second play through.

[@rixrobin]

5:13 that play was fire on the miraidons end

[@autismandgaming4532]

My boi made it to the legendary club :) Fuecoco fleet forever

[@akg054]

What do you mean Skeledirge isn't legendary? It literally has a phoenix on it.

[@remington238]

Buff idea: skeledirge has ho-oh on his snout and has the ability as one/ unaware+regenerator

[@marowakcity3727]

@@remington238 the words "as one/ unaware+regenerator" just inflicted psychic damage

[@cowhorse4146]

@@marowakcity3727 as one /(unaware+as one/(regenerator+as one/(magic guard+as one/(magic bounce+wonder guard))))

[@RainbowGod666]

ONCE THE FULL DLC VERSION OF VIOLET COMES OUT IM 100% GETTING YHE FIRE CROC THATS APPARENTLY A HORSE

[@55miniben]

The TRUE reason why skeledirge has got hight usage in UBERS is because it is unaware it's in ubers. Please laugh i know i'm not funny.

[@enoyna1001]

HAHAAAHAAAAHAAAAAAAA

[@ramongonga1876]

Damn you're so funny and sexy and successful

[@55miniben]

@@enoyna1001 thank you for laughing

[@cantbelieve5231]

Well you are unaware of your humor, don’t feel bad.

[@Mewseeker]

"Rejected to lower ranks for being useless, he find out he has a SSS rank cheat skill and fight gods!"

[@emblemblade9245]

Webtoons don’t you dare-

[@Mngalahad]

imagine when they make a legendary with 680 bst and with the ability "calmness" or something that is just rebranded unaware. edit: the new galapagos turtle with all types and therefore seemingly being "typeless" would make sense to get something like that

[@theimpersonator7086]

Knowing how powercreep works in Pokemon, Calmness would give Unaware benefits while also ignoring Stored Power Boosts

[@Jerome7-v5u]

And just for laughs, ignores all moves BP raising effects like elec, psy and grassy terrain, toxic boost, facade, technician, sharpness etc

[@looksfineforme9471]

​@@Jerome7-v5ureverse serene grace, ignores any bonus effect

[@fluffycat679]

@@Jerome7-v5u Let me guess, next you'll tell me it also functions as a better version of filter. Yeah right Pokémon would never make tha- Pokémon: "and now we'd like to introduce our latest creation, Arceus's dad, A-RC-eus, (the RC stands for "Really Cool") This dude does everything, heck, we had to scrap every pre-existing Pokémon for our new game just to balance him! And "balance him" is being generous!"

[@cowhorse4146]

@@looksfineforme9471 isn't that just good as gold. also adding on it also has wonder guard effects

[@66Roses]

"Any Pokémon with Unaware is inherently good." Swoobat: Hello. It's me.

[@toxagen1144]

Shoutouts to ditto in gen 1 being one of the worst pokemon in the game and having a niche in Ubers

[@lizzerd5112]

5:16 that was an epic play

[@laluna29461]

Can you do more videos like these where you go over pokemon in lower tiers that are better in higher tiers

[@alexdrake4081]

And then there’s Ferrothorn who’s spectacular in OU and makes its way into Ubers every now and then

[@iantaakalla8180]

Gen 8 Weavile was also like Ferrothorn

[@frossteax3086]

in my headcannon baskulegion is best non uber mon in ubers. scarf 600 power last respect is something to be scared of

[@ryans8081]

Guess this shows how good the ability unaware can be. Holding off some of the top Arceus forms, E-Killer and Fairy Arceus, and Zacian-C and Koraidon isn't something you see every day, even if it doesn't Terastalize. Quagsire was surprisingly effective in gen 8 ubers for the same reason, that is until Zacian got banned from the tier since having to run Unaware Quagsire just so Zacian wouldn't stomp your team was a bad restraint on teambuilding.

[@Hourglass36]

Freezai, Master of Outros is at it again

[@maxlimit9129]

tieracid's nicknames are based beyond belief good lord

[@glumreaper8885]

This video could also be summarized by the utter lack of strong fighting, steel, or fairy offensive threats. It will always be excellent in a tier that spams offensive steels and fairies.

[@lovingthepastpresentandfuture]

I’m sorry, Volocorona is in Ubers? What happened?

[@EpicLuL]

Tera

[@lovingthepastpresentandfuture]

Understandable have a great day

[@EpicLuL]

@@lovingthepastpresentandfuture u2 mate

[@Yethegoat10]

What I got from this is unban volc

[@notshockwavedemon7543]

Unaware just makes Skeledirge an Anti-Meta threat

[@ultlifeform]

My favourite older example of this is Shedinja. Shedinja was always a bottom tier Pokemon, but performed the best in ubers, as a surprisingly high percentage of the uber tier didn't typically run any moves that could hit it. If you could bait out and defeat the ones that could hit it early in the fight, Shedinja just became a "win by default."

[@snare97]

babe wake up, freezai just dropped

[@SJrad]

Shedinja, banned from ubers(nat dex) “Pathetic.”

[@roychaosreaper4688]

I think maybe Skeledirge will have the last laugh after DLC part 2 release and you know why.

[@Nutleaf420]

Uu on the simulator. Ubers in our hearts

[@nolanb134]

Please more randbats please. PS great video :)

[@MrJohnReviews]

Essentialy its Quagsire 2.0 except more fire and dread

[@Meteor-IV]

I feel bad for the guy that got hit by tera grass miraidon solar beam

[@fluffycat679]

Unrelated to Skeledirge, but y'know, I've spent all of this time viewing Genesect as this mythical, unobtainable prize, brilliant but never to be had. (which honestly just makes him the best "Mythical" out of all of them) But I've never stopped to ask: How IS Genesect in game? Is he any good? Is he any fun to use? As a long-standing Genesect lover who has only now made this realization I have so many questions that I need answers to.

[@i_like_chomp6382]

It shits on OU for a week until it's quickbanned without vote, then is irrelevant in Ubers. Been that way since Gen 5, they didn't even bother letting it in OU in Gen 9 lol

[@fluffycat679]

@@i_like_chomp6382 Well Darn. Thanks for informing me I suppose.

[@inclinebench]

@@i_like_chomp6382Genesect was S tier in BW2 Ubers btw.

[@i_like_chomp6382]

@@inclinebench IK then P-Don peed on it

[@vyktorehon5995]

What resisting zacian crown Stab and being immune to fighting does to a MF

[@stallsunguy3064]

5:17 bro my eyes were bleeding

[@BananaReidy]

Outside of Terastallizing it's typing has 5 weeknesses which isn't good, something Id avoid being anything beyond 4 weekness, but with wil o wisp it help get around that problem. On top of that with it's a huge amount hp and decent defenses to sponge damage as well.

[@discipleofshaun5252]

Awaiting more little cup

[@AM22Salabok]

5:14 can we talk about this play tho. That's ridiculous, I would just click x

[@anooslord666]

tbh ya it can be dangerous in some situations but not all

[@NathanRibeirodeFrancaYegrosFer]

Just saying, but I was stanning for Skeledirge since I knew his final form (yeah, before that I was weed cat team, but now I prefer fire croc)

[@kingzerko]

Skelegoat

[@jordanleighton6893]

There’s also people who bring no Ubers into Ubers and then get mad at you for bringing them. It’s hilarious

[@Mepphy99]

skeledirge stan rise

[@boop53]

YOU JUST GOT ‘DIRGED

[@vannoah]

any other exampls of this? i know gastrodon always popped up in vgc when kyoger was legal and id assume that gives him some neice in ubers when there are strong water types

[@danielhale1]

I love seeing a "low-tier trash" pokemon rise from UU or PU etc and make its name in Ubers. Imagine the scene: someone shows up with a mon that got laughed out of OU, and suddenly *literal gods* start sweating bullets and hyperventilating, trying to excuse themselves from the match like "oh you know what, I left a universe in the oven gotta go". Also sets up a wierd rock-paper-scissors situation where ubers can beat lots of OU, OU stomps skeledirge out of the tier, but skeledirge can thrash many ubers. On the personal side, Skelley was my pick when playing single player because I loved how the pre and final evolutions looked, and I stand by that choice even today. Happy to see Skelley still destroying gods and self-proclaimed gods. ^_^

[@DisastrousIntentionally]

In fairness, Skele is in no way low tier trash. Still a solid mon in OU and one of the best in UU. Just a mon that people aren't using right now cause of meta shifts. Skele will prob rise back to OU at some point.

[@danielhale1]

@@DisastrousIntentionally Ubers views all below them as low-tier trash :D But yea point taken! Happy to hear Skeledurge is doing alright

[@VegaPhil]

I only play national dex Ubers and this just isn’t it but I guess it’s probably ok in the more limited standard Ubers.

[@alexutzusan]

reminds me of mr fussili from courage the cowardly dog

[@Wafflefrieslmdh]

Thinking about getting into smogon. Should I?

[@thejackthecrafter8]

why i win most pokemon card battles:

[@StarshadowMelody]

that thing just _does not_ look like a final evo starter. also you didn't really talk about what it's like in UU I think?

[@LucasDarkGiygas]

Thanks for the video

[@windwaker0rules]

Because game freak cut anything better.

[@vdd1001]

Unaware pokemon dont care about tiers. Just look at my boy quagsire

[@FirstLastname604]

Further reason as to why we should unban zacian c. Just to see what happens you know?

[@potudolu3856]

Will there be more littlelocke

[@billettebutventi8821]

I wish the only way koraidon could beat skeledirge was band dragon moves…. Just pretend koraidon can’t tera and… it still can lose to wacky stuff like taunt but it would be better :D

[@ProboscusMonke]

You know. Ive loved skeledirge ever since I saw it revealed. Now i can clown on my friends because 1. Not furry bait (or at least easy furry bait lets be honest) 2. Competetively viable in OU

[@grunkleg.2934]

1:31 Kid named Swoobat

[@BannedfromOUin5secs]

Last respects

[@tomtournillon3768]

Another example of an actual terrible Pokémon that fares well in Ubers depending on the generation is Shedinja. In gen 3, Shedinja is nowhere to be seen in standard play because of Tyranitar and its sandstorm that instantly KOs it, and the prevalence of spikes in pretty much every tier. But in Ubers, Tyranitar isn't a problem at all, and spikes aren't as common; furthermore, Shedinja completely walls top threats like Kyogre and Latios. Same thing in gen 8, as Shedinja doesn't need to worry about entry hazards thanks to Heavy-Duty Boots, and it still walls Kyogre, as well as newer additions like Zygarde-Complete and Zacian-Crowned. Granted, in both cases, it won't be as useful as Skeledirge, and it's very tricky to use, but with proper support this is a win condition.

[@crocodilerex9154]

my boy

[@RFDN0]

I am honestly curious which will have more representation in VGC with restricted mons. Incineroar or Skelidurge.

[@azeria1]

Depends on what moves are taken from incin

[@jacksonbranby]

Incin and it won’t be close lol, unfortunately

[@Milesprowerthegamer]

@@jacksonbranby I mean, Incin's moveset could get gutted for all we know. If it loses moves like Parting Shot, Snarl, and U-turn, then it loses a huge part of what made it good and at that point there are probably better choices of Intimidate Pokemon to use.

[@Gspoink]

​@@Milesprowerthegamerif it still get fake out it will still be s tier. Look at arcanine.