Why Snow Day is a DISAPPOINTING South Park Game

[@Johnny2Cellos]

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[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

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[@noobsysys]

hey johnny wheres Johnny3Cellos?

[@jessegartung294]

Saw the good times trailer?

[@BabysitterSky]

​@@EdwardEstacadoawww the troll wants attention. Adorable.

[@FTZPLTC]

@@EdwardEstacado Those clowns in Congress are at it again - what a bunch of clowns!

[@DainnGreywall]

Telling me that Stick of Truth came out 10 years ago really fucking hurt my sense of time... that game feels like it's at most 5 years old.

[@smeegy1]

It makes sense. It looks like an episode the the graphics are essentially timeless.

[@thewhitewolf58]

​@@smeegy1As much as I like realistic graphics I do have to say that they age fast while cartoon graphics do not age as long as the quality is good because they are not trying to mimic real life on limited hardware.

[@unusualusername8847]

It's not even being pirated by anyone.

[@exterminans]

Wow, time passes, imagine that!!!

[@Xoulrath_]

It looks like a 20 year old game to me. Perspective is weird. 😂

[@Wraithfighter]

Stick of Truth was developed by Obsidian Entertainment, a studio that tends to put out creative, well-written games that can be a bit buggy at times (might be a mild understatement). Fractured But Whole was developed internally by Ubisoft, a company that, while over-reliant on the Open World Checklist formula, has a lot of great developers with a ton of experience. Snow Day was developed by Question LLC, who have released only one other game, a survival horror game in 2019 that doesn’t even have its own Wikipedia page. The difference in quality is not shocking.

[@MintyLime703]

It's really not that bad being a game adaptation of a show developed by a team nobody knows anything about. It could've been absolutely awful but I think it goes to show how much influence Matt and Trey had over the game that it still feels like South Park and has a competent gameplay loop, even if it's a bit boring.

[@louised2818]

@@MintyLime703I agree!

[@texdillinger6173]

Ubisoft, company who sold tutorial to Fractured but whole as a seperate 2 dollar DLC..

[@Supermonster002]

Who made phone destroyer (if that can be counted for anything)

[@AlryFireBlade]

Wow maybe I am too biased, because I only enjoyed Stick of Trueth, but it shows. The first was the best. The second was still good, but more like a checklist product and the third is the downfall. Ditching anything that made the first 2 Games good. I hope it was just an experminet that failed, and if we get a 4th game, it will be in the old style again.

[@Aidencaptain]

You know the more I think about it, if they wanted to do a 3D South Park game, they could’ve taken inspiration from the Paper Mario series in terms of exploring. The character could’ve been walking around as flat paper while the environments around them could’ve been made out of paper or cardboard.

[@DaRealBruner]

Exactly like South Park's season 17 intro. It's such a shame they didn't think of that.

[@shr1mpys]

is that kinda exactly what the first two games were?

[@Michael-bn1oi]

​@@shr1mpys No. They were not full 3d spaces

[@kapcapkapcap6104]

They should of used a toon shader

[@shr1mpys]

@@Michael-bn1oi oh i get what you mean. mb ive never played paper mario

[@rickitysplitz7035]

Thhe previous two games have replay value, this game doesn't have much content to really be content with. The Fractured but whole gave 40 plus hours of experience with the DLCs and the Stick of Truth is good for pulling an all nighter.

[@ZaKRo-bx7lp]

The random drops are nice, but I don't think I'll be replaying this unless there's a new update

[@inferior3199]

I wish you would elaborate on what you mean with replay value. Besides choosing a different class the playthrough won't be much different from your first one. I would maybe replay it after a year or two passes so it isn't as fresh on my mind. Most of the quests have one way to beat them and the characters don't make new jokes. I also think this game is underwhelming, but can we stick to accurate criticism? The only thing I could agree with is the lesser amount of content and which we can assume might be added with continuous patches and DLC.

[@Michael-bn1oi]

@@inferior3199 You not agreeing with them doesn't make their critcism inacurate. It just makes you a dick for saying it does.

[@ThatLilmenace]

It just released 😂 what do you expect

[@Laughingyeen-00]

Not for me cause I’m still stuck on fracture but whole spontaneous bootay

[@Clickificationist]

if they wanted to do a 4 player coop fighting game, they could have kept the 2d aesthetic and did a Castle Crashers style beat em up

[@Sarahm2261]

that would be nice, especially as the four boys.

[@ngcwiz1755]

​@Sarahm2261 seeing how major the new kid is and how all games are cannon to each other leaving the New Kid out would suck.

[@Donovarkhallum]

​@@ngcwiz1755could have Kenny be dead /some zombified boss enemy. Then it could be the new kid and the other three boys.

[@ngcwiz1755]

@@Donovarkhallum Quite literally just explained the end of the first game😑

[@Donovarkhallum]

@@ngcwiz1755 yeah what's your point? One moment not another game can be a thematic element for a new game. It works since you would want too fit. New kid into that 4 player. Maybe you could take out Stan and have him be having relationship issues with Wendy. But I don't think you could take out Cartman or Kyle.

[@combatmantis4393]

This game feels like it was meant to be Live Service/Multiplayer only.

[@DamonAkuma92]

I thought that's what it was going to be. I knew something was wrong when I didn't even know this game was out and steam only told me in a pop up it wasn't even trending lol.

[@nappacef3734]

That’s what it is isn’t it?

[@Druid-T]

​@@nappacef3734 No, it's essentially a 3D brawler with co-op. There's no PvP whatsoever

[@nappacef3734]

@@Druid-T oh my bad! So you just do the same five levels over again? I assumed there’d be some like BR of some type or something you could do afterwards aha

[@GothPaoki]

It is live service.

[@seth96mills]

The fact the game was sold as “Multiplayer” you can’t cross play or couch co-op

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

Oof.

[@heehoopeanut420]

this is actually one of the most infuriating things to me, I hate it so much when games do that!

[@kylespevak6781]

Still multiplayer

[@izanagi3366]

​@@fitzwits tf u mean nobody plays couch coop anymore? When I have my friends over of course we play couch coop! It's a way more enjoyable experience to play together without headsets and all that bs

[@thebighoney9034]

@@izanagi3366 Dude probably doesn't have any irl friends

[@Deckscavate]

Sadly it is. The other 2 were longer and felt more immersed

[@seanmcloughlin5983]

Unlike the others this one (and most of the specials tbh) really feel like they were made out of contractual obligation. They were given almost 1 billion dollars and told to make something you could put in stores and buy, and boy did they make something you can put and stores and buy.

[@jsb7778]

​@@seanmcloughlin5983Snow Day wasn't part of that contract. It was a deal with Paramount+ for 14 movies. The only time it was mentioned in reference to the contract was them explaining what they wanna spend the money from said contract on (this & a weed business).

[@warforge3850]

South Park hater

[@bobbyshewan4229]

@@seanmcloughlin5983I vehemently disagree about the specials but I’m kinda with you on this game. I don’t think it looks awful but I personally don’t see myself getting into it

[@WaituSnaiku]

​@@warforge3850?

[@ihmen]

It's been confirmed that this was supposed to be a remake of the south park N64 game but halfway through development the higher ups told them it needed to be a new stand alone game. That's why the game feels rushed and has no polish.

[@goatsoup]

source for this?

[@RandomStunt]

i guess they nailed the n64 part by making it bad

[@AwesomeLaggy]

Confirmed by who??

[@iluvchess14736]

@@RandomStunt i read that in jimmy's voice for some reason

[@mulqueen2023]

Honestly Matt and Trey can just live out their days doing whatever they wish, they've done so many things, achieved plenty, a decades long running show, a movie, multiple games, a large fanbase, a music career etc. Like they've legit done a bit of everything, it's truly admirable how multi talented they are.

[@Michael-bc3es]

They are legit comedic geniuses and way more insightful than they get credit for. Their latest special was incredible too.

[@LZ2ME]

Right, they can do whatever they want-but they chose to release a pretty poor quality product. People are allowed to be bummed and criticize.

[@GothPaoki]

Yea they have done all that but that doesn't absolve their new projects from criticism. Especially when they intent to milk it with live service mAnd that particular one is very poor

[@Michael-bc3es]

@@GothPaoki criticize it all you want. I just think it's ok to screw up sometimes especially if you have a long history of delivering the goods.

[@mhead1117]

Such a weird comment to make on this vid 😂

[@boygame1955]

I wish they made a game based of the episode "Fun times with weapons" Cool weapons to fight foes with, seeing the all characters get cool ninja design's & add some metal gear stealth sections.

[@ryanfolsom8851]

I was really hoping that the third game was going to be just that. It's extremely unfortunate that they dropped the ball so hard after SoT and FBH.

[@klaushassen3954]

​@@ryanfolsom8851 what also happened to the star wars parody teaser with fractured but whole ending

[@dragmire3D]

19:18 - So, in Stick of Truth, the stick 'allows the wielder to control the universe'. What that meant for their game was that if you had the Stick, you made the rules. Fights in the land of Zaron always seem to involve the rules.

[@delphoxqueen5595]

What I was expecting when they said a “3D game” was something like Danganronpa V3 with a 3D world you can walk around in during “free periods” with 2D characters and intractable objects. I don’t hate Snow Day, but it just felt like a kind of generic action game with South Park smacked on top.

[@Multi-Waves_Music]

Why v3 specifically? Thats kind of embedded in the dna of the entire series

[@delphoxqueen5595]

@@Multi-Waves_Music I mentioned V3 because the navigation system for 2 is slightly different and I haven’t played 1, and UDG is kind of a third-person perspective

[@Multi-Waves_Music]

@@delphoxqueen5595 oh yeah that's true super Danganronpa was different idk why I forgot about that!

[@kayagorzan]

I’m still waiting for a game styled after Good Times with Weapons

[@Mr3DLC]

Hell yeah. feels like the natural evolution

[@haileybalmer9722]

Oh man. You know it's gotta be bad if Johnny's saying so in the title of a video. You're really great at meeting projects where they're at. You're the King of Silver Linings.

[@Johnny2Cellos]

I think I still give it a fair shake! I was just very disappointed

[@henr5189]

​@@Johnny2Cellos I have not seen the review yet, but you have definitely been plenty fair during the whole process since the game was announced. You have generally shown yourself to be fair in terms of trying to stay optimistic upon the changes and not letting the internet's first gut reaction to the game sway you into hating the game, before anyone even knew, how it was gonna be.

[@CrobatmanIamthenight]

All they had to do was ninjas

[@dnmstarsi]

Except that they weren't into the idea of that plus that deserves its own RPG, not a game like this. LOL

[@Michael-bn1oi]

@@dnmstarsi Obviously OP meant as a true RPG sequel.

[@leeweesquee]

Once the paramount contract is over, they may....

[@Randomonium66]

That season pass is gonna set records for lowest selling add ons.

[@MattboyGenius]

I WISH they would try to do a story like this as a paramount special or episode. The current event commentary has been getting kind of .. stale? Maybe not not stale but definitely shallow. They need to go back to doing some character driven stuff once in a while.

[@majestyzx9081]

As big as South Park is, it's still a "niche property" for video games. Multiplayer focused games need a healthy player base. Tying your multiplayer game to a fixed fanbase by using an existing IP is an initial boon to the playerbase, but has been shown time and time again to fail in the long-term because the potential for growth is tied exclusively to that IP. Heavily limiting the growth potential of the game and community.

[@StickNMove1040]

I feel like the only thing this game suffers from is lack on content, it felt a lot like Minecraft dungeons if anyone’s played that, fun but can get repetitive fast with the lack of gameplay variety.

[@ratsquireofscrap6081]

Literally, this. The game isn't BAD, just clunky and limited. It's not GOOD but it COULD be if they had MORE.

[@milesmohrien8964]

i think their heads were just in the wrong place, the first thing i think of when i think of a south park game is the ability to explore the town in an open world. this game was never gonna work

[@CommonMrB]

I agree with all of these comments too and would probably add that the lack of content really is a huge problem because of how heavy the storylines were in the past two games. While it would have taken much longer, if they had as much content/writing as the past games it would have really made this hack and slash game so much better. I also believe that the lack of weapons really makes this hack and slash game very eh.. especially because I feel there is only one or two weapons that feel relevant when playing.

[@Jynxxx5]

Minecraft dungeons but with swearing and fart jokes

[@dbay22]

Honestly I genuinely like this game. I just wish there was at least triple the content 🤷‍♀️

[@casualcouch9459]

Butters dikinbaus hot dogs or pimp days would be a hilarious restaurant style management game

[@dafunk4431]

That’s what they should have done. Everyone against the new kid. Becoming the Clyde of stick of truth

[@typicalCosmologist]

couldve played off of Professor Chaos telling you to "let your darker side free" at the end of the Fractured Butt Whole by literally making the New Kid into the villain. Don't know if you'd still play as them and how the story would progress and whatnot, but it would be really interesting imo

[@_CENSOR3D_]

Best part of Snow Day was getting my refund

[@annpc5284]

This game had a massive missed opportunity on not allowing couch coop. The main reason my sister bought this game was because it was multi-player. But then we learned it's only online coop

[@CrazyAmy200]

When Cartman says "If anyone's been a piece of shit, it's been us." I think he should of changed "us" to "Kyle" coz it's Cartman so him saying "If anyone's been a piece of shit, it's Kyle" would of been funny.

[@Onigirli]

Agreed, though I think you should also change "should of" to "should have" yourself

[@WeirdSmellyMan]

Atleast we still have the first 2 games 🤷‍♂️

[@enciekelley4566]

They could’ve made a hilarious South Park dating sim where the whole school starts being obsessed with a “power couple” and it turns into a huge status competition and u have to navigate it like a choose your own adventure. Depending on who u talk to the most and what u say different events get triggered, Cupid cartman can be a big antagonist by making couples cheat and switch around a bunch, making it that much more chaotic, and the climax is that eventually all the parents start getting invested and the entire town becomes obsessed with the “best couple” only for them to break up right after the game ends. Instead we got fortnight but with snowballs and weeble wobbles.

[@slywhemwick8071]

Honestly that would be kinda hilarious; sorta like a combo of South-Park Fractured movement, Stick of Truth’s combat and flavor and world BUT have something like Monster Prom’s system for the ‘dating’ part and have New Kid be a counter to a ‘Cupid Cartman’ as he continues to manipulate the town as New Kid tries to either side with Prof. Chaos Butters being a villain or just rolling with the punches still and helping everyone out. Maybe even have the finale be the New Kid using their Social Media powers to manipulate everyone to think Cartman is the best and have them constantly look at Cartman thinking ‘he’ll do something interesting soon’ so he can’t physically disrupt the relationships anymore without his scheme being revealed.

[@clownpieceenjoyer5439]

WHATEVER YOUR SMOKING; I WILL HAVE IT. THIS CONCEPT MADE ME SPIT OUT MY WATER LMAO

[@annonimors2811]

That is such a good idea man, chheeeezzz I wish they could see this

[@donnyhere2419]

Dude theyre kids

[@isav7305]

@@donnyhere2419 On the contrary, I actually think this could work since there was a whole episode where the town went crazy over shipping Creek

[@rainbowphoenix1363]

I really hope that the next RPG is about their anime personas that seems like a great idea to parody JRPGs specifcally

[@Jaquan018]

Just like they did with Stick of Truth and Fractured but Whole? I'll be honest here the games had much more in common with JRPGS at the time than any western cRPG we were getting. Shocking, I know.

[@channel45853]

@@Jaquan018 cRPGs are not trying to be JRPGs, so what are you even trying to say?

[@andrewwallis1803]

Should’ve had it where it was you playing as the main cast instead of “THE NEW KID” and have you fight chickens , throw snowballs , and other entities…

[@Cleveland.brownjunior]

I played the game with my friend and at first we had a blast, it was honestly so fun to just play with your friends but the problem is that we beat it in only seven hours so we didn't have anywhere else to go in the game but it was really fun so ima say 7/10

[@gracekim1998]

I’m glad you had fun too 😊

[@Donovarkhallum]

You didn't get bored with the repetition? It never added anything new.

[@n0t_creek]

@@Donovarkhallum when playing with friends i dont think its a big problem

[@JMD_Ikonix]

Saw a comment saying they made this game mid on purpose because matt and trey didnt have full creative control since it was a contractually obligated game. Thats def some matt and trey shit to pull, heres hoping the next game is a true return to form.

[@AxelWedstar411]

I wasn't expecting a 3rd RPG, but I wasn't expecting this either.

[@jjojehong]

matt and trey shouldve pulled the plug on this like they did with their gameboy game. we couldve had another mary kate & ashley game instead of this stinker

[@chillbillxxx123i40]

The last 2 games were ideas of Trey this one was the idea of Matt.

[@chillbillxxx123i40]

And The game was very mild on jokes only there being like 5 jokes.

[@markointhesky]

The dlc outfits and the fact it was apparently part of the paramount contract makes me think they might not have been able to do that even if they wanted, or that paramount might have meddled during its development Then again I also heard that while the rpg focus was to the taste of one half of Matt and Trey, this third person shooter-esque style is more to the other half's taste, so the state of the game isn't entirely paramount's fault, if they meddled at all Hopefully this is a learning experience, if nothing else

[@New3DSLuigi364]

@@markointhesky Yeah; DON'T F*** WITH THE FANS' EXPECTATIONS; OR ELSE YOU'LL GET REVIEW-BOMBED AND BE AS POORLY RECIEVED AS THE PREVIOUS 3D SOUTH PARK GAME THAT EVEN MATT & TREY THEMSELVES HATED!!

[@polocatfan]

​@@New3DSLuigi364not a review bomb to say the game is bad...

[@BoyBlunder66]

Honestly, I like the idea of a 3D open-world South Park RPG, it just needed a better and more experienced team to make it.

[@firerun777]

I want a Let's Fighting Love themed game

[@claytonrios1]

At least the kids accurately showed what happens when someone they're playing with becomes impossibly OP. The games cease to be fun when that happens.

[@Duskool]

Honestly instead of using four random kids as your companions if you don't have anyone to play, they should've used the secondary characters. Since this is the Fantasy version of the characters the only we have used in SoT was Jimmy, so it would've been cool to have him back alongside Tolkien, Craig, Tweek, Clyde and Timmy. Hell, also include some of the more underused ones like Kevin and even the girls, cuz some of them got Fantasy skins in Phone Destroyer

[@iagosplace]

meh i’m gna get it still and decide for myself, seems like everyone’s mainly just bummed it’s not an rpg again but ive always actually been intrigued in the gameplay of this one

[@gracekim1998]

Good call

[@bubsimodragon]

I was so disappointed by this 😞 especially when you realize it’s probably the final South Park game

[@daelen.cclark]

How do you figure?

[@Tweekerss_678]

I doubt it honestly, I’m pretty sure there will be another

[@bubsimodragon]

@@daelen.cclark because people believe that season 30 will be the final South Park season. And it’s unlikely that they will make a South Park game in that timespan, or after the series ends.

[@barneythepurpledinosaur7002]

Just because they got renewed to season 30 doesn’t mean it ends on season 30, the whole reason season 27 is taking so long is because disputes between Paramount and HBO.

[@rockinreggie2165]

What I’m scared of is the network won’t let the IP die. South Park will be the next Simpsons, or God forbid, Family Guy. So we might get more SP games, but they will make Snow Day look like RDR2.

[@jacksonhopp2003]

Why am I getting the feeling that Snowday would’ve worked as an apocalyptic rpg setting. Like making fun of the post Apocalyptic genre as a whole like they did with fantasy and superhero stuff. Course I’m just talking out of my ass and throwing ideas at the wall.

[@bubsimodragon]

What were they talking about when they said you can’t do multiplayer with the 2D artstyle. I know nothing about game development but how is that possible?

[@willza0112]

it's not that you *can't* do it, it just becomes quite difficult, especially for this style of beat 'em up game. Think about games like hollow knight or any other metroidvania (though not necessarily beat 'em up's, similar style of gameplay loop), then imagine it with 3 other people flying around the screen. I imagine it would become very chaotic very quickly.

[@CountCalcium]

@@willza0112aren’t there literally those side scrolling co op beat-em up games

[@mr_selfdestruct]

​@@CountCalcium Yes. The answer of it being "hard" sounds like a copout.

[@Dezatron-]

The game lacks story, in my opinion, compared to the other two games, as well as theres many questionable things for gameplay. One is range weapons. Two, servers are questionable, and playing solo is not as fun because theres not as many things that you could try. Like when starting a mission, if you have friends or whatever, everyone gets a choice for bs cards, and it allows for more chaos. The last thing is that they should have more customization in everything. From clothes to cards so we could have more fun with the game instead of being so restricted.

[@notster7114]

I think they probably made this game underperform on purpose since it was a contractual obligation and they probably didn't have the level of creative freedom they wanted and they chose to make it look so different from the other games because they wanted to seperate it from the quality of the main south park games and presumably the next game, if there ever is one, will return to the original style and be made with the creative freedom and quality that they want to put into these games

[@rubyy.7374]

I had a stroke reading this

[@matti.8465]

Or maybe they just wanted to make a different kind of game, rather than doing the same thing for a third time.

[@BlitzDemonGamer3032]

Well as a South Park fan I'd didn't found South Park Snow Day to be that disappointing nor do I not agree with the IGN rating of 3 out of 10 I'd gave it 6 out of 10 an okay game game at best

[@lydiahaynes41]

Ok imagine if they made another rpg and it goes something like this "ok new kid here's the deal we're going back to turn based games because apparently some people didn't think that trying to do a different thing was fun I mean I thought it'd be super cool to play this especially with friends but they complained that it was too short or that it was jn 3D we just wanted to try something different for once I guess we should just stick with this style"

[@New3DSLuigi364]

Yeah; WHERE WAS THAT VILLAIN ARC FOR NEW KID THAT WAS FORESHADOWED AT THE END OF THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE?!!!

[@lydiahaynes41]

@@New3DSLuigi364 I said that when I took and spent the dark matter to become more powerful

[@Donovarkhallum]

I hate meta

[@eatatjoes6751]

That’d be awesome and I hope they keep that resentment going.

[@New3DSLuigi364]

@@eatatjoes6751 Considering what a bunch of Pr1cks the Main Quartet of South parks are to the New Kid. . . I Want to see them basically get the point across that THEY'RE TIRED OF BEING THEIR B1TCH; AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE; And thus the Villain Arc foreshadowed by Professor Chaos will come to pass; in the TRUE Follow-up to TFBW[which I STILL Refuse to Acknowledge Snow Day as; since it's basically just a remake of the n64 Shovelware game that has the dishonor of being the VERY 1st South Park Video game of all time(I Wish that Stick of Truth WAS the first one; and Not THAT disasterpiece that even Matt & Trey themselves hated all those years ago)]

[@gamingsheepy6981]

Idk why people are disappointed when the game looked bad since reveal. The art direction itself, or rather, the lack of it, was a big red flag

[@WyattD03]

Both you and LS Mark upload a Snow Day video on the same day, we are truly eating good tonight

[@Jynxxx5]

I was super hyped for it since the team seemed so dedicated to it in teaser videos, but then I started playing and was…very confused. I’m currently on the part where you have to set some stuff on fire but it’s so time limited and if you walk into snow it disappears, so I stopped and just replayed FBW. Lol. I had so much hope for them and didn’t mind them trying a new genre but I think they’re best at 2D RPGs

[@richardgregory3684]

The episodes are semi-randomised, so if you quit and start it again, the task will be different. Yah I hated that "feat of strength" too so I just rolled the dice for a different one.

[@Jynxxx5]

@@richardgregory3684 episodes? You mean levels?

[@richardgregory3684]

@@Jynxxx5 They're chapters in the story line, so I called them episodes.

[@eunnie-ae]

Such a good review! I’ve read other comments on the game writing it off as bad purely bc it’s 3D or bc of its alternative gameplay style vs the previous RPG mechanics (which I understand will cause inevitable disappointment for long time fans like myself who LOVED previous games) - so I appreciate hearing your thoughts on specific qualities in addition to the visuals and gameplay itself, like the world environment, storyline, progression, etc. I couldn’t agree more that the world feels a bit disjointed as far as dialogue and side quests/story arcs go. Would’ve loved more opportunities for exploration! I think you’re probably right that they aimed for replay-ability on this one too, with tweaking your combat style and skill tree - but when the actual gameplay is so repetitive, I’m afraid the incentive to run again just isn’t there for me, personally. It may not be my cup of tea (I’m biased for RPG) but at least we can respect the consistent artistry of the SP creative team! Thanks for the interesting review! Your hard work is appreciated! c:

[@bcccccccc]

they could’ve made it 3d while also maintaining the aesthetic of the show.

[@npcimknot958]

Ya like the paper textures.. would have helped lot.

[@WhispyWoodz]

Lol since when do you need 3-D in order to do multiplayer and they never seen co-op Mario co-op, Zelda or 2-D fighting games

[@uhok6712]

Tbh for $30? Wasn’t the worst. That being said I would have gladly paid $70 for a better South Park game. Hope this doesn’t discourage them, the other two games were really fun and interested and I would enjoy more South Park gaming content. Hoping the dlc that drops later will add a lot of new fun

[@Saitken]

This is what you get when you have a contractual obligation instead of an idea you feel passionate about.

[@freddyfrago2023]

I LOVE THIS GAME.The snow,the carachters,ppl hate this game because they expect gta 6 from every single videogame came out.Just relax and play in the snow guys

[@Thatonegirl989]

I’m so sad to hear this, I was really hoping it would be good.

[@gracekim1998]

I suggest trying it yourself

[@Thatonegirl989]

@@gracekim1998 I’m planing on it. I just wanted to see how some people felt about it because I’m not a huge fan of this type of gameplay

[@FlasKamel]

I agree with all of this but I also have some smaller yet important (to me) issues like... It's been this long and we still haven't seen Tegridy Farms in a South Park game. Where's DikinBaus? I actually loved the graphics, and exploring South Park was my favorite part of the game - I wish we'd AT LEAST get more of THAT.

[@FlasKamel]

Also, honestly: This felt more like a "snow day" game than a South Park game, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was their approach. Maybe they were feeling a bit nostalgic.

[@novadantes4850]

should've done it like an actual tabletop game like DnD and have the spaces 3d made from cardboard like back in the early 90s drawing and cutting them out for set pieces then having the characters as tokens (making the combat 2 or 3d turn based) or go paper mario route Lol, call it castles and cun*s or co*ks Coz yknow BG3 a p big deal to the point its a plot point in the panderverse

[@chasestanek430]

The fact that they could have made a game that was based on when they played ninjas and then didn’t take it makes me Irrationally angry. Like even if they kept this style of game, and just made it with more content and more replay value it would of been so cool to me and they could of changed the card system to a weapon based skill tree system so that every weapon gave you multiple different options(an example would be the ninja stars you could either use them as ranged weapons, or lose the dps but impale someone’s eye and get them as like a dog companion) like they had such cool ideas and didn’t take them like bro😭😭

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

And agreed. Hope the next one is a sequel to fractured.

[@Jaquan018]

This one technically is the sequel to fractured. Quite literally considering they didn't ease off on the "Blame New Kid for everything but keep demanding they help you"

[@SuperSaito9001]

Honestly I didn't really like the final boss fight but I did notice that while the boys don't exactly help you directly they do help by aiming the spotlights on the boss. Stan, Kyle, and Cartman can be found using the spotlights that are in the trees while Kenny drops TP into the fight. (Idk if this random but I also found Wendy and Tolkien using the spotlights too)

[@km-js7ws]

thank god i didn't have any expectations after I saw the first gameplay trailer for it. This turned exactly out as anticipated, same with Suicide Squad.

[@NoForksGiven]

So many games have a disappointing third game It always goes like this: 1. First game released. It has issues but the core concept leads to it being a success 2. Second game released. Polishes gameplay and expands on the first in many ways 3. Third game release. Complete revamp of the formula into something no one asked for. WHY? I know they said they were burnt out after making the first two games but try that with a new IP. Don't ruin the series people already like. You can make spinoffs, it's fine

[@THESCUMMBAR]

I saw the interview where Matt Stone mentioned they were "tapped out" after the last two games. As soon as he said it, I was thinking "Oh boy, Snow Day is gonna suck."

[@lhfirex]

I get that they wanted to make it a live service game, but these games almost always feel like they launch with not nearly enough stuff to do as a video game, trying to get you to keep checking in on it later. It would have been a lot better to delay this release until the new season of the TV show was coming out so they could have more stuff to do and content updates ready to go.

[@Cifer77]

I couldn't figure out what exactly you even do in the newest game until I started watching gameplay videos after release.

[@Vic-mj4ts]

NOOOOOO I WAS WAITING FOR YOUR REVIEW HOPING EVERYONE ELSE WAS JUST WRONG ABOUT IT NOOOO

[@ItzzzBeamo]

The “nooooo”s in this, I read like Cartman.

[@wahoobidy4912]

Like, i genuinely hope they add alot of freed dlc later to make up for how little there really is. Like imagine if the new kid got a backstory like them being a shape-shifting robot from the center of the earth or something

[@LazarheaD]

You can't top Stick of Truth's 10/10

[@SerafineSilverstream]

I really hope thy can put a bit more meat onto this game's bones over time, it feels very lackluster in the story and humor departments that defined the previous games.I don't care for the graphical style but this feels more like a random coop multiplayer game in a south park dress than an actual south park game. About Roseanne Barr - considering just some days ago she held a speech during a fundraising event for Kari Lake where she accused Democrats of worshipping the devil and eating babies (yes, really, she actually said that) and advised people to drop out of college because "it'll ruin your lives" (who needs education anyways, right?) I don't think it's time to forgive and forget. If anything, she got worse.

[@thehappyaipom]

Im not a giant south park fan as it is which is why this game was decent in my books. I enjoyed the wave spawn and rogue like gameplay, but fully see how this probably ostriscized itself from both past game fans as well as core series fans

[@danielbloomquist9810]

Mr 2Cellos, that you still so lovingly suggest viewers check out your trip to Casa Bonita, which I have, makes me smile the most wholesome of smiles. Clearly, we are of the same mind. I wanted to ask after your experience with tabletop board gaming because as is well known among fans at this point, Trey is an unashamed board game dork, as am I. I wanted to know how you felt about the card system because to me, I could feel Trey's fingerprints all over that aspect. Like, you just KNOW my dude owns multiple expansions for Dominion.

[@SoranotRoxas]

I knew it from the trailer 😅

[@DeanIrvine]

This entire game scream studio interference and live service bs. Saw it today for the first time and was amazed it’s only going for £25 brand new that set alarm bells off. And I was right the fact it needs a constant internet connection and PlayStation plus to play it tells me all I need to know. Shame the trilogy died on its arse I’ll just replay stick and fractured again.

[@wojtek1765]

5 mission is let down too

[@MintyLime703]

I know they did 3D for the coop idea but I think they could've pulled off a Castle Crashers kind of deal and the game would've still been the same at its core. I don't mind the 3D look but a beat em up 2D sidescroller in the style of Castle Crashers would have been cool to try I think. In that way it still could've looked and played like a realtime combat version of the previous two games.

[@dubber.rucky.urtheone]

I just feel like it was a money grab. We would’ve gladly waited for another 2d game versus this 3d bullshit.

[@electricangel4488]

Sounds like this might have benefitted from going for a bb gun theme and turning it into a shooter

[@theinudemon]

Very disappointing game. I felt it was going to be lame and not as great.

[@MiamiMarkYT]

I hope there’s more 2D South Park games in the future. I don’t think we even need the dressings of a high fantasy or superhero backdrop. Just throw us into South Park and let us run amok! I’d love a choose your own adventure game that leans heavily on branching choices and taking us all around South Park.

[@dylanbrune7723]

As someone who lived in Colorado, not far from Fair Play, the fences blocking off the snowed out roads isn't too unrealistic.

[@abel_7799]

I wouldn’t say it’s massively disappointing, I had fun and I still think its enjoyable. It just could use more features and mechanics honestly.

[@inferior3199]

I do appreciate you giving more interesting criticism about the games weaknesses compared to most people. I don't usually like this argument when it's used, but it does feel like it's a case of "you are just mad it's different and wanted the same thing as last time".

[@channel45853]

which would be a valid feeling, especially considering that it is a sequel to those games with the new kid being included plus, the game seems to be lesser than the past games so it doesn't seem like a case of different being bad

[@inferior3199]

@@channel45853 I wouldn't say it's bad because it's different, but bad because it's not well done. Plus the sequel argument falls flat since there are many games that can be considered sequels in a series that deviated from how the previous games played. For example:The 2 new GoW games are sequels to the old GoW games and they changed a lot from their previous installments and they were fine. And if you would have some criticism towards them you would have to say something better than "oh it's not like the previous stuff". I don't wanna give much weight to things like "Oh if you wanna make a good South Park game it must look like the show and be an RPG with an open world" which is just unnecessarily restricting.

[@GS-xv7eg]

I would love it if the next RPG game ends up being anime/martial arts themed like the Good Times with Weapons episode!

[@beepybopbap]

*let's fighting loooooove~*

[@cuddlebear7132]

I feel like they should of done an XCOM style of game, maybe a 2.5D style

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thanks For this! Turned 25 today! This made it Better 🎂🎂🎂🎂🎂❤❤❤❤

[@ddboudica]

Happy bday!

[@tonywa7272]

Okay, I subscribed to your channel as I like your videos explaining certain franchises that I like. Anyway, I knew that the new game felt off, even with the game title calling it "South Park: Snow Day" felt off, and converting it to a 3d felt out of place for this franchise. Anyway, I was so hoping for the next game of having our main character become a loner and lose the respect of his friends and decide to become a villain/anti-hero and become the main character that has gone rogue. I was hoping that the unique power the main character has, of having a lot of followers, plus his powerful time-warping farts, would be used in a bad light (As if things were bad already, it becomes much worse.). Becoming the main antagonist would have opened new doors or even flipped the scenery to show a different world where the main character allies himself with the antagonist characters, like the mafia, the police, the aliens, the crab people, the Sixth Graders, and even Shelley Marsh (Shudders). Again, this is where the story I was hoping for was going towards, having the main character being rejected by their friends/main characters and having to live a different life from being shunned.

[@gracekim1998]

I get that people are disappointed 😅 but saying it’s ‘massively disappointing’ implies very high expectations 😳 and there’s nothing wrong with trying something different and people were quick to not like it …. I found it fun 🤷‍♀️

[@PistachioBandit]

That’s a good point, castle crashes is a great example of that fast paced 4 player co op 2d game-play. That’s would have been better, but I do think the ultimate issue is that maybe the crew didn’t have as much investment in this game. I just don’t know how I feel about the whole live-service thing either.

[@DucksBob-zx4tm]

Every like this comment gets I will watch an episode of South Park again

[@Dantonfall]

John, topic aside, that was a good sponser segment you managed to make! I always wish for more creative and fun sponsors to make me want to skip them less, and yours delivered.

[@EdinMike]

Yeh the game sucks, the bigger question I have. Are “Snow Days” even a thing anymore ?! Since the pandemic we can teach online ?! Surely Snow Days are a thing of the past… Feck, I’m only 37 and I sound old already…

[@marc6371]

Hopefully we'll get another game similar to The Stick of Truth and The Fractured But Whole in the future

[@EnriqueMaxx]

This game is just another attempt by game developers to milk fans with Battle passes and micro transactions that no one asked for. They could've made the game everyone wanted but got greedy. Everyone acts like the south park creators are such good guys but in the last few years they've made decisions based purely on making money and screwing fans. The fact that I have to subscribe to TWO gd streaming services just to keep up with this show is a prime example of how f-ing greedy these people have become. Everyone acting like they're somehow getting one over on HBO's Max by also striking a deal with Paramount Plus. No you dummies they're screwing US over too.

[@diacarat]

there is a website where you can watch almost every episode, including the specials for free. you don't need to subscribe to any scammy streaming service. search "free south park de" i say almost because for some reason the ep "south park is gay" is inaccessible but thats the only one

[@anthonydelfino6171]

I agree. This game was massively disappointing. I already went into it cautiously since I don't like roguelikes, but I thought maybe this would be good anyway because South Park is generally so funny. But Snow Day is not just lacking in fun gameplay, but also in comedy. But it wasn't even just that, but graphically the game was severely lacking. Not because it was 3D, but because things like the Princess Kenny logo on her throne was completely pixelated and blurry, my character's head would show through his hair for seemingly no reason. Also I have to assume that there's no school snow day episode in South Park because growing up in this part of America, snow days are just something you hear about and never experience. I can remember snow up past my knees and falling so heavy they couldn't even keep roads clear, but school was still open.

[@MangoMann072]

You said it was going to be good

[@Johnny2Cellos]

when lol

[@professorhaystacks6606]

After Fantasy and Superheroes they really should have done SciFi. They could have made fun of modern SciFi shooters, too.

[@gracekim1998]

My issue is how EVERYONE keeps comparing it to the previous two games 😅 despite the fact it’s pretty creative enough 🤷‍♀️

[@Yzerbruh]

I would've been happy if they made the map smaller and made it change as you progress, making the snow pile up and having that affect the area. The 3D graphics also look off. Almost like they needed a bit more time on the lighting system. And like others mentioned, a 'Paper Mario'-esque art style also could have worked.

[@gioshot_x3859]

South Park going full online (almost live-service-like) with no story or npc is so dumb and such a cashgrab that i can't help but despise it