Why So Many Jedi Survived Order 66: Star Wars lore

[@LoreGuy]

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[@jamarieharry1805]

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[@jenniferbrewer5370]

Something I've wondered about for a while now; did Cody even attempt to confirm that Obi-Wan was dead? Cody knew Obi-Wan pretty well by then, and had to know what he was capable of surviving.

[@kosrules1884]

What would have happened if the imperial senate was not disbanded. What would have happened if they were still around after death of palpatine

[@ontasbulent5709]

Palpatine: I planned and prepared this for 30+ years and the Jedi will be destroyed *100 of Jedi survive Years in the Sith academy wasted

[@JediMasterZim]

Spirits of all ancient Sith Lords: Sidious, I am disappoint.

[@daddymcdoob7862]

There were 10,000 Jedi around during the clone wars, 100 Jedi surviving the purge is a survival rate of 1%. That is EXTREMELY efficient considering the fact that the Jedi were spread out across the galaxy.

[@alexrusset8614]

Indeed. I think it was practically impossible to wipe them all out in a single stroke. Too many moving pieces.

[@marrqi7wini54]

I thought it was 200 that lived.

[@daddymcdoob7862]

@@marrqi7wini54 that sounds more accurate. If I remember correctly, about 200 survived the initial purge, while 100 - 150 were picked off by Vader or turned into inquisitors. 2% is still a very good success level, especially since the majority of those that survived were later killed.

[@marrqi7wini54]

@@daddymcdoob7862 Ah I was thinking about the initial order 66. Yeah, not many jedi lived during the time of the empire. Around a couple dozen in legends. Less in canon.

[@shadowwriter4538]

The galaxy is just too big and the numbers are small in a big galaxy.

[@petermills3814]

A galaxy like that with a diameter of 120,000 lightyears and with 400 billion moons + planets, stars and other forms of celestial bodies combined = would make it an extremely hard place for the clones + empire, Vader and Sidious to find all the remaining Jedi over the next 20 plus years... like finding a needle in an ocean the size of the Pacific one = which is also metal detector proof as well. Now try to imagine finding a hundred needles within a haystack the size of that whole galaxy, with your bare hands... even with the empire's resources and huge forces of tens of trillions of personnel and soldiers = it would be next to impossible to get them all in the end.

[@Rocinante2300]

I thought the clones did a good job...

[@thorpeaaron1110]

They didn't

[@Julian-pw5mv]

They did, they had a succes rate of like 99% there were like 10 000 jedi maybe 100 to 200 survived. Thats incredibly impressive, dont forget, the jedi were some of the most powerful sentient beings in the galaxy.

[@HUNKMrDeath-lt7kq]

@@thorpeaaron1110 Storm troopers could never do better then clones.

[@howdoichangemyusername9802]

Thinking about it, it’s weird Ahsoka was able to survive the initial attack when she was getting shot from every angle whilst not seeing proper combat in months, but Jedi master Ki-Adi Mundi dies in the first 3 seconds despite needing to defend from only one angle.

[@mrheroprimes]

well Ki-Adi Mundi was in the middle leading the charge against separatist forces when the Clone special forces got order 66 they come to a stop prepare to open fire this causes time Ki-Adi Mundi to turn around wondering why his troops haven't moved forward, that's when the Clone Special Forces open fire on him.

[@TW-sh2un]

Also Rex hesitated, allowed her to get her guard up and essentially removed the element of surprise. Ki-Adi had no idea why they stopped running behind him, he looked quite confused and then they fired on him right away.

[@TetsuShima]

Moral of the story: Nihilus made a far better work than Palpy

[@blagojpejov4155]

True

[@arega1s830]

Granted, he had quite a bit of indirect help from Atris in her attempt to draw the Sith out.

[@blagojpejov4155]

@Darth Sidious someone should have finished them

[@JediMasterZim]

Star Wars Rethink: If Order 66 activated too soon (like a year into the war instead of the end) due to the brain control chips malfunctioning like what happened with Tup

[@elliottknifton8902]

One thing I've wondered about is were there any Jedi that had been captured by the separatists at the time of order 66? And on a side note for a what-if scenario: the republic never demilitarises (they don't need to have a colossal army but one that is large enough to stop the trade federation for example).

[@thorpeaaron1110]

The Separatist holdouts probably would have hid the Jedi from the re-oragnized Galactic Empire

[@grantponciano9386]

The trade federation is like space Amazon. They're just a shipping company that happens to also be corrupt and spends money on making sure war continues. But everyone needs them because they control shipping. A really simplified summary but you get the idea.

[@m.unalercan8920]

They are literally wizards of course there were survivors

[@Tracer_Krieg]

Because trying to find .000000001% of a population of quadrillions is damn difficult.

[@petermills3814]

200 to 250 quadrillion to be precise.

[@marrqi7wini54]

@@petermills3814 It's canonically 100 quadrillion. Legends and current canon.

[@saulgoodman1829]

@@marrqi7wini54 is it in canon 100 quadrillion?

[@marrqi7wini54]

@@saulgoodman1829 Yeah I'm sure it is as I doubt they'd be bothered to change it.

[@saulgoodman1829]

@@marrqi7wini54 yeah

[@darthtrooper9897]

Just look inside the jedi temple. Thousands dead. Thats like over 90% of them

[@elevencastle6154]

Lots of Jedi left the order at the start of the clone wars. So they weren’t involved with the clones. Jedi that fought in the war got mostly wiped out by their clones. The survivors were mostly conscientious objectors.

[@thorpeaaron1110]

That's why Jedis like Ahsoka Tano were able to fall through the cracks

[@markgraves6441]

I'm assuming that not every Jedi in the entire galaxy were being escorted by clones. There had to be some who were on independent missions. Some that were on no mission at all. After order 66, when Kenobi sent the message to stay away, there may have been dozens that went into hiding.

[@lerneanlion]

What if Ahsoka is in charge of the 501st Legion on Umbara instead of Pong Krell? How will this affect the timeline?

[@jaysoncariati8379]

I would agree with but Yoda and a few others that was gifted with future sight saw it comin but at last second and a lot of the survivors had to fight to survive and afterwards a lot gave up on being a jedi even including High Jedi Council Members

[@thorpeaaron1110]

Many Jedi were able to survive the massacre that was Order 66 because of many reasons like in Yoda's case he sensed in froce the clones under his command was about to shoot him with blaster blots and in Ahsoka's case Captain Rex took out his inihabtior chip before he made the killing blow

[@JOSHUA8039]

I dont think the empire was prepared for the jedi to just cut themselves off from the force. And start a normal life until something happened to bring them back.

[@liaml.e.5964]

I always thought the amount of Jedi that survived in legends was absurd.

[@darthmorgoththesecond9990]

Because the story writers force it too and some power Jedi got through it.

[@carrierominger5534]

Writers do like the jedi and can't think of other protagonists

[@noahtylerpritchett2682]

During the start of the clone wars I estinate around 35.000 Jedi (the franchise saying once 10.000 I assumed it symbolic) but during the end of the Galactic Civil War its around 50-500 survivors. The Jedi truly were thoroughly purged.

[@KhairulFadzlyAKarim]

I think Sidious never expect to get all Jedi, what he wants is to destroy the Order and their futures which are the Padawans. Order 66 achieved what it set out to do, destroying the Jedi Order. The Surviving Jedi now has no support, they are left alone, being hunted and has to go into hidings.

[@lempire6361]

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[@jlion2439]

Kinda justifies the Purge for the Galaxy.

[@daveshn]

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[@kevinhansen8211]

Even if they survive order 66, they didn't survive the purge. Many Jedi were unable to survive outside the order. Thanks to the grand plan and their own arrogance, most average Jedi Knights had no attachments beyond what was lost. Despite their claims of being humble, they were used to having near unlimited resources, and didn't know how to live outside of the system that had trained them. In legends, several Jedi, who couldn't survive outside of the order system, decided to commit suicide by clone, drawing their weapons, and fighting until they were finally cut down.

[@Rcampo42]

Aaahhhh if only they didn’t forbid attachments or allow Jedi to have families and don’t give a crud of the senate they could’ve been more self efficient

[@JediMasterZim]

I think the fact that the average Jedi was unable to survive outside the Jedi Order, to not be able to live outside the system, was on purpose (and with all due respect, I don't think it was due to the Sith's Grand Plan or the arrogance of average Jedi, but rather the leadership of the Order itself). I believe this was an intentional design by the leadership of the Jedi Order, namely the Jedi High Council of Coruscant, to keep their subordinates attached to the Jedi Order that they led and be dependent upon it...and by extension, be attached and dependent upon that same leadership, namely the Jedi High Council. Think about it: if the average Jedi could be self-sufficient and live outside of the Jedi Order...why put up with the strict limitations (some of them arguably being inhumane and violations of sentient rights like not being allowed to fall in love, get married and have children and be in contact with their families) that are placed upon them? Why put up with the dictates of the Jedi Council, why listen to what they have to say and do as they order? If the average Jedi could just up and leave and survive outside the Order, then why not do so and live a far freer life? Why would the average Jedi take the decisions of and threats of expulsion by the Jedi Council seriously, what would stop them from telling the Council to effectively shove it? If you think about it, that's why the threat of expulsion from the Order is considered such a threat to the average Jedi, because they can't survive outside the Order, or at the very least not well since they were not set up to be able to do that. Hell, Anakin Skywalker was, in part, prevented from jumping off that LAAT/i and ditching chasing after Count Dooku in Attack of the Clones specifically because of that threat as presented by Obi-wan. If the average Jedi could survive outside the Order, at least decently, then why would the threat of expulsion mean much to them beyond the sentimental, perhaps? If individual Jedi were self-sufficient, then would we not see plenty of Jedi just shrug off expulsion, or even decide to leave on their own for greener pastures? It's the fact that individual Jedi are not given the education and training to survive outside of the Jedi Order, or otherwise get the opportunity to become able to be self-sufficient, that gives the punishment/threat of expulsion its teeth. By that same token, that is what primarily gives the Jedi Council, which is a totally undemocratic, non-elected body that self-appoints itself, its power over their own fellow Jedi. For the vast, overwhelming supermajority of Jedi, expulsion is a kind of indirect death sentence of sorts, for them it's living death, and to most leaving the Order on their own would-by that same token-be akin to a sort of suicide. For a lot of surviving Jedi, as you just described by the end with "suicide by clone", in the eyes of those surviving Jedi they, as far as they themselves were concerned, were already dead because the Order they were designed from infancy (or in some rare cases very early childhood/age four or five or such biological equivalent) to be dependent upon was gone. The Jedi Order's leadership wanted to be able to control its members, to get the subordinate Jedi to do what they wanted. Given the Jedi Order's leadership weren't exactly generally willing to go executing their fellow Jedi (unless you count killing those who "fell to the dark side" or were believed to have done so, or the really out there examples like the Padawan Massacre of Taris from Star Wars Legends), the Council needed something...different to obtain compliance. The Jedi Council and those loyal within the Order did not want the average Jedi to have agency, at least not beyond the bare minimum needed to do their jobs. The Jedi Council did not want its members to be able to be self-sufficient and be able to survive (at least well) outside the Order, because that would undermine the very source of their authority and power within the Order and over its members. It makes sense too, because then they very well could have had Jedi Schism after Jedi Schism (though not necessary from large numbers going Sith), if not fallen apart completely long, long before Palpatine or even his millennia-old version of the Sith ever came along. In short: Yeah, I basically agree with what you said, @Kevin Hansen, I think you bring up very valid points as a whole.

[@Rcampo42]

@@JediMasterZim to point it out they brainwash they’re members because their affraid of life experience Why take them when their babies and wait til the choose one their own That’s why Luke skywalkers new Jedi order is better it let’s members come and go, allow them to get married, have families and so on

[@reddeaddude2187]

I liked it better when surviving Order 66 was an accomplishment. In the new lore everyone and their sister survived it.

[@JediMasterZim]

With all due respect, in the old pre-Disney lore they still had a ton of Jedi survive long enough to get into various points of time for extra material. Granted, nearly all of them died soon after introduction in every story, but the fact remains they still had a bunch of Jedi survive Order 66 itself. Also, in the old Star Wars Legends Luke Skywalker had at least a handful of surviving Jedi and students or children of Jedi join his Jedi Order. Just saying...

[@House_Forrester]

RETCON, thats why so many Jedi survived.

[@freddoesvox9033]

Sentinels were most likely a lot of the survivors

[@mrheroprimes]

I think the in Grand Inquisitor was a regular Jedi Knight before he became a temple guard so you probably wielded a blue lightsaber for all we know he probably served on the front lines of the clone at one point I can understand him being bitter towards jocasta Nu giving her attitude now she acted towards other Jedi, just look at Attack of the Clone she basically tells Obi-Wan that Camino doesn't exist because there was no record of it in the temple archive.

[@nicktechnubyte1184]

May the plot armor be with you! And not with any disney star wars garbage!

[@ELVEVERX]

for an order of over 10,000 having less than 100 surviving isn't really that many.

[@ontasbulent5709]

Hello there

[@JediMasterZim]

If you go by the old pre-Disney Star Wars Legend lore, considering that the population has proven ungrateful to the Jedi and turned on them on more than one occasion (both before and after the Great Jedi Purge), and considering the Republic has thrown them under the metaphorical bus or abandoned them on more than one occasion, it actually makes sense that at least some Jedi would be weary of that possibility happening again even if the vast, overwhelming super-majority of Jedi were gullible, overly-trusting fools, at least where the Republic is concerned.

[@MrRonald327]

The clokes were too sloppy.

[@britishrepublic6615]

The jedi needed to fall the peace and clone do a great job respect to them.

[@thorpeaaron1110]

No

[@thorpeaaron1110]

Many Jedi survived

[@IncrediibleHauck]

Disney needed too make more money

[@RHR199X]

What if all the levels of Coruscant collapsed on eachother

[@moderndemon84]

Many?

[@Foxbat320]

Maybe palpatine allowed them to escape . Alway have an enemy to fight , a boogeyman for the populous fightern of .

[@knyx9913]

How many survived in Canon

[@59rlmccormack]

The Jedi who survived just got lucky, ok!

[@Shadowkiller-dq2ju]

Because most of the Jedi had plot armor

[@jamarieharry1805]

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