WHY (some) AFOLs (Adult Fans of Lego) HATE BIONICLE

[@flyingpiggles1034]

"And others we don't mention" *yes, don't mention the theme that saved your company.*

[@ChiliFrog]

I thought that line was a bit disrespectful to Bionicle, specially considering what you wrote

[@roccotherayquaza2468]

Flyingpiggles10 agreed

[@cyanyde4950]

yep if they hadn't made their own series with deep story driven lore etc the company would have probably suffered heavily Bionicle was the savior of the company and deserves more respect.

[@Middlerun1]

@@cyanyde4950 Amen

[@Onemanshowoff]

I mean in regards to the story in the film they didn't need to bring the boys back in town for this one Would've been cool tho

[@LegoDude2465]

In the Lego movie, wouldn't it be cool is Nuparu or another Matoran was one of the Master Builders?

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

OH MY GOSH, that sounds AWESOME~. And to work around the issue of Bionicle figures, well, being utterly GIGANTIC next to a Lego minifig, they could've just made him appear in his squat "Mctoran" form. Man, that would've been so cool to see. Oh well.

[@BlueDragoon97]

NickonAquaMagna Maybe in the sequel... we can dream :)

[@BlueDragoon97]

Jbulleit97 Also, just to spite you, does this video mean you're totally okay with Flappy Bird? (I'm joking^ of course, but I am curious)

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Jbulleit97 ........egh.

[@williammcgowan1939]

I would like to see Taipu as a major figure in Bionicle. I'm not quite sure what the Master Builders were, as I only know the complete stories of the Rahi wars, the original Bohrok war, and the Toa Inika saga. However, it sounds cool.

[@LAZY-RUBY]

Anyone who says you can't build anything cool with the bionicle pieces must not be very creative. I built a little tachikoma-esque robot them.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

That's the AFOLs' problem with the whole thing. You used pieces of a robotic-looking thing to make another robotic-looking thing, and not a house or a boat or a car like you could with normal bricks.

[@bardhi09]

NickonAquaMagna Yeah the regular lego bricks may not seem much to the simple eye but the potential of buidling things with them is practically limitless...as long as you have an imagination and you're constructive you can do all sorts of things with them Too bad I don't have much of an imagination neither am I constructive :/...but I do like seeing what other people create with them that's always interesting For example(and I know this is not the same thing but I feel like mentioning it) I loved watching Domino Day Annually...it was this event that always tried to break the guiness world record for most consecutive domino's falling into place...and they would come up with the craziest things and shapes for the setpieces...it was a joy to watch...a true spectacle Shame there hasn't been another Domino Day Event since 2009 :(...and it looks to be that way forever now...I will probably never be able to watch another Domino Day Event in my life...that sucks

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

***** Dominos are so fun to watch.

[@jasmineirwin7166]

I find it a lot funnier than simply stacking bricks together.

[@ToaTenitrus]

The funny thing is the kids of yesterday that were playing with Bionicle sets are becoming the AFOLs today building large, elaborate creatures with Bionicle's pieces. I wonder how that makes the anti-Bionicle AFOLs feel.

[@TotallyNotTheRedComet69]

As an AFOL, I can’t help but LOVE Bionicle, not because i find it interesting or anything, even tho it is, but, it saved the company that I grew up with, and for that, I will forever absolutely respect Bionicle

[@themovieguy3642]

I Agreed, DAMN STRAIGHT!

[@arricat5e311]

I loved Bionicle. They were so much more than just regular action figure. You could make your own characters and stories even vehicles. So much customization was possible. The Lego spirit was definitely there so I can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with it.. They could've at least thrown in a couple Toa into the battle scene. Did you catch the Bionicle movies on Netflix?

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

I bought each one as they were released.

[@internationalmanofmystery1600]

NickonAquaMagna Hmm? They're free.

[@arricat5e311]

Netflix wasn't around when they first came out...

[@serbianslav5494]

I bought mix of not completed Bionicle G1 sets. In that mix were: mixed Leva Nuva and Tahu Nuva, piraka Reidak and, for the end, some random Bionicle. For me, all those parts are treasure.

[@SilverPwns]

"a bunch of others we don't need to mention" More like "Let's jab a stake through the heart of every single fan of Bionicle fan ever."

[@bardhi09]

It's a corporate world...they will say whatever the Audience wants them to hear and whatever makes them most money

[@jamesneuman7083]

I'm still genuinely saddened how bionicle was so callously thrown to the side :/

[@greninjazac4577]

This video just summarized the problem with nostalgia overtaking your logic, this was informative and I love how you worded things. I like the vid

[@Percival917]

Had I been an AFOL at the time, I probably would have had a much more open-minded approach to Bionicle than most others, especially when the reveal came of more potential when technic and system could combine, leading to even more endless possibilities than before. Like, "W-w-w-w-w-WHAT!?!?! They did WHAT? You can do WHAT? I must try this myself just to see what I can build now!" That sorta thing. And I'd even show the badass results to other AFOL's just to prove that the weird robots truly were the saviors of the traditional bricks, not their bane.

[@jamiroblues6083]

I can't build a car with these weird bonkles pieces Excuse me Slizer Turbo?

[@Numbskill]

I don’t think I encountered people who hate Bionicle, save one person who was from New Zealand, and hated Bionicle mainly due to it taking stuff from their culture. But to me, that’s sort of a valid statement due to real-life events that happened between Lego and the Maori tribes. But that doesn’t change how much I love Bionicle. It was one of, if not the most defining part of my childhood.

[@neinja66469]

Sorry to intercept after four years but why did the man from New Zealand hate Bionicle? I can understand the Maori tribes considering Lego just used normal words for whole character names (hence changes like "Jala" to "Jaller" which are *not* the same) but what does New Zealand specifically have against them?

[@neinja66469]

Disregard my previous comment friend cultural ignorance is a fiend

[@WilloftheNinja]

Dangit, Bionicle was my Childhood!

[@crazyhamburgerproductions1542]

My dad loves the Star Wars bionicle style figures so I showed him some bionicle and he loved them.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Wow.

[@crazyhamburgerproductions1542]

Nick on Planet Ripple I wish I was old enough so I could’ve bought some because looking back there great.

[@christiansoldier11]

I oddly loved bionicle as a kid... according to my parents at least. "couldn't go past a toy isle without picking one of them up" in their own words. Nowadays to me that'd be unthinkable. more self-control and maturity and everything. Growing up and finding new interests and all, Not intending to talk down on AFOLs if that last part made me come across as some douche who thinks it's childish and that you need to get more "Manleh" interests. Because i certainly don't. I recently had a nostalgia attack from seeing the Lego Movie, dug out my old cobbled together Tahu figure (most of the bits were missing, it's weapons are now a mining drill and a Bohrok hand for a shield and i have replaced the head with one of the Metru Nui Toa, i think, i'm not sure.) I have it standing on my desk right now.

[@ethanator6015]

I can relate. When I was younger, Bionicle was the only Legos I really played with.

[@Raptorman0205]

My parents loved it when Bionicle gen 1 was around. They said it made every Christmas and Birthday for me the easiest thing ever; just buy whatever Bonkles were on the shelf at the time.

[@bigslouch7836]

why did you have to break my heart with that ending

[@zeonthedigger6851]

Awww, there weren't any Bionicles in the Lego Movie? Sorry that I haven't seen it, I just haven't found the time to go see any movies recently. And yes, I too was introduced to Bionicle as a child. Hell, to some extent, the storyline, character designs, and names actually helped ease me into my current anime fandom. ...Though that still doesn't mean that I don't take out my custom Toa out of the closet and inspect/play with it every few weeks.

[@crowickedone4037]

Guys the vote is on!

[@creamsupreme6987]

We not gonna mention the lore? The lore of the bionicle series was probably the most expansive and well thought out than any other lego theme ever, I reckon at least.

[@Ob1tuber]

“You can’t build a house with Bionicle pieces” Do you want to see what people can do with those pieces

[@DragonoftheMaster]

This would be a great lesson for people involved in politics to learn. Just because someone likes things that are different from you does not make that person a monster.

[@Sk1llzHeeler]

That end part with the old lady felt deep.

[@luisalderman7340]

Okay but this is literally a same scenario with dream smp kids

[@kesterfae5447]

I hear Unreal music. I always thought that games soundtrack reflected the mood of Bionicle pretty well, or at least I think so. It properly captures the mysterious exploration of an ancient and vast culture the way Bionicle makes me feel, something grander and incredible that you want to be a part of. Awesome choice.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

That tune always gets me.

[@heyheyitsjae2475]

I think it would be cool if in the LEGO Movie Sequel Tahu makes a cameo in a tavern, and he goes on a huge "drunk" (though they wouldn't be able to call it that or be to explicit) rant about how G2 "ruined" BIONICLE. Emmet would give him some words of wisdom, about how even if something is different it can't change the past, that you'll always have found memories, and even if theres a loud group of people hating on something it doesn't mean it's bad, it just means they specifically didn't like it. Tahu would be emboldened and happy again, and decide to help Emmet on his quest, but then the bad guys show up. Tahu fights off the enemy for Emmet to escape, and just as Emmet reaches the door we look back to see Tahu's sihlouette getting its mask knocked off and Tahu falling to his knees in self sacrifice. Emmet screams "no" or "Tahu" or something along those lines as Wyldstle pulls him out of the door.

[@Fatrocka64YouTube]

Jacob Hanshew I agree with the idea

[@Dargonhuman]

As long as Emmett doesn't yell "TAKUUAAA!!!" we'll be okay. Although, as an inside joke for Bionicle fans, when Emmett talks about fond memories, it would be amusing if Tahu mumbles something about "unless you lose your memories" as a reference to all the times Bionicle characters have suffered amnesia or had their memories wiped.

[@jasmineirwin7166]

Oh my god bionicle fans need more videos like this especially nowadays. You should make a video like this but with recent events in mind.

[@nolaz010]

"Those obnoxious, condescending AFOLs" lmao

[@PurifierUnit]

This kind of thing is why I'm subscribed to you. I do think you're being a bit TOO self-aware, but self-awareness is always a huge plus in my book. Your evaluation of Unleashed was spot-on. The daytime stages *were* too linear. Your inner fears for the future of the series were proven unfounded, but that doesn't mean you didn't have a valid point. It just means Sega took the right route from that relatively unpolished beginning. As for Bionicle...speaking as someone who grew up with more "traditional" Lego and was absolutely enthralled by Bionicle as a young teenager, and also as someone who has quite literally never participated in the Lego community at large, I say leave the haters to their hate. There's little point in trying to argue merits with most people, unfortunately. Human beings have remarkable resilience when it comes to resisting plain fact, and even between reasoned individuals things can usually be boiled down to "I accept the merits of X but don't personally like X." The problem is most people don't even get that far -- they will refuse to acknowledge merit out of hand on the basis of their preconceptions. This, incidentally, is why self-awareness is such a major thumbs-up for me. Now let's all go set up a giant battle between Matau and every Bionicle villain ever. My money is on Matau.

[@ArtixWoP]

And then Sonic BOOM happened...

[@cookiesnugglez7318]

No it didn't, it never happened

[@VorpalSlade]

BONKLES RULE! But seriously, last year I completed my Toa Mata collection after only ever owning Tahu, Gali and Pohatu as a kid. Found the other three on eBay over a period of a few months and now I've got these things that I genuinely really treasure because they're a piece (pun intended) of my childhood.

[@GLADIATORBRICKSPRODUCTIONS]

I've found ways to work bionicle pieces into builds makes for some cool mechs I'm just a Lego fan who loves building and finding ways to work in all parts they can find into there builds

[@GLADIATORBRICKSPRODUCTIONS]

Hero factory pieces are harder to figure out how to use but new pieces and new parts makes using them easyer

[@DrMadd]

Wow I've never heard about those lego fans. Also where did you get Matau? I'm asumming you didn't dig through your whole lego collection to find the pieces.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Oh, I did. Just the other day, in fact.

[@DrMadd]

NickonAquaMagna Wow you have more patience than I'll ever have.

[@legoroan9866]

Dr. Madd I saw a chat on the brickset forums saying about burning bionicle

[@hideofreakingkojima5457]

@@legoroan9866 Ok, now that's just borderline asshole. It's bad enough that some of them are rare as shit and discontinued.

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

Can I just say how much I love the minifigure scale Bionicle figures. I never got any, I just wasn't keen on the size of the things. I like to build MASSIVE Lego stuff, so Bionicle wasn't meant for me. The MINIFIGURE scale Bionicle stuff however...

[@WarioLand3]

Great video as always. Yeah man, Bionicle is great.

[@Muddykip64]

I'm just glad that there's the bricks and those kinds of sets for the people who like those, and the models (like the late bionicle) for the people who like those. I personally like both, because I like building things with both. There really is something for everyone.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Me too.

[@thejbirdtm3331]

I love everything about the Lego movie too

[@darkninjaofstealth]

1:00 technically, you can make a vehicle with constraction, and we've all seen it

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Well, mostly with Technic beams and plates an' whatnot. The actual body parts of most Toa aren't that useful for such a thing.

[@darkninjaofstealth]

NickonAquaMagna True, True

[@michellascaux237]

I hate peapoles who say "bionicle fans are hater" but then they say bionicle is shit in front of us and they are suprised that we look like haters if you say that one of the sings we love is shit of course we are gonna hate you!!!!!

[@Dargonhuman]

Personally I despise Ninjago because I feel that (justified or not), it had a large part in why Bionicle G2 wasn't successful, and hence I blame it for G2 being prematurely cancelled, rational or not. Now, will I tell fans of Ninjago that they're not allowed to enjoy it, or that it sucks and killed a better theme? Of course not! If that's what they like, then let them enjoy it; they're enjoyment isn't hurting me, my distaste for the line is my own personal issue to deal with, not theirs and taking my issues out on them won't bring Bionicle back so there's no point in ruining things for them just because I'm feeling like a Grumps McGurt.

[@cheesier5153]

I will say I think something that may have pissed off afols during Bionicle’s hay day was when kids would when asked “do you like LEGO?” And then they say oh ya I love Bionicle

[@thebekmanz]

I grew up with first and second gen bionicles, loved it with all my heart. I find the new series pretty cool though I haven't made any purchases to get them (trying out gunpla atm)

[@leonardopapa5000]

Same

[@marcuswalker3409]

I’m an AFOL, and even I know that this whole BIONICLE hate is stupid!

[@caleborg5688]

Bionicles are pretty awesome. Something about you looking at Matau at the end was oddly satisfying

[@Vrinara]

Something I've noticed, even at 27 years old. Many people I know around my age will occasionally play with Legos. Whether it's Bionicle or their own sets. I think that's the beauty of lego and I think people shouldn't try to force their opinions down peoples throats. In the end, Shut up and play with your toys! xD Because that's the fun about Legos. No matter how old you are. Whether you are 5 or 60. You love the toys you grew up with.

[@austinreed7343]

And there’s no reference to Bionicle in TLM2!

[@kc_9970]

The sequel was originally gonna get Takanuva in Rex Dangervest's team.

[@elijahfoltz3755]

@@kc_9970 They would've made Takanuva a *TRAITOR?!!* Frankly, I'm glad they scrapped that idea (if it even was a thing, because I have no way of knowing if that's true or not), because I don't think I could handle the *TOA OF LIGHT* working for a corrupted, formerly goody-two-shoes douchebag.

[@austinreed7343]

@@elijahfoltz3755 The context of that was also uncomfortable; the implication Bionicle was some dumb edgy garbage you were supposed to grow out of once you left your edgelord phase.

[@elijahfoltz3755]

@@austinreed7343 If that was the case, then I never left my edgelord phase, because I still have all my Bionicle sets (whether they're in one piece or not is irrelevant). Oh, wait. Jokes aside, I actually sorta did have an edgelord phase. Thanks for reminding me of that, I guess.

[@austinreed7343]

@@elijahfoltz3755 Also, if they did want a character that would fit, they could go with Malum.

[@ChaosMarioBros1]

What year of BIONICLE was your favourite?

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

That's a toughie. There's so many good ones... though I guess either 2001 or 4.

[@AClassicBrick]

Bionicle was pretty cool when I was a kid. Now it isn't my cup of tea anymore, but as I remember how much I liked it back then, I'd say it is an underappreciated theme.

[@bloomasaurus]

This video is relevant now bc the vote XD

[@IceKiller159]

I had some bionicles when I was a kid.I only remember the name of one of them tahnok kal.I still have the disc it came with

[@alicyjinx8923]

I think it's more a problem with AFOLs that didnt grow up with Bionicle. I prefer System brick based stuff but I'm super nostalgic for Bionicle, becuase I had them when I was a kid.

[@alicyjinx8923]

Is this really a thing in the AFOL community? I mostly build with System stuff but I remember loving Bionicle and even though I'm not constantly cranking out Bionicle MOCs, I still like the franchise and have fond memories of it, mostly the first few waves and the pre-Bionicle stuff like Roboriders and Slizers.

[@revivingoranges8720]

Was Clown Town a real line? It got a shoutout. I understand glazing over things like Speed Racer that were only temporary and, by the picture, self-explanatory. Maybe even glossing over Star Wars would be fine too, especially since that line get a cameo later on too. Bionicle deserved just a little something.

[@DAMIENDMILLS]

We're all Lego nerds. Nerds fighting nerds is just cringe

[@megasnowey7177]

I think this sort of behavior exists in many fandoms in a cycle. For example, the afols come in and enjoy lego, then when the bionicle fans joined, they felt that these new fans shouldn't be able to enjoy what they don't and decide to try and destroy bionicle, then fans of biobicle g2 join and a select few of the first bionicle fansstart attacking this likely for the exact same reason you said the bionicle haters do in this video, they saw it as a threat to what they love

[@TrisStrudel]

I'm upset by Hero Factory in the same way that I'm upset by Sonic Boom. Hero Factory is basically the NEW Bionicle thing though obviously far from as good, yet it gets new toy-lines, and a television show. Sonic Boom is an alternate reality of Sonic, though obviously sub-par, and yet it gets a show, comics, and games. Both in of themselves aren't hurting their other brands in terms of continuity or things like that, but the effort put into making these properties could have been better used elsewhere. Sonic Boom could have been time and money spent to help with the penders issue (and getting Ian Flynn his mini-series wrap-up), and helping with the main-series and it's future installments. Hero Factory could have been money and people focused on turning the Bionicle comics into a television show of their own so that those who only watched the movies didn't feel so confused by the time-jumps and being left on a cliffhanger. We could have had the Piraka and Takanuva all black and giant-like. But instead we have Hero Factory, just like instead of repaired comics for Sonic, we have Boom. Had either of these properties, Hero Factory and Sonic Boom, been quality material, the issue wouldn't be so jarring, but the fact that they didn't live up to what they should have, it just makes the wound sting more. I don't outright attack either, I just ignore them unless it's a letsplay or something, but you gotta wonder how properties with so much potential and money invested in them, ended up so lazily finished.

[@Gamma0_0]

Good words, man. Good words. Personally, I always thought of Bionicle and Lego as two separate things that were great on their own, but it didn't really irk me when I saw them mixed together -- no harm done there, really. I see where you're coming from, though. On another note: DUDE YOU HAVE MATAU HE'S MY FAV

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

MINE TOO.

[@Gamma0_0]

O MY GOD.

[@PurifierUnit]

1234ping4321 FUCK YES MATAU. HE'S LIKE LEWA, ONLY ABOUT A BILLION TIMES COOLER.

[@Gamma0_0]

MegaMan Trigger GOT THAT RIGHT CAPS LOCK

[@Gamma0_0]

MegaMan Trigger *sniff*. . . That is one of the most hilarious and beautiful things I have ever read in my entire life.

[@TorriadTwire]

But we all know the number 1 afol is... *E L J A Y*

[@matthewdavison2622]

And the same thing happened in Bionicle Generation 2. AFOBs (Adult Fans of Bionicle as I like to call it) hated G2 for the pieces being too smooth and too much like Hero Factory and suddenly attack anyone who dare I say liked this new interpretation or something. And we still haven't matured even as it has ended.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Yep. And I didn't see any of it coming when I made this video. Holy crap, how quickly things changed, and then... didn't, really.

[@matthewdavison2622]

But I still want to see how the AFOLs who rejected the old Bionicle would react to seeing the new Bionicle. If they will accept the new sets for being more like Lego or reject them because they're still not their bricks.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

***** Some in column a, some in column b.

[@fanb1536]

Personally, I really like the G2 sets, and the Masters are my favorite Toa set designs in general, but I'd be lying if I said the system wasn't lacking. It's main problem was that it still didn't have much compatibility with the other systems. Technic for example, stands as it's own system but perfectly meshes with the classic brick system, and the G1 Bionicle system used a lot of technic, making it also very usable. However, while G2 parts were less specialized and they WERE trying to introduce new pieces to make it more compatible, it wasn't enough. It just had too much focus on the balljoints and occasional tiny pins, and didn't let you do much outside of humanoids (though they DID try very hard to make some creature designs, which i applaud). It's really too bad it couldn't evolve more, because it really could've had more potential later on had G2 gotten actual advertising and wasn't dumped down for children. Because apparently we couldn't understand G1 just fine as kids. The problem wasn't that the story was more mature or possibly complex, but that it became convoluted as years went on. LEGO just feels completely disconnected from reality as a whole in recent years; they don't know what made lines popular to begin with, and are more content with selling licensed movie products because that makes them more money anyway. Now all we have are those terrible generic Star Wars figures, and if things continue this way we'll probably never see a truly unique theme get to thrive again, let alone have another constraction series again. They can't rely on Ninjago and Disney's pimp money forever. Honestly, they're better off making a new constraction theme altogether rather than continue trying to adapt this one. One that'll allow more varied character or creature design. Perhaps they can base something off of the mixels system with the tiny balljoints and bricks, or perhaps something based on ratchet joints again. Who knows.

[@johnohara4788]

Yeah, I think the reaction to the sets was a huge overreaction, but I think we can all agree that the story was bad, it wasn’t up to the bionicle standard that older fans expected and didn’t even do much to draw in new younger fans

[@tjtheentertainer9376]

Takanuva was supposed to be in the second Lego movie and work with Rex, but they changed the script! No fair! 😞

[@sigi10.]

When i saw that clip i was like "holly sh*t is that BIONICLE!?"

[@Woodenspade]

with? Creating your own things with the parts you have? I myself do not buy strictly technic sets either, as it doesn't appeal to me. But, I am glad they exist. It's amazing how there are so many different types of legos, bricks, technic, ball and joint, and minestorms systems. I myself just buy System sets, because its what appeals to me the most. I won't shit on others, and don't understand why people do it to begin with.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

You're right, that is the point of Lego. The more zealous people out there just need to understand that Bionicle and HF aren't about building a castle or a boat or whatever. It's about making CHARACTERS to act out adventures with, and given enough spare pieces to fiddle around with, you can make your own heroes. Then again, I think they do understand that, and that's their problem with it.

[@Woodenspade]

Interesting idea there. I myself have actually never even purchased a Space, Castle, or Western themed sets, the ones AFOLs seem to like the best to an extent, but I just either just don't like the modern versions, Galaxy Squad, or they just don't have them in production, such as the Western lineup. I'ld like to get into the new Castle lineup myself, possibly buying two of the new King's Castle sets when they go on sale on Amazon. By the way, are there any themes you'ld like to collect for, but the modern versions just feel lacking in some way, or they don't produce them at this moment in time?

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Jacob Klinkenberg I can't say...

[@Numbskill]

I guess I really am an AFOL now, since I’m of that age these days. Lego never really leaves you, does it? :3

[@localdude2979]

0:47 LMAO wtf was that Biotuber: Thats what an AFOL sounds like dear sub! lmao

[@Mael_Str0M]

There were concepts for Takanuva to appear in the LEGO movie 2 I’m crying

[@gbond8261]

whats the song in the background when you show the bionicle pics after showing the clip of the lego movie

[@LuisRuiz-fw9ts]

I really can't see why some people just personify what they don't like, or simply just fear as something bad just because they don't want it to exist, or because they don't understand it. I myself am a religious person who listens to music such as grunge or metal. You shouldn't talk badly about things that you don't know about.

[@MonkeyWithNoBomb]

This is kinda how Bionicle Fans treated Hero Factory. Claiming that it "Killed Bionicle" even though it was there to close the constraction hole that Bionicle left.

[@jaykobwalson1941]

Yeah, Breakout and Ordeal of Fire was pretty interesting. Kinda wish they focused on other teams like Bionicle did.

[@MonkeyWithNoBomb]

@@jaykobwalson1941 I really do agree with this. only showing characters we know, and then you only have a few helmets. we could've gotten more.

[@Legomicroman]

i think it was because: 1. Hero Factory was blatantly cheesy and had some of the worst written Lego villains, ever. 2. CCBS, which allowed for less complex builds, with far less molds and thus far less variety 3. underwritten Hero Characters, some of which were blatant Deus Ex Machinas. like Rocka. 4. the setting was arguably far more bland than Bionicle. Makuhero City is not interesting. 5. the legit worst constraction line came with Hero Factory: "Ordeal of Fire".

[@MonkeyWithNoBomb]

@@Legomicroman I'm going to give my own opinion on these 5 points you have written down 1. Yeah, HF was very cheesy, and the villains did suck, can't argue there. but I wouldn't say they're the worst Lego villains ever. sure, they all fucking suck, but they're not the worst. 2. CCBS has been very useful in streamlining Constraction parts. but yeah, variety was really slim. 3. Yeah no. I have no argument here, it's just- yeah the writing fucking sucked. Maybe if there was as much passion for HF as there was for Bionicle(in terms of writing), then it could be better. But there wasn't as much passion, so it sucked. 4. While yes, this is a great point, I think it's once again, creative laziness. Is Makuhero City the best concept? *Not by a long shot.* But it could've always been worse. 5. yeah I hated Ordeal Of Fire too

[@greatmiru2064]

I love LEGO but Bionicle always have a special place in my heart, like a never fading flame!

[@starwatcherusa]

Is that Unreal Tournament music in the background?

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Yes. It's one of my favorite pieces of music in all of gaming.

[@starwatcherusa]

@@NickonPlanetRipple Which track in particular is it?

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

@@starwatcherusa I..... keep forgetting the name.

[@starwatcherusa]

@@NickonPlanetRipple That's ok. Always nice to see someone appreciate that old classic.

[@ablosch2452]

4:09 Mind telling me what the music is here?

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

The ending theme from Unreal.

[@ablosch2452]

@@NickonPlanetRipple Thanks

[@fduranthesee]

I LOVE Bionicle.

[@fduranthesee]

By the way, they weren't robots or even robotic, they had alot of 'spiritual' and elemental tones.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

I know that. It drove me crazy when people called them "just robots" growing up.

[@PloopusProductions]

I got just got into bionicle

[@JPOG7TV]

Idk why AFOLS got mad at bionicle. No one is forcing you to buy or or even care about.

[@glukkogobrrr]

That ending is pretty sweet.

[@retrixpl7108]

He looks like he philosophizes

[@NakiKyoku]

um I know this video is old but what is the song at 2:56? I really like it

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

+AceTheFrost015 It's from Sonic After The Sequel. Stage 1, act 3.

[@NakiKyoku]

NickonAquaMagna Thank you

[@MountainWo1f]

Vehicles are still my favorite part about lego. And back when bionical was popular I didn't have enough lego, technic, or brick to build Vehicles for the larger figures so I was drawn to the smaller minifigures that could get away with smaller Vehicles. I was never against bionical they just where not for me, I got my hands on some of the pieces and I use them to build mechs.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Gabe Bond, please enable replies.

[@ashleybrigitte2423]

bruh you can make your own toa with the pieces

[@markperl3869]

Why didn't you mention this video on the Bionicle rewind.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

You say that like I was supposed to...?

[@VezonWireless]

While you're probably right on the money regarding why AFOLs disliked BIONICLE, I found it interesting that you said that BIONICLE fans were content with the theme's cameo in The LEGO Movie while AFOLs were using it as proof that BIONICLE was a black stain on The LEGO Group's history. If AFOLs were the ones talking about the scene, then that argument would have backfired since Fabuland is grouped in with BIONICLE during that scene, and Fabuland is apparently considered a cult classic by AFOLs. From my experience, it's been the other way around: the BIONICLE fans are the ones who are screaming and raging about The LEGO Movie calling their beloved theme "not worth mentioning." Except that wasn't what The LEGO Movie said at all. It said "we don't need to mention." It's a subtle difference, but much less antagonistic in meaning. And, from a storytelling perspective, it's absolutely true: since the BIONICLE theme did not play a role in the film's plot, Wyldstyle did not need to mention it in her exposition dump. Also, given that the theme was canceled in 2010 (when Finn would've only been about 4 years old), it also makes logical sense that he wouldn't have any BIONICLE sets in his household, hence why they wouldn't appear in the movie.

[@charaproductions2308]

But in Legos overall track record fabuland was a modest success compared to classic space and Bionicle

[@zeratul____1228]

Honestly if there were Bionicles in the movie they'd be like heros or something to the rest based off how they were the ones to save the company from dying. Now I do know it was actually Star Wars that saved lego but they wanted their own brand and made Bionicle which took off and they didn't need to lean on movie licensed stuff as much.

[@jakobcrotty8907]

@@zeratul____1228 Hard to say. Bionicle may actually have been the one that saved LEGO, at least in the short term 2001-2004. Sales steadily declined but in 2003 Bionicle was outselling basically every other LEGO line. Now of course Star Wars has proven a more than worthy investment, but in the early days when they were both untested Bionicle was the workhorse. You can find more info in "Brick by Brick: How LEGO Rewrote the Rules of Innovation and Conquered the Global Toy Industry" pages 154-155.

[@ellanimation816]

@@zeratul____1228 no it wasn’t Star Wars Lego started themselves is that George and lucasfilm took half of the money and that the return wasn’t enough. Harry Potter also didn’t gain Lego that much money do to a lack of movies when the deal started. Look at the facts, Lego has said it themselves that Lego wouldn’t be here without Lego, there is a documentary about this.

[@Percival917]

And, also, to be fair about your unleashed review, it was Extremely intelligent and well-written, just like all of your other reviews. And I'm pretty sure you convinced quite a few of us (including me) that what you said was the truth, something trustworthy. While I cannot hate unleashed as much as you did, I do wish people would stop worshipping the ground it walks, as people still do today. Half prototype/tech demo for Colors and Gens, half Diet God of War. That's basically what unleashed boils down to. Colors and Gens might as well treat it like a beta, or some other kind of inferior thing. And after seeing your review, others would likely say the same. Is that really such a bad thing? Maybe, I dunno. I'm pretty sure I'm just rambling at this point anyways.

[@bardhi09]

What does AFOL mean? Anyways...I still have to wait for months till I see this movie...so far estimates for the Blu-ray Release are either June or August...I'm hoping for an April Release(right around my Birthday) so I can pirate the shit out of it :P *crosses fingers*

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Adult Fans of Lego.

[@bardhi09]

Oh...right :P

[@Wil348OnStorm]

There are always flame wars on Eurobricks between DC and Marvel fans over one theme or the other getting more attention at their sets' respective release times. There's nothing wrong with liking both, I just bought a Batman set and a Captain America set together because I like both.

[@ScottaHemi440]

I don't hate it. it just never really interested me. the big ball joints are nice for brick build mechs though!

[@internationalmanofmystery1600]

This related to your recent journal entry?

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Little bit.

[@internationalmanofmystery1600]

NickonAquaMagna Thought so.

[@raptus.]

Lego would bankrupt if Bionicle wasn't created.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Yup.

[@NathanWerewuff]

I like Bionicle, but I kind of got into it a little too late.

[@skeet39]

Your thought process about Unleashed sums up my view and crusade against MLP. Unlike you, it will be quite some time before I can get rid of my opinions.

[@OSSOYT]

2:40 what song is that?

[@qidanny6144]

bionicle is not a toy for physical enjoyment, it is for your spirit, your soul... That why its the only thing i have

[@uzunami810]

To be honest, constraction sets are the ones who age the best

[@frogmouth2]

Maybe it’s cuz I never really mingle in groups of system fans but I’ve really never seen toxic system afols. I’ve seen my fair share of toxic bionicle fans. I mean hell, some of my first internet experiences were seeing people 7-so years older then me complaining about how HF sucks on KZbin. But I’ve never truly seen “toxic system fans” unless it was bionicle fans talking about how they dislike them. If we’re talking about the 90th anniversary vote then I can see that maybe but I never really saw any, just lots and lots of campaigning from bionicle fans. Idk maybe I’m biased because I’ve always seen the toxic sides of the bionicle community and as the phrase goes “the grass is always greener on the other side”. Unfortunately these supposed toxic minority got their way because after numerous poor decisions on Lego’s part ccbs and with it constraction as a whole ended several years back. They even made new molds for the classic slizer hands without any new constraction sets. I think if they just didn’t mess with HF and let it flourish without turning its last couple years into pre-G2 experiments, while giving G2 more time to be planned out while building up nostalgia, we could still have G2 today.

[@nathaniel_jpg]

My mom didn’t hate it, she would get me hero factory and or bionicle for Christmas or my birthday

[@marco117sw]

I was always a fan of Lego Bricks and Technic sets. Just saying they can all exist on the same median as they do nowadays. And the same plane of existence as some hybrid sets came out to be.

[@Kiteman78]

I build a GUANTLET with bionicle people

[@truthofdsp]

You can build a lot with technic if you use your imagination...

[@hito21-87]

Those AFOLs just don't understand.

[@soundwave9414]

I have the same issue with people needlessly hating the star wars prequels

[@deadlykillershitgalaxyhusk854]

I love Bionicle

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

Same.

[@illerhumpy3867]

I gotta say I don't feel this video has aged well or will age any better the longer it goes on without being addressed.

[@NickonPlanetRipple]

What do you mean? There are still a lot of people who hate Bionicle.