Why Some Tractor Tires is Filled With Water?

Why Some Tractor Tires is Filled With Water?
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Did you know that some tractor owners fill their tires with water or other fluids?
Filling tractor tires with water is a common practice in agriculture and certain industrial applications, serving various purposes.
This practice is prevalent in agricultural tractors used for tasks like plowing, planting, and harvesting, as well as in industrial tractors involved in material handling, construction, and other heavy-duty operations.
But why would you fill water inside your tire?
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[@nevinbontrager8828]

I did tractor tires for over a decade, and I definitely did my share of tires with fluid. It was always the worst thing, that took 4 times as long and always made a mess, not to mention having to grind down the wheel to get rid of rust plus primering the wheel to protect it again. Wheel weights are a FAR better option, not to mention you can add or subtract them as you please. The ONLY way it made possible sense to me was with a 2wd loader tractor. And as far as using it for traction, its not as advantageous as weights anyways. The fluid adds tractive force but also adds to the weight that is required to spin the actual tire since it is further out than weights would be. This takes more power to drive and gives the illusion that the heavy tire is "biting" more. Wheel weights will add to your draft pressure but fluid will not. After doing some figuring and observing with customers it seemed to be about a 5/8 ratio, as in; 600 lb of weight would add as much pulling power as 1000 lb of fluid. Are weights more expensive? Yes. But they are only more expensive once. If a tire has a puncture one time, the wheel weights paid for themselves in the cost difference between fixing a tire with fluid and fixing a tire without fluid. We had more than a few customers that i convinced to switch away from the fluid when putton on new tires, going with a good radial tire and was ballasted and aired cirrectly, and they all noticed an immediate improvement in pulling power. And no, you would not want water in a semi tire...lol All this to say that weights are expensive! More than ever. I understand 100% that fluid is way cheaper, and does essentially the same thing. It is 100% the farmers call on how they want to ballast their own piece of equipment. This is just my observations on fixing or replacing over 10,000 ag tires while I was there.

[@RJ-lj3zt]

I see you bought dears BS

[@nevinbontrager8828]

@@RJ-lj3zt lol oh wow. Sure If thats what you think, friend. If you know me, you know that 4440 is a four letter word. Think whatever you like. Ive changed or fixed over 10 thousand farm tires. How many have you done?

[@RJ-lj3zt]

@@nevinbontrager8828 seeing I've been farming since 1984 and own 23 tractors most loaded down, I can tell you that your opinion on fluid is because you had to deal with unmaintained tires, and yes it is a pain to handle, but it's far cheaper than iron weight, and the difference between a light tractor and one weighted properly is night and day

[@nevinbontrager8828]

@@RJ-lj3zt yep, and I have utter and total respect for you, make no mistake. My argument is that you only have to pay for weights once, whereas the total cost of having fluid over the life of a tire tends to be greater. You obviously don't need me to tell you how to farm, it's just my observations on fluid in tires based on my experience. Cost is 100% the reason that fluid exists in the first place.

[@RJ-lj3zt]

@@nevinbontrager8828 Fluid was actually invented by Allis Chalmers, they did it because instead of selling the farmer a big heavy tractor, they could sell a smaller lighter tractor , load it with fluid, and the farmer got a better deal. Up until the 90's fluid was widely used, but then manufacturers started the campaign that fluid was bad, and high prices pig iron (cheaply made) was very profitable for them. Now because farmers don't own the tractor it's leased, the companies cash in again by leasing bigger and bigger tractors to do the same job a smaller properly weighted tractor could do. I feel your pain with fluid, we actually have our own equipment for putting it in and taking it out. The real issue is farmers don't maintain the tractors with fluid, if we see a little moisture around the stem, we change the core, if you let it leak, yes it rots the rim. We have tractors with calcium, some with beet juice and 1 with vegetable oil, the beet juice and vegetable oil are non corrosive

[@johnhiggs325]

We use a noncorrosive glycol/water/sealant mixture in our rears as counter balance. The front loader can easily lift enough weight to cause forward tipping, but due to width restrictions, side weights aren’t an option.

[@ringerson4x4]

Calcium chloride isn’t just for anti freeze. Water weighs 8.34 pounds per gallon, you add roughly 100 lbs of calcium chloride to 50 gallons of water. That adds 2 lbs per gallon and increases the amount of ballast in each tire. It is hell on steel rims though.

[@Humbulla93]

you could first coat the inside of the rims with liquid rubber like HBS-200 or other bitumen/polymer like material, then the inside cant corrode. latex wouldn´t be an alternative as it would deteriorate

[@georgeisaak5321]

Most of the farmers I saw doing that believe that this adds more weight to the tractor and therefore better grip . The designers however made the tires in such a way that you get the grip you need when the tires are normally inflated and almost new without adding more stress to the tire or differentials . First of all the fuel economy is ruined , the tractor is always "loaded" therefore the tires wear out sooner .

[@RJ-lj3zt]

Not true at all

[@C0lon0]

I never saw difference in worked hours of duration between tires with 20% water, 90% water or no water with ballast or no ballast.

[@suburbansolarhomeandpreppi9936]

Designers have to make generic assumptions about the tractor which has nothing to do with actual use.

[@robertfranki5477]

How does this affect truck tires?

[@wihannieuwoudt8972]

Not recommended for on road use at all due to safety concerns. Furthermore Truck operators typically try to get the mass of the empty truck as low as possible as this means they can haul more freight i.e. if you add 900kg(1985lb) of water to the tires of an 18 wheeler you can haul 900kg(1985lb) less freight, as trucks are limited on their total mass and not the mass of the freight.

[@JacobGardener]

It would probably reduce your gas mileage and wear out your breaks faster. Also, increase your stopping distance. In tractors, they primarily drive at slow speeds, so the water stays at the bottom of the tire. At high speeds, the water will start to distribute evenly making the tire act like a fly wheel. Sudden stops would cause the water to start sloshing around, which would likely cause a truck to jerk around.

[@kirara4953]

Trucks AND Tractors!? I gotta subscribe!

[@TruckTropia]

Do that 👍

[@xlerb2286]

Our field tractors had a water / calcium chloride mix in the tires. That was some miserable stuff. You always had to make sure the valve stems were at the top of the tire if you were going to check tire pressure or add air. We had a separate pressure gauge and air chuck for the tires. The valve stems also had troubles with leakage and no matter how careful you were you always got that miserable stuff on you when working with the tires.

[@martinogila2983]

very interesting. Great channel

[@Poppin-Seeds]

We actually fill them with calcium or beat juice or glycol not water it’s freezes was a tire guy in Kelowna bc for 20 years cheers they claimed it was so the tractor wouldn’t bounce and bruise the fruit.

[@antor.j.medrano]

Wow, amazing. NEVER knew that about 🚜.

[@fjb4932]

Why some tractor tires IS filled with water. Shakespeare must be confused about now, should he laugh, or cry. I know i IS confused... ☆

[@fard_slayer2122]

thanks for using mtz or other soviet tractors in this video

[@mosesmanaka8109]

Do you mean are filled with water?

[@Platypus_Warrior]

For weight distribution I would rather have an arm sticking out with a pivot point but maybe it's too far fetched. The thing about not damaging the soil I don't get, you could deflate some air out to spread the load, it goes against adding load with the water. English wise, the title is interesting. I would have said "are filled" instead of "is filled". I'm sure I'm wrong, the grammar is just strange to me as a french-portuguese.

[@kirara4953]

"Why are some tractor tires filled with water?' would be proper.

[@wihannieuwoudt8972]

English is not my native tongue. As a farmer also differ on the point of "adding waster reduces soil compaction". Soil compaction is a great concern for farmers, but I do not see how adding water can reduce it, it would rather increase it as you say; fitting larger tires would reduce compaction and also increase traction.

[@DamianCzech-tp1jz]

Easy weight 💪🏻

[@piotrzareba7876]

1:50 - 1:53 blue tractror its looks like MTZ 82 or T25 vladimiriec and trick with water in tires is as old as world

[@consisepepper73]

Though wheel weights are most expensive, couldn’t it do the exact same thing?

[@nevinbontrager8828]

Yes, and better. Lol read my earlier comment above.

[@RJ-lj3zt]

​@@nevinbontrager8828not better, that's the spin the companies put on it, because they can sell you very expensive pig iron

[@C0lon0]

​@@nevinbontrager8828iron weights could be better, but water is cheaper and cheaper is better.

[@nevinbontrager8828]

@@C0lon0 lol I hear that. The price of weights has gone crazy, like everything. But like I said, weights are only expensive once. But you know how to farm, do what works for you!

[@mykelbaurle5758]

Why ballast?

[@RJ-lj3zt]

To make use of the horse power

[@ezrapster]

It adds weight directly on the ground, reducing weight attached to the drivetrain. Thus reducing wear.

[@warmicecubes2161]

Is?🤣

[@GRamerDim]

Brain rot

[@user-poopee]

Womp abt it Just joking :)

[@mopar3502001]

Is or are?